1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to this week on Capitol Hill, your insider's guide 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: to the story is shaping Washington and the world. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Perkins. Thanks for joining us. Well, here is 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: what's a hit on this weekend's edition. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: We have to make a deal otherwise it's going to 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 3: be very traumatic, very traumatic. I don't want that to happen, 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: but we have to make a deal. They should have 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: made a deal the first time, and they got midnight 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: hammer in stead, and this will be very traumatic for 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: Iran if they don't make a deal. 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: I was President Donald Trump on Thursday, responding to a 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: reporter about whether it's view of the talks with Iran 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: had changed after his meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netnell, 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: who Middle East expert doctor Michael Rubin, former Pentagon official 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: and now senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, will 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: join us. Well, another week and another government shutdown. 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 4: Republicans chose chaos, and the Democrats we refused. Republicans chose 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 4: to put a bill on the floor that ignored what 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 4: the abuses, ignore the outrage, ignored what the American people 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 4: want overwhelmingly, and they failed to get the votes to 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 4: avoid a shutdown at DHS. 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: That was Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer driving the government 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: into a partial government shutdown. House Speaker Mike Johnson will 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: join us later. Also a bipartisan showdown in the House 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: this week, lawmakers voting to block tariffs on Canada imposed 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: under emergency powers. Is this about trade, constitutional authority or 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: rising costs? 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: At home? Will unpack what happened and what comes next? 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: And Sharia law in the United States well, the House 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: held a hearing this week on the spread of Islamic 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: sharia law. Texas Congressman Keith self will join us. All 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: of that and a bit more coming up on this 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: week on Capitol Hill. On Thursday, Border Czar Tom Homer 34 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: announced that Operation Metro Surge, the large scale ice operation 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, is winding down. The surge deployed thousands of 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: federal agents to the Twin Cities area, resulting in more 37 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: than four thousand arrests, but also two tragic deaths amid 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: widespread protest home incided improved coordination with state and local 39 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: leaders as a key factor in the drawdown. Joining me 40 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: now to discuss this is Washington Stand Reporter Sarah Holiday. Sarah, 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: Welcome to this week on Capitol Hill. 42 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me, Tony. 43 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: So as borders are, Tom Holman announced the end of 44 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: Operation Metro Surge in Minnesota after more than two months. 45 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: What brought about the decision? Now? Why? 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: Now that's a great question. 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 6: And as you mentioned, Homan reported over four thousand arrests 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 6: that were part of this operation, so surely that plays 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 6: a role. He also stated that when he proposed removing 50 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 6: the agents from the city that President Trump approved, they 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 6: both agreed. 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 5: That it was a great success as. 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 6: They greatly reduced a number of enforcement targets in Minnesota, 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 6: and as you also mentioned, there was improved cooperation with 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 6: state and local officials, which would all help in keeping 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 6: the city and the state safe. At the end of 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 6: the day, there were also a lot of protests that 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 6: were happening in the city from people who wanted, actually 59 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 6: demanded that ICE leave. I'm not entirely sure if that 60 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 6: would be why they decided to remove them. I think 61 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 6: it's more tied to the success of their mission, But 62 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 6: I know a lot of people are watching to see 63 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 6: if their withdrawal will help cool some of the tensions 64 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 6: that have really been boiling over the last several weeks. 65 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: It appeared that Tom Holman kind of brought the temperature 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: down significantly when he went into Minnesota. He seems like 67 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: a no nonsense guy that just kind of brought the 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: parties together, didn't fudge on the mission, but seemed to 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: bring about a resolution. 70 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 6: Yes, this announcement of the full with drawl did come 71 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 6: after successful talks with low goal leaders, and at the 72 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 6: end of the day, it's so true. Tom Holman is 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 6: a very no nonsense kind of guy. He had a mission. 74 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 6: He wants to help secure the country and in many 75 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 6: ways that's happening city by city. 76 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 5: State by state. 77 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 6: And so if it's true that they hit their targets, 78 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 6: that they did increase the safety and remove many of 79 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 6: the illegal immigrants who are residing there, then the conclusion 80 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 6: is simple. It's just that now it's time to move 81 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 6: on to another city that needs the same kind of protection. 82 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Any indication Sarah where they may be going next, that's a. 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 6: Great question as far as we're concerned. He didn't specifically 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 6: announce where exactly, but he did state that there are 85 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 6: other places in the US that are going to need 86 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 6: this sort of immigration enforcement as well. 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 5: So I'm sure we'll find that detail out quite quickly. 88 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to switch topics. 