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Speaker 1: this is John. As you've probably heard by now after

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Speaker 1: 10 years of Talk About That episodes airing most every week,

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Speaker 2: Today on Talk About That, John thinks he worries better

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Speaker 2: the U.S. almost got a pinstriped flag. Plus, a conversation

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Speaker 2: about gratitude and actively looking for the good in the

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Speaker 1: Johnny, it's a new year, but the same quality podcast

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Speaker 1: to talk about that. We're bringing it back for another year.

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Speaker 1: Let's run it back, bro.

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Speaker 2: You just want to, so you're saying we're just going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do the same over and over again.

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Speaker 2: That needs to be, nobody's ever done that. Nobody's ever

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Speaker 2: said like, hey, new year, hey, same you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're doing pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Planet Fitness would say that to me

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Speaker 2: because I've not canceled, so I'm still paying my fat

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Speaker 2: Because it's auto-draft. And I don't have the guts to

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Speaker 1: And they don't have to clean off another bench.

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Speaker 2: That's right. They don't have to do anything except for

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Speaker 2: Hey, won't that?

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Speaker 1: Won't it though? Guys, that's our episode.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see you Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: You know my rule of church membership.

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 1: I never preach about it.

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Speaker 1: Why? Everyone who's here is not there. Yeah. Everyone who's there.

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Speaker 1: He writes really strong, but when he's here, he's real wimpy.

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Speaker 1: It's wimpeo in the Greek. Hey, so it's cold. Yes.

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Speaker 2: The fingerless gloves are back. You look like an idiot.

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Speaker 2: You've got a weird, like, the beanie is pulled down

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Speaker 1: The front of my head gets cold, too.

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Speaker 1: And I do have permission to tell this story.

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Speaker 1: I have a beanie story.

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Speaker 2: So this is a North Face. Let me have permission

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Speaker 1: Well, you'll know why. This is a North Face beanie.

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Speaker 1: And I usually lose it after winter. Yeah. And I

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Speaker 1: Beautiful Christmas in Crossbow. And so we stop at the

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Speaker 1: Like right in the parking lot that someone has left.

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Speaker 1: She picks it up.

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Speaker 1: And so we have like this. this whole conversation i.

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Speaker 2: Mean sure it's riddled with lice but other than that

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Speaker 1: Had been run over by a car oh man you

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Speaker 1: we've traded roles now like if i stopped and did this.

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Speaker 2: We have beanie money now she is that what you

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Speaker 2: would say john to her He'd say, I think we're

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Speaker 1: We're doing pretty good.

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Speaker 2: We got beanie money.

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Speaker 1: We got $ 30.

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Speaker 2: And so, like— How many— you' re buying a $ 30 beanie now?

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Speaker 1: This North Face. Now, if you wanted those South Faces

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Speaker 1: or West Faces, those are like $ 20.

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Speaker 2: That's different. But anyway— It's just a North Face, but

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Speaker 1: And so she insisted. Like, it's been a whole thing.

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Speaker 1: And I'm wearing it right now.

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Speaker 1: Hold on. Hey.

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Speaker 2: You're wearing a parking lot beanie?

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing it. Did you launder this beanie? Of course.

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Speaker 1: She took it home. She washed it.

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Speaker 2: Did you check it for?

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Speaker 1: For what? It's been washed and sanitized.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, it might have microscopic little bugs or something.

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Speaker 1: Sanitized. What do you know? And there's like.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean? You dunked it in water?

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Speaker 1: It's like saying you can't use. You think these lice

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Speaker 1: can't swim? This means like you can't use a glass

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Speaker 2: If that plate was run over in the parking lot.

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Speaker 1: That's a little different. But I just was like, honey,

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Speaker 2: Do you need some help? Just be honest with me

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Speaker 2: right now. Do I need to loan you some money? Johnny.

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Speaker 2: Are you all in trouble?

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Speaker 1: I just think.

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Speaker 2: Guys, if you'd want to become a patron of the

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Speaker 2: show at this point, this is a good time to

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Speaker 2: bring this up. Where would they go, John?

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Speaker 1: They'd go to talkaboutthatpodcast.com.

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Speaker 2: Click on the upper right hand. That's how you support

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Speaker 2: Send us a message to it. Hello. I talk about

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Speaker 2: that podcast.com. Send John a beanie because evidently he's in trouble.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling that this beanie, because it has

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Speaker 1: such a storied history now in our family.

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Speaker 2: You won't lose it.

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Speaker 1: I won't lose it. Yeah. This will be the one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Every year. But I love my wife. This was just

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Speaker 1: She was like, no, don't. Finally, yesterday, she goes, all right,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why she would be... You got... Because

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Speaker 2: she pointed it out.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to make fun of her for picking up

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Speaker 1: a parking lot beanie in a Starbucks.

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Speaker 2: I think that's just... She needs to understand that's part

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Speaker 2: think I generally tell... Good stories about Laura. I think

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Speaker 2: generally it's insane. I think people think she floats on

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Speaker 2: a cloud and walks on water. No. She won't say anything.

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Speaker 1: She can hop on water.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fine.

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Speaker 2: You told me that you saw the new Wicked movie.

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Speaker 2: And you would sell more snacks. Because now they know

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

444
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Speaker 2: Versus if you go to a movie, and you go, well, look,

445
00:17:45,061 --> 00:17:46,042
Speaker 2: the movie's going to be what it is.

446
00:17:46,822 --> 00:17:47,022
Speaker 1: Yeah.

447
00:17:47,161 --> 00:17:47,462
Speaker 2: You know.

448
00:17:48,042 --> 00:17:49,782
Speaker 1: Right, because you're experiencing it individually.

449
00:17:50,101 --> 00:17:53,222
Speaker 2: But I did a show in Lowell, Arkansas, and the

450
00:17:53,342 --> 00:17:55,362
Speaker 2: last two shows, Friday and Saturday, were both sold out,

451
00:17:55,502 --> 00:17:57,661
Speaker 2: and it was a lot of fun. And they were

452
00:17:57,702 --> 00:18:00,181
Speaker 2: packed in there, and there's an energy that when you

453
00:18:00,222 --> 00:18:02,342
Speaker 2: walk out, it just feels like a party in a

454
00:18:02,382 --> 00:18:06,962
Speaker 2: different way for comedy. So live entertainment, you definitely... It's

455
00:18:06,982 --> 00:18:08,101
Speaker 2: still there. It's happening.

456
00:18:09,202 --> 00:18:10,451
Speaker 1: It is. It is.

457
00:18:10,532 --> 00:18:11,972
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah.

458
00:18:12,371 --> 00:18:13,552
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what other.

459
00:18:13,972 --> 00:18:15,332
Speaker 2: But some things you want to go and you go,

460
00:18:15,351 --> 00:18:16,431
Speaker 2: I hope nobody else is.

461
00:18:16,652 --> 00:18:16,952
Speaker 1: Yeah.

462
00:18:17,612 --> 00:18:19,352
Speaker 2: I hope when we go to this restaurant, it's easy

463
00:18:19,371 --> 00:18:21,052
Speaker 2: to get a table and I hope it's empty. And

464
00:18:21,072 --> 00:18:23,821
Speaker 2: I hope the food's great, like a great restaurant would

465
00:18:23,842 --> 00:18:25,641
Speaker 2: be that would be full. Right. But I hope we

466
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Speaker 2: caught them on a night where it's empty.

467
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Speaker 1: I think in the movies, the one thing I don't want,

468
00:18:29,601 --> 00:18:31,842
Speaker 1: I can handle more people. I just don't want to

469
00:18:31,862 --> 00:18:32,942
Speaker 1: have to stand up when they have to go to

470
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Speaker 1: the bathroom.

471
00:18:34,382 --> 00:18:36,772
Speaker 2: Wait a minute. You want to, oh, okay.

472
00:18:36,911 --> 00:18:37,812
Speaker 1: To let him out of the aisle.

473
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Speaker 2: I thought you meant you don't want to stand up

474
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Speaker 2: when you have to go. I was like, wait a minute, John.

475
00:18:41,792 --> 00:18:43,571
Speaker 2: I just want to sit there and go in my

476
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Speaker 2: seat and then just like, that just be part of

477
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Speaker 2: the theater experience.

478
00:18:46,942 --> 00:18:48,492
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Why do they keep kicking me out?

479
00:18:48,492 --> 00:18:51,482
Speaker 2: What I want is a theater full of toilets. And

480
00:18:51,522 --> 00:18:54,122
Speaker 2: if we could somehow, and I think that's where it's headed, John.

481
00:18:54,222 --> 00:18:54,961
Speaker 1: I think it is, Johnny.

482
00:18:55,101 --> 00:18:58,702
Speaker 2: That's going to be, that's the grossest theater I've ever

483
00:18:58,742 --> 00:19:01,282
Speaker 2: heard of. That's weird.

484
00:19:02,181 --> 00:19:02,942
Speaker 1: Hey, it's about that time, Josh.

485
00:19:02,962 --> 00:19:03,462
Speaker 2: Oh, is it?

486
00:19:03,482 --> 00:19:05,561
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little segment. It's my quote of the week.

