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Speaker 2: Teed up off my ear.

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Speaker 3: With the Subdego Brook, Dallas, Texas. Here's the sage brush,

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Speaker 3: Mark Davis.

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Speaker 4: How many guys who fill in on shows get like

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Speaker 4: South Central hence being in Texas is the happy morning

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Speaker 4: Fort Worth, which you see behind me on the Salem

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Speaker 4: News Channel. Wherever you are, Greetings and the sage brush.

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Speaker 4: I'll take it, and boy will I take with Relish

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Speaker 4: and Gusto and a heart that is full and a

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Speaker 4: head that is full of things to share with you

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Speaker 4: at the end of this amazing week, there's been a

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Speaker 4: lot to talk about and being sort of the back

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Speaker 4: end of the Salem Radio network chronologically Salem News Channel

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Speaker 4: lineup that begins with Christigaul and goes to Mike Gallagher

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Speaker 4: and goes to Scott Jennings and goes to Hugh Hewitt

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Speaker 4: and then winds up here on the Larry Elder Show.

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Speaker 4: This is the opportunity on this prime platform of conservative

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Speaker 4: media that I've been so proud to be a part

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Speaker 4: of since twenty twelve, and this profession of talk radio,

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Speaker 4: talk television, talk media that I've been involved with for

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Speaker 4: almost forty five years. I don't know. I mean I've

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Speaker 4: seen a lot. I've been around a long time, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know when I've seen the confluence of events,

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Speaker 4: the confluence of circumstances kind of like we're seeing right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, have we seen police related shootings and protests

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Speaker 4: seen that my entire life. I have some comparisons I

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Speaker 4: want to draw because I'm old enough to remember. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I was a kid. I was living, in fact, living

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Speaker 4: in the suburbs of Washington when Washington, DC erupted in

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Speaker 4: Vietnam protests and things like that, and in in nineteen

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Speaker 4: But that at its worst is not like what we're

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Speaker 4: seeing right now. As you can kind of tell, I

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Speaker 4: have some some macro observations to make about it, and

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Speaker 4: some micro observations to make about it. The micro involves

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Speaker 4: the video that we're going to take a look at

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Speaker 4: here in a minute. There are two kinds of people

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Speaker 4: listening and watching, those who have seen and heard this

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Speaker 4: and those who have not. If you have, like all

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Speaker 4: the other video clips, let's see it for that twenty

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Speaker 4: seventh time. If you have not, it'll be your opportunity

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Speaker 4: to know what everybody's talking about as afternoon turns to

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Speaker 4: evening in America on this Friday, the ninth of January.

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Speaker 4: But so the micro will be the elements of what

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Speaker 4: the second by second details of what this must be like.

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Speaker 4: But please everybody remember that we have had, now for

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Speaker 4: what a couple of days, the luxury of freeze framing

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Speaker 4: this on our laptops and holding our phones and going,

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Speaker 4: wait a minute, let me rewind that and see that

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Speaker 4: forty seven times. And we've had the luxury of sitting

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Speaker 4: or wondering what this cop should have done. Is this

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Speaker 4: the perfect shooting? Is this cut and dried? Is this

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Speaker 4: black and white? It is not. However, there's enough there

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Speaker 4: if you take a look at actual video, there's enough there.

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Speaker 4: If you understand police work and I've never been a cop,

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Speaker 4: but I've spent these forty some years. It's kind of

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Speaker 4: like when I talk about military things. My dad was

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Speaker 4: twenty years in the Air Force. I did not serve.

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Speaker 4: I went off to be a radio dork. I hope

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Speaker 4: it's worked out well for everybody. But I've spent my

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Speaker 4: always speak with one unified voice. On some things like

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Speaker 4: which is just blocks away from where where Renee Good died.

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Speaker 4: It's there was difference of opinion. Was that the best

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Speaker 4: George Floyd died largely because of many things related to

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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean I'm even The confluence of police opinion

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Speaker 4: and I need to There's that old adage of know

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Speaker 4: split second moments where decisions have to be made. So

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Speaker 4: the overarching thing that I'll share and then I want

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Speaker 4: you guys to share just a bunch with me, And

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Speaker 4: that is eight eight eight nine seven to one sage

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Speaker 4: If the question is did he have to one thousand

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Speaker 4: Are there ways this could have gone differently? Plenty? Is

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Speaker 4: it tragic that it went this way? Yes? But was

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Speaker 4: was because this officer didn't have the luxuries that we have,

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Speaker 4: didn't have the long and comfortable hours. I say comfortable

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Speaker 4: meaning I'm comfortable sitting here, unlike the moment of being

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Speaker 4: there seeing somebody's vehicle coming at you. And now with

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Speaker 4: this video, we know the vehicle was coming at it.

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Speaker 4: So what do you do? Honestly, it's not even what

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Speaker 4: what did he do? And what were his actions? Justified?

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Speaker 4: They absolutely were. I got fourteen other points to make.

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Speaker 4: Let's run this thing or I'll never get to it

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Speaker 4: enormously grateful to be here today. I did my own

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Speaker 4: I welcomed all kinds of views that did not necessarily

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Speaker 4: And it was constructive and the guy was not a lunatic,

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Speaker 4: often in public office. The people who are lunatics are

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Speaker 4: far too often goating other people onto the street where

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Speaker 4: they die, like Ms Good did driven by And I

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Speaker 4: don't even know about this partner. Becca is that her name?

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Speaker 4: You see her in this video, you know, drive drive

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Speaker 4: and her mouthing off to the cop. Let me shut

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Speaker 4: justified what we've been saying for days. Roll it. That's fine, dude,

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Speaker 5: You're think I'm not.

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Speaker 4: That's okay. We don't change our plates every morning, just so.

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Speaker 6: You know it'll be the same plate when you come

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Speaker 6: talk to us later.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 7: You want to citizen.

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Speaker 8: Form, you want to come at us, you want to.

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Speaker 2: Come at us, I say, go get yourself some lunch,

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Speaker 4: Oh there you are. The sound you hear, the sound

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Speaker 4: you hear is leftist narratives crumbling to the ground. But

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Speaker 4: many of them don't even know it and won't even

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Speaker 4: own it. If this had been video of an officer

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Speaker 4: But that's not what the video shows. And how and

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Speaker 4: go get some lunch. Now. That shouldn't get you killed,

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Speaker 4: that kind of obnoxiousness, and of course she's still alive.

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Speaker 4: But being obnoxious or mouthing off shouldn't get you a bullet.

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Speaker 4: Hitting the gas with an officer in front of you

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Speaker 4: may very well in every instance, probably not in this

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Speaker 4: instance it did. Was it justified in this instance? Yes?

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Speaker 4: It was. That's it. That is the bottom line. You

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Speaker 4: may draw a different bottom line. Millions of people in

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Speaker 4: America are So let's talk about it, shall we, And

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Speaker 4: So, as this drama played out day before yesterday, I

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Speaker 4: wondered if the streets of Minneapolis or the streets of

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Speaker 4: America would burn as they did following the George Floyd death.

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Speaker 4: A number of things are different than a number of

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Speaker 10: Hello, Hi Mart, thanks for having met. So I just

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Speaker 4: Exactly, but so much as made and thank you very

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Speaker 12: To you, sir, hey Mark in the call. I have

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Speaker 5: is doing something wrong, maybe they should change their uniforms

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Speaker 5: so their number, of their badge number is a little

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Speaker 5: bit more prominent. And then take me into the process.

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Speaker 5: Just listen to what I'm telling you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we can also get very granular about police

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Speaker 4: procedure and the way ICE goes about things. I appreciate

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Speaker 4: your call, good content. Let me take about the minute

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Speaker 4: to get out of this and hit the brake and

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Speaker 4: come back to more of you at eight eight eight

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Speaker 4: nine seven to one stage. You don't have to like

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Speaker 4: the cops. You have free speech in America, a First

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Speaker 4: Amendment right where you can mouth off I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, from your from social media, from a soapbox,

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Speaker 4: from a you know, with a bullhorn on a street corner.

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Speaker 4: You can share whatever anti police sentiments you may wish.

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Speaker 4: If you're if you're an NFL quarterback. You can wear

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Speaker 4: socks that portray cops's pigs like Colin Kaepernick did. Probably

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Speaker 4: not going to be at a team for the rest

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Speaker 4: of your life, but you can do it. We're not

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Speaker 4: going to put you in jail for it. But the

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Speaker 4: level of hate, the level of derision, the level of

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Speaker 4: smears being directed at cops, it's unprecedented. Mark Davison for

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Speaker 4: Larry Elder, and we'll be right back Mark Davis and

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Speaker 4: Hilary Elder. On this Friday, the ninth of January, phone

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Speaker 4: numbers eight eight, eight, nine, seven to one. Sage got

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Speaker 4: a lot of people weighing in, agreed, disagree, I mean,

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Speaker 4: and again micro and macro about the shooting, about the

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Speaker 4: various video angles we've seen. And then as we move

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Speaker 4: from this hour into the next, and at the beginning

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Speaker 4: of next hour, our good friend Colonel Kurt schlickter energetic

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Speaker 4: columnist for town Hall, frequent fill in host on The

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Speaker 4: Hewitt Show, and maybe other places. I don't know, but

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Speaker 4: a long, longtime friend of mine. Colonel Kurt has a

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Speaker 4: thing or two to add at the top of the

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Speaker 4: next hour, So we'll talk to him. On a day

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Speaker 4: where our main focus is talking to you. So eight

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Speaker 4: eight eight nine, seven to one, Sage. Mark Davis in

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Speaker 4: for Larry. Let's head back to your calls. We're in

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Speaker 4: San Jose, California, and Tom that is you. Welcome to

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Speaker 4: the program, Mark Davison, Hilary and happy Friday.

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Speaker 9: Mark, thanks for taking my calls. Minster talking for the

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Speaker 9: first time.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure if anybody cares if they're interested in

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Speaker 9: training law enforcement opinion on these things. We all know

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Speaker 9: that a vehicle is a is a lethal weapons. Now

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Speaker 9: everybody's learning that this same exact officer got He's gotten

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Speaker 9: dragged before, and he should have happened in the first

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Speaker 9: place when he got dragged, but he was trying to

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Speaker 9: accommodate the wrong people. He needs to go back to

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Speaker 9: his We call what's called post training Peace Officers Standard

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Speaker 9: and training. It's called post POS and it's very specific

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Speaker 9: and it's very heavy. And with that training, you've got

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Speaker 9: to leave the weapon pointed at you. You need to

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Speaker 9: neutralize the threat. And he watched it all all the angles,

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Speaker 9: and that man is incredible what he did. He didn't

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Speaker 9: even draw his gun until the weapon was pulled on

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Speaker 9: him and went after him. And that was such a

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Speaker 9: quick draw and such a quick shot, and it was

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Speaker 9: call a good shoot.

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Speaker 4: Good? Sure.

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Speaker 9: What What bothers me the most, though, Mark, is where

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Speaker 9: are the professionals? And I have some personal experience with

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Speaker 9: this that are not coming out, for example, like Derek Chauvin.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to, I'm not going to change the subject,

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Speaker 9: but Derek Chauvin, what are you doing with his knee?

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Speaker 9: That is post training. That's what you do on the

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Speaker 9: upper back. That's where you put your knee to keep

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Speaker 9: that big under control.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm not going to I'm not gonna yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to. I'm not going to relet again.

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Speaker 9: Come out and and say that what happened was it

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Speaker 9: was a good shoot.

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Speaker 4: I've heard I've quite frankly heard a ton of them. Well,

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Speaker 4: Tommy answers, I've quite frankly heard a ton of them

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Speaker 4: in these last couple of days, and you among them.

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Speaker 4: And I am grateful, thank you. As I said, if

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Speaker 4: there's any there's anything I'm going to pay attention to,

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Speaker 4: it's the opinions of those who have had careers in

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Speaker 4: law enforcement, especially those I've had the great blessing of

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Speaker 4: knowing people. I mean I'm blessed that they're still alive

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Speaker 4: who have had things, who had split second things like

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Speaker 4: this happened to them. And I've heard these gut wrenching

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Speaker 4: stories of what it is like, and I've just got

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Speaker 4: to wear that. I've got to put that on, i

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Speaker 4: got to put that mantle on, and I've got to

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Speaker 4: think about and it may not be so much gee

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Speaker 4: if it were me, because it's never going to be me.

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Speaker 4: I do conservative media for a living. I get up,

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Speaker 4: I drive to this building, I do radio and TV shows.

