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Speaker 1: this is John. As you've probably heard by now after

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Speaker 1: 10 years of Talk About That episodes airing most every week,

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Speaker 1: Johnny and I have hit an especially busy season in

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Speaker 1: of Talk About That. These are some of our most

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Speaker 2: Today on Talk About That, John ponders whether anyone hate

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Speaker 2: listens to the show and makes sermon illustrations out of

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Speaker 2: old cartoons. Meanwhile, I tell you why the first cell

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Speaker 2: what I learned from Jim Carrey about being a comedian.

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Speaker 2: Plus a conversation about human nature, humility, and why main

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Speaker 2: character energy isn't the flex you think it is. Today's

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Speaker 2: fruit punch, but also a pound of salt. But first,

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Speaker 2: It's another episode of Talk About That. We're here, man.

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Speaker 2: We can't be stopped. Many have tried. A few have succeeded.

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Speaker 2: Do you think we have enemies?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 2: I will say this. This stage of life.

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Speaker 2: The biggest surprise. Well, there's a lot of surprises.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 2: But I am shocked that I have enemies. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I never had enemies as a young man.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the podcast itself has enemies? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where all they're coming from. It would

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Speaker 2: explain a lot. You know? If you're like, oh, that's

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Speaker 2: what's going on. The podcast is doing well, actually. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Because we have friends, John. Listen. I wonder if we

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Speaker 2: I wonder if we have any friends. Yeah. Who are

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Speaker 2: really frenemies. That they listen. Right.

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Speaker 1: But like, to be a little bit like, yeah, these jerks.

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Speaker 2: They hate watch. Yeah. They hate listen. Do you do

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Speaker 2: I don't love it about myself, but probably there's probably

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Speaker 2: I don't do that a lot.

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Speaker 1: Occasionally there's a guy we've referenced before. Who's like all

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That's his whole thing.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he may have other things he wants,

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Speaker 2: And he's like, he wants you to watch it and

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Speaker 1: A guy just think, he's crazy, man.

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Speaker 2: He's crazy. And I'm like, every time we watch it,

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Speaker 2: we just told him to do it again. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: Guys, feed this beast, though. Johnny, if they wanted to

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Speaker 2: feed the beast. Go to feedthebeast.com. I don't know where

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Speaker 2: Go to talkaboutthatpodcast.com. 300 plus archived episodes, John.

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Speaker 1: 350 plus.

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Speaker 1: That's a long time for two shows.

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Speaker 2: This week, Vincent Goth is available at Walmart for 50% off.

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Speaker 2: It's a streaming channel for goth people. Anyway, don't invade us,

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Speaker 2: This is when he was being paid $ 20, 000 an hour

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Speaker 2: learned about life, I learned.

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Speaker 1: From the Roadrunner.

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Speaker 2: The Roadrunner's Guide to Business Success. He paid all this

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Speaker 2: money by corporate executives. They're writing it all down. These

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Speaker 2: So I'm not wrong. This is the thing.

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Speaker 1: You're correct. Well, what it has said was.

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Speaker 2: Oh, boy. They weren't officially published.

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Speaker 1: Later shared them as a set of internal creative guidelines

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Speaker 2: It's a lot. Which one of us do you think

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Speaker 2: is the coyote and which one do you think is...

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Speaker 1: I'll always get away.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been like one bite. The

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Speaker 1: And then number nine, the coyote is always more humiliated

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Speaker 2: He did Bugs Bunny, Porky Pig, Tweety, Sylvester, Yosemite, Sam.

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Speaker 2: You know what else, John? What's that? I have no

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Speaker 1: When did he do.

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Speaker 1: What was the other one I was just thinking of?

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Speaker 2: Probably the best movie he ever did was Eternal Sunshine

440
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Speaker 2: of the Spotless Mind. He was fully in his dramatic arc.

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Speaker 2: It's a really well done... It's got elements of time travel,

442
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Speaker 2: but it's a drama. But it's also got some comedic elements. Oh,

443
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Speaker 2: Bruce Almighty. Bruce Almighty's great. That's kind of the perfect blend.

444
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Speaker 2: Because it's a great script. He got to really do

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Speaker 2: some acting in it that was real. He had a

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Speaker 2: good co-star. But he got to be silly, too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You had Morgan Freeman playing God. I mean, that's a

449
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Speaker 2: great concept.

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Speaker 1: I really thought that movie, when it came out, was

451
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Speaker 1: going to... Hear me, audience. But just the idea of it...

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Speaker 1: I remember watching the trailer and being like, oh my gosh,

453
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Speaker 1: this is the most sacrilegious thing ever. But.

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Speaker 1: And it is, it's not, it's not meant to be theology.

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Speaker 2: Right. Right. I mean, I think we could be okay

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Speaker 2: with that.

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Speaker 1: Like this is not meant to be, this is like

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Speaker 1: someone created an alternate universe in which this thing happens.

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Speaker 1: It's not like, don't take any real cues about who

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Speaker 1: God is from it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I will say some of the parts of it

463
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Speaker 1: that they revealed about, basically the point of it is,

464
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Speaker 1: is actually you couldn't be God.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: And you don't understand all that God is actually doing.

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Speaker 1: There's a mystery to it, which I thought was, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of kind of just moments in it yeah

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: When i love that it doesn't isn't there a scene

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Speaker 2: where uh he meets god and morgan freeman's like holding

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Speaker 2: a mop yeah like he's basically mopping oh yeah and

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Speaker 2: almost all the scenes he's doing he's so expecting some

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Speaker 2: guy on a throne right that's gonna be like wielding

475
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Speaker 2: you know this arrogant all-powerful being right instead it's just

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Speaker 2: this guy that looks like the janitor yeah and you

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Speaker 2: just go you never see it yeah yeah of course

478
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Speaker 2: that's what i'm saying is i'm just trying to remember

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Speaker 2: that scene specifically i remember being struck by that scene.

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Speaker 1: Well he's a homeless guy too yeah at one point

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Speaker 1: yeah um yeah it's.

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Speaker 2: Very yeah Not a sponsor, Brisbane. No, I'm not saying again, guys.

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Speaker 1: Don't pattern your life after it or anything.

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Speaker 2: It's too late. It is way too late. About that time, Johnny. Oh, wow, okay.

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Speaker 2: It's my segment. We call it They Talked About That.

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Speaker 2: See if I can do it. Just take one ear off, maybe.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little pitchy dog.

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Speaker 2: C.S.

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Speaker 1: Lewis today.

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Speaker 2: Johnny, it's always time. Always time for C.S.

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Speaker 1: Lewis.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while since we had a little Clive

494
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Speaker 2: Staples Lewis up in here.

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Speaker 1: He says, humility after the first shock is a cheerful virtue.

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Speaker 1: It is the high-minded unbeliever desperately trying in the teeth

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Speaker 1: of repeated disillusions to retain his, quote, faith in nature

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Speaker 1: who is, sorry, faith in human nature who is really sad.

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Speaker 1: Let's read that again. Humility after the first shock is

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Speaker 1: a cheerful virtue. It is the high-minded unbeliever desperately trying

501
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Speaker 1: in the teeth of repeated disillusions to retain his faith

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Speaker 1: in human nature who is really sad.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, and that kind of goes hand-in-hand with this

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Speaker 2: idea of God being the janitor and the homeless person.

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Speaker 2: This idea of what we expect true humility to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's very....

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Speaker 1: This idea of how people make sense of the world

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Speaker 1: and of difficulty. I think how much I preach now

509
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Speaker 1: on trouble. Maybe my whole life I have, but somewhere

510
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Speaker 1: in my mid-30s, I think I began to realize that

511
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Speaker 1: really the thing people are coming to church disillusioned about

512
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Speaker 1: is trouble. And that theology, however we came to it

513
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Speaker 1: or through it or are coming to it, generally deals

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Speaker 1: with our viewpoint of how God does trouble. I recently had,

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Speaker 1: I know my grandfather, my grandfather was a faith healing preacher,

516
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Speaker 1: you know, for, for his whole life. And when my

517
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Speaker 1: dad died before him, he had a legitimate crisis of faith. Sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, a legitimate, I mean, like it's so weird

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Speaker 1: being the younger two generations down, trying to comfort him

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Speaker 1: with like, Hey, Papa, you know, Just because dad died

521
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that your faith wasn't enough. Because in his mind,

522
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Speaker 1: and he had many other things about God. He believed

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Speaker 1: in his relationship with God.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying on that front. It's a formula. Right.

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Speaker 1: This trouble. And he had seen actual healings in his life.

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Speaker 1: He'd seen real miracles. And so the idea of what

527
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Speaker 1: that means about God, like what do I standardize about

528
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Speaker 1: God in my mind? What can I expect from God?

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Speaker 1: whenever you've seen God do something. And I think that

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Speaker 1: even happened during Jesus's day because he fed the 5,000

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Speaker 1: and it's such an interesting part of the, of the

532
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Speaker 1: new Testament narrative. He feeds the 5,000 and now the

533
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Speaker 1: people are just hounding him. They're following him everywhere he goes.