487
00:19:05,621 --> 00:19:23,071
Speaker 1: We call it, They Talked About That. I don't speak French.

488
00:19:23,572 --> 00:19:24,712
Speaker 2: Okay.

489
00:19:24,891 --> 00:19:27,592
Speaker 1: But I'm assuming this is Michelle de Montague.

490
00:19:28,391 --> 00:19:28,932
Speaker 2: Montague? Montague?

491
00:19:29,272 --> 00:19:32,942
Speaker 1: No, it's M-O-N-T-A-I-G-N-E.

492
00:19:33,882 --> 00:19:34,782
Speaker 2: Oh, Montaigne.

493
00:19:34,982 --> 00:19:36,202
Speaker 1: Montaigne, possibly.

494
00:19:36,322 --> 00:19:37,202
Speaker 2: Yeah.

495
00:19:37,222 --> 00:19:40,542
Speaker 1: A 1580 would be when he was born, yeah. This

496
00:19:40,601 --> 00:19:41,982
Speaker 1: is great. This is great for New Year's, I think.

497
00:19:42,782 --> 00:19:46,821
Speaker 1: He who fears he shall suffer already suffers what he fears.

498
00:19:48,121 --> 00:19:48,542
Speaker 2: That's good.

499
00:19:48,862 --> 00:19:49,102
Speaker 1: Yeah.

500
00:19:49,661 --> 00:19:52,122
Speaker 2: And there's a similar quote like that from Corrie ten

501
00:19:52,141 --> 00:19:58,822
Speaker 2: Boom that's something about like worry doesn't rob. tomorrow of

502
00:19:58,902 --> 00:20:02,002
Speaker 2: its sorrow it robs today of its strength yeah so

503
00:20:02,081 --> 00:20:04,282
Speaker 2: she totally ripped off this montaigne.

504
00:20:03,802 --> 00:20:06,482
Speaker 1: Guy i'm not even sure that's really hers either okay

505
00:20:06,561 --> 00:20:12,071
Speaker 1: i feel like that i have that from earlier um.

506
00:20:11,152 --> 00:20:13,332
Speaker 2: But yeah it's a similar thought it's a it's good

507
00:20:13,411 --> 00:20:16,272
Speaker 2: it's the idea of like yeah you we do and

508
00:20:17,132 --> 00:20:18,952
Speaker 2: it's interesting that something the 15 a's would be writing

509
00:20:19,012 --> 00:20:23,292
Speaker 2: about what essentially is anxiety because we think of i

510
00:20:23,331 --> 00:20:26,672
Speaker 2: think this is the most anxious generation that we've ever

511
00:20:26,732 --> 00:20:32,102
Speaker 2: had in america for sure. And social media, the very

512
00:20:32,262 --> 00:20:39,371
Speaker 2: online nature, the immediacy, the access to everyone's opinions and

513
00:20:39,431 --> 00:20:42,852
Speaker 2: problems that we didn't. But it's always interesting to think,

514
00:20:42,911 --> 00:20:46,642
Speaker 2: because I guess I idealize the distant past as some

515
00:20:47,192 --> 00:20:49,991
Speaker 2: culture that like oh well they had stuff and they

516
00:20:50,032 --> 00:20:52,891
Speaker 2: had you know they had the dark ages and they

517
00:20:52,952 --> 00:20:56,311
Speaker 2: had scarlet fever right right but it was like a

518
00:20:56,351 --> 00:21:00,332
Speaker 2: very specific right common thing.

519
00:21:00,772 --> 00:21:02,942
Speaker 1: We had human right i mean and you can i

520
00:21:02,982 --> 00:21:04,221
Speaker 1: think that's one thing i want to read history that

521
00:21:04,242 --> 00:21:07,642
Speaker 1: really helps because that there is a modern bias yeah

522
00:21:07,962 --> 00:21:12,161
Speaker 1: that can get reversed like you said into a a

523
00:21:12,262 --> 00:21:15,302
Speaker 1: historical bias And that you believe everything that we make

524
00:21:15,342 --> 00:21:18,282
Speaker 1: today is better, but you believe people are better or

525
00:21:18,322 --> 00:21:20,262
Speaker 1: didn't struggle with what we struggled with in the past.

526
00:21:20,402 --> 00:21:23,581
Speaker 1: That's sort of the make whatever this is like it

527
00:21:23,702 --> 00:21:25,262
Speaker 1: used to be again kind of idea.

528
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Speaker 2: I wonder why we do that. There's got to be

529
00:21:27,402 --> 00:21:30,442
Speaker 2: something that's self-protective into why we do that.

530
00:21:31,581 --> 00:21:33,882
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's because we just take kids on

531
00:21:33,922 --> 00:21:37,981
Speaker 1: youth group trips and all these difficult things would happen.

532
00:21:38,002 --> 00:21:40,882
Speaker 1: And just give it about six weeks afterwards and their

533
00:21:40,962 --> 00:21:44,371
Speaker 1: memories are only of the good things generally. Yeah. It's,

534
00:21:44,492 --> 00:21:46,052
Speaker 1: you know, they are.

535
00:21:46,072 --> 00:21:48,031
Speaker 2: Or even the bad thing is now this adventure that

536
00:21:48,052 --> 00:21:48,412
Speaker 2: we had.

537
00:21:48,732 --> 00:21:48,932
Speaker 1: Right.

538
00:21:48,952 --> 00:21:50,712
Speaker 2: We got a flat and I couldn't believe so and

539
00:21:50,732 --> 00:21:52,381
Speaker 2: so didn't get hit by the passing car.

540
00:21:52,422 --> 00:21:55,341
Speaker 1: But sometimes the kids attitudes were awful when it was happening. Yeah,

541
00:21:55,382 --> 00:21:57,662
Speaker 1: for sure. And I think I see that as a dad.

542
00:21:57,681 --> 00:22:00,341
Speaker 1: So I do think some people, they only remember the negative.

543
00:22:00,362 --> 00:22:00,502
Speaker 2: Right.

544
00:22:00,522 --> 00:22:02,562
Speaker 1: But most of us, as life gets ahead, I think

545
00:22:02,601 --> 00:22:04,661
Speaker 1: maybe it's some sort of part of our chemistry.

546
00:22:04,902 --> 00:22:05,122
Speaker 2: Yeah.

547
00:22:05,302 --> 00:22:08,502
Speaker 1: Our brain says, I'm only going to store here. Unless

548
00:22:08,542 --> 00:22:11,182
Speaker 1: it's trauma or whatever. But if it's just like an experience,

549
00:22:11,222 --> 00:22:12,922
Speaker 1: I'm going to store what was most positive.

550
00:22:13,042 --> 00:22:15,101
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just weird, though, like to go through. I

551
00:22:15,502 --> 00:22:18,302
Speaker 2: think it can be good. It's like you said, it's self-protective.

552
00:22:18,342 --> 00:22:20,392
Speaker 2: And that's a good thing where we go like, I'm

553
00:22:20,442 --> 00:22:24,232
Speaker 2: going to remember this fondly. Even the bad stuff, even

554
00:22:24,252 --> 00:22:26,472
Speaker 2: being broken. Like people, I see comedians all the time.

555
00:22:26,512 --> 00:22:28,932
Speaker 2: They talk about how broke we were as kids. My

556
00:22:28,972 --> 00:22:31,152
Speaker 2: dad didn't blah, blah, blah. And there's funny anecdotes and

557
00:22:31,192 --> 00:22:34,152
Speaker 2: people can relate to it. But nobody wants to be

558
00:22:34,252 --> 00:22:35,052
Speaker 2: poor as a kid.

559
00:22:35,462 --> 00:22:35,662
Speaker 1: Right.

560
00:22:35,742 --> 00:22:39,442
Speaker 2: There's some protective thing that your brain does that goes, yeah,

561
00:22:39,902 --> 00:22:42,181
Speaker 2: we didn't have much, but with the stuff we did have,

562
00:22:42,202 --> 00:22:44,482
Speaker 2: we appreciated it or we're better than those rich people

563
00:22:44,502 --> 00:22:46,262
Speaker 2: that are spoiled and they don't even appreciate the stuff

564
00:22:46,282 --> 00:22:48,582
Speaker 2: they have or whatever it is. You're kind of making

565
00:22:48,621 --> 00:22:52,182
Speaker 2: yourself superior in a way by doing that. There's not,

566
00:22:52,192 --> 00:22:53,712
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with it, but

567
00:22:53,752 --> 00:22:56,352
Speaker 2: it is fascinating to me why we do it and

568
00:22:56,752 --> 00:23:01,331
Speaker 2: how your brain works. Like the, the idealized mythical past

569
00:23:01,431 --> 00:23:02,152
Speaker 2: thing that we do.

570
00:23:03,292 --> 00:23:06,941
Speaker 1: It's interesting because when you said that, it's another quote.

571
00:23:07,502 --> 00:23:10,492
Speaker 1: Tim Keller was quoting Proust when he said, he's talking

572
00:23:10,512 --> 00:23:13,032
Speaker 1: about wisdom, but he says, it can only be discovered, quote,

573
00:23:13,692 --> 00:23:15,972
Speaker 1: after a journey through the wilderness which no one can

574
00:23:16,032 --> 00:23:18,652
Speaker 1: make for us and which no one can spare us.