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Speaker 4: I don't think at the moment that I'm likely to

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Speaker 4: get shot or likely to have somebody try to run

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Speaker 4: me over. This is why, I mean, I can't speak

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Speaker 4: for everybody, but I've been a back the blue guy forever,

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Speaker 4: not in the face of actual police misconduct. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I was joining with a lot of cops and saying

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Speaker 4: that Derek Chauvin did not have to keep him under

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Speaker 4: his knee for nine and whatever minutes it was. And

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Speaker 4: there's a difference opinion on that. I was listening to

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Speaker 4: cops across the spectrum on that listening to cops on

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Speaker 4: this they I mean, is there an active duty or

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Speaker 4: a retired cop who says this is a bad shoot.

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Speaker 4: And I don't mean a dubious shoot. I don't mean

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Speaker 4: one that you can find fault with. I'm a human being.

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Speaker 4: I've talked about my eyes and my brain. I've seen

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Speaker 4: with my eyes and processed with my brain and felt

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Speaker 4: with my heart the tragedy of this horrible death of

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Speaker 4: this woman. And I found myself on the third, fourth,

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Speaker 4: twenty fifth, twenty seventh time watching this video saying, man,

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Speaker 4: I wish this had gone one second different where maybe

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Speaker 4: he's not in front of the car, and maybe she

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Speaker 4: gets away, or maybe she thinks better of hitting him

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Speaker 4: and decides to actually comply. That would be a good idea,

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Speaker 4: all kinds of ways where this could go differently. But

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Speaker 4: it's the height of counterproductive for those of us who

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Speaker 4: are not cops to sit here and mouth off about

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Speaker 4: what cops ought to do. Now, there are some cases.

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Speaker 4: There was the case out of South Carolina. You know,

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Speaker 4: there was a and of course it's a black guy

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Speaker 4: and a white cop, because of course in South Carolina,

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Speaker 4: so that's helpful. And the black guy's running away, white

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Speaker 4: cop just shoots him running away. That white cop is

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Speaker 4: in jail right now, where he should be. And I

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Speaker 4: had a ton of cops to I didn't need cops

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Speaker 4: to tell me that's a bad shooting. I don't need

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Speaker 4: cops to tell me that this one is justified. But

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Speaker 4: I have them. I have them, and I'm listening to them,

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Speaker 4: and we're listening to you. At eight eight eight nine

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Speaker 4: seven one sage eight eight eight nine seven to one

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Speaker 4: seven two four three, we are in San Diego, Lewis,

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Speaker 4: Mark Davis, welcome.

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Speaker 10: Hi.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, they gave that girl specific directions in Minnesota.

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Speaker 16: They told her to get out of the car, and

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Speaker 16: she did not comply. Therefore it's all justified.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is I mean it's it's a Larry Elder line.

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Speaker 4: Did he coin it or is he simply popularized it.

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Speaker 4: If you comply, you won't die. If you comply, you

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Speaker 4: will not die. So I mean, and and by the way,

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Speaker 4: every failure to comply, you know, it shouldn't exactly And

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Speaker 4: I appreciate your brevity and clarity, Lewis not every thwarting

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Speaker 4: of a police wish, you know, should get you shot.

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Speaker 4: Got show me some id no bo I mean, we're

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Speaker 4: not talking about that. The deadly force here came with

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Speaker 4: the an answer to the deadly force, the perceived deadly

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Speaker 4: force on the part of the officer, the perceived deadly

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Speaker 4: force of the vehicle, the perceived deadly force, and it's

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Speaker 4: kind of funny. Let's also hone down and talk a

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Speaker 4: little bit about the questions that are being asked and

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Speaker 4: the things that are being discussed. As I said, a

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Speaker 4: lot of people are asking, you know, did he have

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Speaker 4: to shoot her? That's not the question, because I'll quite

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Speaker 4: frankly tell you did he have to? Probably not? But

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Speaker 4: was he justified in doing it? Absolutely so. There's a

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Speaker 4: window of acceptability outside that window. It's like the guy,

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Speaker 4: you know, chasing the guy shooting him from the back,

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Speaker 4: running away from a traffic stop. That is clearly not

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Speaker 4: a good shoot A guy with a machete running out

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Speaker 4: a cop saying I'm gonna kill you, that is one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent certainly a totally good shoot in. There will

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Speaker 4: always be this nether world in between of shootings that

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Speaker 4: really look bad. The that's been the term that's been

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Speaker 4: coined is lawful but awful. This looks like one of those.

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Speaker 4: Mark Davis and v Lario will be right there.

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Speaker 7: A flame in you.

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Speaker 4: Our final segment in our first hour together, Mark Davis

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Speaker 4: in for Laria again, Kurt Schlickter of town Hall commentary fame,

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Speaker 4: and a case I'll fill in work around here just

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Speaker 4: like me. They'll be joining us at the top of

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Speaker 4: the next hour. That'll be a quick visit and then

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Speaker 4: it'll be right back on the phones with you. And

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Speaker 4: maybe there's something I say, something Kurt says, something you read,

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Speaker 4: something you see that sparks a thought in you. And

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Speaker 4: that's kind of what we're doing to wrap up the

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Speaker 4: week here in America. Eight eight eight nine seven to

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Speaker 4: one stage eight eight eight nine seven one seven two

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Speaker 4: four three. Let us head back to and I'll be

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Speaker 4: honest with you. I've been to Minnesota a few times,

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Speaker 4: been to Minneapolis and Saint Paul. I was there in

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Speaker 4: two thousand and eight for the Republican Convention, the McCain

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Speaker 4: Sarah Palin Convention, remember that I do and met the

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Speaker 4: most wonderful people, and it was a wonderful community. And

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Speaker 4: it was September when it's one hundred and forty degrees

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Speaker 4: here in North Texas and it was like eighty every day,

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Speaker 4: and I loved it. And it's a beautiful state filled

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Speaker 4: with beautiful people and it's run by idiots, and y'all

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Speaker 4: deserve better. Let's go to Saint Paul Mitch Mark Davison

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Speaker 4: for Larry, how are you?

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Speaker 13: I don't know that we do deserve better with our

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Speaker 13: voting history, To be honest with you, it started with

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Speaker 13: the Jesse guy, and it's been all down.

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Speaker 4: The Ventura you know, Jesse, Jesse, Ventura weighed in. Even

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Speaker 4: even Jesse former governor Ventura weighed in the other day

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Speaker 4: on the predictably wrong side. But the floor is yours.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead.

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Speaker 13: He's never he's never seen a Camry doesn't lake, So

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Speaker 13: I'm not going to start now. But my only point

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Speaker 13: was this, Uh, the Minnesotans are taking our state back.

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Speaker 13: When Chauvin started all this, we were all with the

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Speaker 13: people of color, and frankly, he got.

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Speaker 15: What he deserved.

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Speaker 13: Regardless of what some of the people are saying about

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Speaker 13: his training.

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Speaker 9: He was.

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Speaker 13: He was off face there and we call it.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, just a quick word. I think I think

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Speaker 4: that was not a good day of police work. I

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Speaker 4: do not, for one minute believe that he is a murderer.

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Speaker 4: I believe that was a misguided prosecution. We may differ

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Speaker 4: on that, but.

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Speaker 13: Going I'll agree with you, there will agree to disagree.

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Speaker 13: I think he could have handled it differently and should have.

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Speaker 4: I have people, but hang on, you do you think

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Speaker 4: he is Do you think he's a murderer? Officers? Show that?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 4: No, okay, mother, all right, okay, get sixty seconds go,

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Speaker 4: I'll stay out of your way. Go ahead, take us out.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, no problem. I just wanted to say that this

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Speaker 13: girl wasn't from Minnesota.

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Speaker 15: Okay.

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Speaker 13: I haven't seen people of color at any of the

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Speaker 13: riots or whatever they're calling these vigils. I know, and frankly,

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Speaker 13: I always follow the minorities in this one. If they

655
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Speaker 13: feel it's wrong, I'll go down with them. And I

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Speaker 13: haven't seen any of them.

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Speaker 4: That's a that's a terrible idea. That is a bitch.

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Speaker 4: I love you and thanks for the call. What a

659
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Speaker 4: horrible way to live life. Well, if people of color

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Speaker 4: think it's wrong, I'm in. By the way. If so,

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Speaker 4: you're walking around going with all the white people think

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Speaker 4: it's right, I'm in.

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Speaker 16: No.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, here's a crazy idea. Think for yourself.

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Speaker 4: If you think for yourself and follow objective standards of

666
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Speaker 4: what is right, what is wrong, what is legal, what

667
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Speaker 4: is illegal? What makes sense and what doesn't from your

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Speaker 4: own well informed brain, then it doesn't matter what color

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Speaker 4: anybody is, because you've made up your own mind, Mark Davison,

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Speaker 4: for Larry will be right back me.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to set for work.

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Speaker 1: While, so let's get her teed up up.

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Speaker 17: Off to.

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Speaker 3: With that subdigo from Dallas, Texas. Here's the sage brush,

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Speaker 3: Mark Davis.

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Speaker 4: It is our number two of the Friday Larry Elder Show.

677
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Speaker 4: And what Larry would be doing if he were here,

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Speaker 4: and he'll return on Monday, and I'll return anytime they

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Speaker 4: ask me. Much appreciate it. I'm the happy morning host

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Speaker 4: at six sixty am the answer in Dallas Fort Worth.

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Speaker 4: But if Larry were here, he would be adding his

682
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Speaker 4: very special perspective to sort of tying a bow around

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Speaker 4: the week's events, and maybe some of it would be venezuela,

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Speaker 4: and maybe some of it would be you know, are

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Speaker 4: we about to have greenland? And by the way, there's

686
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Speaker 4: room for plenty of that. We got two more hours

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Speaker 4: to go, and I have a feeling I'll go a

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Speaker 4: little more multi topic here in just a little bit,

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Speaker 4: but for right now, if you want to join us

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Speaker 4: at eight eight eight nine, seven to one stage. We

691
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Speaker 4: just spent the first hour talking a lot about what

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Speaker 4: I've called the micro and the macro, the very minute,

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Speaker 4: detailed look at the video, frame by frame, what happened

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Speaker 4: kind of discussion, and also sort of the macro, the

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Speaker 4: societal heck with thirty thousand foot the two hundred, the

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Speaker 4: international space station view, looking down at our country, looking

697
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Speaker 4: down at our world, this world where people blinded by

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Speaker 4: Trump hatred, blinded by political bigotry can see things with

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Speaker 4: their own eyes and process them through what's left of

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Speaker 4: their own brains and come up with conclusions that are

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Speaker 4: still one hundred percent gas lighting. And listen, that doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean that everybody has to be as ardent in finding

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Speaker 4: this shooting justifiable as I do. But on on the

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Speaker 4: spectrum of acceptable shootings. Where as I said last hour,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna use this again. You got somebody running away

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Speaker 4: from you after a traffic stop, cop shoots him dead,

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Speaker 4: which actually happened. He's in jail, should be bad shooting.

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Speaker 4: On the other side of the of the spectrum, an

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Speaker 4: obvious good shooting, somebody's rushing at a cop with a

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Speaker 4: knife saying I'm gonna kill you, you pig. That guy gets shot.

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Speaker 4: We one hundred percent know that's a good shooting. Of course,

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Speaker 4: this one lies in the middle. Of course, we can

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Speaker 4: take a look at that and go, oh, if only,

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Speaker 4: if only, and did he have to do this? And

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Speaker 4: was it one hundred percent necessary? That's not the question.

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Speaker 4: The question is was it justifiable in that situation in

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Speaker 4: his eyes, his mind and by the way his experience.

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Speaker 4: Dude got drag fifty or one hundred feet late last year,

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Speaker 4: and there are those who would say, oh, that makes

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Speaker 4: it he shouldn't have been allowed back on the force.

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Speaker 4: I think that gives him a particularly sharp eye and

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Speaker 4: a particularly informed stance on what can happen when this

723
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Speaker 4: atmosphere gets as insane as it has bursting through the

724
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Speaker 4: insanity from his town Hall column and both in nonfiction

725
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Speaker 4: and fiction. Author of the Great Kelly Turnbull series of novels,

726
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Speaker 4: My friend, my favorite columnist, Kurt Schlicker, Welcome, sir. Let's

727
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Speaker 4: unpack this. How you do in sir?

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Speaker 7: Hey do it great?

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you what your thoughts are. We haven't spoken.