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Speaker 1: And he turns to them and he says, eat my

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Speaker 1: flesh and drink my blood. I mean, he's talking to

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Speaker 1: the Pharisees before that too, but he basically starts saying

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Speaker 1: really difficult things to them. And he's like, you're following

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Speaker 1: me because you want it. You want bread, right? You

539
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Speaker 1: want me to do more of the thing I did. Like,

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Speaker 1: and I think that you can't blame them for some extent,

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Speaker 1: because how do they not know?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's what Jesus does. Right.

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Speaker 1: That repeating expectation of who God is or what I do,

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Speaker 1: how God's going to interact with me when it comes

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Speaker 1: to problems or trouble or difficulties. Can I count on

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Speaker 1: God to stop problems, troubles and difficulties? Maybe not all

547
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Speaker 1: of them, but what kind can I count on?

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Speaker 2: And that's when a real.

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Speaker 1: Crisis of faith for me in the last couple of

550
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Speaker 1: years is when things happen that I specifically prayed hard

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Speaker 1: repeatedly about, please don't let this happen. Not like I

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Speaker 1: got old or something like a thing that is, it

553
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to happen. And when it does, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what was all that prayer about? Like, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: cause how many times can I tell you have answered

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Speaker 1: my prayer and I don't, I don't understand. So I

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Speaker 1: think like CS Lewis is dealing with the people who

558
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Speaker 1: were all grappling with with whether or not we should

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Speaker 1: put our faith in human nature, put our faith in

560
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Speaker 1: no faith, meaning like, oh, it's just, there's no meaning,

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Speaker 1: there's no point of praying, there's no point of asking,

562
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Speaker 1: no point of trying to avoiding, just live your life

563
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Speaker 1: because it's just going to happen as it is. Or

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Speaker 1: those who become humble. And a humility here is not just,

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Speaker 1: I think, a state of, he's not referencing just a

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Speaker 1: state of someone who appears to not be prideful, right?

567
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Speaker 1: True humility is saying, I recognize I'm not in charge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to figure it all out that I

570
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Speaker 1: serve someone who is so eternally good to me. Yet

571
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Speaker 1: there will be things he allows that I will not

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Speaker 1: understand that will feel horrible.

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Speaker 2: And it kind of humbled myself enough to go.

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Speaker 1: And even I don't like this, even the whole idea

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Speaker 1: of like, well, All things work together for good. Someday

576
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Speaker 1: you'll know because that disaster was actually for your good.

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Speaker 2: You just don't know how yet. I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: good theology.

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Speaker 1: I think that when all things work together for good,

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Speaker 1: it's really talking about the end of this age. I

581
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Speaker 1: think there are things that happen that are just tragic.

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Speaker 1: The worst thing you can ever do is, and I've

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Speaker 1: been to funerals of children or I've been in, God, man,

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Speaker 1: I went to a hospice one time for a kid

585
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Speaker 1: who was about my kid's age at the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I watched a dad laying up in the bed

588
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Speaker 1: holding his daughter. And it wrecked me on another level.

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Speaker 1: It was like watching myself. And the worst thing I

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Speaker 1: could have done has been like, now look, I don't

591
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Speaker 1: know what God's plan is, but he's going to take care.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember saying anything like that except that, man,

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Speaker 1: we love you and we're so sorry and we're praying

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Speaker 1: and anything we can do. I mean, there's nothing else

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Speaker 1: to give there that should be platitude based. because you

596
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Speaker 1: really don't know. Humility says, I don't know, but I

597
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Speaker 1: can say what's good and what's bad. I can say

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Speaker 1: what the fact that in some ways the redemptive part

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Speaker 1: of the gospel is accepting that the world is not

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Speaker 1: as it should be. That's why I need a redeemer.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I see this gospel story is larger

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Speaker 1: than just what good or what bad happens to me

603
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Speaker 1: and my family today. Now, that being said, I shouldn't

604
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Speaker 1: minimize that because I, they can destroy our lives, right?

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Speaker 2: This, this world destroys us.

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Speaker 1: And so it's just interesting for him to say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think I'd rather not be repeatedly disillusioned

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Speaker 1: and constantly trying to make some, I would say not

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Speaker 1: just faith in human nature, but faith in healing or

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Speaker 1: faith in whatever, even if it's related to religion. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think to go at some point to come to

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Speaker 1: a place where you trust the sovereignty of God or

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Speaker 1: you trust that God, I don't like this. I'm mad

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Speaker 1: at you about this yet. I will still serve you. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm there all the time, but

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Speaker 1: that's where I think I want to be. Jesus in

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Speaker 1: the garden. Take this from me. Not my will. Your

618
00:28:17,831 --> 00:28:19,831
Speaker 1: will be done is a tough thing to pray in

619
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Speaker 1: a tough place to be.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, you're definitely not there. And I wanted to

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Speaker 2: talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Um, you got along with it. I think I do, Johnny. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 2: there is something about like humility to me is like

625
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Speaker 2: knowing you're in a, you're a part of a system.

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Speaker 2: You're not the center of the system, you know, like

627
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Speaker 2: there's a, isn't there a, scripture where he talks about don't,

628
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Speaker 2: when you go into a room, don't sit at the

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Speaker 2: head of the table because the person who belongs at

630
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Speaker 2: the head of the table might come in and see

631
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Speaker 2: you at the head of the table. I think my

632
00:28:50,792 --> 00:28:53,272
Speaker 2: tendency and where I go wrong a lot of my

633
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Speaker 2: life is I'm sitting at the head of the table,

634
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Speaker 2: you know, and I'm not, I'm not realizing it. I'm

635
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Speaker 2: just like, well, I'm the, I'm the charter of the,

636
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Speaker 2: I'm the captain of this ship. Right. And it's like,

637
00:29:03,502 --> 00:29:05,852
Speaker 2: if you really believe that you're already in the wrong,

638
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Speaker 2: you're in the wrong seat. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, I want to write a book, maybe, or

640
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Speaker 1: at least a chapter about modern main character energy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's a big one now, because you probably

642
00:29:17,502 --> 00:29:19,622
Speaker 2: hear Sadie talk about it at school. That's a big, like,

643
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Speaker 2: you're a non-playable character. This guy's got main character energy.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, that's really our biggest problem, is we

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Speaker 1: got main character energy. It is tormenting, because we're not

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Speaker 1: made to be main characters.

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Speaker 2: And main characters... they often do not work and play

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Speaker 2: well with others. And we, we make heroes of those people.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this at lunch today about like, we

650
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Speaker 2: watched a video from this contributor on Facebook that we

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Speaker 2: both love. And he was saying, one of the reasons

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Speaker 2: we're kind of in this jam that we're in the

653
00:29:48,302 --> 00:29:50,941
Speaker 2: last 20 years politically and, and just in the country

654
00:29:51,002 --> 00:29:56,692
Speaker 2: is we love movies about vigilantes. Yeah. Who the world

655
00:29:56,722 --> 00:29:59,632
Speaker 2: is chaos. And so they've got to, they got to

656
00:29:59,672 --> 00:30:02,732
Speaker 2: make things right, but they can do it outside the rules. Mm-hmm.

657
00:30:03,132 --> 00:30:07,161
Speaker 2: And we've made those guys heroes. And so, but in

658
00:30:07,222 --> 00:30:08,942
Speaker 2: real life, that's super disruptive.

659
00:30:09,382 --> 00:30:09,602
Speaker 1: Right.

660
00:30:10,022 --> 00:30:13,222
Speaker 2: You know, like a billionaire just being like, I'll take

661
00:30:13,242 --> 00:30:15,912
Speaker 2: the law into my own hands. Like, that's not great

662
00:30:15,931 --> 00:30:19,302
Speaker 2: for society at large. It's great. in a Batman movie. Right.

663
00:30:19,602 --> 00:30:21,362
Speaker 2: But we're seeing it play out and we're just like,

664
00:30:21,422 --> 00:30:23,782
Speaker 2: we're just kind of watching it. Like, why does part

665
00:30:23,802 --> 00:30:25,661
Speaker 2: of me like romanticize this? And part of me is

666
00:30:25,681 --> 00:30:28,402
Speaker 2: terrified by it. Well, you're conditioned. Yeah.

667
00:30:28,681 --> 00:30:31,642
Speaker 1: I mean, every hero movie, every vigilante movie, every one

668
00:30:31,681 --> 00:30:34,792
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, and it's not the same as

669
00:30:35,492 --> 00:30:36,572
Speaker 1: an oppressed people group.

670
00:30:36,992 --> 00:30:38,772
Speaker 2: Yeah. In the 1960s. Yeah.

671
00:30:38,872 --> 00:30:41,372
Speaker 1: And a Martin Luther King speaking truth of power in

672
00:30:41,392 --> 00:30:46,112
Speaker 1: a moment, you know, peacefully with nothing to gain except liberty.

673
00:30:46,472 --> 00:30:48,362
Speaker 2: But you're right. The main character energy thing is like

674
00:30:48,402 --> 00:30:53,062
Speaker 2: such a funny. It's like we've made that a good thing.

