1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Hi from the Salvation Army. You're listening to Words of 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Life Words. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: The Words. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Of the Life. 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Words of Life. Today, Bernie is 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 3: continuing his conversation with Major Sandra Powar about how we 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: as followers of Christ should be the best neighbors after 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: we hear from them. Will be joined by Julayne Rolderder. 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 3: She is the Bible Correspondence Program Assistant, which means she 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: receives prayer requests from individuals currently incarcerated. 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 4: In a few weeks, we'll. 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: Hear more about the ministry the Salvation Army is a 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: part of when it comes to correctional ministries. But we 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: are so excited to announce that through a new initiative 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: in certain correctional facilities in the Southeast, Words of Life 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: can now be heard on secure tablets made available to 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 3: those in prison. To learn more about this initiative, check 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: out the show notes for this episode. 20 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to Words of Life. I'm Bernie Dake 21 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: and I'm joined in the studio again today by Major 22 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: Sandra Poar. Welcome back, Thank you, Thank you for having me. 23 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: I am sad that this will be our last time 24 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: together for this series, But I'm glad that we've really 25 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: been given the opportunity to hear your thoughts on what 26 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: it means to be neighborly and be a good neighbor 27 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: and why it's important for us as Christians to be 28 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: intensional about building relationships within our community. So here's a statement. 29 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: We don't love our neighbors to convert them. We love 30 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: our neighbors because we are converted. What does that mean 31 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: to you? 32 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a pretty heavy statement, one of beauty and hope, 33 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: I think, and that really speaks to the relationship that 34 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: we have with Jesus right that Jesus changes us, Jesus 35 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: loves us, Jesus has incredible grace and forgiveness for us, 36 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: And I think that is the way that we should 37 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: approach the people that into our spaces and into our lives, 38 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: and really speaks to not having an agenda when we step 39 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: into relationship with people, that we want to step into 40 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: relationship with people with genuine motives just to get to 41 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: know them, to hear their stories, to know who they are, 42 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: where they come from, what they believe, and that it's 43 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: not just about us trying to put our beliefs onto them. 44 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: I say that in quotion in the way that Yes, 45 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: as a Christian, I would love for everybody to know 46 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Jesus because he's amazing and I love him and I've 47 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: seen what He's done in my life and in the 48 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: life of people that I love. But I don't presume 49 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: to think that everybody is in that same space. And 50 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: I think that it makes people projects rather than people 51 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: that we can be in relationship and friendship with. And 52 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: I'd rather see them as someone that I can be 53 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: friends with than as a project to work on. I 54 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: would just encourage people to be themselves, to bring themselves 55 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: to the table. We all have different gifts, we all 56 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: have different ways that we relate to people. Don't try 57 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: to be somebody that you're not. You know, there is 58 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: a place for kind of what we call traditional evangelism 59 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: methods of going out and maybe do I don't know, 60 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: open air or being on a street corner if that's 61 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: what the Lord has led you to do. But relationships 62 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: really where it's at. Like when you build momentum with 63 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: people and you just share each other's stories and you 64 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: share life with them. 65 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: Hey, you're listening to the Salvation Armies words of life. 66 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: We're going to take a quick ad break and we'll 67 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: be right back here. 68 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: A lot of the work that I get to do 69 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: with our own churches with young adults or teenagers, and 70 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: I always want to remind them and our listeners that 71 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: we are uniquely made, fearfully and wonderfully in Christ's image, 72 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: and you are good enough just as you are, and 73 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: that uniqueness is probably attractive to other people in a 74 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: way that God designed on purpose, and I think it's 75 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: okay to embrace that. Amen. Amen. 76 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: I think of my two daughters. They're very different personalities, 77 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: like completely different. So my oldest is probably not going 78 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: to really talk about Jesus a lot to her friends, 79 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: but she will invite them to church programs and to 80 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: hang out with her there, and they get to know 81 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: who she is and how much she loves God. But 82 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: being in those spaces with her, whereas my youngest is 83 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: very open and vocal and with all her friends. You know, 84 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: she's even just recently, she has a Bible and she's 85 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: been highlighting it and taking it to school, and then 86 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: she asked her friend if she wanted to do a 87 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Bible study with her. Like that doesn't flow from a 88 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: place of like I need to convert all my friends. 89 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: She doesn't think like that. She literally is just like 90 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: I love Jesus, I love reading his word. Maybe you 91 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: want to read it with me, you know. And it 92 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: just flows from who she is. So I think, no 93 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: matter what age you are, no matter what stage you on, 94 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: no matter what kind of person you are, like, God 95 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: will use who you are. 96 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, with the time that we have left, I 97 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: want to make sure that we touch on this phrase 98 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: that I've heard you say, A thousand cups of tea. 99 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: I love a good cup of black tea in the morning, 100 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: but a thousand. 101 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: Cups of tea, yeah, funny enough. I don't drink tea 102 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: at all, which is weird for an Australian and someone 103 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: who's lived in the UK. But my husband does drink tea. 104 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: But I am excited about a thousand cups of tea 105 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: because we're going to have a whole day where the 106 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: territory is going to drink a thousand cups of tea hopefully. 107 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: But where that comes from is a book that I 108 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: started reading when I was pastor and officer at Atlanta 109 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: International Corps, where the majority of my church members did 110 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: not speak English, and I was trying to figure out 111 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: how I could come communicate with them or how I 112 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: could disciple them when they didn't understand what I was saying. 113 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: And so I came across this book, A Thousand Cups 114 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: of Tea by Preston Fidler, and I just loved it. 115 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: One. 116 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: I loved that kind of he's very much a missionary 117 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: and that that's my heart and the heart of my husband. 