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Speaker 4: We talked just the other day, but we haven't talked

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Speaker 4: since since this video. What does this video do? What

732
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Speaker 4: does it not do? How did it strike you?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's been obviously. Look here's how this all goes down.

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Speaker 6: Step one. They attempt to redefine the law of self defense.

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Speaker 6: The law of self defense is well established. It's not hard.

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Speaker 6: It is hundreds of years old. It's very easy to

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Speaker 6: apply it as a subjective test based on does the

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Speaker 6: person reasonably believe they are in danger of a significant

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Speaker 6: physical harm. If they are, they can use steadily force

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Speaker 6: to protect themselves. That's the law that that's how it works,

741
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Speaker 6: has as it's been applied. It's been applied against automobiles

742
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Speaker 6: versus humans many times.

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Speaker 7: None of this is new.

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Speaker 6: So that didn't work out so good because you know,

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Speaker 6: the facts that they had were pretty bad. You had

746
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Speaker 6: this idiotic woman to accelerated a vehicle at the cop,

747
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Speaker 6: hit the cop, and yes, it struck him. So instead

748
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Speaker 6: of so, when they figured out they couldn't change the law,

749
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Speaker 6: they decided they would change the facts. So they would

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Speaker 6: either mischaracterize what the facts were or deny the facts. No,

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Speaker 6: they didn't hit him with a car, or minimize them.

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Speaker 6: Why they hit him with a car but only winged him. Now,

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Speaker 6: of course, the law doesn't say you have to be

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Speaker 6: hit by the car the law. Believe the law requires

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Speaker 6: that you believe you'd be in danger. And excuse me,

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Speaker 6: a car versus human being, as somebody who's litigated cases

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Speaker 6: involving cars versus human beings for thirty years, that can

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Speaker 6: be really, really ugly. The law is very clear a

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Speaker 6: car is a threat. If you're driving at someone, you

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Speaker 6: can use deadly force. So when that didn't work either,

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Speaker 6: when they couldn't change the facts because we kept getting

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Speaker 6: new video out, they went into, well, we're just going

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Speaker 6: to deny them. Well, he was never hit by the car.

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Speaker 6: It never happened. None of this ever happened. And when

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Speaker 6: that didn't work, because normal people are going, what I'm

766
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Speaker 6: what they got to insulting you while you're a monstrous racist,

767
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Speaker 6: you're a coward. If you're afraid of being hit by

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Speaker 6: a car, you're a bad person for thinking this. In

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Speaker 6: the law, they say, if you lawyers say, well, if

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Speaker 6: you've got the law, pound on the law. If you've

771
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 6: got the facts, pound on the facts. If you don't

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Speaker 6: have the law or the facts, you pound on the table.

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Speaker 6: That's essentially what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: So in this table pounding exercise that we've seen in

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Speaker 4: Beautiful establishing of the landscape. Let me ask you, really,

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Speaker 4: for the first time, we've talked about the minutia the

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Speaker 4: Zapruder film, frame by frame. It's obvious to me, it's

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Speaker 4: obvious to you. It's clearly not obvious to everybody. What

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Speaker 4: is the where are we in society now where we

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Speaker 4: have an entire political party? Is John Fetterman the only

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Speaker 4: Democrat saying, hey, maybe we don't need to be demonizing

782
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Speaker 4: the cops. Is that Chicago police official Chicago, good for them?

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Speaker 4: The only guy saying, you know, if you box them in,

784
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Speaker 4: bad things might happen. Have you seen the Philadelphia sheriff

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Speaker 4: who said, say her name, I can't even speak the

786
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Speaker 4: President's name. That criminal. This is I've been alive even

787
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Speaker 4: a little longer than you. This is as crazy as

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Speaker 4: I've ever seen it.

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Speaker 6: Well, look, she's a d the Philadelphia police chase a

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Speaker 6: d I hire. She's an obese moron who has only

791
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Speaker 6: a glancing familiarity with her alleged job. But you know,

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Speaker 6: in communist countries, Mark, one of the phenomenon you notice

793
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Speaker 6: is people would sit there and they would affirm things

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Speaker 6: everyone knew was false. This is the most prosperous country

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Speaker 6: in the world. They would tell each other and then

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Speaker 6: they go home and have their half turn up for dinner.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: This is common on the left when they it's not

799
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Speaker 6: about the truth, it doesn't matter. Okay, we could resurrect

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Speaker 6: this deceased poet and we could have her under oath

801
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Speaker 6: on videotape record. Yes, I drove directly at the police

802
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Speaker 6: officer and I intended to run him over and kill him.

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Speaker 6: And they would not believe it because it because they

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Speaker 6: would choose not to believe it. These people have within

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Speaker 6: their hive mind the act of affirming something they know

806
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 6: is false is an act of solidarity. Okay, it's part

807
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Speaker 6: by doing so. It's like when they get up and say, why, yes,

808
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 6: trans women are women. Now they know they're not women.

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00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 6: We all know that, but it doesn't matter. By sacrificing

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00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 6: their dignity, their integrity, and their self respect, by saying

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Speaker 6: something that they know is a lie and everyone else

812
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 6: knows a lie and everyone knows they're lying, they show

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Speaker 6: Sola Derek. It's a sacrifice to their pagan commy gods.

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Speaker 4: There's a question that it seems rhetorical, but it's not.

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Speaker 4: How many more people are going to die before folks

816
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Speaker 4: wrecked because I gotta tell you, there were protests in

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Speaker 4: Dallas last night. I watched the local news coverage of it,

818
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 4: and people saying, we don't have a democracy. I'm going

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Speaker 4: to get out. And there was one guy they found

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Speaker 4: in Minneapolis saying, I don't even have a gun permit,

821
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Speaker 4: but I'm going to show up and I'm armed. How

822
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 4: many more of these idiots are going to die before

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Speaker 4: Darwin's rule kicked in of natural selection? And I really

824
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 4: don't mean to be flippant about this, but how many people,

825
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 4: very seriously are going to die before somebody gets the

826
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Speaker 4: message that maybe this ice hating demonstrative per formative game

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Speaker 4: is not wise.

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Speaker 6: Well, hundreds of people died in the low grade insurgency

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Speaker 6: we had in the late sixties early seventies. I mean

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Speaker 6: a lot of people forget, but you know, cops are

831
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 6: getting murdered, there were shootouts, there were bombings all over

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Speaker 6: the place.

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Speaker 4: You had riots.

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Speaker 6: We had a low grade insurgency. We treated it as

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Speaker 6: a crime wave, but it was a low grade insurgency.

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Speaker 6: We're not quite there yet, but it could absolutely happen.

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Speaker 6: You have a bunch of empty people without souls who

838
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 6: fill up that space that should be faith family in

839
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Speaker 6: the flag, and they fill it up with their commy gobbledygook,

840
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Speaker 6: as Norm MacDonald would call it. And they are willing

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Speaker 6: to kill for it. And if they're willing to kill,

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00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 6: they're going to put themselves in the line of fire

843
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 6: as willing to die. The difference is people are more

844
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Speaker 6: aware of it, and we have a president who you know,

845
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Speaker 6: in the seven sixties and seventies, they kind of wanted

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Speaker 6: this to just go away. Not so now this is

847
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Speaker 6: where we're gonna confront this because we're not going to

848
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 6: let our society change in the manner they want. So

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Speaker 6: if they were to fight, they're going to get it.

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00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 6: So it is different to be with an incident last night,

851
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Speaker 6: bore Gang tried to run over some ice agents. They

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Speaker 6: got shot. They're lucky to be alive.

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Speaker 4: Everybody should take a look at what Kurt Schlichter is riding,

854
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: clock is calling. I'm so grateful, appreciate it. Kurt's going

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Speaker 4: to be riding No, no, you'll please, are you're kidding me?

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00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: I'd go forever. It's Kirt Schlichter on Exit Kirschlichter and

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00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 4: read everything he does at town hall dot com. Kurt,

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Speaker 4: Thank you appreciate it. When we come back, Why won't

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Speaker 4: the FBI let the locals into this investigation?

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Speaker 7: Be right back coming to you live from the Relief

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Speaker 7: Factor Studio, the Larry Elder Show, One.

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Speaker 4: Gets Tough, Tough kid going, Mark Gavison, Flarry Elder. As

863
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Speaker 4: I've said, I'm the morning host at six sixty A

864
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Speaker 4: and the answer here in Dallas Fort Worth and the

865
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Speaker 4: I pretty well fill in for everybody, guy, which means

866
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Speaker 4: you'll see or hear me all over the platform. And

867
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Speaker 4: I'm very, very grateful, great to be with you here

868
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Speaker 4: this afternoon slash evening depending on your time zone, here

869
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Speaker 4: on the Salem Radio Network and Salem News Channel. Thanks

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00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: so much for being here so as we get ready

871
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 4: to go back to your calls, as we unpack the

872
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 4: events of the last few days, the last few hours

873
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Speaker 4: with the new video from the perspective of the officer

874
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Speaker 4: who fired on renee Good. One of the things you'll

875
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Speaker 4: hear people whining about up there in the Land of

876
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Speaker 4: ten Thousand Lakes, the Minnesultans, some of them are saying,

877
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Speaker 4: you know, the FBI will not let the local authorities

878
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: be part of this investigation. Why is the FBI. Why

879
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 4: is Trump's FBI shutting out the local constabulary? What are

880
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 4: they trying to hide? What kind of actor they into?

881
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Speaker 4: So my favorite thing is for the federal government and

882
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 4: local authorities, especially in matters of law enforcement, for them

883
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 4: to get along, for them to cooperate. That has not

884
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Speaker 4: been happening forever. In the People's Republic of Frozen Minnesota,

885
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Speaker 4: Governor Tim Walls, this punk mayor in Minneapolis, Jacob Fry,

886
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Speaker 4: anybody else in and I'm back the blue God blessed cops.

887
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 4: But you know they can be corrupted to especially politically.

888
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Speaker 4: And there's a guy named Bob Jacobson who is the

889
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Speaker 4: head of the Minnesota Department of Public Safety, and he

890
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Speaker 4: was mouthed off the other day. He very accommodatingly said,

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Speaker 4: I don't mind ICE being here, I don't mind the

892
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Speaker 4: Department of Homeland Security being here, but I have some

893
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Speaker 4: concerns about the way that they're going about what they do.

894
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Speaker 4: And listen, if he does, then maybe you take that

895
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Speaker 4: up with them behind closed doors, or if you're going

896
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Speaker 4: to do it publicly, if you're going to vent, then

897
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: maybe you say here are the specific things that we'd

898
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Speaker 4: like to have them change. He didn't do that. It

899
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Speaker 4: was it was just a grudge. So if this and listen,

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Speaker 4: rank and file on the street, cops from Minneapolis to

901
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Speaker 4: Saint Paul, to Bloomington, to International Falls to Duluth are

902
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Speaker 4: filled with I'm guessing the same kind of cops that

903
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Speaker 4: you find here in Texas or wherever you are, good

904
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Speaker 4: solid men and women, and all they want to do

905
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Speaker 4: is protect and serve and God bless them. That's why

906
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Speaker 4: I'm backed the Blue till I die. But running these departments,

907
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Speaker 4: in management positions in these departments could very well be

908
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Speaker 4: a swamp of political treachery that has in its mind

909
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Speaker 4: subverting this investigation and rendering it unfair biased away from

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Speaker 4: federal law enforcement because maybe they've gotten kind of a

911
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 4: bug up there butt about law enforcement. Anyway, So while

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Speaker 4: this did happen on the streets of Minneapolis, while this

913
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Speaker 4: did happen, they're on the land of the state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: In no way in this federal law enforcement matter involving

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Speaker 4: a federal officer, federal immigration enforcement, in no way is

916
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Speaker 4: there some automatic entitlement for the locals. You know, for

917
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Speaker 4: Minneapolis Barney Fife to be involved in this investigation, I

918
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Speaker 4: would love, and I'll tell you listen, is there good

919
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Speaker 4: could they could? And by the way, if the FBI

920
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Speaker 4: needs something from the locals, they'll ask. And I wonder

921
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Speaker 4: if the locals will reply. Last thing before you go

922
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Speaker 4: back to your calls. It takes it almost takes a

923
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Speaker 4: particular type of nerve. It takes gall for the people

924
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Speaker 4: in this state of Minnesota who have thwarted and maligned

925
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Speaker 4: and smeared the Trump administration Department of Homeland Security, Immigrations

926
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Speaker 4: and Customs Enforcement, and now all of a sudden they

927
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Speaker 4: wonder why they are not being courted as partners in

928
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Speaker 4: the investigation. One wonders or or actually one does not wonder,

929
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Speaker 4: all right, eight eight nine seven one stage. What I'm

930
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Speaker 4: wondering about is what's on your mind? Let's go there.

