1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Now that that stranglehold has been broken, there is an 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: opportunity for the Levities people to rise up and take 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: their country back. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: But they are worried. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Is Trump going to be really there is Who's going 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: to help us through this transition? 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: Who are the Palestinian people and how does God call 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: us to see them and love them? God is not 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: an either or God. He is a both and God. 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: He loves all people and he asks us to do 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: the same. This is just one topic addressed on today's episode. Hi, 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: and welcome to Inside the Epicenter with Joela Lyn Rosenberg, 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: a podcast of the Joshua Fund. We are a ministry 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: that seeks to bless Israel and her neighbors in the 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: name of Jesus. In this Lightning Round Q and A 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: from our recent Joshua Fund Alaska Cruz, Joel addresses questions 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: where prophecy and geopolitics intersect. He talks about Jewish identity, 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: about the on the ground realities in Gaza and Lebanon, 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: and he talks about God's command to love Palestinians while 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: at the same time being honest about hard truths. Let's 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: listen in. 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 4: Here's my first question. Jul I understand that there is 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 4: breaking news happening in Alaska right now. 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh, that's true. Are you aware? Next week next Friday? 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Let him at Putin and I am meeting in Alaska. 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Try to get this thing done. Which're going to try 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: to bring peace to Ukraine and Russia. Okay, No, we 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: really need to be praying for that. 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: That is the first time that the two presidents I 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: have met in a long time, certainly since this war began. 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: It's a very painful and difficult situation in Ukraine. Steve 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Wakoff just met with Trump with Putin rather, so the 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: presumption is that if Trump has agreed to meet with 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: Putin in person and Putin's meeting degree on US soil Alaska, 35 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: then maybe a deal is really here to end the 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: war in Ukraine. And I will tell you the war 37 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. Many of you know that I wrote a 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: political thriller called The Kremlin Conspiracy about a Russian dictator 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: trying to decide should I invade Ukraine or the three 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Baltic states Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. And you know how 41 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: it played out in real life. And maybe you read 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: the novel. And by the way, I'm working on the 43 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: screenplay to turn that into a movie. But that's another 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: story another day. The Kremlin conspiracy. I believe this is 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: one of the birthpangs of our generation. This is the worst, biggest, 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: bloodiest land war in Europe since World War Two, and 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: we need to get this thing ended. 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: Well, we're going to stay on the Russia theme. Okay, 49 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: With everything that you see happening in Russia in Iran, 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 4: do you believe that we are closer to the Biblical 51 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 4: war of Gog and Magog as Ezekiel thirty eight and 52 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: thirty nine. You preach on it all the time, looking 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: forward to hearing what you have to say. 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: I have been asked that a lot. 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: That's probably the number one question I've been asked this week, 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: especially over dinner conversations and just in the hallways. 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: The answer is, I don't know. Are we closer or 58 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: further away? I don't know. 59 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: I'll give you two brief scenarios. Scenario one would be 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: that we're further away. Okay, that Russia, having invaded Ukraine 61 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: a little over three years ago, has lost more than 62 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: nine hundred thousand soldiers either killed or severely wounded. And 63 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, tremendous numbers of tanks and other military hardware 64 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: such that they're you know, they've had to import North 65 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: Korean battle troops to fight for Russia because they're just 66 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: kidling off so many of their own troops. And they've 67 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: had a import weapons from Iran. So with Russia being 68 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: humiliated and decimated, it's military being decimated, that seems unlikely 69 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: that they would launch a whole nother attack in another 70 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: country Israel in that analysis, And when you add then 71 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: Iran being humiliated, its nuclear weapons program destroyed, neutralized in 72 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: recent weeks, the two of them seem unlikely candidates in 73 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: one scenario to attack anybody. That scenario a further away 74 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: scenario b closer. Russia's humiliated, Iran's humiliated, and they want vengeance. Yes, 75 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: their militaries have been severely destroyed and humbled, let's say, 76 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: but remember that Russia, in Iran, Magog and Persia in 77 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: the Bible prophecy team up with several other countries. The 78 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: main other country is what the Bible calls Gomer. Now 79 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: that's not where Gomer Pile is from. So I just 80 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: want to make that clear. This is what we call 81 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: modern day Turkey. Now modern day Turkey under receipt air Dowan, 82 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: a radical Islamist, a would be sultan who wants to 83 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: revive the Ottoman Empire. He has the largest army in Europe, 84 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: and it is untouched, it is NATO trained, it is 85 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: NATO equipped, And in the text of the of Ezekiel 86 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: thirty eight it says and Gomer with all its troops. 