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Another story you were covering this week, just north of 90 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: there in Canada, one of the deadliest school shootings in 91 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: the nation's history occurred this week. Now, the information about 92 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: the shooter to be slow to emerge because it was 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: another transgender shooting, this one an eighteen year old man 94 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: who began the so called gender transitioning process to a 95 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: female at twelve years old. All what do we know 96 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: thus far about this. 97 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 5: This case is very disturbing, very sad. 98 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 6: We know that a mass shooting occurred in the remote 99 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 6: British Columbia community of tumblr Ridge, and it marked one 100 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 6: of Canada's deadliest school shootings since the nineteen eighty nine 101 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 6: and it also marked the country's worst mass killing since 102 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 6: twenty twenty. The suspect was Jesse Vaughan Rutzilar, an eighteen 103 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 6: year old biological male who did identify as a transgender woman. 104 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 6: He also had a history of very poor mental health. 105 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 6: The disturbing facts of this case that we know so 106 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 6: far are that Rutslar, before the school shooting, had killed 107 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 6: his mother and his stepbrother at home. 108 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 5: Then he went on and opened. 109 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 6: Fire at tumbler Ridge Secondary School before he ended up 110 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 6: turning the gun on himself and pulling the trigger. 111 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 5: In total, he. 112 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 6: Killed at least eight to nine people, with five or 113 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 6: six of those being children, and he injured. 114 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 5: Up to twenty five others. 115 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 6: Rutzila also attended the school at one point that he 116 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 6: inflicted the mass murder upon, but reports say that he 117 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 6: dropped out about four years ago. Authorities did not share 118 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 6: a motive behind the attacks, so as far as those details, 119 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 6: the investigation is still ongoing. 120 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: The Canadian authorities and law enforcement to refer to the 121 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: shooter as a woman. It seems like once again we 122 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: see authorities the media struggling to identify the shooter their 123 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: biological reality, which is consistent with other shootings that we've 124 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: had recently. I mean, there's been a surge of these 125 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: transgender related shootings. In fact, in Minnesota six months ago 126 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: we had the attack on a Catholic school, had the 127 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: one in Nashville. There appears to be concern that there's 128 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: a connection between this toxic cocktail of experimental drugs that 129 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: these transgenders are giving and violence. 130 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: That's exactly right. 131 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 6: And look, no one in their right mind is going 132 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 6: to claim that every single person who identifies as transgender 133 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 6: is going to end up becoming a mass murderer or 134 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 6: go on to do school shootings. 135 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 5: However, there is a very troubling trend. 136 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, if you read 137 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 6: only these legacy media, these outlets that are reporting that 138 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 6: this is a woman using she her pronouns throughout the reporting, 139 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 6: you may never know that some of these people have 140 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 6: transgender identities or that they are biologically something that these 141 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 6: outlets are not stating that they are, and that's inherently misleading. 142 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 6: So multiple sources have referred to this suspect with the 143 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 6: Canada shooting as a woman, and that's all that they've 144 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 6: referred to this person as. But at the end of day, 145 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 6: if you're going to report, you have to report on 146 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 6: all of the facts. 147 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be politically slanted. 148 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 6: If it's just a fact that this person had gender 149 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 6: dysphoria and is struggling with that has mental health, that's 150 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 6: part of the investigation process. 151 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: That becomes a challenge for the legacy media. Facts just 152 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: don't quite get in their way. Another story you were 153 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: covering this week in New York State became the thirteenth 154 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: state to legalize euthanasia. 155 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 6: That's correct. It's very unfortunate, to say the least. This 156 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 6: is now the thirteenth state to further embrace this culture 157 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 6: of death that we see with pro abortion initiatives. But 158 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 6: it's also very prominent with the pro euthanasia movement. It's 159 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 6: all about, as New York's governor said, she claimed at 160 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 6: least that it was all about freedom and autonomy. 161 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: It's about compassion. 162 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 6: Other supporters of this law framed it as an act 163 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 6: of mercy and love to be able to give people, quote, 164 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 6: the right to end their lives at the end of 165 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 6: the day. You don't hear these same people giving other 166 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 6: kinds of solutions, real solutions that deal with addressing the 167 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 6: root of the problem, giving palliative care to help the 168 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 6: people who are ill and terminally ill to have a 169 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 6: more comfortable rest of their life. 170 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 5: You don't really hear them talking about that. 171 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 6: It's just as fast tracked to death through something that 172 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 6: they label as compassionate, when really it's anything But. 173 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting to note that of the thirteen states that 174 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: have legalized a system suicide youth in Asia, that. 175 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: Twelve of those are blue states. 