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Colossians two, verse six says, So then, 18 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: just as you received Christ Jesus's Lord, continue to live 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: your lives in Him, rooted and built up in him. 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: Amen. Now let's roll. 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Welcome back into the Built Different podcast is 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: always all be your host today, doctor Zach Clinton, joined 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: by my dad, my best friend, my mentor, my coach, 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: all of the above. President of the AACC, Director of 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: the Center for Human Flourishing Here at Liberty university. Dad, 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining me to I've getting to 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: do this together and can't wait to talk to Chad 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: Rob Show. I know Chad is in the house. Chad 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: is a former Force recomm Marene. On top of that, 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: he's a best selling author. He's the founder of the 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: Muddy Oaks Foundation. He's a PTSD survivor, he's an MMA champion. 32 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: He's also a leader of humanitarian rescue missions. He's all 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: over the place, all over the news, testifying, doing everything 34 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 2: you can imagine. But God is doing a special work 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: in and through Chad's life. Chad, just to begin, thanks 36 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: so much for joining us today. 37 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm not only excited to be on the show, 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: but for tonight at a night gonna speak to thousands 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: of man I'm very grateful to. 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: Be We appreciate the friendship, seriously, it's amazing what we Hey, 41 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 5: all the conversations we've had, Chad, but what God's doing, 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 5: it's just insane. You were here ignite before, Yes, blew 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 5: this place up. Literally, I mean you brought in a 44 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 5: special guest. Oh yeah, you remember that, yes, yes, And 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 5: and it was it was a moment. It was a 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: moment because he was important to you in Afghanistan. 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 4: Very here's my not only my interpreter on teammate, but 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: he's my friend. 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here right now because it was these and. 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: Now we're back right on the precipice of what I 51 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: believe God is going to do something incredible. In this room, 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: forty five hundred men sold out crowd Ignitement's impact weekend Lynchburg, Virginia, 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: Thomas or a Baptist church, and uh, there's a lot 54 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: of excitement. 55 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: There's a lot of buzz. 56 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: I've already seen so many men that I'm just familiar 57 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: faces from the years, over the past ten fifteen years, 58 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: coming to this very event. They cannot wait for what 59 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: God's going to do. But what I can't wait for 60 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: is we just sat down with Bradley Geary, I am 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: yet to meet, but I can't wait to meet Tommy Waller. 62 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: But then yourself, you're gonna be leading in America. Two 63 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: fifty Heroes panel for us tonight and our theme is 64 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: Forged through the Fire, Chad. So when you think about 65 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: getting out there speaking to some of the greatest leaders 66 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: and patriots that have ever walked the face of this earth, 67 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: I want to hear just what is God doing and 68 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: in through you? 69 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: And what do you really want to portray to these men? 70 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: Well, I mean when you and I spoke about, you 71 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 4: know what we're gonna do in this panel, Brad and 72 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: Tommy were top of my list, and I'm glad they 73 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 4: were both available and able to be here because we 74 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 4: have some great warriors in America, you know, and we 75 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: have great warriors out there right now defending our nation 76 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 4: and protecting people around the world. Can't protect themselves, but 77 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 4: when we saw that leaders like I think a man 78 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: like Brad Gary and Tommy Waller, these are incredible leaders, 79 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: both of them Special Operations Community one from who would 80 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: let us squadron let a squadron at Seal Team six 81 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: there was a commander of buds producing you know, next 82 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: generation of Navy seals. And then Tommy Waller who was 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: a Force Riecan Patune commander and company commander. 84 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: Both these guys let in combat. Both these guys have. 85 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: Had big wins, big losses, you know, lost men and 86 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: uh beyond that have have persevered and we you talk 87 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: about forge through the fire. They've been through the fire 88 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: and UH and they've led others through the fire and 89 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: so there's so many lessons that can be learned from 90 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: warriors like that, from the experience they have into the 91 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 4: culture of manhood. And so when you gave me an 92 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: opportunity to do that, I'm like, these are the guys, 93 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: and we're going to have just a phenomenal These are 94 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 4: my friends, and U i'd have this conversation around campfire 95 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: with them, but we're gonna have a conversation here in stage, 96 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: in front of forty five hundred men the night, and uh, 97 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: and here would these guys think about when it comes 98 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: to going through the fire, struggles, hardships, brotherhood, and where 99 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: faith ties into all of that, because where all those 100 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: things connect is where true resilience come from. 101 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: I want to dive into your story here for a moment, 102 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: because you're somebody who's gone through some stuff in your life. 103 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: You are a leader of your own, but you faced 104 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: the surgery. I know, I know you've gone seriously lost 105 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: to toe. I got a pig sure of that. Man. 106 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: I can't even imagine, seriously. 