1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Hi from the Salvation Army. You're listening to 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Words of Life. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: Are the words words, These are the words. These are 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: the words of life. 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: Hey, and welcome back to Words of Life. We are 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: continuing a series where we're speaking with various writers of 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: all kinds, and today we are being joined by a 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: Christian children's author, Lindsay Bonia. Lindsay is the author of 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: such books as Polar Bear Island, I Love You with 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: all of My Hearts, and The Note Who Faced The Music. 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: Lindsay joins us to continue this conversation about why the 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: written word continues to be such a powerful tool for 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: sharing the gospel. She also shares some incredible encouragement for 14 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: aspiring writers as well. Learn more about Lindsay and find 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: her books at Lindsaybonia dot com. That's l I N 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: D s A Y b O N I L l 17 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: A dot com, or you can check out the show 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: notes and we'll have a link to her website there 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: as well. 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Enjoy you. 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: Joining me again is Kristin Mudge. If our listeners have 22 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: missed any episodes so far, just remind them who you 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: are really quick. 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: I am the Southern Territorial Publications Editor so I am 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 4: in charge of the Southern Spirit and any books that 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 4: get published through the Southern Territory. 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 3: Today, I'm very excited to talk to my new friend 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: because I didn't know her before this. She is an author, 29 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: specifically a children's author. Lindsay Bania, thank you for having me, 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. So to start out, we 31 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: just want to learn who are you, your your salvation story, 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: your upbringing as a Christian, and just introduce stuff to 33 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: our listeners. 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 5: So yeah, so I'm Wendsey Bonia. I am a children's 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: book author and also a professional storyteller. So just kind 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 5: of two fancy ways to say that I love stories. 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 5: I love storytelling and all of its forms. So I 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 5: grew up, I would say, I don't have like a 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 5: you know, one specific moment that I can remember giving 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 5: my life to Christ. But what I remember is I 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: moved around a lot as a child, and I remember 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 5: feeling that he was my one constant friend and was 43 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 5: always there for me. And I remember, you know, every 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 5: place that I would move to, i'd have to make 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 5: new friends, and I remember feeling very secure in who. 46 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 6: I was in my relationship with Christ, feeling like I 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 6: don't I don't have to be somebody that I'm not 48 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 6: because I already have this solid friend, so I don't 49 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 6: have to change myself or be to somebody I'm not. 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I would say I didn't really start going 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: weekly to church until I was probably like in my 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 5: late elementary school years. I would say, I think there's 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 5: something comforting about the written word. You know, I love 54 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 5: both the written word and the spoken words, since I 55 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 5: have like the storyteller and author like kind of on 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 5: both sides of the coin. But with writing, it's something 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 5: that you can keep coming back to and it's not changing, 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 5: so it's you know, it's always there in that form 59 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: for you. I love to listen to books on audio 60 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: and things, but if I really really personally want to 61 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: try to like take it in, then I have to 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 5: read it. I have to see it, and I have 63 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: to like mull it over and reread it. I think 64 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 5: we're living such a distracted society, so to be able 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 5: to like see it and kind of take it in 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 5: it is kind of like and then we talk about 67 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: the Word of God is the bread of life. It 68 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: is like you're you know, taking the time to mull 69 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 5: it over, to chew on it. And that sort of thing. 70 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: So I think the written word allows that the most. 71 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: Hey you're listening to the Salvation Armies words of life. 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: We're going to take a quick ad break and we'll 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: be right back. How did you get into this? How 74 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: did you feel called to write specifically for children? 75 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit by accident. I mean, I guess 76 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: it's like looking back on it, I can see it 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 5: was where I was supposed to be all the time, 78 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 5: but you know, it took a long time for me 79 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: to get there. So when I was in college, I 80 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 5: was a theater major. I remember one time just the 81 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 5: story coming to me and I was like, I got 82 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 5: to write this down. And I just wrote it down. 83 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 5: It was kind of like the most the thing I 84 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 5: most felt like in spot. You know when you can 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 5: talk about words being inspired. That felt very inspired to me. 