176 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: The only red states Montana and it was imposed upon 177 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: them by the court. So it really does speak to 178 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: the policies of these blue states that most of the 179 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: embrace abortion, embracing now euthanasia. 180 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: It's a logical path. 181 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: If you do not care for the most vulnerable in 182 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: their mother's womb, you know those that but you might 183 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: view have no value or utility. They can be done 184 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,359 Speaker 1: away with as well. I'll give you the final thirty seconds. 185 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 6: Well, it is very sad, and unfortunately with this legislation, 186 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 6: they're trying to pretend that it has safeguards that are 187 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 6: better than other pieces of. 188 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 5: Legislation on this topic. 189 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 6: But really, if the end goal is to allow someone 190 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 6: to end their life, then there aren't really any safeguards, 191 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 6: and there are a lot of loopholes, which means if 192 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 6: one person is eligible for this subjective reason, then almost 193 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 6: anybody could be eligible for their subjective reasons, even if 194 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 6: they are genuinely depressed or anxious or sad about their lives. 195 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 6: This is not the solution, and New York and other 196 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 6: states are framing it as a solution. 197 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 5: But it's just not. 198 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: Sarah Holiday, thanks so much for joining us. 199 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 5: Thank you. 200 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: You can find out more at the Washington Stand dot Com. 201 00:10:53,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: All right, stick with us, We're back after this. This 202 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: is this Week on Capitol Hill, and I'm Tony Perkins. Well, 203 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, President Donald Trump, welcome to Israeli Prime Minister 204 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: Benjamin net Yahoo for a discussion about the ongoing US 205 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program. Now, it's believed 206 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: that the Prime Minister shared new intelligence on Iran's capabilities 207 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: with President Trump. 208 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: Well, at the same. 209 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: Time, the Pentagon has ordered the redeployment of the aircraft 210 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: carrier of the US S. Gerald Ford from the Caribbean 211 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: to the Middle East, where it will join the USS 212 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln and its strike group. 213 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: It looks like this could be carrot and stick. 214 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: Joining me now to discuss this, Doctor Michael Rubin, Senior 215 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. Doctor Rubin, welcome back 216 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: to this Week on Capitol Hill. 217 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 7: Hey, thanks for having you, Tony. 218 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: So this was Prime Minister Benjamin NYA, who's seventh visit 219 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: to the White House since Donald Trump's return into office. 220 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: Was it that compelled him to make a basically a 221 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: one day trip to Washington to visit with President Trump. 222 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 8: Well, you're absolutely right. This is clearly a working trip, 223 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 8: and so there's been a lot of discussion about giving 224 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 8: Trump the most recent intelligence with regard to Iran. Israel 225 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 8: has better resources inside Iran than the United States does. 226 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 8: At the same time, I'm sure there was a bit 227 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 8: of a pep talk saying, hey, look, if you're going 228 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 8: to do this, you got to finish the job. You 229 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 8: can't simply walk away at the last minute, because the 230 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 8: ramifications of that would be would be strategically disastrous. 231 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: So the President made very clear he wants to continue 232 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: this conversation with Iran, even though they've been active in 233 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: a very aggressive manner. But of course the President upping 234 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: the stakes with moving yet another aircraft carrier into the region. 235 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 7: Well, you're absolutely right. 236 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 8: Look, whatever one thinks about Donald Trump, he is sincere 237 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 8: about wanting to make a deal. We can have a 238 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 8: debate about whether that deal would be a good deal 239 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 8: or not. But Donald Trump distinguishes himself from his predecessors 240 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 8: by being more willing to talk to adversaries, and we 241 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 8: saw this in his first term with regard to North Korea. 242 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 8: But at the same time, he's much more willing to 243 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 8: walk away, and that's something that Iranians may not fully 244 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 8: understand because their tactic has always been to run down 245 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 8: the clock. Now with regards to the deployment of the 246 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 8: USS gerald Ford, of course, this brings significant assets to 247 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 8: the region, but this could also be a reflection of 248 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 8: many of our Gulf Arab allies refusing to allow us 249 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 8: to use their own air bases. 250 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 7: This could be a plan. 251 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: B Iran has been a problem for decades, I mean 252 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: about forty years or more, and they've not been an 253 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: honest broker when it comes to any type of deal 254 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: or agreement. What would be required for both America and 255 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: Israel to be satisfied that Iran is no longer a threat? 256 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 7: You know, Tony. 257 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 8: A lot of people, especially Donald Trump's critics, criticize him 258 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 8: for walking away from the twenty fifteen Joint Conference A 259 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 8: Plan of Action nuclear deal, but they missed the point here. 260 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 8: First of all, the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty still applies 261 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 8: to Iran. 262 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 7: Iran is still in violation. 263 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 8: Second of all, the terms of the Joint Conference A 264 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 8: Plan of Action were. 265 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 7: Embedded in United Nations Security. 