107 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 4: Seriously inside this shoe is still bleeding, bleeding foot goodness, No. 108 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: Don't right, But in reality, Uh, you've gone through You've 109 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: gone through a lot of stuff and a lot of 110 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: different facets of life. And you know Job twenty three 111 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: ten is our theme verse this weekend. But he knows 112 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: the way that I take it. When he has tested me, 113 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: I will come forth as gold. But that doesn't mean 114 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: that the suffering is going to be easier, it's going 115 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: to be comfortable. I love for you to just take 116 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: us into some moments of just suffering through different seasons 117 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: maybe of your life. 118 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: I mean my life is it seems to continue to 119 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 4: be a life of hardship and struggle and and and 120 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 4: uh even in a season right now. You know, I'm 121 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: in a season right now of hardship. So through those man, 122 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: I I've I've continued to learn so many lessons and uh, 123 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 4: you know I could run from from God because of it, 124 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: or could lean in and uh easy to doude. 125 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: And it has been in historically in my life. 126 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: It feels easy, but the results, Yeah, but there has 127 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: been a seasons in my life where I ran from 128 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: God in those hardships. And now I'm being a season 129 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: of my life to my seasons. I'm in a season 130 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: of my life where for the last sixteen years, when 131 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: the hardship comes, I maybe lane on my creator and 132 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: the brotherhoods that the brotherhood that God's allowed me to 133 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: be a part of in the truth of His word, 134 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: that I didn't have before. And so my response to 135 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: those hardships has been much different than the back half 136 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: of my life. As far as the first half of 137 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: my life. But I grew up in a very dysfunctional 138 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 4: home with a you know where not only like physical 139 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: abuse was present, but abandonment, lost, the lost a sibling, lost, 140 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: a brother who was killed when I was fourteen, he 141 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 4: was fifteen. And then lived alone from fifteen years old 142 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: without my you know a father or mother, and lived 143 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: with my older sister. Going to the Marine Corps seventeen 144 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 4: years old, being in special operations, becoming a fore Street 145 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: come Ragne was a tough journey for me. And uh, 146 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 4: you know, some ups and downs in that journey. And 147 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 4: then I always like dealt with my whole like service 148 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: just because of where I came from. And I think 149 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: I still battle with this a lot, even in ministry 150 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: like today. This is kind of a posture syndrome, like 151 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: not good enough having approved myself and and uh, and 152 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: then you know, not eleven happens. I ended up in Afghanistan, 153 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: major losses, big wins, major losses in Afghanistan. Spent a 154 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 4: lot of time alone because of my job as an AFO, 155 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: and then the isolation of that job really got to me. 156 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: And then, uh, you. 157 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: Know, in my book, Saving Disease is redacted, so I 158 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: can't say the location, but in afore in a in 159 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: a neighboring country to Afghanistan, in a singleton capacity, working 160 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: by myself, have a compromise and operation get abducted by 161 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: foreign intelligence agency, and the wheels just flew off for me. 162 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: And and uh, and the job that the only thing 163 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 4: I thought I had was this job. I didentity was 164 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: totally tied in this This work was taken away from 165 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: me through anxiety, depression, panic attack, debilitating panic attacks, and 166 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: it just you know led me to a three year 167 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: downward spiral which was masked and the success of the 168 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: rebound of you know, fighting and professional fighting and win 169 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: a world championship and being the rank number six in 170 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: the world and as an m A fighter and all 171 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: these things that I hid behind that. But the result 172 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: of that was the catastrophic, like rock bottom of separating 173 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: from my family and having a suicide attempt in twenty 174 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: ten and you know, some incredible people came around me. 175 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: My wife and a mentor ended up being a mentor. 