WEBVTT - Dr. Fauci's Diaries 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.440 hillsdalet Hillsdale dot ed or. I encourage you to take 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.920 advantage of the many free online courses there, and of 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.280 course I'll listen to the Hillsdale dialogues, all of them 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.560 at Hugh for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:19.520 iTunes and Hillsdale Laurie and even Grace America. On this Monday, 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:23.720 July twenty seventh, I'm Hugh hewitt all Is for the 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:27.760 moment calm over the skies of Iran. We'll keep our 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.480 eyes on that and keep you posted about whether or 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.480 not it stays that way throughout the show. Senator Tom 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.959 Cotton coming along today, Doctor Michael Laurin Farmer, Israeli Ambassador, 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:42.120 the United States Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery, retired United States Navy, 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.600 will be along and more. Don't go anywhere. I start though, 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:51.400 with Doctor fauci diaries. Over the weekend, Rand Paul, Senator 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:56.040 from Kentucky, released Dr Fauci's diary, which had been turned 0:00:56.080 --> 0:01:00.440 over to the Senate, and they make for pretty extraordinary reading. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.720 Doctor Fauci had an ego problem. I interviewed him a 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.960 few times throughout COVID. I began as an admirer. Then 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:12.600 I grew increasingly skeptical, and by September of twenty twenty one, 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.399 I thought he should leave because I thought he was 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.720 doing a lot more harm than good. And he came 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:19.360 on the show and we talked about it. So when 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.760 I'm going to play a few cuts from that interview 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.800 from twenty twenty one September twenty ninth, twenty twenty one, 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:28.479 then I'm going to read you doctor Fauci's diary entry 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:34.319 cut number six. My interview with doctor Fauci asked, I'm 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.920 told by people in the room that you knew there 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.120 were a shortage of masks, so you told people not 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:41.959 to wear masks so that we didn't have a run 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.920 on masks. I actually understand that as public policy. I've 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.200 read the account, I've talked to the people in the room. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.840 I know that you purposely told the noble lie to 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.720 prevent us running out of masks in hospitals. I think 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.120 it's bad policy, but I understand the motive, and I 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.920 understand changing. I changed my mind every day. Yeah I'm 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.720 on the air. Every day, stuff happens. I change my mind. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.760 But what you said earlier. It's just facts. Sometimes it's 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.440 just a fact that Tony Fauci, not the guy I'm 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.120 talking with, but Tony Fauci, the person in people's mind, 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.120 is now an impediment to public health because people won't 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:23.360 listen to you. They actively reject what Tony Fauci says 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.959 for reasons which are complicated, I have to do with psychology, 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:30.519 mass communication, social media. But can you accept that if 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.720 that's just a fact, you ought to respond to it 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.240 and say, mister President, I think my time is up 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.760 as a successful and effective spokesperson. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.720 You know, with all due respect to you, you who 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.560 I do respect you and your intellect. I just completely 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.680 disagree with that premise because there are an awful lot 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.959 of people who do listen, who do the right thing 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.679 from a public health standpoint. So because there are a 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:01.320 lot of people who have ideas about conspiracy and changing 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.520 minds and flip flopping, that's not. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.320 A reason to step down, not at all. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:11.200 When I was involved forty years ago with HIV and 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:15.600 the activist community were looking at me as a representative 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.480 of the face of the federal government and we're trying 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.880 to get things done, and it looked like we were 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:29.560 at odds in the sense of really country essentially being 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.880 hostile to each other, which we weren't. That would have 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:37.400 been interpreted as g the people who were involved in 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:43.360 this particular difficult and devastating outbreak, don't like what you're doing. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:44.800 Why don't you step down? 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.320 As a matter of fact, as it turned out, we 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:52.880 got close, they understood. I brought them into the dialogue, 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:56.920 into the discussion, and the world and the community were 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.960 much better off with that. So the idea that people 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.160 right now are not listening to what I'm saying. 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.320 What I'm saying is the truth. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.320 All right? Cut number seven? Oh is there comes a 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.840 point where it is simply a matter of fact that 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.560 Tony Fauci in the era of social media is different 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.680 than Tony of Vauci at the beginning of HIV. And 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.520 if a new face for the program developed, we would 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.320 see an increase in vaccines, in an increase in booster use. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.159 So if that data is presented to you that more 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.560 people would get vaccinated if you left the scene, would 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.920 you leave the scene? Hugh? 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.919 I think that is a completely false narrative that people 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.839 are not getting vaccinated because of me. 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.320 I am very sorry. I've told you. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.880 I've known you a long time and I respect you, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:56.400 but I totally reject that people are not getting vaccinated 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:57.520 because of me? 0:04:58.279 --> 0:04:59.200 Are you kidding me? 0:04:59.320 --> 0:04:59.520 Hugh? 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:05.080 Come on, okay, cut number eight the view. But there 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.760 is a large segment of the American people that doesn't 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.560 trust you now, and that can't be undone. So I 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.479 want I want you to be able to just speak 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.760 to them. I know your heart, I know your public service. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.920 But if you're an obstacle to getting vaccination rates up, 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:24.960 should you step aside? 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.839 I am not an obstacle to getting vaccinations up. Qu 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.479 That is a completely false narrative that I would have 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.680 to absolutely reject. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.320 Okay, then then if you're are you persuadable on facts? 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.120 If people show you polling, would that change your mind? 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:43.560 Yeah? 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.440 So people are saying I'm not getting vaccinated because doctor 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.800 Fauci is in the government. Are you kidding me? 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:49.800 No? 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.600 Actually, I believe that's the truth. Doctor. I believe that 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:53.080 you have it. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.720 I'm sorry you that that is ridiculous. 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.800 How do you think you're understood by the center, right, doctor? 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.120 I really don't know that you know this. You might 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.800 have a blind side here. How do you think you're understood, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.760 not by conspiracy theorist. I'm not concerned with the three percent, 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.240 you're not concerned with the fifty nine percent. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:21.680 Yeah, but Hugh, you are creating an absolutely false narrative 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:26.000 that people sit down and say, you know, I don't 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:29.240 want I know that vaccines are good. I know that 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.880 they may save my life and that they may save 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.280 the life of my family, and that I have a 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:39.040 societal responsibility in order to keep this outbreak under control 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.039 and to get it really under control. But I'm just 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:46.120 not going to get vaccinated because of Tony Fauci hughe. 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.240 Not hearing me, No way, not hearing and then my 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.840 final cut from the September twenty ninth, twenty twenty one 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.560 interview cut number nine a doctor, you're not hearing me. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.359 I'm saying, people see you come on and they turn 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:05.120 off the channel because they don't like you. Whereas a 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.200 new face arrives, a new, younger face that says, okay, 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.520 new start. I'm never going to tell you that masks 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.680 don't need to be Warren, because I got it. If 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.600 a new person shows up, I think we're more effective. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:23.640 Last response to you, Okay, so you have Rachelle Wilenski, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:28.720 a new young face saying exactly the same thing. You 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:33.600 have the Vick Murphy, a new young face saying exactly 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:37.200 the same thing. So even though they are new young 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:41.920 faces and saying exactly the same thing, I'm saying, people 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:47.160 are not getting vaccinated because of me. Hugh, Sorry, you 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.000 go back and analyze that. That's I will. We'll have 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.360 that conversation. So he never came back. By the way, 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.560 he never came back because I suggest that you resigned. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.720 Turns out he went home and wrote a diary entry 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.640 that that I'll read to you right now. This is 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.480 doctor Fauci writing. Had a very tough and ridiculous interview 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.800 with Hugh Hewitt. Hugh, who is usually a reasonable albeit 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.880 very conservative person, was extremely aggressive with me in an 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.800 interview in which he kept insisting that people are not 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.760 getting vaccinated because I am telling him to get vaccinated 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.800 and strongly suggested that I step down and retire since 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.960 I'm an obstacle to people getting vaccinated. He quoted a 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.400 survey saying that middle to right people want me to 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.319 retire and are not getting vaccinated because I'm the messenger 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.719 telling them to get vaccinated. Truly, an incredible train of 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.040 thought on his part. He said we needed fresh faces 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.439 telling people to get vaccinated, and if we had fresh faces, 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.200 then people would get vaccinated. I countered by saying, we 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.680 do have fresh faces in the form of Rachelle Lensky 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.840 and Bevec Murphy. And so does he consider that, although 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.360 three of us are saying to get vaccinated, including two 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.760 new fresh faces, that people are not getting vaccinated and 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.040 merely because I'm one of three people telling them to 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:03.800 get vaccinated. Question. I've never heard a more distorted train 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.440 of thought. This conversation triggered in me some serious thinking 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.640 about several things, including when I would actually want to 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:16.080 retire from the untenable situation that I am in of 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.960 having tens of millions of people hate me because I 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.840 stand for the truth. Also, this nonsense about conflating the 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.640 discussion about gain of function with the lab leak theory 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.360 is preposterous and totally distracting and draining of everyone's energy. