1 00:00:02,710 --> 00:00:07,210 Speaker 1: Life Audio. What if the waiting was so much better 2 00:00:07,470 --> 00:00:09,490 Speaker 1: than what you expected it to be? What if it 3 00:00:09,550 --> 00:00:12,459 Speaker 1: wasn't just a delay? What if it just wasn't this 4 00:00:12,539 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: thing that we had to dread? What if God could 5 00:00:15,100 --> 00:00:18,579 Speaker 1: actually use it to unveil to you something you didn't 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,259 Speaker 1: know was part of your divine purpose? We're going to 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:27,620 Speaker 1: talk about that and more in today's episode. Hello, hello, hello, 8 00:00:27,700 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: ladies and gents, and welcome to this week's episode of 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: the bottom beloved podcast. As always, it's your girl Kirby 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: Kelly back at it again. And I'm really stoked for 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,870 Speaker 1: this week because you guys know that every now and again, 12 00:00:37,909 --> 00:00:40,129 Speaker 1: I'll have people come on. I'll have guests come on 13 00:00:40,150 --> 00:00:42,990 Speaker 1: and they'll talk about their books or their expertise or 14 00:00:43,030 --> 00:00:45,909 Speaker 1: their awesome testimonies or things that they just are really 15 00:00:45,970 --> 00:00:47,930 Speaker 1: passionate about or I'm passionate about. And I want to 16 00:00:47,950 --> 00:00:51,550 Speaker 1: have a conversation on and it's even better when that 17 00:00:51,610 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: person is a friend. And I have my friend Casey 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,690 Speaker 1: Nicole Harlow joining me. She's awesome. Like she's a YouTuber. 19 00:00:59,930 --> 00:01:03,310 Speaker 1: She's now an author. She's a mama. Like she's just 20 00:01:03,350 --> 00:01:06,170 Speaker 1: got so much stuff going for her. And we go way, 21 00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:11,370 Speaker 1: way back, like pre-pandemic days, which is crazy to think about. 22 00:01:12,209 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: But she just wrote a book. It comes out today. 23 00:01:15,030 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: If you're listening the day that this episode drops, it 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: comes out today. So you can literally just scroll down 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: to the description notes and you can get her book. 26 00:01:22,290 --> 00:01:25,950 Speaker 1: It's called So Much Better, Daring to Trust God When 27 00:01:25,970 --> 00:01:31,410 Speaker 1: You're Waiting, Impatient, and Expectant. And I really like that subtitle. 28 00:01:32,050 --> 00:01:35,530 Speaker 1: But before we dive into that, Casey, welcome to the podcast. 29 00:01:35,550 --> 00:01:37,910 Speaker 1: Can you just introduce yourself to people who don't know 30 00:01:37,970 --> 00:01:40,210 Speaker 1: you and just let them know a little bit about 31 00:01:40,250 --> 00:01:41,449 Speaker 1: you and what you're passionate about? 32 00:01:42,209 --> 00:01:44,150 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. First of all, I just got to say, 33 00:01:44,190 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: like you said, Kirby, we go way back and just 34 00:01:46,830 --> 00:01:49,620 Speaker 2: have to say that your content, you, your friendship is 35 00:01:49,660 --> 00:01:52,170 Speaker 2: such a blessing and your ministry is such a blessing 36 00:01:52,210 --> 00:01:53,570 Speaker 2: to so many. And so I'm just grateful to be 37 00:01:53,630 --> 00:01:56,290 Speaker 2: on the podcast. Thanks for having me on and excited 38 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:59,330 Speaker 2: to have this conversation. Yeah. So a little bit about me, 39 00:01:59,370 --> 00:02:01,950 Speaker 2: like you said, my name is Casey and, um, something 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm really passionate about is just encouraging people with the 41 00:02:05,620 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: truth of God's word. And that's really what kind of 42 00:02:08,660 --> 00:02:10,860 Speaker 2: began all of the content I do. What led me 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,580 Speaker 2: to start my blog for the first time over 10 44 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:16,470 Speaker 2: years ago. Now it really just came from a season 45 00:02:16,490 --> 00:02:18,829 Speaker 2: where I was going through learning so much in my 46 00:02:18,850 --> 00:02:21,540 Speaker 2: walk with God and It was a really transformational time 47 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,140 Speaker 2: where he was just revealing his heart to me and 48 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,020 Speaker 2: I was learning so much. And from that came this 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: natural desire to share with other people, to encourage other people. 50 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,420 Speaker 2: And so I started the blog 10 years ago and 51 00:02:31,460 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: then that eventually led to YouTube and everything that I 52 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,470 Speaker 2: do now. And the heart of that continues to be 53 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: something I say on my YouTube channel all the time 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,030 Speaker 2: is encouraging you to know God more through his word 55 00:02:41,430 --> 00:02:43,810 Speaker 2: and to grow in his likeness. And I'm so passionate 56 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:46,310 Speaker 2: about that because I grew up in a Christian home 57 00:02:46,410 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: knowing all the Jesus right Sunday school answers. But for me, 58 00:02:49,740 --> 00:02:52,300 Speaker 2: it wasn't until I went through difficult seasons with the 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,260 Speaker 2: Lord and really learned the Bible and started to read 60 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,410 Speaker 2: the Bible consistently on my own that everything changed for me. 61 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,570 Speaker 2: And so I'm so passionate about encouraging women to know 62 00:03:02,830 --> 00:03:05,690 Speaker 2: God more through his word because the Bible is God's 63 00:03:05,730 --> 00:03:08,089 Speaker 2: revelation of himself to us. It's how we know him. 64 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:10,910 Speaker 2: And as we behold who he is in his word, 65 00:03:11,430 --> 00:03:13,790 Speaker 2: he uses that to help us become more like him. 66 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:16,390 Speaker 2: He changes us into his image. And so That is 67 00:03:16,450 --> 00:03:18,990 Speaker 2: a little bit about what I do, what I'm passionate about. 68 00:03:19,070 --> 00:03:22,130 Speaker 2: And then like you said, I am a wife. My 69 00:03:22,210 --> 00:03:24,450 Speaker 2: husband Tyler and I are going to celebrate five years 70 00:03:24,510 --> 00:03:28,190 Speaker 2: of marriage this November. And a mama. We've got a 71 00:03:28,430 --> 00:03:30,930 Speaker 2: three and a half year old boy, an almost two 72 00:03:30,950 --> 00:03:33,429 Speaker 2: year old girl, and then another baby girl on the way. 73 00:03:33,530 --> 00:03:37,290 Speaker 2: And so just all the fun things. But as I 74 00:03:37,310 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: kind of share in my book and my story that 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: there were so many years in my story where These 76 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,780 Speaker 2: roles that I'm living in now and love of getting 77 00:03:44,820 --> 00:03:46,940 Speaker 2: to be a wife, getting to be a mom, they 78 00:03:46,990 --> 00:03:49,250 Speaker 2: were things that I always deeply desired but just didn't 79 00:03:49,310 --> 00:03:50,810 Speaker 2: know if that was going to be a part of 80 00:03:50,850 --> 00:03:54,810 Speaker 2: my story. And I always really deeply desired to be married, 81 00:03:54,830 --> 00:03:56,510 Speaker 2: to be a mom, and I had a plan for 82 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:59,590 Speaker 2: those things. I was going to be married young, right 83 00:03:59,630 --> 00:04:02,350 Speaker 2: out of college, graduate with that MRS degree, that ring 84 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,020 Speaker 2: on my finger. That's real. 85 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Right. 