WEBVTT - Dems Understand Immigration’s Importance. Do Republicans?

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<v Speaker 1>More domestic terrorism in New York City focused on the

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<v Speaker 1>immigration issue. The American left, the Democratic Party, they understand

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<v Speaker 1>the stakes when it comes to the all important issue

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<v Speaker 1>of immigration in America. Does the American rights understand two

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans understand? I'm not sure I know the answer. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Amer and this is the josh Amershaw. So another

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<v Speaker 1>day ending and why. In another attempted terrorist attack, this

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<v Speaker 1>happened on Monday in New York City, a deranged former

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<v Speaker 1>US Army soldier and National guardsman tried to set off

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<v Speaker 1>an incendiary device outside of a of a federal building

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<v Speaker 1>in what seems to be an anti Ice terror attack.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened on Monday. Thankfully no one was harmed by this.

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<v Speaker 1>He was described by the Assistant director in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI New or Field office as an anti American,

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<v Speaker 1>anti government extremist SAMI if you've heard this before, an

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<v Speaker 1>anti ice, anti border contro type of American anarchists, the

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<v Speaker 1>very kind of individual I would argue that has had

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<v Speaker 1>the fans flamed by talking heads on the left side

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<v Speaker 1>of our political divide for months and months and months

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<v Speaker 1>really for the better part of this entire administration. How

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<v Speaker 1>many times have you heard that ICE or Nazis, that

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<v Speaker 1>ICE or Gestapo that ICE are are here to do evil,

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<v Speaker 1>that they are not fundamentally a source of law enforcements,

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<v Speaker 1>And hold aside the debates, if it's even a debate

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not law enforcement is even inherently a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, we're talking here about people who invariably believe

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<v Speaker 1>that defund the police, defund prisons, defund ICE. These are

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<v Speaker 1>all reasonably suitable public policy goals. It's beyond parody, but

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately it is where we are at. Here was borders

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<v Speaker 1>are Tom Hollman on Fox News talking a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about this attempted domestic terroist attack outside of federal

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<v Speaker 1>building in New York City on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, I appreciate the cameras from Mandami

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<v Speaker 2>and Jeffries, but too little, too late. They spent a

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<v Speaker 2>year attacking IE imparent ICE. So that's abotised ICE. Collar fascists,

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<v Speaker 2>Ice or Nazis, ICE are racist. ICE is a secret police.

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<v Speaker 2>ICE is in a real law enforcement agency. Fail to

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<v Speaker 2>comply with ICE. I see the signs that a protest resists.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, they have educated people that they can resist ICE,

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<v Speaker 2>and they hateful writer continues, which we've had some tragedies

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<v Speaker 2>recently because people didn't want to comply with ICE. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is yet another example today. What happened in from

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<v Speaker 2>the Federal Building is another example of attacking ICE. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure if you ask that person why he did it,

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<v Speaker 2>he can repeat the talking points I just said that

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<v Speaker 2>you hear from Democratic members of Congress, the Democratic mayors

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<v Speaker 2>and governors who simply want ICE to go away.

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<v Speaker 1>And that ultimately is the proof in the pudding. When

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<v Speaker 1>you hear the motives come out of the maths, oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>what they say is they are just mimicking and eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>the talking points of well be left wing and Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Party people like those in the DSA, people like Zoramdani,

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<v Speaker 1>people like alexandrow coswork Has, who invariably are calling for

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<v Speaker 1>open borders or frankly for no border whatsoever. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask this, for the better part of two

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<v Speaker 1>years now, you guys have been calling for no borders.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been calling Iice Gestapo's nazis that. What didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>think was going to happen? Aha? Perhaps you knew this

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<v Speaker 1>was going to happen. Perhaps you knew that you were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to incite people who are easily riled up to

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<v Speaker 1>do exactly the kind of things that this deranged former

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<v Speaker 1>Army soldier and National artsman tried to do in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City on Monday. Maybe that's actually the entire point

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<v Speaker 1>of this entire exercise. The same way perhaps that Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>in some measure, in some non negtile measure, failed to

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<v Speaker 1>condemn the assassination of the Night Healthcare CEO of Brian Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>the same way they failed to universally condemn the assassination

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<v Speaker 1>of my friend Charlie Carr, the same way they have

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<v Speaker 1>universally failed to condemn all sorts of acts of either

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<v Speaker 1>real or attempted political violence, the same way that there

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<v Speaker 1>are so many today who were still calling for the

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<v Speaker 1>assassination of President Donald J. Trump. Perhaps, by that same measure,

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<v Speaker 1>this was an attempt, I'll be an implicit, silent one

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get some crazy person to commit some harm. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>on the integration front, more generally, it is worth noting

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<v Speaker 1>that the tr administration is continuing to deliver results. So

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<v Speaker 1>there was a new release from the Department of Homeland

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<v Speaker 1>Security that came out last week on July sixteenth, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually just saw for the first time this morning. So

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<v Speaker 1>last week DHS and CBP Customs Border Protection announced fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive months of zero releases at the southern border. That

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely positively astonishing, astonishing considering the depths of open

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<v Speaker 1>borders to pravity during the height the apex of the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden Harris regime, where you had millions people flung across

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<v Speaker 1>the border completely unvetted. We had no idea who the

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<v Speaker 1>heck they were. They were oftentimes criminals, they were raped,

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<v Speaker 1>they were transnational terrorists. We had no idea, absolutely no clue,

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<v Speaker 1>no clue, and in our estimation here on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the reasons why Trump on the election

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<v Speaker 1>was because of just how bad that border was. Fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>months now reports DHS and CDP of zero of zero

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<v Speaker 1>releases at the border. That is absolutely astonishing. Bill Malugan,