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.520 Richard Ebright, with his gain of function obsession, is a 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:39.040 total ahole who is pushing this theory because he wants 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.480 to be somebody. I'm terribly disappointed with. Jesse Bloom and 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.920 David Rollman for doing somewhat of the same thing. They 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.400 have been pushing to stop any gain of function research 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.839 for a long time, and I believe that in some 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.520 respects they are pushing for an eat and even hoping 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.240 for that. It was a lab leak, which the molecular 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.480 analysis of the viruses that we use in the lab 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.840 compared to virus stars OVID two clearly indicate is impossible. 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.480 The opposition to me is part of the big lie 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.360 locker up. Trump won the election January sixth with a 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.480 friendly visit to the Capitol the China virus and Trump 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.160 was correct fire foul chief. Since he was wrong all along, 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.800 let's discredit him. Quite frankly, I'm coming to the realization 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.360 that our democracy is truly threatened, and that it is possible, 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.679 even likely, that our democracy will crumble with the twenty 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.560 twenty four election. If Trump fin wins, we are finished. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.560 If Trump loses, his right wing lunatics will try and 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.320 overthrow the election, and where the attempts to have state 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.719 legislatures validate the electoral votes, I'm really afraid they might 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.120 be successful. Having said all of this, there's no way 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.800 I'm going to retire before this outbreak is under control. 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:49.240 I'll get your comments on doctor Fauci and that twenty 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:54.120 eight hundreds by two oh one two three Welcome back America. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.480 I'm you you at my phone numbers one eight hundred 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:02.000 and five to two oh one two three four my priors. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.840 I like doctor Fauci. I had at least two. I 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.120 can't remember how many times he was on. Doctor Collins 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.840 was on three times as well. I'm a big booster. 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.000 The booster I got the vaccine. I've been boosted twice. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.680 I'm done. I never got to my knowledge COVID, for 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:22.160 which I'm grateful. And I think doctor Fauci may have 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.480 just been the wrong guy at too old an age. 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:29.640 And his diaries are an indictment of ego. It's about 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:34.120 all about Tony, and you can read him kind of sad. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.840 It indicts a number of people in the media didn't 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.319 keep their distance appropriately from It's okay to like him, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.560 it's okay to get mad at him, but she can't 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.080 pal around with him. And I didn't never met him 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.320 in person, but after my tough interview and he wrote 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.080 that diary entry, I just want to go back in 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.800 the interview. If you were listening to the first segment, 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.920 he rejects my premise entirely that people aren't getting vaccinated 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.800 because of himself. But when he went to a Dear Diary, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:07.840 he wrote the conversation with Hugh triggering me some serious 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.920 thinking about several things, including when I would actually want 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:16.640 to retire from the untenable situation that I am in 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:21.199 of having tens of millions of people hate me because 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.160 I stand for the truth. All Right, The admission there 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.160 is that tens of millions of people hate him. If 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:31.280 you hate someone, it's highly unlikely they're going to persuade 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.960 you to get a vaccine or a booster. If you 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.320 hate someone, they're going to turn you up. That was 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.719 the point I was making to it. But what was 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.320 a revelation to me? I never really believed until this 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:51.200 weekend that doctor Fauci had TDS. But at the end 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.200 of this diaryh entry again. It's the September twenty ninth, 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.360 twenty twenty one diar entry of doctor Fauci released by 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.320 Senator Ran Paul. All of his diaries. The opposition to 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.120 me is part of the big lie, Lock her up. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.440 Trump won the election. January sixth, was a friendly visit 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.520 to the Capitol the China virus, and Trump was correct. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.640 Fire Fauci since he was wrong all along, and so 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:20.120 let's discredit him and so on. Quite frankly, Tauci continues, 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.440 I'm finally coming to the realization that our democracy is 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:28.680 truly threatened, and that it is possible, even likely, that 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.040 our democracy will crumble with the twenty twenty four election. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:37.520 If Trump wins, we are finished. If Trump loses, his 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.520 far right lunatics will likely try again to overthrow the election, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.440 and with the attempts to have state legislators republican validate 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:50.080 the electoral votes, I am really afraid that they might 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:54.120 be successful. Having said all of this, there's no way 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.480 that I am going to retire before the outbreak is 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:02.840 under control. Okay, that's full blown TDS. It's also an 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.560 admission against interest. It tells you he was aware of 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.959 exactly what I was trying to make the argument about, 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.280 and I don't wish him any ill. It's going to 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:16.800 be a long hearing with Doctor Paul, because those those 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.959 diaries go on and on and on and on and on, 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.160 and they're mostly about Tony Fauci on this show and 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:26.200 Tony Fauci on that show. And rarely did he run 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.560 into someone like me who would politely ask the obvious 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.040 questions about effectiveness. So I don't know how it's going 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.880 to go from here. But what do you think, Star 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.160 in Pennsylvania? I Star, You're on the Uquit show. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:40.880 Hi. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.840 You hope you're doing well? 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.880 I am. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:54.160 My opinion is I don't think that COVID was handled correctly. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:59.960 From the ghetto. My entire family did not get fascinated. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:05.920 We did not get COVID, and yet we watched friends 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:13.560 and other family members that did get vaccinated get COVID 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:15.320 and we lost some of them. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.320 Well, So I'm going to give you my I want 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.320 to be clear with the audience that's new to my show. 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.880 I did get vaccinated. Anecdotal evidence is evidence of anecdotes. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:31.080 The overwhelming evidence is that COVID was real, it was dangerous, 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.600 and the vaccines were efficacious. I got all my advice 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.160 during the entire year and a half to two years 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:42.479 from my older brother Microft, who is the PhD in toxicology. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.000 Who would you give me advice on this? He told 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.000 me avoid the Jay and Jay get the pfizer of 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.920 the Maderna. And I'm very, very grateful to the people 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.040 who developed it. And I know a lot of people 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.120 who died, not a lot, a few people who died 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:58.080 from COVID before the virus vaccine was available, So I 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.080 don't want to relitigate that. All I'm saying is that 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.680 when we have a public health crisis in the future, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:08.720 we can't let individuals put their egos in front of 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:13.040 science and effective communication. And I think doctor Fauci did that. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.680 I think he did a great disservice to the country 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.280 after about six months, and maybe there ought to be 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.720 a mandatory retirement age for people upon whom we don't 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.840 get to vote, because I think he was too old 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.920 to do the job. He fell in love with the coverage. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.440 I agree, I agree absolutely, I agree. 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.400 All right, Sar, thank you. I want to talk to 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.480 Mike in Glendora, California. Hello, Mike, you're on the huu 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.400 AT show one eight hundred five two oh one, two 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.960 three four. Take a couple more calls before I get 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:46.520 to get back to the other news. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.440 All right, thank you, Hugh. This is Mike, Givin and 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.840 Sophia taking their bar zam tomorrow. Listen. I wanted to 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.800 get you take okay, So that's so they're going to 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.040 be done hopefully. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:02.240 No pressure anyway, no pressure, You'll do fine. Remember, take 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.320 a deep breath. Read all the essay questions first, so 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.600 you can think about all of them simultaneously in the 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:08.359 back of your mind. 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.960 I'll pass that along. Listen, what are the chances that 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.480 doctor Fasci is going to show up and just say 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.760 nothing and take the fifth because I think some of 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.200 the information in these diaries, although I hadn't really looked 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.119 at it too much, from what I've heard, he's going 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:24.960 to take the fifth. He's not going to testify because 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.800 it's going to be incriminating, and I don't think that, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.359 you know, I think I think it's just too incriminated 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.399 for him. And I think the VEARS database shows there 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.800 was a heck of a lot more death and every 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:40.080 destruction due to the COVID then you know, the vaccines. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.720 Then it has been let on. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.440 If I was his lawyer, so I would advise him 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:50.719 to take the fifth at every question. Yes, okay, pursue 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.000 to the Fifth Amendment. I am not going to answer 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.200 that because of my right not to incriminate myself. The 0:17:56.520 --> 0:18:01.800 public record is now so dense with admissions against interest 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:03.640 and I'm just using the one that I did as 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:08.399 an example. There are lots more. They're years of these entries. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:12.000 So he goes at harm's way unless he has complete mastery, 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.240 and he's older now than I mean, he's five years 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:15.720 older than he was and then he was too old 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.679 to be doing it then. So I really hope I 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.840 think that the Fifth Yeah, that's what I would advise 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:23.280 him to do. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.119 So five hundred times he's going to take the Fifth 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.560 Amendment tomorrow, it's going to be He's not even it 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.480 would be ridiculous for him to even show up. In 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.320 my humble opinion, well, you got to. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.280 Show up because there's a subpoena and you go to 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.560 jail if you don't show up with a subpoena. But 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.160 the Fifth Amendment is real. It's one of the cornerstones 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:46.080 of American civil liberties. And if I'm his counsel, I 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.320 just get used to repeating that, and I would not 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.800 be baited into losing my temper. He can't win this argument. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.640 He's arguing with himself. I mean, you heard what I read. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.119 He's got full blown TDS. What if someone reads him 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.280 about that, but they read him that quote. 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:05.040 Yeah, and asies are fully incriminating. It's it is just 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.399 I think it's we'll hear the fifth tomorrow more than 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:09.800 we've ever heard anything else. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.080 I believe you are right, Mike, and good luck to 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.240 our bar examinees. They won't need it. They took my 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.080 conlog class. Thank you very much, Mike. I'll be right 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:24.320 back in America. Welcome back, America, so please to welcome back 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.280 Ambassador Michael or informer ambassador from Israel to the United States. 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:30.119 Back in the States. On behath of the tech me On. 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.720 You know, doctor Marne, I've heard about tech meon from 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.120 v Ready Gore and others. I don't think I could 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.000 have gotten into tech me on. Could you have gotten 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:37.680 into tech me On? 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.119 No way, no way. 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.120 I'm delighted to represent them. I'm in all of them. 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.840 Tech me On is in your life. It invented the 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:52.200 the USB, the Jiff, the tiff, the browser on your computer, 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:57.600 the Intel processor inside your computer. And while that iron dome, 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.760 Arrow two, arrow three, it's all techno. 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.600 There's MIT, there's MIT West, which is UCI, and now 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.560 there's MIT in the Middle East. And it TechEd me on. 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:08.440 So I'm glad that you're in the States. For them, 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.440 Doctor orr. As we speak Prime Minister net and Yah, 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.560 who is winging his way from Israel in the United States, 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.320 if he hasn't already landed. What is the best case 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.280 and worst case for what he brings home from his 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:21.560 meetings this week with President Trump. 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:24.760 Well, the worst case scenario, let's start with that, would 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.000 be if President Trump says to him, listen, you know 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.920 our interests have diverged. We understand that you really care 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.360 about that ballistic system in the hands of the Iranians. 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.880 You care about Iranian support for terror, you care about 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:36.800 the nuclear. 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:37.199 Program and the. 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.800 Height the enriched nuclear dust as the President called, And 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:43.360 what we really care about is the straight and our. 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.120 Moves and getting oil prices down. 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:46.760 And we're going to focus on that, and we're going 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.679 to pay the Iranians basically off to the two and 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.000 tens of billions of dollars to get those straits open again, 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.560 because that's what I need for the midterms. That would 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.160 be an absolute worst case scenario is not going to happen. 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:58.840 That The best case scenario, which I think is far 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.720 more likely, is that the President will say, we are 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:03.879 deep the committed to Israel security, We're deeply committed to 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:06.919 this alliance, and we remain committed to the goals we 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.760 set we set out at the beginning of this operation, 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.320 which are to end Iran's ability to make a nuclear weapon, 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.840 to end Iran support for terror, to end Iran's ability 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:20.640 to threaten its neighbors with thousands of intercontinental ballistic missiles, 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:23.919 to get rid of that highly enriched uranium in the 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:27.680 Iranian hands, and yes, to reopen the straight Hermos and 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:28.760 top and top of it all. 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:30.760 Okay, that's true. 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.359 I think that would be a very very important statement 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.359 for the president now. The president is the presidents also 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:41.159 said is intimated as support for Nathaneo Politically. In the 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.800 past he certainly come out in favor of a pardon, 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.760 a presidential pardon for nathanaw with face corruption charges. But 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:52.120 recently he said that Nazano was a great wartime prime minister, 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.960 which begs the question, Okay, is the war over and 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.720 Israel STU need a wartime prime minister. I think the 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:00.800 vast majority of Israeli's would agree we're still at war. 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.920 The question is whether that's now is their preferred wartime 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.600 prime minister. But some statement of that to that effect 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.560 would probably redound to BB's benefit. 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:17.600 Doctor Uran, not long after ten seven, your regular guest, 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.800 such a couple of years ago and many hundred interviews ago, 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.639 you said one of Israel's objectives after ten seven is 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.479 it has to re establish de terrence. I note the 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.040 dog that hasn't barked in the last two weeks is 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.159 that Iran went way out of their way not to 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.760 shoot at Israel. Has de terrence been restored. 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.720 Certainly Visa vi Iran definitely, and even his bula, his 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:41.080 bulla has stopped firing us. 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.879 And I think that the understanding of the Rians, and 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.160 I think it's an accurate understanding that we're single. 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:48.879 We're a single missile missile to hit. 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.359 Israel and RUnni and missile Israel to respond and respond 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.239 not in a restrained way or in a calibrated way. 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:57.159 The United States has been conducting military strikes over the 0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:58.200 last several weeks. 0:22:58.600 --> 0:22:59.520 Israel would go all out. 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.840 We're talking about basically igniting carg Island, igniting virtually the 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:09.120 entire energy producing sector of Iran. And once Israel attacked, 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.679 I don't think that if the President said, Okay, tonight, 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.880 you're stopping, I don't not sure that Israel would stop all. 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.679 Right now, This morning, Dan Seenoor and our friends who 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.600 meet Segal and Nada d y'all, we're talking about the 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:24.159 current situation. And one of them, I think it was 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.760 in Meat, said if the status quo ho no firing 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:31.800 of missiles but the blockade stays in place, the regime 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.760 will collapse by the end of the year. Do you 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:35.800 agree with him? 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:39.160 I certainly agree that the best course of action right now, 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.399 given the constraints, Okay, there are numerous constraints operating on 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:46.200 the President and Honors administration, would be to maintain the blockade, 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.880 maintain a certain amouticum of military pressure, get as many 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.520 ships through the tankers through the straits as possible. 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.399 But that will certainly put a stranglehold on Iran. 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.040 The right regime can't pay the salaries of the IRGC, 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:02.640 it can't pay the salaries of the besieged thugs, so 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:04.560 I can't put a stopper on it. Maybe you meet 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:09.400 know something I do don't, but that long term, long term, 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.040 this is the way to go. And I'm going to 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:12.920 go back to an article I wrote for Fox News, 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.200 what is about four or five months ago already, where 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.159 I said that the model for this war is not 0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.600 Iraq and Afghanistan. It's the Cold War, and after the 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:23.919 initial intense military phase, you moved to a blockade, and 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.400 you keep that blockade up for months and months and months, 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:30.480 and that'll eventually bring the regime down. So I agree eventually, 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.160 whether at the end of the year, I hope that meets. 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:37.600 Right now Arachi. They're foreign minister, and I don't know 0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:41.240 what his influence has said. If this trade isn't open 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.760 for us, it's not open for anyone. I don't believe 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.320 that's true anymore. I think they're afraid. Now what do 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.760 you think. 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.400 They should be afraid. I think they have every reason 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:53.240 to be afraid. You know, people were sort of certainly 0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:58.160 in the liberal mainstream press where we're revelating several weeks 0:24:58.240 --> 0:24:59.879 or months ago, how the audience had won the war 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:01.760 or they won the war. I don't think people say 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.240 the same thing that right now. I think the Irani 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.919 regime is deeply divided. I think that they are facing 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.240 economic crisis. There was even talk this week in that 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:13.960 same mainstreat press about the possibility of starvation in Iran. 0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:17.280 That was not the case several weeks ago. If they're 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.040 winning the war. Why are we afraid of of their 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.960 population starving to death? So I think that there is 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:26.920 vulnerability here, but the president in the old reagn regunite 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.520 way has to has to stay the course. 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.639 Okay, last question, Ambassador Michael Lauren. Israel has had a 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:38.120 three or four month pause. I assume that your defense industry, 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:41.879 like our defense industries, have been working over time on interceptors. 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.840 What's the scuttle about in Israel about the preparedness for 0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:47.800 around three if it comes. 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.160 Prepared prepared and I hope I don't mean to cast 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:56.080 aspersions on anybody's industrial loutbook, but we tend to produce 0:25:56.280 --> 0:26:00.240 interceptors much faster than the United States does. And though 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.400 part of our intercapits are produced in the United States 0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:07.280 by agreement, whether it's because our people operating under that 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.959 type of pressure that if they don't produce those intertaptors. 0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.119 Their families are going to be in danger. It's very 0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:11.760 very personal. 