86 00:04:04,620 --> 00:04:07,940 Speaker 2: Right. And as God often does, his plans were different 87 00:04:07,980 --> 00:04:10,380 Speaker 2: than my own. And so instead of getting married when 88 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,410 Speaker 2: I had in mind the timeline that I had in mind, 89 00:04:12,910 --> 00:04:15,830 Speaker 2: I spent most of my twenties longing for those things 90 00:04:16,470 --> 00:04:18,570 Speaker 2: and watching so many of my best friends around me 91 00:04:18,610 --> 00:04:22,330 Speaker 2: move forward into those roles and, you know, get married, 92 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:25,460 Speaker 2: have baby one, number one, number two, number three, and 93 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: all the while feeling like there wasn't much changing in 94 00:04:27,540 --> 00:04:30,300 Speaker 2: my life. And so that is really the place that 95 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,930 Speaker 2: So Much Better started to form and develop was in 96 00:04:32,970 --> 00:04:35,510 Speaker 2: that space of waiting of, God, do you see this desire? 97 00:04:36,029 --> 00:04:38,950 Speaker 2: Do you care? Why are you not moving in this 98 00:04:39,029 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: area of my life? And I think that no matter 99 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:45,620 Speaker 2: whether that is your story of waiting, we all have 100 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: a story of waiting. We've all gone through waiting seasons. 101 00:04:48,740 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: All of life is a waiting season. And so this 102 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: book was really written for that girl who is in 103 00:04:53,779 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: the thick of that waiting season, wondering if God sees 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,740 Speaker 2: her and just wrestling with all the questions that tend 105 00:04:58,779 --> 00:05:00,890 Speaker 2: to come up when we're waiting on God much longer 106 00:05:00,930 --> 00:05:01,650 Speaker 2: than we ever imagined. 107 00:05:02,529 --> 00:05:05,310 Speaker 1: Absolutely. And many of us can be waiting for all 108 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:08,510 Speaker 1: sorts of different things. Like for you, you said it was, 109 00:05:08,570 --> 00:05:13,050 Speaker 1: you know, I'm wanting that MRS degree. I'm For me, 110 00:05:13,130 --> 00:05:15,070 Speaker 1: I was kind of the exact opposite. I was like, 111 00:05:15,170 --> 00:05:20,750 Speaker 1: I'm waiting on the big opportunities, the dreams, the career aspirations. 112 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:23,110 Speaker 1: Like that's kind of where I landed when I was 113 00:05:23,210 --> 00:05:25,710 Speaker 1: in the season that you're talking about, like in my 114 00:05:25,730 --> 00:05:27,729 Speaker 1: 20s in college. And so I know that there are 115 00:05:27,750 --> 00:05:29,450 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are listening today where it's 116 00:05:29,470 --> 00:05:32,690 Speaker 1: like when they think of waiting, maybe they think marriage 117 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:35,770 Speaker 1: or maybe they're thinking dreams and aspirations. Maybe they're thinking, 118 00:05:36,029 --> 00:05:39,570 Speaker 1: you know, an answer from God on a very specific prayer. 119 00:05:39,910 --> 00:05:42,830 Speaker 1: Like there are all kinds of different things that we 120 00:05:43,029 --> 00:05:47,370 Speaker 1: might be waiting on. And so wherever you are, listener, 121 00:05:47,510 --> 00:05:50,110 Speaker 1: wherever you are in life, there might be something that 122 00:05:50,130 --> 00:05:52,310 Speaker 1: you are waiting on or have been waiting for. Or 123 00:05:52,370 --> 00:05:55,430 Speaker 1: maybe eventually God is giving you a dream or a 124 00:05:55,470 --> 00:05:59,710 Speaker 1: promise today. And it's like, okay, I'm expecting that to be, 125 00:06:00,210 --> 00:06:03,030 Speaker 1: you know, coming to fruition tomorrow because he gave me 126 00:06:03,070 --> 00:06:07,210 Speaker 1: this dream today. But sometimes he does take us through waiting. 127 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,150 Speaker 1: And it's sometimes in that waiting period where it's like, um, hello, God, 128 00:06:12,370 --> 00:06:15,070 Speaker 1: you gave me this dream or you put this desire 129 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:18,350 Speaker 1: within me and you're not answering. You're not coming through. You're, 130 00:06:18,630 --> 00:06:22,170 Speaker 1: you're not doing it on my timeline or within my expectations. 131 00:06:22,710 --> 00:06:25,470 Speaker 1: I want to know how do people, or how did 132 00:06:25,529 --> 00:06:30,630 Speaker 1: you even navigate that? Because even in reading scripture, there 133 00:06:30,670 --> 00:06:34,340 Speaker 1: were times where God called and appointed and gave vision 134 00:06:34,420 --> 00:06:38,090 Speaker 1: to and gave dreams to certain people. but that didn't 135 00:06:38,110 --> 00:06:41,130 Speaker 1: come into fruition for a while. So I just want 136 00:06:41,150 --> 00:06:43,710 Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on that and maybe your encouragement 137 00:06:43,790 --> 00:06:44,910 Speaker 1: and experience in that. 138 00:06:45,210 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: For sure. First of all, I'm so glad you said that, 139 00:06:47,020 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: that the weight can look different for all of us. 140 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:51,780 Speaker 2: Like it's different things that we're waiting for, but it's 141 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: also just when things don't necessarily go how we expected 142 00:06:54,740 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: them to go. One of my best friends, she's kind 143 00:06:57,140 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: of similar to you is waiting for the opportunity. She didn't, 144 00:06:59,820 --> 00:07:01,670 Speaker 2: wasn't really thinking about, okay, I want to get graduated. 145 00:07:01,690 --> 00:07:04,289 Speaker 2: I want to be graduated, get married, have kids. And 146 00:07:04,310 --> 00:07:06,029 Speaker 2: then that ended up being her story. Like right out 147 00:07:06,050 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: of college, she met her husband and, And for me, 148 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: it was like, I never really dreamed about the opportunity necessarily. 149 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: And instead God led me into this journey of really 150 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: just showing me some of the purposes he had for 151 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: me of even all the things I'm doing today would 152 00:07:17,810 --> 00:07:20,510 Speaker 2: have never really happened. I don't think for me, if 153 00:07:20,590 --> 00:07:22,250 Speaker 2: things had gone the way that I wanted them to. 154 00:07:22,370 --> 00:07:25,090 Speaker 2: And so it is just this wrestling with waiting and 155 00:07:25,150 --> 00:07:27,730 Speaker 2: also with, this is not what I expected, what I 156 00:07:27,770 --> 00:07:31,670 Speaker 2: had planned. And, um, and just coming to that realization 157 00:07:31,690 --> 00:07:34,130 Speaker 2: of God's plans being different than our own. But Yeah, 158 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:36,810 Speaker 2: there's so many times throughout scripture that we see God 159 00:07:36,890 --> 00:07:39,940 Speaker 2: give somebody a promise. And, you know, I think in 160 00:07:39,980 --> 00:07:42,180 Speaker 2: our own lives, when God speaks something over us, it's 161 00:07:42,220 --> 00:07:45,260 Speaker 2: really easy to think like God spoke this thing. So 162 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,220 Speaker 2: that must mean it's going to happen soon. Right. But 163 00:07:47,260 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: one of the things that as I was going through 164 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,980 Speaker 2: my own waiting story is realizing that oftentimes what we 165 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: see in scripture and what I've experienced in my own 166 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,900 Speaker 2: life is when God gives a promise. it's usually not 167 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: because that thing is going to happen tomorrow, right? Because 168 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,420 Speaker 2: if the thing was going to happen tomorrow, why would 169 00:08:03,460 --> 00:08:05,420 Speaker 2: God need to tell you today? Like tomorrow would come, 170 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,380 Speaker 2: whatever the vision or the promise was would unfold. But 171 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,450 Speaker 2: I think that oftentimes what we see in scripture is 172 00:08:11,490 --> 00:08:15,170 Speaker 2: that God actually gives that vision or that promise because 173 00:08:15,210 --> 00:08:17,770 Speaker 2: he knows that that person is about to enter into 174 00:08:17,790 --> 00:08:21,910 Speaker 2: a stretch of darkness where the promise God has spoken 175 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:26,100 Speaker 2: looks so unfeasible, so impossible, and there's absolutely no way 176 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,580 Speaker 2: in our human perspective that it could happen. And by 177 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: giving the promise and the vision ahead of time, God 178 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:35,179 Speaker 2: is actually giving us an opportunity to hold on to 179 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,900 Speaker 2: what he's spoken, even though our circumstances don't at all 180 00:08:38,970 --> 00:08:41,910 Speaker 2: look like what he's spoken could come to pass. Like 181 00:08:41,929 --> 00:08:43,969 Speaker 2: I think of Joseph, he's told that he's going to 182 00:08:44,010 --> 00:08:47,750 Speaker 2: be this leader, this ruler. And, you know, I imagine 183 00:08:47,790 --> 00:08:49,650 Speaker 2: like in the human flesh, he's like, wow, this is 184 00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:51,270 Speaker 2: so cool. Like my brothers are going to be bowing 185 00:08:51,309 --> 00:08:53,470 Speaker 2: down to me. And then the next thing he knows, 186 00:08:53,510 --> 00:08:56,739 Speaker 2: he's getting sold into slavery, thrown into the pit, He 187 00:08:56,820 --> 00:08:59,660 Speaker 2: is falsely accused of something he didn't do, thrown into prison. 