176 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: In fact, that Steve Toath, who's just just beat Dan 177 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: Crenshaf of the congressional seat in Texas at the time. 178 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 4: He was an elder and called at the church and 179 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 4: a owner of a small pool business, and he led 180 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: me their relationship with Jesus and discipled me for a 181 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 4: year and helped me understand the life that I was 182 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: created to live and how to intentionally live that life out. 183 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 4: And through that process of restoration and finding hope, God 184 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 4: just restored a new purpose in me and put a 185 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: deep burden of my heart to pay that forward. And 186 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: that was That was sixty sixteen years ago. And since 187 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: then I've just been leaning into, you know, the burdens 188 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: that guys put on my heart to to help others, 189 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: to pay that forward to others. And and we started 190 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: Madioaks Foundation, which the aac C. I always say this 191 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: every time I can, was such a big influence for 192 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: me because I had no idea guy was burdened my 193 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 4: heart to help veterans. I knew it was done for me, 194 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: but I couldn't figure out the PTSD piece because even 195 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: my even all the secular consulars that I went to, 196 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: they couldn't explain what PTSD was and search franchures and 197 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: only place I found the answers was understanding the creation 198 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: perspective of PTSD and that was through the AACC's you know, 199 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: Combat Combat Care and Trauma program. And I got certified 200 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 4: through the program to be a Biblical pastoral Biblical consular 201 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: through that and took that course and it really helped 202 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 4: me equip this curriculum we built and since then and 203 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: we've we've served, we've spoken over half a million troops 204 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: based around the world. At Mighty Oaks we've had seven thousand, 205 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 4: over seven thousand, but they're resident program and between between 206 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: the veterans space, first responder space, in the humanitarian space, 207 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: because I moved into doing humanitarian rescue work again as 208 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: well with a lot of special veterans from Special Operations community. 209 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: We've raised over one hundred million dollars in the last 210 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: ten years. I served so many people. We led rescues 211 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: in places like Afghanistan, Ukraine and right now one of 212 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 4: our you know ilumni and I'm team members. I'm on 213 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: the board of Hero's Humanity. They're out right now as 214 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 4: we sit here, moving Americans out of Middle Eastern countries 215 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 4: with Iranian war. And I've been working on that all week, yes, 216 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 4: and been on the news helping get support for hero 217 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: of Humanity and and and inframidy Oaks and yeah. So 218 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 4: it's it's been incredible, incredible journey. But man, to answer 219 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: your question, like life life uh in this broken world 220 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: is is lots of highs and lots of lows. 221 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 5: Uh. And we're not going to get around there to 222 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 5: us about resilience. It's kind of like wired into your DNA, 223 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 5: you know that. And the God factor in the midst 224 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 5: of all of it. You know, there's a bunch of 225 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 5: guys going to be showing up tonight. A lot of 226 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 5: them are in the throes of a nightmare themselves. You 227 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 5: know that they have their own battles. 228 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: What resilience is just like having a relationship with chrisis 229 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: is it's not an exemption from harship saying when I 230 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: face hardship that I'm going to bounce back, I'm gonna 231 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: I'm going to perseverere through. 232 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: That's resilience. Resilience. 233 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people think, oh, that guy's 234 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: really resilient. Or that person's that's a strong believer. 235 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: They're not. 236 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: You have this relationship with Christ, You're not gonna you're 237 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: not gonna face hardship. No, that's that's a lie because 238 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 4: I believe that's a lie of the enemy. Because if 239 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 4: you believe that, then when you face hardship, you become hopeless, 240 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: right because you don't expect it. But we should know, 241 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 4: like every every character in the Bible that I respect 242 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: and see that they've all been through like tremendous a 243 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: month of hardships. But they've demonstrated the resilience to get 244 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: through it. And and there's lots of things that you 245 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: have to I say lots of things, several components you 246 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 4: have to have to be resilient, and you know if 247 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: it's one of them. 248 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: But we need to be you know, mentally tough. 249 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: We have to have a good perspective, inform ourselves of 250 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 4: the world that we live in and a culture we 251 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: live in. And the things we're gonna do is be 252 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 4: you got to be aware of your surroundings. Physically, I 253 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: think you physically need to be healthy to be resilient. 