931
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Speaker 4: But we're doing a lot of business up there in Minneapolis,

932
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Speaker 4: Saint Paul, where we deeply, deeply appreciate up up there

933
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Speaker 4: on the Patriot folks listening up there and watching wherever

934
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Speaker 4: you may be on the Salem News Channel. We are

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Speaker 4: in Minneapolis, and Garrett, Mark Davison, V. Larry, Welcome to

936
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Speaker 4: the Friday Show.

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Speaker 10: Hi, Hey, how are you doing?

938
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Speaker 5: Happy Friday?

939
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Speaker 4: And thanks you know.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, So I saw the video.

941
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Speaker 18: The new video that Alpha News released Liz Collins from

942
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Speaker 18: Alpha News and the poor I mean the agent, so

943
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Speaker 18: the agents phone. He actually went around Renee a Goods

944
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Speaker 18: car one time and fill like showed her license plate

945
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Speaker 18: and she's not from Minnesota, and he went background and

946
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Speaker 18: was in front of the car. Yeah, and it's like

947
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Speaker 18: it's you can tell front it was self defense. She

948
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Speaker 18: definitely went towards him with the car and you can

949
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Speaker 18: tell that he's definitely got grounds for self defense. And

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Speaker 18: I will have to say one more thing. The cops

951
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Speaker 18: in Minneapolis and Saint Paul, there's some good ones, but

952
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Speaker 18: they also have some crooked ones too. I mean you

953
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Speaker 18: go down, you know, to the cities, you have your

954
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Speaker 18: good ones down like I lived down by man Cato

955
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Speaker 18: and Blue Earth County and they have great cops to

956
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Speaker 18: actually do their jobs.

957
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Speaker 4: So it's well, it's in Garrett. Well yeah, in Garret,

958
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Speaker 4: thank you. It depends on where you are anywhere. But

959
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Speaker 4: I will tell you from a big city like Minnesota

960
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Speaker 4: to a small town like you know, like any northern

961
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Speaker 4: hinterland there in Minnesota, to anywhere in my state of

962
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Speaker 4: Texas or anywhere else it's a human system that you're

963
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Speaker 4: going to have cops who are good and bad. You're

964
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Speaker 4: going to have cops who are talented and inept. You're

965
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Speaker 4: going to have cops who are are of sound mind,

966
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Speaker 4: and those who are not. It's a human system. I

967
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 4: will tell you that those who are a problem, those

968
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Speaker 4: who shouldn't be cops, Nobody wants to find them more

969
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Speaker 4: than the good cops. Nobody wants to find them more

970
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Speaker 4: than the honest brokers of back the blue. As I've said,

971
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Speaker 4: I am mister back the blue. In this case of

972
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Speaker 4: the South Carolina officer who ran the guy down and

973
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Speaker 4: shot him in the back, I was the first guy

974
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Speaker 4: calling for this guy to be prosecuted because I hold

975
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Speaker 4: police work in such high regard, because it is vital

976
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Speaker 4: to me that we have this bond of trust, and

977
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Speaker 4: because there are people, there are men and women who

978
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Speaker 4: put on a uniform and on any given day they

979
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Speaker 4: might die. And it's funny speaking of who died in

980
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Speaker 4: this of all the people that were saying, well, maybe

981
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: why didn't he just try to shoot out the tires

982
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: like that's gonna work from the front, or why didn't

983
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 4: he just you know, step out of the way again,

984
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 4: I'll probably have to say this nine or ten times

985
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 4: during today's show. I think this is time number five.

986
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 4: He didn't have the luxury that we have had of

987
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: looking at this on mega slow motion. When do the

988
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 4: wheels turn in? What direction do they go? At? What

989
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 4: point does he draw? It happened? That's it in that

990
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 4: span of time, in that finger snap. Did he have

991
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 4: a rational reasonably that his life was in danger or

992
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: there could be again, as Kurt Schlicker pointed out, either

993
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 4: death or serious bodily harm. Was that on the table

994
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 4: reasonably for him? Did he have a reason to believe

995
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: that he absolutely did? He absolutely did. Does that mean

996
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 4: the shooting was perfect? Does that mean it was one

997
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: thousand percent necessary? That's rarely gonna be the question. It's

998
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 4: was he justified?

999
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 9: Yes?

1000
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 19: He was?

1001
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 4: Agree or disagreed? Glad to talk to you eight eight

1002
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 4: eight nine seven to one, Sage, Mark Davison, Filarry be

1003
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 4: right back Mark Davison v. Larry on this Friday, And

1004
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 4: as we head into the weekend, I hope your weekend

1005
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 4: is filled with blessings. And it's been a lot of

1006
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 4: it's been very heavy and difficult, and I hear in

1007
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 4: the new Year. I just hope that your holidays went

1008
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: great and that this new year is filled with all

1009
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: kinds of great things for us to focus on. I obviously,

1010
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to keep track of all of this

1011
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 4: over the weekend, and I'm glad to do that because

1012
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 4: I got them. Oh by the way, along these platforms,

1013
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 4: my weekend has been heavily curtailed by a couple of things.

1014
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 4: First of all, this, so I'm glad I enjoy this,

1015
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 4: and I also enjoy getting up in the middle of

1016
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Speaker 4: the night to do the Christigall program. So not only

1017
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 4: do I get to take you into the weekend, I

1018
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: get to bring you out of it. Filling in for

1019
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 4: Christigall at six in the morning Eastern five o'clock my time,

1020
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: three o'clock in the morning on the West Coast. I

1021
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 4: don't even know what's going on there, but I'll be

1022
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: there with you on the Christagall Show. So I have

1023
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 4: a feeling a few things will be said about this

1024
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 4: in that wasteland that is the Sunday talk shows. How

1025
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 4: are meet the press, face the nation? Oh my gosh,

1026
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 4: how are they gonna handle this? However they do, We'll

1027
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: handle it all, and I'll see you early early, early

1028
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 4: early Monday morning or maybe late Sunday night. However, you viel,

1029
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 4: what's the old song? I haven't been up this early

1030
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 4: since I was out this late. Anyway, there you go.

1031
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 4: I'm in for Christigall on Monday, but in Filarry right now.

1032
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 4: And let's return to the calls on the Larry Older

1033
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Speaker 4: Show where the numbers eight eight eight nine seven one

1034
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Speaker 4: stage eight eight eight nine seven one seven two four three,

1035
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Speaker 4: and we are in uh Indiana, I believe, Bonnie Hi,

1036
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Speaker 4: Mark Davis welcome. Speaking of Indiana, I'm gonna get out

1037
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: of here and go watch those Hoosiers and see if

1038
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 4: they can dispatch Oregon and get into the national championship

1039
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 4: against Miami, who pulled it out against old miss fun Games.

1040
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: Nice to have you, ma'am. How are you.

1041
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 9: Good?

1042
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 20: And I love this show. I have a question for

1043
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 20: all these ben experts. How many have faced down somebody

1044
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 20: just walking at you with a service revolver pointed at you?

1045
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 9: What would you do?

1046
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 4: And I know some people are saying it, well, okay,

1047
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 4: please go ahead, please share.

1048
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Speaker 20: I had a Okay, I had an ex husband that

1049
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Speaker 20: did that to me, and luckily I had to get

1050
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Speaker 20: in the car with me, and I pulled up and

1051
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Speaker 20: started shooting. I shot over his head because he knew

1052
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Speaker 20: I was a better shot than him. But you know,

1053
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Speaker 20: after that he was kind of nice. But I divorced him,

1054
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Speaker 20: got away from him.

1055
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Speaker 4: Probably.

1056
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Speaker 20: I was also the second woman to apply to the

1057
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Speaker 20: state police in Indiana.

1058
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Speaker 7: Really, but yes, did did you?

1059
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Speaker 4: Did you succeed? Were you? Were you a state police

1060
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Speaker 4: officer in the who's your state?

1061
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Speaker 20: No? My eyes didn't come up to standards.

1062
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Speaker 16: Oh you met.

1063
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Speaker 4: We may, we may, we may have arrived at a

1064
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Speaker 4: talk show topic. You sound great, you sound smart, you

1065
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Speaker 4: sound able? What's what standard? What standard was problematic?

1066
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Speaker 21: What?

1067
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Speaker 20: I'm sorry, what do you mean?

1068
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Speaker 4: What standard? What? What was?

1069
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Speaker 13: You have to have?

1070
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Speaker 20: Twenty twenty visions?

1071
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Speaker 22: And my eyes was only.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, gotcha? Was there a well let me tell

1073
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Speaker 4: you where I was kind of going here because I

1074
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Speaker 4: know there are all kinds of women doing amazing jobs

1075
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Speaker 4: in law enforcement. We talk about women in the military,

1076
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Speaker 4: which I think is a completely different issue. Women firefighters,

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Speaker 4: and that gets kind of interesting because can you or

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Speaker 4: can you not carry one hundred and fifty pound hose

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Speaker 4: or a two hundred pound guy. I was wondering if

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Speaker 4: there was something in the physical requirements that became an issue.

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Speaker 20: But no, it was my eyes.

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Speaker 4: Gotcha.

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Speaker 20: Well, I want to tell you first, I'm eighty three

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Speaker 20: years old. I spent Yeah, I spent seven and a

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Speaker 20: half years in Alaska early in the mid sixties and

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Speaker 20: early seventies. The population and it's only like two hundred

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Speaker 20: thousand people, yep. And if you went out in the woods,

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Speaker 20: ang where you had to carry a high powered rifle.

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Speaker 20: So I.

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Speaker 4: Well, I hope the hope the vision was crisp when

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Speaker 4: you were dispatching shells out of that rifle. Bonnie, thank you,

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Speaker 4: God bless you go. Hoosiers appreciate it very much. Not

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Speaker 4: to get angry calls from Oregon. I really have no

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Speaker 4: great dog in the hunt. Cinderellas are always fun. It

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Speaker 4: was Ole Miss. I did a lot of talk shows

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Speaker 4: in Memphis from nineteen eighty five to ninety. We carried

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Speaker 4: Ole Miss Rebels football on the Mighty WHBQ when I

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Speaker 4: worked there in the late eighties. That's a heck of

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Speaker 4: an environment and what a Trinidad Chambliss is one of

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Speaker 4: the great sports names of all time. But I got

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Speaker 4: to tell you that Carson Beck just about walking it

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Speaker 4: in for Miami at the end. What an amazing game, Tay,

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Speaker 4: what let's do. Let's just say I hope it's a

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Speaker 4: great game. And I think there are a few NFL

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Speaker 4: playoff games this weekend as well, so I hope it's

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Speaker 4: filled with faith and family and football as we head

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Speaker 4: into the weekend. Before we're done with this week though,

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Speaker 4: more of your calls next, Mark Davis and for Larry

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Speaker 4: Elder eight eight eight nine seven one stage eight eight

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Speaker 4: eight nine seven one seven three follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 4: at Mark Davis. We'll continue to be right with you,

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Speaker 4: come money. So if you want to immerse yourself in

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Speaker 4: my social media world, and I can't imagine why you

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Speaker 4: would not on Twitter, on X at Mark Davis, m

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Speaker 4: A R. K. Davis, and I've really become here, at

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Speaker 4: the age of sixty eight, quite the social media maven.

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Speaker 4: On other platforms. So there's Mark Davis Show on Instagram,

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Speaker 4: Mark Davis Show on Facebook. I've even decided to let

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Speaker 4: the Chinese track me on TikTok because hey, you know,

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Speaker 4: whatever attracts attention to the show, Mark Davis Show on

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Speaker 4: all those other realms. So thanks, and I throw a

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Speaker 4: little excerpt up every day, and it's just all part

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Speaker 4: of the great thrill of working here in Salem, Land.

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Speaker 4: We're here on the Salem News Channel and on the

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Speaker 4: Salem Radio Network right now. It's the Larry Elder Show,

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Speaker 4: wrapping up the week. Larry's back on Monday, but I'm

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Speaker 4: here now. Mark Davis, high glad you're here. Eight eight

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Speaker 4: eight nine, seven to one stage. Let us roll down

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Speaker 4: to the Tampa Bay area in Florida. We are in

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Speaker 4: Pinellas County. We're in Clearwater, Mike, Mark Davis in for Larry.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 21: How are you? Mark?