575
00:23:19,311 --> 00:23:20,911
Speaker 1: So I do think the reason we look back is

576
00:23:21,092 --> 00:23:23,952
Speaker 1: people see what's good in it now because they've been

577
00:23:23,992 --> 00:23:26,442
Speaker 1: through the wilderness and they're on the other side. So

578
00:23:26,462 --> 00:23:29,102
Speaker 1: when a person who grew up in poverty now has enough,

579
00:23:29,581 --> 00:23:32,922
Speaker 1: the poverty no longer has control over them. They don't

580
00:23:32,942 --> 00:23:34,811
Speaker 1: have to be afraid of it anymore anymore. So now

581
00:23:34,851 --> 00:23:36,872
Speaker 1: they can look at it and go, oh, one, there's

582
00:23:36,911 --> 00:23:40,882
Speaker 1: the benefit of grit and coming through and I survived,

583
00:23:41,482 --> 00:23:43,982
Speaker 1: that you can now see what's positive about it, removing

584
00:23:44,002 --> 00:23:46,542
Speaker 1: the negative. And I think worry is one of those,

585
00:23:46,561 --> 00:23:49,422
Speaker 1: it is a universal thing, there's no doubt. Because if

586
00:23:49,442 --> 00:23:52,402
Speaker 1: you think about how much scripture says, you know, it

587
00:23:52,442 --> 00:23:55,082
Speaker 1: talks in the ancient times about not being anxious for anything, right?

588
00:23:55,702 --> 00:23:57,722
Speaker 1: How many times, I just talked about this a lot

589
00:23:57,742 --> 00:24:02,532
Speaker 1: during Advent, every time there was an angelic messenger to someone,

590
00:24:02,592 --> 00:24:05,542
Speaker 1: the first words out of out of his mouth is

591
00:24:06,382 --> 00:24:07,122
Speaker 1: don't be afraid.

592
00:24:07,782 --> 00:24:07,962
Speaker 2: Right.

593
00:24:08,402 --> 00:24:12,232
Speaker 1: So there's a fear thing that, that's constant. Um, but

594
00:24:12,272 --> 00:24:15,172
Speaker 1: I think this idea that when I am worrying about something,

595
00:24:15,192 --> 00:24:18,672
Speaker 1: I am already, I mean, it's, this is maybe the

596
00:24:18,692 --> 00:24:20,812
Speaker 1: most profound way I've heard it said in a long time.

597
00:24:20,992 --> 00:24:23,351
Speaker 1: I'm already suffering from what I fear. Like I'm, I'm

598
00:24:23,512 --> 00:24:27,832
Speaker 1: already suffering that thing and it hasn't happened in advance. Yeah.

599
00:24:27,952 --> 00:24:31,911
Speaker 1: I'm a perennial worrier. Like I'm, I'm, I'm built, I'm

600
00:24:31,952 --> 00:24:34,792
Speaker 1: Enneagram six, right? So anxiety and anxiousness is kind of

601
00:24:34,831 --> 00:24:35,272
Speaker 1: a thing.

602
00:24:36,132 --> 00:24:38,252
Speaker 2: I think it's one thing to be a perennial worrier

603
00:24:38,592 --> 00:24:41,831
Speaker 2: like we are. It's another thing to, again, the defense

604
00:24:41,871 --> 00:24:45,532
Speaker 2: of the worry is I am doing it better than

605
00:24:45,572 --> 00:24:49,522
Speaker 2: the people who aren't worried. If you're not worried, what's

606
00:24:49,601 --> 00:24:51,962
Speaker 2: wrong with you? That's the thing that we think that

607
00:24:52,042 --> 00:24:55,372
Speaker 2: other people don't necessarily think is like, aren't you guys

608
00:24:55,411 --> 00:24:56,832
Speaker 2: seeing that the world's on fire?

609
00:24:56,851 --> 00:24:57,792
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

610
00:24:58,192 --> 00:25:00,232
Speaker 2: And so it's like, it's almost like an arrogance built

611
00:25:00,292 --> 00:25:00,861
Speaker 2: into the word.

612
00:25:00,882 --> 00:25:03,782
Speaker 1: So funny enough, my wife the other day said something.

613
00:25:04,422 --> 00:25:08,342
Speaker 1: Parenthood makes us both like the other more. It's really crazy. Yeah.

614
00:25:08,641 --> 00:25:12,561
Speaker 1: She's naturally more, she feels first, you know, she's in

615
00:25:12,601 --> 00:25:15,061
Speaker 1: a heart triad. I'm in a, in a mind triad.

616
00:25:15,782 --> 00:25:19,122
Speaker 2: And, um, these are, these are cults, John.

617
00:25:19,222 --> 00:25:22,462
Speaker 1: Although as a, as a dad, I was like, I

618
00:25:22,581 --> 00:25:26,302
Speaker 1: feel kind of what she feels like. I feel this pain.

619
00:25:27,161 --> 00:25:30,141
Speaker 1: If my kid for, for my kid, it's not intellectual.

620
00:25:30,181 --> 00:25:32,382
Speaker 1: Like I feel this thing and I'm like, this must

621
00:25:32,402 --> 00:25:34,861
Speaker 1: be what it feels like to feel like you sometimes.

622
00:25:34,942 --> 00:25:38,342
Speaker 1: And she thinks through a lot of the worries that

623
00:25:38,362 --> 00:25:40,241
Speaker 1: she wouldn't normally do. But again, your kid seems to

624
00:25:40,282 --> 00:25:42,462
Speaker 1: bring out these things. The other day, she said something

625
00:25:42,482 --> 00:25:45,292
Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, man, you're just like,

626
00:25:45,331 --> 00:25:48,712
Speaker 1: you're being an amateur right now with your forecasting of disaster.

627
00:25:48,772 --> 00:25:51,891
Speaker 1: Cause what she forecasted was like some extreme disaster. I

628
00:25:51,891 --> 00:25:54,632
Speaker 1: was like, okay, first of all, leave the worrying to

629
00:25:54,652 --> 00:25:57,452
Speaker 1: the professionals. Those of us who think all the time

630
00:25:57,492 --> 00:25:59,272
Speaker 1: about what's going to go wrong, we would never go

631
00:25:59,311 --> 00:26:04,132
Speaker 1: that far. Cause that's not even, that's not even reasonable, logical, rational.

632
00:26:04,192 --> 00:26:06,351
Speaker 1: Like we think within a rational place and we, but

633
00:26:06,371 --> 00:26:08,132
Speaker 1: I was laughing because I was, I was saying, I

634
00:26:08,172 --> 00:26:10,972
Speaker 1: worry better than you. I know that I do. And

635
00:26:11,101 --> 00:26:12,942
Speaker 1: you feel better than I do. I worry better than

636
00:26:12,952 --> 00:26:14,442
Speaker 1: you do, but it's, it's just a.

637
00:26:15,242 --> 00:26:18,432
Speaker 2: She's better at picking out hats. I will give her that.

638
00:26:19,222 --> 00:26:22,252
Speaker 1: I want, I see this. If one thing I learned

639
00:26:22,292 --> 00:26:24,491
Speaker 1: from 12 steps here, and I know if someone's doing

640
00:26:24,512 --> 00:26:26,292
Speaker 1: the bingo card, I've hit a lot of them so far,

641
00:26:26,311 --> 00:26:30,312
Speaker 1: Enneagram and 12 steps, but something that really, really got

642
00:26:30,351 --> 00:26:33,091
Speaker 1: me was is sobriety happens 24 hours at a time.

643
00:26:33,851 --> 00:26:36,871
Speaker 1: And in sobriety, one of the things I am in

644
00:26:36,911 --> 00:26:41,951
Speaker 1: recovery from is anxiousness and fear and worry. And the

645
00:26:41,992 --> 00:26:45,132
Speaker 1: goal would be, You're not going to spend, like, there

646
00:26:45,152 --> 00:26:47,141
Speaker 1: was another quote we read last year, I think. I

647
00:26:47,161 --> 00:26:48,681
Speaker 1: didn't use it this year, about a guy saying, I

648
00:26:48,942 --> 00:26:53,042
Speaker 1: really don't live according to a year-long resolution, but more

649
00:26:53,061 --> 00:26:55,821
Speaker 1: just a daily resolution. Like, I make resolutions for today,

650
00:26:55,862 --> 00:26:56,482
Speaker 1: not for the year.

651
00:26:56,802 --> 00:26:57,002
Speaker 2: Yeah.

652
00:26:57,081 --> 00:26:59,261
Speaker 1: Because you're not going to do it. Like, it's not

653
00:26:59,282 --> 00:26:59,702
Speaker 1: going to work.

654
00:26:59,982 --> 00:27:01,692
Speaker 2: I want to do daily resolutions, but I want it

655
00:27:01,712 --> 00:27:05,972
Speaker 2: to be every day to lose 50 pounds. I want,

656
00:27:06,212 --> 00:27:07,651
Speaker 2: within a week, I won't be here, John.