188 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,290 Speaker 2: And if he looks around at his circumstances, it probably 189 00:09:02,330 --> 00:09:03,990 Speaker 2: looks like, okay, God said I was going to be 190 00:09:04,030 --> 00:09:06,530 Speaker 2: a leader, but I am in prison right now and 191 00:09:06,550 --> 00:09:08,829 Speaker 2: I've been falsely accused and I'm going through all of 192 00:09:08,850 --> 00:09:12,670 Speaker 2: these horrible things. But yet in having that dream ahead 193 00:09:12,710 --> 00:09:15,610 Speaker 2: of time, Joseph was able to hold on to that promise. 194 00:09:16,110 --> 00:09:17,469 Speaker 2: And I think that so often that's one of the 195 00:09:17,510 --> 00:09:19,470 Speaker 2: things that God is wanting to do in our waiting 196 00:09:19,530 --> 00:09:22,970 Speaker 2: seasons is teaching us to trust him, trust his hand, 197 00:09:22,990 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: trust his heart, trust his character and And the promises 198 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:30,500 Speaker 2: that he's spoken to us in scripture and relying on 199 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,229 Speaker 2: those things more than we can rely on the things 200 00:09:33,250 --> 00:09:35,790 Speaker 2: that we can see. Because if we're basing, you know, 201 00:09:35,809 --> 00:09:39,530 Speaker 2: the probability of things happening or whatever, based off of 202 00:09:39,570 --> 00:09:42,070 Speaker 2: what we can see, we're going to get discouraged. But 203 00:09:42,270 --> 00:09:45,540 Speaker 2: if we focus our sights on his character, that's ultimately 204 00:09:45,580 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 2: what he's inviting us to is to know him more 205 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,820 Speaker 2: through it and to have certainty in who he says 206 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: he is. 207 00:09:50,179 --> 00:09:54,740 Speaker 1: That's so good. And it's often in those seasons, like 208 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,270 Speaker 1: you said, of waiting or darkness or stretching or preparing 209 00:09:58,710 --> 00:10:00,980 Speaker 1: that God will use that. as a period of time 210 00:10:01,050 --> 00:10:04,059 Speaker 1: to strip away and peel back the layers of fear 211 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,660 Speaker 1: or sin or self-reliance. And I love that you talk 212 00:10:07,700 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: about that within the book. And so what did that 213 00:10:12,860 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: look like for you in your season of waiting? What 214 00:10:17,020 --> 00:10:20,350 Speaker 1: did God strip away that made room for you? for the, 215 00:10:20,510 --> 00:10:23,610 Speaker 1: for the necessary things, because it can feel like that 216 00:10:23,690 --> 00:10:26,650 Speaker 1: in waiting where it's like, it feels mundane, but there's 217 00:10:26,809 --> 00:10:30,610 Speaker 1: actually so much that can, that can take place within 218 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:33,350 Speaker 1: our own growth and development to become who God has 219 00:10:33,390 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: called us to be and to be prepared for what 220 00:10:35,410 --> 00:10:37,260 Speaker 1: he actually has called us to do. 221 00:10:37,660 --> 00:10:39,300 Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah. I think that's one of the huge 222 00:10:39,340 --> 00:10:40,830 Speaker 2: things that God does in the waiting. First of all, 223 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: I just, I want to say too, I think we 224 00:10:42,620 --> 00:10:44,900 Speaker 2: hear the phrase so much that God is working in 225 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,830 Speaker 2: your waiting and And when you first hear that it's, 226 00:10:47,050 --> 00:10:49,570 Speaker 2: it's so encouraging, but there's also this element of like, wait, 227 00:10:49,630 --> 00:10:52,390 Speaker 2: but how, like, how is he working? And so that's 228 00:10:52,410 --> 00:10:53,770 Speaker 2: one of the things I really did try to unpack 229 00:10:53,809 --> 00:10:55,550 Speaker 2: in the book. And then we also have, I have 230 00:10:55,610 --> 00:10:58,780 Speaker 2: a companion Bible study to the book and I specifically 231 00:10:58,860 --> 00:11:01,820 Speaker 2: unpack in each week of the study, one way that 232 00:11:01,860 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: God works in the waiting. And one of the things 233 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:06,579 Speaker 2: I talk about is healing. And that can either be from, 234 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: you know, past sin that we've never confessed or for 235 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,179 Speaker 2: things that have been done to us and, or just 236 00:11:12,220 --> 00:11:15,910 Speaker 2: some area that we're living in shame and, um, even 237 00:11:15,950 --> 00:11:18,850 Speaker 2: just heart motivations or alignments that are not, you know, 238 00:11:19,230 --> 00:11:21,630 Speaker 2: where they're supposed to be, our identity rooted in things 239 00:11:21,650 --> 00:11:23,850 Speaker 2: that they're not supposed to be, that God is exposing 240 00:11:24,410 --> 00:11:27,100 Speaker 2: for the purpose of healing us. And I do just 241 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,650 Speaker 2: want to say too that that's, you know, not to 242 00:11:28,670 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: say that if you are waiting for something that it's 243 00:11:30,580 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: because of something you did or didn't do or whatever, 244 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,220 Speaker 2: like God has a good purpose in his timing for everything, 245 00:11:36,340 --> 00:11:38,460 Speaker 2: every event that unfolds in each of our lives that 246 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,420 Speaker 2: is honestly so much bigger than even we are. But 247 00:11:41,580 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: in the waiting, he's not going to waste it. He's 248 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: going to use it to bring those things to the surface. 249 00:11:45,929 --> 00:11:48,870 Speaker 2: Because ultimately he desires our freedom. He desires our healing 250 00:11:49,929 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: and to be able to walk in just the fullness 251 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: of who he created us to be. And the analogy 252 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: that I always like to think of, because I think 253 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,220 Speaker 2: the word exposing. 254 00:11:57,580 --> 00:11:58,220 Speaker 1: Is really scary. 255 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,460 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't want to be exposed. Like that 256 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:00,699 Speaker 2: can just stay in the dark. We don't need to 257 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,620 Speaker 2: talk about that. That's in the, in the room for, 258 00:12:03,059 --> 00:12:06,780 Speaker 2: in the dark room for a reason. And scripture in 259 00:12:06,820 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: first John talks about how God is light and in 260 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,250 Speaker 2: him is no darkness. But when we think about how 261 00:12:11,290 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: God is light, he's not this spotlight that's like cast 262 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,780 Speaker 2: on us on a stage to shame us and to 263 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: embarrass us and to call us out. He is a 264 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: searchlight that is seeking out the deepest corners of our 265 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: hearts and our lives because he doesn't want us to 266 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,420 Speaker 2: live in shame. He doesn't want us to live in fear. 267 00:12:25,460 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: He wants to call us to himself. And so there's 268 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:33,710 Speaker 2: so many stories of, oops, sorry, my earbud fell out. 269 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:38,190 Speaker 2: Just keep going. There's so many stories I could share 270 00:12:38,230 --> 00:12:40,410 Speaker 2: from my own life of how God used that waiting 271 00:12:40,929 --> 00:12:43,450 Speaker 2: season to unearth things in me, whether that was sin 272 00:12:43,470 --> 00:12:47,390 Speaker 2: that I had never talked to people about before, just identity. 