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:13.440 So we produce them. 0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:17.400 And according to Israeli estimates, we are in decent shape. 0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.959 Are you sharing with your Arab friends like the UAE. 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.520 Yes, we had during the last round, we did share. 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.720 So if I think it goes to the fact that 0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.320 we are in good shape, because we wouldn't be the 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.760 physician to share if we didn't have enough. 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.520 Well said as always, Ambassador Michael Orran. Follow him on exit. 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.480 D R Michael Uran, good luck to you on your 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.880 fundraising and support trip for tech meon the whole world 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.399 depends upon tech meon whether or not people know it. 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.679 I learned it by listening to a bunch of Israeli 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.399 podcasts and the Doctor Oran. Follow them on actual Dr 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.400 Michael Oran. Dr Michael Urran, I'll be right back in America, 0:26:54.520 --> 0:27:01.800 straight tuned to the viewers show Back America. I'm Hugh Hewett, 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.960 joined now by United States Senator Tom Cotton from Arkansas. 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.040 Senator Cotton, I'm a bit of billion I'm a new 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:11.000 grandfather today, so that's a bit of good news. Let 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:15.360 me ask you about what I promised the audience. Senator 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.960 Collins is facing a fellow named Troy Jackson. You work 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.359 pretty closely with Senator Collins on the Intelligence Committee and 0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:24.199 your chairman of the conference, of which she's been a 0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:27.080 member for a long time. How do you assess that race? 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.240 More importantly, how do you assess Susan Collins? 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.520 Well, first off, you congratulations to you and the fetching 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:38.879 missus Hewett for your latest year grandchild. That's very exciting news. Second, 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.720 Susan Collins is an count standing Senator for the state 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:48.159 of Maine. She works tirelessly. She'saw the hardest working senator. 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.040 In the US Senate. 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.520 Anytime you sit down with her in a meeting or 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.560 a Mady hearings, she has papers that are marked up 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:59.199 in her own handwriting. She's a great voice for the 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.879 Pine Tree State. Americans know her for her leadership on 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:07.800 national security and biomedical research, and Maynor's lover for that too. 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:11.120 But I can tell you just her main issues. Maners 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.280 shouldn't hope to have a better, better senator. A few 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.440 years back, when she was hosting one of her lunches 0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:18.760 that she does each year, when she brings she caters 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.639 lobster down from the Pine Tree State. It's pretty cracked, 0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.560 so people like me from Arkansas don't have to know 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:27.480 how to eat lobster for which so she calls it 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.760 lazy lobster, which it tastes so good, though I don't 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:33.280 take a sense to it. She described how the Biden 0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:40.040 administration was imposing regulations that threatened to put lobsterman out 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.600 of business in Maine, and as you know, Hugh, that's 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.520 a way of life up there, not so much in 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.720 places like Arkansas or the Rocky Mountain Wes where we 0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:51.360 have a lot of Republican senators. But she's so she 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.160 does her homework so well, she's so compelling, so persuasive, 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.800 that we all banded together to help her beat back 0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.520 this regulation and preserve Main's way of life. So I 0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.560 think she's a great senator. The people, to say the 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.680 man are very lucky to have her. I encourage everyone 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.840 listening to go to Susancollins dot com to contribute, and 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.960 if you're in Maine, don't just know there to contribute, 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:12.480 to sign up and find out how you can help 0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:13.360 Susan Collins. 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:15.760 Now I wanted to drill down a bit. You're chairman 0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.040 of the Intel Committee. It's a select committee, but I'm 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.760 not really sure how one gets on it or how 0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:25.400 often it meets the course highly secret, but how does 0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.400 one end up on that? Because she's on there, as 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.360 is her seat mate hangu Is King, independent from me. 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:36.600 That's a choice strictly by the two party leaders. So 0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.480 for my time in the Senate, it's done. It was 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:43.160 done by Sinat McConnell and then last year by Center Thoon. 0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.320 But it's not a committee that's designed just by seniority, 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.000 as most committees are in the Senate. But as a 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:53.200 select committee, it's chosen by the leadership. And that's because 0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.160 obviously it deals with very sensitive matters and I think 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.480 the leaders of the Senate want to make sure that 0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.760 senators there we're going to handle this matters appropriately, as 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:03.880 Susan obviously does. And for that matter, it's a very 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.040 hard working committee. I mean, we have by far the 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.680 most meetings and the most hearings of any committee I have. 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.560 It's just not widely known because it happens behind closed doors. 0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.000 But Susan juggles that along with being the chair of 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:20.120 the very important Appropriations Committee and all of her other work. 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.800 So again, I hope everyone listening will go to Susancollins 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:24.240 dot com and find a way to help her in 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.520 this election against the guy who may not have a 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.120 Nazi tattoo, Hugh, but he has the same socialist view 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:30.080 as that Graham platform did. 0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:34.320 Oh he's a journeyman too. They really they were down 0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.400 to their last swing at bat, and they had a 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:40.560 ground ball dribbler easily, fieled. Let me ask you about 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.400 the Appropriations Committee. I know that you cross paths. You're 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.040 on the Armed Services Committee, and you're responsible to that 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.960 committee for the National Defense Authorization Act. But then it's 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.600 got to get funded by the Appropriations Committee. And that 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:56.080 includes bat Iron Works where they make the early Burke destroyer. 0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:00.360 They build submarines in Portsmouth, which is in part shared 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:04.200 by the main jurisdiction. I assume Centat Collins is a 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.160 ferocious advocate for the national defense. 0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.600 Yeah, very much so, Hugh. As a member of the 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.840 Appropriations Committee, she's made sure that the shipbuilding industry as 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.400 well as all the military facilities and name are well 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.080 taken care of. She's an advocate for adding a second 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.440 storyer up there at Math. She's been a passionate advocate 0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:23.760 for that. 0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:25.560 But there's an. 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.520 Example of how irresponsible the Democrats have become in their 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:34.600 opposition to all things Trump, that they're willing to sacrifice 0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.000 in national security. They've blockaded, as you said, the National 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.160 Defense Authorization Act. That means they've also blockaded the Intelligence 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.920 Authorization Act, which passes along with the Defensi Village Year. 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:48.000 They're blocking Susan's appropriations bills. She's tried to move a 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.760 defense funding bill already this year, but the Democrats are 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:55.160 united and blocking it all. They're blocking the reauthorization of 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.920 section seven oh two of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Acts, 0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.240 probably our most important tool to collect intelligence not just 0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.800 on Terrace, but on Iran and Russia and China and 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:08.720 other adversaries. This is a across the board blockade by 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:12.840 Democrats in the Senate. There's appareling their national security. And 0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.880 that's why every Democratic senator up for reelection should be 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:16.960 called on the carpet board. 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.840 Now, do you have any idea yet whether Republicans are 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.240 going to give up and go to a continuing resolution 0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.760 which is bad for the Pentagon, bad for the national defense, 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:32.400 or use reconciliation to fund defense in the interim. 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:37.240 I don't think those are necessarily either, or I think 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.360 it's probably prudent to pass a continuing resolution that would 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:46.040 fund the government into November, so the Democrats don't engage 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.440 in the kind of reckless shutdown right before the election 0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.040 on October one that they did last fall over the 0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:57.240 Biden Obamacare COVID bonuses, or in January when they shut 0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:02.320 down immigration enforcements for several weeks. Also pass funding for 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:06.200 the Department of Defense, either through reconciliation or if the 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.920 Democrats come to their senses and will operate. Because of 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.240 the urgent need that Secretary exact late that last week 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.960 through a traditional supplemental funding deal. But it's vitally important 0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.640 that we fund the department sooner rather than later. 0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:22.480 All right, last question, Senator, how do you assess the 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:25.520 quiet period we are in right now? After thirteen days 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:27.800 or strikes in your run, there is no more MoU 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.400 There are allegedly indirect negotiations going on in a couple 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.880 of places. Who knows. How do you assess the situation? 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.360 Well, the President has said that if Iran backs down, 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.200 then he won't strike back at them, at least along 0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.080 the facilities and weapons that they're using on their southern coast. 0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:49.880 Try to harash shipping in the straight up removes, and 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:55.840 it was clear to me at least that Iran was 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:59.120 never going to engage in serious negotiations and better to 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.600 finish the military operational plan and then just imposed the blockade. 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.880 The President did and then lift it and is done again. 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:08.560 I think that's probably still the best force of action 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.160 that will make sure that Iran can't militarily threaten the 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.640 United States or our friends can't build a nuclear weapon 0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:15.280 for many. 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:15.640 Many years. 0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.160 And also that walled us to the straight up removes 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.040 and keeps prices of gas and diesel and other products 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.760 down for America's consumers and businesses. 