657
00:27:07,732 --> 00:27:10,292
Speaker 1: Well, again, daily resolutions put on top of each other, right?

658
00:27:10,532 --> 00:27:15,482
Speaker 1: Make a long-term goal. So that idea of I would

659
00:27:15,561 --> 00:27:19,502
Speaker 1: love to be sober from worry today so that I

660
00:27:19,522 --> 00:27:22,641
Speaker 1: don't suffer what I fear. And I think, Johnny, the

661
00:27:22,762 --> 00:27:27,522
Speaker 1: easiest way, because just tell someone, don't worry. It's offensive.

662
00:27:28,002 --> 00:27:29,981
Speaker 1: It's offensive when I'm really in my headspace.

663
00:27:30,042 --> 00:27:34,432
Speaker 2: Shout out to Bobby McFerrin. Turns out John's super offended

664
00:27:34,452 --> 00:27:37,702
Speaker 2: by you. How could you just walk in here and

665
00:27:37,782 --> 00:27:41,412
Speaker 2: whistle and say, don't worry, comma, be happy.

666
00:27:41,532 --> 00:27:42,282
Speaker 1: Jeez, I'm sick of it.

667
00:27:42,292 --> 00:27:46,412
Speaker 2: Get out of here. Get some instruments, you loser. Mouth

668
00:27:46,492 --> 00:27:47,191
Speaker 2: noise making.

669
00:27:47,811 --> 00:27:51,012
Speaker 1: Okay. I think that this telling someone doesn't do it.

670
00:27:51,012 --> 00:27:53,211
Speaker 1: You have to do something. You can't just not do something.

671
00:27:53,232 --> 00:27:54,272
Speaker 2: What's the proactive step?

672
00:27:54,492 --> 00:27:57,052
Speaker 1: I think it's gratitude. Okay. I think if you can

673
00:27:57,212 --> 00:28:01,522
Speaker 1: find what it is in your life that's already good,

674
00:28:01,561 --> 00:28:05,802
Speaker 1: that isn't So if humanity has a suffering to use,

675
00:28:06,322 --> 00:28:11,062
Speaker 1: you know, this quote, I mean, humanity also has beauty.

676
00:28:11,081 --> 00:28:13,642
Speaker 1: I think it was Keller who said in that same book,

677
00:28:13,681 --> 00:28:15,182
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, look, the world is both

678
00:28:15,242 --> 00:28:18,812
Speaker 1: beautiful and terrible. And like when you when you understand

679
00:28:18,851 --> 00:28:21,292
Speaker 1: that you live in wisdom, when you don't just expect

680
00:28:21,351 --> 00:28:23,232
Speaker 1: it to only be terrible or expect it to only

681
00:28:23,272 --> 00:28:26,452
Speaker 1: be beautiful, but be OK with the tension of the two. Right.

682
00:28:26,512 --> 00:28:28,992
Speaker 1: That you're living in between. But you have to find

683
00:28:29,032 --> 00:28:31,442
Speaker 1: what is beautiful. And that's what to be grateful for.

684
00:28:31,482 --> 00:28:35,002
Speaker 1: So gratitude being this action you take to really pay

685
00:28:35,042 --> 00:28:37,322
Speaker 1: attention and not just count your blessings. I mean, it's

686
00:28:37,382 --> 00:28:39,382
Speaker 1: okay if that's the word you want to use for it.

687
00:28:39,692 --> 00:28:41,432
Speaker 1: But those of us who grew up in the faith,

688
00:28:42,472 --> 00:28:45,451
Speaker 1: that kind of just rings hollow like a platitude. I'm

689
00:28:45,472 --> 00:28:48,872
Speaker 1: not just counting. I want to be intentional about what

690
00:28:48,992 --> 00:28:52,882
Speaker 1: makes my life full and complete today that God has

691
00:28:52,962 --> 00:28:55,402
Speaker 1: given in my relationship with him and then the blessings

692
00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:57,022
Speaker 1: that flow down from it to others. And I think

693
00:28:57,062 --> 00:29:00,882
Speaker 1: being grateful for that will hopefully replace worry. Because remember

694
00:29:00,902 --> 00:29:03,522
Speaker 1: when Jesus said, this seems dark, when he cast out

695
00:29:03,562 --> 00:29:07,241
Speaker 1: a demon one time, he said, when this happens, it's

696
00:29:07,282 --> 00:29:09,822
Speaker 1: like that demon goes to the wilderness. And then it's

697
00:29:09,862 --> 00:29:13,671
Speaker 1: like this home, this mind, this person is like swept

698
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:17,272
Speaker 1: and clean. But if something doesn't come and occupy, then

699
00:29:17,292 --> 00:29:19,322
Speaker 1: that will come back and bring worse things with it.

700
00:29:19,632 --> 00:29:21,342
Speaker 1: So we're not made to be empty. We're made to

701
00:29:21,382 --> 00:29:24,752
Speaker 1: be occupied by something, right? So I think that's the

702
00:29:24,772 --> 00:29:26,912
Speaker 1: same thing. You can't just get rid of worry. Something

703
00:29:26,952 --> 00:29:28,232
Speaker 1: else has to sit in its seat.

704
00:29:28,332 --> 00:29:29,892
Speaker 2: To push it out with gratitude.

705
00:29:29,952 --> 00:29:30,132
Speaker 1: Yeah.

706
00:29:30,411 --> 00:29:33,362
Speaker 2: You have to give worry the eviction notice by being

707
00:29:33,402 --> 00:29:34,542
Speaker 2: thankful and grateful. Right.

708
00:29:34,622 --> 00:29:36,981
Speaker 1: And let something else live there. So when worry comes back,

709
00:29:37,542 --> 00:29:38,462
Speaker 1: there's no room for it.

710
00:29:38,522 --> 00:29:39,312
Speaker 2: I think we solved it.

711
00:29:39,622 --> 00:29:40,782
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, guys. I'm not going to worry

712
00:29:40,802 --> 00:29:41,342
Speaker 1: at all this year.

713
00:29:43,842 --> 00:29:44,671
Speaker 2: I'm going to go ahead and.

714
00:29:45,082 --> 00:29:46,512
Speaker 1: John, I'm already worried about that.

715
00:29:46,552 --> 00:29:52,292
Speaker 2: I'm worried about your claims. Void in Tennessee. There you go. No,

716
00:29:52,312 --> 00:29:55,972
Speaker 2: it's a good one, though. I don't really do resolutions anymore,

717
00:29:56,012 --> 00:29:58,492
Speaker 2: but if there's one, I do think I really have

718
00:29:58,562 --> 00:30:04,002
Speaker 2: tried in my career when I started this, because we

719
00:30:04,022 --> 00:30:06,602
Speaker 2: did the band thing, and it felt like we were

720
00:30:06,661 --> 00:30:08,902
Speaker 2: so wrapped up in making it or whatever that meant

721
00:30:09,542 --> 00:30:11,492
Speaker 2: that we would just live in these weird highs and lows,

722
00:30:11,512 --> 00:30:13,991
Speaker 2: a roller coaster of life. Somebody's going to discover us

723
00:30:14,052 --> 00:30:16,352
Speaker 2: and all that. And when I started doing comedy, it

724
00:30:16,392 --> 00:30:19,192
Speaker 2: felt like I just discovered this weird gift that I

725
00:30:19,232 --> 00:30:22,152
Speaker 2: did not expect at all and I was always so

726
00:30:22,212 --> 00:30:25,332
Speaker 2: surprised by it and I wanted to maintain that surprise

727
00:30:27,092 --> 00:30:30,122
Speaker 2: and not have an expectation of what it could be

728
00:30:30,232 --> 00:30:31,682
Speaker 2: and so I made up my mind I would always

729
00:30:31,712 --> 00:30:34,562
Speaker 2: kind of like stop and appreciate these moments that I

730
00:30:34,622 --> 00:30:37,302
Speaker 2: was given because they're just total gifts along the way

731
00:30:37,842 --> 00:30:40,472
Speaker 2: and not expect everything to be this like, this will

732
00:30:40,512 --> 00:30:42,932
Speaker 2: mean I'm a real boy now, if I can have

733
00:30:43,012 --> 00:30:46,032
Speaker 2: this moment. And I just really, I think I've kept

734
00:30:46,072 --> 00:30:48,411
Speaker 2: that promise for the most part. That's not to say

735
00:30:48,452 --> 00:30:51,441
Speaker 2: I've never been envious of another comedian, or I've never

736
00:30:52,042 --> 00:30:54,902
Speaker 2: wanted something I didn't get or been mad. That has happened.

737
00:30:54,922 --> 00:30:59,161
Speaker 2: But generally, compared to my music stuff, it's been a

738
00:30:59,262 --> 00:31:03,232
Speaker 2: lot different. My attitude has been one of more gratitude

739
00:31:03,272 --> 00:31:06,602
Speaker 2: and more like, Can you believe this happened? Yeah. Even

740
00:31:06,642 --> 00:31:09,242
Speaker 2: if it's like a weekend of shows at the Chuckle

741
00:31:09,282 --> 00:31:12,902
Speaker 2: Hut in Boise, you're just still like, yeah, but I

742
00:31:12,942 --> 00:31:15,521
Speaker 2: got to go do that. I wasn't, you know, somewhere

743
00:31:15,622 --> 00:31:17,981
Speaker 2: else in a cubicle doing a job that I didn't want.