675
00:30:54,122 --> 00:30:57,642
Speaker 2: But we also have like destroyed the idea of like

676
00:30:57,782 --> 00:31:01,502
Speaker 2: collectivism being a good thing. Like collectivism immediately gets lumped

677
00:31:01,522 --> 00:31:04,052
Speaker 2: in with socialism. Right. Like being a part of a

678
00:31:04,072 --> 00:31:07,822
Speaker 2: collective that supports each other. It feels like weakness to

679
00:31:07,842 --> 00:31:09,642
Speaker 2: a lot of people now because you don't have main

680
00:31:09,661 --> 00:31:12,302
Speaker 2: character energy. If you can't just white knuckle it and

681
00:31:12,352 --> 00:31:15,272
Speaker 2: get through, what are you going to get help? Right.

682
00:31:15,352 --> 00:31:17,652
Speaker 2: We only go to therapy to weaponize therapy talk now.

683
00:31:17,692 --> 00:31:19,592
Speaker 2: That's really where we go. So we go, who do

684
00:31:19,652 --> 00:31:20,172
Speaker 2: I blame?

685
00:31:20,452 --> 00:31:20,652
Speaker 1: Right.

686
00:31:20,992 --> 00:31:23,902
Speaker 2: Who's responsible for this? So we can point it outward.

687
00:31:23,942 --> 00:31:26,282
Speaker 2: We don't go to get better, really. No.

688
00:31:26,302 --> 00:31:29,122
Speaker 1: And when I was able in therapy to come to

689
00:31:29,161 --> 00:31:30,961
Speaker 1: the conclusion that you were to blame.

690
00:31:31,322 --> 00:31:31,482
Speaker 2: Right.

691
00:31:31,922 --> 00:31:33,322
Speaker 1: I mean, for all of us. I couldn't believe it.

692
00:31:33,342 --> 00:31:34,422
Speaker 1: It went back to my childhood.

693
00:31:34,442 --> 00:31:35,562
Speaker 2: They were like, do you know Johnny?

694
00:31:35,582 --> 00:31:37,622
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't even know Johnny back then.

695
00:31:37,681 --> 00:31:41,122
Speaker 2: How did this work? It really did simplify things. I'm

696
00:31:41,161 --> 00:31:43,282
Speaker 2: so glad that we found it. We figured it out.

697
00:31:43,322 --> 00:31:43,762
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got it.

698
00:31:43,802 --> 00:31:46,102
Speaker 2: That didn't take long at all. John, let's do my segments.

699
00:31:46,142 --> 00:31:48,622
Speaker 2: Let's start with Johnny's old jokes. We call it Joke

700
00:31:48,642 --> 00:31:57,802
Speaker 2: About That. John, I was driving down the road in

701
00:31:57,822 --> 00:32:00,432
Speaker 2: this joke. Saw a hitchhiker. Being in a generous mood,

702
00:32:00,462 --> 00:32:02,672
Speaker 2: I decided I'd give him a ride. Picked him up

703
00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:04,392
Speaker 2: and we started down the road. He was very thankful,

704
00:32:04,411 --> 00:32:06,172
Speaker 2: but said, you aren't scared that I could be a

705
00:32:06,252 --> 00:32:08,892
Speaker 2: serial killer or something? So I chuckled, looked at him

706
00:32:08,931 --> 00:32:11,212
Speaker 2: and said, the chances that we're both serial killers is

707
00:32:11,252 --> 00:32:15,192
Speaker 2: probably pretty low, don't you think? It's got a new

708
00:32:15,232 --> 00:32:17,332
Speaker 2: little comeback for the next time I pick up a hitchhiker.

709
00:32:17,352 --> 00:32:20,012
Speaker 2: I like that. John, a woman wakes up on her

710
00:32:20,032 --> 00:32:21,442
Speaker 2: birthday and says to her husband, honey, I had a

711
00:32:21,452 --> 00:32:23,902
Speaker 2: dream last night that you gave me a diamond necklace

712
00:32:24,222 --> 00:32:27,681
Speaker 2: for my birthday. What do you think it means? Her

713
00:32:27,722 --> 00:32:30,062
Speaker 2: husband smiles and says, maybe tonight you'll find out. Later

714
00:32:30,082 --> 00:32:32,012
Speaker 2: that night, A couple go out to a nice show,

715
00:32:32,052 --> 00:32:34,252
Speaker 2: have dinner at their special place. At the end of

716
00:32:34,272 --> 00:32:36,211
Speaker 2: the meal, the husband takes out a small gift wrap box,

717
00:32:36,672 --> 00:32:38,572
Speaker 2: hands it to his wife, and says, Happy birthday, honey.

718
00:32:39,072 --> 00:32:41,152
Speaker 2: The wife opens the box, and inside is a book titled,

719
00:32:41,292 --> 00:32:47,052
Speaker 2: How to Interpret Your Dreams. And they later got divorced.

720
00:32:47,092 --> 00:32:51,842
Speaker 2: That's the hook of the She Became Bitter. John, finally,

721
00:32:51,862 --> 00:32:55,522
Speaker 2: an old preacher, renowned scholar, a rich businessman, and a

722
00:32:55,562 --> 00:32:57,882
Speaker 2: young boy were riding on a small plane. The engine fails,

723
00:32:59,022 --> 00:33:01,282
Speaker 2: as it does in these kind of jokes. The pilot

724
00:33:01,302 --> 00:33:03,322
Speaker 2: tells the passengers, we're going down, but we only have

725
00:33:03,362 --> 00:33:05,902
Speaker 2: four parachutes. One of us will have to stay, but

726
00:33:05,942 --> 00:33:07,852
Speaker 2: it ain't going to be me. He grabs a parachute

727
00:33:07,872 --> 00:33:10,692
Speaker 2: and jumps. The scholar gets out of his seat and says,

728
00:33:10,832 --> 00:33:13,192
Speaker 2: I'm too smart to die. He also grabs a parachute

729
00:33:13,212 --> 00:33:15,792
Speaker 2: and jumps. Once the businessman sees this, he says, I'm

730
00:33:15,812 --> 00:33:18,342
Speaker 2: too rich to die. He grabs the third parachute and jumps.

731
00:33:18,732 --> 00:33:20,322
Speaker 2: The preacher looks at the young boy and says, I've

732
00:33:20,342 --> 00:33:22,681
Speaker 2: lived a long life, but you're still young. This is

733
00:33:22,722 --> 00:33:25,622
Speaker 2: you in the story. You would be the preacher. You're

734
00:33:25,642 --> 00:33:30,222
Speaker 2: still young. Take the last parachute and live. The boy responds,

735
00:33:30,262 --> 00:33:31,721
Speaker 2: thank you, sir. That's very kind of you, but we

736
00:33:31,762 --> 00:33:34,562
Speaker 2: can both survive. Confused, the preacher asks, what do you mean?

737
00:33:34,622 --> 00:33:37,362
Speaker 2: We only have one parachute left. To which the boy responds,

738
00:33:37,722 --> 00:33:39,822
Speaker 2: before the scholar jumped, he grabbed my backpack.

739
00:33:42,802 --> 00:33:43,382
Speaker 1: Come on, guys.

740
00:33:43,422 --> 00:33:46,542
Speaker 2: Come on now. Won't that? It probably won't. But John's

741
00:33:46,582 --> 00:33:48,142
Speaker 2: going to use it. I feel more like the scholar.

742
00:33:48,342 --> 00:33:50,202
Speaker 2: That feels like John's going to be using that. That's

743
00:33:50,262 --> 00:33:52,672
Speaker 2: one of those like. And now turn in your Bibles.

744
00:33:53,012 --> 00:33:55,832
Speaker 2: Feels like a very pre-sermon. You know, I was thinking

745
00:33:55,852 --> 00:33:57,712
Speaker 2: the other day. You know, I hardly have any. You know,

746
00:33:57,752 --> 00:33:59,252
Speaker 2: I was on a plane the other day and the

747
00:33:59,312 --> 00:34:04,012
Speaker 2: engine failed. I just did a show in Charlotte area, Gastonia,

748
00:34:04,232 --> 00:34:07,622
Speaker 2: North Carolina. And I can do a pretty good preacher

749
00:34:07,661 --> 00:34:10,822
Speaker 2: Billy Graham voice. And so I was saying like, we're

750
00:34:10,842 --> 00:34:12,661
Speaker 2: talking about, I do a joke about my accent being

751
00:34:12,722 --> 00:34:15,262
Speaker 2: judged and everything. And I said, I like your accent.

752
00:34:15,562 --> 00:34:17,221
Speaker 2: I could do North Carolina. And I started doing it.

753
00:34:17,262 --> 00:34:19,721
Speaker 2: And they weren't like, that's not it. They were all like,

754
00:34:19,902 --> 00:34:22,082
Speaker 2: you're nailing it. Everybody after the show was like, you

755
00:34:22,222 --> 00:34:24,201
Speaker 2: nailed it. I want to hear it. Well, that's what

756
00:34:24,222 --> 00:34:26,862
Speaker 2: I was doing. Won't you come? Others are coming. It's

757
00:34:26,922 --> 00:34:28,582
Speaker 2: very North Carolina.

758
00:34:29,882 --> 00:34:30,781
Speaker 1: Can you say filling station?

759
00:34:30,802 --> 00:34:36,092
Speaker 2: North Carolina. Filling station. why don't they call him that

760
00:34:36,112 --> 00:34:38,192
Speaker 2: anymore i miss that i miss those days i think

761
00:34:38,272 --> 00:34:39,632
Speaker 2: hey governor it's been a long time.

