1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Everyday Prayers Podcast with Million Praying Moms. 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: I'm your host Nicolette Bell, and I am delighted today 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: to have Jennifer Duke's Lee on the podcast with us 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: to discuss her new book, How To Love Your Morning. 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Jennifer, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. I 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: love Million Praying Moms. I love this podcast, and yeah, 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: just hello to the listeners. What a great place to 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: be today. Yeah, we're so glad that you all have 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: joined us. 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: And I am personally very excited to talk to Jennifer 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: about her new book because I have been reading it 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: and loving it, and so I have I was sharing 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: with Jennifer before we got started that I've found just 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: kind of an exhale in this work that you have 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: given us, Jennifer, and just so many pressures I feel 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: like are put on us as moms. 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I've just been able to kind of like. 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: And let go of some of that and step into 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: deeper and meaningful relationship with Jesus. 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: And so I'm just excited to get to talk to 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: you today. 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: So for those that don't know you, Jennifer, let's just 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: kick off that letting you tell us a little bit 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: about you. 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: Well, I am one of the million praying moms out 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: in the world. I am a mom and I love prayer. 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: I live on a farm in northwest Iowa. This is 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: where we raised our daughters. It's a fifth generation family farm, 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: farming this ground since eighteen seventy. So that's pretty cool 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: to get to be a part of something so special 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: with so much heritage and history. It's a great place 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: to raise girls. It's a place where God really grew 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: my faith. Newspaper reporter before we moved here, I worked 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: for metropolitan sized newspapers. Then we moved to the farm, 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: and I thought my writing was dead, Like there weren't 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: even really I hadn't even heard of a blog when 38 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: we moved here, But then that started to come into play. 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Social media has happened, and you know, social media gets 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: a bad rap, but man, it was it was what 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: helped me turn from a news reporter to a good 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: news news reporter. And that's what I began to do. 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: I began to write daily devotions on my blog and 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: on social media. That led to books, and so now 45 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: I've been writing books for the last twelve years. And 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: now our kids are grown up they're out of the house. 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: They've they're done with college. We have one in Indonesia, 48 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: full time mission there, and our other daughter is at 49 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: Yale Divinity School getting her Masters at Divinity. So they 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: both lived very far away, very far from the farm. 51 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, And from what I understand from your story, 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: you did not grow up on a farm, right that 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: that was kind of a new a new thing for 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: you when you moved there originally. 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, in a way. I mean I grew up in Iowa. 56 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: There was a cornfield in my backyard. I lived in 57 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: a really small town, like three hundred and fifty people, 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: so definitely in an agricultural type setting. But actually living 59 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: on a farm where in a county where pigs outnumber 60 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: people by a significant margin, where rush hour, you know, 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: traffic is like the cow the neighbors cows got out 62 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: and are blocking traffic kind of a thing. I mean, 63 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: it's different, it's different, but it's really lovely. I love it. 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: That's so great. That's so great. So I want to 65 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: just jump straight in to your book. 66 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to hold it up for those that are 67 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: watching on YouTube with us. This is how to love 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: your morning's begen producely and you begin the book by 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: saying that everyone is a morning person, and you say, 70 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: it's your job to convince us of that. 71 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: So tell us what you mean by that. 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: And for the person that immediately goes there's no way, 73 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: what does that mean? 74 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it started that. I don't know that I 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: would have called myself a morning person before I wrote 76 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: the book, because I thought that a morning person was 77 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: somebody that got up at five am, maybe went to 78 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: the gym for an hour, came home, had artisan toast 79 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: points and a fancy latte, and then you know, exegy 80 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: the whole book of Leviticus, then iron the bed sheets, 81 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff before eight am. And I'm like, well, 82 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: that's what a morning person is. That's not me, because 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: like I wake up like with my hair sticking out 84 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: in ten different directions and making a beeline for the 85 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: espresso machine. So but what I learned is, first of all, 86 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: I studied all two hundred plus mornings mentioned in the scriptures. 87 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: There are more than two hundred plus, that's pretty cool. 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: And I learned from that study that God is a 89 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: morning person, and because we are made in His image, 90 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: that we are mourning people too. It is not a 91 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: clock thing. It's a God thing. My definition for a 92 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: morning person is something along the lines of, you know, 93 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: it's not about when you wake up, but it's how 94 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: you wake up. It's how you show up in the 95 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: world and growing up, raising the kids here on the farm. 96 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: We took seriously this idea that God's mercies are new 97 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: every morning, that he was telling the truth when he 98 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: said I'm going to send you brand new mercies every morning. 