WEBVTT - DEI On Steroids + Future of the Census

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Our two of the Charlie Kirk Shows under way January

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<v Speaker 5>twenty second, lots of good news today, lots and lots

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<v Speaker 5>of good news coming through. And something we want to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure that is not being overlooked is some of

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<v Speaker 5>the behind the scenes work that's being done to clear

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<v Speaker 5>out a gut of terrible precedents that have been living

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<v Speaker 5>just sort of behind the surface to the federal government

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<v Speaker 5>for decades. And you brought it up when we had

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<v Speaker 5>Kelly Loffler, and we're actually gonna bring her back on

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<v Speaker 5>because a lot of news has happened at a Small

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<v Speaker 5>Business Administration on something called eight A, which, if you

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<v Speaker 5>had to summarize quickly, Blake before we bring Ben on,

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<v Speaker 5>what is eight A.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight A is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this giant morass federal program to basically or orders.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a program created by Congress orders the govern to

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<v Speaker 1>give a certain percentage of its contracts to businesses that

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<v Speaker 1>are certified as owned by disadvantaged people. Small businesses owned

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<v Speaker 1>by disadvantaged people. Right, and this being America, who counts

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<v Speaker 1>as disadvantage has grown to the point where you are

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<v Speaker 1>disadvantaged if you're anything other than a white man, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a woman, if you are basically anyways, if

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<v Speaker 1>you are from a national group that makes more money

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<v Speaker 1>on average than white Americans. Like I believe Indian Americans

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<v Speaker 1>as disadvantage they out earn white Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>So here to help.

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<v Speaker 5>Us explain this is Ben Weiningarten, who is a Newsmax contributor.

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<v Speaker 5>He's also a real clear politics contributor and writer. Ben,

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<v Speaker 5>Good to see you again, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>I think this correct me if I'm wrong. Is this

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<v Speaker 5>the first time we've had you back since you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we lost Charlie. I always want to give the guests

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<v Speaker 5>an opportunity to reflect on that as a first step.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, well, thanks so much for having me, and it

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<v Speaker 6>is the first time since being back. What a loss

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<v Speaker 6>it has been for the country. You guys have done

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<v Speaker 6>an exceptional job picking up the mantle to the extent

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<v Speaker 6>anyone can.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think the way to honor.

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<v Speaker 6>His legacy is to fight with just as much vigor,

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<v Speaker 6>just as much intellectual honesty and heft, and with as

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<v Speaker 6>impassioned a sort of drive as we can possibly have

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<v Speaker 6>to overcome these forces of evil and darkness that conspire

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<v Speaker 6>to take him down. So, you know, as jew, we say,

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<v Speaker 6>may his memory be a blessing, And I would also

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<v Speaker 6>say may his memory and his works inspire us to

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<v Speaker 6>go forth and conquer in this war of ideas and

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<v Speaker 6>for civilization on his behalf.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well said Ben, And you've been a longtime guest

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<v Speaker 5>intermittently you have these great pieces that come through ever

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<v Speaker 5>real clear. And I know you're also Newsmax now, and

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<v Speaker 5>so congratulations on all your success and all the things

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<v Speaker 5>you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a huge story.

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<v Speaker 5>Charlie was all over disparate impact, he was all over CRT,

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<v Speaker 5>he was all over DEI, something we never talked about

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<v Speaker 5>until just recently. And Christopher Ruffo has been talking about

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<v Speaker 5>it as well. And we're gonna have Kelly Leffler, actually

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<v Speaker 5>Loeffler on the show tomorrow. She wants to come back

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<v Speaker 5>on and give updates on what's going on over at SBA.

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<v Speaker 5>But how big of a problem is this insidious little

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<v Speaker 5>thing called eight A and what's being done to solve it?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, well, thanks so much for those kind of words.

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<v Speaker 6>And AA really looks like the small Business Administration manifestation

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<v Speaker 6>of DEI on steroids. And even if you think that

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<v Speaker 6>that's a political characterization, we need to look no further

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<v Speaker 6>than the fact and the fact that hence focused by

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<v Speaker 6>the Biden administration under its effort to infuse every single

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<v Speaker 6>aspect of the federal government with quote unquote equity, And

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<v Speaker 6>what they wanted to do was raise the percentage of

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<v Speaker 6>SBA contracts to A firms eight A eligible firms, qualified

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<v Speaker 6>firms from five percent of contracts to small businesses to

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen percent. That's really all you need to know about

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<v Speaker 6>how significant of a thrust this was, and what does

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<v Speaker 6>that mean. We're talking percentages, but these are tens of

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<v Speaker 6>billions of dollars in contracts every year that are steered

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<v Speaker 6>towards purported socially and economically disadvantaged individually owned small businesses

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<v Speaker 6>or majority minority owned small.