266 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 8: Council Resolution two two three one, which means Iran doesn't 267 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 8: have the ability to walk away and therefore at the 268 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 8: very least, you're going to have an end to Iran's 269 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 8: nuclear enrichment program. But Donald Trump had said he had 270 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 8: destroyed that back in the Twelve Day War. 271 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 7: In June pointy twenty five, now about ten. 272 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 8: Years ago, when negotiating the Joint Conference a Plan of Action, 273 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 8: we changed our posture towards Iran's missile program. It used 274 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 8: to be that Iran's missile program was illegal if it 275 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 8: was capable of carrying nuclear warheads. John Curry, then Secretary 276 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 8: of State, changed it to design to and that was 277 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 8: a loophole which the Iranians drove a tank through because 278 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 8: they kept saying these are designed to carry satellites, not 279 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 8: nuclear warheads, and if they can carry nuclear warheads, they're 280 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 8: not illegal. 281 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 7: And so what Donald Trump is going to want to 282 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 7: do is reverse that. 283 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 8: And at the same time we have these issues of 284 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 8: the proxies the Huthies has beloved reconstituting itself Hamas refusing 285 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 8: to disarm. What we're talking about is Graham bargain, in 286 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 8: which Iran basically unconditionally surrenders. 287 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: The ideology that drives Iran. This is not a normal negotiation. 288 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: I think that the you know, generally speaking, our State 289 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: Department and our Pentagon. 290 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: Believes that it is engaging. 291 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: With rational people when it's trying to game out what decisions. 292 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: They might make. 293 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: Aran driven by this radical Islamist ideology is really in 294 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: a different category, is it not. 295 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 7: You're absolutely right what a lot of people I mean. 296 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 8: First of all, what American policy across administration constantly fumbles 297 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 8: over is number one religion, Because if we have a 298 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 8: separation of church and state in the United States, that 299 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 8: doesn't mean we can project that onto others. 300 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 7: We have to. 301 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 8: Address the issue of religion and religious motivations, especially if 302 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 8: our adversaries are Iatolas. At the same time, we're traditionally 303 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 8: bad at understanding ideology. 304 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 7: You add into the psychology as well. 305 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 8: Ayatola Ali Kameeni, the supreme leader of Iran, has deddicated 306 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 8: his life to the eradication of Israel. The man has 307 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 8: had cancer twice, He's partially paralyzed from a nineteen eighty 308 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 8: one assassination attempt. All of his peers have passed away, 309 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 8: most of natural causes, some from Israeli drones. And the 310 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 8: fact of the matter is he realizes his time is limited, 311 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 8: and so we need to understand what's going on in 312 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 8: the Iatola's mind. You can enter the Islamic Revolutionary Guard 313 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 8: Court bubble in Iran when you're eight years old, because 314 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 8: they have the equivalent of evil Boy Scout programs, and 315 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 8: then you can remain in that bubble. So we have 316 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 8: to understand that our adversaries have been indoctrinated. 317 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: As we look at Iran, we also have to separate 318 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: the Iranian regime from really, i would say, the majority 319 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: of the Iranian people. That's another factor to consider now, 320 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: because there is unrest there. They've been really screaming for 321 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: America's support and help, whether it be moral support or 322 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more kinetic support. What dynamic does that 323 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: play in the equation? 324 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 8: Well, certainly that's also one of the lessons we had 325 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 8: from Iraq, because we had become so accustomed to thinking 326 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 8: of Sodom Hussein's Iraq as an enemy like that they 327 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 8: suddenly became an ally and we had to pick up 328 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 8: the pieces from how we had destroyed the economy through 329 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 8: sanctions and so forth. So policy makers right now in 330 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 8: the United States are much more much more thoughtful about 331 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 8: separating the regime from the people, knowing that the day 332 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 8: after how many hangs from the gallows or flees to 333 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 8: a Moscow apartment building to become Bascher Alssad's next door neighbor. 334 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 7: That the Iranian. 335 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 8: People are going to be our allies, and so there's 336 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 8: been some outreach we've seen in the Trump administration to 337 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 8: Iranian opposition. 338 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 7: There could frankly be a lot more. 339 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 8: Why is it that the afl CIO, the Labor Union 340 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 8: spends all of its rhetoric, all of its money embracing 341 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 8: labor internationally in every country except in the Islamic Republic 342 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 8: of Iran where they actually need it. So we could 343 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 8: really have a left right alliance going back to the 344 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 8: spirit of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neil in order to 345 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 8: set Iran right and return. 346 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 7: It to its rightful place in the Community of Nations. 