762
00:34:39,772 --> 00:34:42,342
Speaker 1: South carolina still does last i heard.

763
00:34:42,181 --> 00:34:44,642
Speaker 2: But i'm the governor of south carolina come on down

764
00:34:44,681 --> 00:34:48,022
Speaker 2: to my filling station john let's do this week in

765
00:34:48,062 --> 00:34:55,612
Speaker 2: history we call it talk about then john the first

766
00:34:56,392 --> 00:35:00,632
Speaker 2: portable cell phone call was this week in 19 you

767
00:35:00,652 --> 00:35:04,182
Speaker 2: want to guess Portable cell phone. Portable cell phone call.

768
00:35:04,542 --> 00:35:08,362
Speaker 2: First one. 78. 73. Oh, wow. First portable cell phone

769
00:35:08,382 --> 00:35:11,962
Speaker 2: call is made. General manager of Motorola's communication systems division

770
00:35:12,042 --> 00:35:15,942
Speaker 2: calls his rival, which is kind of a something. Because

771
00:35:15,962 --> 00:35:17,262
Speaker 2: you think about it, it had to be somebody else

772
00:35:17,302 --> 00:35:21,292
Speaker 2: that had a mobile phone. I guess you could have

773
00:35:21,312 --> 00:35:23,852
Speaker 2: called the landline. How do they know? But theirs doesn't work.

774
00:35:24,052 --> 00:35:26,192
Speaker 2: Maybe he called them on a landline to be like, hey,

775
00:35:26,472 --> 00:35:28,952
Speaker 2: guess where I'm calling you from? The desert, fool! Yeah.

776
00:35:32,042 --> 00:35:35,542
Speaker 2: look no wires anyway it was his rival at the

777
00:35:35,602 --> 00:35:38,702
Speaker 2: AT & T' s Bell Labs from the streets of New

778
00:35:38,742 --> 00:35:40,272
Speaker 2: York City so he calls him from New York City

779
00:35:40,912 --> 00:35:42,872
Speaker 2: and he's like you're not going to believe what I'm

780
00:35:42,892 --> 00:35:44,672
Speaker 2: calling you and the phone's big enough it's like a

781
00:35:44,732 --> 00:35:46,852
Speaker 2: stool it's like gigantic he's in the back of a

782
00:35:46,892 --> 00:35:51,492
Speaker 2: van yeah he's got carpal tunnel from holding it but

783
00:35:51,512 --> 00:35:54,232
Speaker 2: yeah that's the first you know what I remember the

784
00:35:54,252 --> 00:35:56,911
Speaker 2: thing I remember what's funny about those big gigantic cell

785
00:35:56,932 --> 00:36:00,192
Speaker 2: phones this is going to date us but I remember

786
00:36:01,032 --> 00:36:05,062
Speaker 2: the bag phone was the first one, right? You play

787
00:36:05,212 --> 00:36:07,102
Speaker 2: in the antenna, huge antenna on your car. But the

788
00:36:07,122 --> 00:36:11,542
Speaker 2: thing I remember from popular culture was Zach Morris on

789
00:36:11,602 --> 00:36:15,662
Speaker 2: saved by the bell had one. He's talking to his dad.

790
00:36:15,822 --> 00:36:18,832
Speaker 2: His dad's constantly taking calls. He's like, I got to

791
00:36:18,872 --> 00:36:22,612
Speaker 2: take this son. And then finally his dad's like, you know,

792
00:36:22,752 --> 00:36:24,332
Speaker 2: at the end of the episode, it's like a come

793
00:36:24,352 --> 00:36:26,632
Speaker 2: to Jesus, you know, moment where he's like, son, I'm sorry.

794
00:36:26,652 --> 00:36:29,542
Speaker 2: I've been around. It's been super busy. But I'm sorry,

795
00:36:29,582 --> 00:36:30,862
Speaker 2: I've got to take this. And he takes a call,

796
00:36:31,282 --> 00:36:33,502
Speaker 2: and then it pans back over, and it's Zach on

797
00:36:33,562 --> 00:36:35,742
Speaker 2: one of those gigantic phones. And he goes, hey, it's

798
00:36:35,782 --> 00:36:37,842
Speaker 2: your son. It was basically like, the only way I

799
00:36:37,842 --> 00:36:39,222
Speaker 2: can get your attention is to have one of these

800
00:36:39,292 --> 00:36:41,692
Speaker 2: gigantic devices in my ear. Come on now. And won't that?

801
00:36:42,512 --> 00:36:46,572
Speaker 2: And they both wept. Did they? No. Okay. I remember

802
00:36:46,592 --> 00:36:48,432
Speaker 2: it was a moment that was like, I'm sorry, son.

803
00:36:48,452 --> 00:36:51,532
Speaker 2: He drops his phone. Oh. In time, he developed a

804
00:36:51,552 --> 00:36:54,152
Speaker 2: tumor because those old cell phones were really not great.

805
00:36:54,412 --> 00:36:56,552
Speaker 2: That's the part. That's the part they don't tell you. No,

806
00:36:56,732 --> 00:36:57,462
Speaker 2: it was a two-parter.

807
00:36:57,582 --> 00:36:58,262
Speaker 1: Yeah.

808
00:36:58,302 --> 00:37:01,062
Speaker 2: As was the tumor. Sit, Ubu, sit. The tumor was

809
00:37:01,102 --> 00:37:07,002
Speaker 2: a two-parter, too. John, this week, born this week, the

810
00:37:07,262 --> 00:37:10,142
Speaker 2: father of modern bodybuilding. Not me. A lot of people

811
00:37:10,162 --> 00:37:11,902
Speaker 2: think I was the– I hear that a lot. I'm

812
00:37:11,942 --> 00:37:16,181
Speaker 2: the grandson of modern bodybuilding. I'm what happens when you

813
00:37:16,242 --> 00:37:20,192
Speaker 2: stop for years on end and you start eating cheese duds.

814
00:37:21,452 --> 00:37:26,892
Speaker 2: His name was Eugene Sandow. He was– it says Friedrich

815
00:37:26,932 --> 00:37:29,772
Speaker 2: Wilhelm Muller. I don't know why there's two names. But anyway,

816
00:37:30,012 --> 00:37:33,712
Speaker 2: Eugene Sandow was born April of 1867, which is a

817
00:37:33,732 --> 00:37:39,222
Speaker 2: long time ago. to be the father of modern bodybuilding.

818
00:37:39,242 --> 00:37:43,042
Speaker 2: He died in 1925. He was a German strongman, which

819
00:37:43,362 --> 00:37:46,681
Speaker 2: German strongman, you don't want to hear that. You immediately

820
00:37:46,752 --> 00:37:47,312
Speaker 2: think Hitler.

821
00:37:47,392 --> 00:37:47,692
Speaker 1: In 1867.

822
00:37:47,692 --> 00:37:50,292
Speaker 2: You don't want to be known as a German strongman.

823
00:37:50,312 --> 00:37:52,732
Speaker 2: Come on, get out of here with that. But he

824
00:37:52,792 --> 00:37:58,252
Speaker 2: organized the first bodybuilding contest in 1901. Wow. Sir Arthur,

825
00:37:58,452 --> 00:37:59,962
Speaker 2: this is the weirdest part of this and why it

826
00:37:59,982 --> 00:38:03,681
Speaker 2: probably makes the list. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, creative Sherlock Holmes,

827
00:38:03,782 --> 00:38:07,552
Speaker 2: was one of the judges. Huh. What was he doing there?

828
00:38:08,212 --> 00:38:10,112
Speaker 2: He's supposed to be one of these literary thinkers. I'm

829
00:38:10,132 --> 00:38:12,572
Speaker 2: going to go solve. I'm going to write mystery novels.

830
00:38:12,832 --> 00:38:14,911
Speaker 2: He's like, you know what we should do tonight? Let's

831
00:38:14,952 --> 00:38:16,952
Speaker 2: go watch these guys flex.

832
00:38:17,472 --> 00:38:20,902
Speaker 1: You know, though, remember the one with Robert Downey Jr.,

833
00:38:20,932 --> 00:38:21,562
Speaker 1: the first one?

834
00:38:21,662 --> 00:38:25,022
Speaker 2: Sure. Where he, like, goes into the boxing ring. Yeah. And, like,

835
00:38:25,082 --> 00:38:26,862
Speaker 2: he's trained. He's seeing five moves ahead.

836
00:38:26,882 --> 00:38:28,042
Speaker 1: He knows what to do and all.

837
00:38:28,782 --> 00:38:31,242
Speaker 2: Maybe that's kind of. So he was into that physical fitness.

838
00:38:31,602 --> 00:38:33,342
Speaker 2: Maybe that was part of the deal. I always thought

839
00:38:33,362 --> 00:38:36,382
Speaker 2: that was just kind of. They took literary. agency with

840
00:38:36,402 --> 00:38:38,822
Speaker 2: the character, but maybe he was more into physical exertion.

841
00:38:38,842 --> 00:38:41,122
Speaker 1: What we do here on this podcast is we start

842
00:38:41,182 --> 00:38:42,972
Speaker 1: piecing together the pieces of information.