99 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: We took seriously Psalm thirty, verse five that says that 100 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: weep being may last for the night, but joy comes 101 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: in the morning. We were I was kind of about 102 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: this idea that everything will be better in the morning, 103 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: and I wanted to this home to be a place 104 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: of hope and peace and joy, that we would embody 105 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: the ethic of Christ as we stepped out into the world, 106 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: that we would be that to each other. I wanted 107 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: us to reflect the morningness of God. God. The very 108 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: first thing that God created on this earth was a 109 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: morning when he said, let there be light. And then 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: he provides for us in the morning. I mean clear 111 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: back to the Israelites wandering around and they're hungry, and 112 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: so he brings breakfast on the ground. He's like you're 113 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: signing up for you and you know there's hard mornings. 114 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: Jesus crucifixion is the hardest moment in the morning in 115 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: the history of our world. At nine am that morning, 116 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: he was crucified. And you know, I imagine sometimes if God 117 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: would have whispered in the ears of the disciples, maybe 118 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: he would have said something like everything will be better 119 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: in the morning. The morning, because on Sunday morning, Jesus, 120 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: the ultimate morning person, wrecked his own funeral. And you know, 121 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: then we get all the way to revelation and we 122 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: are reintroduced to Jesus as the bright and morning morning sun. Yeah. Wow, 123 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: So that gives me chills just hearing all of that. 124 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: And I'm big and. 125 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: Beautiful picture overarching story of scripture, and I just love 126 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: that that you say that that God is a mourning person. 127 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: And if we believe we're made in his image, then 128 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: we are too. And it's almost like if we think 129 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: we're not, we're almost in opposite. It's like an opposition 130 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: to his his image and becoming like him, right, And 131 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: I think about, you know, just the process of sanctification 132 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: of becoming more like God. I've never thought about that 133 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: in terms of being a mourning person. Yeah, and so 134 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: that's such a lovely, such a lovely way to think 135 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: about it. And you get very extremely practical in your book, Jennifer, 136 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: about how we do that, how we kind of come 137 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: around that, and you talk about the idea of a 138 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: mourning ritual. 139 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: So talk to us a little bit about that. 140 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: What does that look like for you and what could 141 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: that look like for people in different stages their life. 142 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you called it a morning ritual because 143 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: that's what I call it too. I don't call it 144 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: a morning routine because to me, a routine feels performative, 145 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: it feels routine, But a ritual evokes something very sacred 146 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: and meaningful. It feels very intentional, it feels relational. So 147 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: it starts really by how we name things. That's something 148 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: really practical that we can do, Like if we start 149 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: naming things as our morning ritual instead of our morning routine. 150 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: Somebody in a group that I'm leading right now, I'm 151 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: walking about five hundred women through how to Love Your 152 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: Morning for the month of June, and in this group, 153 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: one of the women said, I like to call it 154 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: a morning prelude, which is really beautiful like you think 155 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: about Yeah, I'm like, wow, I wish I had thought that, 156 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: go reprint the book, let's call it a prelude. I 157 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: just think that's so incredible. But I do call these 158 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: things rituals, and how we name things matters. So when 159 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: I go to get my coffee, it is this is 160 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: my morning coffee ritual. I say it out loud in 161 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: the kitchen, which probably sounds really strange to somebody, but 162 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: attached to my mourning ritual of coffee is my morning 163 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: ritual of praying for others. Right beside my coffee maker, 164 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: I have a list of people that I'm praying for 165 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: at any given on any given week. So while I'm 166 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: waiting for the coffee to brew, I am praying for 167 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: people in my life and in my church who need prayer. 168 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: So it's not just I'll pray for you and then 169 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: I forget. I get to pray for these people every 170 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: single day, and usually more than once because I'm going 171 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: back for a second cup of coffee and maybe even 172 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: a third. They're just it's just this, these simple things 173 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: that we do, and that we can over complicate and 174 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: make it out to be more. You know that it 175 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,359 Speaker 1: has to be filtered, and it has to look instagrammable 176 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: or look cool on TikTok, and you know there has 177 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: to be harp music playing somewhere in the background, some 178 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: kind of morning that would make angels weep. Right, But 179 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: mine is like my prayer time, at least that part 180 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: of my prayer time of praying for others is on 181 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: the back of a church bulletin in mysty little handwriting. 182 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: And then the next habit that I have in the 183 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: morning after my coffee ritual, my praying for other's ritual 184 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: is my morning time where I sit down with my 185 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: Bible and right now my Bible recap. I'm going through 186 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: the Bible recap and my dinner journal. Yeah. It's great. Yeah, 187 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: and I have more time now as an empty nester. 188 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: My morning time looks a lot different than it did 189 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: when I was a young mom. And I since probably 190 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot of younger moms are listening like that sounds nice, Jennifer. 191 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: You can have your nice little coffee ritual and your 192 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: nice little morning time where my kids are wrestling in 193 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: the living room. Right, But I had that too, and 194 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: my morning time, my morning time with God didn't look 195 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: the same then as it does now. It shifts the seasons, 196 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: but I still made time for God and I invite 197 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: my children into it. They had little prayer journals, little spiral, 198 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: bread bound prayer journals that they had before they could 199 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: even write written words. They used to draw their prayers. 