347 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: About thirty seconds left, doctor rumin a reset of Iran. 348 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: That could be a game changer in the Middle East? 349 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: Could or not? 350 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 8: That absolutely could be a game changer, which is why 351 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 8: everything is at stake. If you take away all the proxies, 352 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 8: then suddenly it's a different Middle East. But there's dark 353 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 8: clouds on the horizon. If Turkey decides to fill the 354 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 8: gap as a chief sponsor of radical. 355 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: Is it is all right, doctor Michael Rubin. Always great 356 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: to see you, my friend. Thanks so much for joining us. 357 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate your insight. 358 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 7: Thank you all. 359 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: Right after the break, Texas Congressman Keith self joined us 360 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: for discussion on the spread of Sharia law. Congress is 361 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: actually looking to ensure that it does not take root 362 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: in the US. 363 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 9: That's next. 364 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: This is this Week on Capitol Hill on the Salem 365 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: Radio Network, and I'm your host Tony Perkins. 366 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 6: Well. 367 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: On Tuesday, the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution and 368 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: Limited Government held a hearing titled Sharia Free America. Why 369 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: political Islam and Sharia law are incompatible with the US Constitution? 370 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: Given the documented effort under way to establish sharia law 371 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: based legal and civic institutions, what legislative reforms must Congress 372 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: take to protect both American principles and the US Constitution. 373 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: Joining me nout to discuss this, Congressman Keith self. He 374 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: serves on three House committees, including the House Foreign Affairs Committee. 375 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: He represents the third Congressional District of Texas and is 376 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: co founder of the Saria Free America Caucus. Congressmanmself, Welcome 377 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: to this week on Capitol Hill, thanks so much for 378 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: joining us. 379 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 10: Great to be here, TONI thank you. 380 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: Now someone asks the question of why is Congress having 381 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: hearings on Saria law? Why is there a caucus to 382 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: keep America Sharia free? Talk about the threat. 383 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 11: Because it's exploding across America. I represent ground zero of 384 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 11: the Sharia movement in America. 385 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 10: We've got three hundred and thirty moths in Texas. 386 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 11: They're trying to build multiple Muslim on the only cities compounds. 387 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 10: So I represent ground zero. 388 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 11: But Senator Tubberville tells us that North Alabama's doing the same, 389 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 11: Florida has the same, Arizona has the same. For some reason, 390 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 11: they believe they have reached the tipping point where they 391 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 11: now will be so accommodated that they can start intimidation. 392 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 11: They've been filtrated, now they're getting accommodated. 393 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 10: That's the threat. So why do we have a caucus, Tony? 394 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 11: We have a caucus because we have to educate our 395 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 11: and make aware our colleagues in Congress. First, then the 396 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 11: American people, and then we need to start getting some 397 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 11: legislation across. But while legislation is good, we need the 398 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 11: people to be aware and to rise up to protect 399 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 11: our civilization. 400 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: Some might say, well, this is just I mean, this 401 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: is this theoretical, is not really a threat. 402 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: All you have to do is look at the United Kingdom. 403 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it is a real issue there, and they 404 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: use religious freedom as really kind of the cloak to 405 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: bring in Shuria law. 406 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 11: And make no mistake about it, Tony, this is an 407 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 11: alternate legal construct that they have. Where our system is 408 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 11: based on individual freedoms, individual rights given to us by 409 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 11: our creator. Sharia is a illegal construct that says you 410 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 11: will submit to this very draconian legal construct. It's an 411 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 11: alternative political system. It is what it is with a 412 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 11: thin veneer of religion. But this is indeed dangerous. We 413 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 11: cannot have separate, different, incompatible legal systems ruling America. The 414 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 11: US Constitution rules every square inch of America. 415 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: Is speaking of the Constitution, congressman self. It also obligates 416 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: the Congress to ensure that those principles incompatible with that 417 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: Constitution and our republic for republican form of government cannot coexist. 418 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 10: That's exactly right. 419 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 11: That's why we have a bill that has been introduced 420 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 11: into Congress. It says American courts can I accept any 421 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 11: decree or judgment bias sharia court. That's the first step, 422 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 11: because if we ever allow that, then we will have 423 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 11: those separate, separate, but incompatible legal systems in America. And 424 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 11: you mentioned the Republican form of government with a small arm. 425 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 10: A small arm. This is self governing. That's what we 426 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 10: are based on. Self governing. They do not do that. 427 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 11: You will submit to whatever the authorities tell you to do. Fact, 428 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 11: that's not incompatible, it's anti constitution. 429 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: So there's a caucus. 430 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: Now you're heading up that caucus along I think believe 431 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: chip Roy has been working on the legislation with you. 432 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 2: What's been the response of your colleagues, Oh my goodness. 