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:26.840 And I just want to give you the chance to 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.719 remember Lindsey Graham. I don't think you've been on the 0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:32.319 broadcast and Senator Graham died. His sister Darlene has been 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.560 endorsed by you to continue on in service at South 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.880 Carolina as the other senator. But you had to have 0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:41.000 worked very closely with Lindsley for the decade or twelve years. 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:42.200 You've been in the Senate. 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.359 All the time, Hugh, all the time, especially on foreign 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.160 policy and national security. Lindsay was a patriot. He loved 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.360 our country, he loved anyone who loved our country, and 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:54.360 he fought for anyone who would fight for freedom. He 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:58.360 was a true character. He went about the job joyfully 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:02.160 and cheerfully, and showed everyone that you can take the 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.800 work seriously without taking yourself for each other too seriously. 0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:06.480 And he's already deeply missed. 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.359 But I know he's went. 0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.560 To heaven to meet his rewards, and one day we'll 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.520 probably join him up there and have a good laugh 0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:15.240 together again. 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:19.520 He'll be leading the conversation. Senator Tom Cotton, Thank you. 0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:24.240 Follow the Senator on exit send Tom Cotton. Scn Tom Cotton, 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.759 follow me the next segment right here on to you 0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:31.120 view it ship. Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewitt, 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.040 joined now by columnist to the world, Selena Zito. You 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.719 can follow her on exit Zito. Selena. You can read 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.640 everything she writes at Selenazito dot com. She writes for 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.200 The Washington Post, the New York Post, the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, 0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:47.520 the Washington Examiner, and everybody who needs a story. And 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.120 she's working on a book, The United States of Appalachia. 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.000 So you don't want to listen to hour three, Selena, 0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:57.879 because our new Georgia Congressman Clay Fuller represents that part 0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:01.279 of Georgia where the Appalachia extends to, which is I 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.239 hope you're going to cover Georgia in your book, are you. 0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:08.120 I'm heading down to Georgia next this week, this week, 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:12.440 and it's Appalachia, Okay, say Appalachia to Appalachia. 0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:17.200 Well, Clay Fuller replaced the Marjorie Taylor Green and that 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:22.799 was the Appalachia District. And I don't even know what 0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:26.439 it's like. I didn't. I was unaware until you told 0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.400 me that it went to Georgia, and I didn't know 0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:32.000 the district that ended in. Where are you going in Georgia? 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:33.520 All over the place. 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.560 I'm leaving from the inception in New York and going 0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:40.439 all the way down to Georgia, following the four hundred 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:46.040 and thirty two counties that are part of the government's 0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.839 outline of where Appalachia is now. 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.400 Is there a poorest part of Appalachia? Is there like 0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:58.000 the stereotypical image from movies? 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.399 Well, I mean I think ports of Kentucky in West 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:09.040 Virginia largely due to their there's no connection to major roads, right. 0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:14.640 That's in transportation. People forget how much transportation matters when 0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:18.360 it comes to a community thriving. And if you don't 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.640 have roads, if you don't have interstates, and if you're 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.880 or you don't have a rail line, your community suffers 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.719 because you need to get goods in and goods out 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:32.040 towards in and tourist out. That's always been Appalachia's biggest challenge. 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.319 You know, that's interesting. I think Clay Fuller, the New 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.799 Georgia congressman, I think he got put on transportation, which 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:41.719 would make sense to if he's got mountains. So, uh, 0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:43.480 you're not driving that, are you? 0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.440 Come, of course I am. 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.320 So what's your mister GPS tell you? Is the time 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:55.279 in the car not counting for your long breaks at 0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.200 the local watering holes and talking to the newspaper people. 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.279 Well, you know, I haven't had I don't have the 0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:04.520 whole thing mapped out. 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:05.920 I'm leaving Thursday. 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.920 I've got to sort of figure out my best route 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.040 to go. I could do the Great Wagon Trail, which 0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:17.600 is where most of the people that originally settled in 0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:21.680 our country in the first thirteen colonies, they went down 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.680 the mountain the Great Wagon Trail, which left Philadelphia went 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:30.239 down into Maryland, West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky. 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.479 So I think I'm going to try to stick to. 0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:36.200 That original route and then come back up into the 0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:37.320 seams that I miss. 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:42.000 So you're skipping Ohio again, No, not at all. 0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.239 I'm actually ending in Ohio. A lot of it is 0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:49.319 a very important part of the Appalachia, and you know, 0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:53.000 a lot of the migration out of Mississippi came to 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:57.239 places like Toledo and Ohio and Detroit to work in 0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.000 the factories and into you know, whether they were making calls, 0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:01.480 are making steel. 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:03.680 That's how you have a great. 0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:08.440 Inflow flux of the black population up into Ohio and 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.360 Pennsylvania and Michigan. 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:14.080 It's a very important part of the story of the region. 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.640 Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, your book isn't going to 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:18.120 include Michigan, is it? 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:19.400 No? 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:20.000 Michigan? 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.600 Okay, good, just wanted to check your throwing that that 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:27.120 stayed up north the end of the catalog and states 0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.880 don't they don't get a line. When is your dudate? 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:34.359 And when is when's your deadline? And when's your pub date? 0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.439 Deadline is in February next year. Pub date is about 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:40.600 a year after that. 0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:44.160 Oh, in time for the election. Yeah. 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.279 But I'm doing it with Brad Todd, just the way 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.560 we did with a Great Revolt. So it'll be another 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.359 collaboration and I'm really excited about it. 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:54.880 Is there a political angle to this, Selena Zdo, Is 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.320 they're going to be like, these are the people who've got. 0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.280 A lot please politics and culture. 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:04.760 I mean it's very culture oriented in how this culture, 0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:08.040 the Appalachian culture is now. You know, it used to 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:12.040 be like Apivlacchia was peculiar, the people from there were peculiar, 0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.000 and now everyone sort of wants to be part of it. 0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:15.439 Right. 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.359 Who's what's the song they sing the most at any 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.640 kind of sports, big gathering. 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:25.120 It's Country Roads. Country Roads is set in Appalachia. 0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:29.360 You know, the area of our country of people's clothing, 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:35.480 people's music, people's search for individualism, and places where they 0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:41.120 can have more freedoms all are located in that Appalachian region. 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.920 And what is interesting to me now is. 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:50.400 That the places that are considered peculiar are La in 0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:52.920 New York right there. 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.320 All of a sudden, they are the peculiar places. 0:40:55.360 --> 0:41:00.400 And Appalachia is having this long awaited moment of people 0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:06.000 understanding respecting this culture that really has been Most of 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:11.640 our presidents were born in Appalachia. Most of our music, 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.799 our food, everything just comes from this place. 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:19.440 I got a very dad question, and we're contemporary, so 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.880 it's not a dad question, it's a frank question. Amy 0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.239 Semple McPherson is widely regarded and it's asserted that She 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.640 was the first woman to drive across the country solo, 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.520 and there were safety concerned. How do you take care 0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.920 of yourself when you're traveling alone along these country roads. 0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:41.440 Well, I would just say that I'm from Pennsylvania and 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.880 the gun culture is a very important part of Pennsylvania upbringing. 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.840 That's enough, st because we don't want to alert the 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:53.480 authorities in New York. All right, we don't want to 0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:56.200 alert the gun grab in states. But other than New York, 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:57.360 I think you're safe, aren't you. 0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:02.400 Yeah, they always stay that Pennsylvania doesn't have reciprocity with 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.000 I think still have to double check that is South Carolina. 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:10.040 Oh well, they wouldn't bother anyway, they'd be up. They 0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.879 look at your sideways if you weren't carrying. But I mean, 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.640 do you have friends, do you stay with families along 0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:16.960 the way? Do you stay in hotels? 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.600 I usually try to stay at a bed and breakfast, 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:24.040 mainly because the people that own those are small business 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.440 people and they really know where all the bodies are 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.920 buried in town, right, they have all the golf said. 0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:33.160 They literally you know, yeah, they do, they do. So 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:35.240 that's that's usually my approach. 0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.520 Well, I hope we touch you on the road, Selena, 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:42.200 have a great that's your summer vacation Appalachia driving driving. 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.640 They have a good soundtrack for the road. Stay safe 0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:48.680 and check in Selena, Zito follower on exit and Zito Selena. 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.480 I begin with Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery, retired from the 0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:56.600 United States Navy, Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Defensive Democracy. Admiral. 0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.799 Last time we talked, we were talking about what air 0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:04.959 campaign against Iran might looked like. We've had thirteen days 0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:09.400 of it. Is it what you expected, you know, for. 