118 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: But one of the things that I really just wanted 119 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: to learn was how does the Gospel be shared to 120 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: people and then cultures where you do not speak the 121 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: same language. And this book just really helped me to 122 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: see that. One, I just need to know the Gospel 123 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: for myself. I need to be fluent in what Scriptures 124 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: is saying, and then I need to again trust the 125 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: Lord to be able to use different ways to get 126 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: that word across to people by connecting to things that 127 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: are similar for both of us and by telling stories also. 128 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: But he also does talk about, you know, like taking lessons, 129 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: language lessons and just learning some of the basics so 130 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: that you can share scripture with people so that you 131 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: don't use it as excuse to not share. And this 132 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: author is very very inspiring and he doesn't give up. 133 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't let anything become a barriers to him. He 134 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: just is like, Okay, God, like, I'm just going to 135 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: give this to you. Help me to be able to 136 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: share the Word of God with the people that I'm with. 137 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: And how he does that is by sharing tea with people. 138 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: Tea cups of tea is pretty universal. And again it 139 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: comes back to the fact that you're building relationship with 140 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: people that you're sharing cups of tea, cups of coffee, 141 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: maybe in my case is a can of diet coke, 142 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, but you're using organic things that you would 143 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: do in your everyday life to build relationship with people 144 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: and to find commonality and to allow the Holy Spirit 145 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: to direct conversations and speak through those conversations. Yeah, that's 146 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: kind of the gist of it. 147 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's great, Sandra. I'm so grateful 148 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: that you would share your heart with us and encourage 149 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: us to be even better neighbors. And if that means 150 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: that someone comes into a right relationship with Jesus Christ, 151 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: then to him alone be the glory. Be sure to 152 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: come back next week where we actually get to interview 153 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: the author of this book that has inspired major Sandra, 154 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: and we pray that as you consider what it means 155 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: to be more neighborly or have a cup of tea 156 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: with someone, that you would do it with that very 157 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: thought that God can use us just as we are. 158 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: We pray that you're enjoying and being blessed by this conversation. 159 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 3: We're going to take one more ad break and we'll 160 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: be right back. 161 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: Well. 162 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: I am now joined by Juline Rowlerter. She's an employee 163 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: with the Salvation Army. Juline, welcome, Thank you. Introduce yourself 164 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: to our listeners. What is your current role with the 165 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 3: Salvation Army? What do you do here? 166 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: I'm the Bibble Correspondence Program Assistant and I've been here 167 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: for sixteen years. I basically managed the programed sending out 168 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: Bibles and Bible courses to inmates across the Southern Territory. 169 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: We send about five hundred thousand pocket calendars out to 170 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: the chaplains and I get a lot of letters and 171 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 4: responses from the Chaplains and from the inmates who are 172 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: requesting services and resources from. 173 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: Us, and then we're able to help just connect them 174 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: too locally. 175 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: Actually, absolutely, it's amazing. 176 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 3: So we've been in a series focused on community engagement, 177 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: and we're talking about how we as Christ followers should 178 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: be the best neighbors, but even just beyond our literal neighbors. 179 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: You know, as we think about this, what is a 180 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: community of people that we think are often overlooked. 181 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 4: I really believe the inmates are. There's a lot of judgment. 182 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: There's such a stigma with people who are incarcerated after 183 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 4: they released. The sentence may be completed, but not all 184 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: society wants to forgive them. 185 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: Through your work, we get to receive actual prayer requests 186 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: from people that are currently incarcerated. Could you just share 187 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: like a couple of these prayer requests so we can 188 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: just kind of get an idea of how we should 189 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 3: be praying for them. 190 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: Sure, I'd be glad to. One of the lines from 191 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: our Bible courses is what are your thoughts about God? 192 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: When I was reading through that, there was a lot 193 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: of prayer and praise together Nicole who wrote God is 194 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 4: the center of my life. I still struggle sometimes and fall, 195 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 4: but I look to God to lift me up. Abigail, 196 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 4: I love him, Honestly. I didn't find him until getting 197 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: locked up, But even behind bars, I've never been so 198 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: happy and so at peace with in my life and 199 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: the man that gave his son up to save my soul. 200 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: Amber God is the only one who has never left me, 201 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 4: even in my sin. No one has loved me like 202 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: he does. He has saved me time and time again, 203 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: even when I didn't deserve it. Lord, you saved me. 204 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 4: You forgive me for killing someone. You're too good, Lord, 205 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: and I don't deserve you or the blood of your son. 206 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: There's Tamika. I love him so much. This year is 207 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: my new me tell the good news because he has 208 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: been so good to me. One last one for a crystal. 209 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: He is my father and my friend. If he can 210 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: forgive me of my past, then I should be able 211 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: to do the same thing. It's just hard to forgive myself. 212 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: Thank you for sharing this. It's something that we're in 213 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: the process of working on within Words of Life specifically, 214 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 3: is now being able to offer this podcast through the 215 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: Dovo app, and so not every prison night, I imagine, 216 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: but many prisons, especially throughout the Southeast, now have access 217 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: to these secured tablets, and through that tablet that can 218 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: actually hear this show. It would be an incredible God 219 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 3: miracle if one of these people that we just read 220 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: their prayer request is actually listening to this right now, 221 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: which blows my mind. And I just want all of 222 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: you to know that we are lifting you up in prayer. 223 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: I can't imagine what you've been through. God knows, and 224 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: he has never left you. Julaine, thank you so much 225 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: for joining us. Thank you for what you do for 226 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: the Kingdom, and it's been a pleasure. 227 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: Thank you. 228 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: The Salvation Army's mission doing the most good means helping 229 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: people with material and spiritual needs. 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