744
00:31:18,542 --> 00:31:20,182
Speaker 1: When some of that, like I said, comes with adulthood,

745
00:31:20,202 --> 00:31:23,082
Speaker 1: I think, and maturity, it doesn't have to. You can

746
00:31:23,302 --> 00:31:27,402
Speaker 1: get chronologically older and not more mature emotionally. That's very possible.

747
00:31:27,862 --> 00:31:30,702
Speaker 1: But someone who's worked at Home Depot. Right.

748
00:31:30,982 --> 00:31:31,182
Speaker 2: Right.

749
00:31:31,882 --> 00:31:34,732
Speaker 1: You go, okay, I know. That's a great job. Look

750
00:31:34,752 --> 00:31:36,511
Speaker 1: what I get to do. How many people— and we talk

751
00:31:36,532 --> 00:31:37,612
Speaker 1: about that all the time. You and I get to

752
00:31:37,792 --> 00:31:40,852
Speaker 1: use— we somehow, up to this point, it may not always

753
00:31:40,892 --> 00:31:45,132
Speaker 1: be this way. Right. We get to use our brains. Yeah. Right?

754
00:31:45,592 --> 00:31:46,491
Speaker 2: In as much as they are.

755
00:31:46,512 --> 00:31:48,232
Speaker 1: Jokes on you guys.

756
00:31:48,272 --> 00:31:49,272
Speaker 2: People, though they may be.

757
00:31:49,532 --> 00:31:52,211
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, like— and that is, I think, to

758
00:31:52,272 --> 00:31:55,682
Speaker 1: keep— my dad worked three jobs. He was a pastor. Same

759
00:31:55,722 --> 00:31:58,181
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I never thought that would be my

760
00:31:58,242 --> 00:31:58,762
Speaker 1: main job.

761
00:31:59,422 --> 00:31:59,982
Speaker 2: Yeah.

762
00:32:00,202 --> 00:32:01,722
Speaker 1: I'm still surprised to this day.

763
00:32:01,802 --> 00:32:03,142
Speaker 2: And it's not that I don't feel like I work

764
00:32:03,161 --> 00:32:05,642
Speaker 2: hard or don't deserve, earn, deserve what I got. It's

765
00:32:05,681 --> 00:32:08,442
Speaker 2: not that it's who deserves anything, but it's that thing

766
00:32:08,502 --> 00:32:11,682
Speaker 2: of like, there is a weird sense of it. Like

767
00:32:11,762 --> 00:32:14,072
Speaker 2: when I go out and I tell the first joke

768
00:32:14,152 --> 00:32:19,752
Speaker 2: to a crowd and if it gets a laugh, it's

769
00:32:19,792 --> 00:32:24,632
Speaker 2: not like I feel surprised, but I immediately feel relieved. Yeah. Like, okay,

770
00:32:24,892 --> 00:32:26,472
Speaker 2: if they laughed at that, they'll probably laugh at this

771
00:32:26,512 --> 00:32:28,292
Speaker 2: next thing. And then you just are off to the races.

772
00:32:28,312 --> 00:32:31,562
Speaker 2: But like, that feeling never really went away for me.

773
00:32:31,782 --> 00:32:35,012
Speaker 2: I still have that same feeling. So that's such a,

774
00:32:35,642 --> 00:32:38,332
Speaker 2: a gift. And I try to stay grateful for it. And, uh,

775
00:32:38,392 --> 00:32:40,652
Speaker 2: but again, I don't know. It's, I think that's the

776
00:32:40,692 --> 00:32:42,372
Speaker 2: closest thing to a resolution that I would say I

777
00:32:42,411 --> 00:32:44,952
Speaker 2: make is like, I want to really appreciate this time,

778
00:32:45,411 --> 00:32:47,852
Speaker 2: especially right now. Curry's traveling with me and that's been

779
00:32:47,892 --> 00:32:50,272
Speaker 2: so cool. And I know that it won't be this

780
00:32:50,292 --> 00:32:53,752
Speaker 2: way forever. It's a season that we're in. And so, um,

781
00:32:54,732 --> 00:32:57,312
Speaker 2: I really am. That's pretty cool that I don't have

782
00:32:57,332 --> 00:32:59,972
Speaker 2: to be like, Hey, sorry, I'll see you. in four days,

783
00:33:00,472 --> 00:33:02,512
Speaker 2: like I had been doing for years, you know, where

784
00:33:02,532 --> 00:33:04,512
Speaker 2: I'll just, I'm gone. And then it's just like, I

785
00:33:04,532 --> 00:33:06,232
Speaker 2: have to come home and tell her like, what did

786
00:33:06,272 --> 00:33:07,552
Speaker 2: you do? And she'll tell me about her job. And

787
00:33:07,572 --> 00:33:09,392
Speaker 2: I'll be like, oh, I did this. And they're totally like,

788
00:33:09,411 --> 00:33:11,751
Speaker 2: you have to kind of catch up. It's just a weird,

789
00:33:12,472 --> 00:33:13,931
Speaker 2: we don't really have to do that now. We're in

790
00:33:13,972 --> 00:33:17,372
Speaker 2: this season right now where we're just, we're going to Shreveport,

791
00:33:17,772 --> 00:33:20,632
Speaker 2: but we're going together. So Shreveport may not be whatever,

792
00:33:20,672 --> 00:33:22,911
Speaker 2: but we're going to be together in the airport in Shreveport.

793
00:33:23,752 --> 00:33:25,672
Speaker 1: The airport in Shreveport. Come on now.

794
00:33:26,102 --> 00:33:28,012
Speaker 2: That's of course where they ship all the Shreves. I

795
00:33:28,032 --> 00:33:31,262
Speaker 2: don't know if you knew. anything about Shreveport, but every

796
00:33:31,302 --> 00:33:33,582
Speaker 2: day they come running down to the Shreve docks.

797
00:33:34,042 --> 00:33:34,532
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.

798
00:33:34,642 --> 00:33:37,282
Speaker 2: And it is, the Shreve boats are coming in and

799
00:33:37,302 --> 00:33:40,952
Speaker 2: they do a dance. It's amazing. Really, honestly. Yeah.

800
00:33:42,532 --> 00:33:44,232
Speaker 1: I think I said that Sunday, like, hey, most important

801
00:33:44,252 --> 00:33:46,712
Speaker 1: thing right now I'm feeling is know yourself and know

802
00:33:46,732 --> 00:33:47,251
Speaker 1: your season.

803
00:33:47,452 --> 00:33:47,652
Speaker 2: Yeah.

804
00:33:47,872 --> 00:33:50,312
Speaker 1: If you expect the self you are in a different

805
00:33:50,372 --> 00:33:54,942
Speaker 1: season to experience everything as you did, you'll be constantly

806
00:33:54,962 --> 00:33:59,092
Speaker 1: disappointed or putting something else on like, Like, hey, so

807
00:33:59,372 --> 00:34:01,051
Speaker 1: if you can know yourself and know your season, then

808
00:34:01,072 --> 00:34:03,592
Speaker 1: you can actually enjoy life. But if not, you'll always

809
00:34:03,632 --> 00:34:05,231
Speaker 1: be comparing to a season you think you should be

810
00:34:05,292 --> 00:34:07,742
Speaker 1: or one that you were in and you won't know yourself.

811
00:34:07,782 --> 00:34:10,102
Speaker 1: So I love that you're enjoying that with your wife.

812
00:34:10,161 --> 00:34:12,522
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a great advice. Don't wait to

813
00:34:12,562 --> 00:34:15,212
Speaker 2: be like you can't. There is a there is a

814
00:34:15,242 --> 00:34:17,872
Speaker 2: happiness you can just choose. There really is. Look on

815
00:34:18,152 --> 00:34:21,782
Speaker 2: look on something that is good. I always feel a

816
00:34:21,802 --> 00:34:24,362
Speaker 2: little bit weird about it because that part of me goes, well,

817
00:34:24,382 --> 00:34:26,411
Speaker 2: all I'm doing is looking away from the bad things

818
00:34:26,431 --> 00:34:29,511
Speaker 2: that are happening. There's wildfires in LA right now. So

819
00:34:29,592 --> 00:34:31,571
Speaker 2: if I pretend to focus on the good thing, aren't

820
00:34:31,632 --> 00:34:33,911
Speaker 2: I ignoring the wildfires? There's that part of me that

821
00:34:34,012 --> 00:34:35,152
Speaker 2: always is going to do that.

822
00:34:35,312 --> 00:34:37,712
Speaker 1: That's the assumption though. The assumption there is that the

823
00:34:37,792 --> 00:34:40,602
Speaker 1: negative things are more true than the positive. I found

824
00:34:40,622 --> 00:34:43,822
Speaker 1: that assumption in life and in people. And that's hit

825
00:34:43,862 --> 00:34:46,042
Speaker 1: me in the last year. We act as if what's

826
00:34:46,122 --> 00:34:49,681
Speaker 1: negative because it it hits us harder. Right.