273 00:12:47,429 --> 00:12:49,429 Speaker 2: I think one of the things God showed me is, 274 00:12:49,630 --> 00:12:52,630 Speaker 2: you know, placing my identity in what it would be 275 00:12:52,670 --> 00:12:53,980 Speaker 2: like to be a wife, what it would be like 276 00:12:54,020 --> 00:12:56,700 Speaker 2: to be a mom and showing me, which, you know, 277 00:12:56,740 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: those are such beautiful purposes, which, like I said, I'm 278 00:12:59,020 --> 00:13:01,700 Speaker 2: so thankful to live in those today. But I think 279 00:13:01,820 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: that if God had brought me into those purposes before 280 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,660 Speaker 2: showing me that my identity wasn't in those things, I 281 00:13:07,700 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: think I would have had a very different experience of 282 00:13:10,179 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 2: both marriage and motherhood than I'm having today. And God 283 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: instead invited me into intimacy with him, which I think 284 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: is one of the biggest things he does in waiting 285 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,580 Speaker 2: seasons as well, is showing me more of his heart, 286 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,410 Speaker 2: drawing me deeper into relationship with him, and just taking 287 00:13:24,530 --> 00:13:26,370 Speaker 2: truths that I knew about him my whole life but 288 00:13:26,410 --> 00:13:29,470 Speaker 2: making them real to me. And from that intimacy with 289 00:13:29,510 --> 00:13:32,110 Speaker 2: the Lord and knowing who he is came this overflow 290 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:34,770 Speaker 2: of identity and showing me who I was in him. 291 00:13:35,010 --> 00:13:36,650 Speaker 2: And so there's just, there's so many ways that he 292 00:13:36,690 --> 00:13:37,370 Speaker 2: works in that. 293 00:13:37,390 --> 00:13:41,510 Speaker 1: I love that. And one of those things that, you know, 294 00:13:41,550 --> 00:13:43,910 Speaker 1: talking just like about his character and who he is, 295 00:13:43,970 --> 00:13:48,290 Speaker 1: I think one of the cornerstone truths that we identify 296 00:13:48,390 --> 00:13:52,730 Speaker 1: with God's character is goodness. Like he is good. You know, 297 00:13:52,770 --> 00:13:54,550 Speaker 1: God is good all the time and all the time 298 00:13:54,610 --> 00:13:58,110 Speaker 1: he is good. Like that is something that within Christians, it's, 299 00:13:58,530 --> 00:14:01,670 Speaker 1: it is so second nature to even just say that, 300 00:14:01,790 --> 00:14:06,090 Speaker 1: but to actually go through experiences of waiting, that kind 301 00:14:06,130 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: of test our belief in the goodness of God. That's 302 00:14:10,390 --> 00:14:12,780 Speaker 1: a whole other thing to like actually go through a 303 00:14:12,820 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: situation where it's like, okay, well, do I actually believe 304 00:14:15,980 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: you're good when my circumstances aren't lining up when the 305 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:22,850 Speaker 1: timeline is isn't lining up with, with what I thought 306 00:14:22,930 --> 00:14:25,850 Speaker 1: it would look like. Um, I would love to just hear, 307 00:14:26,050 --> 00:14:30,460 Speaker 1: you know, from your own experience, did you ever question 308 00:14:30,580 --> 00:14:33,580 Speaker 1: God in the sense of like, okay, God, are you 309 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: withholding something good from me? Cause if you're good, why 310 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,260 Speaker 1: are you withholding? Like there's this confusion, I think for 311 00:14:41,300 --> 00:14:46,010 Speaker 1: some people between waiting and withholding, And so I don't know, 312 00:14:46,070 --> 00:14:49,170 Speaker 1: I would love if you have any way to unpack 313 00:14:49,210 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: that or to encourage people who might have this view 314 00:14:52,180 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: of God where it's like, I'm actually questioning his goodness 315 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,740 Speaker 1: because if he was good, wouldn't he give me this 316 00:14:56,780 --> 00:14:58,500 Speaker 1: good thing? Right, absolutely. 317 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,340 Speaker 2: There were countless times that I asked those questions and 318 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: wrestled with that. And I also just want to speak 319 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,610 Speaker 2: encouragement to that, that it is, no pun intended, but 320 00:15:08,630 --> 00:15:10,810 Speaker 2: it is so much better for you to bring that 321 00:15:10,850 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: to God than to pretend like those feelings aren't there 322 00:15:14,620 --> 00:15:17,830 Speaker 2: because they're not supposed to be there. That's not, you know, 323 00:15:18,190 --> 00:15:20,990 Speaker 2: you want to be a good, strong Christian with strong faith. 324 00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:24,290 Speaker 2: Like the Psalms are full of David pouring his heart 325 00:15:24,330 --> 00:15:29,620 Speaker 2: out before God and lamenting or asking, not understanding, wrestling 326 00:15:29,630 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: with God honestly. And just think about, you know, the 327 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: relationships with the people in your life who you're closest to. 328 00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: They're not, sorry, one second. Is it better to There's 329 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: a big truck going by. I should have asked you 330 00:15:42,820 --> 00:15:44,900 Speaker 2: if it was better to, okay, this can all be edited. 331 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,100 Speaker 1: You're good. You're good. Yeah. I'm, I'm, if you see 332 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: me jot down, I'm just jotting down the time so 333 00:15:49,620 --> 00:15:49,980 Speaker 1: I can edit. 334 00:15:50,060 --> 00:15:53,330 Speaker 2: Okay. I'm so sorry. Should I wait for it to pass? Nope. 335 00:15:53,570 --> 00:15:54,550 Speaker 1: You were good. Okay. 336 00:15:54,570 --> 00:15:57,109 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what I was saying. If I 337 00:15:57,130 --> 00:15:58,510 Speaker 2: start with finding like the Psalms again. 338 00:15:59,190 --> 00:16:00,510 Speaker 1: Yeah. Take it from the top if you want. 339 00:16:00,870 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: Perfect. Um, I guess I'll just take it from the 340 00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:07,290 Speaker 2: top or I'll, I'll take the David thing. Sorry. Um, Yeah, 341 00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:09,610 Speaker 2: the Psalms are full of David just pouring his heart 342 00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:13,450 Speaker 2: out before God, lamenting and wrestling with really real things 343 00:16:13,510 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: with God. And I think it's so beautiful that at 344 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: the end, he always loops around to kind of preaching 345 00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:20,180 Speaker 2: truth to his own heart of, this is how I feel, 346 00:16:20,220 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: but this is what I know to be true about God. 347 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:26,900 Speaker 2: And if you think about the people you're closest with 348 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: in your life, they're not people that you're pretending with, 349 00:16:29,220 --> 00:16:31,359 Speaker 2: that you're saying what you're supposed to say. They're the 350 00:16:31,380 --> 00:16:33,780 Speaker 2: people you're letting in and being real about where you're 351 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,180 Speaker 2: actually at. And God desires that relationship with us, that 352 00:16:37,340 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: real relationship where we're not just pretending and saying the 353 00:16:39,860 --> 00:16:42,220 Speaker 2: thing we're supposed to say. And I also think that 354 00:16:42,260 --> 00:16:44,980 Speaker 2: it's so beautiful in the story of Abraham in scripture, 355 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: a man who knew waiting while he waited 25 years 356 00:16:48,180 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: for God to fulfill the promise to give him a 357 