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<v Speaker 7>Businesses, and so that's massive.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously, when we're talking about no big contracts or limited competition,

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<v Speaker 6>they have focus from federal authorities. And this is really

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<v Speaker 6>dating back years, if not decades, is on the fact

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<v Speaker 6>that the program is open to massive amounts of waste, fraud,

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<v Speaker 6>and abuse. There's been a recent prosecution over in this case,

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<v Speaker 6>of course, a USAID administrator who was dolling out contracts

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<v Speaker 6>to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars and

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<v Speaker 6>receiving kickbacks pursue with these firms.

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<v Speaker 7>But beyond that, the main allegations are.

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<v Speaker 6>That you have these pass through entities where a firm

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<v Speaker 6>puts itself out there as being owned by a minority

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<v Speaker 6>business owner and then subcontracts out the work to massive

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<v Speaker 6>defense contractors, for example. So essentially the idea is that

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<v Speaker 6>you have a front company that looks like a minority

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<v Speaker 6>company and they don't really do any of the work,

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<v Speaker 6>but they collect the fees and then they shift a

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<v Speaker 6>percentage of those fees onto a major company that actually

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<v Speaker 6>does most of the work. And then of course there's

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<v Speaker 6>the idea that their companies who claim to be socially

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<v Speaker 6>and economically disadvantaged and in reality should not be based

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<v Speaker 6>upon the criteria set up by SPA. And there have

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<v Speaker 6>been studies done by Inspectors General to show that so

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<v Speaker 6>one thing is the waste fraud abuse and that this

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<v Speaker 6>looks like a racial preference program that is potentially rife

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<v Speaker 6>with fraud, and that's led to all sorts of scrutiny

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<v Speaker 6>by the SPA, by the Treasury Department, now by the

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<v Speaker 6>Department of War, according to recent announcement by Secretary Hegith.

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<v Speaker 6>And beyond the other aspect is is this thing legal

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<v Speaker 6>in the first place, and there are regulations underpinning how

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<v Speaker 6>this program is actually executed that suggests that there is

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<v Speaker 6>a rebuttable presumption that you are a socially and then

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<v Speaker 6>economically disadvantaged business if you are a member of a

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<v Speaker 6>minority group.

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<v Speaker 7>That present umption was challenged.

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<v Speaker 6>So basically, if you are not a minority, you have

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<v Speaker 6>to prove that you're socially and economically disadvantaged. But if

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<v Speaker 6>you are, you're assumed to qualify for the program unless

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<v Speaker 6>there's evidence shown to the contrary, and that evidence is

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<v Speaker 6>basically never shown. Historically, that regulation was challenged, and at

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<v Speaker 6>least one federal court found that it didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>Pass legal muster.

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<v Speaker 6>So to get around that ruling, the Biden administration said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>we're not going to use a rebuttable presumption, but under

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<v Speaker 6>this program, you're going to have to draft a socially

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<v Speaker 6>disadvantaged narrative essay to show ways in which you've been disadvantaged.

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<v Speaker 6>And so this is basically like a proxy for what

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<v Speaker 6>the Supreme Court assumed that a lot of universities might

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<v Speaker 6>try to do to get around affirmative action being prohibited,

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<v Speaker 6>which is just write an essay as a proxy for it.

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<v Speaker 6>So we've seen that similar regulations have gone from the

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<v Speaker 6>SBA and been applied by a slew of other agencies

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<v Speaker 6>now in other programs. So while you had a court

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<v Speaker 6>say this rebuttable presumption for the SBA doesn't pass legal muster,

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<v Speaker 6>and the Biden administration tried to find a workaround, the

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<v Speaker 6>underlying regulation has been adopted by a ton of other

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<v Speaker 6>agencies in doling out awards under programs to advance quote

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<v Speaker 6>unquote socially and economically disadvantaged individual So this looks like

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<v Speaker 6>racial preferences that continue to exist. And so I wrote

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<v Speaker 6>in this recent story about real clear investigations about a

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<v Speaker 6>lawsuit that seeks to wash away this regulation and invalidate

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<v Speaker 6>it not just at the SBA, but everywhere it's been

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<v Speaker 6>adopted across the federal government.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just to put this in perspective here, because you

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<v Speaker 5>you didn't brush over, but I just want to draw

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<v Speaker 5>our attention to it again. In twenty twenty four, the

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<v Speaker 5>SBA awarded some seventy eight billion dollars, or twelve percent

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<v Speaker 5>of all contract dollars, so they didn't even hit they're

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen percent mark to so called small disadvantage businesses often

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<v Speaker 5>under no bid or limited competition arrangement. So that's seventy

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<v Speaker 5>eight billion in one agency. And to assume that there

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<v Speaker 5>is some fraud, waste, and abuse in there, I think

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<v Speaker 5>would be a safe assumption.

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<v Speaker 1>The waste is picked in because you're just allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>pay more for something you could get cheaper. That's already

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<v Speaker 1>wasteful on top of the literal fraud that they do

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>As the demographics of the country shift ben it's like,

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<v Speaker 5>how long are we going to keep up this ruse?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways?

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<v Speaker 5>President Trump walked into a catch twenty two when taking office.