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 5: And I was just sort of like this vessel writing 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 5: it down. And I was part of the Christian Fellowship 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 5: group at my university, and so I remember we took 89 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 5: that story and we adapted it into a little skit 90 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 5: that we could do when we traveled. So on every 91 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 5: spring break it would take like a server submission trip, 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 5: and so we took one of my stories and we 93 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 5: had made it into this you know, little play that 94 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 5: we did at some of the schools that we visited 95 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 5: and that sort of thing. And then after that I 96 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 5: graduated and it just sort of like sat up there 97 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 5: and never did anything with it. I was always writing 98 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 5: my whole life, like I never stopped. And then when 99 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 5: I moved home after I got married, one day I 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 5: was like, I think maybe that story is a picture book, 101 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 5: is a children's picture book. So I started looking into, 102 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 5: you know, you know, how do I go about getting 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 5: us published? But I'll be honest, when I started, I 104 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 5: didn't know what. I didn't know about writing for children, 105 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 5: so it was a kind of a steep learning curve. 106 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 5: And I also say that I never met an author 107 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: when I was growing up, Like I never had an 108 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: author visited at my school or ever went to like 109 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: a book signing or book festival where there were authors there. 110 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: So I think it was just sort of like a disconnection. 111 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 5: Like I was always reading and writing, but it just 112 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 5: I never had that person or that moment where I went, hey, 113 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 5: like I can do that. I feel that I have 114 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 5: a childlike spirit. I was like, you know, I still 115 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 5: relate to that part of myself. I love to use 116 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 5: my imagination. I love to you know, play with ideas, 117 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 5: and so I think it just kind of like when 118 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 5: it all came together, it's like, yeah, this is this 119 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 5: is what I'm supposed to be doing. 120 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: What are some of the themes that you really kind 121 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: of center around trying to share with kids? 122 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 5: So I would say one of them, for sure is 123 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 5: that sense that you know, they are created to be 124 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 5: who they are, you know, especial who they are. They 125 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: don't need to be someone else. And so I do 126 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 5: deal a lot with that theme of helping children to 127 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: see that they are loved as they are that they are, 128 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 5: you know, they don't need to try to be someone else, 129 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: but they can be themselves. And as I mentioned to 130 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 5: you that it was something that I got to learn 131 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 5: early on that I feel like through my faith, and 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 5: so I feel like that's something that I want young 133 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 5: readers to feel that, to know that they're loved, to 134 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 5: know they have that foundation, and you know, not compare themselves, 135 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 5: because we live in this culture that we're constantly comparing 136 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 5: ourselves to everybody else. But it's like comparing apples and 137 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 5: pineapples or you know, you know, just recognition that God 138 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 5: has a special purpose for all of us. And then 139 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 5: I also try to weave in a lot of themes 140 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: of just you know, loving your neighbor, kindness, how I 141 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 5: want you know, how we're supposed to treat others. My 142 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 5: husband is from Colombia, so one of my first book 143 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 5: release is one of my probably my most popular book 144 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 5: to date, is about this penguin that arrives on this 145 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 5: island of only polar bears, and this you know, polar 146 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 5: bear having to learn that hey, it's okay to be 147 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: kind to and nice too, and welcome people that are different. 148 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 5: And so I think kindness is a big, big theme 149 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 5: for me as well. I love to write about the 150 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 5: power of storytelling and just the power of stories in general, 151 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 5: because I think that Jesus used stories for a reason, 152 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: because I think our brains are hardwired for storytelling. So 153 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: anything that I can put out there that shows how 154 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: important they are and keeping those traditions of storytelling alive 155 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 5: is also important to me. 156 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: As a parent. I have a four year old son 157 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 4: who is just starting to read, and a lot of 158 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: the books that are being given to us at this 159 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: point are trying to teach kids like the proper way 160 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: to behave and things not to do. And I love 161 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: that there are people like you that are writing things 162 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: that are teaching them who they are and not just 163 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: what they should and should not do, because that's important 164 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: to you, But really it's more important for my son 165 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: to know who he is and a real way for 166 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: him to start thinking about God and religion and Jesus, 167 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: because that's really hard to explain to a four year old, 168 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: but to see it in story form is a much 169 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: easier way for him to consume and to start making 170 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: a part of who he is. So I love that. 171 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 4: Thank you for writing, Oh thank you. 172 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: What do you think is different about writing for kids? 173 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: How do you get into the right mindset that you 174 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: know you're not just going over their head the whole time? 175 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: How do you even know that, like the idea that 176 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: you have is going to work for kids? 177 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 5: Well, one, I do try to think about it, okay, 178 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 5: when I was this age, you know, I try to 179 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: give them as much credit as I can. I mean, certainly, 180 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 5: if I'm dealing with a difficult topic, I'm going to 181 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 5: handle a little bit differently, maybe a little more gently. 