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Speaker 4: So good?

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Speaker 21: Thanks things. One thing that's not being talked about to

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Speaker 21: me that's very disturbing is that the local cops refuse

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Speaker 21: to back up or help ice.

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Speaker 4: Now, okay, stop stop stop stopping, careful, careful. How by

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Speaker 4: refuse to back them up? What do you mean?

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Speaker 21: Well, didn't they say that when they requested reinforcements to

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Speaker 21: help them with the operation, the local police or the sheriff,

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Speaker 21: I can't remember who it was now, But didn't they

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Speaker 21: not send anybody like I'm thought.

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Speaker 4: Not aware of that, not aware, not aware of that

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Speaker 4: in the least that tends that on a fairly I

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Speaker 4: mean nothing is routine these days. But this was an

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Speaker 4: operation being undertaken by Ice, and it's not some joint

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Speaker 4: collaboration between the FEDS and the locals. So as for

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Speaker 4: some narrative where I said, you know, reached out and

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Speaker 4: asked the Minneapolis police for assistance, that they were refused,

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Speaker 4: I just don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 21: Like you said earlier, the lady in Philadelphia, I guess,

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Speaker 21: I don't know, you know, But the fact that there's

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Speaker 21: you know, people in law enforcement that are, you know,

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Speaker 21: agreeing with these crazy people. A perfect example the incident

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Speaker 21: with the gentleman who threw the sandwich at the cop.

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Speaker 21: It was right there on video. What do they do

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Speaker 21: they acquit him? Oh, he's not guilty.

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Speaker 4: That's absolutely I know, Mike. Thanks appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 4: As for as for I appreciate it, let's talk about

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Speaker 4: the locals. The Philadelphia sheriff, this this lady, and I

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Speaker 4: used the term looselie say her name, like apologizing for

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Speaker 4: all law enforcement, and I'd say, if you try that here,

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Speaker 4: that that criminal in the White House, I I can't

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Speaker 4: even say his name. What this kind of active, this

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Speaker 4: kind of of pinheaded activism wrapped in the uniform of

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Speaker 4: law enforcement. What is what the heck is going on

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Speaker 4: in Philly? And of course we've had multiple opportunities to

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Speaker 4: ask this week, what in the world is going on

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Speaker 4: in Minnesota? As this sad and tragic and horrible story unfolded,

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Speaker 4: there was Jacob Fry, the mayor, get the f out

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Speaker 4: of our city. There was the governor saying, you know,

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Speaker 4: don't believe the propaganda. Oh no, no, no, believe me, believe me,

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Speaker 4: Tim Wall said. The people who have called this officer

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Speaker 4: a murderer and this is this is a funny Schitzo

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Speaker 4: kind of moment. We demand a thorough, a complete, and

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Speaker 4: fair investigation. We want to probe into this. We want

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Speaker 4: an investigation. Everybody wants an investigation. There should be an investigation.

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Speaker 4: There will be an investigation. But some people seem to

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Speaker 4: have filed the final report themselves because boom, he's a murderer,

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Speaker 4: because boom, this was a bad shooting. They somehow magically

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Speaker 4: know how in the world does that work? I know

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Speaker 4: how this works. Phone lines eight eight eight nine seven one,

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Speaker 4: stage eight eight eight nine seven one seven two four three.

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Speaker 4: And we are in Parker, Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 4: Bob Mark Davison for Larry Good Friday evening.

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Speaker 22: To you.

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Speaker 9: Him Mark, how are you hi?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 23: I thought i'd mentioned something that might help listeners understand

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Speaker 23: this a little better without rendering an opinion on the shooting.

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Speaker 23: My background is law enforcement in Los Angeles and it's

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Speaker 23: been involved in you plenty of these investigations, and I

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Speaker 23: think I never hear this discuss listening to this hardly

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Speaker 23: with anyone is and have a good or bad shooting

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Speaker 23: and still have a lawful shooting. And the reason I

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Speaker 23: say that is because there's there's two things that are

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Speaker 23: looked at in a shooting. You have the legal investigation,

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Speaker 23: do you have a justified use of force for whatever

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Speaker 23: the outcome is? In this case, it was a death.

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Speaker 23: That's a legal investigation to see if it's lawful. Then

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Speaker 23: you have an administrative investigation to see if what the

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Speaker 23: person involved did fell within the policies of whatever organization

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Speaker 23: he or she works for. And that's the administrative side.

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Speaker 23: So it's entirely possible you could have a bad shooting administratively,

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Speaker 23: but a lawful shooting legally, or in cases you can

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Speaker 23: have a ballid shooting administratively, and yet the courts find

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Speaker 23: that it's unlawful, so it can go all over the place.

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Speaker 4: And isn't that first of all, quick question. First of all,

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Speaker 4: thank you for that really important distinction. Isn't isn't it

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Speaker 4: more likely in one way than the other, because, for example,

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Speaker 4: something that is technically legal, but the police department or

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Speaker 4: in this case, the federal authorities say, okay, it was

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Speaker 4: you didn't run a foul of the law. You're not

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Speaker 4: going to be prosecuted, but it was not a good

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Speaker 4: day of police work for you, and you did violate

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Speaker 4: policy A, B, and C. I can totally see that.

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Speaker 4: In fact, that's exactly what I think should have happened

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Speaker 4: to Derek Chouvan. He is not a murderer, but that

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Speaker 4: was a bad day of police work. So, but traveling

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Speaker 4: in the other direction, isn't I find it hard to

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Speaker 4: imagine that A that a police department would say, hey,

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Speaker 4: everything you did was great, but somebody would get arrested

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Speaker 4: or convicted of something. You follow me.

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Speaker 23: It's rare, but it has happened. Yeah, it has the

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Speaker 23: fact that I've seen cases resurrected five years later mean

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Speaker 23: the Fed's decided during the infamous Rodney King after that

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Speaker 23: it was scorched Thirth. The FEDS literally cut powers to officers'

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Speaker 23: homes when they refused to be interviewed. All kinds of

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Speaker 23: dirty stuff happened. It got so bad that she told

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Speaker 23: them there'll be no cooperation with the FBI, and finally.

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Speaker 13: It slowed down.

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Speaker 24: So it's rare.

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Speaker 23: It is very rare, but it can happen. And one

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Speaker 23: last point, I don't think people realize that, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 23: the knowledge of the person involved at the time what

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Speaker 23: they knew, not all the background of what people.

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Speaker 4: Thank you exactly, Bob, thank you again. We sit here

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Speaker 4: from our extraneous view and say, well, it looks like

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Speaker 4: this to me. Your look there at the wheels and

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Speaker 4: there's the direction, or here's fourteen you know years of history,

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Speaker 4: or here's it's that in that cops head, in that

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Speaker 4: cops mind. Did he have a reason to shoot? That's

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Speaker 4: the only thing that matters. We'll continue Mark Davison Larry

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Speaker 4: on the Salem News Channel along the A Radio Network

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Speaker 4: Today hosted by a grateful guest host Mark Davis Morning

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Speaker 4: Show host at six sixty am. The answer here in

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Speaker 4: Dallas Fort Worth. Glad you're here with us, Glad to

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Speaker 4: be here with you. Eight eight eight nine seven to

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Speaker 4: one Sage. We're going to take that room for a

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Speaker 4: call or too to wrap up this hour. Then we're

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Speaker 4: going to carry everybody through the next hour, where we're

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Speaker 4: going to do something a little executive decision making. It's

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Speaker 4: been a whole lot of Minneapolis, a whole lot of

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Speaker 4: the shooting, a whole lot of societal things which have

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Speaker 4: been great, and I'm not going to stem the tide

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Speaker 4: of any of that. But we did have an interesting

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Speaker 4: day for President Trump with some oil executives on the

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Speaker 4: issue of Venezuela. I'll bring up some things there, and

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Speaker 4: we do have some clips to play and some stuff

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Speaker 4: to visit about, so we'll go genuinely broad and genuinely

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Speaker 4: multi topic in the final hour. Anything is welcome. Glad

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Speaker 4: you're here. Eight eight eight nine seven to one Sage,

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Speaker 4: and we are in listen, paying special attention to people

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Speaker 4: up there in the center of the universe in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 4: John Mark Davis and for Larry, Welcome, how are you doing.

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Speaker 12: Thank you?

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Speaker 17: Yes, it almost seems like we're talking about different videos.

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Speaker 17: The initial video I saw, the way I interpreted it

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Speaker 17: was the officer standing in the right driver's side front

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Speaker 17: of the car, victims car. He proceeds the shoot through

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Speaker 17: the windshield, then casually walks around to the side. The

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Speaker 17: car is just barely moving both in both instances, and

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Speaker 17: he walks around the side and takes another couple of shots.

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Speaker 17: And from what I understand, the victim was receiving contradictory orders.

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Speaker 24: From these ice people get out of the car or

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Speaker 24: move the car.

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Speaker 4: So the thing with that is the thing well, well

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Speaker 4: it was. It was a It was a mess. It

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Speaker 4: was chaotic, no doubt about it. If indeed somebody will

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Speaker 4: say if get out of the car or get out

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Speaker 4: of here, uh, get out of the car, tends to

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Speaker 4: win because if you're choosing get out of here, it

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Speaker 4: will look to the officer saying get out of the

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Speaker 4: car like you're disobeying the order. But here's the one

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Speaker 4: that really puts literally the rubber to the road. You

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Speaker 4: don't hit the gas if there's a cop in front

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Speaker 4: of it, and she did, and that's why the shooting

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Speaker 4: is justified. John, thank you with that. Uh yeah, I

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Speaker 4: guess I got a role. So what we have is,

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Speaker 4: I know we all have eyes and we all have brains,

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Speaker 4: and that doesn't And by the way, as I wrap

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Speaker 4: up this hour. That doesn't mean that I have every

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Speaker 4: expectation that everybody is going to see things exactly as

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Speaker 4: I do, or that we're all going to see things

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Speaker 4: as a country in precisely the same way. That's why

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Speaker 4: it's probably important most important thing for me to share

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Speaker 4: with you as we come out here. I do not

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Speaker 4: believe this shooting is justified because I voted for Trump.

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Speaker 4: I don't think this shooting is justified because I support Ice.

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Speaker 4: I believe the shooting was justified because it looks justified.

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Speaker 4: It just does. There's a guy in front of the car.

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Speaker 4: There's somebody saying, out of the car, she defied a

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Speaker 4: lawful order that irrespective of my politics or who I

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Speaker 4: voted for, those things are are are on tape and

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Speaker 4: beyond debate. So tell you, well, let's do. Let's take

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Speaker 4: a few things that I guess are up for debate,

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Speaker 4: take them into the next hour. Mark Davis and for Larry,

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Speaker 4: travel there with me. See you on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Come, let's get her teet up.

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Speaker 9: Shut off.

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Speaker 3: That sub go from Dallas, Texas. Here's the sage brush.

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Speaker 3: Mark Davis, and.

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Speaker 4: We welcome you to the third and final hour, the

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Speaker 4: Friday Larry Elder Show. I am Mark Davis, host of

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Speaker 4: the morning show here on six sixty am The Answer

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Speaker 4: in Dallas Fort Worth, filled with the energy driven by

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Speaker 4: current events to be here from early in the morning

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Speaker 4: today to well into the evening our time, afternoon drive

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Speaker 4: on the West coast, a little later on the East coast,

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Speaker 4: whatever time zone you're in. We are so grateful to

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Speaker 4: have you here, and thank you very much. Larry. We'll

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Speaker 4: be back on Monday here on the Salem News Channel

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Speaker 4: and Salem Radio Network. So glad that you're here. Follow

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Speaker 4: me on Mark Davis on the old ex Twitter, Mark

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 4: Davis Show on Facebook and Instagram and uh TikTok, yeah

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01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 4: that thing. So we're just glad to have you here.

