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Speaker 1: Life Audio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Love Offering Podcast. I'm your host, Rachel Adams,

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Speaker 2: author of Everyday Prayers for Love, Learning to Love God, others,

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Speaker 2: and even yourself. Each week we dive into meaningful conversations

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Speaker 2: about how to live out the greatest commandment, living God

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Speaker 2: with all of our heart's soul, mind and strength, and

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Speaker 2: loving our neighbors as ourselves, whether through inspiring stories, practical wisdom,

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Speaker 2: or biblical truth. My hope is to encourage you to

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Speaker 2: love boldly, live faithfully, and reflect God's love in your

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Speaker 2: everyday life. Today, I'm honored to welcome Cheryl Marshall to

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Speaker 2: the show. Cheryl serves as director of Women's Ministry at

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Speaker 2: Founder's Baptist Church in Spring, Texas. With more than twenty

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Speaker 2: five years of experience discipling and teaching women in the

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Speaker 2: local church, Cheryl is passionate about helping women grow deeper

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Speaker 2: in their devotion to Christ and live lives fully surrendered

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Speaker 2: to Him. Her newest book, All of Me, Pursuing a

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Speaker 2: Life Wholly Devoted to God, explores the transforming truths of

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Speaker 2: Romans Chapter twelve, Verses one and two, and invites readers

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Speaker 2: to discover what it truly means. To worship God with

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Speaker 2: every part of their lives. You can also hear Cheryl

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Speaker 2: weekly on the Whole Life Worship podcast. Well, hello Cheryl,

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Speaker 2: and welcome back to the Love of Ring podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: so happy to have you again.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's nice to be back. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you just told me that you are getting

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Speaker 2: to live maybe a dream of mine. Tell us where

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Speaker 2: you are right now.

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Speaker 1: I am just outside of Oxford, England. My husband and

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Speaker 1: I are here for the semester. He's on sabbatical from

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Speaker 1: his professor position at Houston Christian University, obviously in Houston,

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Speaker 1: but we are in Oxford and we're actually staying on

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Speaker 1: the grounds of a manor for the entire time we're here.

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Speaker 1: It's called Yarnton Manor and we live on the farm,

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Speaker 1: which basically means we are in one of the cottages

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Speaker 1: and we're spending our time here sight seeing but also

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Speaker 1: working on projects. He's working on a commentary, I'm working

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Speaker 1: on different things and it's just been a RESTful time

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Speaker 1: but also a time of some good focused work and

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful to the Lord for this time that

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Speaker 1: we've had together here.

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Speaker 2: So have you been posting some of this on Instagram

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Speaker 2: because if so, we all need to head over there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, others have said that. I've gotten comments

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Speaker 1: people saying I'm living through you at this time. So

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Speaker 1: even this morning, I just posted what I call the

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Speaker 1: secret Garden. There literally is a secret garden here at

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Speaker 1: the Manor. So yeah, I'm posting things from our trips

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Speaker 1: and from the Manor just beautiful flowers of course. So

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Speaker 1: it's been a blessing.

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Speaker 2: Well I'm going to head over there after on Instagram Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Okay, trimmed, Well good, I may head over there too.

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Speaker 2: So your your new book All of Me, and I'm

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Speaker 2: so excited to talk about it. But I'd love to

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Speaker 2: just know when did you give God all of your heart?

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Speaker 2: I kind of tell us a little bit about your

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Speaker 2: testimony to begin.

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Speaker 1: Good question, I would say, when did God get all

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Speaker 1: of me? Right? I was a very young I was

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Speaker 1: five years old. My parents had been sharing the gospel

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Speaker 1: Lord saved me at age five. And so as an

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Speaker 1: encouragement to all you mama's out there, just be sharing

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Speaker 1: the gospel with your children, but also trust the Lord

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Speaker 1: to do his work in his time. And in my situation,

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Speaker 1: it was very early in life. So I still remember

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Speaker 1: the day I was speaking with my mother and you know,

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Speaker 1: I quote unquote asked Jesus into my heart. But what

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Speaker 1: I do remember, I do remember distinctly thinking I am

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Speaker 1: a sinner and only Jesus can save me. And I

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Speaker 1: just looked at me and she said, Cheryl, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people cry when they come to Jesus. So I

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Speaker 1: don't remember a whole lot of spiritual growth during my

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Speaker 1: elementary years. Of course, you know a lot of that's

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Speaker 2: So moving on to your college year's early adulthood, when

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Speaker 2: did you meet your husband? Because it is neat that

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, even today he was speaking at something and

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Speaker 1: this afternoon he said, oh, we both get to do

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Speaker 1: something like that today. So, yeah, you're right, we both

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Speaker 1: so the Lord has I think the longer we're married,

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Speaker 1: the more and more I see why this is the

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Speaker 1: man God gave me. So I am thankful for him,

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Speaker 1: and I am blessed. And the Lord was good again.