200 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: I love that. You know, mommy is studying Psalm one 201 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: nineteen today and this is but kind of what it's about. 202 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Why don't you draw me a picture of that in 203 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: your prayer journal. So I've got these little journals that 204 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: they and my girls tell me this is something that 205 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: they remember and that helped them establish their own morning 206 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: time with God. When they got older, they wrote out 207 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: the prayers we remember or the verses. They wrote their 208 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: prayers in journals. So all of these are practical things, 209 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: and I think it's important for women to pick out 210 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: what works for them and in their season of life 211 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: and their stage of life and build on it from there. Right. 212 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: And I'm just thinking about my morning this morning, Jennifer. Yes, 213 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: I have a five month old and a four year 214 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: old and we're kind of in our summer routine, so 215 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: we're going to school a little bit later in the 216 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: day and different things. And so they were both still 217 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: asleep now the baby had been up in the night 218 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: because he was not feeling great, so he had already 219 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: been up and ate but went back to sleep. And 220 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: so I found myself with like a quiet morning, and 221 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: I grabbed my prayer journal and I went out on 222 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: my side porch, and I'm in Mississippi, and it's already 223 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: getting very hot in Mississippi, and so was able it 224 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: was a little breeze this morning. Flipped my little fan 225 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: on out there, and was able to kind of have 226 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: part of the routine or ritual that I used to 227 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: really cherish, right, Yeah, that I don't have every day 228 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: right now, right, I'm right now a lot of my 229 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing Bible recap. When I nurse my baby in 230 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: the morning, I put my phone out and I look 231 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: at the Bible and it reads the Bible to me 232 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: as I am I am nursing, and then I just 233 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: pray out loud. Where I usually am a journaler of 234 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: my prayers. It's like a lot to be nursing a 235 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: baby and trying to write in journal at the same time. 236 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: So I've just been praying my prayers out loud. 237 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: So this morning looked a little bit different, and so 238 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: I just like jump on the chance to get to 239 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: have that time outside, and it was so good for 240 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: my soul just to be able to write and process that. 241 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: And so I think, you know, giving us grace too, 242 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 2: for we want to keep as many things consistent as 243 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: we can in our mornings. But also the flexibility of 244 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: like maybe it doesn't always look the same, but you 245 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: can jump on it when you can, Like, don't let 246 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: because yesterday didn't look like that keep you from letting 247 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: today look like that. 248 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: Does that kind of that is so good? One makes sense. 249 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: I know that I read a whole book about morning 250 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: and about how to have grace towards your mornings and 251 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: all these you know, I say over and over again, 252 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, start small, or it's okay if it's small. 253 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: But I find myself falling into this trap of if 254 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't look a certain way, it somehow doesn't count, 255 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: and then maybe I'll just skip it all together, which 256 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: is terrible. How on those days when I skip it 257 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: all together, it's not pretty. I can tell the difference 258 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: between when I've followed through on a morning ritual and 259 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: that other times when I've just like jumped headlong into 260 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: the day. It's just not pretty. Like for me, the 261 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: Bible recap is it's it's intense, like I have the 262 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: actual physical book and I have the actual physical Bible, 263 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: so it's a good like on the short side of 264 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: things is fifteen minutes and that you know, usually it's longer. 265 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, I'm journaling prayers, so 266 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: I love it. I love that morning time. But if 267 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: I can't do it, then I'm somehow like, oh I've failed. 268 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: It's like as if God is like keeping giving out 269 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: report cards or gold stars for our spiritual performance. So 270 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: what I'm learning even as I go along, is like 271 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: sometimes small prayers like starting my day the way Mother 272 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: Teresa said to start the day, good morning Jesus and 273 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: saying out loud, I give this day to you. It's 274 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: going to be crazy to date God, and I'm so 275 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: glad that you are with me and that you are 276 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: beneath me, and then you go before me and you 277 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: go behind me. God, I need you today. And maybe 278 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: instead of reading, you know, three chapters of the Bible, 279 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to meditate on a verse or a passage. 280 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: You know. It's I think we just on those days 281 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: when it just feels like total chaos, just shrink it 282 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: down and know that you know God is with you. 283 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: It's not a box to be ticked off. It's just 284 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: a way to live and make Him our first intention 285 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: and our first focus. Oh that's so good. 286 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: And in full transparency, you and I are probably not 287 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: on the same day on the Bible recap because I 288 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: have been doing it. I started not this January, but 289 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: January twenty twenty five, and I'm now in like the 290 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: New Testament, finishing up the New Testament. Right, So it 291 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: looked it was a longer process for me than like 292 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: what it's supposed to be on paper. And you know, 293 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: many times I was kind of like, Okay, maybe I 294 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: should just like stop and start. 295 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: Something else or whatever. 296 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: Right, But just giving myself grace in that has been 297 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: a real gift, And like I described, when I'm reading 298 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: your book, Jennifer, I feel like it's an exhale for myself, 299 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: like you said, it really is. I love to hear 300 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: you say you desired it to bring. 