87 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: So in that analysis, you'd say Russia and Iran want vengeance. 88 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: And they believe that Israel is committing genocide. They believe 89 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Israel is starving the Palasians. They believe that's not going 90 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: to take over all of Gaza, and then who knows, 91 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: maybe they'll go into Zephania two and just keep it forever. 92 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: And they don't want to be humiliated. And Air Towan 93 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: is not a difficult person to persuade. Hey, why don't 94 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: we come surround Israel. Probably don't have to invade them. 95 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: Let's go freak them out and show them whose boss 96 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: and knock Trump off his high horse, and let's reassert 97 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: our pot as. 98 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: A new alliance. 99 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: And that scenario that could happen in weeks, it could 100 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: happen in the next few months. 101 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 102 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: I don't think there's enough data to support a conclusion, 103 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: but it brings me back to well, then what do 104 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: we know. 105 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: We know that the mission of the Josh Fund is 106 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: more urgent than ever. We got to preach to the gospel. 107 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: We've got to strengthen the church, to make disciples, plant 108 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: new churches, care for the poor, educate about prophecy and 109 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: the importance of the church and the region. Because either way, 110 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: it's just a mess. And let's stick with what we know. 111 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: We don't know yet exactly how these prophecies are going 112 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: to play out or when, but we know our mission 113 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: and we're going to stay to it, stay focused. 114 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: Where We're staying on that theme with another question here, 115 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 4: if the natural gas pipeline is made between Europe and Israel, 116 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 4: how could this impact Russia economically and could that possibly 117 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: trigger an end times event? 118 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: A natural gass pipeline between Israel and Europe. 119 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Israel is producing, you know, has discovered in 120 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: recent years, you know, trillions of cubic feet of natural 121 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: gas and all visuals, you know, electrogrid and everything is 122 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: all converting over to much cleaner, much more efficient fuel 123 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: that we have rather than fuel we have to import. 124 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: We don't have any coal, and we are coal fired 125 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: power plant country up until now a nuclear power plant too. 126 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: But yes, we've begun to explore some natural gas to 127 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: Jordan and some to Egypt, but Europe is the one 128 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: that needs natural gas gets a little chilly in the 129 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: winters in Europe, and Europe is mostly buying its natural 130 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: gas from where Putin and they shouldn't be or do 131 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: they want to be dependent on Vladimir Putin? So that 132 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: is causing them to look other places. Yes, it's possible. 133 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: I guess that if Europe starts buying large amounts of 134 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: natural gas from Israel, that this would inflame and enrage 135 00:07:53,400 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: Putin and undermine his ability, his desire, his capacity to 136 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: create economic blackmail over Europe, certainly Central and Eastern Europe. 137 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a lot of things that could make 138 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: Putin angry. And of course we don't know that Putin 139 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: is Gog, but he's gog esque, so we got to 140 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: keep a close. 141 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: Eye on him. 142 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: Lynn, Yes, where does the name from the Joshua Fund 143 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: to come from? Like? Where does the Joshua Fund come from? 144 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: That name? 145 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a fun question. It's a simple answer, and 146 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: that is it comes from Joel's very first book which 147 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: was the last Gihat his first novel. In that book, 148 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 3: the main character, who is not Marcus Riker, was named 149 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: John Bennett. He runs a fund called the Joshua Fund. 150 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: So that's in the very first novel. And of course 151 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: it was during that It was that novel that sort 152 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 3: of set us on this course of Joel speaking and 153 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: the Joshua Fund being born and so. But we also 154 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: love the story of Joshua and Caleb being the two 155 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: faithful of the spies that went in. Of course we 156 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: named our first son Caleb and the ministry Joshua, who 157 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: go in to spy out the land and say, yes, 158 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: the land belongs to the Lord and we can take 159 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: it so for the Lord. 160 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: And of course Yeshua is just a slight derivation from 161 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: the name Joshua, the Lord Save. 162 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: So all that seems good. 163 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 4: It's a great name. I like it. Lynn. Why why 164 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: why does a person have to have a Jewish mother 165 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 4: to be Jewish? All the genealogies record the lines through 166 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 4: the father. Would Ovid be a non Jew since Ruth 167 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 4: was it? 168 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: Well? Currently, in today's Jewish law, which is called Hallacic law, 169 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: which is rabbinical law, they have decided that that Judaism 170 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: is determined by the mother. However, Halacic or rabbinic law 171 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: is not biblical Judaism, as we all have mentioned and 172 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: as Victor has talked about. So in the scripture we 173 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: see the patriarchs, we see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. 