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<v Speaker 1>the Intrepid Immigration Center reporter over at Fox News, also

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<v Speaker 1>reporting on some new data from ICE. This data came

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<v Speaker 1>in just yesterday on a Monday, so Bill Malugan put

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<v Speaker 1>on x quote new ICE data dump reveals the agency

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<v Speaker 1>has carried out three hundred and fifty six thousand, three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and nine deportation so far in fiscal year twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six began last October first. That averaged out to

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<v Speaker 1>roughly twelve hundred and sixty per day. ICE currently has

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five and a half thousand people in ICE tension,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly forty thousand of whom have criminal convictions or pending

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<v Speaker 1>criminal charges. So the average deportations comes out, as it said,

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<v Speaker 1>to one thousand, two hundred and sixty per day. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. There's definitely some room for improvement, I would

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<v Speaker 1>argue there, but that's pretty good as far as as

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<v Speaker 1>far as things go. Now, the politics of this are

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<v Speaker 1>are are super interesting. Recall that last week, as we

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<v Speaker 1>discussed with our guests Will Chamberlain recently last week, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit of this back and forth when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the Secretary of DHS, Mark Wayne Mullen. Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Wayn Mullen initially bowed to pressure, bowed to political pressure

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<v Speaker 1>from Maine and Texas. There were deaths as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy people trying to shoot ICE agents, and Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Wayn Mullen said, let's stop the automobile pullovers, the detention

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<v Speaker 1>in vehicles, and then Trump comes off the top and says, actually, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's capitulation to the old warders left. We're gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>on doing this forarhicular stops, So the politics of this

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<v Speaker 1>today's show. So another new initiative that is coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the immigration apparatus of Eatru administration. This time it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>coming from a DOJA, not from DHS. This was actually

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<v Speaker 1>just announced on Monday. Was a new press release came

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<v Speaker 1>out from the Part Justice on Monday that said called

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump Minstration continues the largest denaturalization efforts ever. So

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<v Speaker 1>the dj announced today that had filed denaturalization actions in

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<v Speaker 1>various US districourts against ten individuals accused of serious offenses

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<v Speaker 1>including sexual abuse of a child's healthcare and wire fraud,

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<v Speaker 1>immigration fraud, and conspiracy to possess with the intense to

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<v Speaker 1>distribute cocaine. So they are pursuing denaturalization, which, as you

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<v Speaker 1>can likely survived by the name, means that you have

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<v Speaker 1>a naturalized citizen and you're trying to strip them of citizenship.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of folks say this is a Nazi fascist tactic.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it's not. There's a statute in the books that

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<v Speaker 1>it has been authorized in this for a century or more.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a very very very old statute and it

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<v Speaker 1>frankly ought to be used. So there definitely are some

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<v Speaker 1>indications that deministration is leaning into this issue. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have this press release coming out in the

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<v Speaker 1>summer of a midterm election year. You wouldn't have dhs

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<v Speaker 1>trump in the fact that the southern border is now

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<v Speaker 1>deeply secure. But on the other hand, there are some

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<v Speaker 1>worrying indications worrying us here on the show, that is

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<v Speaker 1>that many administration and many Republicans in general are backing

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<v Speaker 1>away from this issue. I just mentioned Mark Wayne Mullin's

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<v Speaker 1>convenience flip flop after Trump came over the top to say, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to continue to engage in these vehicular detentions.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to ice officers, I see nixed signals

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<v Speaker 1>more generally when it comes to elected officials on the

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans side of dial. When it comes to conservative consultants,

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<v Speaker 1>the kse Tree class, those in and around the Beltway.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of debates, and not all of it

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<v Speaker 1>is on one side when it comes to how much

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party and conservatives on the outside should lean

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<v Speaker 1>into the immigration issue this November. In other words, I

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<v Speaker 1>see something of a mismatch. Democrats have their ducks all

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<v Speaker 1>lines up in a row. They are totally in unison.

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<v Speaker 1>They are in lockstep. They are in sync when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to messaging the importance of this issue from they're

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<v Speaker 1>harrowing dystopian perspective. That perspective calls for no borders and

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<v Speaker 1>for free migrants, and for no ice and for no

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcem when it comes to enforcing immigration law. It's

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<v Speaker 1>anarchic and it is dystopian. But they're very clear understands

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<v Speaker 1>the match to that on the other side of the aisle,

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<v Speaker 1>on the right side, should be crystal clear. It should

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<v Speaker 1>be borders, security, rule of law, law enforcement ultimately oriented

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<v Speaker 1>towards protecting the health, safety, and flourishing of the American

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<v Speaker 1>people and the American way of life. This is an

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<v Speaker 1>even broader point to make here, and it is as follows.

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<v Speaker 1>Demographics in some cases actually are destiny. Not all cases,

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<v Speaker 1>but in some cases demographics Indeed, our destiny demographics is

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<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of the work here. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that racist destiny, God forbid, but I am saying that

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<v Speaker 1>if you are trying to maintain Americanism, cultural Americanism into

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<v Speaker 1>this next millennium, now that we've celebrated our tun and

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<v Speaker 1>fiftieth anniversary, it is crucial that we only bring in

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<v Speaker 1>new people here who not only love this country, but

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<v Speaker 1>have something to add, contribute, and will fit in seamlessly.