301 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: Grace into our mornings. 302 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: And that's what I feel when I read your words. 303 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: But I do feel also an invitation to step into 304 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: more right, not more as in like heavier more, but 305 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: just more more of more intentionality more purpose, and then 306 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: you you even write more joy, right, that this brings 307 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: us more joy. So talk to us a little bit 308 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: about some of the things that you outline in the 309 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: book that are are really practical for kind of stepping 310 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: into this morning idea. 311 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really glad you talked about this, and I'm 312 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: going to do a thirty thousand foot view first of all, 313 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: because it's so important for us to start with intentionality. 314 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: It's so important to meet with God at the front 315 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: of our day because then the rest of your day 316 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: actually has to level up to meet God. So that 317 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: that's to say, you have this incredible opportunity every single 318 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: morning to set your daily intentions and your expectations around 319 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: the heart of God. And then for the remainder of 320 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: your day, the best things that happen are made even 321 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: better because you had developed an awareness first thing in 322 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: the morning that any blessings that come your way later 323 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: in the day, they aren't by chance, they're by God. 324 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: They're from God. And then if the worst things happen 325 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: in a day, you have already assured yourself of God's 326 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: presence and his protection and his provision and his promise promises. 327 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: You know, whatever comes your way. So how this looks 328 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: out looks practically is going to depend greatly on your 329 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: life season, what else you have going on, what you're 330 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: waking up to. That's why at the back of the book, 331 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: I have guides for women in nearly so good. These 332 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: guides are so good. Yeah, college girls guide, working professionals guide, 333 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: like a non mom one, and there's yeah like stay 334 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: at home mom's office moms. So people who are working 335 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: outside the home for a good part of the week 336 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: the work week, empty nesters, retirees, widows, so that the 337 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: practical things you do are really going to vary. When 338 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: I started to write this book, I thought, all right, God, 339 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: let's come up with the one tried and true method 340 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: that you wake up at a certain time and you 341 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: do a certain set of things. But it became really 342 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: clear early on that that was not going to work 343 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: because we're two different There's a thousand different ways to 344 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 1: approach this. So I actually set the book up like this. 345 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 1: You create a customizable morning watch. Well, you start with 346 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: what your mourning archetype is, which we can get into 347 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: that if you'd like what that means, Yeah, and then 348 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: you start to add in the elements so every morning, 349 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: you should be kind of practicing the mourning ritual of Jesus, 350 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: and that is he has a morning ritual. It doesn't 351 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: say it exactly like that in the Bible, but he 352 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: would have prayed the Shamah every morning because that's what 353 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: Jews had been doing way before he walked this earth. 354 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: So every morning they pray the Shamah. And it's essentially 355 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: to love the Lord your God with all of your heart's, soul, mind, 356 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: and strength. He would have heard that since he was 357 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: a baby. He would have memorized it as a young boy. 358 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: He said it into his adulthood. So I'm like, what 359 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: it would it be like for us to love the 360 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: Lord our God with all of our heart and our 361 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: soul every morning, with all of our mind and with 362 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: all of our strength, in a way that we would 363 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: then love God with all of our mourning and really 364 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: with all of our day. So there's a lot of 365 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: heart and soul practical steps that a person can take. 366 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: The ways to love the Lord with your heart and soul. 367 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: They're practical things like obviously fighting time for prayer, or 368 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: maybe I've got some different reading plans in there for 369 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: reading through particular psalms or a particular gospel. It could 370 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: be simple journaling. It could be writing your daily intentions, 371 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: it could be keeping a gratitude list. It really just 372 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: depends on how you personally can love the Lord your 373 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: God with all of your heart and soul. And then 374 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: your mind. There's a lot of practices in there about 375 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: like how to clear your mind of the clutter and 376 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: the worry so that you can have the mind of 377 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Christ instead of the mind of you know, kind of 378 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: chaos and rushing. And then finally you add in elements 379 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: of how to love the Lord your God with all 380 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: of your strength. And I know that in this Jesus 381 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: is speaking of a sort of inner strength. But also 382 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: I think it's important to remember that Jesus had a 383 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: human body and we are embodied creatures. So what does 384 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: it look like to have body strength. It looks like 385 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: getting the sleep that we need at night, getting to 386 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: bed on time. It looks like taking care of our 387 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: bodies by moving them maybe a little bit in the morning, 388 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: by eating right. I'm now in my fifties, so I'm 389 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: like on a major protein kick, and I'm also all 390 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: about lifting heavy things. That doesn't always happen in the morning. 