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.520 What they were attempting to achieve then, which was just 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.120 the pullback from them, you know, trying to reduce the 0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:17.719 ability of the IRGC to impact flow through the straight 0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.880 or her moved. So these were strikes against maritime targets, 0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:27.280 you know, missile drone launchers, the storage facilities, radars, beaconing 0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:30.080 devices all in the Strait and on the islands that 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:33.920 Iron occupies in the Strait. Additionally, they hit bridges that 0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.000 from mobility of things coming into the bonder or bus area. 0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.960 I had hoped what the President was talking about a 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:45.839 few days ago was an expansion to hit the state 0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:47.400 owned enterprises. 0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:48.080 Owned by the IRGC. 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.120 You know they control a large part of construction, shipbuilding, 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:56.359 telecommunications in Iran. If we're going to impose our will 0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:00.239 on the IRGC a faster way than the blockade, which 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:02.600 is a way to do it is to actually take 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.319 away their money making activities. 0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:08.440 Do you think it is advisable to keep the blockade 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.279 in place regardless of how the negotiations go. 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:15.600 Absolutely, I mean we've got to. 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:20.760 I don't believe Iran deals in good faith in any measure, 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.840 but we'll get a better faith if they're under pressure 0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:30.480 and the blockade serves to prevent anywhere from twenty to 0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:35.400 thirty billion dollars a month worth of of of crude 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:39.439 and gas sales externally to India and China. So yes, 0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.399 absolutely I would keep it in place. I'd remind them 0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:46.120 they effectively have a blockade on the Southern transit scheme 0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:49.000 by threatening to strike ships and the ships being unwilling 0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:50.400 to transit because. 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:50.760 Of that threat. 0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:53.880 Now I know that you going back and forth to 0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.360 Ukraine a lot. I'm sure you followed as a result 0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:03.800 that Iran threatened Ukraine today because Ukraine intercepted a shipment 0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:06.879 across the Caspian Sea. Probably if she drons. Who knows 0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:10.359 what they were sending. Does Ukraine actually have to worry 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.719 about anything from Iran or are they just going to 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.040 resupply Russia if they're allowed to. 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.560 So I don't think Iran is going to be giving 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.200 any of its limited shahads, you know, it's you know, 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:28.080 it's inventorya shaheads to Russia. They've already given them the 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.560 plans to build them in Russia's building their own. So 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:36.160 I think that's a shallow threat, but it's a reminder 0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:40.120 to us that Ukraine is fighting four countries Russia, China, 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:41.000 North Korean, Iran. 0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:42.560 In fact, North Korea maybe. 0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:47.160 Getting up thirty thousand more troops to send over. 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:47.799 To Russia to fight. 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.480 And just like in Iran, with Iran, we're fighting Iran, Russia, 0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:54.919 and China at the same time because Russian and China 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:59.640 are assisting Iran. This is a contest between countries aligned, 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.160 you know, with the global order in the United States 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:06.280 and free trade and the access of authoritarians China, Russia, 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.840 India and North Korea, excuse me, Iran and North Korea. 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:10.440 And we need to treat that. 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.319 We need to treat these conflicts that way, and the 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:16.359 Europeans to get off their backsides and stop, you know, 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:20.160 and support US in Iran like they support Ukraine versus Russia. 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:24.399 Now, Admiral Montgomery I talked to earlier with Ambassador Oran, 0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:27.600 and he agreed with me. It appears as though Israel 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.480 has re established deterrence visa the Iran. They've gone out 0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.440 of their way not to hit Israel in this latest 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:37.480 round of combat. Do you think that that deterrence is 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:40.040 firmly and fully estop. They're afraid of Israel and what 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.480 they might do if they bring them back into the battle. 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:49.680 But yes, because it's a it's not a good trade 0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.719 space for them. If you bring Israeli and you get 0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.279 one hundred and fifty to two hunred and fifty to 0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:58.200 three hundred strikes a night from Israel and they're firing back. 0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.480 Was largely unsuccessful. The drones do not make it to Israel. 0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:05.920 It's too long a distance US and then Israeli aircraft 0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.799 shoot them down, just like drones don't normally get to 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.640 Jordan or to western Saudi Arabia because strategic depth is important. 0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.680 Just like Ukraine shoots down most Shahed drones headed towards 0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:21.160 Leviv or Kiv because of distance ballistic missiles are not 0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:25.520 getting through against Israel because Israel has its own arrow 0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:30.960 David Slang, US THAD and then US standard missiles on 0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.799 board those ships off the coast of Haifa. That's an 0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:38.920 integrated and layered air defense system that Iran doesn't penetrate easily. 0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:42.320 So it's bad trade space for them to go after 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:44.200 to engage Israel on this. 0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.120 Now, Adam, I've heard some of your colleagues at the 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:51.479 Foundation for Defensive Democracy, primarily Richard Goldberg, they really want 0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:55.359 to hit Pickaxe Mountain. Is there a world in which 0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.960 that's not useful? Or do you think we might have 0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:01.200 intelligence that tells us it's not really finished or even 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:02.080 close to completion. 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:05.640 So I have to believe you. 0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.080 I joined rich in thinking there's something in there. Look, 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:09.600 I can't tell you what it is. I don't get 0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:13.600 that kind of classification brief. I think there's something in there. 0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:16.799 I think if I know the Air Force targeteers, they're 0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:18.960 working hard to figure out how some of our weapons 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.880 systems can do some kind of penetration. Even if we 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:25.480 can't do you know, a midnight hammer attack like we 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.680 did on four Toho on it, maybe we can put 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:31.920 a few weapons into the access points in order to 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.040 make it very uncomfortable to live there, make it impossible 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:38.239 to ensure due to structural damage. Even if we can't 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:41.200 destroy everything inside it, we can make it much less 0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:42.400 valuable to their audience. 0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:48.319 So how do you assess President Trump's strategic ambiguity. I 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.719 have no idea what he's going to do. I don't 0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:54.120 think anybody has any idea what he's going to do, 0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:57.120 which I think is sort of the definition of unpredictability, 0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:01.080 which is useful in international affairs. Should he be more 0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:03.400 clear to the Iranians or is it clear enough? 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:08.520 So there are cases where strategic ambiguity it was a 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:09.360 useful policy. 0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.160 It might have been a useful one with Taiwan. 0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:15.359 Until recently, I think the President's moved from ambiguity right 0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:18.400 called strategic uncertainty. Like you're not certain from day to 0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:22.280 day what the president President's strategy is and it does. 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:23.240 Move around a lot. 0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:30.360 Look part of his that unpredictability that becomes a strategic uncertainty. 0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:34.359 That unpredictability has a to turn effect. But at some. 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:37.640 Point, you know, back and forth, back and forth, I 0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:41.880 think it loses its value with the same competitor, like Iran, 0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:46.360 you know, over like fifteen weeks, like it has, I 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.000 don't think it has that same effect. I still think 0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.879 it has an effect on China and on Russia when 0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.239 they try to assessor even North Korea, when they try 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:55.719 to assess what we would do in a case of 0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.719 South Korea, Taiwan or the Baltics. You know, they don't 0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:01.040 know which way he'll go. But with Iran, I think 0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:02.000 it's run its course. 0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:07.239 So wrapping up here, how do you assess the Iranian 0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:10.680 leadership's view of the battle space and how do you 0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:14.560 assess Putin's view of the battle space? Because they're both authoritarians. 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.400 I think Beahedi's running Iran. I don't care about Arachi 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:20.560 or the president. I care about Bahidi, and Putin is Putin, 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.879 He's running everything. How do you think they're viewing both 0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:23.719 of these conflicts? 0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:28.960 So I think with Vahidi, I mean I think he 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:33.720 thinks he can outlast Trump. That Trump's got elections in November, 0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.240 and at some point President Trumble would be more interested 0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:40.160 in that than he is in in a free and 0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:45.160 open straighth hor moves. That may be a misjudgment by Bohdi, 0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:47.600 but I think that's where he says, Putin's in a 0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:53.280 different position. Putin is suspending reality, taking briefs from jurisim office, 0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.919 is general staff commander and believing that there's a way 0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:00.920 forward in Ukraine, which there is not. He Putin, I 0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:04.520 promise you, is misleading himself. I'm not sure whether Bahdi 0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:05.000 is or not. 0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:08.720 Now the price of oil dropped to eighty two dollars 0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:12.680 at Baryl. That tells me that maybe the southern route 0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:16.680 through the Strait is more robust than I had assumed. 0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:20.040 Is that what you think as well? 0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:22.680 I'm not sure that the day to day it's really hard, 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:24.680 and part of it's how the president speaks about it. 0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:27.840 I will say this, I told you since the beginning, 0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:30.480 since April, that I believe in convoy operations. That's what 0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:33.279 I did in the late nineteen eighties the US Navy did. 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:34.719 I think we're going to have. 0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:38.920 To have destroyers, like two destroyers a company three VLCC 0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:41.319 is the very large CREUD carriers, you know, those two 0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:43.879 million barrels and maybe the big LNG ships and bring 0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:45.399 them out and bring the empties in. 0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:47.160 Bring them out and bring the empties in. 0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:50.680 And it's risky for the US Navy riskier than sitting back, 0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:54.160 but it also provides the confidence to the merchant ships 0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:56.360 that they can go because they got the US Navy 0:51:56.560 --> 0:52:00.160 one thousand yards away, They've got fighter aircraft overhead, they 0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:02.399 can see arm pilos patrolling in front of them. 0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:04.520 Then I think you can get a moving back and forth. 