433 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 11: And it came out of a conversation with Senator Turberville 434 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 11: at the White House Christmas party. So now we stand 435 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 11: here in mid February. We have thirty nine members. We've 436 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 11: added three members just this week, Tony. So this is 437 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 11: getting great response. I mean, a thirty nine member caucus 438 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 11: is getting to be a significant caucus in the House 439 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 11: of Representatives. We represent eighteen states, and I will tell 440 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 11: you the response has been great. We have ten members 441 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 11: of the Texas delegation already in this caucus and we've 442 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 11: added several recently. So the response, I would say is tremendous, 443 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 11: far more than we expected, faster than we expected. So 444 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 11: people are starting to be aware that they can now 445 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 11: talk about this. 446 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 10: It's not just. 447 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 11: Something that they have to keep silent about. 448 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 10: Step up and tell us your stories. 449 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: A Congressman, we have about forty five seconds left. Not 450 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: directly related, but indirectly. This week, the House passed to 451 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: Save America Act, which provides for common sense direction for 452 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: elections like voter ID. Is this not connected to preserving 453 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: our constitution? 454 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 10: Absolutely? 455 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 11: If anybody disagrees that American citizens with a photo ID, 456 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 11: a government issued photo ID, should be those people determining 457 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 11: our election, who represents you in this self governing system, 458 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 11: You're in the row country because that's how we should 459 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 11: have our elections governed. Citizens who can prove they are 460 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 11: citizens should determine our elections. 461 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: And that now goes to the Senate, where it's questionable 462 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: if it moves forward. It was bipartisan the House congressman self, 463 00:25:51,600 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, folks, stick with us more straight ahead. 464 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill. I have 465 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: Tony Perkins, your host. 466 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: Well on Thursday, Senate Democrats rejected a House pass bill 467 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: to fund the Department of Homeland Security and then left 468 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: town for a scheduled congressional recess. While the TSA, FEMA, 469 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: and Coast Guard will see their funding lapse, both the 470 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: Immigration and Customs Enforcement that's ICE, along with the border 471 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: patrol agencies are expected to continue with business as usual 472 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: because funding was provided last year in the One Big 473 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: Beautiful Bill. So what will this partial shutdown mean for Americans? 474 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: And is this the new normal? 475 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: Join him in now for our weekly conversation to discuss 476 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: this in Mort's House Speaker Mike Johnson, who represents the 477 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: fourth Congressional District of Louisiana. Mister Speaker, welcome back to 478 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: this week on Capitol Hill. 479 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 12: Hey, Tony, good to be with you, even under these circumstances. 480 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: Another roller coaster week. A lot happening on Capitol Hill 481 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: this week. Let's start with the shutdown. 482 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: What's it? What's this mean to the American people? 483 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 12: Well, it means more frustration and pain for no obvious reason. Look, 484 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 12: the new normal is going to be regular order inappropriations 485 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 12: and we prove that this year. 486 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 7: As you know, it took a lot of effort. 487 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 12: You and I have talked about it quite a bit, 488 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 12: but we got eleven of the twelve separate appropriations bills 489 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 12: passed through both chambers of Congress and signed into law. 490 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 12: But the Homeland Security bill was stalled by the Democrats 491 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 12: because they want to try to make a political point. 492 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 12: Here's the irony. They say that they have complained about 493 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 12: some of the operations of Immigration's customs and Enforcement, but 494 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 12: holding up the funding for the Department of Homeland Security 495 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 12: has no impact on that whatsoever, because we pre funded 496 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 12: ICE operations in the Big Beautiful Bill, so it's funded 497 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 12: all the way through the end of the Trump administration. 498 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 12: So they have no power of the purse strings here 499 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 12: the Democrats who want to shut down immigration enforcement and 500 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 12: deportation of dangerous criminal illegal aliens because that's already done. 501 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 12: So what they're doing instead is trying to make a 502 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 12: political point. They're trying to confuse the American people, and 503 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 12: they're going to inflict real pain because the other agencies 504 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 12: that are directly affected by the Shenanigans are the agencies, ironically, Tony, 505 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 12: that are charged with keeping Americans safe. You're talking about 506 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 12: the TSA agents who keep the airport safe and keep 507 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 12: our flights going on time. 508 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 7: You're talking about. 509 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 12: FEMA that is responding to natural disasters in these recent 510 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 12: winter storms and all the rest of the havoc that's 511 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 12: been going on around the country. You're talking about the 512 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 12: secret Service that keeps the president and the administration safe, 513 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 12: and you're talking about the Coastguard. I mean, these are 514 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 12: the people who are directly impacted. They're going to be 515 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 12: required to work without pay again. And as has been 516 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 12: pointed out by many over the last couple of days, 517 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 12: these are the same people who are harmed by the 518 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 12: last shutdown last fall, where the Democrats ushered in the 519 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 12: longest shutdown in US history for forty three days. They 520 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 12: should not have to work under these crazy conditions because 521 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 12: a handful of Democrats in Washington want to make a 522 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 12: political point. And I can't tell you how frustrating it is. 523 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: Well, I would think it's also very frustrating for those employees, 524 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: federal employees that work in those agencies. I just have 525 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: to say, if this is becoming the new normal, and 526 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: it does appear to be happening more often, I think 527 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: some of the more talented people are going to be 528 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: looking for employment elsewhere. 