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,180 Speaker 2: son that would eventually become a nation. And there were 358 00:16:53,230 --> 00:16:56,170 Speaker 2: times that Abraham wrestled and that he tried to help 359 00:16:56,210 --> 00:16:59,010 Speaker 2: God fulfill his word. And he did not quote unquote, 360 00:16:59,170 --> 00:17:02,370 Speaker 2: wait perfectly or never waver in his faith. He did 361 00:17:02,430 --> 00:17:04,550 Speaker 2: waver in his faith, but there's a verse in Romans 362 00:17:04,570 --> 00:17:06,450 Speaker 2: that talks about how when all is said and done, 363 00:17:06,910 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: God credited Abraham's faith to him as righteousness. And because 364 00:17:11,020 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: he wavered in his faith, but he didn't ultimately walk 365 00:17:14,260 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 2: away from God. And so for the person who is 366 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,970 Speaker 2: wrestling with those questions and wondering, you know, does God care? 367 00:17:22,090 --> 00:17:25,490 Speaker 2: Is he withholding from me? Bring that to God. Don't 368 00:17:25,530 --> 00:17:27,870 Speaker 2: just pretend. Bring that to God first and foremost, because 369 00:17:27,890 --> 00:17:29,970 Speaker 2: I believe that in that space of bringing those questions 370 00:17:30,010 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: to God, that is where the relationship with him is 371 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: going to grow. And then to just speak to that 372 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,940 Speaker 2: a little bit, I think that's one of the things 373 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 2: that was so helpful for me to realize in my 374 00:17:39,740 --> 00:17:41,780 Speaker 2: waiting season. I remember hearing a quote at one point 375 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,340 Speaker 2: just talking about the concept of story, how story is 376 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: defined as a character who wants something and has to 377 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:51,340 Speaker 2: overcome some sort of obstacle to get what they want. 378 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: But the purpose of the story isn't whether or not 379 00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: that person got what they want. The purpose of the 380 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: story is the character transformation that happens along the way. 381 00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: And that's one of the things I talk about a 382 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: lot is how yes, God cares about our desires more 383 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,580 Speaker 2: than we could even realize, but he also deeply cares 384 00:18:09,619 --> 00:18:12,300 Speaker 2: about who we're becoming in the weight. And I think 385 00:18:12,340 --> 00:18:15,729 Speaker 2: that if we measure God's love and God's care for 386 00:18:15,850 --> 00:18:18,609 Speaker 2: us solely based off of whether the desires are fulfilled, 387 00:18:19,150 --> 00:18:20,710 Speaker 2: then that is going to lead us to that place 388 00:18:20,850 --> 00:18:24,170 Speaker 2: often of, you know, God doesn't care. He's withholding from me, 389 00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:26,830 Speaker 2: especially when we have this thing that we're waiting for 390 00:18:26,850 --> 00:18:29,830 Speaker 2: and nothing's happening and we're seeing everybody around us get 391 00:18:29,869 --> 00:18:32,290 Speaker 2: that thing. It almost feels like, okay, is God playing favorites? 392 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:34,619 Speaker 2: Like what What did they do to get this thing 393 00:18:34,660 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: and I didn't do to not get this thing? And 394 00:18:37,859 --> 00:18:41,489 Speaker 2: so if we're measuring it just by that, then we're 395 00:18:41,710 --> 00:18:43,990 Speaker 2: going to start to really doubt God's love and his 396 00:18:44,030 --> 00:18:47,030 Speaker 2: care for us. But if we understand that his love 397 00:18:47,150 --> 00:18:49,890 Speaker 2: is demonstrated not only in just giving us the things 398 00:18:49,910 --> 00:18:53,649 Speaker 2: that we want, but ultimately in conforming us to the 399 00:18:53,770 --> 00:18:58,050 Speaker 2: image of Christ, his loving promise to never stop changing 400 00:18:58,150 --> 00:19:00,369 Speaker 2: us more and more into his image from one degree 401 00:19:00,410 --> 00:19:03,010 Speaker 2: of glory to the next, that gives us the appropriate 402 00:19:03,090 --> 00:19:05,649 Speaker 2: lens to look at the things we go through. And 403 00:19:05,670 --> 00:19:07,540 Speaker 2: it doesn't make them easier. It doesn't make the long 404 00:19:07,580 --> 00:19:10,260 Speaker 2: waiting seasons easier when we're without the thing that we're 405 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:14,100 Speaker 2: longing for. It doesn't make the painful seasons of suffering easier. 406 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,500 Speaker 2: But when we realize that those things are not evidence 407 00:19:17,619 --> 00:19:19,699 Speaker 2: of his lack of care for us or evidence that 408 00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: he is withholding for us, but that he is allowing 409 00:19:22,580 --> 00:19:25,700 Speaker 2: and using those things to change us into his image 410 00:19:25,740 --> 00:19:28,420 Speaker 2: because he loves us, then it can kind of shift 411 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: our perspective a little bit. 412 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: That's so good. That's really good because I think comparison, 413 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,550 Speaker 1: especially just in today's day and age, is like so 414 00:19:37,730 --> 00:19:41,450 Speaker 1: easily accessible. Like it's easy to to not just look 415 00:19:41,550 --> 00:19:44,030 Speaker 1: to the person sitting next to us in the pew 416 00:19:44,170 --> 00:19:46,109 Speaker 1: or the person in the cubicle right next to us. 417 00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:49,530 Speaker 1: But even online, it's like it's just so easy to 418 00:19:49,570 --> 00:19:52,420 Speaker 1: be like. look at what they have right now like 419 00:19:52,859 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: it just seems like God is delivering and delivering and 420 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,740 Speaker 1: delivering for them and then for me it's just like 421 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,859 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed I'm waiting like I'm I feel like life 422 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,110 Speaker 1: has just been delayed for me And we can even 423 00:20:07,150 --> 00:20:10,490 Speaker 1: begin to internally be like, well, did I do something wrong? Like, 424 00:20:10,550 --> 00:20:13,020 Speaker 1: have I messed up God's plans for me? Have I 425 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: messed up the will of God? If I haven't received 426 00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: this thing right here and right now, like we can 427 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,379 Speaker 1: get so hung up on us not having the thing. 428 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:24,850 Speaker 1: And maybe that is perpetuated by comparison. Maybe that's perpetuated 429 00:20:24,869 --> 00:20:27,629 Speaker 1: by our own insecurity or our own expectations, whatever it 430 00:20:27,670 --> 00:20:30,770 Speaker 1: could be. But one thing that I love that you 431 00:20:30,810 --> 00:20:34,310 Speaker 1: talk about in the book is this concept of like, okay, 432 00:20:35,020 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: maybe this isn't like a place of defeat or delay. 