174 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: We don't the line doesn't come through the mother. So know, 175 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: in God's eyes his people, it went through the Father. 176 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 3: The promise was passed through the seed of the Father. 177 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: Yes, but it. 178 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: Actually worked out for our family well, because Joel is 179 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: not considered holockically Jewish. So if he was considered holockically Jewish, 180 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: he would have been considered a convert to Christianity and 181 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: been disqualified to be an Israeli citizen. But because his 182 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: mother is provably Gentile and his father is prove and 183 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: grandfather and grandmother were provably Jewish, that's how we were 184 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 3: able to become citizens. 185 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: It's a little confusing. 186 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: We always say, if Hitler would have killed you, you're 187 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: Jewish enough to be protected by Israel. Israel was created 188 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: in the ashes of the Holocaust as the eternal home, 189 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: but also the one safe place for Jewish people, and 190 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: so that's how the law is built now if you 191 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: have at least one Jewish grandparents, you can come and 192 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: become and Israeli. 193 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 4: Nice. Next question, in the news, Israel is portrayed as 194 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 4: causing widespread famine in Gaza and denying food relief, etc. 195 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 4: Is any of this true? How do we find out 196 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: what's really going on? Certainly through All Israel News, but 197 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: what about any other mainstream sources? How do we answer 198 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 4: family and friends when they blame Israel. 199 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: You should not trust any other media than All Israel News, 200 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: the podcast, Inside the Epicenter and TBM. 201 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: That's it. There's nothing else good. 202 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: Now, there are some other things good, and actually All 203 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: Azel News will cite stories that we think are credible 204 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: and we'll link to those. And we're not trying to 205 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: act like we're the only game in town, but we're 206 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: spending a lot of time sifting through what's true and 207 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: what isn't. The truth about what's going on in Gaza 208 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: is horrifying. You don't have to feel defensive for Israel. 209 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: If somebody says people are suffering Gaza, you should lean 210 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: in said they are and this is horrible, And I 211 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: just went to spend a week with people. This is 212 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: what they care about this, you should lean into the 213 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: suffering of the Palasins and we should be involved in 214 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: a ministry that cares for both. It doesn't help trying 215 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: to say none of it's true. Now there are lies, 216 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: right the suffering. Where's the suffering coming from? It's not 217 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: coming from Israel. If Israel wanted to starve Gaza, we 218 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: control every border, we just don't let any food in, okay, 219 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: But we're not doing that. We have limited the amount 220 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: of food because they had so much foods all stacked 221 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: up that Kamas either was hoarding or stealing and then 222 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: selling back to people. So that wasn't helping. We helped 223 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: set the United States helped set up a new humanitarian 224 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: relief organization called GHF, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, run by 225 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: a wonderful evangelical Christian who's a friend of ours who 226 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: you can hear our direct interviews with him about what's 227 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: really happening on the inside the Epicenter podcasts and on 228 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: All Issue News and on the Rosenberg Report. So, to 229 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: keep it simple, there is suffering. There's no question of suffering. Yes, 230 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: people are probably not getting enough food, but this is 231 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: because Hamas shoots people trying to get food from the GHF. 232 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: GHF in the last two months has delivered one hundred 233 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: million meals. It's not like it's not happening. There's only 234 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: two million people there, okay in Gaza, plus there is 235 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: other food and the United Arab Emirates and Jordan are 236 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: air dropping supplies in you know, the UK. The new 237 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Prime mister is just is scorching Israel, but they haven't 238 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: provide any food in two years, so you're like eighteen months. 239 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: So there is suffering, but it's caused by Kamas. If 240 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: Hamas laid down their arms today, tomorrow there would be 241 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: no suffering. They would be exiled, the weapons would be removed, 242 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: and the cleanup and rebuilding of Gaza could begin. This 243 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: is the goal, this is the operation. But as long 244 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: as they're going to keep killing people and torturing people 245 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: and robbing and stealing the food, it makes it. 246 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: Very difficult to get food to people. 247 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: When we were with Johnny Moore just a few weeks 248 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: ago in Washington, interviewing him and then having a much 249 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: longer and larger conversation than just the interview. Johnny Moore 250 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: is the new chairman of GHF, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation. 