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<v Speaker 1>Cultural compatibility is a sine qua non an indispensable condition

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<v Speaker 1>for the preservation of the American Republic and American way

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<v Speaker 1>of life into the next quarter millennium and beyond. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't hear many Republicans talk about this. Some do. Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Sreman Missouri comes to mind, the Senator who's a quite

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<v Speaker 1>good senator at that. Some of them do. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>them don't lean into this issue. Hispatus came over to

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans during the Trump era. That wasn't in spite of

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's immigration stance. It was because of it. They were

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<v Speaker 1>repelled by the open borders' policies. Yesterdyear, they saw no difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Run on bold colors, run on a stark contrast to

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<v Speaker 1>the borders left Republicans might find out that if they

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<v Speaker 1>do so, they will get much more success then a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the bed wedding castry consultants otherwise would think

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<v Speaker 1>would go to a quick breakflats. We'll be right back

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<v Speaker 1>with more on the other side. Welcome back. So ten

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<v Speaker 1>nights in a row that the United States has now

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<v Speaker 1>struck Iran. Now there is an Iranian official who flew

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<v Speaker 1>to islam Bot Pakistan to meet with Pakistani mediators. Stop

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<v Speaker 1>me if you've heard this one before. Pakistani mediator is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to reach some sort of a cord, some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of equilibrium between the United States and Iran. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>deja vu all over again, as the late Great Yogi

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<v Speaker 1>Bera would have said. Nonetheless, despite the fact that Iran

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<v Speaker 1>is meeting with some mediator, you've had ten straight nights

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States and Iran engaging in mutual crossfire.

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<v Speaker 1>Just this morning, actually there was another blow, quite literally

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<v Speaker 1>and proverbially, you had another tanker, reports Trayanks to Fox

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<v Speaker 1>and there was another tanker that was hit off the

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<v Speaker 1>coast of Oman early this morning by the IRGC, by

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<v Speaker 1>the Iranian regime. And this tanker that was hit off

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of Amon. The crew had to flee and

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<v Speaker 1>abandon the vessel. Meanwhile, Iron continues to target American assets

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<v Speaker 1>and some non American just induscriminate civilian assets. All throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the region, places like Kuwait, Jordan, Bahrain, et cetera, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, all remain under attack. So in short, this

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<v Speaker 1>thing is not showing much of an off ramp at

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<v Speaker 1>this time. And this is the pickle that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>finds himself in, is he wants this war to come

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<v Speaker 1>to a swift conclusion. Apparently, these rumors that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>reporting here on the show that Trump is considering a

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic escalation, trying to immitize and end by going really

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<v Speaker 1>hard on the presidence to immanitize the end. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>who could have gone that crazy idea? Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>the listener of the viewer would have gone that idea

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<v Speaker 1>here on the show, if you were listening way back

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<v Speaker 1>in March. We've been saying that consistently for four months.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently the rumors is that President Frum himself is

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<v Speaker 1>now coming to that conclusion. So there's a possibility here

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<v Speaker 1>of a of a pretty dramatic escalation. We think over

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<v Speaker 1>the next call it week or two. It's very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to put a time frame on these things. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>as we meant yesterday there were a lot of American

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<v Speaker 1>refueling planes that were sent to the region. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like there are chips on the board when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to potentially finishing this war on something remotely resembling a

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<v Speaker 1>just and acceptable outcome for theministration. Meanwhile, Democrats are continuing

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<v Speaker 1>to essentially make fun of President's Trump. They see a

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<v Speaker 1>president who, as we've conceived here on the show, has

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<v Speaker 1>been a little bit all over the map when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to his conduct and his waging of this war effort. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, here was Senator Mark Warner who was on

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<v Speaker 1>CNBC who says that he thinks the presidents ought to

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<v Speaker 1>declare victory and get out of this war with the Ron.

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<v Speaker 1>Here was Center Mark Warner on CNBC.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the president out of Claire victory and

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<v Speaker 3>get out of this war of choice, because if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the four criteria he laid out at the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning regime change, well not so good. We got a

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<v Speaker 3>crowd that's worse than ever. The enriched uranium they've got it.

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<v Speaker 3>It would take fifteen thousand troops on the ground, probably

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<v Speaker 3>four over a week to extract it. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>anybody wants that. The missiles and drones clearly they've got

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<v Speaker 3>that capacity. And what was so crazy is this administration

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<v Speaker 3>turned down the Ukrainian technology that has figured out how

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<v Speaker 3>on a cost effective basis to shoot down Iranian drones

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<v Speaker 3>and hey, straight to hormoes, you know, gases back at

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<v Speaker 3>four dollars, diesels above five. And our image in that

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<v Speaker 3>region in the world is that ourn all time low.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to China. A pole came out last week showing

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<v Speaker 3>a China viewed more favorably than America around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>even amongst our biggest allies. A lot of this was

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<v Speaker 3>due to this folly of this war of choice. I

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<v Speaker 3>could tell you as a chair of former chair of

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<v Speaker 3>the Intel Committee, there was no imminent threat from Iran,

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<v Speaker 3>so it'll be embarrassing. But the president I had declared

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<v Speaker 3>victory and get out as smoothly as possible, So.

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<v Speaker 1>He is deeply exagering center more when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>this phrasing of so called war of choice, Arad's been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to kill President Trump literally quite literally. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a Pakisan national currently sitting in a federal prison cell

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City because he was dually convicted by

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<v Speaker 1>injury of his peers for trying to do exactly that,

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<v Speaker 1>to assassinate Trump on behalf of the Revolutionary Guard Corps.

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<v Speaker 1>We know they've tried to take out members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump family, including his daughter Ivanka. They tried to take

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<v Speaker 1>out various former top officials, people like Mike Pompeo, people

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<v Speaker 1>like John Roland. So there's notion of a war of choice.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally reject that. Our view here on the show

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<v Speaker 1>is that Trump is trying to not start a new

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<v Speaker 1>forever war, but trying at times it seems to conclude

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<v Speaker 1>the forever war launched forty seven years ago by the

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<v Speaker 1>radical apocalyptic Islamist Mullas of the Azong Republic of Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than that, unfortunately, there definitely is some truth to

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<v Speaker 1>what Senator Warner is saying there. You only get so

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<v Speaker 1>many bites at the apple. You have to startready finish,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise you look like a paper tiger.