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<v Speaker 5>debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead,

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<v Speaker 5>he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train

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<v Speaker 5>and buy us some time. But the effects of past

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<v Speaker 5>administration spending are still working through the system, and experts

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<v Speaker 5>all right, Ben, There is news also on the eight

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<v Speaker 5>DA front that you mentioned this briefly, but it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of a program that's morphed and it's evolved and it's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of spread to other parts of the government. And

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<v Speaker 5>so Pete Hegseth came out and said that he's getting

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<v Speaker 5>rid of eight A. How big of a chunk of

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<v Speaker 5>money are we talking over at DODUB.

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<v Speaker 6>We're definitely talking about billions of dollars annually, and the

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<v Speaker 6>Department of Defense is among the biggest dollars out of

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<v Speaker 6>contracts to a eligible firms. So it's like DoD HHS

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<v Speaker 6>are some of the main agencies that contract through the

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<v Speaker 6>SBA with these aight A firms, and so there's been

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<v Speaker 6>allegations of defense contractors oftentimes effectively winning business using AA

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<v Speaker 6>firms as fronts, essentially to get business they couldn't otherwise get.

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<v Speaker 7>And something that was mentioned that's really kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of perverse in this is shouldn't all companies be competing

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<v Speaker 6>a sort of according to their merits, on their own qualifications.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's the same thing with affirmative action in school sports.

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<v Speaker 6>Have said that these affirmative action type programs, it was

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<v Speaker 6>always assumed that they would lapse, they would go away

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<v Speaker 6>when we reached the place where discrimination wasn't rooted in

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<v Speaker 6>all of these different institutions.

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<v Speaker 7>And if it's been found in the schools, certainly wouldn't we.

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<v Speaker 6>Have founded in the private sector as well at this time.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's also worth noting, by the way, we're talking

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<v Speaker 6>about a A in the federal government, and there's questions

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<v Speaker 6>about whether or not that can even comport with the

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<v Speaker 6>Trump administration's own executive orders against deis in federal contracting

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<v Speaker 6>and in a federal government. But you also have these

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<v Speaker 6>disadvantage business enterprises so called that get carved out contracts

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<v Speaker 6>at the state and local levels. So it's billions upon

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<v Speaker 6>the federal billions of dollars that are involved here. And

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<v Speaker 6>there's a whole racket arguably associated with it in the

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<v Speaker 6>law firms that represent these companies, in the advisors of

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<v Speaker 6>the sultants, the people who write the studies justifying the

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<v Speaker 6>continued use of racial preferences.

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<v Speaker 7>So it is a massive, massive deal in terms of

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<v Speaker 7>dollar value. You can argue that it goes way.

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<v Speaker 6>Beyond what it would mean to abolish affirmative action in colleges.

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<v Speaker 6>This is tens of billions of dollars at least just

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<v Speaker 6>on the federal side, every single year, taxpayer dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and I think that's really smart. And this is

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<v Speaker 5>you know, some of this is wonky. I'm sure the

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<v Speaker 5>audience is kind of you know, it's a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>In the weeds.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's so critically important because when we have senators

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<v Speaker 5>like Ron Johnson here saying we got to get back

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<v Speaker 5>to pre COVID level spending, okay, which is what four

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<v Speaker 5>and a half trillion dollars. Now we're at like seven okay,

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<v Speaker 5>six and a half seven. This is why it's so

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<v Speaker 5>important because when you increase the federal budget like this,

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<v Speaker 5>and you got these eight A and this DEI and

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<v Speaker 5>this disparate impact embedded within the federal code and all

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<v Speaker 5>these statutes, you got to just assume all your tax

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<v Speaker 5>dollars just going away and getting flushed down the toilet

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<v Speaker 5>for stuff that really is illegal. I mean, I remember

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<v Speaker 5>Stephen Miller was on a crusade before he got back

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<v Speaker 5>into the administration, suing a bunch of this anti white discrimination.

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<v Speaker 5>And especially as the demographics of the country change, when

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<v Speaker 5>when you got fifty percent white country and you got

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<v Speaker 5>fifty percent, you know, minority country. A lot of this,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of this doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of like in Los Angeles, their school district

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<v Speaker 1>has a special category.

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<v Speaker 3>James Kreski, he's on next about you.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll create special categories where it's supposed to be. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>have schools where they're marked a special because they're majority

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<v Speaker 1>non white, and they get special privileges because the idea

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<v Speaker 1>is smaller class, small class, sizes, more money, all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's eighty percent of the schools qualify for this because.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only ten percent of the students in LA or

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<v Speaker 3>now white white.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're you're literally at the point where, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a leg up for this disadvantage small group,

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<v Speaker 1>it's we just want to punish white people.

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<v Speaker 3>And make spending.

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<v Speaker 5>It's spending a lot of money. Here's Pete Hegseth on

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<v Speaker 5>reviewing and rooting out aight A within the Dow three

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<v Speaker 5>ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 3>So effective immediately.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm ordering a line by line review of every small

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<v Speaker 8>business sole source eight a contract that is over twenty

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<v Speaker 8>million dollars, and we'll look at everything smaller than that too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a two stage mission.