251 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: He's the evangelical Christian that we know, and I've taken 252 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: him around to different Arab leaders throughout the region. Long 253 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: story short, Johnny told us that what they're trying to 254 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: do now is basically develop a door dash system and 255 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: Uber Eats system where people don't have to leave their 256 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: homes or hovels or wherever they're living, that they can 257 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: order food and have it delivered so that they don't 258 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: have to stand in line. 259 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: This is one of the challenges right now. 260 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: Is if you come to one of the four Gaza 261 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: Humanitarian Foundation food distribution centers. Yeah, all the perimeter security 262 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,359 Speaker 1: is done by former US Special Forces cia as contractors 263 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: providing all the security. 264 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: The people that are actually. 265 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Giving the food and running the centers are actually Palestinians. 266 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: Get hired by GHA. 267 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: But if you're in a long line waiting, then you're 268 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: at risk of Hamas shooting you or throwing bombs or whatever. 269 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: So this is where the risk is. 270 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: It's not that Israel and the United States aren't trying 271 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: to provide food for everybody. It's that Hamas is killing 272 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: people or terrorizing you. Don't go to that center. Don't 273 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: go to that center because they want people to starve. 274 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: So this is the challenge. And I would just say 275 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: in terms of your own young people, I had a 276 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: conversation with a mom today, you know, I think it 277 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: was a daughter that she said that it's really like, 278 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, a little hostile at Israel right now. And 279 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: I said, well, I think you should lean into that. 280 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Don't try to defend Israel right away. Talk about your 281 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: love and compassion for suffering Palestinians. This is a big 282 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: reason why we're losing young people because we don't want 283 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: to treat Israel and the Jewish people like a cop 284 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: college basketball team where we've got a team and we 285 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: were defending it and you know, stealing the you know, 286 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: the the mascot of the other team, and you know, 287 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: trashing them. 288 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: No, no, no, like lean into that pain. 289 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: Your kids are probably seeing and they're identifying the suffering, 290 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: and they they're not hearing Evan joicals. 291 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: Talk in biblical balance. 292 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: Now they may not have biblical balance either, but you 293 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: can't ask them to move too far too fast. We 294 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: need to lean into what they see as injustice. In time, 295 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: you're looking for the spot where you can identify with 296 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: them and then begin broadening the conversation. 297 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: Remember, the apostle Paul. 298 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: You know, he gets off of Holland America cruise in 299 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: Greece in Athens, right, and he's just takes an excursion around. 300 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: He's looking at all the different idols and he's praying, Lord, 301 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: show me, how how do I get a conversation going here? 302 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: Where do I even begin? 303 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: I could castigate them all for idol worshiping, but oh, 304 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: look at this an idle to the unknown God. 305 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: Let's start there. I know this God, I know this God. 306 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: Let me tell you this God. 307 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: Right, So you're looking with your young person, your son 308 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: or daughter or grandchild, or or somebody in the neighborhood, 309 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: whatever in your congregation, try to identify where they are 310 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: and lean into it and say, yes, you're part of 311 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: an organization that loves both sides and has compassion. You 312 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: just spend time with Arab believers and Jewish believers who 313 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: care about both sides, and then look for an opportunity 314 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: to begin saying, you know, one of the problems is 315 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: not that there isn't food, It's that Hamas is trying 316 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: to kill the people that are trying to. 317 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: Get to the food. 318 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: So don't try to move the ball too far, too 319 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: fast identify with that sense of injustice because it is unjustice. 320 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: The injustice is not coming from Israel. I'm not saying 321 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: Israel is doing everything right. You also don't have to 322 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: defend every decision. You don't have to become a net 323 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: Yahoo guy or Gale right. That's not your mission. Your 324 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: mission is to love both sides. 325 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: Today's verse comes from One Timothy, Chapter two, verses one 326 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: and two. I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercessions, 327 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 3: and thanksgiving be made for all people, for kings and 328 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 3: all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and 329 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. Would you join 330 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: us in praying for continued quiet in the region so 331 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: that the Gospel can advance. Pray that God would protect 332 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: aid workers, that he would speed the safe delivery of 333 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 3: food and medicine to those who are hurting, that He 334 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: would comfort traumatized families, and that he would restrain those 335 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 3: who are trying to weaponize the suffering of others. Please 336 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: pray for Israel's neighbors who continue to struggle with poor 337 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: and unstable leadership. 