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<v Speaker 4>He mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>I think back to the earlier days of this war

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<v Speaker 1>at the United States, after we launched the decapitation strike

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<v Speaker 1>against Iotola comment and it took him out. The People's

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<v Speaker 1>Liberation Army, the Army of China went a record breaking

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time without sending any military aircraft or vessels

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<v Speaker 1>into the Strait of Taiwan. In other words, they were subdued,

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<v Speaker 1>they were scared. They're not scared anymore. That's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>On a similar notes, here was Senator Chris Murphy, one

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<v Speaker 1>of Senator Warner's Democratic colleagues, who said on MS now

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<v Speaker 1>that Iran is not really scared of escalation because they

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<v Speaker 1>know the US will likely stop before they stop. Here

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<v Speaker 1>was Senter Murphy on MS now.

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<v Speaker 5>There does not appear to be any path to passing

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<v Speaker 5>another reconciliation bill in the Senate. Senate leadership on the

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<v Speaker 5>building side is basically foreclose that option. And it's obvious

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<v Speaker 5>why they do not want to put Republican senators on

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<v Speaker 5>the record and support of this disastrous and unpopular war

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<v Speaker 5>just months before or the election. So there doesn't appear

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<v Speaker 5>to be a path to replenish the funds. And you

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<v Speaker 5>know what you saw today was some administration officials starting

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<v Speaker 5>to come out anonymously and say that this president's escalatory

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<v Speaker 5>strategy cannot work because there has been so much damage

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<v Speaker 5>done to US infrastructure. They're running out of interceptors that

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to put a lot more troops in danger

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<v Speaker 5>through this escalation because they can't protect troops any longer.

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<v Speaker 5>And the reality is, Chris, even if we gave them

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<v Speaker 5>a quick, short term infusion of money, they can't replace

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<v Speaker 5>these really complicated missiles and interceptors overnight. You know, we

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<v Speaker 5>make ten Tomahawks a year, I think. So they're in

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<v Speaker 5>a spot where, even with new money, they have put

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<v Speaker 5>our forces in really grave danger. And Iran knows that,

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<v Speaker 5>which is why Iran isn't really scared of escalation. They

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<v Speaker 5>know that the United States will likely have to stop

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<v Speaker 5>far before Iran has to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister President, don't you want to prove their democratic doubter

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<v Speaker 1>is wrong? Don't you want that? Now? Trump, to his

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<v Speaker 1>great credit, had what seemed like to melate a great

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<v Speaker 1>mean this morning with President Yoseph I. Jun of Lebanon

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<v Speaker 1>that was there in the White House. Trump deserves a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of credit actually for trying to broker this dayton

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<v Speaker 1>between the United States, well really between Israel and Lebanon,

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<v Speaker 1>with the United States doing the brok ring. We've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>here on the show how This seems to be a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a side by side, ancillary bit of diplomacy

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<v Speaker 1>broker primarily by Rubio and the state departments that happened

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<v Speaker 1>alongside the highly flawed run MoU. It's really promising thus

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<v Speaker 1>far what we have seen when it comes to Israel

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<v Speaker 1>and Lebanon. So thus far we've seen some Israeli troops

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<v Speaker 1>that have withdrawn from the so called pilot zones are

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<v Speaker 1>calling in these places where the Lebanese armed forces, the

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<v Speaker 1>conventional military of Lebanon is going in. Ultimately, all of

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<v Speaker 1>this is trying to secure the area from Hesbal, as

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<v Speaker 1>Trump said this morning with Yosef Iyjun. Ultimately it is

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<v Speaker 1>on Lebanon to enforce their make sure the Hess Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>is not a threat. When it comes to the Iran issue, though,

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<v Speaker 1>things could be heating up soon. So the WHO thies

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<v Speaker 1>this morning saying that they are opening potentially a new

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<v Speaker 1>blockade when it comes to the Red Sea that's in Yemen.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole region is escalating. A lot of this

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<v Speaker 1>was easily foreseeable. Again, the easiest thing for the President

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<v Speaker 1>United States to do at this particular juncture is to

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<v Speaker 1>prove the haters wrong, prove the doubters wrong, to find

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<v Speaker 1>some goals and then work backwards to achieve secure those goals,

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<v Speaker 1>and may it happen a sp because frankly, this is

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<v Speaker 1>already dragged on too far. If you'd ask me back

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<v Speaker 1>in early March whether we'd still be fighting Iran in

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<v Speaker 1>late July, I would have said no. I did not,

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<v Speaker 1>frankly see that come. So we're gonna have a very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting guest for you after our next Mercier break, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a conversation primarily about Bernie Sanders and

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<v Speaker 1>the left. So I want to tee up that conversation

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<v Speaker 1>by playing this clip for you. This is Bernie Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>who was campaigning for a viciously, viciously anti not to say,

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<v Speaker 1>is anti American? Can that abdu El Sayed? In Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>This was happening earlier this week. Here was Bernie Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>campaigning for well and is a miss sympathizing candidates for

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<v Speaker 1>the US Nate out in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 6>We must not give one nickel more of US taxpayers

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<v Speaker 6>to the extremist government in Israel. Not another nickel now

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<v Speaker 6>a pac Man not like that. But that is what

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<v Speaker 6>the American people want. They want to tord Mets that