433 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: Maybe like this is actually such a prime time for discipleship, 434 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:47,140 Speaker 1: like the transformation that you're talking about. So I'm wondering 435 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,010 Speaker 1: like for, for the person who's in that place where 436 00:20:50,030 --> 00:20:53,730 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, rather than seeing this as, as a negative, 437 00:20:54,030 --> 00:20:57,490 Speaker 1: as a withholding or a defeat or this or that, like, 438 00:20:57,950 --> 00:21:02,010 Speaker 1: let me actually shift gears and kind of have, submit 439 00:21:02,030 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: this to the Lord, really surrender this to the Lord 440 00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: and be like, okay, God, what are you doing here? 441 00:21:06,380 --> 00:21:08,580 Speaker 1: What do you want to do here? What are some 442 00:21:08,619 --> 00:21:13,060 Speaker 1: key things that maybe God develops within the waiting? Or 443 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:15,899 Speaker 1: were there any key things in your waiting seasons where 444 00:21:15,940 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: it's like, God developed these things in me or God 445 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: instilled these things in me. And for that, I am 446 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: better for that. My relationship with God is better for that. 447 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,110 Speaker 1: I am of better use to the kingdom. Like what, what, 448 00:21:29,470 --> 00:21:32,030 Speaker 1: what was developed within you that maybe other people can 449 00:21:32,430 --> 00:21:36,090 Speaker 1: look forward to or begin to develop themselves with God? 450 00:21:36,450 --> 00:21:40,570 Speaker 2: For sure. I think that I know with certainty that 451 00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:43,129 Speaker 2: if I had gotten the things I wanted when I 452 00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:45,510 Speaker 2: wanted them, I would not at all be who I 453 00:21:45,570 --> 00:21:48,690 Speaker 2: am today doing what I'm doing today. Most importantly, I 454 00:21:48,790 --> 00:21:50,609 Speaker 2: don't think that my relate, I mean, God can use anything, 455 00:21:50,750 --> 00:21:55,100 Speaker 2: but I, he used that weight to, you know, make 456 00:21:55,130 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: my relationship with him what it is today, where I 457 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,180 Speaker 2: just love him have and desire deeply for other people 458 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: to love him. And so, um, there's just so much 459 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: that he does through that. I remember I had a 460 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,590 Speaker 2: dream one time about being out to dinner with a 461 00:22:08,609 --> 00:22:11,710 Speaker 2: bunch of friends and everybody's food was coming and mine 462 00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:13,530 Speaker 2: wasn't coming. And you're kind of like hoping the waiter's 463 00:22:13,570 --> 00:22:15,629 Speaker 2: going to say yours will be right out. And the 464 00:22:15,650 --> 00:22:18,030 Speaker 2: waiter didn't say that. And so I'm just like sitting 465 00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:20,830 Speaker 2: there anxiously watching the food on all my friends plate 466 00:22:20,850 --> 00:22:23,489 Speaker 2: dwindle down and mine was not coming. I had not 467 00:22:23,530 --> 00:22:24,969 Speaker 2: heard your food will be right out. And I think 468 00:22:24,990 --> 00:22:27,190 Speaker 2: that's a lot of times what we feel in waiting 469 00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: seasons too. And where the kind of comparison element sneaks 470 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,340 Speaker 2: in of just like, okay, like not only do I 471 00:22:32,380 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: want my food to come out and I want to 472 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,540 Speaker 2: enjoy my food, but I also want to enjoy it 473 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,699 Speaker 2: with everybody else. And by the time my food comes out, 474 00:22:37,740 --> 00:22:39,300 Speaker 2: is everybody else going to be finished? And they're just 475 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,060 Speaker 2: going to be moving on to the next thing. And 476 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to be sitting here eating it all by myself. 477 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: And so I think that dream really brought up some 478 00:22:45,340 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: of the things that come up in waiting. But the 479 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:51,950 Speaker 2: thing that I kind of realized through that is in 480 00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: my dream, everybody had ordered something similar and I had 481 00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: ordered something different. And I feel like God just kind 482 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,740 Speaker 2: of used that to remind me, like, what I have 483 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,020 Speaker 2: for you is special and unique to you. Not in 484 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: the sense that it's, you know, better than what I 485 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 2: have for anybody else, but what I have for each 486 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,490 Speaker 2: person is special and unique to that person. And what 487 00:23:09,530 --> 00:23:11,629 Speaker 2: I have for each person's life, it takes different amounts 488 00:23:11,670 --> 00:23:15,330 Speaker 2: of time to prepare. And so just when the comparison 489 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:17,190 Speaker 2: element sneaks in, it's like, yeah, we can look at 490 00:23:17,230 --> 00:23:19,949 Speaker 2: what other people have and what God seems to be 491 00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:22,660 Speaker 2: doing in other people's lives, but we always only have 492 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 2: part of the picture, either what people choose to share 493 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,419 Speaker 2: with us or what we see online or whatever the 494 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: case may be. We don't know the story it took 495 00:23:29,940 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: to get there. We don't know the challenges that come 496 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: with that. 497 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: But when we. 498 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 2: Seek after what somebody else has rather than, you know, 499 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:41,699 Speaker 2: focusing on what God has for us, we're missing the 500 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,300 Speaker 2: unique special things that he has prepared for us. And 501 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: so in my waiting story, like I kind of shared 502 00:23:46,940 --> 00:23:49,330 Speaker 2: with me wanting to be married really young and become 503 00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:51,419 Speaker 2: a mom really young, And then having this friend who 504 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 2: was like the opposite, she was very career oriented and 505 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: wanting to like build her career and then ended up 506 00:23:56,140 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 2: getting married and becoming a mom really young. It's like 507 00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:01,070 Speaker 2: God was doing different things in each of our lives. 508 00:24:01,109 --> 00:24:03,990 Speaker 2: And for me, he was leading me into just discovering 509 00:24:04,030 --> 00:24:06,750 Speaker 2: this love for encouraging others with biblical truth and leading 510 00:24:06,770 --> 00:24:09,950 Speaker 2: me into things that I absolutely love now. I feel 511 00:24:10,330 --> 00:24:13,770 Speaker 2: so much of God's purpose and joy in when I'm 512 00:24:13,810 --> 00:24:16,290 Speaker 2: getting to create content or do Bible studies or just 513 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: host small groups where we're cultivating conversations where people can 514 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: come to know God more. And so he was drawing 515 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,310 Speaker 2: out some of those purposes for me. And by his grace, 516 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:27,550 Speaker 2: he did have these other desires for me as well. 517 00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:30,210 Speaker 2: But I would have missed this other huge part of 518 00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:32,369 Speaker 2: who he created me to be that he was pulling 519 00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:35,230 Speaker 2: out and developing if things had kind of happened the 520 00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:37,310 Speaker 2: way on the timeline that I imagined. 521 00:24:38,030 --> 00:24:40,810 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it even makes me think like you were 522 00:24:40,970 --> 00:24:45,170 Speaker 1: able to find so much life in the waiting. Like 523 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: it unlocked... It gave you a place of perspective to 524 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,940 Speaker 1: actually like pause and be like, wait, this is something 525 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,690 Speaker 1: that God has put in me that I didn't even 526 00:24:54,830 --> 00:25:00,170 Speaker 1: know existed. Skills or dreams or calling. And I think 527 00:25:00,250 --> 00:25:02,909 Speaker 1: that that is something that maybe we can really reflect 528 00:25:02,990 --> 00:25:06,700 Speaker 1: on today is like, okay, is there something that God 529 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: has put within me that I don't even know yet? 530 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,090 Speaker 1: Like that's the prayer maybe to praise. God, in this 531 00:25:12,130 --> 00:25:14,530 Speaker 1: season of waiting, is there something that you want me 532 00:25:14,609 --> 00:25:17,189 Speaker 1: to realize? Is there something that you want me to 533 00:25:17,260 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: take notice of? Whether it's a person or a ministry 534 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,660 Speaker 1: or a specific assignment for right here, right now, today 535 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:28,810 Speaker 1: that I otherwise would have missed had you not put 536 00:25:28,830 --> 00:25:31,830 Speaker 1: a pause on what I was hoping would be the 537 00:25:31,869 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: next chapter or the next thing to do or whatever, right? So, 538 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: and look at you now, it's like you're, you're thriving. 