338 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 4: One more good question that somebody shared, and that is 339 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: where exactly are the people from Hasbi left from. 340 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: Hesbela is in Lebanon and I am not good with dates, 341 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 3: so Joel, you'll have to say this part. But basically, 342 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: Iran has taken over Lebanon. Lebanon has their government, their people, 343 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: their even their infrastructure. Is a broken country that's run 344 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: like a puppet by Iran. And Hezbollah is the terrorist 345 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 3: group that Iran funds in the south of Lebanon to 346 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: attack Israel right until but things are changing right now. 347 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: When Israel killed the top forty leaders in a row, 348 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: including Sheikh Hasan Israela the founder and spiritual. 349 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: Guide as it were, of ras Boah, a very close 350 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: ally of the Iranian leadership. 351 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: Once they were all assassinated, and then you remember the 352 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: pager explosions and the walkie talking explosions. This moved down 353 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: into the next four thousand senior and mid level operatives. 354 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: Once that happened, in all the bombings of a lot 355 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: of the weapons depots, the missile launchers, all the rest. 356 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: It's so decimated the. 357 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: Husbila leadership structure and its military infrastructure. It didn't completely 358 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: wipe it out, but it so rattled the system that 359 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: there was nobody to lead it and they decided to 360 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: sort of go dormant. So even in the twelve day 361 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: missile war between Israel and Iran and Iran and Israel, 362 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: and when Trump ordered US bombers to attack those three 363 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: nuclear sites in Iran, Krasbola hasn't fired in a long time. 364 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: They're just laying oh. 365 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: And this is causing the rest of the Lebanese people, 366 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: including the Lebanese government, which was being basically hijacked by 367 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: the Iranian government via Rasbilah, that the Lebanese people. 368 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: Are starting to think, maybe we can. 369 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Start to unshackle ourselves from Iran, from Ksbola, also from Syria. 370 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: When Bashah a Assad, the Demon of Damascus, was in 371 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: charge in Damascus, all that was a stranglehold on the 372 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: people of Lebanon. And now that that stranglehold has been 373 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: broken certainly lessened, there is an opportunity for the Lebanese 374 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: people to rise up and take their country back. But 375 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: the decades of being hijacked, so they I'm not sure 376 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: these muscles maybe are the political and social muscles are 377 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: atrophied somewhat. It's taking time. They're all kind of looking 378 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: side to side. Is this can we reassert ourselves or not? 379 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: So we need to really be praying for the Church 380 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: of course in Lebanon, but also for the people and 381 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: the leaders of Lebanon to assert themselves. I think they 382 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: would even do a deal, you know, with Israel and 383 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: joining the Abraham. 384 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: Accords, but they are worried is. 385 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: Trump going to be really there is who's going to 386 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: help us through this transition. One more point I would 387 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: say is when you look in the Bible, Wow, there's 388 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: great history. 389 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: Solomon. 390 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: Remember King Solomon made peace with King Hiram. Basically he 391 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: was the king of Lebanon. He was the king of 392 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: Tire which was the capital powerful city at the time. 393 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: But Hiram sends cedars of Lebanon to Israel to build 394 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: the temple, and Israel sense oil I mean olive oil, 395 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: not oil oil and food. 396 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: And so forth, and they built a real peace. There 397 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: was a warmth. 398 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: Go look up King Hiram, h I r a m 399 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: and King Solomon goes back to King David's relationship. But 400 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: King Solomon really picks up and builds a peace there. 401 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: That is the model of what we'd like to see now. Admittedly, 402 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: one last thought is when the Gag and Magog scenario 403 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: does play out, you know, the Russian Iranian Turkish alliance 404 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: mostly comes from the north. Right, Lebanon is not mentioned 405 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: in that prophecy, and nor Assyria, which seems odd, but 406 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: again because those two countries were effectively, as Lynn said, 407 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, vassal states, you know, protectorates, provinces of Iran's regime. 