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Speaker 1: The Lord is good.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Well, I'm only a couple hours from Louisville.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Kentucky girl. Okay, we probably crossed perhaps before.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to take a brief break to hear

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Speaker 2: we will talk more about Romans twelve and what it

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Speaker 2: means to become a living second. Welcome back. I am

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Speaker 2: talking with Cheryl Marshall about her book All of Me.

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Speaker 2: And so you really focus on Romans chapter twelve and

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Speaker 2: for this book. So why do you believe these verses

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Speaker 2: provide such a powerful roadmap for wholehearted devotion to God.

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Speaker 1: I think these two verses are placed in such a

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Speaker 1: strategic place in the book of Romans. No Romans one

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Speaker 1: Romans twelve one starts off with by the mercies of God,

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Speaker 1: all about God's mercies. That's where he shows us our

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Speaker 1: desperate need for a savior. He shows us how Christ

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Speaker 1: explains how it's by His sovereign grace that we are

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Speaker 1: eleven and it's amazing. That's where Paul then just erupts

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Speaker 1: through Him, and to Him are all things. To Him

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Speaker 1: all I've shown you so far, present your lives, present

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Speaker 1: that He's working through us, as it says in Flippings

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Speaker 2: When we hear the words sacrifice, we're tempted to just

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Speaker 2: kind of like these feelings them. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: That is right, but it's a lifelong process of God

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Speaker 1: teaching us that that's what we really are. We are

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Speaker 1: it's always easy, because we are still battling the flesh, right,

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Speaker 1: We're learning we are not autonomous. We depend upon the Lord,

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Speaker 1: whether we recognize it or not. But he teaches us.

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Speaker 1: He's patient with us to teach us how to be

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Speaker 2: Well, and Jesus modeled being a living sacrifice, so you know,

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Speaker 2: that's that's who we're sacrificing for. So talk to us

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Speaker 1: Well, it makes me there's so many things that could

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Speaker 1: be said about that, right, Like, my mind goes in

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Speaker 1: to focus there. There's many other things that could be said,

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Speaker 1: that which is good and acceptable and perfect. Now Jesus,

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Speaker 1: will glorify himself through you. So in those distractions of

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Speaker 1: this can be done as worship unto the Lord. I

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Speaker 1: can do this for his glory. As you're dealing with disobedience,

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Speaker 1: to the Lord for the forgiveness I have in my Savior,

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Speaker 1: share with others how they can move forward out of

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Speaker 1: their sin as well. And then for those who are discouraged,

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Speaker 1: just realizing the enemy wants you to believe those lies.

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Speaker 1: But I love what it says in Ephesians two ten

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Speaker 1: that we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for

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Speaker 1: good works, which He prepared beforehand for those that we

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Speaker 1: may walk in them. And no Christian is excluded from that,

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Speaker 1: not even the woman who has regrets. God has given

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Speaker 1: you good things to do for His glory, and I

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Speaker 1: encourage you to not look at your past as an

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Speaker 2: Amen. Goodness, that was so good, And I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to continue today's conversation. But we're going to take another

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Speaker 2: brief break to hear a word from today's sponsor, and

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Speaker 2: when we come back, we'll talk about surrender, sanctification, and

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Speaker 2: living transformed lives.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I am talking with Cheryl Marshall about her book All

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Speaker 2: of Me. You know, you emphasize that our devotion to

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Speaker 2: God begins with understanding his mercy. So why is remembering

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Speaker 2: God's mercy so essential to living faithfully rather than striving

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Speaker 2: out of guilt or performance?

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Speaker 1: Good question? All other motivations other than mercy will fail us.

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Speaker 1: None of them are strong enough to carry us through

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Speaker 1: a lifetime of genuine devotion to the Lord. And so

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Speaker 1: it's no accident that Paul there says, by the mercies

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Speaker 1: is stronger than any guilt, than any guilt that says,

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Speaker 1: to make up for my past sin. God's mercy is

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Speaker 1: stronger than any fear, any fear that says, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I don't do this or I don't do that,

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Speaker 1: then God won't love me. And of course it's stronger

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Speaker 1: than pride. It totally obliterates pride, the kind of pride

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Speaker 1: that says, you know, I can live a good life

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Speaker 1: going to do. I'm just going to pull myself up

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Speaker 1: we can't. We need the Holy Spirit within us. God's

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Speaker 1: mercy is his goodness and kindness towards those in need,

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Speaker 1: and so first of all, we need to understand how

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Speaker 1: Apart from His work in us. Like I mentioned earlier