539 00:25:39,820 --> 00:25:42,900 Speaker 1: Like you have the marriage. Yes. And you have the kids. Yes. 540 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,740 Speaker 1: But you also are pouring into so many women and 541 00:25:45,770 --> 00:25:48,790 Speaker 1: you're doing kingdom work. That is so important. Yes. Within 542 00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:51,850 Speaker 1: your family, but, but even outside of the family too, 543 00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:54,030 Speaker 1: in the lives of so many other women. And it's like, 544 00:25:54,450 --> 00:25:57,330 Speaker 1: I know for me, partnering with God and doing what 545 00:25:57,369 --> 00:25:59,930 Speaker 1: he has called me to do is the most life 546 00:25:59,990 --> 00:26:03,150 Speaker 1: giving thing ever. And I don't want to miss out 547 00:26:03,210 --> 00:26:06,929 Speaker 1: on that. And I, maybe that's the point of waiting 548 00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:10,020 Speaker 1: is so that we actually don't miss out on the thing. 549 00:26:10,380 --> 00:26:13,500 Speaker 1: Like we think waiting is missing out, but maybe it's 550 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:16,500 Speaker 1: so that we don't miss out. Right. I would love 551 00:26:16,540 --> 00:26:19,340 Speaker 1: to just throw it to you as we begin to 552 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,020 Speaker 1: wrap up just some final thoughts, maybe for the listener 553 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,020 Speaker 1: who might just be like exhausted of waiting. Like maybe 554 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: she's been praying for the marriage or the baby or, 555 00:26:31,270 --> 00:26:36,230 Speaker 1: healing or reconciliation or direction or opportunity, you know, anything. 556 00:26:36,290 --> 00:26:39,970 Speaker 1: It could be days, weeks, months, years, eons. I don't know. 557 00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:43,780 Speaker 1: Like what is one truth that you want people to 558 00:26:43,859 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: walk away from as they read your book? 559 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,260 Speaker 2: Yes. 560 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,899 Speaker 1: But even just from our episode today. 561 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,899 Speaker 2: For sure. Well, I love what you said is, you know, 562 00:26:51,540 --> 00:26:55,100 Speaker 2: this isn't withholding, but actually God preventing you from missing 563 00:26:55,220 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: out on the good, the fullness of the good that 564 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,630 Speaker 2: he has for you. And I love what you encourage 565 00:27:00,030 --> 00:27:02,129 Speaker 2: people with is that question of, God, is there something 566 00:27:02,150 --> 00:27:04,950 Speaker 2: you have for me? Is there some purpose you have 567 00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:06,629 Speaker 2: for me in this? And I just want to say 568 00:27:06,670 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: that the answer for every single person listening right now 569 00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:12,780 Speaker 2: is yes. And the question is, you know, God, what 570 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: is that specifically for me? Ephesians 2.10 says, we are 571 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,060 Speaker 2: created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which he 572 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:20,669 Speaker 2: prepared in advance that we may walk in them. And 573 00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:22,250 Speaker 2: that means that if you're listening to this, if you've 574 00:27:22,270 --> 00:27:25,770 Speaker 2: got breath in your lungs, God has incredible, beautiful purposes 575 00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:28,590 Speaker 2: for your life that he wants... to invite you to 576 00:27:28,650 --> 00:27:31,150 Speaker 2: partner with him and bringing about his kingdom here on earth. 577 00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:32,669 Speaker 2: And so I think that that is such a beautiful 578 00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:35,590 Speaker 2: place to start for that person who's just in the 579 00:27:35,609 --> 00:27:37,490 Speaker 2: thick of the waiting. And again, I know that doesn't 580 00:27:37,550 --> 00:27:40,149 Speaker 2: change the pain of being without something that you're desiring, 581 00:27:40,590 --> 00:27:43,230 Speaker 2: but saying, okay, God, I trust you that you see 582 00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:45,550 Speaker 2: this desire and I don't know the when or the 583 00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:47,890 Speaker 2: what or the how or the if, but I trust 584 00:27:47,910 --> 00:27:49,689 Speaker 2: that you see this and I trust that you are 585 00:27:49,730 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: not withholding from me. And so would you reveal to 586 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,380 Speaker 2: me what it is you have for me right here 587 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,050 Speaker 2: and right now? And I think, you know, it's interesting 588 00:27:57,070 --> 00:27:58,970 Speaker 2: as you were saying, kind of speaking to my story 589 00:27:58,990 --> 00:28:01,110 Speaker 2: of how God was just fleshing so much out during 590 00:28:01,130 --> 00:28:05,330 Speaker 2: those waiting years. It's so interesting that circumstantially, not a 591 00:28:05,390 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: lot in my life was changing. I was going to 592 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: the same job, you know, same corporate job day after 593 00:28:09,619 --> 00:28:12,340 Speaker 2: day after day, going back to the same childhood bedroom 594 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,980 Speaker 2: that I was living in at my parents' house, going 595 00:28:14,020 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: to the same church, like waking up every day, living 596 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,940 Speaker 2: the same routine. But even when nothing is changing circumstantially, 597 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:22,010 Speaker 2: God was doing so much inside. And that's when he 598 00:28:22,030 --> 00:28:23,990 Speaker 2: was drawing that stuff out. And so I think for 599 00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:26,950 Speaker 2: the person listening, really asking God, like, what is it 600 00:28:26,990 --> 00:28:28,149 Speaker 2: that you want to draw out? What is it that 601 00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:30,210 Speaker 2: you want to do? Like you said, is it a person? 602 00:28:30,270 --> 00:28:32,350 Speaker 2: Is it a ministry? And God's going to be faithful 603 00:28:32,390 --> 00:28:34,170 Speaker 2: to answer that when we seek him in the weight. 604 00:28:35,210 --> 00:28:37,570 Speaker 2: I can assure you that there is a purpose. And 605 00:28:37,609 --> 00:28:39,190 Speaker 2: I can also assure you that he is going. 606 00:28:39,090 --> 00:28:41,630 Speaker 1: To be faithful to reveal to you what that is. 607 00:28:42,270 --> 00:28:43,890 Speaker 2: And the last thing I would just want to say 608 00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:46,630 Speaker 2: to encourage the person in that spot is, you know, 609 00:28:46,790 --> 00:28:48,190 Speaker 2: as I've shared kind of some of my story of 610 00:28:48,250 --> 00:28:51,710 Speaker 2: longing for marriage. And then, yes, God did eventually graciously 611 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:53,830 Speaker 2: give that to me. it's still not the end of 612 00:28:53,850 --> 00:28:56,310 Speaker 2: the story. It's not the happily ever after. I got 613 00:28:56,330 --> 00:28:59,050 Speaker 2: the thing I was waiting for. Marriage in and of itself, 614 00:28:59,170 --> 00:29:02,570 Speaker 2: motherhood in and of itself wasn't the point. And actually 615 00:29:02,610 --> 00:29:05,209 Speaker 2: those two things, those two roles in my life today 616 00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:08,620 Speaker 2: are the biggest roles that God continues to use to 617 00:29:08,650 --> 00:29:13,860 Speaker 2: sanctify me, to expose my selfishness, to expose my sin 618 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: and to bring me further into just who he created 619 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: me to be. And so in the wait for those things, 620 00:29:19,620 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: God was using the wait to sanctify me to make 621 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,660 Speaker 2: me look more like him. But it wasn't like, okay, 622 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: happily ever after, the credits roll, nothing hard ever happens again. 