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<v Speaker 8>First, if a contract doesn't make us more lethal, it's gone.

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<v Speaker 8>We have no room in our budget for wasteful DEI

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<v Speaker 8>contracts that don't help us win wars, period, full stop. Second,

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<v Speaker 8>we're doing away with these pass through schemes. We'll make

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<v Speaker 8>sure that every small business getting a contract is the

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<v Speaker 8>one actually doing the work and not just some shell

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<v Speaker 8>company funneling your money to a giant consulting firm.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben final word to you, this.

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<v Speaker 7>Is similar to in Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 6>You have basically government programs with limited safeguards, and of

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<v Speaker 6>course they're going to get abused. And I think the

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<v Speaker 6>really important thing is this the Trump administration is trying

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<v Speaker 6>to do everything it can using executive power to get

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<v Speaker 6>out of the DII business. D D you can all

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<v Speaker 6>turn right back on in a future administration.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, it's so true. This is why we

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<v Speaker 5>got to win the midterms.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to win.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, I got some breaking news and then we're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna bring in Ryan James Gerdowski, who has some interesting analysis.

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<v Speaker 5>It always does, actually always brings really interesting stuff. So

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<v Speaker 5>there's been a third arrest William Kelly, who was this

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<v Speaker 5>crazy lunatic. This guy was always wearing a beanie, barking

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<v Speaker 5>at all these people, poor people in this church. He's

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<v Speaker 5>been indicted or he's been charged and actually is in

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<v Speaker 5>FBI custody. So yesterday he was yeh, there's a picture

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<v Speaker 5>of him, real lunatic. And we have a video of

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<v Speaker 5>him yesterday basically challenging Pam Bondi to come arrest him

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<v Speaker 5>four h two.

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<v Speaker 10>So you know, Pambondy, you want to come and arrest me,

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<v Speaker 10>you want to come and give me charges, so be it.

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<v Speaker 10>And for all the people getting you know, giving me

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<v Speaker 10>death threats, threatening my life, kill me, go ahead, kill me,

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<v Speaker 10>because you know what, as Fred Hampton said, you can

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<v Speaker 10>kill the revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's too bad this guy didn't go protest to

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<v Speaker 1>church in Chicago because then we could have had William

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly on to discuss William Kelly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 5>So this this guy's been spotted all over DC. He's

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<v Speaker 5>a complete lunatic. This is what he does full time.

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<v Speaker 5>So he said, come arrest me. Pam Bondi said, okay, deal,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll take that deal now. An update, Apparently a magistrate

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<v Speaker 5>judge blocked the Don Lemon charges so they I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>exactly we're getting the details there. So Don Lemon has

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<v Speaker 5>not been charged. Yeah, there you go, magi strate judge

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<v Speaker 5>rejects charges against Don Lemon over antist protests at Minnesota church. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>this is probably my guess here is that This is

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<v Speaker 5>some sort of activist judge who didn't want to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he just is treating Don Lemon as as an independent journalist.

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<v Speaker 5>Don Lemon was not an independent journalist. He was there

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<v Speaker 5>as an activist. Okay, you don't kiss the main lead

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<v Speaker 5>organizers also been charged and arrested. You don't tell him

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<v Speaker 5>thank you for your service and defense their actions. If

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<v Speaker 5>you're just an independent journalist, he's an activist. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 5>what he is.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome back, Ryan James Gerdowski. There, we got the housekeeping

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<v Speaker 5>out of the way there, sir. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 5>Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. And you said a crazy guy with a

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<v Speaker 4>beanie was arrested.

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<v Speaker 11>I thought Tim Poole was going to show off, but

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<v Speaker 11>I mean it's much better news.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know, as far as I know, Tim hasn't

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<v Speaker 5>been rating churches storming churches, although I wouldn't put it

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<v Speaker 5>past him. He's unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>So you had this interesting take here, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>we've got the graphic and we throw it up, but

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<v Speaker 5>you basically break down the states that are losing population,

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<v Speaker 5>and this is something that we've been on really for

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<v Speaker 5>a long time, Ryan, where you say green states that

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<v Speaker 5>saw net positive migration from other Americans. Purple states are

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<v Speaker 5>states that's on net negative migration.

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<v Speaker 3>And you say this.

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<v Speaker 5>Immigration is the only thing keeping certain blue states like

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<v Speaker 5>New York, Illinois, New Jersey in California from losing ten

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<v Speaker 5>plus congressional districts. Take us back in time, because this

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<v Speaker 5>was a fight in Trump one point zero where they

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<v Speaker 5>tried to make it so that in the census we

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<v Speaker 5>would not have illegals counted in the census.

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<v Speaker 11>What happened, well, I mean, listen, when I say immigration,

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<v Speaker 11>it is both legal and illegal. I think that has

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<v Speaker 11>to be set there and stated from my recollection from

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<v Speaker 11>the census. Thing they brought up to the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 11>The Supreme Court said no, that they have to be counted.