827
00:34:49,762 --> 00:34:50,502
Speaker 2: It feels more powerful.

828
00:34:50,562 --> 00:34:53,011
Speaker 1: It feels more powerful or more true, but it's not,

829
00:34:53,132 --> 00:34:55,112
Speaker 1: it might, it might affect your life more, but it's

830
00:34:55,212 --> 00:34:55,892
Speaker 1: not more true.

831
00:34:56,132 --> 00:34:56,392
Speaker 2: Yeah.

832
00:34:56,492 --> 00:34:59,212
Speaker 1: To see what's real and true. That's positive is not

833
00:34:59,372 --> 00:35:00,992
Speaker 1: more real and true than what's negative.

834
00:35:01,832 --> 00:35:03,152
Speaker 2: I think we fixed it. We really did.

835
00:35:03,172 --> 00:35:03,672
Speaker 1: We did a lot.

836
00:35:03,892 --> 00:35:06,012
Speaker 2: This is great. Let's, uh, let's go back and do

837
00:35:06,052 --> 00:35:16,122
Speaker 2: my segment. Johnny's old jokes. We call it joke about that. Uh, John,

838
00:35:16,142 --> 00:35:20,161
Speaker 2: I got a couple, um, street jokes that I found. Again,

839
00:35:20,202 --> 00:35:22,122
Speaker 2: I didn't write these. I don't know why I need

840
00:35:22,142 --> 00:35:22,762
Speaker 2: to preface this.

841
00:35:23,382 --> 00:35:24,582
Speaker 1: Please don't hold Johnny responsible.

842
00:35:25,502 --> 00:35:27,922
Speaker 2: These guys are, three guys are newbies in Metro Police

843
00:35:28,122 --> 00:35:31,212
Speaker 2: and they're passing their first test. Their commander in chief

844
00:35:31,232 --> 00:35:33,012
Speaker 2: shows a pic of a scumbag and says the following,

845
00:35:33,152 --> 00:35:34,792
Speaker 2: is there any feature in this guy's face if you

846
00:35:34,812 --> 00:35:38,712
Speaker 2: were looking for a criminal suspect? And then one says,

847
00:35:38,752 --> 00:35:43,902
Speaker 2: he's got just one eye. And stupid, it's a profile pic.

848
00:35:43,942 --> 00:35:46,122
Speaker 2: Can't you see that? He's got just one ear, said

849
00:35:46,162 --> 00:35:49,031
Speaker 2: the second guy. Are you kidding me? I told you, idiots.

850
00:35:49,592 --> 00:35:52,272
Speaker 2: That's a profile pic, left profile to be exact. He's

851
00:35:52,332 --> 00:35:55,252
Speaker 2: using contact lenses, sir, said the third guy. Brilliant. How

852
00:35:55,292 --> 00:35:57,152
Speaker 2: did you come to that conclusion with just a profile pic?

853
00:35:57,492 --> 00:35:59,112
Speaker 2: How the heck could he keep his glasses in place

854
00:35:59,132 --> 00:36:03,102
Speaker 2: with just one eye and one ear? Okay, that's stupid. John,

855
00:36:03,122 --> 00:36:05,042
Speaker 2: a rich playboy had so many girlfriends that he hadn't

856
00:36:05,082 --> 00:36:07,442
Speaker 2: enough time to entertain them all, so he made a

857
00:36:07,482 --> 00:36:10,181
Speaker 2: research lab, an offer they couldn't refuse, and got them

858
00:36:10,222 --> 00:36:14,562
Speaker 2: to clone him. This is very timely. Oh, wow. However,

859
00:36:14,582 --> 00:36:17,432
Speaker 2: the cloning technique hadn't been perfected, causing his double to

860
00:36:17,482 --> 00:36:25,672
Speaker 2: suffer from Tourette's syndrome. And the clone's foul language caused

861
00:36:25,712 --> 00:36:29,952
Speaker 2: the girlfriends to run away. Eventually, the playboy decided something

862
00:36:29,992 --> 00:36:31,512
Speaker 2: had to be done. So he took him to a

863
00:36:31,532 --> 00:36:33,912
Speaker 2: remote part of the Grand Canyon, pushed him over a cliff.

864
00:36:34,202 --> 00:36:36,542
Speaker 2: He thought he'd gotten away with it. But shortly after,

865
00:36:36,662 --> 00:36:40,261
Speaker 2: the police arrested him for making an obscene clone fall.

866
00:36:44,642 --> 00:36:47,182
Speaker 2: I did not expect, like, was that going to be

867
00:36:47,202 --> 00:36:48,342
Speaker 2: a wordplay or a pun? Yeah.

868
00:36:48,422 --> 00:36:49,512
Speaker 1: I don't know which one it is.

869
00:36:50,102 --> 00:36:53,352
Speaker 2: John finally, a dumb man, went ice fishing. He'd seen

870
00:36:53,392 --> 00:36:55,872
Speaker 2: many books on the subject. And finally, after getting all

871
00:36:55,892 --> 00:36:58,772
Speaker 2: the necessary tools together, he made for the nearest frozen lake.

872
00:36:59,372 --> 00:37:01,352
Speaker 2: After positioning his comfy stool, he started to make a

873
00:37:01,372 --> 00:37:03,602
Speaker 2: circular cut in the ice. Suddenly from the sky, a

874
00:37:03,642 --> 00:37:07,202
Speaker 2: voice boomed. There are no fish under the ice. The

875
00:37:07,242 --> 00:37:09,642
Speaker 2: dumb man, not quite worried, moved way down to the

876
00:37:09,682 --> 00:37:12,192
Speaker 2: opposite end of the ice. Swigged down another beer and

877
00:37:12,252 --> 00:37:14,632
Speaker 2: tried to cut his hole again. The voice came down

878
00:37:14,712 --> 00:37:17,932
Speaker 2: once more. There are no fish under the ice. He stopped,

879
00:37:17,972 --> 00:37:21,102
Speaker 2: looked skyward, and said, Is that you, Lord? The voice replied, No,

880
00:37:21,312 --> 00:37:25,962
Speaker 2: I'm the ice rink manager. John, let's do this week

881
00:37:25,982 --> 00:37:36,362
Speaker 2: in history. We call it Talk About Then. John, this week, 2012.

882
00:37:36,362 --> 00:37:38,342
Speaker 1: They gave me time to keep laughing.

883
00:37:38,602 --> 00:37:42,872
Speaker 2: This week, 2012. You were done. This week, 2012, I

884
00:37:42,912 --> 00:37:46,562
Speaker 2: didn't know about this, was called the John 3-16 game.

885
00:37:46,642 --> 00:37:48,342
Speaker 2: Do you know about this? Do you remember the Tim

886
00:37:48,382 --> 00:37:51,902
Speaker 2: Tebow game where they inexplicably beat the Pittsburgh Steelers? It

887
00:37:51,942 --> 00:37:54,502
Speaker 2: was the season Tim Tebow had all these fourth quarter comebacks.

888
00:37:54,862 --> 00:37:55,622
Speaker 1: In the playoffs, right?

889
00:37:55,642 --> 00:37:57,552
Speaker 2: In the playoffs. So he got them to a playoff game.

890
00:37:57,592 --> 00:38:00,472
Speaker 2: This Denver team was kind of hapless. Tebow willed them

891
00:38:00,532 --> 00:38:02,412
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. And then they beat the Steelers and

892
00:38:02,432 --> 00:38:04,471
Speaker 2: then got hammered by the Pats the next week. But

893
00:38:04,832 --> 00:38:06,972
Speaker 2: that game was known as the John 3-16 game. And

894
00:38:07,052 --> 00:38:09,322
Speaker 2: I did not know that that was a thing. But

895
00:38:09,522 --> 00:38:13,712
Speaker 2: the reason is, Because Heisman Trophy winner Tim Tebow was

896
00:38:13,752 --> 00:38:16,212
Speaker 2: quarterbacking for the Denver Broncos against the Pittsburgh Steelers during

897
00:38:16,252 --> 00:38:19,072
Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs. He had worn John 316 on his

898
00:38:19,172 --> 00:38:22,472
Speaker 2: eye paint in a college playoff game exactly three years earlier.

899
00:38:23,232 --> 00:38:28,352
Speaker 2: Tebow's passing yards were 316. Tebow's yards per completion, 31.6.

900
00:38:28,352 --> 00:38:32,192
Speaker 2: Yards per rush, 3.16. The only interception of the game

901
00:38:32,212 --> 00:38:35,592
Speaker 2: was against the Steelers on 3rd and 16. Steelers' time

902
00:38:35,612 --> 00:38:38,692
Speaker 2: of possession was 31 minutes, 6 seconds. The Nielsen ratings...

903
00:38:38,772 --> 00:38:43,092
Speaker 2: For the game peaked at 31.6. The Broncos lost their

904
00:38:43,112 --> 00:38:45,312
Speaker 2: previous three games by an average of 16 points.

905
00:38:45,632 --> 00:38:45,952
Speaker 1: I don't know.