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<v Speaker 6>education childcamp not goard.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah. Yes, he says, they're all campaigning for Abdul el Sayad,

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<v Speaker 1>a Muslim candidate so radical that he said he would

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<v Speaker 1>not condemn Ayotola commedy because it might offend his constituents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's who Bernie Sanders is campaigning for. Both of We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to a short commercial break and then

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<v Speaker 1>this I'm going to bring on a guest who has

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<v Speaker 1>a thing or two to say about his former boss,

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie Sanders. Joe Rubin joined us after the break, Stay

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<v Speaker 1>with us, Welcome back. So the longtime followers of this

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<v Speaker 1>program know that we typically engage a conversation with folks

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<v Speaker 1>from the right side of America's loolgical spectroom. But today

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to mix things up because our guest today

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<v Speaker 1>is Joel Rubin. So Joel Rubin a name of any

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<v Speaker 1>of you probably are not familiar with, but Joel is,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things, a former deputy assistant Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 1>He also was on the Bernie Sanders campaign in twenty twenty. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're bringing on a Bernie bro on the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>That is definitely a change of pace from our usual

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<v Speaker 1>fair or bring him on For a very interesting reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Joel is someone who I have come to respect because,

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<v Speaker 1>like me, he shares a passion for calling out andy

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<v Speaker 1>Semitism wherever it raises its ugly head. And Joe Rubin,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the main topic of our conversation today. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Josh Hammer Show. We're very happy to have

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<v Speaker 1>you here. Thank you so much. So you are in

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<v Speaker 1>the news today because you gave an interview from the

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<v Speaker 1>Aspen Security Forum. We have the conference name, and you

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<v Speaker 1>were engaged in conversation with a media outlet out there,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish Insider, and you essentially came swinging, just clubbing

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<v Speaker 1>your former boss, Bernie Sanders, for fanning the flames of

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<v Speaker 1>anti Semitism. So I don't want to take your thunder away.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and tell us what you told the media outlet.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Look, at this conference, there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>discussion about American foreign policy and national security and America's

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<v Speaker 4>role in the world, and it was on the heels

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<v Speaker 4>of this real bloody internal fight we had in the

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<v Speaker 4>party over Graham Platner up in Maine. And for me,

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<v Speaker 4>watching the main dynamic and how essentially Bernie Sanders and

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<v Speaker 4>the Sanders operation created Graham Platiner and then pushed him

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<v Speaker 4>forward into the Democratic lane, even after a Nazi tattoo

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<v Speaker 4>was revealed. Was extremely distressing and I've been publicly condemning it.

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<v Speaker 4>We saw so many Democratic members out there advancing and

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<v Speaker 4>advocating for him. You know, really like to have these

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of people right now, this crisis moment in time

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<v Speaker 4>for the United States domestically, for our role in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>our relationship with Israel, all of that. To see the

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<v Speaker 4>progressive base essentially honing in on supporting candidates who are

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<v Speaker 4>deeply hostile to Israel and American Jews is just a

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<v Speaker 4>bridge too far. And I think it violates the principles

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<v Speaker 4>of the Democratic Party, of the progressive movement historically as

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<v Speaker 4>I understand it, and of course is highly offensive to

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<v Speaker 4>me as an American Jew whose family has been there

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<v Speaker 4>for over a century to see a party eat its

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<v Speaker 4>own right now. And I believe that Sara Sanders is

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<v Speaker 4>leading the charge, and I feel like it's time to

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<v Speaker 4>speak out aggressively about this now before it's too late.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow Joe Rubin on x at. Joelma Rooms

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<v Speaker 1>also the author, by the way of the Brand New

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<v Speaker 1>book Saving Democratic Foreign Policies, and go ahead and check

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<v Speaker 1>out his new book as well, Joel, I guess one

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<v Speaker 1>question that comes immediately to my mind is what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>has changed between twenty sixteen, twenty twenty and now. I

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<v Speaker 1>think back to twenty twenty, I always viewed Bernie Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>as being very anti israel. I, always viewed that socialist

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<v Speaker 1>wing of the Democrat parties being very anti israel I. Immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>it's come a bit further in the post Zoramdani age,

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<v Speaker 1>the age of the DSA going mainstream, etc. But what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly has changed, because clearly was palatable to you back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty and nowadays are saying it's not palatable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, I'll lay it out for you. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think there were robust and incredible policy debates between the

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<v Speaker 4>left and the right within the Democratic Party and then

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<v Speaker 4>broadly speaking between Democrats and Republicans on issues like Iran's

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 4>American diplomacy with Israel. But where there wasn't any separation

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<v Speaker 4>was on the idea of combating anti Semitism and having

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<v Speaker 4>readlines about who should and should not be participating in

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<v Speaker 4>our public life and what they should and should not

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<v Speaker 4>be saying and the willingness to call it out. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I remember when I served as the liaison to

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<v Speaker 4>the Jewish community for Sanator Sanders in twenty twenty. I

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<v Speaker 4>went into that operation on the heels of a robust

0:25:54.920 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 4>hostility publicly by Sanders' supporters towards Jews and towards Israe.

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 4>And I was brought in in many ways to try

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<v Speaker 4>to manage that and fix that and straighten that out,

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 4>because in my view, the goal is peace right and

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 4>the goal for the Sanders Operation, progressive foreign policy and

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 4>progressive policy overall is to try to come up with

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 4>peaceful solutions. But what I've seen, and I'll be very

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<v Speaker 4>direct about this, especially since October seventh, has been a

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 4>desire not to promote peace between Israel and palse sittings,

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<v Speaker 4>but to punish the state of Israel and to make

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<v Speaker 4>American Jews feel suspect and insecure and nervous about participating

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 4>publicly in ways where they are also saying that they

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 4>support Jewish life in Israel. And that's what's different, and

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 4>that's what I'm saying right now. Maybe it's like a

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 4>whistleblower's tight dynamic, but it has gone way beyond too far,

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 4>And I'll close with this. For me, it's such a

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<v Speaker 4>desperately sad moment to watch Sanders and other allies who

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 4>know better, who are not laying down the line and

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<v Speaker 4>saying we can't have that kind of speech in our party.