0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:08.000 We can get back up to ten to twelve million 0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:11.480 barrels a day through that Southern Straight transit. When combined 0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:15.799 with the Saudi and Amordi pipelines, that gets you to 0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:19.640 pre warflow. So I think it's achievable, but you have 0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:21.279 to take a little bit of risk, and you have 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:24.360 to keep pounding. Anyone who pops up looking like they 0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:27.080 want to launch needs to get a j dam very fast, 0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.400 a precition gout administion for the United States very fast. 0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:32.440 Well, last a question we got less than the annimal. 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:35.360 Do you think that the eighty and his inner circle 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.279 are persuaded of what happens if they kill any more 0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:40.319 Americans or hitting an American patroship. 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:43.520 I don't know. 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:47.000 Because they fired a balistic missil Jordan clearly aimed at 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:49.320 the transient barracks. 0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.319 In my mind, that was a pretty direct hit on 0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:53.360 a transient barracks. 0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:56.359 They are willing to risk killing Americans, and I think 0:52:56.360 --> 0:52:57.240 that's a big mistake. 0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:01.600 Adamial Mark Montgomery from the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy. 0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:03.080 He's always good to talk to you. Thank you for 0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:05.920 the update, Look forward to the next one. Don't go anywhere, America. 0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:08.400 I'll be right back here on the You do a 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:15.200 show with Philip Wegman of the Wall Street Journal, Welcome 0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:18.520 back in America. I co Dowitt. Philip Wegman is a 0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:23.080 regular feature on the panel on Fox News Special Report 0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:25.400 with Brett Bahar and I've shared the panel with him before, 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:27.279 so I've met him in the green room before. I 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:28.880 had a few chats with him, But I did not 0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:32.400 expect his first Wall Street Journal article that I saw 0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:35.840 to be about Richard Nixon. It's called Young Conservatives have 0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:42.120 an Unlikely new Icon, Richard Nixon. It's all about Nixon maxing. Philip. Welcome, 0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.319 It's good to have you on the program. First of all, 0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:45.320 how do you like the journal? 0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:50.400 Wall Street Journal is fantastic. I'm surrounded by killers here, 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:51.880 just the best in the business. But I've got to 0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:55.480 say talking with you about President Nixon, a man who 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:59.400 you knew, And then also talking about his renaissance, something 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.400 that you helped kick off with your work at the 0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:05.080 Nixon Foundation. The irony's not lost on me, because you 0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:08.200 have forgotten more about the thirty seventh president than I 0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:09.839 could probably ever hope to learn. 0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.720 But the youngs are the ones who did it after 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:16.880 I left. So all honored to Jim Byron and everybody 0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:19.880 else out there, Joe Lopez, Chris rob all the group 0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:23.480 that have actually made it fun for young people to 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:25.879 learn about Nixon. How'd you figure out this story? Because 0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:27.239 I shouldn't tell you anything about it. 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:34.880 Well, there had been sort of a lower key rumbling 0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:38.760 about Nixon. You would see a lot of younger conservatives 0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:45.640 posting either his speeches or historical fiftieth anniversary events about him. 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.399 But what I started to notice increasingly was that, yes, 0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:53.200 while this was organic and there are certainly real Nixon 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.120 fans out there, it was the Nixon Foundation who was 0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:58.880 really pushing this guy's legacy. And what I think is 0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:01.799 interesting about this, What I think is new, is that 0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:06.160 while the Nixon Foundation released the tapes, so to speak, 0:55:06.320 --> 0:55:09.799 they weren't acting like a normal presidential library. They were 0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:14.239 explicitly trying to reach a younger audience millennials and gen 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:18.719 z to make arguments about the president's legacy, and they 0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:21.680 were doing it in an unconventional way. They were making 0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.600 these arguments with memes and hype videos. And I talked 0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:27.319 to a number of young Republicans who said that this 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.960 was the gateway drug for them to really re examine 0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:34.279 the legacy of someone who they had been taught, you 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.200 know since middle school and high school, is the chief 0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:39.720 presidential villain of American history. 0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:42.920 Yeah, it's common for the library to invite authors out there. 0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:45.840 They Vice President Vance there a few weeks ago. Brett 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:48.399 Behar is often there when he has a book come out. 0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:52.160 But probably the breakthrough person that byronnett All got out 0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:56.360 to the library was comfortably Smug Because Smug's got a 0:55:56.520 --> 0:56:00.000 very young demo in a very irreverent way about him. 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:03.120 That was just genius on their part to get Smug there. 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.000 And I think they're keeping it up. Did you talk 0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:07.680 to them about their future plans for twenty twenty seven 0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:10.240 and beyond, Well. 0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:13.720 They have so much in the archive. 0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:17.839 There's so much history that they can repackage and use 0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:20.120 to reintroduce to a younger audience that it wouldn't be 0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:23.080 surprised if we continue to see this takeoff. But I'm 0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:26.760 glad that you mentioned comfortably Smug, because what he did 0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:30.799 is he sort of brought his irreverence and married that 0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:34.319 to the historical record. What I think is going on 0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:38.440 here is for a lot of these younger conservatives, they 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:41.360 see Nixon as the ghost in the machine of the 0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:44.799 Trump administration. They believe that he is confronting the same 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:49.040 enemies as Richard Nixon. He has of the same challenges. 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:52.799 And you know, one Nixon fan told me that they 0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.640 felt the United States was still stuck in nineteen sixty eight. 0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:57.120 And so what Smug has. 0:56:57.040 --> 0:56:59.680 Done, and I think a lot of other Nixon fans have, 0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:02.719 you know, followed suit, is they've adopted this sort of 0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:07.799 low stakes irreverence. They've adopted a middle finger to the establishment. 0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:11.840 No one's gonna chew you out for wearing a Richard 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:15.440 Nixon hat, but you know that is going to inspire, 0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:19.000 you know, reflection into what previously had been a villain. 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:21.640 And you know, it was Chris Rufo, for instance, who 0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:25.680 told me that the importance of Nixon, more than ideology, 0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:30.880 more than any policy accomplishment, was that by taking back 0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:35.480 his image Conservatives and Republicans are finally saying that they 0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:39.680 are no longer going to outsource their heroes to the left, 0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.360 that they're going to write the stories of their own heroes. 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:46.160 It's a new paradigm for presidential libraries. That's for sure. 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:50.000 We do want visitors to go to all the presidential libraries, 0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:51.920 but they got to work at it. Not surely going 0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:54.320 to coax many people into the Obama LISC up there 0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:57.080 in Chicago. That's very forbidding. It's like entering a castle 0:57:57.120 --> 0:58:00.760 of doctor Doom. But what I noticed in your article, 0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:05.200 either Jim or Joe or Robert, somebody connected you to 0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:07.840 Jeff Shepherd. Now, Jeff Shepherd, for those who don't know, 0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:10.840 is the world's greatest authority on Watergate. And when you 0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:13.400 when you run into Jeff Shepherd, it's like drinking from 0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:15.160 a fire hose. How did you enjoy that? 0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:18.000 Yeah? 0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:22.040 I was a history major in college, and Jeff Shepherd 0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:25.080 is not only does he have a fascinating personal history, 0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:27.280 he was the guy who transcribed a lot of the 0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:31.600 Nixon tapes. He knows so much of the Watergate history. 0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:34.400 I mean, talking to him, that'll that'll blow your hair back. 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:38.360 But he's critical to this story because when do people 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:42.600 start re engaging with Nixon is during the first Trump administration, 0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:46.120 particularly you know, younger conservatives, That's when. 0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:49.720 They start re engaging. And what Shepherd has done. 0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:53.280 Is he has poked holes in the first official narrative. 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.520 And he's done so not by you know, connecting strange 0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:00.880 dots or some Atlantish theories. Instead, he has produced a 0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:04.880 lot of primary source documents that say, wait a minute, you. 0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:07.680 Know, maybe Dean actually changed his testimony. 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:11.280 Wait a minute, maybe something was going on that was 0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:16.280 uncouth in these meetings between the special prosecutor and the judge. 0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:18.720 They were meeting ex party out of chambers. 0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:21.880 And so I think Sheppard, he really has provided the 0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:25.800 intellectual firepower for a re examination of Watergate. 0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:29.080 And then, you know, once that hurdle. 0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:32.280 Is out of the way, then I think Republicans, conservatives, 0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:34.600 and perhaps the public were at large, they're going to 0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:37.040 be more charitable when they look at the rest of 0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:39.000 his legacy and they're going to say, wait a minute. 0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:40.600 You know, this is the guy who was there for 0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:44.080 the opening of China, for Title nine, for the moon landings. 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:49.600 His scholarship is you know, intense, and here it definitely 0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:50.480 is uh. 0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:52.520 You know, it's the practice for a lot of things. 0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:54.720 He will also spend as much time with you as 0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:57.880 you want, talking about anything in particular, whether it's NAPA, 0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:00.600 a PA, Clean Water, Clean Air Act, jet Shepherd will 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:02.680 do that so well do I shape? And in fact, 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:05.080 there's still a lot. Ken Kachigan just wrote a book 1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:08.320 about Nixon and Reagan behind Closed Doors. A lot of 1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:12.200 those Nixon youngsters are now oldsters, and they're writing very 1:00:12.240 --> 1:00:15.400 good books. Philip, how many presidential libraries have you been to? 1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:17.840 Do you have a base on which to compare and 1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:20.000 contrast and are you intending a series on them? 