254 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: Take care of your body. I give us one body, 255 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 4: we take care of it. Socially, you got to surround 256 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 4: yourself with the right people. You can't pick what you 257 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: work with or your family is, but you can certainly 258 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: pick who you let influence your life. And then and 259 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: then spiritually, that's that strong spiritual foundation through a relationship 260 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: with Jesus and and intentionally living the life that God 261 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 4: created us to live by aligning our life, says word 262 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 4: those the application of those four pillars is where we 263 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: get true resilience and uh and and I believe, you know, 264 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: when I would say that all all of them are 265 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 4: required holistically, all of them are required. I do believe 266 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 4: that if I only had to pick one, it would 267 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: be my faith because I could lose my health. I could, 268 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: I could, I could lose my mind, I could lose 269 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: my friends. But if I still have Jesus have everything 270 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: I need. Uh And So that's why I believe that that's, 271 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: you know, the most important pillar for me. Three experiences 272 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: I have and not only experience I personally I have had, 273 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: but through experience of working with tens of thousands of 274 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: warriors through Madioka. 275 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 5: I'm just thinking, Chad, a lot of people think sounds soft, 276 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Wait a second, I thought 277 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: he's an MMA guy, tough guy Afghanistan. He's done all 278 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 5: this stuff, and he comes back and says Jesus. They're 279 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 5: probably thinking, I don't know what's happening. What's happened to him? 280 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 5: What they probably don't understand Chad is in those dark 281 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 5: places when all seemed lost. It wasn't about the darkness, 282 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 5: even though it's really about the light. If you don't 283 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 5: have hope, honest to God, if you don't have hope, 284 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 5: what do you have? 285 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 3: What do you hold? What are you holding on to? 286 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to stop this right there and jump in 287 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: to say you're listening to build different I'm Zach Clinton. 288 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: We need to break for a brief message from our sponsors. 289 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: I'll be back with our guests to keep the conversation flowing. 290 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: Right after this, you're listening to life audio. 291 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 4: You know, I get, I get really Oh. I used 292 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: to feel the same way I used to. There was 293 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: a moment in my life when I went to Afghanistan 294 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 4: and and and I had been exposed to faith. I 295 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 4: claimed to be a Christian where Christian was stamped to 296 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 4: my dog tag. But now I'm presented with I'm going 297 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: to be in a war zone. The bad guys are 298 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: going to try to kill me. I'm going to try 299 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: to kill them. That's what's about to happen. Like is 300 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: there room in my life right now to be this 301 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: person of faith? And I felt like I had to 302 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: choose between masculinity and Christianity, like being the tough guy 303 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: or being the person of faith. And I didn't know 304 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: those two could coexist. So I felt like I had 305 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: to choose. So I put faith on a shelf and 306 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: I chose to be a warrior. And that left a 307 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: giant hole inside of my heart that I fell with 308 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: hate and rage and anger binness, and and because of that, 309 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 4: I wasn't a resilient warrior, and I fell. But the 310 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: guys who I seen sustain the hardships of war were 311 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: the ones that understood that not only can they co exist, 312 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: but we were designed for them to co exist. The 313 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: greatest warriors are seen in this life in the in 314 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: the battlefields of our homes or the battlefields of combat, 315 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 4: or MENI fait, men like Brad Gary who went to 316 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: war with faith in their heart before and made the 317 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: decision to be a man of God. The toughest guys 318 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: I know, or men of faith, and there's a carkature, uh, 319 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: this fake projection of who Jesus was and who man 320 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 4: of faith was. You pick up a book the Bible 321 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 4: or other books of history and see the most ruthless, 322 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: violent capable dudes in the battlefield of our history haven't 323 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: been a faith And on both sides, by the way, 324 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 4: like even even faith's out of the pit of hell. 325 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: The most violent, like the Taliban you want to talk about, 326 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: like people committed to fight to the end, like religious 327 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 4: fanatic Taliban. 328 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: Their you're saying literally, yeah, going there. 329 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: They're not sissies, like they're demonically possessing their their you know, 330 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: they're uh so far off from the t of what 331 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: they believe in their and their God. 332 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: But they are. 333 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: They are warriors, they're tough because their spiritual resilancy is 334 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: so strong. 335 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: Would they believe? 336 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: But the same thing on the on the Christian side, 337 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 4: I mean, look at Man David and his Mighty Man. 338 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: Those guys were in sissies. Jesus wasn't as sissy, by 339 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: the way. 340 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: Jesus got backed in a corner, back to the corner 341 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: of a cliff, and his community was going to push 342 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: him off, and somehow the Bible doesn't say how he 343 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: walked through that crowd. No one threw him off that 344 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: cliff Becau. He's probably sitting there with his big carpenter 345 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: pop eye forearms and was like no one, no one 346 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: put their hand on him because he was intimidating dude. 347 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, he was. He was a man. 348 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 4: He wasn't a you know, he wasn't He didn't have 349 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: the now for sassooon and floy hair and and and. 350 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: White robe black we seeing some of these pictures. 