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<v Speaker 4>And these kinds of candidates like a Platinner, we don't include.

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 4>We reject them instead. There are no lines. They've let

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 4>the whole line slip away. It's putting American Jews in

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 4>particular and Democratic Party at real risk and frankly trying

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 4>it's an attempt to push this out, which only harms

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 4>the party and the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, there's definitely an dynamic on the

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>right that is trying to make Jews Juden Ryan on

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>the right make the American right free of Jews as well.

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 1>We see this in not so subtle fashion from people like.

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<v Speaker 4>How you've experienced it directly.

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>I have, And that's why I want to bring you

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.239
<v Speaker 1>on the show, because just as I call out these

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>voices on my side of the aisle, I respect the

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>fact very much Joe, that you do the exact same

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>on your side of the aisle. I guess one follow

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>up question, there are definitely some folks in the Democratic Party,

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.719
<v Speaker 1>some lefted officials, people like Congressman Gothheimer from New Jersey, Moscow.

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:49.719
<v Speaker 1>It's from here in Florida where I live, who were

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<v Speaker 1>pushing back very hard against this. But the polling shows

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that they are in a pretty pretty substantial minority. It

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.959
<v Speaker 1>depends on the poll but it's looking somewhat somewhat grim,

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll say, so, how do you assess the

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 1>chances of the Democratic Party, of your party writing the

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>ship and not necessarily getting to where I personally am

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>on these issues. I don't expect that, but at least

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.679
<v Speaker 1>getting back to a place where there is something of

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>a cordon sanitaire, where there is something resembling saying that

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>certain viewpoints are just totally totally not in play here.

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Is there any chance of getting back to that paradigm?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, Josh, right now, we're in the middle

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 4>of that fight, and it is it is becoming very

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.959
<v Speaker 4>clear publicly, and it's getting bloody. I think for the

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 4>party large, the idea that we can win in competitive

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 4>races in purple districts with extreme candidates that are repulsive

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 4>to a chunk of the Democratic Party itself is laughable.

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 4>And we're going to see that tested across the country.

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<v Speaker 4>I do believe the American people want a broad, centrist

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 4>kind of policy, and they want candidates and people who

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.719
<v Speaker 4>don't speak with terms that are rooted in hate. And

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 4>I gotta say this quite bluntly to me as an

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 4>American Jew again, someone who's been here five generations, served

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 4>my country and government, served my country overseas in the

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 4>Peace Corps, worked on progressive politics. To see the kind

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 4>of vitriol that's being directed directed at Jewish Americans, in

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 4>particular those of us who support the right of Israel

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<v Speaker 4>to exist, including those of us who've been advocating for

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 4>peace for Middle East. In the Middle East, I find

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 4>it completely antithetical to the vision of America and the

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 4>United States. And we need two healthy parties. So for

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 4>Democrats right now, who are fighting for what I'm advocating for,

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 4>we are in a real bloodbath. We are in a fight.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>It is bloody.

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<v Speaker 4>I should say Josh Gotttheimer is one, but there are many.

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 4>And Hakeem Jeffries recently spoke with Haret Sanders, it was reported,

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 4>and they got into a shouting match and Hakim basically said,

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 4>get out of my primaries. You're putting these people in

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 4>that are undermining my members, and so it's a real fight.

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<v Speaker 4>It does matter to the future of the party. The

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 4>party can knot go way of Jeremy Corbin in England

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 4>where it just descends into hatred and anti Semitism. There

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 4>is no healthy political movement in the world that has

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:09.719
<v Speaker 4>gotten rid of their Jews.

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's just restate.

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 4>That any political movement that kicks out the Jews is

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 4>an unhealthy, dangerous political movement and we need to make

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 4>sure that does not happen. But right now in the party,

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 4>that's the risk, and I think it's very dangerous to

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 4>the country as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Foal, question for you, Joel, and again folks

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>with chain with Joel Rubin, former liaison for the Jewish

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Community for the Bernie sans comband who is now coming

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>out swinging against his foreign boss. Joel. Just about sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds left. But I wanted to ask you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>back to a friend of mine who went to law

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>school around the time that I did, and he's a

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Jewish guy, but he's very progressive as politics, and he

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>told me that he was besmirched just about a decade

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>he was besmirched by his classmates for being a PEI

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>progressive except Israel like that, that was the acronym PEI.

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>So this is already happening a decade ago, and now

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>we're a decade or moved. I guess the question is

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>for you, is there's such thing as an intellectually stable

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and consistent progressive politics that does not encompass some deep

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>skepticism and minimum of the state of Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Hey, I've been a public critic of policies that

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 4>I disagree with, the Netsan Yahoo policies over the years

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 4>supporting settlement expansion in the West Bank, I've been very

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 4>critical of. I believe there needs to be Middle East peace.