529 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, and think of that what if that is the 530 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 12: eventual result of this, how will that harm the American people? 531 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 12: We rely upon people have long experience in these agencies. 532 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 12: You know, I think of Tom Homan as a recent example. 533 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 12: He's now kind of overseeing the operations of the Immigration's 534 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 12: customs enforcement. He took over in Minneapolis, and you know, 535 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 12: the chaos that was ensuing on the streets because of 536 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 12: all the radical protesters. Tom Holman has done an extraordinary job. 537 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 12: Why because he brought forty years of experience to the task. 538 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 12: He knows what he's doing, and he brought calm and 539 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 12: reason to that immigration enforcement should be balanced and structured, 540 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 12: and he's restored that. And now just you know, a 541 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 12: couple of days ago, he announced that we're now able 542 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 12: to pull the ICE officers in that heavy presence out 543 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 12: of Minneapolis because Tom Holman was in charge. Think of 544 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 12: the Tom Holmans who serve and all these agencies across 545 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 12: the federal government. We don't want them leaving and fting 546 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 12: other employment in the private sector or elsewhere, because we 547 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 12: need that level of expertise. It's what keeps America safe. 548 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 12: And our Democrat colleagues seem not to appreciate that. 549 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: At all good illustration and a little irony there, because 550 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: this is again what the Democrats are targeting. I want 551 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: to move on to another topic, mister Speaker. This week, 552 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: your difficult task of keeping Republicans together with almost zero 553 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: margins was on display again, and this time you actually 554 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: had a number of Republicans joined Democrats. 555 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: A handful of Republicans, I should say, to. 556 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: Terminate the National Emergency declaration of President Trump rolling back 557 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: tariffs on Canada that past the House this week. 558 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 7: What was behind all that, Well, it's very frustrating. 559 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 12: We had three Republicans out of two hundred and eighteen 560 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 12: break ranks and go along with the Democrats to allow 561 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 12: these series of votes to remove the terif authority of 562 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 12: the President. And my argument is very simple. The President 563 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 12: has used his trade authority and tariff's is part of 564 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 12: one of the tools in the toolbox, so to speak, 565 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 12: to get America back on top. In the last ten days, Tony, 566 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 12: we've had a number of brand new trade agreements negotiated 567 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 12: by the administration and brought into effect, from countries as 568 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 12: large as India, which is the largest population of the planet, 569 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 12: to smaller nations in Central America. The trade policy is working. 570 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 12: We have reduced America's trade deficit by seventy eight percent 571 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 12: in the last year because of Trump's strategy and what 572 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 12: he's doing, so America's benefited. 573 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 7: It's put us back on top. 574 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 12: We're exerting peace through strength again, not only with military 575 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 12: presence and strength, but also with the economy. My point 576 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 12: to our colleagues was, don't interrupt that right now. By 577 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 12: the way, the US Supreme Court will issue an opinion 578 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 12: any day now ruling upon the president's tariff authority. I 579 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 12: just didn't think it was appropriate for the House to 580 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 12: get in the middle of that, and I regret that 581 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 12: the vote came down to that. We'll have to handle 582 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 12: it step by step, and at the end of the day, 583 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 12: remember this, the President can veto any of those bills 584 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 12: that come to him and happen to make their way 585 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 12: through the House and Senate. So it's not really going 586 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 12: to change the arror policy anyway. And there's no way 587 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 12: to override it because it takes two thirds of both 588 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 12: chambers and we simply don't have those numbers. 589 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 2: So was it politics driving this? 590 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: Was it the economy? Was it the constituents? What was 591 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: really driving this? When you look at the numbers. You 592 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: made reference to how America is coming back on top economically. 593 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: We've added jobs that the recent job report was very positive. 594 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: Inflation is remaining under control. So what's driving this? I 595 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: wish I could tell you. 596 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 12: The two colleagues who surprised me with their votes to 597 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 12: go along with the Democrats had varying reasons. 598 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 7: You know, one of them is not running for reelection. 599 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 12: He said he's just tired of it, okay, Well, another 600 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 12: said that he wanted to make a point about procedures. 