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Speaker 1: in Ephesians, two ten. We cannot glorify him. We are

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Speaker 1: exercise is actually going through Romans one through eleven. Just

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Speaker 1: the different ways we see God being gracious to us

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Speaker 1: in the Gospel. And as you do that, you'll find

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Speaker 1: It's almost like a wave after wave after wave of

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Speaker 1: can do is actually sit there and circle the ones

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Speaker 1: meaningful to you, and think about the meditate on them,

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Speaker 1: And then prayerfully go through that. And I think as

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Speaker 1: through Christ, that it starts to fill up your heart

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Speaker 1: with thankfulness and praise. And what we then find is

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Speaker 1: that is the motivation for the living for Him. You know,

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Speaker 1: very beginning, cannot hold the weight of a life devoted

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Speaker 1: to him. It's only on the mercy of God that

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Speaker 1: we can build that kind of life.

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Speaker 2: For the woman listening today who longs to give her

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Speaker 2: what encouragement would you offer her today?

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Speaker 1: I would say, focus on Jesus again. I'll mention Mary

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Speaker 1: She adored him, she listened to him, she communed with him.

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Speaker 1: And I believe that Martha learned from that situation. When

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Speaker 1: the Lord rebuked her. We later see how she responded

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Speaker 1: rightly to the Lord. But I would say to that

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Speaker 1: woman who is struggling, who is feeling dry, maybe she's

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Speaker 1: Lord again, to go to Romans, to look even in

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Speaker 1: the Gospels, at how patient and kind and gracious the

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Speaker 1: Lord is with his people. And just be praying, praying, God,

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Speaker 1: unite my heart to fear your name. If there are

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Speaker 1: distractions in your life, bring them to the Lord in prayer.

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Speaker 1: Talk to him about it. He knows your weaknesses. He

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Speaker 1: understands the struggles that are on your shoulders that you're

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Speaker 1: having to bear, and ask him, Lord, will you please

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Speaker 1: show me in this from your word, how to take

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Speaker 1: the next step of obedience in a way that honors you,

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Speaker 1: that there's something in their life that they are aware

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Speaker 1: of that is holding them back from that from honoring

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Speaker 1: the Lord with their lives, I would say, look again

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Speaker 1: a beautiful, wonderful, gracious savior you have, and bring your

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Speaker 1: sin to him in prayer. He knows it's there. You

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Speaker 1: know it's there, Confess it. And I would also say

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Speaker 1: to the woman who may be in that situation, if

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Speaker 1: you're like you know, I am really struggling with the

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Speaker 1: sin of my life, I encourage you to approach your

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Speaker 1: woman that you know in the faith, and ask her,

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Speaker 1: just be humble, ask them, will you please help me

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Speaker 1: walk through this and give me accountability and encouragement. And then,

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Speaker 1: of course for the woman who is in a time

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Speaker 1: of discouragement. I think of Elijah in One Kings nineteen

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Speaker 1: after the Mount Carmel experience, where he has seen the

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Speaker 1: victory of God against the prophets of bail and Jezebel says,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to now kill you because you've destroyed my men,

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Speaker 1: so I'm after you now. And Elijah's so discouraged. He

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Speaker 1: tree and he goes to sleep. The Angel of the

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Speaker 1: Lord comes and meets him there and gives him something

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Speaker 1: to drink, something to eat, and allows him to rest.

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Speaker 1: A short time later, the Lord speaks to Elijah and

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Speaker 1: he reminds him of his presence, and then what he

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Speaker 1: does is he gives him new instructions to go do

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Speaker 1: something more. And you're like, give the guy a break,

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Speaker 1: let him rest. But I think God knows that even

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Speaker 1: in times of discouragement, we need to listen to his voice,

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Speaker 1: and today we do that in his words, and then

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Speaker 1: we need to go on to the next thing he

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Speaker 1: has given us to do. And sometimes we say I

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Speaker 1: don't want to do the next thing. Okay, take a

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Speaker 1: drink of water like Elijah, and have something to eat, rest,

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Speaker 1: take advance of the physical help the Lord has given

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Speaker 1: you in this moment, But then more importantly, listen to

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Speaker 1: get up and do it. And it is as we

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Speaker 1: do that over and over again, he is strengthening those

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Speaker 1: spiritual muscles to be women who truly worship Him with

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Speaker 1: our lives. Yes, we adore him with our words, but

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Speaker 1: there's an element of biblical worship that also includes allegiance.

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Speaker 1: This is my good Lord, this is my good King,

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Speaker 1: and I now get to honor him with my next step.