391 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes it happens in the afternoon. But I think it's 392 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: just important to think through like what does it look 393 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: like to love God with this temple, with this body? 394 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: I love that. 395 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 2: And even what you said about just looking at mornings 396 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: in scripture and when you said that God provided them 397 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: breakfast right the man I came in the morning, like 398 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: how many mornings do I skip breakfast? And it's like, wow, 399 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm nursing right now, and so it's like, 400 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: you know, I need that nourishment to care for my 401 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: family in the season that we're in, but I often 402 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: don't do that because I'm in a hurry or in 403 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: a rush. 404 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: And so just like that simple thing of like just 405 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: fuel your. 406 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: Body in the morning so that you're not grouchy and 407 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: you're not a short tipper and you can think clearly 408 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: and you have. 409 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: The things you need to function in the day. Starting 410 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: at the night before is really helpful if that's an 411 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: issue for you or for anybody listening. Like a lot 412 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: of women that are in your stage of life talk 413 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: about having all the breakfast, like at least knowing what's 414 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: going to be had, or making overnight oats the night before. 415 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: Some of the working moms that worked, like in an office, 416 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: they take a bin of stuff to the office refrigerator 417 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the week, so they don't have 418 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: time for breakfast at homes, but when they get to work, 419 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: they've already had their like a protein shape, They've got 420 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: like some yogurts, some boiled eggs, different things like that 421 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: that is sitting in a bin at the office so 422 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: that they're not skipping breakfast. Like these things that we 423 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: do to prepare the night before or the you know, 424 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: early on, or you know, setting things out if you can, 425 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: setting your Bible out, setting your tools out, setting your 426 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: workout shoes out, anything like that really helps, really helps 427 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: your morning. I love this. 428 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: So in the morning's really kind of starting that night before. 429 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: That's a really that's a really good way to think 430 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 2: about it. So at the end of each of your chapters, Jennifer, 431 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: you share like a couple of elements and some liturgies 432 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: Mourning Mana, which I love. Just talk to us a 433 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: little bit about those components and why you included them. 434 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Mourning Mana I thought a lot about. Mana 435 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: was one of the first stories that I really spent 436 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: some time with. And how God provides each and every 437 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: day just exactly what we need. And at the end 438 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: of each chapter, I'm like, what do I really want people? God? 439 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: What do you really want people to know? What is 440 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: a bit of morning mana? If they don't remember anything 441 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: else in this chapter, what can you provide for them 442 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: this morning in the form of word mana. So, for instance, 443 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: the morning mana of the very first chapter is God 444 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: is a morning person, and because I am created in 445 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: His image, I am one too. So each one is 446 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: just kind of like a one to two sentence summary 447 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: of the essence of each of the chapters. Another one 448 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: is my mourning is worthy of something more than a routine. 449 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: It is a ritual, sacred and significant, and it will 450 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: become a way I wake up with hope and wake 451 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: up with God. And then the liturgies are really just 452 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: a way to sit with God as your day begins. 453 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: These can be read silently or a loud out loud. 454 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: And if you can't find anything else to do in 455 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: the book, I like to say, just pray a morning 456 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: liturgy during the first minutes of your day, right if 457 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: you can't do any of the other things that are mentioned, 458 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: like pray a prayer like that's the most important thing 459 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: that we can do. Yeah. 460 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: So, like step one is prayer, Like, if we don't 461 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: do anything else, let's see your prayer. And you make 462 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: it so easy to just if you have Jennifer's book 463 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: sitting on your nightst or sitting on your coffee table 464 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: or sitting by your coffee pot, you can open it 465 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: up and just pray a morning liturgy and borrow her 466 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: words and pray. 467 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: Then they're readed in scripture and. 468 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: It is so that's such an easy step for us 469 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: to take. 470 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: I do. 471 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: If I'm looking at our time, I do think we 472 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: have time to get into the morning archetypes. I would 473 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: like to do that if you want to kind of 474 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: explain that to us, because I imagine people are hearing 475 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: that and. 476 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: Going like, what is that? 477 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: Give us a little glimpse into that, where that come from, 478 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: and what does it mean? 479 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, when I was interviewing hundreds of women for 480 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: this book and exploring what their mornings looked like, I 481 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: quickly realized that there were a lot of different reasons 482 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: why people were excited to get up and reasons why 483 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: they weren't excited to get up, sort of kind of 484 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: morning motivations that thing they look forward to. And I 485 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: came up with four different morning archetypes. This is a 486 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: fancy word for personalities. They are the daybreakdoer, the morning mover, 487 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: the social sea, and the meditative mind. So the daybreakdoer 488 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: is somebody who really is excited about, like their work, 489 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: the things that they get to accomplish in a day. 490 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: They might say I'm most productive right away in the morning. 