843
00:38:43,872 --> 00:38:49,572
Speaker 2: And then we make completely conjecture like total speculative things

844
00:38:49,612 --> 00:38:52,212
Speaker 2: that have no real basis in reality. And then people

845
00:38:52,232 --> 00:38:54,732
Speaker 2: call us out on it and then we don't apologize.

846
00:38:55,302 --> 00:38:58,362
Speaker 1: Talkaboutspeculation.com Absolutely.

847
00:38:58,742 --> 00:39:03,462
Speaker 2: That domain is probably still available. John, this week, 1887,

848
00:39:03,462 --> 00:39:08,282
Speaker 2: the first U.S. woman was elected mayor Uh, Susanna Salter

849
00:39:08,462 --> 00:39:11,622
Speaker 2: is elected by Argonia, Kansas, which that seems like an

850
00:39:11,662 --> 00:39:15,442
Speaker 2: area of the country that would not be that progressive. Sorry.

851
00:39:16,022 --> 00:39:18,712
Speaker 2: In 1887. But here's how it happened. And this is

852
00:39:18,752 --> 00:39:19,582
Speaker 2: why it makes the list.

853
00:39:19,682 --> 00:39:20,312
Speaker 1: Kansanites.

854
00:39:20,372 --> 00:39:27,692
Speaker 2: She was nominated. Kansans. Kansans. Can we say Kansanites? Sorry.

855
00:39:27,712 --> 00:39:30,551
Speaker 2: They're the Wisconsinites. She was nominated as a prank, John.

856
00:39:30,732 --> 00:39:33,322
Speaker 2: She didn't find out. She was running until the morning

857
00:39:33,542 --> 00:39:36,992
Speaker 2: of the election. But it's a happy ending because she

858
00:39:37,012 --> 00:39:38,632
Speaker 2: was nominated without her knowledge by a group of men

859
00:39:38,672 --> 00:39:41,622
Speaker 2: who opposed women in politics as an attempt to humiliate

860
00:39:41,662 --> 00:39:44,382
Speaker 2: her and discourage other women from running for office. She

861
00:39:44,462 --> 00:39:46,181
Speaker 2: won with two-thirds.

862
00:39:45,662 --> 00:39:47,262
Speaker 1: Of the vote.

863
00:39:47,662 --> 00:39:48,642
Speaker 2: Backfired!

864
00:39:48,702 --> 00:39:48,962
Speaker 1: Yep.

865
00:39:49,622 --> 00:39:51,482
Speaker 2: She served her one-year term and then declined to run

866
00:39:51,502 --> 00:39:54,102
Speaker 2: for re-election. So she probably harassed this whole year, probably, right?

867
00:39:54,142 --> 00:39:55,842
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what that was, yeah.

868
00:39:55,862 --> 00:39:57,622
Speaker 2: Yeah. But it doesn't say what happened that year, but

869
00:39:57,792 --> 00:39:59,552
Speaker 2: evidently it was enough that she was like, I'm out.

870
00:40:01,292 --> 00:40:02,332
Speaker 2: But she ran for a year, though.

871
00:40:02,352 --> 00:40:03,492
Speaker 1: I want my wife to run for office.

872
00:40:03,932 --> 00:40:04,112
Speaker 2: Okay.

873
00:40:04,932 --> 00:40:07,562
Speaker 1: I think she'd have to start like county commissioner or whatever, probably.

874
00:40:07,642 --> 00:40:09,602
Speaker 1: But yeah, she'd be so good.

875
00:40:10,162 --> 00:40:13,282
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure. I'd vote. I mean, it's a pay cut.

876
00:40:13,342 --> 00:40:16,732
Speaker 2: She's doing okay in health care right now. Well, what

877
00:40:16,752 --> 00:40:17,952
Speaker 2: do you get for county commissioner?

878
00:40:18,152 --> 00:40:19,652
Speaker 1: I don't know if you get anything for county commissioner.

879
00:40:19,672 --> 00:40:21,632
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. She'd have to still be like

880
00:40:21,652 --> 00:40:22,472
Speaker 2: having two jobs.

881
00:40:22,632 --> 00:40:22,832
Speaker 1: Yeah.

882
00:40:22,972 --> 00:40:24,692
Speaker 2: Plus taking care of you. That's three jobs.

883
00:40:25,512 --> 00:40:26,432
Speaker 1: But I think she's up for it.

884
00:40:27,412 --> 00:40:30,452
Speaker 2: You're probably right. Lawyer driver, 2028. You got to wait

885
00:40:30,472 --> 00:40:32,392
Speaker 2: that long? I don't know. Midterms.

886
00:40:32,492 --> 00:40:34,672
Speaker 1: I just skipped to the, no, she, she is kind

887
00:40:34,692 --> 00:40:36,292
Speaker 1: of commissioner next year by then president.

888
00:40:36,972 --> 00:40:38,492
Speaker 2: I just want to say that if elected, I will

889
00:40:38,532 --> 00:40:41,052
Speaker 2: not serve. If nominated, I will not run. If elected,

890
00:40:41,072 --> 00:40:42,951
Speaker 2: I will not serve. Okay. Even if it's as a prank.

891
00:40:43,622 --> 00:40:43,911
Speaker 1: All right.

892
00:40:44,662 --> 00:40:48,562
Speaker 2: I just want to sit back and, uh, you know,

893
00:40:48,582 --> 00:40:51,662
Speaker 2: just complain, complain about all of it. No matter who. Listen,

894
00:40:51,762 --> 00:40:53,282
Speaker 2: you got that one down. Thank you.

895
00:40:53,522 --> 00:40:55,942
Speaker 1: If that's what you want to do, you are fulfilling

896
00:40:55,962 --> 00:40:56,382
Speaker 1: your life's.

897
00:40:56,662 --> 00:40:59,772
Speaker 2: How much does that pay? If you have a podcast,

898
00:41:00,132 --> 00:41:04,732
Speaker 2: still not much. John, this week, finally, this week, 1964,

899
00:41:04,732 --> 00:41:09,411
Speaker 2: the Beatles take the number one position on the Billboard list.

900
00:41:10,292 --> 00:41:14,602
Speaker 2: They also take positions two through five. Wow. I don't

901
00:41:14,622 --> 00:41:19,082
Speaker 2: know if that's ever happened again. Or since. Taylor had

902
00:41:19,142 --> 00:41:20,862
Speaker 2: all 10 on one of the charts. No, she didn't.

903
00:41:20,882 --> 00:41:21,482
Speaker 2: She did at one point.

904
00:41:21,502 --> 00:41:23,272
Speaker 1: Did she really? Yeah.

905
00:41:23,312 --> 00:41:24,512
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was Billboard, but she had

906
00:41:24,532 --> 00:41:27,352
Speaker 2: it on a chart. Yeah. This was 64. And I

907
00:41:27,352 --> 00:41:29,212
Speaker 2: even looked up the songs to kind of round up

908
00:41:29,232 --> 00:41:31,052
Speaker 2: those because it didn't say. I looked them up. Do

909
00:41:31,072 --> 00:41:32,732
Speaker 2: you want to guess what the songs were in 1964?

910
00:41:32,732 --> 00:41:36,352
Speaker 1: You're not a huge Beatles guy, but you can.

911
00:41:36,092 --> 00:41:38,472
Speaker 2: Probably guess a couple of them. So this would have

912
00:41:38,492 --> 00:41:40,122
Speaker 2: been the more.

913
00:41:40,342 --> 00:41:41,082
Speaker 1: I want to hold your hand.

914
00:41:41,102 --> 00:41:51,872
Speaker 2: I want to hold your hand. Was number four. I

915
00:41:51,892 --> 00:41:54,052
Speaker 2: have it in my head. I'm singing it. Number five

916
00:41:54,112 --> 00:41:57,032
Speaker 2: was She Loves... Oh, Please Please Me. Okay. Wanna Hold

917
00:41:57,052 --> 00:41:59,672
Speaker 2: Your Hand, number four. She Loves You. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

918
00:41:59,772 --> 00:42:01,992
Speaker 1: I was singing yeah, yeah in my head and I

919
00:42:02,012 --> 00:42:02,522
Speaker 1: couldn't get to the.

920
00:42:02,532 --> 00:42:05,092
Speaker 2: Twist and Shout at number two. Okay, Twist and Shout

921
00:42:05,152 --> 00:42:08,592
Speaker 2: is Beatles? Yeah. No. It's Lennon. What the cool thing

922
00:42:08,612 --> 00:42:11,692
Speaker 2: about that one is, John Lennon was sick that day. Okay,

923
00:42:11,712 --> 00:42:14,942
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on. Shaking our baby now.

924
00:42:15,522 --> 00:42:17,122
Speaker 1: I thought that was Chubby Checker.

925
00:42:17,622 --> 00:42:21,402
Speaker 2: Nope. Did he redo? Am I crazy? Maybe. They did

926
00:42:21,442 --> 00:42:23,542
Speaker 2: Twist and Shout? They did Twist and Shout. The best

927
00:42:23,562 --> 00:42:25,022
Speaker 2: part about it was... Come on, come on, come on, baby.