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<v Speaker 4>Now. Before that, there was also a core.

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<v Speaker 11>Case that said that only people of voting age and

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<v Speaker 11>legality should be counted. In other words, children shouldn't be counted,

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<v Speaker 11>and people who can't be voted either their residents or

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<v Speaker 11>their visitors or their legal visitors, or they are illegal

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<v Speaker 11>aliens should not be counted because that would at least

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<v Speaker 11>make every congressional district of equal voting population. There are

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<v Speaker 11>some congression districts that have one hundred or one hundred

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<v Speaker 11>fifty thousand more voters than other districts, makes them much

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<v Speaker 11>more expensive, harder to win. So that was interesting, But

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<v Speaker 11>all the core has been very pretty consistent sitting there

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<v Speaker 11>and saying no, it's every person in the building gets counted.

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<v Speaker 11>So with that happening, especially because of COVID, there was

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<v Speaker 11>a mass change in movement as far as people goes.

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<v Speaker 11>California essentially has the same amount of people today as

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<v Speaker 11>it did in twenty twenty. Right, American citizens are leaving

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<v Speaker 11>that state. They're leaving New York, they're leaving Illinois. They're

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<v Speaker 11>not willing to deal with the nonsense of failed government,

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<v Speaker 11>democratic governance. What is happening is is that the three

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<v Speaker 11>hundred thousand plus people who have moved to California from

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<v Speaker 11>other countries have made up from the loss of population

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<v Speaker 11>of Americans. So in the twenty thirty census, when California

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<v Speaker 11>should be like, okay, let me say, how are the

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<v Speaker 11>states doing, Where do people want to live? Where people moving,

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<v Speaker 11>California should lose five seats. They really probably should lose

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<v Speaker 11>five seats. They wouldn't have gained so many had not

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<v Speaker 11>been fair legal alliances over time, but they should lose

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<v Speaker 11>five seats. It is only for legal and illegal immigration

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<v Speaker 11>that they don't lose more. It is very important in

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<v Speaker 11>these four years where President's really cracking down illegal immigration,

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<v Speaker 11>he is putting up barriers for legal immigration, that we

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<v Speaker 11>sit there and we.

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<v Speaker 4>Really reduce these numbers.

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<v Speaker 11>Because in the twenty thirty decade, right as it stands now, Texas, Florida, Utah,

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<v Speaker 11>Arizona are all set to.

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<v Speaker 4>Gay idahos at the game.

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<v Speaker 11>Correcial seats California, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Illinois will

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<v Speaker 11>all lose, or Washington or Oregon.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's supposed to lose one as well. They will

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<v Speaker 4>all lose. What does that actually mean as far as

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<v Speaker 4>presidential polis go.

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<v Speaker 11>It means that that decade will be the first decade

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<v Speaker 11>where the entire blue wall does not matter. In other words,

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<v Speaker 11>if a Republican wins North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 11>they win the presidency and Ohio I should say Ohio to.

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<v Speaker 11>As long as they win Ohio plus those other states,

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<v Speaker 11>they win the presidency. There's no more conversation of how

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<v Speaker 11>Wisconsin's going. I mean, it will be important to win

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<v Speaker 11>those states and to sit there and campaign there, but

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<v Speaker 11>it's not necessary anymore. The entire climate changes and it

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<v Speaker 11>becomes very difficult for Democrats to really climb out of that.

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<v Speaker 11>As Florida is not a swing stated anymore, as Texas

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<v Speaker 11>has not become a swing state like they hoped it

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<v Speaker 11>would be, Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia is really you know,

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<v Speaker 11>they have they have work to do there to sit

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<v Speaker 11>there and try to win. Yet and still they cannot

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<v Speaker 11>count on these big blue states to the living and

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<v Speaker 11>wor because Americans don't want to live there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's such a big topic, Ryan, because you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>have native born Americans that are abandoning American states. They're

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<v Speaker 5>they're completely they're opting out, they're walking, and it just

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<v Speaker 5>it seems like such a travesty that we have whole

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<v Speaker 5>tracts of this country that Americans find so detestable that

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<v Speaker 5>they refuse to live there.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter they have America.

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<v Speaker 1>California was, let's be frank, it was paradise for decades,

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<v Speaker 1>and Paradise is depopulating. It is a place of the

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<v Speaker 1>very rich and the very poor.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to be a special kind of stupid to

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<v Speaker 5>drive people away from California.

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<v Speaker 3>You jet, you have to yeah, go ahead, right, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's true.

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<v Speaker 11>And think of I mean, but think of like public schools, right,

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<v Speaker 11>public schools are literally free for people to attend, and

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<v Speaker 11>yet they still won't. Democrats will make something unlikable even.

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<v Speaker 4>If you give it for free.