408 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: Until recently, you know, you. 409 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: Thought, all right, well, when it comes maybe you know, 410 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: Lebanon and Syried effectively don't exist. It's just territory. The 411 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: Gog and Magog forces are coming through. What would that 412 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: look like if we have peace the next you know, 413 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: few years, that'd be a wonderful I don't know, it 414 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: goes badly again, but we'll take peace as long as 415 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: we can whenever we can get it. Let's pray for 416 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: peace and trust that the Lord. Whenever there's quiet, it 417 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: gives us a chance to advance the kingdom. And even 418 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: though trouble often leads people to want Christ, calm gives 419 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: them the space to find it often. And I would 420 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: just add, you know, when Paul tells Timothy to pray 421 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: for kings and governors and all those and authorities, why 422 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: so that we can live quiet, peaceable lives. This is 423 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: God's will for us in Christ Jesus. Quiet is good, 424 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: especially in the epicenter. So let's pray for quiet, which 425 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: is good. 426 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you appreciate that answer. Where are people from Palestine? 427 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 4: Where are the Palestinians from that's the next question. 428 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: So they're from the land that we would all Israel, 429 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: but they would call, you know, the land of the Philistines. 430 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: We talked about that a little bit before. 431 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: I am not someone who accepts the argument easily. 432 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: People say to me, even. 433 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: Jungle say to me all over the world, the Palatines 434 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: don't exist. How does that a helpful start? What am 435 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: I supposed to say to someone I'm sharing the gospel? 436 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: You don't exist. God loves you and has a wonderful 437 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: plan for your life, but you don't exist. You don't 438 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: exist to people, you have no history. That's not helpful. 439 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: Okay. They live there, They've lived there longer than. 440 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: The Jews of late So I think that the better 441 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: way is to accept that there are palestine in people 442 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: right and they don't know Jesus. So they have been 443 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: leading a life that's leading them right into Genesis chapter twelve, 444 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: verse three, which is if you bless Israel, and the 445 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: people of Abraham isazing. Jacob, you'll be blessed, but if 446 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: you curse them, there is a consequence. 447 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 2: You'll be cursed. 448 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: These are sheep without a shepherd, but the shepherds they've 449 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: had have led them down terrible into terrible traps. I 450 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: believe that the palasings of gods are going through judgment. 451 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: That's hard to say in the modern era, but I 452 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: believe it to be true. I've seen it with my 453 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: own eyes. And the suffering we are as followers of 454 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 1: Jesus are still supposed to love people that are suffering, 455 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: even if they're under judgment. You see, no, if they're 456 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: in a judgment, divine judgment. Because they cursed Israel every 457 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: day in the mosque, in the schools, in the media. 458 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: They elected a genocidal government right in two thousand and six, 459 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: and that's come as then, why to have any mercy 460 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: on them? Because of the Book of Jonah, right, the 461 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: people of Nineveh, the wicked capital of Assyria, they were 462 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: under divine judgment. God still sent Jonah. Now, Jonah was 463 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: supposed to preach judgment, but Jonah didn't want to do it. 464 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: Why was he scared? 465 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: No, because he knew that if he preached that judgment 466 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: was coming, that they might repent, and if they repented, 467 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: God might relent, And he didn't want. 468 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: God to have mercy on the people of Nineveh. 469 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: And I think that tells us that people, even under judgment, 470 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: still God loves them and has a wonderful plan for 471 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: their lives, and if they will repent, he will relent. 472 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: You say, Joel, I don't know about that really, because 473 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: you were under judgment in your sin, and I was 474 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: under judgment under my sin, and Jesus still relented, right, 475 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: aren't we glad about that? So all that to say, 476 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: I think it's true biblically. 477 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: That the people of Gaza are under judgment. 478 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: However, we or maybe because of that, we are supposed 479 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: to love them as neighbors or as enemies. Either way, 480 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: we're supposed to love them and bring good news to 481 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: them that they don't have to be under judgment. They're 482 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna be on judgement for eternity if they don't turn 483 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: to Christ. So let's bring them, Let's show them the 484 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: love of Jesus, and let's share the gospel of Jesus, 485 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: and let's hope that just like the apostle Paul who 486 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: was a religious terrorist. He was heading into Damascas to 487 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: do terrorism, and he came out as an apostle. You 488 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: heard Henry tell that beautiful story of a film that 489 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: tells that story. That's amazing, and let's have that same 490 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: hope and prayer for the people of God's. 491 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: At last point, when I went. 492 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: Into Gaza for all Israel News and the Rosenberg report, 493 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: some of you saw that report, I was down in 494 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: those cages where they kept his hostages. But as we 495 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: came out, my colleague from CBN News, Chris Mitchell, said, Hey, 496 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: before we get in the armored personnel carry and go 497 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: back to Israel, do you want to take communion? 