906
00:38:45,992 --> 00:38:47,772
Speaker 2: That last one was a little bit. That's a stretch.

907
00:38:48,712 --> 00:38:51,292
Speaker 2: But that's a little bit weird. A couple of presidential ones, John.

908
00:38:51,452 --> 00:38:54,812
Speaker 2: This week, 1992, George Bush vomited on the prime minister.

909
00:38:54,832 --> 00:38:57,912
Speaker 2: Do you remember this? U.S. President George Bush vomits in

910
00:38:57,932 --> 00:39:01,322
Speaker 2: the lap of the Japanese prime minister and collapses to

911
00:39:01,342 --> 00:39:03,661
Speaker 2: the floor. Bush had ignored a physician's warning to stay

912
00:39:03,702 --> 00:39:05,302
Speaker 2: in bed. So I guess he was a summit kind

913
00:39:05,322 --> 00:39:07,522
Speaker 2: of a thing. And he's like, will through it. Make

914
00:39:07,562 --> 00:39:11,262
Speaker 2: yourself go. He had some bad clams and whammo, whatever.

915
00:39:11,662 --> 00:39:14,442
Speaker 2: That's a weird– Clammo. Clammo. That's a weird thing to

916
00:39:14,502 --> 00:39:17,122
Speaker 2: have happen at a– like maybe that's– I don't even

917
00:39:17,142 --> 00:39:19,082
Speaker 2: know what that means to the Japanese prime minister. You

918
00:39:19,162 --> 00:39:21,242
Speaker 2: could mean the whole thing, vomiting in the lap. That could–

919
00:39:21,332 --> 00:39:23,392
Speaker 2: you don't know. Maybe that's– Maybe it's a compliment?

920
00:39:23,432 --> 00:39:23,712
Speaker 1: Yeah.

921
00:39:23,932 --> 00:39:26,572
Speaker 2: I don't know. We don't know anything about Japanese culture,

922
00:39:26,592 --> 00:39:29,512
Speaker 2: and I apologize to our Japanese listeners. I think vomiting

923
00:39:29,552 --> 00:39:31,042
Speaker 2: in somebody's lap is bad no matter where you live.

924
00:39:31,062 --> 00:39:31,942
Speaker 1: I think it's bad universally.

925
00:39:32,022 --> 00:39:39,241
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. No, heaven's me. The prophecy has been fulfilled. John,

926
00:39:39,262 --> 00:39:47,192
Speaker 2: this week, 2007, a universal device was a landmark device

927
00:39:47,392 --> 00:39:50,451
Speaker 2: was unveiled. Do you remember this? The iPhone. The first

928
00:39:50,592 --> 00:39:52,852
Speaker 2: iPhone was unveiled to the public by Steve Jobs at

929
00:39:52,872 --> 00:39:55,462
Speaker 2: the Macworld Convention in San Francisco. It would go on

930
00:39:55,502 --> 00:39:57,482
Speaker 2: sale in June and retail for, do you want to

931
00:39:57,502 --> 00:39:59,312
Speaker 2: guess the retail, original retail price of $ 2, 007? Is that,

932
00:39:59,332 --> 00:40:00,152
Speaker 2: you're asking me.

933
00:40:00,152 --> 00:40:03,372
Speaker 1: If I want to guess that?

934
00:40:03,452 --> 00:40:05,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want you to guess the retail price of

935
00:40:05,752 --> 00:40:06,852
Speaker 2: the iPhone in 2007 in that.

936
00:40:07,922 --> 00:40:09,002
Speaker 1: You just said $ 2, 007. Oh, I was like, you just

937
00:40:09,022 --> 00:40:09,522
Speaker 1: told me 2007.

938
00:40:09,522 --> 00:40:11,122
Speaker 2: I want you to know it didn't cost $ 2, 007.

939
00:40:11,002 --> 00:40:11,822
Speaker 1: I think it was like a 700.

940
00:40:11,822 --> 00:40:12,642
Speaker 2: It was between four 99 and five 99.

941
00:40:12,622 --> 00:40:12,822
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.

942
00:40:12,842 --> 00:40:14,742
Speaker 2: Okay. But again, that's easily a thousand dollars now. Yeah. Um,

943
00:40:14,722 --> 00:40:30,022
Speaker 2: 2007 dollars and someone some might ask okay another presidential

944
00:40:30,102 --> 00:40:33,181
Speaker 2: one that is odd because that was bush senior that

945
00:40:33,222 --> 00:40:35,282
Speaker 2: threw up in the lap did you know that george

946
00:40:35,522 --> 00:40:39,942
Speaker 2: i did not know this story george w passed out

947
00:40:40,352 --> 00:40:43,392
Speaker 2: this week 2002 after choking on a pretzel while watching

948
00:40:43,432 --> 00:40:45,491
Speaker 2: a football game did you know this no they called

949
00:40:45,532 --> 00:40:50,312
Speaker 2: this story bush versus pretzel after fainting the president tumbled

950
00:40:50,332 --> 00:40:53,032
Speaker 2: to the floor From a couch, bruising his lower lip

951
00:40:53,072 --> 00:40:55,492
Speaker 2: and suffering an abrasion the size of a half dollar

952
00:40:55,532 --> 00:40:57,392
Speaker 2: on his left cheek. So I guess they had to

953
00:40:57,412 --> 00:40:58,431
Speaker 2: kind of.

954
00:40:58,452 --> 00:41:00,552
Speaker 1: How did they get the... I mean, you don't just

955
00:41:00,592 --> 00:41:02,991
Speaker 1: pass out, you die if they don't get the pretzel out.

956
00:41:03,012 --> 00:41:05,931
Speaker 2: Well, I guess they figured it out and they Heimliched him, maybe?

957
00:41:05,952 --> 00:41:07,052
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe.

958
00:41:07,072 --> 00:41:09,052
Speaker 1: Maybe the pretzel dissolved.

959
00:41:09,792 --> 00:41:11,892
Speaker 2: Are you saying George W. didn't make it and they

960
00:41:12,082 --> 00:41:13,542
Speaker 2: put in a weird dummy ringer?

961
00:41:13,562 --> 00:41:14,272
Speaker 1: He's a clone.

962
00:41:15,962 --> 00:41:21,762
Speaker 2: Anyway. John, the... This week, 1920, the New York Times

963
00:41:22,122 --> 00:41:27,362
Speaker 2: editorial mocked Robert Goddard stating that rockets will never fly

964
00:41:27,382 --> 00:41:30,322
Speaker 2: in space and saying that, quote, he only seems to

965
00:41:30,362 --> 00:41:33,942
Speaker 2: lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools. Goddard's

966
00:41:33,982 --> 00:41:36,741
Speaker 2: response was, every vision is a joke until the first

967
00:41:36,782 --> 00:41:41,382
Speaker 2: man accomplishes it once realized it becomes commonplace. They issued

968
00:41:41,402 --> 00:41:44,602
Speaker 2: an apology in 1969 after the Apollo 11 flight to

969
00:41:44,622 --> 00:41:48,532
Speaker 2: the moon. One might say they had to Apollo, John.

970
00:41:48,772 --> 00:41:53,952
Speaker 2: That's what it says in the book. Hey, unfortunately, Goddard

971
00:41:53,992 --> 00:41:54,892
Speaker 2: had died in 1945.

972
00:41:54,892 --> 00:41:56,672
Speaker 1: Okay, a little late for that.

973
00:41:56,692 --> 00:42:00,962
Speaker 2: Posthumous apology. Hey, sorry about saying you were an idiot.

974
00:42:00,982 --> 00:42:02,522
Speaker 2: Now that we landed on the moon.

975
00:42:02,642 --> 00:42:05,402
Speaker 1: Hope he didn't die bitter.

976
00:42:07,722 --> 00:42:09,342
Speaker 2: John, finally, I don't know if you knew this story,

977
00:42:09,362 --> 00:42:12,382
Speaker 2: because you're an American history guy. And you're kind of

978
00:42:12,422 --> 00:42:15,162
Speaker 2: a flag guy. Because of the whole Old Glory connection

979
00:42:15,662 --> 00:42:18,772
Speaker 2: with Captain William Driver. Listen to earlier episodes if you

980
00:42:18,792 --> 00:42:22,232
Speaker 2: want to know the history of that. They're boring. But

981
00:42:22,372 --> 00:42:28,582
Speaker 2: this week, 1794, two stars and stripes were added, making

982
00:42:28,582 --> 00:42:31,502
Speaker 2: 15 stars and stripes because of Kentucky and Vermont. Did

983
00:42:31,522 --> 00:42:34,242
Speaker 2: you know this? The practice of adding a stripe for

984
00:42:34,302 --> 00:42:37,982
Speaker 2: each new state entering the Union was eventually deemed impractical.

985
00:42:39,142 --> 00:42:42,552
Speaker 2: And the Flag Act of 1818 specified that a flag

986
00:42:42,572 --> 00:42:45,032
Speaker 2: of 13 stripes won for each original colony and 20

987
00:42:45,032 --> 00:42:47,602
Speaker 2: stars won for each state currently in the Union. With

988
00:42:47,662 --> 00:42:50,112
Speaker 2: new stars to be added as new states. So they

989
00:42:50,132 --> 00:42:52,232
Speaker 2: weren't just adding stars. They were adding a stripe per state.