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<v Speaker 11>That is how bad some policies have it. And think

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<v Speaker 11>of all the millions who are literally trapped there, who

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<v Speaker 11>vote against its policies year in and year out, and

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<v Speaker 11>they sit there and they try to work their way

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<v Speaker 11>to make sure supermajorities maintain and the insanity continues. So

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<v Speaker 11>I think it's very very important though, that the whole

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<v Speaker 11>country doesn't go down that route, and we're no longer

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<v Speaker 11>held hostage to these big blue states anymore because Americans

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<v Speaker 11>don't want to live there. And if we can cut

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<v Speaker 11>off illegal immigrations aret deporting people, I mean, we are

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<v Speaker 11>but ramp it up. And if we can sit there

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<v Speaker 11>and reduce legal immigration on top of that, we saw it,

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<v Speaker 11>we will see massive change to the tune of ten

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<v Speaker 11>twelve seats out of blue states into red ten twelve

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<v Speaker 11>electoral colleges and it's a whole different ballgame.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a completely the twenty thirties changed.

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<v Speaker 5>Radically, Well, the twenty thirties change. I think there's an

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's an argument. Listen, if we look at

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<v Speaker 5>what the Democrats are doing in Virginia, they're going full

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<v Speaker 5>Marxist in a de D plus sixth state, and we

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<v Speaker 5>we can't get Indiana to redistrict. There's a that we

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<v Speaker 5>are we are taking a knife to a gunfight, if

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<v Speaker 5>you will, And it's I mean, we're just we're still

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<v Speaker 5>playing under an old playbook. And I thought we were

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<v Speaker 5>past that. I thought, in the ear of Trump, we'd

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<v Speaker 5>finally learn our lesson. After twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>We have not. We have not.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know so, Ryan, you are the host of

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<v Speaker 5>its Numbers Game. You're also you do the nappop dot

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<v Speaker 5>substack dot com. You're also the founder of the seventeen

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 5>seventy six Project Pack. You're like one of those people

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 5>we bring on the show. And I got to have

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<v Speaker 5>all these different like titles ready to get it out. No, No,

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<v Speaker 5>you're doing You're doing great work all and so you

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 5>are a numbers game guy. Talk about this deep mass

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<v Speaker 5>deportations you just said we got to ramp it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 5>Then you got Axios saying that this is so unpopular.

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<v Speaker 5>The Trump administration is looking at it. You got this

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<v Speaker 5>story this morning, or this five year old illegal. The

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 5>Democrats are spreading all this propaganda. Turns out the data

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<v Speaker 5>abandoned him. How popular or unpopular is it, and specifically

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<v Speaker 5>with independence and minorities.

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<v Speaker 11>So the New York Times poll that just came out

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<v Speaker 11>this morning was terrible for Trump. It was horrible poll

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<v Speaker 11>numbers except on two issues, border security and deporting illegal immigrants.

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<v Speaker 11>Now they're going to sit there and say, oh, look,

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 11>the poll said that ice is unpopular. Yeah, they don't.

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<v Speaker 11>People don't like massed agents. They don't like watching families cry.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't. People are people like, they have a heart.

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<v Speaker 11>However, that doesn't mean that they don't endorse the deportation effort.

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<v Speaker 11>It is the most popular issues still when they ask

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<v Speaker 11>what is Trump doing right? Deporting illegal immigrants? It was

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<v Speaker 11>popular among not only Republicans, but I think it was

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<v Speaker 11>plus twelve among independence It was positive among all age

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 11>demographics over the age of thirty, so only the very

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 11>young were opposed to it. It was very popular among

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 11>men I think it was fifty to fifty among women.

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<v Speaker 11>It is the issue that people bullet it for Donald

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<v Speaker 11>Trump this and there was no like, oh I want

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<v Speaker 11>what he'll sit there and do The signs were at

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<v Speaker 11>the convention mass deportation now, so overall, yes, when they

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<v Speaker 11>see the images on social media, they really don't like them.

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<v Speaker 11>It's really given something. They don't like what happened in Minneapolis. However,

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 11>they still support doing mass deportations. If Blue states would

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<v Speaker 11>get on board with actually allowing prisons to so obliged

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<v Speaker 11>by ice detainers and we could deport them straight from prisons,

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<v Speaker 11>which Blue states are stopping right now, it would be

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<v Speaker 11>a much easier and pragmatic approach.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't have that. We should be.

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<v Speaker 11>Looking at finding increasing finds against employers at hire illegals.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an easier way to do it.

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<v Speaker 11>But the good thing is that the Brookings Institute and

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<v Speaker 11>AEI looked at this. We're having a net loss about

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<v Speaker 11>one hundred thousand illegal foreign born citizens this year this

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<v Speaker 11>year and not citizens but form born residents this year and.

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<v Speaker 4>About half a million next year. It is working.

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<v Speaker 11>It might be a little painful for the people who

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<v Speaker 11>are queasy, but it is working and it's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to play this clip from JD Vance and

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<v Speaker 5>he's talking about we're not going to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not going to stop deporting illegals, so get over it.

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<v Speaker 3>Four or four.