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 4>I was an I am a fan of the left

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 4>in Israel, and I think that's healthy and that's relevant. Look,

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Israel is an American ally. It is a state of

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 4>over ten million people in the heart of the Middle East.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 4>It is a recognized member of the United Nations. It's

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 4>not going anywhere, and we, as a strong ally of Israel,

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.479
<v Speaker 4>have an obligation to talk to that country about the

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 4>policies that it's pursuing and the long term prospects for

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 4>peace based on those policies. But where it's now off

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 4>the rails is that the conversation in the base of

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 4>the Democratic Party is about whether or not Israel should

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 4>even exist. That's preposterous. It's genocidal language. It is offensive

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 4>to American Jews. It's offensive and should be offensive to

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 4>all Americans who care about our role in the world

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 4>and maintaining our alliances. And so I think we just

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 4>need to be very clear on who is and who

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 4>is not participating.

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<v Speaker 1>In John, I un fortunate were at the time, but

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you've been very clear, and we appreciate that clarity tremendously. Folks.

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and check out Joel's new books, Saving Democratic

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Foreign Policy. Follow him on ex at Joel Martin, Reuben, Joel,

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>keep up the good fight. We really appreciate what we're

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>doing here. Thanks for coming on the show today, Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>We be right back after a short break. Stay with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. So a few weeks ago on the show,

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>we had doctor John Eastman as our guest. We're gonna

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>get John back on, hopefully sooner rather than later. I

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>have known John Eastman for years, and I have been

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>very very outspoken over the years in his defense because

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is a man who has been

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>unjustly targeted, unjustly persecuted, and that he has been made

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the poster boy, the poster boy of conservatives who are

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>pro Trump, and also conservatives who just happens to be

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>attorney who are in the legal profession, because, among other things,

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>as you know, I am also an attorney. So Johnny

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Eastman hasn't punished for well many reasons. He was punished

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>in a bit of group think many years ago when

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>he first started developing the theory of a birth relizenship

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that ultimately attained four votes at the US Supreme Court

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>in the most recent case Trump versus Barbara. So definitely

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a partial vindication for john in that respect, But most

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>recently and even more vehemently, he has been punished profusely

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>when it came to his legal representation of Donald Trump

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>during the twenty twenty election. I need you to understand

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>this very simple basic point. John Eastman was a lawyer,

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was his client. I took legal ethics when

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I was in law school. One of the most basic

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>rules in legal ethics. Even the liberal aba, the American Barslvision,

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>they would readily admit this one of the most basic

0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>rules in legal ethics is to zealously defend your client.

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>The word zealous is a were of this oftentimes tossed

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>around in this context. You have an obligation to do that.

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>What have they tried to do to John Eastman just

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 1>for zealously defending his clients when it came to his

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>arguments about about the electors and this and the slave

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>electors January sixt cetera. Oh yeah, they have literally tried

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to destroy his life. He has lost virtually every job

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>he had, his academic purch He's lost every job other

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>than his perch at the Claremont Institute, which has nobly

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and admirably honorably stayed by John. And most recently, they

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>have stripped him of his law license in the state

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>of California. Yes, that's really a thing that happened. It

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>was a case of working its ranks through the ministrative

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>courts of the California bar for years, and now they've

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>gone ahead and they have actually done it. They have

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>done the deed. They have stripped John Eastman of his

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>license to practice law. He has been disbarred for what

0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>for defending his client. It's absolute ludicrous, it's absolute preposterous.

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>There is a new op ed over at the Federalists

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>that came out earlier this week from the Sekalo brothers,

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>j Sechelo and Jordan Ceclo of the acl Jade MICROSPT

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>for Law and Justice. They are representing Johnny's been in

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 1>a first Mement challenge to the United States Supreme Court

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>to make it. They're making a legal argument here that

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the first Memen prohibits the government from imposing professional discipline

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>on attorney for advancing legal arguments on constitutional questions. Seems

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to me to be a pretty straightforward, open and shut case.

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>We will see if the Court goes ahead and grants

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>this rit of sociare and agrees to hear this case,

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>because right now they're just trying to get this case heard.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not being a said to yet. It'll be. It'd

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>be a very interesting test case, frankly for the justice

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>is the so called rule of four, where you need

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>four of the non justice to vote to hear a case.

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>That's how you get a rid of cert That's how

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 1>you hear the case in the first place. Many many

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>years ago, Johnny has been clerk for Clarence Thomas. I

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>would assume class Thomas will be a vote to Grant Sert,

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>probably Sam Alito, probably Neil Gorstich. Then you'll probably need

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>one more vote. Who will that be? Will it be Kavanaugh,

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Roberts or Barrett? I don't know. Really, it should be

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>all nine, because again, this is a fairly open and shutcase.

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 1>To me, the broader argument is as follows. Think back

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to the civil rights movement in America. I think back

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:27.439
<v Speaker 1>to a case called Alabama versus NUBACP, a case three

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court out of Alabama, as a name would imply,

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<v Speaker 1>in the late nineteen fifties, at the heart of the

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<v Speaker 1>segregation desegregation battles, it was admirable at the time for

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers to represent the NAACP. Now that that organization has

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<v Speaker 1>gone away to the left in recent decades, but back

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<v Speaker 1>then it was a noble civil rights organization. And the

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<v Speaker 1>attorneys back then were scored. Many of them were scoffed

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<v Speaker 1>at by polite legal attorney society. But imagine what happened

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<v Speaker 1>if they had been disbarred for representing a quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>unpopular client in that case, THEAACP, in that case, black

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<v Speaker 1>people in Alabama. Imagine that what that would have said

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<v Speaker 1>for a whole generation of civil rights attorneys. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. It's an American. The entire premise of America's

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<v Speaker 1>adversarial system of litigation, the way law operates in this

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<v Speaker 1>country is you have adversaries offering competing visions, competing legal arguments,

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<v Speaker 1>and a case or controversy, and you have lawyers who

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<v Speaker 1>defend those clients and advocate zealously. That's the whole shebang,