990
00:42:52,252 --> 00:42:52,792
Speaker 1: I did not know that.

991
00:42:52,812 --> 00:42:54,532
Speaker 2: Then they thought, well, this is going to look like

992
00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:57,352
Speaker 2: a pinstripe suit if we just keep going. It's going

993
00:42:57,372 --> 00:42:57,692
Speaker 2: to be a weird.

994
00:42:57,812 --> 00:42:59,312
Speaker 1: You won't be able to tell what it is. Yeah.

995
00:42:59,792 --> 00:43:02,931
Speaker 2: Wow. So they started out with a different idea of like, well, look,

996
00:43:02,952 --> 00:43:05,512
Speaker 2: we added. And these states were like, hey, where's our stripe?

997
00:43:05,852 --> 00:43:06,212
Speaker 1: Yeah.

998
00:43:06,432 --> 00:43:08,382
Speaker 2: And they're like, look, you'll get a star. Calm down.

999
00:43:08,462 --> 00:43:10,161
Speaker 1: Right. But you're not going to get a stripe now.

1000
00:43:10,242 --> 00:43:13,902
Speaker 2: So the Flag Act of 1818. But this happened in

1001
00:43:13,902 --> 00:43:17,262
Speaker 2: 1794 that Kentucky and Vermont was like, we did it.

1002
00:43:17,642 --> 00:43:18,142
Speaker 2: were on the.

1003
00:43:18,262 --> 00:43:18,482
Speaker 1: Wow.

1004
00:43:18,722 --> 00:43:20,942
Speaker 2: And then they were promptly removed.

1005
00:43:21,402 --> 00:43:23,342
Speaker 1: Yeah, there should be some sort of retribution for that.

1006
00:43:23,582 --> 00:43:26,362
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Yeah. Kentucky, Vermont, if you think

1007
00:43:26,382 --> 00:43:27,701
Speaker 2: you're entitled to compensation.

1008
00:43:28,262 --> 00:43:31,701
Speaker 1: Call. Go to talkaboutthatpodcast.com.

1009
00:43:31,762 --> 00:43:34,822
Speaker 2: That's right, where you can find over 300 archived episodes.

1010
00:43:35,022 --> 00:43:37,522
Speaker 2: Almost none of them talk about Kentucky and Vermont, but

1011
00:43:37,542 --> 00:43:39,322
Speaker 2: we do love our listeners there, and thanks so much

1012
00:43:39,362 --> 00:43:41,642
Speaker 2: for being a part of the show. By the way,

1013
00:43:41,662 --> 00:43:43,902
Speaker 2: send us a message. We love hearing from our listeners.

1014
00:43:43,922 --> 00:43:46,682
Speaker 2: We've heard From several, you know, I've been seeing podcast

1015
00:43:46,702 --> 00:43:49,741
Speaker 2: listeners at shows, at comedy shows, John, in the real world.

1016
00:43:49,782 --> 00:43:51,212
Speaker 2: And some of them want to know why you're not

1017
00:43:51,272 --> 00:43:53,492
Speaker 2: at my shows. I think they think we hang out

1018
00:43:53,512 --> 00:43:57,392
Speaker 2: in real life like Pat Morita and Ralph Macchio from

1019
00:43:57,452 --> 00:44:00,132
Speaker 2: Karate Kid. They always said like, how's, how are the other?

1020
00:44:00,152 --> 00:44:02,552
Speaker 2: They thought that in real life. But John and I

1021
00:44:02,572 --> 00:44:05,372
Speaker 2: are bitter, bitter. Yeah, this is all, these are just characters.

1022
00:44:05,392 --> 00:44:07,052
Speaker 2: This is a professional relationship.

1023
00:44:07,092 --> 00:44:07,312
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1024
00:44:07,972 --> 00:44:11,682
Speaker 2: That makes us almost no money. And yet we sustain it.

1025
00:44:11,712 --> 00:44:12,452
Speaker 2: We maintain it.

1026
00:44:13,702 --> 00:44:16,312
Speaker 1: I think almost is a stretch. I think it loses

1027
00:44:16,392 --> 00:44:16,681
Speaker 1: us money.

1028
00:44:16,712 --> 00:44:19,752
Speaker 2: No, come on. We love it. But listen to this, John.

1029
00:44:20,992 --> 00:44:22,652
Speaker 2: People come to me and they say, where's John? Or

1030
00:44:22,672 --> 00:44:26,972
Speaker 2: they say like, oh, they've read your books. They're very excited.

1031
00:44:26,992 --> 00:44:27,752
Speaker 1: No, they have not.

1032
00:44:27,792 --> 00:44:31,222
Speaker 2: They have. Okay. They bought them in the discount bin

1033
00:44:31,642 --> 00:44:32,822
Speaker 2: of their local McKay's.

1034
00:44:33,762 --> 00:44:34,342
Speaker 1: Whatever works.

1035
00:44:34,362 --> 00:44:37,562
Speaker 2: That's just as good. No, you got nothing from that purchase.

1036
00:44:37,602 --> 00:44:40,572
Speaker 2: But no, people are excited. And it's cool to see

1037
00:44:40,612 --> 00:44:43,212
Speaker 2: people that That's the thing about online stuff. Like we

1038
00:44:43,272 --> 00:44:46,012
Speaker 2: rail against it in some ways, but the only thing

1039
00:44:46,072 --> 00:44:49,352
Speaker 2: I like about online is when it connects to the

1040
00:44:49,392 --> 00:44:49,972
Speaker 2: real world.

1041
00:44:50,332 --> 00:44:50,492
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1042
00:44:50,832 --> 00:44:52,372
Speaker 2: Like if you have an online experience that you wouldn't

1043
00:44:52,392 --> 00:44:54,832
Speaker 2: have otherwise had, like I never would have met person

1044
00:44:55,052 --> 00:44:58,852
Speaker 2: X in the 1950s, but I've established a relationship. They

1045
00:44:58,892 --> 00:45:01,092
Speaker 2: saw a clip and then they followed up. And now

1046
00:45:01,652 --> 00:45:03,852
Speaker 2: in real life, they come to a show and they

1047
00:45:03,872 --> 00:45:07,161
Speaker 2: brought their family or whatever. Now it's like, Oh, I

1048
00:45:07,222 --> 00:45:08,842
Speaker 2: get why this is better. And that's why I don't

1049
00:45:08,882 --> 00:45:11,042
Speaker 2: like that whole, we talked about looking back and imagining

1050
00:45:11,242 --> 00:45:13,942
Speaker 2: only the bad things about the world's going, it's on fire.

1051
00:45:14,942 --> 00:45:17,092
Speaker 2: There's so much good, but I like when you see

1052
00:45:17,112 --> 00:45:21,012
Speaker 2: those moments of technology turning into a living, breathing interaction.

1053
00:45:21,132 --> 00:45:22,072
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1054
00:45:22,212 --> 00:45:25,172
Speaker 2: That's what does it for me. When it just stays digital,

1055
00:45:25,352 --> 00:45:27,951
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily love it as much. Because it feels

1056
00:45:27,992 --> 00:45:30,602
Speaker 2: like people can hide behind their keyboard and say mean things. Mm-hmm.

1057
00:45:31,172 --> 00:45:32,712
Speaker 2: I only like when they hide behind my keyboard and

1058
00:45:32,752 --> 00:45:34,052
Speaker 2: say nice things.

1059
00:45:34,072 --> 00:45:34,451
Speaker 1: That's right.

1060
00:45:34,472 --> 00:45:36,552
Speaker 2: Because those people know what's up. They get it. Yeah.

1061
00:45:36,572 --> 00:45:38,622
Speaker 1: Yes. They're the right kind of people.

1062
00:45:38,642 --> 00:45:39,802
Speaker 2: The other people are just trolls.

1063
00:45:39,942 --> 00:45:42,262
Speaker 1: And speaking of, you should go to our podcast, wherever

1064
00:45:42,302 --> 00:45:44,242
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts, and leave a review. Oh, yeah.

1065
00:45:44,262 --> 00:45:47,382
Speaker 2: That's right. That's how people find the show. Go to johnnyw.com.

1066
00:45:47,422 --> 00:45:49,962
Speaker 2: You can find new tour dates. They're going up every day.

1067
00:45:49,982 --> 00:45:54,661
Speaker 2: We're adding cities. And 2025 is already looking great. And

1068
00:45:54,682 --> 00:45:56,962
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you out there all across

1069
00:45:57,002 --> 00:45:57,802
Speaker 2: the fruited plain.

1070
00:45:58,282 --> 00:46:00,832
Speaker 1: It's going to be great, guys. Hey, stay warm out there.

1071
00:46:01,172 --> 00:46:03,012
Speaker 1: We know it's cold and we wish you a happy

1072
00:46:03,052 --> 00:46:06,502
Speaker 1: new year. And we look forward to doing this all year.

1073
00:46:06,522 --> 00:46:08,672
Speaker 1: And we'll start again next week here on Talk About Family.