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<v Speaker 12>The far left has decided that the United States of

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<v Speaker 12>America shouldn't have a border anymore, and they are willing

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<v Speaker 12>to fight and penalize and docks and even assault our

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<v Speaker 12>law enforcement officers in order.

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<v Speaker 3>To fight for the basic principle.

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<v Speaker 12>That anybody ought to be able to come into the

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<v Speaker 12>United States of America. Well, i'll tell you right now,

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<v Speaker 12>the Trump administration we reject that we are going to

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<v Speaker 12>get illegal criminals out of our country, and we're not going.

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<v Speaker 3>To let a few left wing radical stoppers.

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<v Speaker 5>So it seems like the administration is getting the memo here.

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<v Speaker 5>Ryan James Gerdowski seventeen seventy six pack. Uh. Blake reads

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<v Speaker 5>some of these numbers though on this New York Times

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<v Speaker 5>poll because I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to me. So, as you mentioned, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>strongest on the border. But unsurprisingly people are annoyed about

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein Files thing. But like, for example, he's only

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<v Speaker 1>forty one approved fifty three disapprove on Venezuela, which we

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>talked to Rich Traveris about that. It's interesting because Latin

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<v Speaker 1>America does overwhelmingly seem to like it, and it seems

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<v Speaker 1>it basically did work whatever he was, what his plan was,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we didn't invade, we did whatever war, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are they unhappy about there?

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<v Speaker 1>Or thirty seven and fifty four on the Israel Palestine

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<v Speaker 1>conflict where it's imperfect, but they actually did get a

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<v Speaker 1>ceasefire in that one, which is one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>he promised he would get.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's seen as too close to bb Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty four negative twenty four, thirty four to fifty eight

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<v Speaker 1>on Russia Ukraine. I guess it hasn't ended the war yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing catastrophic has happened either.

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<v Speaker 11>But if you liked it, that because because if you

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<v Speaker 11>look at the numbers, right, it's it comes down to

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<v Speaker 11>the estancial thing of inflation and cost of living, right.

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<v Speaker 11>The only thing that he does worse than the cost

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<v Speaker 11>of living is the Epstein Files and It's kind of

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<v Speaker 11>like something one thing is polluted and therefore everything is polluted.

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<v Speaker 11>It makes no rhyme or reason. Like on Israel, he

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<v Speaker 11>did a great job on Venezuela, everything worked out like

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<v Speaker 11>So there's the negative negativity towards the issue cost of

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<v Speaker 11>living and the feeling that he is not organized on

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<v Speaker 11>the issue of cost of living and that's not a

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<v Speaker 11>priority pollutes everything. The one coveyat I will say at

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<v Speaker 11>the Times, and I'm not a pole truther, but the

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<v Speaker 11>one coveyat I will provide for the Times issue is

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<v Speaker 11>when they ask independence, do you lean Republican or Democrats?

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<v Speaker 4>Overwhelmingly Democrats. So there could be.

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<v Speaker 11>Some maybe a little, maybe a margin of error in

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<v Speaker 11>one way or the other. But I think that the

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 11>ideas that the priorities are not there. We want to

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<v Speaker 11>really focus a lot on American, on American stuff and

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<v Speaker 11>making sure American jobs are coming back, and I think

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 11>that that is just creates negativity across the board on everything.

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<v Speaker 1>What is driving the so people say cost of deliving

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<v Speaker 1>affordability is that a vibes based thing. Is there is

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<v Speaker 1>something specific they see because I just thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking up and I know rental prices in a lot

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>of big cities are stagnating or falling, so housing, especially

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<v Speaker 1>for people.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 11>But also it is one of the worst times when

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<v Speaker 11>to be young and looking for a job in our country.

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<v Speaker 11>Like that is just the truth. I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 11>it's AI or job is being moved overseas or whatever

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<v Speaker 11>the case is. You hear a lot of things from

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<v Speaker 11>a lot of different people and you kind of try

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 11>to parse through to find the truth. That though, is

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<v Speaker 11>a really big part of it. And the number one

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<v Speaker 11>group that is set there and turned on Trump are

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<v Speaker 11>young people. It's people under the age of thirty. His

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<v Speaker 11>numbers are very stable. For people over the age of thirty,

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, they're really not horrendous. There are some numbers

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<v Speaker 11>are that could be off, that could be better. However,

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<v Speaker 11>the numbers under thirty where you're seeing the biggest u

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 11>turn against him. I kind of think in part part

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 11>of its vibes and its social media and people getting

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 11>outrage over every kind of nonsense there is, and part

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<v Speaker 11>of I think is one of the worst times to

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<v Speaker 11>be a young person to try.

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<v Speaker 4>To find a job.

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<v Speaker 5>I will tell you we had a bunch of turning

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<v Speaker 5>points students on the show not too long ago, and

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 5>I was struck by how much they kept going and again,

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<v Speaker 5>these are conservative kids, all right, Okay, so it's a

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 5>selected bias there, but I was struck by how much

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 5>they talked about H one by And listen, I'm H

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<v Speaker 5>one B is a actually a small fraction of a

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<v Speaker 5>much larger legal.