491 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: So for a daybreakdoer, it doesn't mean that they just 492 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: jump right into their work, but they might like kind 493 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: of review their to do list right away, write down 494 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: a few things, and then right next to it, say God, 495 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: help me with my intentions for this day, not just 496 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: my to do list, but my intentions list, and then, 497 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: you know, give the day to the Lord, give the 498 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: work to the Lord. Then you sit down and have 499 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: like some quiet time with Jesus. It's not in place 500 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: of it. It's just an acknowledgment of who you are, 501 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: so you don't have to feel guilty if you just 502 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: need to wrap your mind around a few things in 503 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: the morning. The second type morning mover. This is a 504 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: person who's really gets their mood and their metabolism charged 505 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: up right away in the morning. I'm a morning mover. 506 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: Those are my favorite mornings. When I get into the 507 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: workout and then I come back home and I do 508 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: my quiet time after that, it's just like my favorite day. 509 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm off to a great start. 510 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: Social seekers are people who really craved connection right away 511 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: in the morning. So if you have a child who 512 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: comes bounding out of their bedroom and they've had all 513 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: these stories pent up inside of them for an intolerable 514 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: number of hours, you probably have on your hands a 515 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: little social seeker. A lot of women who are either 516 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: divorced or widowed often discover that they were social seekers 517 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: because they might have had a morning routine that you know, 518 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: involved a significant other spouse. And then the meditative mind 519 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: is somebody who really is like the first thing is 520 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: Bible reading, having a space of quiet, just to get 521 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: your piece God's peace and hope over you through the scriptures. 522 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: All of them are a great way to start the day. Obviously, 523 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: we don't want anybody skip in prayer, but we also 524 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: don't want like a meditative mind just leaving God in 525 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: the quiet time chair and then moving on with the day. 526 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: He's to be a part of everything, like it's not 527 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: just that moment, that ten minutes, that five minutes, that 528 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: twenty minutes, whatever it is, it's meant to prepare us 529 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: for the day ahead, for the rest of the day. 530 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: That's really really good. 531 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: Imagine as people are listening, they're like kind of, you know, 532 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: thinking of what one they might more relate to or 533 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: identify with. And you know, something that you talk about 534 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: in your book that also stands out to me and 535 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: Jennifer is when the day starts, is not the most 536 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: important thing about the morning. And I have witnessed this 537 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: with my husband, really an internal struggle with him. He 538 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: is in medical training and so he's been in medical 539 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: training for ten years now. He's specialty specialties specially, so 540 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: he's still like wrapping up his training and so with 541 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: that comes a lot of like he might have a 542 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: whole night of month, a month of night shifts, or 543 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: he might have two days of night shifts and then 544 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: have to switch back today's shift immediately, and there's a 545 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: lot of challenges. And he has really struggled with how 546 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: to connect with God in those different seasons, because I 547 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: think he has an idea in his head of what 548 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: he wants that time to look like and when it 549 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: doesn't look like that. I think he oftentimes is just 550 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: like Okay, I just can't access that today, or he's 551 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: so exhausted. It's I don't even know that he has 552 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: like the brain ability to really lean into that. And 553 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: so when I was reading what you were writing about that, 554 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: I was truly thinking about him. And I know there 555 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: are so many people who are listening that may be 556 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 2: in similar situations, you know, different things that impact the 557 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: way that you're morning is started. And maybe that's in 558 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: a season, maybe it's a long term thing for people, 559 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: and maybe your caregiving to somebody and your first moments 560 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: of the day are caring for whoever you're caring for. 561 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: So just talk a. 562 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: Little bit about like how do you what does it 563 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: look like when you have those challenges to the morning. 564 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: And this is one of those graces I feel like 565 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: you extend through the book, is that the timing is 566 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: in as much the point. 567 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: So let's go into a little bit more about Absolutely 568 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: I said it at the beginning that it bears repeating 569 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: that being a morning person is not a clock thing. 570 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: It's a god thing. So it's not somebody else's morning, 571 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: it's not some ideal morning, it's not some influencers morning. 572 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: It's your morning, even if your morning starts at like 573 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: seven pm, you know, right, So it's like, Okay, I'm 574 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: going to start my day with God, and just in 575 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: the same way that the house might be chaotic in 576 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: the morning when you make up, it might be a 577 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 1: little chaotic when when your husband wakes up to like 578 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: depending on what it is. But I think the first 579 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: thing that I really want to give grace on for 580 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: your husband and for anybody else is sleep is really important. 