498 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 2: Like communion, you're prepared for communion. I didn't even think 499 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 2: of that. 500 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: It's almost like he was like, I've got communion wafers 501 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: and I've got grape juice. 502 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: All right. 503 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: So we bowed our heads, we took the Lord's supper, 504 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: and we prayed that the Lord would break the Satanic 505 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: stronghold of Gaza and bring these people into the Kingdom 506 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ. And so that should be our prayer, 507 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: even though there is judgment. 508 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: But are they from there? Yeah, they're from there. 509 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: Are they hundreds of years ago from all kinds of 510 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: other places. Yeah, but I don't know that's so relevant 511 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: right now. 512 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: Okay, now we're going to go into a lightning round 513 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 4: for Lynn. Lynn. Do you have Jewish ancestry? 514 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: I do not believe so, although my DNA says I 515 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: have three percent Jewishness and woo? 516 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: Are you a citizen through marriage? 517 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: Yes? 518 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 4: I am. 519 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 3: Are your children Israeli citizens? One of them is an 520 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: Israeli citizen. They all were on the pathway to Israeli citizenship. However, 521 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: two of them are permanent residents. When Noah finishes his 522 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: army service, he will become a citizen, and Jonah is 523 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: a citizen. So we have two to citizens, one permanent residence, 524 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: and Caleb bailed out to go marry his college sweetheart 525 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: and live in California. 526 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: Great job, Joel. Last question. You like to say that 527 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: the Joshua fun encourages Christians to learn, pray, give and go. 528 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: So as we get ready to go home, do you 529 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 4: have anything you'd like to ask of us or any 530 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 4: specific words of encouragement. 531 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 1: Usually when we say learn, pray, give and go, we 532 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: mean go to Israel or in our case, come to Israel. 533 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: Right. 534 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: We wrote that phrase when we still live in the States, 535 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: and we do want you to go to Israel and 536 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: we want you to get their discount. 537 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: So I'll underscore that point. 538 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: But right now you're getting ready to go home, and 539 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: so I want you to be really thinking tonight as 540 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: an individual, as a couple, if you're here's a couple, 541 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: as a family, what are the things that the Holy 542 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: Spirit has been sharing with you, has been speaking to you, 543 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: start writing them out in the back of your Bible, 544 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: in a notebook. 545 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: Whatever, because what's going to happen. I can almost guarantee you. 546 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: We've done this a lot. 547 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: We've seen this happen when people come to Israel, they 548 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: go back home and you know, they meet their family. 549 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: It's Sunday morning, they're at church and people are like, wow, 550 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: what was it like and you're like, oh my. 551 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: Gosh, I just I don't even know where it was 552 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: so amazing, Like I mean, the Bible and the worship 553 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 1: and like Dan was amazing. 554 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 2: Who's Dan, you know? 555 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: And the moose and the eagles. I it was amazing. 556 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: Well that's fine, but that is not a helpful. 557 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: It's not even coherent that sentence. 558 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: But that is the way. That's the way we're going 559 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: to communicate it. This should just this trip unless we 560 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: have a plan. Right, So we want to go back 561 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: with if you could only tell people one biblical you know, 562 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: one piece of scripture that God touched you with, and 563 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: one biblical thought that you learned. And then what if 564 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: they ask another question? What if you do you have two? 565 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: Do you have three? Do you have four? 566 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: Write them down, doesn't have to be in order, just 567 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 2: make yourself ask the Lord, what do you What were 568 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: you teaching me this week? What was resonating? What moved you? 569 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: Write those things down? And then on the drive home, 570 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: the fight home, the bus ride home, where how are 571 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: we get home? Spend some time which what would be 572 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: my priority? Where would I begin? And maybe it's different 573 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: with your son than your daughter, your daughter than your grandkids, 574 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: your grandkids to your small group, right, but think about it, 575 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: have a plan and then execute it. Because you are 576 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: the educational movement of the Joshua. We educate, but we 577 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: can't go reach where you reach. We can't be as 578 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: effective as you can. We're trying to create opportunities for 579 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: you to learn and pray and give and go. But 580 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: we want to turn you into educators. You already are that. 581 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't think you would have come unless you had 582 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 1: a heart to be involved in this some way, And 583 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: we don't have positions we can say, oh, by the way, 584 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: we want you to all join the Joshuaun staff, but 585 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: we want to deputize you to go and to take 586 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: what you've learned and just start sharing it in your 587 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: own sphere of influence. That would be my main request 588 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: that you think that way. I want you to know 589 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: that we are praying about working on a book and 590 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: I about everything that not everything, but the main things 591 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: that every even joke hole needs to know about Israel 592 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: and the neighbors. 