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<v Speaker 1>Immigration to some extent, but it's what they talk about.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, because it's symbolic for them because they feel like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, yeah, they do have the AI on slot coming.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's that's an entry level job killer. AI is

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<v Speaker 5>going to take a lot of analyst jobs. It's going

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<v Speaker 5>to take a lot of you know, data jobs. So

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<v Speaker 5>they look at H one B as a truly symbolic

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<v Speaker 5>problem for their generation going into the workforce. I think

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 5>they need to do more on that. I think they

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<v Speaker 5>need to do it more on legal immigration because legal

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<v Speaker 5>immigration is actually, structurally I think one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 5>problems facing the country.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and listen, President Trump is going all in on AI.

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<v Speaker 11>He's making a real a big bet. He says it's

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<v Speaker 11>going to create more jobs than it takes away. Maybe

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<v Speaker 11>it doesn't. Maybe we're just in the pain period.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball.

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<v Speaker 11>However, if he is wrong, it is a generational consequence,

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<v Speaker 11>like there's I don't know if anyone's out there and said,

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<v Speaker 11>mister president, what if you are wrong on this major,

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<v Speaker 11>major thing, and you're looking at a generation where twenty

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<v Speaker 11>percent can't find a job. I think that that's a

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<v Speaker 11>real conversation that democrats on the left are having. Rocana

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<v Speaker 11>is having that conversation. Democrats are saying, what are we

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<v Speaker 11>going to do about AI in a real way where

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<v Speaker 11>we redistribute? Well, they're speaking about as a solution towards socialism,

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<v Speaker 11>as AI is the gateway to actually get real socialism

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<v Speaker 11>in America in a way that we have never felt it.

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<v Speaker 11>They think that that's the answer, and I know the

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<v Speaker 11>internal polling that they have flagged.

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<v Speaker 4>The President says the.

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<v Speaker 11>Numbers on AI are not great, like they do most

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<v Speaker 11>Americans are worried about it.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not concerned. You are the AI president.

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<v Speaker 11>I think that that's something that they should be sitting

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<v Speaker 11>there and trying to calculate and say, Okay, what are

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<v Speaker 11>you know, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I saw David Sachs was flagging this over

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<v Speaker 5>at Davos, and he was talking about how China has

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the Chinese population is like an eighty percent

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<v Speaker 5>positive rate, you know when polled about AI, and in

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<v Speaker 5>the United States it's like forty forty one forty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the President is right to go for AI

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not even whether AI will create jobs or not,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that AI will exist. And do you want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be in America like or do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in China and we lose whatever jobs that takes.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want to regulate it at all?

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<v Speaker 11>That's the question, is like pe like like Sachs will say, oh,

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<v Speaker 11>we need a federal regulation and then just ask sax Okay,

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<v Speaker 11>what's the federal regulation you support and see if he

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<v Speaker 11>says anything, because I have yet to see when when

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<v Speaker 11>you ask Silicon Valley to police themselves they fail.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I mean, we can just go back to a.

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<v Speaker 11>Twenty twenty where they were literally on board with every

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<v Speaker 11>single far left extreme thing that there was, and then

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<v Speaker 11>Trump was popular in one and now they're all on board.

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<v Speaker 11>But they'll leave us again in thirty five seconds. They

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<v Speaker 11>don't care, They have no loyalty. If you ask what

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<v Speaker 11>is the thing you're willing to sit there and actually

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<v Speaker 11>get hard federal legislation on what is it? And I

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<v Speaker 11>don't just tell me, you know, children, child pornography. Well

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<v Speaker 11>tell me a real concrete thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I listen, and I know. There was

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of back and forth on the one big

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<v Speaker 5>beautiful bill, and there was that one clause which was gonna,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, put off any regulation in the state level

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<v Speaker 5>for ten years or whatever. It made sense because California

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<v Speaker 5>was in New York are so large, their economies are

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<v Speaker 5>so large that they could basically dictate a patchwork of

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<v Speaker 5>woke regulation at the state level on AI and it

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<v Speaker 5>would screw everybody else. So I understood the sentiment. It

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<v Speaker 5>got demonized and villainized. Yeah, twenty sevens.

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<v Speaker 11>But Andrew, but remember Tennessee was what killed that part

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<v Speaker 11>of the bill. I know Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 4>It was in New York or California.

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<v Speaker 11>Texas has AI regulation, Florida has AI regulation. It is

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<v Speaker 11>not just the thing is, yeah, we're gonna end up

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<v Speaker 11>with patchwork because there's no federal response. Either make a

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<v Speaker 11>federal response and give up something instead of asking Silicon

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<v Speaker 11>Valley for advice, up something that the taxpayer the voters want,

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<v Speaker 11>or you're going to see just states continue to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't have it both ways.

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<v Speaker 5>Ryan here asking really good conversation. We'll have you on

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<v Speaker 5>and back again soon.

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