581 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: I want my doctors to insurgents to have to be 582 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: well rested, right, and I want my I want all 583 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: these moms to be well rested. That is the biggest 584 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: obstacle to a a mourning is is uh is the 585 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: lack of sleep? In the In the scriptures, it says 586 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: I think it's Psalm twenty seven. I can't remember exactly, 587 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: but it said God. It says God grants sleep to 588 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: those he loves, and that doesn't mean that he doesn't 589 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: love you. If sleep is hard, what is in the middle, Yeah, 590 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: but what it is saying to us is that we 591 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: are made for to have rest like that is one 592 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: of his us. Yes, he I mean Jesus took nap 593 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: in a boat like during our crisis. Like it's okay, 594 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: I think that you know we need we need to 595 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: get the rest, we need to get to bed on time. 596 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: We need to stop participating in revenge bedtime procrastination, which 597 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: is a fancy term that means that I'm going to 598 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: have my mee time tonight. I'm going to scroll a 599 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: little bit, I'm going to watch one more Netflix show, 600 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're an hour over or 601 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, you're up an hour later than you should 602 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: be to get required sleep for your body. So make 603 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: your meee time like at in the morning, like I'm 604 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: going to go to bed on time, instead of making 605 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: revenge bedtime procrastination and have all this mee time at 606 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: the end of the day, like make it at the 607 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: beginning with like this really cool time with God. And yeah, 608 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: sometimes it might mean that the kids are up earlier 609 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: or something like that, but whatever, the start of your 610 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: day is, decide what works for you, what can help 611 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: you to set your expectations and intentions around the heart 612 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: of God. What can you do, whether that is five 613 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: minutes of prayer, whether that's memorizing a verse together all 614 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: week long, as a family. For our part in this home, 615 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: we prayed every single morning out loud with the kids, 616 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: every single morning. It didn't matter what how chaotic it was. 617 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes it meant that we were praying in the car 618 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: on the way to the bus stop, and we were 619 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: praying about the things that the girls needed. But just 620 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: make that your your thing. Like, if you're listening right 621 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: now and you just feel like it's chaotic, try that 622 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: for a week and just see what happens. Like even 623 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: if your kids are like, gosh, mom, you're weird. I mean, 624 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: you never prayed out loud with me before. Just start 625 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: praying out loud with your kids and see what happens. 626 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so good. I have a four year old. 627 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: She's tiny, but she still knows. I guess this maybe 628 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: is a morning ritual for us, Jennifer, I wouldn't have 629 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: called it this before. 630 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: You're giving me language to some of our moments. 631 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: But we have a point that we we make a 632 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: turn in our little carpool drop offline off of a 633 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: side road and onto the main road of her school. 634 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: And when we hit this and we turn and we 635 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: pass this house that has a certain flag that she 636 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: likes or whatever, outdoor decoration that she thinks it's cute. 637 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: She knows that that's when we start our prayer, Like 638 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: that's when we that's when we begin to pray. And 639 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: so I'll either say, you know, Josie, what do we 640 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: want to pray about today? 641 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: Or what would you like to pray for today? 642 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: Or she'll just start praying some mornings because it's become 643 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: a little habit. 644 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: And that's so simple. I mean, it's just so simple. 645 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: I didn't do anything fancy, right, I just started to 646 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: ask you a question when we hit a certain point 647 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: in our drive to school, and so on the mornings 648 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: that we don't go to school, I kind of miss that, right, 649 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: And so I told her last week she was home 650 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: with me all week, and I said, we haven't done 651 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: our morning prayers this week because we haven't been going 652 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: on our normal little carpool turn So, you know, just 653 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: little bitty simple things like you said, I think we 654 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: can so overcomplicate it and feel so much guilt around 655 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: it not looking a certain way, but just these little 656 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: moments of connecting with God, connecting our kids to God, 657 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: modeling that for them. 658 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: He set them up. And that's so I mean, you're 659 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: as moms. We have this wonderful opportunity to not only 660 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: gain something inside for us, but to model what it 661 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 1: looks like to have a morning where you seek God first. 662 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: Sometimes I remember I was doing I would be doing 663 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: Bible study or those little prayer you know, journals that 664 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 1: I was talking about with the girls, or this daily 665 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: prayer thing that we always always did, and I overlooked 666 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: it in the same way that you did. Like, I 667 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: didn't think it was that big of a deal. But 668 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: the girl, my girls are the one that said, Mom, 669 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: you should write a book about mornings. It wasn't my idea. 670 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it was God's idea, but it was the 671 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: girls are the ones that said, I'm like, what do 672 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: I have to say about mornings? And they're like, Mom, 673 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: think about all those things that we did. And then 674 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: I come to find out those little journals made such 675 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: a difference in their lives or in times of crisis. Now, 676 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: as an empty nester, I will lean on something that 677 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: I deposited into my mind years and years and years 678 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: ago when the girls were little, and I'm like, wow, 679 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: I didn't think anything was really taking you know, like 680 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: it was really working. Is this quiet time that is 681 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: anything but quiet is it even working? Yeah, it is 682 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: because now I remember, oh yeah, back in twenty three, 683 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: this is a verse that that really meant something to me, 684 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: and God, I need that to be real in my 685 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: life right now. It I mean, it's just Instagram and TikTok. 