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Speaker 2: So is there a biblical concept of love that you

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Speaker 2: think applies to this topic today?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I see it on both sides. I see

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Speaker 1: because of the love of God. The love of God

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Speaker 1: after that it says that's the passage where it says

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Speaker 1: for ourselves but for him. Jesus loves us. We have

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Speaker 1: a love for Jesus, and a response of that is

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Speaker 1: to be a life of worship unto him. So it

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Speaker 1: goes all the way back also to seeing the love

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Speaker 1: love for the Father, the son obeyed the Father all

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Speaker 1: the way unto death for us for his people. And

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Speaker 1: as we sit and meditate upon that in the Word

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Speaker 1: of God again in Romans one through eleven, which then

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Speaker 1: leads us to Romans twelve, we see how glorious God's

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Speaker 1: of Romans twelve one and two we then see this

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Speaker 1: is how I now express my love to the Lord.

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Speaker 1: I get to love him. Yes, that may include sacrifice,

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Speaker 1: But once I get to the other side of that,

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Speaker 1: I see how good God is and I see how

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Speaker 1: his plans for me are perfect.

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Speaker 2: You know, before we head on over to Instagram to

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Speaker 2: go look and see where you are, I think we

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Speaker 2: need to be all head over to Romans chapter eleven

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Speaker 2: and chapter twelve.

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Speaker 1: That would be a good stop.

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Speaker 2: That would way good stop. Well, so I know that

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Speaker 2: I want to stay connected with you, as your listeners

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Speaker 2: are going to want to, So tell us something you're

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Speaker 2: loving right now and then tell us how we can

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Speaker 2: stay in contact with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, right now, I am just loving being in England.

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Speaker 1: I'm loving the flowers that are here at the manor,

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Speaker 1: and every few days, every week or so, you see

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Speaker 1: a new color and a new plant blooming, and so

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Speaker 1: you just see that and you see God's creativity, you

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Speaker 1: see his power, you just see the beauty living in

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Speaker 1: Actually I live in Houston, Texas, I don't always get

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Speaker 1: so I'm grateful for that. I just love that. And

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Speaker 1: as far as staying in touch, my website is Cherylmarshall

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Speaker 1: dot com and Instagram is Underscore Cheryl Marshall if you

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Speaker 1: want to see some pictures of England. And then of

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Speaker 1: course there's the Whole Life Worship pot Cast which comes

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Speaker 1: out weekly and I'd love to have you all join

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Speaker 1: me there.

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Speaker 2: We will include that in the show notes. But would

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Speaker 2: you pray for us as we come to a close today.

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Speaker 1: Heavenly Father, we thank you that you are a God

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Speaker 1: of love. You are the God of love who has

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Speaker 1: loved us with an everlasting love. We thank you for

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Speaker 1: how you've shown us that through your son Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 1: thank you that he died on the cross for our sins,

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Speaker 1: that because of him, our sins are forgiven. We are

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Speaker 1: completely made clean and we are now restored to you.

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Speaker 1: And Lord, I thank you also that we have eternal

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Speaker 1: life awaiting us, that we will spend eternity worshiping you,

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Speaker 1: praising you, serving you. Lord. We don't even know what

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Speaker 1: that looks like, but our hearts long for it. And

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Speaker 1: for those Lord who are listening today and they hear

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Speaker 1: about the discouragement and the disobedience and the distractions, and

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Speaker 1: they say, God, that's where I am. Take me out

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Speaker 1: of this. Lord, I pray that you will meet them there,

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Speaker 1: that you will take them by the hand and by

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Speaker 1: your spirit, that you will lead them forward. Lord, I

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Speaker 1: thank you that when you get give us instruction in

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Speaker 1: the scriptures, you also give us the grace to follow,

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Speaker 1: and we just praise you for that. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: loving us in that way and in Jesus precious name.

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Speaker 2: Amen, Amen, Cheryl, thank you for encouraging us. It's clear

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Speaker 2: and evident that you have given the Lord all of you,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for encouraging us and inspiring us to

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Speaker 2: do the same. Thank you, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: listening to The Love Offering Podcast. I hope today's conversation

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Speaker 2: encourage you to love God, love others, and even love

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Speaker 2: yourself with greater grace and intention. If you enjoyed this episode,

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Speaker 2: please share it with a friend and leaver review. It

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Speaker 2: helps others find the show and spreads the message of

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Speaker 2: love even further. To connect with me, visit me on

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Speaker 2: my website at Rachelkaadams dot com, where you can download

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Speaker 2: the Love Offering Calendar, a free resource field with simple

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Speaker 2: daily ways to love those around you. Be sure to

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Speaker 2: pick up Cheryl Marshall's new book All of Me, Pursuing

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Speaker 2: a Life Wholly Devoted to God. A special thank you

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Speaker 2: to Life Audio for supporting this podcast and making it

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Speaker 2: again for joining us today. Until next time, let's make

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Speaker 2: our lives and offering of love