623 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,940 Speaker 2: God was simply inviting me into a new story where 624 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,770 Speaker 2: he was gonna continue to work in my life in 625 00:29:33,850 --> 00:29:35,690 Speaker 2: new ways and the same is true for you. The 626 00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:38,110 Speaker 2: thing that you're waiting on, I believe with everything in 627 00:29:38,150 --> 00:29:39,870 Speaker 2: me that God has a good plan and a purpose 628 00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:43,220 Speaker 2: for it. And if God brings you into a new season, 629 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,060 Speaker 2: there's going to be a new story where he's going 630 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: to look to grow you and stretch you and sanctify 631 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,470 Speaker 2: you in new ways. Because the purpose of all of it, 632 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,030 Speaker 2: the purpose of our lives as believers isn't as much 633 00:29:53,070 --> 00:29:54,870 Speaker 2: as we'd like for it to be just our comfort 634 00:29:54,930 --> 00:29:57,410 Speaker 2: or things being easy or us having all the things 635 00:29:57,450 --> 00:29:59,730 Speaker 2: we want and all the desires fulfilled. Like God gives 636 00:29:59,770 --> 00:30:02,730 Speaker 2: us those sweet gifts, I believe weaved in, but those 637 00:30:02,770 --> 00:30:06,190 Speaker 2: things are not ever the purpose. The purpose is knowing him, 638 00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:09,430 Speaker 2: making him known and ultimately becoming more like him for 639 00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:11,090 Speaker 2: the day that we see him face to face, because 640 00:30:11,170 --> 00:30:13,820 Speaker 2: that as believers is the ultimate thing that we're waiting for. 641 00:30:14,260 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: We have things that we wait for in all of life, 642 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,540 Speaker 2: but we are waiting for that day when we see 643 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, our Lord and savior face to face and 644 00:30:20,620 --> 00:30:23,550 Speaker 2: where we're in an instant, we are fully restored to 645 00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:26,690 Speaker 2: right relationship with God. And he is preparing us for 646 00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:29,490 Speaker 2: that day. And so there's my favorite verse is 2 647 00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:32,730 Speaker 2: Corinthians 3.18 that says, and we all with unveiled face 648 00:30:33,130 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: beholding the glory of the Lord are being transformed into 649 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: the same image from one degree of glory to the next. 650 00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: And so whatever phase in your story you are right now, 651 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,980 Speaker 2: whatever season you are, even if it's hard, even if 652 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,500 Speaker 2: you're waiting and you feel like God doesn't see you. 653 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,340 Speaker 1: God, that is. 654 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: One degree of glory in your story that God is 655 00:30:50,140 --> 00:30:52,420 Speaker 2: using to mold you into his image. And he's going 656 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: to invite you at some point into a new story. 657 00:30:54,780 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: And he's also going to use that story to do 658 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 2: the same thing. And so that's, that's encouragement I'd like 659 00:30:58,500 --> 00:30:59,420 Speaker 2: to leave, leave you with. 660 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:05,230 Speaker 1: Preach girl. That is good. So good. Y'all who are listening, 661 00:31:05,250 --> 00:31:10,130 Speaker 1: if this episode has just spoken to you in any way, 662 00:31:10,450 --> 00:31:13,270 Speaker 1: in anything that we talked about, Casey dives into this, 663 00:31:13,770 --> 00:31:17,220 Speaker 1: like even more tenfold in her book, which I said 664 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: is out today. So whether you're listening today, this drops, 665 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,540 Speaker 1: I know that's like, it's the, it's the biggest thing 666 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,580 Speaker 1: because it's like, as a fellow author, it's like, okay, 667 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,870 Speaker 1: it's finally out, but that's not the finish line. It's right. Running. 668 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,150 Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, now I'm doing the podcast and 669 00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:35,890 Speaker 1: I'm speaking and I'm doing all the things, but I 670 00:31:35,930 --> 00:31:37,790 Speaker 1: just want to, I just want to let you know, 671 00:31:38,150 --> 00:31:41,050 Speaker 1: job well done, job well done, Casey, because I know 672 00:31:41,070 --> 00:31:43,860 Speaker 1: that this is, this is a, a hard thing to 673 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: do and it is a very worthy thing to do. 674 00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:49,250 Speaker 1: So I'm really proud of you. Thank you. 675 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:49,540 Speaker 2: Likewise. 676 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. Where can people get your book? Where can 677 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,660 Speaker 1: they check it out? Whether they want to listen to 678 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: it or read it for themselves, like how can people 679 00:31:57,460 --> 00:31:59,010 Speaker 1: get their hands on it or ears on it? 680 00:31:59,380 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: Yep. Well, like you said, it is out today, which 681 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: is so crazy. So you can grab it anywhere books 682 00:32:03,420 --> 00:32:07,820 Speaker 2: are sold. Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Christian Book, Tyndale, And 683 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: then it's also available on audiobook and Kindle. So however 684 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,620 Speaker 2: you best like to read your books, it's ready for you. 685 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: Perfect. Well, I'll link that down below so y'all can 686 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,810 Speaker 1: go check that out and you can get your hands 687 00:32:18,930 --> 00:32:22,650 Speaker 1: on it. But without further ado, I love you guys. 688 00:32:22,930 --> 00:32:26,209 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this week's episode. Casey, where can 689 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:28,250 Speaker 1: people follow you and keep up to date with everything 690 00:32:28,270 --> 00:32:30,090 Speaker 1: that you're doing? Because I know that you're a content 691 00:32:30,170 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: queen building people up online. So where can people check 692 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,260 Speaker 1: out all the things that you're doing? 693 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,540 Speaker 2: Yeah, the main places I'm active are YouTube and Instagram, 694 00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:41,020 Speaker 2: and both of those handles are Casey Nicole. So you 695 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,540 Speaker 2: can find me there. 696 00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: Perfect. Y'all go check her out. Until next week, I 697 00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:49,660 Speaker 1: love you. And remember to keep on waiting because it 698 00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:52,180 Speaker 1: is the best thing. It is not an interruption. It 699 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,470 Speaker 1: is not a delay. It's divine intervention. God's going to 700 00:32:56,530 --> 00:33:01,150 Speaker 1: use that. See you next week. Bye. For more life-giving 701 00:33:01,210 --> 00:33:05,590 Speaker 1: faith-based podcasts just like this one, check out lifeaudio.com, a 702 00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:07,980 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Botten Beloved Podcast.