593 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: What's going on. That was twenty one. 594 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 1: Years ago, that we were twenty years ago, that we 595 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: published at the Center two point zero came out a 596 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: few years later, so there's a long road since then. 597 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: Lot's happened. So we feel like we need to write 598 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: a new book, so we're praying about that. There's some 599 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: other opportunities share more on the podcast going forward. We 600 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: can't get everything squeezed in here and then invite people 601 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: to come. The only thing better than standing with Israel 602 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: is standing in Israel. And I think coming to Israel 603 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: to see it for yourself if you've been there before. 604 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: Good Bring others, especially young people. Try to bring your kids, 605 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: your grandkids. Encourage others, encourage your small group bibles faate 606 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: to come. You'll have a lot of time to save up. 607 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: But we need young people to see it and to 608 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: be moved by God's heart for both sides. If we 609 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: can be a resource in these ways, we want to be. 610 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: And these are good questions. I'm glad people cared enough 611 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: to ask. 612 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: I agree. Okay, this is an audible and it's not 613 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 4: a question, and you don't need to be worried. Lynn, 614 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 4: would you take a moment and introduce the Joshua Fun 615 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 4: staff that's here. That was another question. Oh that would 616 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 4: be a joy. Well I'll start with you. 617 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: So Kelly, who you've seen and is quite lovely and wonderful, 618 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: is our executive director. She oversees the daily management of 619 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: the whole staff team, and we have had such a 620 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: joy working with her. Really, Joel and I in our 621 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: new roles just since January one. So it's going well, 622 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 3: it's been exciting. We have a lot of fun together. 623 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: So that's Kelly and her husband Mark is over here. 624 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: He's not on staff, but he's been on volunteer staff 625 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: and been helping run the slides, which has been wonderful. 626 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: Joy Kurtz is over here with her headset, and Joy 627 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: works in our uppers department, in our donor relations. So 628 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 3: often if you call and have a question, a prayer request, 629 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: your credit card's not working, all kinds of detailed questions 630 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: like that, Joy is one of the main people that 631 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: would answer the phone. And then Joy has a real 632 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: heart for gathering people together and making wonderful events, and 633 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: so she has been helping us to do that for 634 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 3: this cruise and for some of our tours. She's married 635 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: to an Israeli who's currently studying at seminary in She 636 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: likes to say just south of Michigan because there's a 637 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 3: rivalry between Michigan and Ohio. She really lives in Ohio, 638 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 3: but she says south of Michigan. Okay, that's Joy. And 639 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: then Casey is the other voice you may hear on 640 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: the phone if you call for a question. Casey appadaka 641 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: do I say that? Right? 642 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: Yay? Not a big fan of the sea, so she's 643 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: been toughing it out this week. 644 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: He has We're very proud that she did not get 645 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 3: on a rowboat in the other direction. Casey is on 646 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 3: our Joshua Fund staff and also works in operations. So 647 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 3: she and Enjoy are the wonderful team who really love 648 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: our donors and pray with them on the phone. And 649 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: I want you to know they share prayer requests with 650 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: us as a staff team. We meet as a staff 651 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 3: team every weekday morning for one hour for devotions and 652 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 3: prayer for our donors and prayer requests from our field staff. 653 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 3: And so we really consider it an honor to pray 654 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 3: for all of our partners. So that is our Joshua 655 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: Fun staff that are here except for Joel and I. 656 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, And this is just a super great opportunity 657 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 4: to stay. Thank you, thank you Casey, thank you Joy, 658 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 4: thank you Joel, and thank you Lynn. I appreciate it. 659 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: We do. 660 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 3: We have a great team. 661 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 662 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to this episode where Joel answered 663 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: a wide variety of questions and provided insights into having 664 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 3: a biblical view of the epicenter during these turbulent days. 665 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 3: If you found this podcast valuable, please click the subscribe 666 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 3: button on your podcast app. Share this episode with a 667 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 3: friend or family, member who might be interested, and please 668 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 3: don't hesitate to contact us. 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