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<v Speaker 1>as they say, it's the whole operation. That's how it works,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least that's how it ought to work. So

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<v Speaker 1>God will in the Uspreme Court. Here's this case involving

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny's been getting disbarred out of California, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>try to bring john back on for the show sooner

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<v Speaker 1>roun than layers. You can hear about his latest travails

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<v Speaker 1>straight from the horse's mouth, as they say so. In

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<v Speaker 1>other domestic news, Senator Darlene Graham, who was the sister

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<v Speaker 1>of the late Lindsay Graham, she gave her first full

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<v Speaker 1>length interview. It was with Sean Hanney on his program

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<v Speaker 1>on Fox News on Monday evening. Darlene Graham initially was

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<v Speaker 1>just tapped by President Trump to fill out the remainder

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<v Speaker 1>of this term. Because Lindsay Graham was up for reelection

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<v Speaker 1>this November. It was to be the start of a

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<v Speaker 1>new six year term come January twenty twenty seven. And

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<v Speaker 1>when Trump reached out to Darlene Graham and said, Darlene,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be nice for you to two for you to

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<v Speaker 1>keep up your brother's legacy, fill out the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>this term, she said yes. And now she has changed

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<v Speaker 1>her mind, and she's told Sean Hannity that she intends

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<v Speaker 1>to run for a full term. Not to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have it yet. There's actually an upcoming primary on

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<v Speaker 1>August eleventh in the Palmetto State. She's gonna face challengers.

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<v Speaker 1>There are other Republicans who have thrown their hat into

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<v Speaker 1>the mix. Thankfully, Nancy Mace is not one of Nancy Mace,

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<v Speaker 1>who is one of the worst Congressmen in the entire

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<v Speaker 1>Republican caucus, who just finished a distant fifth in the

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<v Speaker 1>gruminatorial primary in South Carolina, has said that she's not

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<v Speaker 1>running for Senate. I can't imagine why. Literally no one

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.959
<v Speaker 1>wants her to do so. Nonetheless, there will be others

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<v Speaker 1>who will throw their hat into the ring. So Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Frye is one whose name is bandied abouts quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, potentially the etern General, potentially the lieutenant governor

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<v Speaker 1>to the Governor, Henry McMaster. We will see. Arline Graham

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<v Speaker 1>is going to have challengers. I don't like the facts

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<v Speaker 1>that she is likely going to win this I presume

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<v Speaker 1>that she will probably win this seat. Trump is endorsing her.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not entirely sure why. We don't really know a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot about where Darlene Graham stands on the issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>She did give one sound by where she said that

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<v Speaker 1>her focus will be more on kitchen kitchen singing, bread

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<v Speaker 1>and butter issues rather than her late brother Lindsay's focus

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<v Speaker 1>really above all on foreign policy, NA security, and I

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<v Speaker 1>totally respect that. I'm not opposed to that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But other than that, we just don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>where does she stands when it comes to immigration. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea. Lindsey Graham is a squish immigration okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he fought would have been the first to admit that.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Darling Graham going to be a hard liner? Is

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<v Speaker 1>she going to be with the horror liners in the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate when it comes to immigration, or is she going

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of the squish caucus. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>freaking clue. Don't we deserve to know that before we

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<v Speaker 1>go all in for her? Well, I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>think that the answer would be yes. Unfortunately, I just

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea really what the answer is going to be. Incidentally,

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<v Speaker 1>the generic ballad for this November seems to be tightening

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit so. According to Morning Consults, which tracks

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<v Speaker 1>this on an essentially daily basis, the generic congressional ballot

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty stays currently has Democrats at forty six percent

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<v Speaker 1>of Republicans at forty three percent. That's a very narrow

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<v Speaker 1>margin given how the administration's prove wrnings now, President Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>prove rinnnings have been generally going in one direction and

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<v Speaker 1>not for the better for the better parts of a

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<v Speaker 1>few months now. So it's still a very very tight

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<v Speaker 1>race on the congression ballot. And the basic explanation for

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<v Speaker 1>that is that the brand for the Democratic Party is

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<v Speaker 1>in the freaking gutter in the toilet, insert your analogy

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<v Speaker 1>of choice. If anything, Democrats are actually even more unpopular

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<v Speaker 1>these days than Republicans and President Trump. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>why the art of negative campaigning absolutely could be the

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<v Speaker 1>saving grace of Republicans this fall. Make the arment of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are crazy, Make the arment that they are

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring domestic violence. Make the arment that they are championing

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<v Speaker 1>failed socialist policies that have destroyed countless countries Venezuela, Cuba

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<v Speaker 1>among them, right in our own hemisphere, and have led

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<v Speaker 1>to the deaths of ultimately one hundred million or more people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's communism, chiefly those deaths coming in the Civic Union

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<v Speaker 1>and in mau Zi Dung's communist China. Those are the

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<v Speaker 1>argments that can actually win you the election. Make the

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<v Speaker 1>case on economics, make the case on immigration, as we

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<v Speaker 1>said earlier to lead off our show today, and above all,

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<v Speaker 1>make the case that Democrats are freaking crazy because they're

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<v Speaker 1>letting people like let's see Abdul al said in Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Hamaway the Friends of the Blind Shake from the

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<v Speaker 1>Rold Trades Iner bombing. He's going to be potentially in

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<v Speaker 1>Congress from New Jersey's twelfingngresional districts. These people are freaking

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<v Speaker 1>backcramp crazy. Make the arguments, and no matter what your

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<v Speaker 1>woes may or may not be Republicans, you may find

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<v Speaker 1>yourself still in the majority come January twenty twenty seven, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great rest of evening. We will be right

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<v Speaker 1>back with Zelway's tomorrow