351 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: He was. 352 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: He was a man. 353 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: He's a man. 354 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chat, I want to talk to you about this 355 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: because I'm thinking about going over in war. In combat, 356 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: you see things that people can't even dream up. You 357 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: see evil and just heinous acts of it on a 358 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: daily basis, where it's like, how can you begin to 359 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: even let somebody in? Because at the end of the day, 360 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: it's you, in a sense versus the enemy, it's you 361 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: versus the world. 362 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: Spiritual warfare is very real. 363 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: But I'm thinking about somebody that comes from a wounded background, 364 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: somebody who fears abandonment, somebody who has a lot of 365 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: challenge that they've gone up against in life. And for 366 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: a lot of men, they suffer in silence, they struggle 367 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: in loneliness. I think about those that come back alone alone, 368 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: they bring war back home with them with PTSD and 369 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: all these things, and they're afraid of letting people in 370 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: because man, there just wasn't many people they could trust overseas. 371 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, where do we begin. Where do men 372 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: begin to recognize that you have to let people in. 373 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: Everybody needs a battle, buddy, I think we need friends 374 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: for the fire. Why is that so significant to really click. 375 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: For the way back? I mean that's like day one. 376 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 377 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think men believe that, you know, 378 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 4: it's better to do it alone. But not only not 379 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 4: only were we we are not supposed to do alone, 380 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 4: but we don't have to do it alone. Yeah, like 381 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 4: we were created to be in community. 382 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 383 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: And uh. 384 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: And the greatest, the greatest chain breaker that I've seen 385 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 4: in the Ministry of Mighty Oaks, these guys that are 386 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 4: dealing with tremendous amount of hurt and PTSD and anxiety 387 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 4: and depression and just hopelessness. The biggest chambreaker I've seen 388 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 4: is is when we see guys exercise vulnerability and transparency 389 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: and so one of our methodologies at Mighty Oaks is 390 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 4: we don't ask guys to do that, we demonstrate it. 391 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: One of the first things they'll get when they show 392 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: up there is someone from a previous class is going 393 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: to stand in front of them and give the most vulnerable, raw, 394 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: transparent testimony they probably ever heard, and they're like shocked 395 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: by it that someone would be that raw. But we 396 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: create an environment that that's we create an environment in 397 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 4: that intensive week that they have that. 398 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: They by the by day two or three or four. 399 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: They like almost feel like out of place if they're 400 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: not participating, because because every one of our leaders in 401 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 4: our program get up and they just tear the veil 402 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 4: back to their to the scars of their heart and 403 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 4: share it with these guys they are strangers and become 404 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: so bonded and so close and once they realize that 405 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: everything I think Stu Weber says this in this book 406 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 4: Tender Word, everything that I struggle with is in the 407 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: heart of every man. You know, uh that we all 408 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 4: or afflicted with the same wounds of this of this 409 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: world and I'm not alone in it. Then the walls 410 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 4: come down to be to be transparent yourself and share 411 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: and open One of the things I get a lot 412 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 4: from people is like, I have this veteran of my community, 413 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 4: how do a game and talk to me, How do 414 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 4: a game and tell me what they struggle with? I 415 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 4: want to help them, And a lot of times it's 416 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: like it's the opposite. You're looking. You're looking to go 417 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: to them and get them to tell you what they're 418 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 4: dealing with. How about you sit down, take them for 419 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 4: a cup of coffee and sit down across from him 420 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 4: and tell them by the time you struggle, tell them 421 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: by time you fail, tell them by the time that 422 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 4: you hurt. 423 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 3: Bodels. 