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Speaker 4: And as I mentioned, we're about to head right back

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Speaker 4: to your calls. In a second, I'm going to call

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Speaker 4: for cut number two here, guys back at headquarters, We're

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Speaker 4: going to take a listen to President Trump talking about

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Speaker 4: the shooting because at this event featuring a lot of

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Speaker 4: oil company executives, which is my way of opening the

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Speaker 4: door into discussion of a few other things. It's on

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Speaker 4: any Friday show that I do, whether it's in the morning,

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Speaker 4: locally here on six sixty am the Answer or along

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Speaker 4: the platform of the Salem News Channel or Salem Radio

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Speaker 4: Network on Fridays. I feel like a talk program does

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Speaker 4: a good job in sort of tying a bow around

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Speaker 4: everything that's happened. It's the first full week of twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty six, and it's already exhausting. Who knows what lies ahead,

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Speaker 4: but from Venezuela to Greenland, to various items in the

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Speaker 4: culture and some Supreme Court stuff that may be coming

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01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 4: down the pipeline, there's a lot going on. So this

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Speaker 4: is my invitation to you. There's something in the news,

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01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 4: something that you've heard on a show, or something you

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01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 4: want to run by me. It's why I'm here. And

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Speaker 4: it's great to be here for Larry again. Mark Davis

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Speaker 4: in for Larry and the phone number here is eight

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Speaker 4: eight eight nine seven to one. Stage eight eight eight

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Speaker 4: nine seven one seven two four to three. So at

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Speaker 4: the White House. And this was, as almost every Trump

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Speaker 4: event is. This was just remarkable. He's sitting there, Marco

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Speaker 4: Ruby is there, Marco Rubio is there? Some guys from

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Speaker 4: some oil companies are there. The CEO of Conico Phillips,

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Speaker 4: Ryan Lance, had some things to say about the Trump

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Speaker 4: Venezuela plan. And it's funny because one of the narratives

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Speaker 4: forever has been that oil is evil, that oil companies

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Speaker 4: are evil guys. Fossil fuels run the civilized world. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm not anti electric car, anti wind, anti solar, not

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Speaker 4: at all. Whatever works, man, whatever works, but if it

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Speaker 4: does work, it doesn't need one dime of your money

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Speaker 4: in a federal subsidy. No, no taxpayer bailouts for any

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Speaker 4: of this. If you want to have an electric car,

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Speaker 4: you go have an electric car. This guy does not

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Speaker 4: do range anxiety, so I won't be joining you in

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Speaker 4: that community. But it's a free country. You do what

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Speaker 4: you want. And that's the whole point. The two important

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Speaker 4: words there are free country, meaning we should be able

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Speaker 4: to make our own choices. The choice of Americans, the

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Speaker 4: overwhelming choice is to drive cars that run with gas,

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Speaker 4: where the prices are absolutely going down. So there are

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Speaker 4: two things as we take a look at this all

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Speaker 4: important midterms year twenty twenty six, two things that better

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Speaker 4: go pretty well. And just as in the forties when

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Speaker 4: we beat Hitler, it was V day, this is VE year,

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Speaker 4: and by V I mean Venezuela, and by e. I

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Speaker 4: mean the economy, those are the two things that really

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Speaker 4: need to go well, your thoughts on all of this

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Speaker 4: and mid term prospects and all of that. Because that's

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Speaker 4: November third, right is that election day this year. So

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Speaker 4: needless to say, a lot's going on and I'm glad

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Speaker 4: to talk about all of it with you. So at

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Speaker 4: the event with President Trump today, we're going to play

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Speaker 4: this here. At a second, Rubio is there, Oil executives are there.

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Speaker 4: At one point, he just gets up and says, I

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Speaker 4: got to take a look at this over here. I

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Speaker 4: just have to see what's going on next door. And

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Speaker 4: he looks through the window through door at the big,

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Speaker 4: beautiful ballroom. The ballroom is huge, the ball it's a

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Speaker 4: great ballroom. It was just as well. And then he

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Speaker 4: sat back down and resumed the meeting, and it was

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Speaker 4: just vintage Trump. It was awesome. He and Rubio have

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Speaker 4: an incredible it's people have a hard time figuring this out,

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Speaker 4: and it is especially in politics where most people are

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Speaker 4: so phony. Trump is like the most real guy ever

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Speaker 4: to be president. And by real, I mean whatever he is,

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Speaker 4: it's unvarnished. There it is, love it, hate it, consider

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Speaker 4: it masterful or vulgar or anywhere in between. That's the guy.

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Speaker 4: He's not pretending to be anybody. He's not. There's no glaze,

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Speaker 4: there's no veneer, which is why and sort of the

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Speaker 4: way all of us can be. I think, has there

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Speaker 4: ever been anybody that you had a grudge with or

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01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 4: a bad relationship but then it just heals and you're

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Speaker 4: okay with that person? Or I guess vice versa, or

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Speaker 4: everything's hunky dory, but then some twig just snaps and

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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden you're done with them, either

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Speaker 4: short term or for life. Trump is like that on

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Speaker 4: the world stage and in the entire national political landscape.

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Speaker 4: Remember little Marco, I mean, he beat the pulp out

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Speaker 4: of the Florida senator when he was running against him. Now,

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Speaker 4: not only is Marco Rubio a bff with Trump, he

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Speaker 4: may and in one of the most important things you

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Speaker 4: can do in the cabinet secretary of state. He might

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Speaker 4: be the best secretary of State we've ever had. He

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Speaker 4: might be at some point soon the president of the

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Speaker 4: United States himself. Well here's a talk show topic if

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Speaker 4: you want to do this. Rubio has said he will

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Speaker 4: not run if vance does I get that. I understand

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Speaker 4: that I don't really have a problem with that. Maybe

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Speaker 4: it's what I do for a living. I would cut

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Speaker 4: The idea of a Vance and Rubio and DeSantis and

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Speaker 4: Nikki Hayley and you know, whoever knows who else wants

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01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 4: to get in is pretty attractive to people who do

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Speaker 4: talk media for a living. But so we can talk

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Speaker 4: about that too. So if anything's fair game, let's go

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Speaker 4: bring it. Eight eight eight nine seven one stage eight

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Speaker 4: eight eight nine seven to one, sage. All right, we

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Speaker 4: are in New Jersey, Marv. Oh no, hey gonna say,

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Speaker 4: sit tight, Marv. I got time. Yes, I do get

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Speaker 4: things in order to talk show boy. Here's Trump on

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Speaker 4: the shooting at this big event today.

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Speaker 2: Look, I watched that yesterday and there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of different forms to it. But there was a woman screaming. Shame, shame, shame, shame.

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Speaker 2: She was a agitator, probably a paid agitator, but in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, she was an agitator, a very high level agitator,

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Speaker 2: so professional she wouldn't stop screaming. I said, this isn't

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Speaker 2: a normal situation. This is a professional trouble banker. Because

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Speaker 2: you heard it and I had it. Now I will

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Speaker 2: say this, the news sort of turned her down, turned

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Speaker 2: her off because you're trying to watch she was so

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Speaker 2: loud and so crazy and just not normal. When somebody

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Speaker 2: sees something like that, they don't go screaming and screaming

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Speaker 2: and the same word.

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Speaker 4: It's so.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could say professional, but I didn't think

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Speaker 2: she did a very good job. You have agitators, and

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Speaker 2: we will always be protecting Ice, and we're always going

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Speaker 2: to be protecting our border patrol and.

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Speaker 4: Our law enforcement. Now you may be on the heels

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Speaker 4: of this most recent video saying, gosh, from what I see,

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01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 4: Renee looks kind of almost fairly pleasant. I'm not angry

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01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 4: at you, She says. She doesn't seem to be real

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Speaker 4: militant in those moments leading up to her death. I

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Speaker 4: think the president's referring to earlier in the day where

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Speaker 4: Renee and Becca, that partner of hers and a cohort

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Speaker 4: of other people were doing all kinds of loud and

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Speaker 4: obnoxious and obstructive things to do what these people are

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Speaker 4: doing every day across America. Will it be Portland, Will

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Speaker 4: it be my city by area of DFW, Will it

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Speaker 4: be where you live where some Oh, I guess I mentioned,

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Speaker 4: we talked about this. People of all ethnicities and every

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Speaker 4: age and every race you know, can all be a

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Speaker 4: part of this can be found in a protest crowd.

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Speaker 4: But what the heck is it about the liberal white

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Speaker 4: women right now? There's something extra crazy, extra pathological about

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Speaker 4: these torqued off cranks who happen to be white women.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. And again, as a conservative, as a

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Speaker 4: human being, I don't care what race or sex anybody

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Speaker 4: is anybody. I don't care about the pigment or the plumbing.

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Speaker 4: But usually I mean, you know, post Rodney King, it

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01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 4: was very very much about black people and a whole

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Speaker 4: lot of people of various races who chose to ally

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Speaker 4: with activism. After that, with this, of course there are

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Speaker 4: people you can find, people of every age and every race.

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Speaker 4: But there's something in this moment, something something about the

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Speaker 4: torqued off, crazy white woman that is particularly exercised at

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Speaker 4: this moment. I don't get it. So if you're if

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Speaker 4: you are white, if you're a woman, if you are

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Speaker 4: a leftist, call me and explain it to me. Or

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Speaker 4: if you are black and conservative or centrist and Hispanic

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Speaker 4: or Asian and libertarian, I don't care. I don't care

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Speaker 4: what color or you know, what race or sex anybody is.

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01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 4: But there is something about the crazy white woman, and

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Speaker 4: I don't want any of them, or anybody of any

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Speaker 4: gender or either sex, either sex. I don't want anybody

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Speaker 4: killed anymore. So if there really are people who care

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Speaker 4: about Renee, let's not have another Renee good. Let's can

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Speaker 4: you have all y'all side. Can you get with your

1490
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 4: people and say, hey, if you want to speak out

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01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 4: against Ice or speak out against Trump, don't obstruct a

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01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 4: valid law enforcement operation, and don't disobey a lawful order,

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01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,799
Speaker 4: and don't try to run over an agent. Mark Davison, Hilaria,

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Speaker 4: right back, that.

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Speaker 19: We do.

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Speaker 4: Coming off the bench to save the country going out

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Speaker 4: of the weekend, or at least try to explain the country.

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Speaker 4: Mark Davis, your happy morning host at six sixty am.

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01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 4: The answer here in Dallas Fort Worth, along the Salem

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01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 4: News Channel, family of viewers, and the Salem Radio Network.

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01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 4: Glad you are here hearing about the Larry Elder store. Again,

1502
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 4: I don't ever want to be overly glib or flipping

1503
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 4: about any of us. Please. It's tragic, it's terrible, but

1504
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 4: there is there. And again I don't know if Larry

1505
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 4: coined this or if he just popularized it or whatever.

1506
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 4: This might not to reduce everything to a T shirt,

1507
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 4: but it might be a T shirt bumper sticker maybe better,

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01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 4: since it's often automotive in its significance. An old saying

1509
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 4: that says, if you comply, you won't die. If you comply,

1510
01:24:54,720 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 4: you won't die. Sometimes it is that simple. All right.

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01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 4: You thought it was going to him, and I interrupted

1512
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 4: him and went with Trump. So the time that your

1513
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 4: time has come. We are in the Garden state of

1514
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 4: New Jersey. Mar of Mark Davison Valary, Welcome. How are

1515
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 4: you doing?

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01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 15: Which organization has a higher bar set for who they hire?

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01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 15: Ice or McDonald's.

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01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 4: And also, I'm actually gonna say no, no, no, no, no, no,

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01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, Marv, I'm gonna say here's here's what's interesting.

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01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a chance to do something. Here

1521
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 4: we have one of your more marginally skilled pranksters, pose

1522
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 4: a question. Let's have a conversation. Let's see if we

1523
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 4: can do it. If we can, great, If not, go

1524
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 4: about your day. What do you want to talk about?

1525
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 15: I want to talk about what I just called about.

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01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 4: Okay, So do you do so. Do you believe so?

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01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 4: Do you believe so? Do you believe so? Do you

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01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 4: believe that the ICE people, that these federal law enforcement

1529
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 4: folks are improperly trained or haphazardly trained? Why would you

1530
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 4: believe that?

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01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 15: Well, all the smartest and hardest working people that I know,

1532
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 15: they're all leaving their really good law enforcement positions or

1533
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 15: corporate positions to join ICE. Yeah, that's really going on.

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01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 4: Well, no, that wasn't what I asked you. Of these

1535
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 4: people who are involved in this shooting, or just generally speaking,

1536
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 4: as ICE mobilizes in all parts of America, which they

1537
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 4: certainly are doing, you seem to assert that that is

1538
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 4: a force made up of people who are badly trained,

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01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 4: not deserving of the uniform. And I'm just asking you

1540
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 4: on what you base that opinion. That's all.

1541
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 15: Clearly from what I see, we're only getting the best

1542
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 15: and the brightest, especially the idea.

1543
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 4: But again, what is it you say from what I see?

1544
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 4: If there's any lesson of today, it is that we

1545
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 4: often see what we want to see. Have you seen

1546
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 4: how many? How many have you seen? Have you operated?