182 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 5: But it's amazing to me how how many children are 183 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 5: facing unfathomable things that I never faced at that age, 184 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 5: and so we also have to be honest. So I 185 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 5: think in writing for children, the best thing we can 186 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 5: just be as honest with them. We don't have to 187 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: sugarcoat things. Let's put it that way. We can be 188 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: honest in a gentle way, but not take away the 189 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: fact that things in life are hard and they are difficult. 190 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 5: And you know, any story that I'm telling, I wanted 191 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: to land in a place of hope, but sometimes to 192 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 5: get there you do have to go through the hard 193 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 5: stuff too. And I think our kids know that, and 194 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 5: if we try to feed them another type of narrative, 195 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 5: then they know that we're lying to them. 196 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: We pray that you're enjoying and being blessed by this conversation. 197 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: We're going to take one more ad break and we'll 198 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: be right back. What's a little bit of advice if 199 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: someone's feeling called to not just write, but finally write 200 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: and hand it to someone else, what encouragement would you give. 201 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, you are the only one that 202 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 5: can share your story with the voice that you have, 203 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: So your story, nobody else can tell it, It's yours, right, 204 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 5: and the way that you and the way that you 205 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 5: tell it is yours and so the world needs that, 206 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 5: you know, they need the world needs all of our 207 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 5: stories and all of who we are in our fullest. 208 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: So I think that that would be my first encouragement, 209 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 5: is that to be confident in who you are and 210 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 5: what the story is that you have to tell. And 211 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 5: then you know, anytime I'm giving advice, I say that 212 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 5: I believe you need one hundred percent confidence and one 213 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 5: hundred percent humility together, because when you put your work 214 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 5: out there in the beginning, it's not going to be good. 215 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 5: Let's be honest, Okay, it's not going to be good. 216 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 5: But also I think sometimes when we begin to share 217 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 5: our work and people give us ways to make it better, 218 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 5: which in this world we call it getting a critique, 219 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 5: sometimes we're very defensive and you know, our hands up 220 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 5: and like, oh no, this is exactly how it has 221 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 5: to be and I can't change this, and you know 222 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 5: this is it. And so I think that's where it's 223 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 5: good to just like sit in the feedback, sit with 224 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 5: the feedback. Anybody that is willing to give you feedback 225 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 5: in the loving and kind manner probably only has you 226 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 5: and your story's best interest. In mind. 227 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: Are you working on anything now that you can tease, 228 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: or anything that's come out recently that you're excited about 229 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: you can share. 230 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 5: I'm always working unusually a number of things. And that's 231 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 5: another thing I try to do, is just like you know, 232 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 5: if I have my brain in a lot of different directions, 233 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 5: if I'm stuck on one thing, then I can just 234 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 5: jump to something else. Yeah. No, I well, I just 235 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 5: signed a contract two days ago for a new book, 236 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 5: so I'm really excited about that. Yeah, so I see, 237 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 5: I can give it the title thank you, but it 238 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 5: actually does celebrate celebrate faith and church communities. So I'm 239 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 5: excited about that book. And as I mentioned, I'm working 240 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 5: on a middle grade novel right now, so that's kind 241 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 5: of my first, you know, my first worray into sort 242 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 5: of longer form books that I'm excited about. And I 243 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 5: just wrapped up working on a nonfiction book about animals. 244 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: So and now people can find all of your books, information, 245 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: how to reach out to you. Where can they go 246 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: to find more about it? 247 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, everything's usually at my website Lindsaybonia dot com. And 248 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 5: you know, any of my books can be found just 249 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: about wherever books are sold. 250 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: The Salvation Armi's mission doing the most good means helping 251 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: people with material and spiritual needs. You become a part 252 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: of this mission every time you give to the Salvation Army. 253 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: Visit Salvation ARMYUSA dot org to offer your support. You 254 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: can subscribe to Words of Life on your favorite podcast 255 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: store or visit Salvation armiesoundcast dot org. 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