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:23.320 Oh? I am the wrong guy to asked this question. 1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:25.880 I've done a lot of reading, but I've never actually 1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:30.320 been to a presidential library, unless unless Mount Vernon counts, 1:00:30.360 --> 1:00:31.880 But I don't think it does well. 1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:34.640 It's close, it does close, But I would suggest just 1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:36.919 start a bingo card because I've only been about half 1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:39.280 of them, and I'm twice your age, and so it 1:00:39.360 --> 1:00:41.840 takes a while to actually chart it. But the Nixon 1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:44.840 Library and your Belinda It's at tendance matters a lot 1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:47.680 to them. So your article in the Journal did a lot. 1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:49.440 I would hope to get people to put it on 1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:52.960 the map for them now if I can. Congrats on 1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:56.680 the Richard Nixon piece. You talked to Laura Luomer this week. 1:00:57.120 --> 1:00:59.760 I didn't see anyone else talk to her. So how 1:00:59.840 --> 1:01:01.960 did you get her number? That's what I want? How 1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:03.720 do you find Laura Lumer in Ukraine? 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:08.040 Well, Laura Lumer's phone number is a little bit more 1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:11.320 difficult to get than President Trump's for reporters on Deadline, 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:13.680 but we managed to snag it and speak with her, 1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:17.080 and she's been going through a very interesting renaissance lumor. 1:01:17.160 --> 1:01:20.560 Previously a right wing bravocateur, I don't think that she 1:01:20.600 --> 1:01:24.320 would reject that label herself, and previously also a disciple 1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:28.520 of Roger Stone, also a Nixon acolyte. She had been 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:32.040 very critical of the United States support for Ukraine. She 1:01:32.160 --> 1:01:35.640 led the charge for a number of years, and not 1:01:35.880 --> 1:01:38.600 just on the policy front, she was very critical of 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:39.560 Vielenski himself. 1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:43.440 She has since changed tune and she expects the Magabase 1:01:43.480 --> 1:01:44.080 to follow suit. 1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:47.080 It's in his latest article, the Secret Trip that turned 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:50.640 Laura Lumer from Ukraine's skeptic to support her. Philip Wagman, 1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:52.520 I look forward to having you Lon as often as 1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:55.680 you write one of these. Big story Again from every 1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:58.640 Nixon alum, thanks for throwing a spotlight on the gang 1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:00.360 and you are Ablenda and all that they are doing. 1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:02.640 Congrats on your new gig at the Wall Street Channel 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:05.600 as well, and stay tuned America. 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Congressman, welcome, tell us 1:04:50.360 --> 1:04:52.000 a little bit where the district is, a little bit 1:04:52.000 --> 1:04:52.400 about you. 1:04:54.200 --> 1:04:56.280 Yes, Sir, Hugh, is an honor to be on your show. 1:04:56.320 --> 1:04:59.440 You got me through multiple military deployments, so I really 1:04:59.440 --> 1:05:02.840 appreciate all those listening hours with you and as an 1:05:02.880 --> 1:05:05.880 honor to be here. But I represent Georgia's fourteenth Congressional 1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:10.480 district basically stretches from a smidgy bit of Cobb County 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:14.120 down there in the Atlanta suburbs all up into God's Country, 1:05:14.240 --> 1:05:17.640 the beautiful Appalachian Mountains up here in northwest Georgia with 1:05:17.720 --> 1:05:19.960 the Tennessee and Alabama border up here. So it's a 1:05:19.960 --> 1:05:22.960 beautiful part of the world. And got sworn in on 1:05:23.120 --> 1:05:26.880 April fourteenth of this year, so I'm a couple of 1:05:26.880 --> 1:05:28.880 months in and Hugh, you may have noticed I haven't 1:05:28.880 --> 1:05:30.720 fixed all the problems in DC yet, but I'm working 1:05:30.720 --> 1:05:31.000 on it. 1:05:31.400 --> 1:05:35.080 Well, you know, now that you mentioned Appalachia, our friend 1:05:35.160 --> 1:05:37.479 Selena Zito is a regular on the program, is writing 1:05:37.480 --> 1:05:39.720 a book, The United States of Appalachia. And she was 1:05:39.720 --> 1:05:42.560 the first one and tell me that Georgia actually picks 1:05:42.640 --> 1:05:44.880 up part of the mountain chain. So you're gonna have 1:05:44.920 --> 1:05:46.760 to be You're gonna have to put up of Selina 1:05:46.840 --> 1:05:48.640 down in your district. Congress been fuller. 1:05:49.680 --> 1:05:51.880 Absolutely, I'm hoping to link up with her because she 1:05:51.920 --> 1:05:54.600 needs a couple of chapters on Northwest Georgia and northeast 1:05:54.600 --> 1:05:55.320 Georgia for sure. 1:05:56.120 --> 1:05:57.800 Okay, you got up there, and I think you're on 1:05:57.880 --> 1:06:00.680 the Transportation Committee, which a lot of people don't know 1:06:01.160 --> 1:06:03.520 spends a whole bunch of money. Are you happy with 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:04.240 that assignment? 1:06:06.600 --> 1:06:08.480 It's a great place in Land. So you know, I 1:06:08.520 --> 1:06:12.840 came in midstream here having started in April, so you 1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:16.000 I'm a prosecutor by trade. Before coming into this position, 1:06:16.040 --> 1:06:18.440 I was an elected district attorney here in Northwest Georgia, 1:06:18.880 --> 1:06:22.400 prosecuting cases and trying to put horrible people behind bars. 1:06:22.760 --> 1:06:24.920 And I'm a military officer as well. But there are 1:06:24.920 --> 1:06:28.080 so many transportation needs that Northwest Georgia has. We have 1:06:28.480 --> 1:06:33.040 major interstates that run through my district here, so we're 1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:35.600 making sure that I promised the voters I was going 1:06:35.640 --> 1:06:37.680 to be a warrior for Northwest Georgia and for their needs. 1:06:37.960 --> 1:06:39.960 And that's something that I feel very lucky to be 1:06:40.040 --> 1:06:43.040 able to do from the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, because 1:06:43.080 --> 1:06:46.640 there are some really important needs that we need through 1:06:46.640 --> 1:06:47.320 that committee. 1:06:47.760 --> 1:06:51.200 Did you stay in the military. You in the reserve, Congressman. 1:06:52.280 --> 1:06:55.040 Yes, sir, so I'm still International Guard, so I'm in 1:06:55.080 --> 1:06:57.880 the Georgia Guard. I'm still trying to figure out that 1:06:58.240 --> 1:07:00.560 side of my life. So I have a drilled this weekend. 1:07:00.680 --> 1:07:03.920 But I know there are some other members and obviously 1:07:04.000 --> 1:07:06.880 the Lindsey Graham. He was an Air Force Jag just 1:07:06.920 --> 1:07:08.800 like me, and that's one of the things that we're 1:07:08.840 --> 1:07:12.240 trying to work on. I think an incredible legacy for 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:15.000 Senator Graham would be if we were able to name 1:07:15.040 --> 1:07:18.200 the Air Force's Jag school after him, and so I'm 1:07:18.240 --> 1:07:21.640 working on that with my house colleagues and my Senate 1:07:21.680 --> 1:07:23.919 colleagues as well. But I'm still an Air Force Jag 1:07:24.000 --> 1:07:26.720 and it's a career that's been very near and dear 1:07:26.760 --> 1:07:27.200 to my heart. 1:07:27.720 --> 1:07:31.360 That would be terrific. Senator Graham would always do. Is 1:07:31.360 --> 1:07:33.840 is time. I guess two weeks in the summer, he 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:36.120 would deploy all over the world. Is that something you're 1:07:36.120 --> 1:07:37.080 looking forward. 1:07:36.800 --> 1:07:40.440 To, Yes, sir, I'm hoping I can do some of 1:07:40.480 --> 1:07:42.960 ore deployments, and I think it's the best way to 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:45.280 get an understanding of what our troops are facing across 1:07:45.320 --> 1:07:47.480 the world and get an understanding of those national security 1:07:47.520 --> 1:07:49.800 issues that we face as a country. So I'm going 1:07:49.880 --> 1:07:52.560 to do everything I can as part of my military 1:07:52.600 --> 1:07:54.800 career to make sure that I'm going forward. 1:07:54.920 --> 1:07:57.560 Have you picked which coccus, if any you want to join, 1:07:57.840 --> 1:07:59.960 Clay Fuller, I mean there are lots, They're twenty five 1:08:00.200 --> 1:08:01.640 thirty of them. Have you figured out if you want 1:08:01.680 --> 1:08:06.280 to join anym. 1:08:04.560 --> 1:08:07.040 Well, there are some policy issues that are near and 1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:09.920 dear to my heart. So obviously the Second Amendment is one. 1:08:09.960 --> 1:08:12.200 So I've joined the two A caucus. But since coming 1:08:12.240 --> 1:08:16.719 into into Congress, I've been very deliberate about just learning 1:08:16.720 --> 1:08:20.599 the human train, seeing who's part of which groups, and 1:08:20.800 --> 1:08:23.320 I'm still going through that process. One thing that I 1:08:23.360 --> 1:08:26.799 want to work on specifically related to Northwest Georgia. We've 1:08:26.840 --> 1:08:30.559 been impacted by p foss and so it's a forever 1:08:30.640 --> 1:08:33.240 chemical that's kind of in our water here in Northwest Georgia. 1:08:33.520 --> 1:08:36.559 I'm a cancer survivor and have dealt with environmental issues 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:39.120 that cause health concerns in the past. So I'm trying 1:08:39.160 --> 1:08:43.400 to build a bipartisan coalition and caucus around that issue. 1:08:43.400 --> 1:08:46.240 And that's something that I'm working on both in the 1:08:46.280 --> 1:08:49.040 House and with my Democrat colleagues in the House too. 1:08:49.600 --> 1:08:52.439 What's the origin of that chemical? Is that jet fuel related? 1:08:52.560 --> 1:08:55.599 Is it sort of like the camp Ler journe plume? 1:08:57.880 --> 1:09:00.560 So one of the major employers in my district is 1:09:00.760 --> 1:09:03.880 the carbet and fluorine industry, and one of the things 1:09:03.880 --> 1:09:07.680 that they did was rely on some chemical manufacturers that 1:09:07.720 --> 1:09:11.240 were out of state to improve their carpet and florine products. 1:09:11.760 --> 1:09:15.479 And so years ago the carbon florine folks were told 1:09:15.520 --> 1:09:18.559 here that these chemicals and these products were safe, and 1:09:18.600 --> 1:09:21.240 it ended up getting into our into our water. So 1:09:21.439 --> 1:09:24.519 my main issue is to make sure that we're cleaning 1:09:24.600 --> 1:09:28.519 up because every person in North Georgia should have clean waters, 1:09:28.520 --> 1:09:30.040 and they should have clean land, and they should know 1:09:30.080 --> 1:09:32.160 that they're family safe. And that's that's something that's front 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:34.679 of mind each and every day that I'm on Capitol Hill. 1:09:35.120 --> 1:09:38.160 Now very practical Western Conor. It's been Clay Fuller. I 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:41.880 just got back from Florida. I trandited the Atlanta I 1:09:41.920 --> 1:09:43.960 wonder do you do you fly in and out of 1:09:44.000 --> 1:09:46.360 Atlanta whenever you got to go home and back, because 1:09:46.360 --> 1:09:49.320 that's kind of the regular place. But that's kind of 1:09:49.360 --> 1:09:52.040 that's almost as big as getting home from Atlanta Airport 1:09:52.200 --> 1:09:53.120 to wherever you are. 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:58.080 Yes, sir, I do have to travel through Atlanta a lot, 1:09:58.240 --> 1:10:02.320 and then it's about a two hour drive. So I've 1:10:02.360 --> 1:10:05.760 got to get through the Atlanta traffic as well once 1:10:05.840 --> 1:10:09.400 I leave the airport, so it can be a challenge. Also, 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:13.519 the Chattanooga airport's pretty close to me, so Senator Bob 1:10:13.600 --> 1:10:16.120 Corker was able to get a direct flight from Chattanooga 1:10:16.160 --> 1:10:19.280 to DC. So from time to time when those times 1:10:19.280 --> 1:10:21.640 line up, I try to hop on a flight. But 1:10:22.520 --> 1:10:25.000 Delta is an important employeer in our state, and if 1:10:25.000 --> 1:10:28.400 I can fly on a Delta airline, I'll do that any. 1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:28.800 Day of the week. 1:10:29.160 --> 1:10:32.160 And I always ask new members. I've been in and 1:10:32.200 --> 1:10:35.160 out of the district to Columbia and Capitol Hill since 1:10:35.200 --> 1:10:38.080 the early eighties. I still can't figure out which building 1:10:38.120 --> 1:10:39.519 is what, or how to get from one to the 1:10:39.560 --> 1:10:41.960 other without a guide? How are you doing in that department? 1:10:43.520 --> 1:10:48.360 Terribly? I'm doing horribly here. So I actually in the 1:10:48.439 --> 1:10:51.880 first week, I got lost after voting, and I was 1:10:51.920 --> 1:10:55.559 in the actual Capital complex and I happened upon probably 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:58.519 just a sweet intern who was giving a tour to 1:10:58.560 --> 1:11:01.120 a large group. You know, you have the member pen 1:11:01.240 --> 1:11:04.240 and interns recognize that. And you could see like she 1:11:04.320 --> 1:11:06.120 felt like she had seen a ghost was asking her 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:09.000 a question, Can you just tell me how to get 1:11:09.000 --> 1:11:11.200 out of this building. I think everybody in that group 1:11:11.280 --> 1:11:14.080 was probably like, this is who we're sending to Congress 1:11:14.080 --> 1:11:15.599 and can't even find his way out of the building. 1:11:15.640 --> 1:11:17.560 But I was there for just a week. 1:11:18.479 --> 1:11:22.680 And I like, plea a lot. You've got great leadership 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:27.519 in leaders Schoolly, Speaker, Johnson and Tom Emmer, But close election, 1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:30.240 I mean, is it immediately all hands on deck for 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:31.320 the election in the fall. 1:11:32.960 --> 1:11:36.519 Absolutely, And that's you know that that work starts right now. 1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:39.599 So during the August recess, I'm going to be here 1:11:39.760 --> 1:11:42.479 on the ground at Georgia fourteen. As you know, Georgia 1:11:42.520 --> 1:11:47.200 fourteen was so critical in the twenty twenty election. We 1:11:47.680 --> 1:11:49.880 needed to drive more voters out in twenty twenty. That's 1:11:49.880 --> 1:11:52.680 why we have two useless Democrat senators here in Georgia. 1:11:52.880 --> 1:11:56.599 So when i'm home over the this month in August 1:11:56.640 --> 1:11:59.360 coming up, and then in October as well, I'm going 1:11:59.439 --> 1:12:01.120 to be doing every thing I can to get Magae 1:12:01.120 --> 1:12:03.559 Warrior Mike Collins across the finish line here in george 1:12:03.560 --> 1:12:05.479 of fourteen. And then we've got to get Rick Jackson 1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:06.680 in the governor's office too. 1:12:07.360 --> 1:12:10.200 That is exactly right. Mike Collins can beat John Hassock 1:12:10.280 --> 1:12:13.160 with people like Klay Fuller helping him. Congressman, it is 1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:15.680 great to make your acquaintance, Sophi A stranger always like 1:12:15.760 --> 1:12:19.120 having freshmen softpolling around because their eyes are fresh. They 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:21.479 say things that a lot of the jaded veterans don't. 1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:24.080 But it's really good to have made your acquaintance. Play 1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:25.960 Fuller and I look forward to talking in the future 1:12:26.000 --> 1:12:26.840 on the view Age show,