1547
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 4: Do you know any of them? How many ICE agents

1548
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 4: do you know personally? How many conversations have you had

1549
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 4: with people who are doing this for a living. What

1550
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 4: is your level of familiarity or is this just drive

1551
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 4: by snark? How many people in this profession do you know?

1552
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 4: I like thee oh, tell me about, tell me about,

1553
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 4: tell me about. Tell me about the last conversation you

1554
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 4: had with one that you know that made you think

1555
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,879
Speaker 4: that he she was ill equipped.

1556
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,799
Speaker 15: A friend of mine was the CEO of a fortune

1557
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 15: one hundred company and they left it, left a seventh

1558
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 15: figure position. They go, I want to work for ice.

1559
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 15: Everyone's doing that. I like that ice agent that wouldn't

1560
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 15: let the doctor go anywhere in New York.

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01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 4: First of all, first of all, you're lying. Secondly, if

1562
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 4: you want to let let's spend a moment on this,

1563
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,440
Speaker 4: if you can do it, and I hope you can't.

1564
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 4: We had a woman who had been shot, and let's

1565
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 4: say it's you and me running that scene. Okay, that

1566
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 4: would be an interesting partner. And we have a woman

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01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 4: who clearly needs medical attention, and the actual law enforcement

1568
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 4: linked medical people are on the way. Somebody runs up

1569
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 4: and says, I'm a doctor. Are you just gonna go

1570
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 4: have that hurt?

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01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 15: Fifteen minutes mark fifteen minutes.

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01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 4: Now I understand, I understand answer. Oh really, do you

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01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 4: know it was a doctor? Do you not?

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01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 9: No?

1575
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 15: I have no idea. But why would someone look.

1576
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 4: Exactly and why would some Are you pleased as such

1577
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 4: an astute observer of humanity as you offer yourself up

1578
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 4: to be. Did you actually just say, why would somebody

1579
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 4: lie about something like that? In a hopped up, crazy

1580
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 4: wheels off environment like that? Why would somebody lie? People

1581
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 4: lie all the time, including you a little bit today.

1582
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 4: But it's been fun and I appreciate you. Eight eight

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01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 4: eight nine seven to one sage eight eight eight nine

1584
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 4: seven one seven two four three. As we head next?

1585
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 4: Where where we go next? Let us head next to

1586
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 4: a Todd in Tampa. Welcome, how you doing?

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01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 13: Mark?

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01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 15: Great to talk to you.

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01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 22: Let's get down to business. Whether whether you believe me

1590
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 22: or not, it's true anyway. In twenty ten, I said

1591
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 22: a simple prayer, Lord, the country's going in the wrong direction.

1592
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 22: What are you gonna do about it? And the Lord,

1593
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 22: who has a sense of humor, said, what are you

1594
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 22: gonna do about? I got on the phone and I

1595
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,839
Speaker 22: called the toughest richest guy I know, which is Donald J. Trump,

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01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 22: And I called his office forty times, and thank god

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01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 22: he got in the race. And I've been with him

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01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 22: ever since. I'm twenty ten. Between twenty ten and twenty

1599
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 22: twenty four, everyone who voted for him got on the

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01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 22: Trump train, and I give Jesus all the boys. Let

1601
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 22: me say this, Donald, stay with our right to take

1602
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 22: We stand with our ice agents, We stand with our guy.

1603
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 22: If you have to bring the National Guard and the

1604
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 22: Marines out there to protect them, you do that. You

1605
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,879
Speaker 22: do whatever it takes. What easy legals out of the country.

1606
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 22: That's carp in Philadelphia. Okay, we have a moral obligation.

1607
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 22: Get the legals out of the country or get you see,

1608
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 22: I hire Thatt of here. If you don't stand.

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01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 9: With America, we want it.

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01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 4: That's it is. It is a time to decide. It

1611
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 4: is a time to decide. Todd, thank you appreciate it.

1612
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 4: Got to move along here, it is. It is a

1613
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 4: time to decide. And don't I don't pretend. I don't

1614
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 4: pretend that, uh again, that everybody is going to be

1615
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 4: is going to be unanimous. I don't pretend that there

1616
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 4: is going to be singularity of opinion across the American landscape.

1617
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 4: I don't expect oh this is a good opportunity we

1618
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 4: talk about. The call I took this morning heard from

1619
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 4: a guy who, unlike some people on today's show, wanted

1620
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 4: to have an honest conversation about some things in disagreement

1621
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 4: with me, which I always welcome on the show when

1622
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 4: I'm guest hosting for somebody or on my own program

1623
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 4: here in DFW. And the gentleman thought that his opinion

1624
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:06,759
Speaker 4: was that there were not enough warrants, not enough badges

1625
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 4: being shown, et cetera, et cetera. So he did a

1626
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 4: little bit of a deep dive into when ice or

1627
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 4: any law enforcement has to have a warrant that they

1628
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 4: present to you, like, hey, here's the warrant, when they

1629
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 4: absolutely have to identify themselves and provide badge numbers and

1630
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And the answer is sometimes they do

1631
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 4: and sometimes they don't. And then there was the larger

1632
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 4: issue of are we where's the bar set for when

1633
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 4: we kick you out of the country, And he gave

1634
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 4: the heartrending type of story that we often hear, and

1635
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 4: I'm a human being, it touches my heart as well.

1636
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 4: Some couple drags their nine year old unwittingly into the

1637
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 4: country against the law, and the nine year old is

1638
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 4: now thirty and it's never broken any other law except

1639
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 4: being here illegally, and he wasn't even a party to that.

1640
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 4: And is that somebody we should try to find a

1641
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 4: way to keep. I would say, let's try to find

1642
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 4: a way to keep that person. But then all of

1643
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 4: a sudden every parent knows we can drag the kids in.

1644
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 4: Then we have it's the sort of the anchor maybe

1645
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 4: anchor adolescent concept. And so we had a wonderful conversation

1646
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 4: with a difference of opinion, but far too many of

1647
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 4: the left. That's what these protests are about. These protests

1648
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 4: are about hatred of Trump, hatred of vice, and hatred

1649
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 4: of any effort to actually do something about illegal immigration.

1650
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 4: Mark Davis in for Larry. If you're right back, be careful,

1651
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 4: be careful if you're driving home. Research shows that Deep

1652
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 4: Purple's Highway Star can make people speed, or at least

1653
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 4: did me when I was seventeen, So be careful about that,

1654
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 4: all righty Ian Gillan and the boys. As we work,

1655
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 4: are we into the home stretch half hour? Mark Davis

1656
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 4: in for Larry. A quick word about something. It may

1657
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 4: be almost impossible as a law of physics to imagine

1658
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 4: another entire news story coming out of Minnesota today. But

1659
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 4: there is. And it's if you thought that there's only

1660
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 4: so much oxygen, that are only so many slices to

1661
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 4: the pie, and if you found yourself thinking, as Tim

1662
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 4: Walls was at the lector and earlier this week, that

1663
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 4: he has just relieved that somebody's talking about something other

1664
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 4: than the Somali fraud scandal. That's not going away. The

1665
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 4: attention being paid to the clown car that is the

1666
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 4: state of Minnesota under Tim Walls, that story is not

1667
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 4: going away. And today here is Agriculture Secretary Brook Rollins

1668
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 4: saying that the Trump administration uncovering massive fraud in Minnesota

1669
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 4: billions siphoned off those in charge, with zero plan to

1670
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 4: fix it. Today, the United States Department of Agriculture is

1671
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 4: suspending federal financial awards to the State of Minnesota and

1672
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 4: the City of Minneapolis, effective immediately until sufficient proof has

1673
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 4: been provided that the fraud has stopped. Now, that's a

1674
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 4: great piece of news. That's called accountability. But it also

1675
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 4: opens the door to one of my favorite points, and

1676
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 4: that is there should be no such thing as all

1677
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 4: these federal financial awards to states for hardly anything. The

1678
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 4: Constitution lays out what the states are supposed to do

1679
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 4: and what the federal government is supposed to do. And

1680
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 4: one of the reasons that government is so bloated and

1681
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 4: enormous is that your tax money and mine go. In

1682
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 4: my example, I'm in Texas. I pay taxes into the

1683
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 4: federal government, and then Washington takes it and does all

1684
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 4: kinds of things, building senior citizen centers in Iowa, or

1685
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 4: building a bridge in Idaho, or doing some other programs,

1686
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 4: some community development block grant in Louisiana. Stop it, stop it.

1687
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 4: My money shouldn't be going to stuff like that in

1688
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 4: other states. And conversely, all you good taxpayers in all

1689
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 4: these other states shouldn't be paying your tax money to

1690
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 4: stuff that we're doing here in Texas if we stop

1691
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 4: doing that at the federal government. And it'll be so

1692
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 4: difficult to stop, because what I'm talking about doing is

1693
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 4: cutting off the spigot of enormous federal money so that

1694
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 4: members of Congress can go back and go look what

1695
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 4: I did for bringing home the bacon. I'm talking about

1696
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 4: getting rid of the bacon. And look at me. I

1697
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 4: rarely talk about getting rid of Bacon. So it's just

1698
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 4: a talk show for another day. Maybe next time I'm here,

1699
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 4: if nothing else cataclysmic is happening, we'll talk about the

1700
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 4: degree to which our addiction to all these federal programs

1701
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 4: out to the states. Let the states take care of themselves,

1702
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 4: And well, what will the states do without all this

1703
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 4: federal money? If you give us a bunch of our

1704
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 4: money back instead of giving it to forty nine other

1705
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 4: states in DC, we'll have so much money we won't

1706
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 4: know what to do with it in each of our

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Speaker 4: individual states. Right, it makes sense. There you go. Told

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Speaker 4: you we were going multi topic here in the final

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Speaker 4: hour eight eight eight nine seven one stage eight eight

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Speaker 4: eight nine seven one seven two four three. Alrighty, we

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Speaker 4: are in Jackson, Mississippi. Fine out in the Magnolia State.

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Speaker 4: Chris Mark Davis welcome. How are you.

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Speaker 25: Grace or grace or blessed? Bless I have listened to

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Speaker 25: the show tonight and you are so awesome it.

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01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 10: Is you're you're very kind.

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01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 25: I want to stuff on your radio station. I wish

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01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 25: I'd known this before, but what I was want to

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01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 25: talk about, did you see grasp Jasmine Crockett? Once you

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Speaker 25: use up our crime about the light in the Minnesota stuff.

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Speaker 4: I have seen a number of people feigning such an

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Speaker 4: emotional response.

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Speaker 25: Yes, well we got to go do that that when when.

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Speaker 10: At the video just come out for it.

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Speaker 16: She was trying to remember to.

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Speaker 4: Do all right, you've been very kind and the cellular

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Speaker 4: gods are not smiling. Give it a try again, because

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01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 4: we had a kind of an underwater effect. Run that

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Speaker 4: sentence by me again.

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Speaker 19: The lighted that got shot by the asked agent. And

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Speaker 19: they're trying to do all that, and they showed that

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Speaker 19: all the VEU Well, she actually tried to run over

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Speaker 19: him and he actually had been run over before.

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Speaker 25: And it's said and everything. I understand there where they're

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Speaker 25: coming from. But what do you do while they're trying

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01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 25: to divide us and stir up all this?

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Speaker 4: I know well. And the answer is for power and

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01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 4: money and an agenda that says fighting illegal immigration is bad.

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01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 4: They just don't want illegal immigration stop, and we have

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Speaker 4: a president who's doing something about it and just driving

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Speaker 4: them even crazier than they were in the first place. Chris,

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Speaker 4: God bless you and thanks and sorry about old miss

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01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 4: last night. I was kind of rooting for him. Appreciate

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01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 4: you and thanks everybody. Mississippi's great. When I was working

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Speaker 4: in Memphis, I was down there and Senatobia and Olive

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Speaker 4: Branch in Holly Springs and all those northern Mississippi towns,

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01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 4: and it's just a great, great, great state. It gets

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01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 4: a bum wrap. Mississippi is awesome, all righty Mark Davison, Hilary,

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01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 4: more of you are eight eight nine seven one sage

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Speaker 4: call us. Yes, it is where the host Larry Elder

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01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 4: returns on Monday and for the remaining sixteen or so minutes,

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Speaker 4: you got me Mark Davis, morning host at six sixty am.

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01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 4: The answer here in Dallas Fort Worth, where I hope

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01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:27,799
Speaker 4: a great weekend lies ahead for you. Faith, family and football.