928
00:42:25,042 --> 00:42:26,422
Speaker 2: So if you remember when we were sick... No, that's

929
00:42:26,462 --> 00:42:30,382
Speaker 2: not Chubby... What's Chubby Checker? Do the twist. I'm sorry, guys.

930
00:42:30,402 --> 00:42:32,422
Speaker 2: Come on, baby, let's do the twist. Somebody was screaming

931
00:42:32,442 --> 00:42:34,342
Speaker 2: right then. So Twist and Shout was the Beatles. But listen,

932
00:42:34,362 --> 00:42:37,322
Speaker 2: it's not a cover. I heard you screaming, listener, from

933
00:42:37,922 --> 00:42:39,002
Speaker 2: the future. Yeah.

934
00:42:39,022 --> 00:42:39,482
Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead.

935
00:42:39,982 --> 00:42:42,352
Speaker 2: But anyway, the most interesting part about that one is,

936
00:42:42,412 --> 00:42:44,852
Speaker 2: and you can... check me but I'm almost positive I've

937
00:42:44,892 --> 00:42:47,922
Speaker 2: read more than once that John Lennon was really sick

938
00:42:48,942 --> 00:42:50,242
Speaker 2: and so he didn't want to do it and they

939
00:42:50,262 --> 00:42:52,422
Speaker 2: were just like just push through that's why his voice

940
00:42:52,442 --> 00:42:54,562
Speaker 2: sounds so different in that he's literally got a head

941
00:42:54,582 --> 00:42:55,721
Speaker 2: cold that's why I didn't know it was the Beatles

942
00:42:55,742 --> 00:42:57,642
Speaker 2: he's got a head cold it's John Lennon's he's not

943
00:42:57,662 --> 00:43:00,522
Speaker 2: got the John Lennon he's doing the it's really raspy

944
00:43:00,622 --> 00:43:02,082
Speaker 2: it's because he's sick.

945
00:43:02,242 --> 00:43:04,562
Speaker 1: They should have made him sick more often sorry go

946
00:43:04,602 --> 00:43:05,842
Speaker 1: ahead they might have made it.

947
00:43:06,082 --> 00:43:10,862
Speaker 2: Number one John this week.

948
00:43:09,442 --> 00:43:11,982
Speaker 1: 1964 I mean again this seems too early.

949
00:43:12,532 --> 00:43:15,692
Speaker 2: Can't buy me love. Can you think of that? That's

950
00:43:15,812 --> 00:43:19,712
Speaker 2: five bangers. I mean, no wonder. That's crazy. But while

951
00:43:19,732 --> 00:43:21,272
Speaker 2: I was thinking about the Beatles, and we don't get it,

952
00:43:21,292 --> 00:43:24,832
Speaker 2: this isn't a Beatles fanboy podcast, but I have friends,

953
00:43:24,852 --> 00:43:27,432
Speaker 2: I have a comedian friend, Sean Reynolds, who's a Beatles lunatic.

954
00:43:28,512 --> 00:43:30,092
Speaker 2: And he has all this archive stuff. He has all

955
00:43:30,112 --> 00:43:33,212
Speaker 2: the old records and all the memorabilia. And he told

956
00:43:33,252 --> 00:43:35,172
Speaker 2: me one time, he goes, the craziest thing is like

957
00:43:35,792 --> 00:43:38,972
Speaker 2: when they became big to when they stopped making music,

958
00:43:39,592 --> 00:43:41,212
Speaker 2: when you think about all the music they made, it's

959
00:43:41,232 --> 00:43:44,062
Speaker 2: only a seven year period. Isn't that crazy to think about? Like,

960
00:43:44,462 --> 00:43:48,402
Speaker 2: the doo-wah, doo-wah, like, girl-crazy Beatles era when they're on

961
00:43:48,422 --> 00:43:50,142
Speaker 2: the Ed Sullivan Show and all that, and that's happening.

962
00:43:50,802 --> 00:43:55,332
Speaker 2: To the druggie, like, weird, you know, Yellow Submarine. Yellow

963
00:43:55,352 --> 00:43:59,232
Speaker 2: Submarine years. That seven years. Like, they made so many

964
00:43:59,372 --> 00:44:04,172
Speaker 2: different eras of themselves. It's like Taylor, John. Which is, yeah,

965
00:44:04,212 --> 00:44:05,372
Speaker 2: it is. That's where we go.

966
00:44:05,512 --> 00:44:05,912
Speaker 1: Which is it.

967
00:44:05,912 --> 00:44:07,542
Speaker 2: It all comes back to Taylor Swift for you and

968
00:44:07,562 --> 00:44:08,742
Speaker 2: your family, doesn't it, John?

969
00:44:09,182 --> 00:44:10,522
Speaker 1: She's written a lot of stuff.

970
00:44:10,542 --> 00:44:10,702
Speaker 2: I know.

971
00:44:10,722 --> 00:44:12,382
Speaker 1: Look, whether you hate her or you love her, listen

972
00:44:12,402 --> 00:44:12,532
Speaker 1: to her.

973
00:44:13,902 --> 00:44:15,902
Speaker 2: And we're not. She's done a lot of stuff. It's true.

974
00:44:16,602 --> 00:44:19,442
Speaker 2: But anyway, that's the crazy top five billboards. I don't

975
00:44:19,462 --> 00:44:22,272
Speaker 2: think Taylor's ever had top ten. I think you're wrong

976
00:44:22,292 --> 00:44:22,512
Speaker 2: about that.

977
00:44:22,522 --> 00:44:23,812
Speaker 1: There's only one way to find out.

978
00:44:23,832 --> 00:44:29,312
Speaker 2: There's no way. Did Taylor... Swift.

979
00:44:30,232 --> 00:44:31,612
Speaker 1: Sorry, I can't type from this angle here.

980
00:44:33,332 --> 00:44:36,752
Speaker 2: Boy. Ever have... Just talk amongst yourselves, listeners.

981
00:44:36,832 --> 00:44:41,262
Speaker 1: Multiple songs on a single chart....

982
00:44:41,932 --> 00:44:43,872
Speaker 2: It's going to be some weird chart, though, that's not

983
00:44:43,892 --> 00:44:45,732
Speaker 2: the billboard. The billboard's different.

984
00:44:46,642 --> 00:44:47,681
Speaker 1: On a single.

985
00:44:47,882 --> 00:44:50,102
Speaker 2: Give me a billboard 100, though. That's important.

986
00:44:51,342 --> 00:44:52,122
Speaker 1: I'll just say billboard.

987
00:44:52,182 --> 00:44:57,022
Speaker 2: Let's see. Billboard. I type for a living.

988
00:44:57,662 --> 00:45:02,652
Speaker 1: All right. Thinking, working. Has not only had multiple songs charted,

989
00:45:02,692 --> 00:45:05,292
Speaker 1: a single billboard chart. She has absolutely dominated. This is

990
00:45:05,332 --> 00:45:06,692
Speaker 1: what he... This is what chat's saying.

991
00:45:06,752 --> 00:45:06,971
Speaker 2: Okay.

992
00:45:07,152 --> 00:45:07,472
Speaker 1: Not me.

993
00:45:07,492 --> 00:45:09,592
Speaker 2: Right. Actually, my chat....

994
00:45:11,122 --> 00:45:14,082
Speaker 1: Model is named Preston. Just so you know. John.

995
00:45:15,362 --> 00:45:18,962
Speaker 2: Let's see. Most jaw-dropping examples. October 2022. Yeah.

996
00:45:20,172 --> 00:45:22,532
Speaker 1: She had, with the release of her album Midnight, Taylor

997
00:45:22,552 --> 00:45:25,052
Speaker 1: Swift became the first artist in history to occupy all

998
00:45:25,052 --> 00:45:29,092
Speaker 1: 10 spots, top 10 spots on the Billboard Hot 100 simultaneously.

999
00:45:29,112 --> 00:45:29,712
Speaker 2: Wow.

1000
00:45:29,892 --> 00:45:30,332
Speaker 1: I was right.

1001
00:45:30,592 --> 00:45:33,701
Speaker 2: Okay. Very, very right. So you're saying that she's better

1002
00:45:33,742 --> 00:45:38,142
Speaker 2: than the Beatles by your way of thinking. Those songs

1003
00:45:38,162 --> 00:45:42,602
Speaker 2: would have been anti-hero. You're not naming all 10 songs, John.

1004
00:45:42,702 --> 00:45:43,422
Speaker 1: Lavender Haze.

1005
00:45:43,462 --> 00:45:44,701
Speaker 2: We got to go. Okay. Sorry.

1006
00:45:46,622 --> 00:45:47,442
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy though?

1007
00:45:47,902 --> 00:45:50,142
Speaker 2: I think it says more about today's listener. Cause like

1008
00:45:50,162 --> 00:45:52,741
Speaker 2: a record comes out, you're, they're streaming it. That's probably

1009
00:45:52,782 --> 00:45:54,002
Speaker 2: how it happened back then.

1010
00:45:55,022 --> 00:45:58,242
Speaker 1: You think it'd be more, more possible back then because

1011
00:45:58,302 --> 00:45:59,522
Speaker 1: you were actually buying records.