686 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: I've ruined it for us because we think it looks 687 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: something like something that's straight out of a magazine, and 688 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, right, I love that you bring that up. 689 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: What you stored many years ago is becoming the fruit 690 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: I like to talk about. When Jesus talks about the 691 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: Holy Spirit, he describes him as the reminder that he's 692 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 2: going to help us bring to remembrance the things that 693 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: I have spoken to you, is what Jesus how He 694 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: tells us. 695 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 1: To expect the Holy Spirit to work. 696 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 2: So when you remember something or recall something that you 697 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: stored in two thousand and three in your brain, that's 698 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit. He's bringing that to mind. And now 699 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 2: he absolutely can bring anything to our mind. But Jesus 700 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: tells us specifically, he's going to bring to mind the 701 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: things that I have said, which is his word that 702 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: we are hiding in our heart. And so it's a 703 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 2: little hard for him to bring to remembrance something that 704 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: we have not put there. And so I think that's 705 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 2: such a practical way of going. You know, I don't 706 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 2: know when I'm going to need this first, but it 707 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: gives much purpose to what we are doing and what 708 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 2: we are modeling for our children. And we have no 709 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: idea how the Holy Spirit is going to use that 710 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: in our lives, and that's just part of the joy 711 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: of getting to follow him and creating these rituals. Then 712 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 2: He's going to use that to encourage us, to convict us, 713 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: to teach us in the moments that we need it 714 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: in our lives. 715 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: Wow, that is a word. I've just been to church. 716 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: I love that. Thank you. We're where is that in 717 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: the Bible? Like you just brought it up in such 718 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: a way that it just that verse hit me, like 719 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: in a whole fresh way. I'm just like stunned. And 720 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: John fourteen, Yeah, John fifteen all right in there. I mean, 721 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: I think it's I haven't actually thought of the verse 722 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: in that way. And isn't that the power of the scriptures. 723 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: You can have something that you've read again and again 724 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: and again, and you've thought about it a certain way 725 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: for a certain group of people in a certain time 726 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: and then you say that to me and I'm like, yes, girl, 727 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, the Lord said it. 728 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: To me, So I can't take any credit for it. 729 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 2: I feel like he really revealed that to me and 730 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: something that I was studying and working on, and it's just, 731 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 2: you know, it just really has changed the way that 732 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 2: I kind of look at it. 733 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: And so it so lines up with what you what 734 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: you talk about. 735 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, I know we've talked a lot about 736 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: kind of practical things and we've said, you know, if 737 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 2: you could do one thing, start with prayer. That's like 738 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 2: step one in this building your morning ritual. I also 739 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: think a great step for people is to get a 740 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 2: copy of your book, Jennifer. 741 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: Because you lay out all this step so easily. 742 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 2: So tell us where can we connect with you, Where 743 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 2: can we find you, and how can people get well. 744 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: You can connect with me on Instagram or Facebook at 745 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: Jennifer Dukeslee And that's also the name of my website, 746 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: Jenniferdukesley dot com. But if you're looking in particular for 747 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: how to Love your morning, you can go to how 748 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 1: to Love your Morning dot com. You can also put 749 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: slash resources and sign up and that's where you can 750 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: take the quiz to see what your morning archetype is. 751 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: I've got printable I've got printable quiet time templates. I've 752 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: got Bible study videos, all kinds of stuff that you 753 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: can get for free on my website. 754 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 2: Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful, Well, Jennifer, it has been such a 755 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: joy to get to visit with you today. Would you 756 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: do us the honor of praying for our listeners as 757 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 2: we close out our time? 758 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Dear God, thank you so much for this morning. 759 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: Every single morning, your mercies are new. That's your promise 760 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: in the scriptures, and it's true. I mean sure, as 761 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: the sun rises you are bringing us new mercies, not 762 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: leftover mercies, not recycled mercies, not somebody else's mercies. These 763 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: are fresh mercies every morning. We thank you for that, 764 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: and we trust that you were telling the truth when 765 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: you wrote that into the Good Book. Lord. I pray 766 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: for anybody right now that's just had a whole series 767 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: of hard mornings, or maybe today they just were overwhelmed 768 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 1: by something that happened in their life. It's not too 769 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: late in the day, whenever it is to just lip 770 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: to put our hands up to God and just say 771 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: I give this to you. Be with me, bring to 772 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: remembrance the things that you have taught me in the past. God, 773 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: you know just that we would pray and come to 774 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: you with that heart of X. And finally, Lord, I 775 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: pray that. 776 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: We would come to love you with all of our heart, 777 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 3: with all of our soul, with all of our mind, 778 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,479 Speaker 3: with all of our strength, and God, that we would 779 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 3: love you with all of our mourning and Jesus name. 780 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: Amen. 781 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 2: Friend, it is not too late to join us for 782 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: our summer book club featuring the book When Mothering Is 783 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: Hard and No One Sees by my friend Selene Roberts. 784 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 2: It's happening now through the end of July, and we 785 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: want you to join us. Head to the homepage of 786 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 2: our website, Million Praying Moms dot com to find out 787 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: more and use the code book Club twenty for twenty 788 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: percent off your order from our mom shop. Until next time, Friends, 789 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 2: the Lord bless you and keep you. Make His face 790 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 2: shine upon you and be gracious to you. May the 791 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: Lord look with favor on you and give you peace.