601 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 7: I just quite didn't understand that. 602 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 12: The third vote was the member of our House Republican 603 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 12: Conference votes know every single day, votes of the Democrats 604 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 12: every single day, so I sort of count that vote 605 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 12: to always be on the wrong side. But the other 606 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 12: two did surprise me, and I think they'll regret that 607 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 12: vote in a long term. But as I told the President, 608 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 12: we've got to work with them, bring them right back 609 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 12: into the fold because our margin is so small for 610 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 12: the remainder of the year, Tony, we need unanimity in 611 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 12: the House Republican Conference to continue to move the American 612 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 12: First agenda. 613 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 7: So I got to work with everybody. 614 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: You know, mister Speaker's got like a perpetual church business meeting. 615 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 7: With the highest stakes possible. 616 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: That's right, all right, mister speaker. 617 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: Always great to see you have a I know it's 618 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 1: going to be a busy weekend as you try to 619 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: keep things on track. 620 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: But thanks for joining us. 621 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 12: Always glad to be with you. Thanks Tony. 622 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: All right, folks, stick with us on the other side 623 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: of the break. 624 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to have some final thoughts on this week 625 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: as we look toward the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary 626 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: of America's founding. 627 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 9: So don't go away. 628 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning into this week on Capitol Hill. Exodus, 629 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: chapter nine, verse one records a command that literally shaped 630 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: a nation. Thus says the Lord God of the Hebrews, 631 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: let my people go, that they may serve me. Freedom 632 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: in the Bible is never abstract. It is purposeful. It 633 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: is directional. It is given so that the people might 634 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: serve the God who delivered them. Now, this truth did 635 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: not escape the attention of America's founders. In seventeen seventy six, 636 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: when Congress requested designs for a national seal, Benjamin Franklin 637 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: proposed a striking image Moses standing at the Red Sea, 638 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: Pharaoh and his army overwhelmed and beneath it the motto 639 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: rebellion to tyrants is obedience to. 640 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: God, thought never adopted. 641 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: The proposal reflected how deeply the Exodus narrative shaped the 642 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: American imagination from New England to the Southern colonies. Pastors 643 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: drew explicit parallels between Israel's deliverance from Egypt and the colonies. 644 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: Struggle for independence frequently returned to a familiar refrain, let 645 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: my people go, But they didn't stop there. On December 646 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: twenty third, seventeen seventy six, Sylvania's Coonate preached directly from 647 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: the full text, let my people go, that they may 648 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: serve me. Ministers such as Samuel West and Samuel Langdon 649 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: made the same point. The goal was not autonomy for 650 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: its own sake. 651 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: The goal was. 652 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: Ordered liberty under God. That full phrase, let my people go, 653 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: that they may serve me, appears about seven times in Exodus. 654 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: The repetition is deliberate. God's championing of Israel's freedom was 655 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: not so that they could do what was right in 656 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: their own eyes. It was liberation unto obedience, worship and 657 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: covenant faithfulness. Deliverance was the doorway to devotion. These colonial 658 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: pastors understood that principle. They warned that liberty detached from 659 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: moral restraint would decay into lawlessness and eventually into tyranny. 660 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: Reverend Langdon cautioned the nation that blessed with freedom but 661 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: unwilling to live under God's law would follow the same 662 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: tragic pattern seen in Israel's history. Cone reminded his hearers 663 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: that deliverance creates obligation. People set free must respond with 664 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: gratitude and obedience, or risk forfeiting the blessing they were given. 665 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: Even among the Founders, that sober awareness was present. Thomas 666 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: Jefferson wrote these words, that's still unsettle quote Indeed, I 667 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: tremble for my country when I reflect that God is 668 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: just and that His justice cannot sleep forever end quote. 669 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: Whatever his theological persuasion, Jefferson understood a fundamental truth. Nations 670 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: are morally accountable. The Founders didn't envision freedom as self 671 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: definition without limits. They sought freedom within a framework. Liberty 672 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: was granted so that a people might govern themselves under 673 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: transcendent authority, not apart from it. 674 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: Now, in this two hundred and fiftieth. 675 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: Anniversary year of America's independence, that original question presses upon 676 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: us once again? Are we living as though freedom has 677 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: a purpose? Have we remembered that liberty is not merely 678 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: the absence of restraint, but the opportunity to align ourselves 679 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: with truth? Have we treated freedom as a gift to 680 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: steward or as an entitlement to consume? Exodus confronts every 681 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: generation with the same call. God delivers people not to 682 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: independence from him, but obedience to him. When a nation 683 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: forgets that freedom is meant for service to God, it 684 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: loses the purpose of freedom, and soon freedom itself. Those 685 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: words still echo, let my people go that they may 686 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: serve me. The future of our liberty depends on whether 687 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: we remember the second half of that sentence. That is 688 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: this week on Capitol Hill.