1012
00:45:59,802 --> 00:46:02,642
Speaker 2: I guess. And then he had payola too, which there's

1013
00:46:02,662 --> 00:46:04,872
Speaker 2: still payola today too, as far as like what people

1014
00:46:04,912 --> 00:46:05,951
Speaker 2: spend and what people like.

1015
00:46:06,512 --> 00:46:06,692
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1016
00:46:06,892 --> 00:46:10,382
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's not exactly a meritocracy, but. Why can't we

1017
00:46:10,442 --> 00:46:12,582
Speaker 2: be in on the corruption? Why can't, you know?

1018
00:46:13,142 --> 00:46:14,262
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, listen.

1019
00:46:14,382 --> 00:46:16,302
Speaker 2: When do we get to be the thing that's forced

1020
00:46:16,342 --> 00:46:19,562
Speaker 2: down people's throats? I know money corrupts people. Yeah. But

1021
00:46:19,982 --> 00:46:22,342
Speaker 2: how can I ever test that theory? Yeah, I want

1022
00:46:22,362 --> 00:46:25,482
Speaker 2: to find out for sure if it would change me. Yeah.

1023
00:46:26,372 --> 00:46:29,692
Speaker 1: Because, look, here's the thing. If we were both getting it,

1024
00:46:29,892 --> 00:46:33,172
Speaker 1: I would hold you accountable. You would hold me accountable.

1025
00:46:33,392 --> 00:46:33,782
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1026
00:46:33,792 --> 00:46:34,572
Speaker 1: It would be just like.

1027
00:46:35,152 --> 00:46:38,432
Speaker 2: The community group. We'll be the good billionaires. Not the

1028
00:46:38,572 --> 00:46:42,232
Speaker 2: ones that get corrupted by wanting more and more and

1029
00:46:42,252 --> 00:46:44,762
Speaker 2: more and grinding poor people into fuel. We would be

1030
00:46:44,822 --> 00:46:48,402
Speaker 2: the good people. You can trust us. Yes. In fact,

1031
00:46:48,422 --> 00:46:50,301
Speaker 2: you should trust us. And that's why we'd appreciate your vote.

1032
00:46:52,322 --> 00:46:54,781
Speaker 2: And Laura Driver. 2028.

1033
00:46:54,782 --> 00:46:57,532
Speaker 1: You know what? I told you I'm watching West Wing again, right?

1034
00:46:57,592 --> 00:46:59,931
Speaker 2: Yeah, so is Curry. Because of you. Because you mentioned

1035
00:46:59,952 --> 00:47:00,952
Speaker 2: it on the show and then she started.

1036
00:47:01,492 --> 00:47:04,962
Speaker 1: So I forgot they had an episode... Probably around 2002.

1037
00:47:04,942 --> 00:47:07,442
Speaker 1: I don't know. I forget what season I'm in right now.

1038
00:47:07,962 --> 00:47:11,822
Speaker 1: I'm just in the season of bliss. That's all I know, Johnny.

1039
00:47:12,062 --> 00:47:13,402
Speaker 2: Season of nostalgia.

1040
00:47:13,442 --> 00:47:18,922
Speaker 1: They had one where they paused the drama to do

1041
00:47:18,982 --> 00:47:24,102
Speaker 1: basically a documentary episode where they intertwined interviews with real.

1042
00:47:25,482 --> 00:47:25,762
Speaker 2: Get this.

1043
00:47:25,862 --> 00:47:32,252
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter was on there. Gerald Ford. Bill Clinton. And

1044
00:47:32,272 --> 00:47:34,752
Speaker 1: at that moment, George W. was in office, so they

1045
00:47:34,772 --> 00:47:38,472
Speaker 1: didn't have him. But they had then, I think Karl Rove.

1046
00:47:38,132 --> 00:47:38,832
Speaker 2: Was on there.

1047
00:47:38,892 --> 00:47:40,772
Speaker 1: They had all the chiefs, like a bunch of chiefs

1048
00:47:40,792 --> 00:47:42,572
Speaker 1: of staff and communications people.

1049
00:47:42,592 --> 00:47:44,732
Speaker 2: And then they would interview them and ask them questions.

1050
00:47:44,792 --> 00:47:46,951
Speaker 1: And then they would go to like a clip from

1051
00:47:46,992 --> 00:47:50,022
Speaker 1: the show of the person who's playing their type of

1052
00:47:50,102 --> 00:47:54,022
Speaker 1: role actually doing something. And how like really close actually

1053
00:47:54,062 --> 00:47:57,382
Speaker 1: it was to what they're doing. But it was fascinating.

1054
00:47:58,022 --> 00:47:59,742
Speaker 1: My wife fell asleep during it. I don't want to

1055
00:47:59,762 --> 00:48:01,952
Speaker 1: talk about it. she might have been getting sick she

1056
00:48:01,972 --> 00:48:03,312
Speaker 1: was not feeling.

1057
00:48:03,632 --> 00:48:05,412
Speaker 2: Well and she wants to be my county commissioner I.

1058
00:48:05,372 --> 00:48:08,312
Speaker 1: Know you can't do that you know what I'm saying

1059
00:48:08,332 --> 00:48:10,951
Speaker 1: if you want to be and if anyone ever resurfaces

1060
00:48:10,972 --> 00:48:13,232
Speaker 1: this episode could you imagine what it would do to

1061
00:48:13,422 --> 00:48:17,182
Speaker 1: her political career her burgeoning political career and what's crazy

1062
00:48:17,242 --> 00:48:19,182
Speaker 1: is I'm recording this and I don't have to release

1063
00:48:19,242 --> 00:48:21,661
Speaker 1: it no but I'm going to yeah we don't want

1064
00:48:21,682 --> 00:48:23,682
Speaker 1: to because we don't know how to edit that's right

1065
00:48:23,702 --> 00:48:28,261
Speaker 1: we don't know how to do it yeah oh my gosh.

1066
00:48:27,922 --> 00:48:29,862
Speaker 2: That's funny I don't know well that was it for

1067
00:48:29,882 --> 00:48:32,432
Speaker 2: history The Beatles. And you tried to trump the Beatles

1068
00:48:32,452 --> 00:48:35,592
Speaker 2: with Taylor Swift. I didn't try to trump. That's your legacy.

1069
00:48:35,652 --> 00:48:38,012
Speaker 2: Not only has it, but you're.

1070
00:48:37,872 --> 00:48:38,752
Speaker 1: A fool or whatever.

1071
00:48:38,772 --> 00:48:45,701
Speaker 2: That's fine. Well, congratulations to Miss Swift. I'm sure she'll

1072
00:48:45,722 --> 00:48:48,102
Speaker 2: be great. Yeah. I'm sure she'll make something of herself.

1073
00:48:48,462 --> 00:48:49,882
Speaker 2: You know who else is making something of themselves? That's

1074
00:48:49,902 --> 00:48:50,412
Speaker 2: Johnny W.

1075
00:48:50,642 --> 00:48:54,302
Speaker 1: J-O-N-N-I-E-W.com is where you can go to find more about him,

1076
00:48:54,362 --> 00:48:56,762
Speaker 1: his comedy, and where you can go watch him live.

1077
00:48:56,822 --> 00:48:59,832
Speaker 2: There are some new tour dates going up. And then

1078
00:48:59,852 --> 00:49:02,612
Speaker 2: there's some that I have not been allowed to release yet,

1079
00:49:02,632 --> 00:49:05,692
Speaker 2: but they're coming. We call that a tease in radio.

1080
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Speaker 1: What I want to say is, guys, I know what

1081
00:49:07,572 --> 00:49:09,202
Speaker 1: those things are and you don't, and you're going to

1082
00:49:09,212 --> 00:49:10,562
Speaker 1: be super excited when you find out.

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Speaker 2: Big news on the old W front. I got a

1084
00:49:17,082 --> 00:49:20,062
Speaker 2: little burgeoning county commission career myself.

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00:49:20,202 --> 00:49:20,701
Speaker 1: Come on now.

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00:49:21,322 --> 00:49:22,802
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the county commissioner. I don't

1087
00:49:22,822 --> 00:49:24,342
Speaker 2: even know what they do, and it sounds awful.

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00:49:24,862 --> 00:49:25,872
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you'd like it.

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00:49:27,552 --> 00:49:30,052
Speaker 2: Gotta argue about, where did they cut this road?

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00:49:30,532 --> 00:49:31,112
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:49:31,752 --> 00:49:34,492
Speaker 2: You know, they want to bring a crystal in, but

1092
00:49:34,672 --> 00:49:37,352
Speaker 2: White Castle's upset now. Like, I don't want to decide

1093
00:49:37,392 --> 00:49:38,772
Speaker 2: those things. Why can't we have both?

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00:49:38,792 --> 00:49:40,882
Speaker 1: You actually picked the one scenario that I'd be down for.

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00:49:40,902 --> 00:49:43,552
Speaker 2: Both? What we need is a taste test. We need a...

1096
00:49:43,522 --> 00:49:44,681
Speaker 2: Have them both bring us.

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00:49:44,962 --> 00:49:47,842
Speaker 1: Yes. And we'll talk about who's worthy of the road.

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00:49:47,862 --> 00:49:50,262
Speaker 2: I'm more... I think I'm more of a White Castle guy. Really?