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01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 4: Sounds like a good combination for the next couple of days.

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01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 4: And then when your weekend is over and it's Monday morning,

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01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,600
Speaker 4: I'm back here on the Salem News Channel and the

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Speaker 4: Salem Radio Network, filling in for Chris deigaul. I'm everywhere,

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01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 4: I'm everywhere, but just glad to be here with you

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Speaker 4: right now. It's been a spectacular time. I'm really grateful.

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Speaker 4: Let's see what else is going on in the phone lines,

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01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 4: what else other folks want to talk about? Eight eight

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Speaker 4: eight nine seven one sage eight eight eight nine seven

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Speaker 4: one seven two four three. We are in Tampa and Charlotte.

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Speaker 4: That is you, Mark Davis. How are you good? Friday?

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Speaker 4: To you?

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Speaker 26: Hi, Thank you very much. Hey, I'm so excited to

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01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 26: be talking to you. So I've been very upset how

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01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 26: everybody's demonizing the ice agents. And I remember in two

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Speaker 26: thousand and no, yeah, twenty and thirteen at the Capitol

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Speaker 26: when President Obama.

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Speaker 11: Was president, a woman was shot. She was a dental

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Speaker 11: hygienist and she was upset, something to do with the

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Speaker 11: healthcare I think, and she was driving through the barricades

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Speaker 11: to go talk to Obama at that White House.

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Speaker 4: And it's not a good move.

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Speaker 11: No, Well, they shot her. They killed her. They were

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Speaker 11: shooting at the car and when she got there, I

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Speaker 11: guess they asked her to get out. She got out

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Speaker 11: and they shot her, and she had a baby in

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Speaker 11: the car.

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Speaker 4: Well she had she did. I remember this case and

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01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 4: what she did. She comes up to a restricted area

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Speaker 4: without authorization, didn't stop at the checkpoint. They attempted to

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Speaker 4: stop her, and she blazes off down Pennsylvania Avenue forty

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Speaker 4: fifty sixty seventy miles an hour. So this is someone

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Speaker 4: who clearly we've spent a lot of time these past

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Speaker 4: couple of days talking about when the cops get to

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Speaker 4: kill you and when they don't. In this particular case

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Speaker 4: in Minnesota, it was a direct threat to the officer

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Speaker 4: if you have somebody who you have an appreciable thought

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Speaker 4: is going to hurt or kill others. And I think

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Speaker 4: that that bar was more than met with this lady.

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Speaker 4: So what overall point do you want to make about

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Speaker 4: how do these relate to each other in your mind?

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Speaker 11: Well, said the policeman were not demonized during or die

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Speaker 11: Obama administration.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, I have a feeling. But with this, I know,

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Speaker 4: I know, but this wasn't this pretty cut and dried?

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Speaker 4: Wasn't this one pretty cut and dried? You show up

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Speaker 4: at a White House checkpoint and well, actually this one's

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Speaker 4: almost cut and dried to me in Minneapolis. Then you're

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Speaker 4: trying to show it up at the White House, a

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Speaker 4: direct threat to the president. Then you go careening down

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Speaker 4: Pennsylvania Avenue at seventy miles an hour. I don't think

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Speaker 4: that disagreement was much possible.

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Speaker 6: I agree.

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Speaker 24: I agree with you, Charlie.

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Speaker 4: You're going to try to get a bunch of people

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Speaker 4: on as we go Charlotte, thank you appreciate it. Let

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Speaker 4: us go, No, we will roll to surprise Arizona. Dave

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Speaker 4: Mark Davison for Larry, Welcome. How are you, sir?

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Speaker 24: I'm blessed and highly favored. Had an amazing job interview today.

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01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 24: I haven't worked since August, so prayers that I get

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Speaker 24: a musician.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for sure.

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Speaker 16: Bet.

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Speaker 17: I have two topics.

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Speaker 24: They're inextricably linked, if you don't mind. The first one

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01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 24: is how we can try to reclaim our republic. You

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Speaker 24: being from Dallas Fort Worth, I'm sure you know the

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01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 24: primary is in March, so thirty days from now people

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Speaker 24: start voting in the primary for Republicans. So that's really

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01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 24: when we need to hone in and get make sure

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01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 24: that we have the right candidates that are Maha Maga

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Speaker 24: American citizens first, right. So we can't look forward to November.

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Speaker 24: November is too far away. We need to look closer

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Speaker 24: in line.

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Speaker 4: I think primaries. Primaries are important, correct, What's number two?

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Speaker 24: The second one is I believe this whole thing with

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Speaker 24: Smoleopolis up in Minnesota, with this young lady getting killed

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01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 24: by the ice agent it's it's not a total failure

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Speaker 24: of our government because they keep doing the same thing.

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Speaker 24: But ICE has the ability to close down a block

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Speaker 24: and do what they need to do. So I look

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Speaker 24: to the Republicans in the Democrats to do the right

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Speaker 24: thing for citizens of this country and protect all of us.

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Speaker 24: And I think that instead of stoking fear and hatred

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Speaker 24: across the party lines, they should be doing things for

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Speaker 24: American citizens across the board.

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Speaker 4: What would be an example, what would both SITSI I've

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01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 4: got a question, what would be an example of something

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01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 4: that is quote unquote stoking fear across party lines?

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Speaker 24: Well, the whole thing with ICE now going after real

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Speaker 24: people that are here illegally.

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Speaker 4: Who are the who are the s you said, who

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Speaker 4: who are the Who are the Conservatives who are fearful

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Speaker 4: of that?

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Speaker 24: Well, I think they're staking fear. It's it's almost everybody

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Speaker 24: in the I call it the gelded old Republican Party,

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Speaker 24: the GOP.

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01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 4: Well, because okay, gotcha.

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Speaker 24: It's it's it's one legislative not against it is against

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01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 24: we the people.

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01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 4: But in this particular case, in this particular case, it's

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01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 4: completely about Trump, because everything, it seems is about Trump

1856
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 4: and the Republicans who are who have their shorts in

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01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 4: a lot about this are the people who hate Trump's guts,

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01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 4: or they're or or they're they're trying to attract clicks

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01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:45,640
Speaker 4: and attention to themselves. So I guess the reason I

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Speaker 4: asked that is generally speaking, real conservatives, real Republicans who

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01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 4: believe in borders and who support ice are not terrified

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01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 4: of this, and no Democrats should be. Either they can

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01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 4: agree with it or disagree with it, but the whole

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01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 4: fear thing is based on a fiction. Dave, thanks appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Let us roll next into San Jose and Eric Mark Davison, hilarry.

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Speaker 4: That is you welcome.

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Speaker 27: How you doing, Hey, how you doing?

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Speaker 5: Mark?

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Speaker 27: Good well listening to you today. Thank you. It seems

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01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 27: as though that this classhouse that the Dems have people

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01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 27: living in is just keeping people from well. It makes

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01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 27: people believe that their obligations to the law are so

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01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 27: to interpretation.

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Speaker 5: And you know the rule here through a little rule of.

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Speaker 27: Thumb out there for those people believe it is, if

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01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 27: you're obligated to do it and you don't do it,

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01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 27: you're wrong. But if you're obligated to do it and

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01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 27: you do it, you're wrong, which one is it?

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Speaker 4: That is sound logic, And pardon my brevity, but I

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Speaker 4: got to get out and make room for the final segment. Eric,

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Speaker 4: Thanks best to everybody in San Jose. As my friend

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01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 4: Larry Elder is fond of saying, if you comply, you

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01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 4: will not die, and even in this actually the notion

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01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 4: of complying with law enforcement, it takes me back to

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01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 4: post George Floyd and all the BLM riots, and I

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01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 4: would see the occasional black parent talk about the conversation

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01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 4: they would have to have ostensibly with their kids. What

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01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 4: that the evil white racist cops are out to kill you.

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01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 4: That's child abuse to say that what the proper black

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Speaker 4: parent says is the same thing the proper white, Hispanic

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01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 4: or Asian parents says, and that is obey the police,

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01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 4: be cooperative, be a good citizen. That's the best way

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01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 4: to go, no matter what race you are. Mark Davison

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01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 4: for Larry will wrap it all up next.

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Speaker 2: Don't give me a lion, let's a lion, turn to

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01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 2: styrisguise and both don't fence me in.

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01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 4: Let me right through the open country that I love.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Larry Elder Show.

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Speaker 4: Myself, the wide open country that I love. I'm here

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Speaker 4: in my lone star state of Texas. From the State

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01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 4: of Texas to wherever you are. Greetings and good wishes

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01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 4: and blessings for a fantastic weekend again, faith, family, and football.

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01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 4: By the way, are we going to get Indiana and

1904
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 4: Miami in the Natty? Because it's twenty one to seven

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01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 4: Indiana almost halftime, So dude, I guess those Hoosiers are four.

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01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 4: Real amazing job being done there. That'll be a great game. Listen,

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01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 4: don't don't count out those ducks, as they like to

1908
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 4: say in Oregon. All righty, Salem News Channel, Salem Radio Network,

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Speaker 4: Larry Elder Show, Larry's Back Monday. I'm Mark Davis. Where

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Speaker 4: my gig is Morning show on six sixty am The

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Speaker 4: Answer in Dallas Fort Worth. Follow me on Twitter at

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01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 4: Mark Davis Mark Davis Show on Instagram and Facebook and TikTok,

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01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I'll be in for

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Speaker 4: christigall early Monday as we get ready go to a

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01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 4: final call. Thanks enormously to chrys Lavander to the producing

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01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 4: now if it does that for these days for Larry,

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01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 4: Sean and rick In La Dustin, and Miller here in DFW.

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Speaker 4: Without these guys, it doesn't even happen. It's a joy

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Speaker 4: and honor to work with all those people. And thank

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Speaker 4: you Larry for the ability to keep the seat warm.

1921
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Speaker 4: All right, let's see what else we can do in

1922
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Speaker 4: these last couple of minutes. Here are we are in

1923
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Speaker 4: Saint Petersburg, and John online for that is you welcome, SIRT.

1924
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 4: Nice to have you happy Friday.

1925
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Speaker 8: Well, thank you very much, Mark, and thank you for

1926
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Speaker 8: taking my call.

1927
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Speaker 4: John.

1928
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Speaker 16: I just want to clear.

1929
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Speaker 8: Something up, you know, being a police officer it's a

1930
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 8: thankless job, don't get me wrong, and I certainly wouldn't

1931
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 8: want to do it. But it's not a dangerous job,

1932
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 8: not an overly dangerous job.

1933
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Speaker 4: It's not an over no no, no way to go

1934
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Speaker 4: no please, oh go ahead, go ahead, go go please.

1935
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Speaker 9: Okay.

1936
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:56,640
Speaker 8: The reason why it's not an overly dangerous job is

1937
01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 8: because if it was, life insurers would rate down with

1938
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 8: an occupational rating mark. There is no occupational rating for

1939
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 8: a police officer.

1940
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Speaker 16: None is everybody else.

1941
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but here so interesting stat But there's an old,

1942
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 4: an old saying. There's liars, damn liars and statisticians. So

1943
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,719
Speaker 4: let me thank you for that observation and actually pay

1944
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 4: it some some deserved attention. Police work is not considered

1945
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 4: dangerous because thirty percent of the cops die or get hurt.

1946
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 4: Police work is considered dangerous because every once in a

1947
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,639
Speaker 4: great while we lose one or two, or three or four.

1948
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 4: It's not because of the high percentage of death or

1949
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 4: dismemberment that you see in police work. It is that

1950
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 4: these are people who put on a uniform and ask

1951
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 4: for it. They say, I will step in front of

1952
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:50,760
Speaker 4: a bullet for you, I will step in front of

1953
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Speaker 4: a car for you, I will sacrifice my life for you.

1954
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Speaker 4: That's what makes that's what makes that particular danger, that

1955
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Speaker 4: particular risk, something we hold in very high regard. Well, listen,

1956
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Speaker 4: I hold y'all in very high regard. I wish you

1957
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Speaker 4: a great weekend. I'm Mark Davison for Larry. Larry is

1958
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Speaker 4: back on Monday. Have a fantastic weekend. God bless and listen.

1959
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Speaker 4: No matter how crazy things get, it's still America. God's

1960
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 4: still in control and Trump is still president. Have a

1961
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 4: fantastic weekend. See you next time they ask me. Here

1962
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Speaker 4: on the Larry Elder Show, Salem News Channel, Salem Radio Network.

1963
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Speaker 4: Be good,