1099
00:49:50,402 --> 00:49:54,502
Speaker 2: They're smushier. You know that they're the original hamburger. Yeah. Yeah.

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00:49:54,762 --> 00:49:57,712
Speaker 2: I mean, the original sold hamburger from, like, a restaurant. Yeah.

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00:49:57,862 --> 00:49:59,522
Speaker 1: I'm sure people made hamburgers before that.

1102
00:50:00,522 --> 00:50:02,122
Speaker 2: Sure. A beef sandwich. Yeah.

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00:50:02,702 --> 00:50:06,382
Speaker 1: But the slider came before the bigger burger. By the way,

1104
00:50:06,462 --> 00:50:10,002
Speaker 1: new season of Food Built America is out. There's one

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Speaker 1: on Doritos.

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Speaker 2: Not a sponsor.

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00:50:12,912 --> 00:50:17,392
Speaker 1: On Mexican food hitting the mainstream American culture. It's about pace... uh,

1108
00:50:17,422 --> 00:50:21,562
Speaker 1: picante and salsa, but there was no dipping chips and

1109
00:50:21,582 --> 00:50:24,142
Speaker 1: salsa before that. Did you know that? That's not what

1110
00:50:24,162 --> 00:50:27,392
Speaker 1: the people did. That's not how salsa began in American culture.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that does bug me about it is

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00:50:29,652 --> 00:50:32,092
Speaker 1: it's always like, and then Mr. Pace, he tasted it

1113
00:50:32,212 --> 00:50:34,472
Speaker 1: one day at a, at a roadside stand. He had

1114
00:50:34,512 --> 00:50:36,072
Speaker 1: no idea what it was. It was too spicy.

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00:50:36,112 --> 00:50:37,132
Speaker 2: And he got into the lab.

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00:50:37,192 --> 00:50:39,732
Speaker 1: It was like almost all of these are just some

1117
00:50:39,932 --> 00:50:42,372
Speaker 1: person that knew nothing about the food and just tried

1118
00:50:42,392 --> 00:50:44,112
Speaker 1: to figure it out so they could mass market it.

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00:50:44,272 --> 00:50:46,232
Speaker 1: When I'm thinking like, Shouldn't it have been like a

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Speaker 1: Latino person that was already selling this?

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00:50:49,242 --> 00:50:50,642
Speaker 2: That's a chemist or something.

1122
00:50:50,682 --> 00:50:50,882
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:50:51,362 --> 00:50:52,822
Speaker 2: So, which that's kind of like us.

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00:50:53,342 --> 00:50:53,542
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what we're doing. We have no idea.

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00:50:55,522 --> 00:50:56,642
Speaker 1: We're just in the lab right now.

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00:50:56,762 --> 00:50:59,502
Speaker 2: We're in the lab making something for you to dip

1128
00:50:59,542 --> 00:51:03,732
Speaker 2: your ears in. That's weird. Thanks for being a part.

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00:51:03,952 --> 00:51:07,092
Speaker 1: No, that's decreasing the spice. And when you do find

1130
00:51:07,112 --> 00:51:10,152
Speaker 1: out how they like, and they use some chemical compound

1131
00:51:10,232 --> 00:51:10,832
Speaker 1: to take.

1132
00:51:10,652 --> 00:51:12,562
Speaker 2: The spiciness out of it or whatever, you're like, well, that's.

1133
00:51:13,372 --> 00:51:15,092
Speaker 1: It's no wonder we're having so many health issues.

1134
00:51:15,192 --> 00:51:18,372
Speaker 2: I saw a thing on TikTok that's terrified me. And

1135
00:51:18,412 --> 00:51:21,362
Speaker 2: it was basically that somebody says that the food companies

1136
00:51:21,422 --> 00:51:25,102
Speaker 2: now are trying to find a way because the GLP

1137
00:51:25,242 --> 00:51:28,242
Speaker 2: ones are out in the, you know, the, those impacts

1138
00:51:28,302 --> 00:51:30,022
Speaker 2: and the thing, so many people are on these shots

1139
00:51:30,102 --> 00:51:32,062
Speaker 2: and it makes you feel less hungry and it makes

1140
00:51:32,082 --> 00:51:37,602
Speaker 2: you crave salty and sweet snacks less. And so they're

1141
00:51:37,682 --> 00:51:42,112
Speaker 2: trying to put chemicals in the food to, counteract those

1142
00:51:42,552 --> 00:51:45,552
Speaker 2: basically to defeat the glp-1 wow to make them more

1143
00:51:45,592 --> 00:51:47,752
Speaker 2: addictive wow what.

1144
00:51:47,672 --> 00:51:49,632
Speaker 1: About the people who are on our glp-1s they're just

1145
00:51:49,652 --> 00:51:52,892
Speaker 1: gonna like go literally hog wild over this why.

1146
00:51:52,752 --> 00:51:54,892
Speaker 2: Not make a chip that has the glp-1 in it.

1147
00:51:55,542 --> 00:51:57,082
Speaker 1: Like i ate it but i don't want any more

1148
00:51:57,322 --> 00:51:58,462
Speaker 1: yes that's.

1149
00:51:58,322 --> 00:52:00,222
Speaker 2: You eat one you can't eat just one remember the

1150
00:52:00,262 --> 00:52:03,272
Speaker 2: old can't eat just one lay's potato chip It's just

1151
00:52:03,292 --> 00:52:05,692
Speaker 2: a big bag of air with one chip. One chip.

1152
00:52:05,792 --> 00:52:06,372
Speaker 2: It's a GLP-1.

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Speaker 1: And you charge much more money for it because even

1154
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Speaker 1: though you're not getting as many chips, you're living longer.

1155
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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00:52:13,392 --> 00:52:17,392
Speaker 1: You're selling life, Johnny. You're not selling chips. Guys, that's

1157
00:52:17,412 --> 00:52:20,592
Speaker 1: what we're selling here. Technically, we're not selling anything. And

1158
00:52:20,612 --> 00:52:23,632
Speaker 1: to be clear, just so you guys know, when you

1159
00:52:23,652 --> 00:52:25,832
Speaker 1: do all these things, Johnny and John aren't making money.

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00:52:26,242 --> 00:52:28,762
Speaker 2: Really anything well we do it for the love it

1161
00:52:28,802 --> 00:52:31,722
Speaker 2: goes back in we're basically county commissioners yeah.

1162
00:52:31,602 --> 00:52:34,252
Speaker 1: Yeah like maybe in fact I didn't even pay for

1163
00:52:34,272 --> 00:52:37,032
Speaker 1: this screen right here behind us if you're watching on

1164
00:52:37,052 --> 00:52:39,892
Speaker 1: YouTube where could they even see our YouTube videos they could.

1165
00:52:39,792 --> 00:52:45,532
Speaker 2: Go to youtube.com no they could go to talkaboutthatpodcast.com has

1166
00:52:45,552 --> 00:52:47,412
Speaker 2: all the YouTube videos and you can from there you

1167
00:52:47,432 --> 00:52:49,492
Speaker 2: can go to our account subscribe to our YouTube account though.

1168
00:52:49,412 --> 00:52:50,872
Speaker 1: We should start doing that like guys if you want

1169
00:52:50,892 --> 00:52:54,972
Speaker 1: to hear more just go to google that's g-o-o-g-l-e dot com.

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00:52:54,732 --> 00:52:57,832
Speaker 2: Type in our names yeah Yeah. Interesting. Do you ever

1171
00:52:57,852 --> 00:53:02,892
Speaker 2: Google yourself? It's a dangerous game. I have, because I

1172
00:53:02,912 --> 00:53:05,011
Speaker 2: want to see if it's the other John Driver or not. Yeah.

1173
00:53:06,292 --> 00:53:08,812
Speaker 1: But I think I come up on more websites. But

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Speaker 1: to my defense, or his defense, he's a Mennonite.

1175
00:53:12,712 --> 00:53:14,232
Speaker 2: Oh, you mean the other guy? In South America, yeah. Yeah,

1176
00:53:14,272 --> 00:53:15,252
Speaker 2: you got the similar name.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, I think it.

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Speaker 2: He's your bizarro John. He's the mortal enemy. He's like

1179
00:53:20,402 --> 00:53:20,782
Speaker 2: a missionary.

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00:53:20,802 --> 00:53:23,322
Speaker 1: He's doing incredible work, and he's writing on the atonement

1181
00:53:23,362 --> 00:53:26,022
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm up here... What are we doing?

1182
00:53:26,042 --> 00:53:27,502
Speaker 2: Whatever it is that we're doing here. What are we

1183
00:53:27,522 --> 00:53:30,221
Speaker 2: doing anyway? Oh, my goodness. He wishes he were us, though,

1184
00:53:30,282 --> 00:53:30,542
Speaker 2: doesn't he?

1185
00:53:30,542 --> 00:53:30,922
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1186
00:53:30,922 --> 00:53:33,642
Speaker 2: Do you think he hate listens? No, I think he's like,

1187
00:53:34,162 --> 00:53:36,822
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I'm the better John Driver. He's helping people.

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00:53:39,132 --> 00:53:40,451
Speaker 1: On that note, thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the time you gave us today.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it again next week here on Talk About That.