424 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 4: If you want, if you want transparency and vulnerability from someone, 425 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: demonstrate it. Demonstrate it and and usually it's replicated. And 426 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 4: that brotherhood as that we talked about, man, that's we're 427 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: created for that. 428 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: We were created. We're not created to be alone, and 429 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: we don't, but we don't have to be. 430 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: I'm there for you. 431 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: I got your back, and that's what you gut. 432 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: That's why I love you guys so much, because that's 433 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 4: one of the things that you guys. Career eight and 434 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 4: the programs that the ac CC puts out, it's just 435 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: the ability to have these groups and these lesson plans 436 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 4: and these resources that churches could come together and in 437 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 4: the groups, all the different things that people deal with 438 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: come together and do solve these problems together. 439 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: Interestingly enough chad to encourage one another somehow. 440 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 5: It speaks life, it speaks power, It speaks courage into 441 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: someone else. When you believe somebody's got your back, let's 442 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 5: flip it on its head. And you don't think coach 443 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 5: has your back. You're in a bad You're in a 444 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 5: bad spot. Yeah, you know, I'm serious. What happens if 445 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 5: the coach turns us back on you the way? 446 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 447 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 5: You feel well, I'm just yeah. And what I'm thinking 448 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 5: about is in the pains of life. Yea, though I 449 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 5: walk through the valley the shadow of death, Thou art 450 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 5: with me? Think about this in the context of faith. 451 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 5: I want to come back to this faith factor because 452 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 5: it really it's a mesmerize in conversation for me. You, hey, 453 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 5: why is my soul cast down? 454 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: Hope? Thou in God? You know, God's in the midst 455 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: of it. 456 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 5: At alohemas our refuge in a strike, a present help 457 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 5: in the time of trouble, when life's not the way 458 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 5: it's supposed to be. 459 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 3: Therefore, we won't fear though the earth. 460 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 5: Be removed in the mountains, be cast into the depths 461 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 5: of the sea, no matter what happens. All this metaphoric 462 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 5: language just describing every coamity that could happen. He is 463 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 5: in the midst of it. He's in the midst of it. 464 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 5: He's in the midst of it. He's in the midst 465 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 5: of it. Therefore, what be still know that I'm God? 466 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 5: In other words, when there were one hundred and eighty 467 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 5: five thousand Assyrians going to wipe out what ten thousand Israelites, 468 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 5: they stood amazed at the good work of God caused 469 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 5: everything wiped him out. I'm just thinking, Chad, as I 470 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 5: look at you and I think about the dark places 471 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 5: somewhere somewhere, someone, somehow, something took you to that place. 472 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 5: I'm just thinking about the people who are listening. You 473 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 5: hear what I'm saying. 474 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: I mean there. That's why faith has become so powerful 475 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: in the research. 476 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 5: When you look at the Global Flourishing Study, when you 477 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 5: look at all the quote meta analysis of all these 478 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 5: quote factors related to mental health, and we talk a 479 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 5: lot about all that because it all ties back to 480 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 5: being resilient. You know, how do you face all this stuff. 481 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 5: Faith is at the heart of it. Why, Because ultimately 482 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 5: it really is about trusting my well being into the 483 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 5: hands of someone else who I actually believe has my 484 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 5: best interests at heart. And without faith, it's impossible to 485 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 5: please God. And so no wonder I marvel a secretary. 486 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 5: Hegseeth and he's just like bold, you know, I mean, 487 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: just raw, straight up, just pouring God's stuff out. You 488 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 5: know why, because I think he believes it. You get 489 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. 490 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: Ch had that peace for you. 491 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 5: And when I look at you and you and I've 492 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 5: had a lot of conversations together, and I think about 493 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 5: the roads you've been on, and I think about that 494 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 5: light piece, I just like that. 495 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: I like that, I see that. It's like I see 496 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: you hold on to it, keep fighting a good fight. 497 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: And we would we certainly can't stop now. Too too 498 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 4: much at steak, too much at stake much at steak. 499 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: What I wanted to chat with you about, Chad, just 500 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: going off of what Dad just mentioned, this idea of faith, 501 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: the faith factor, right, that faith fuels, faith wins, faith 502 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: actually triggers this idea of resilience in general. I'm just 503 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: thinking about you speaking at the Marine two fifty with 504 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: the Vice President of the United States JD. Vance Secretary 505 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: of War Pete hag Seth, and then yourself, three three 506 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: men of faith who truly are unashamed of their faith 507 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: in Christ getting up there in front of the entire 508 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: Marine Corps and being able to present I just want 509 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: to know, like, what is God doing in the branches 510 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: of military right now? 511 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: I'd love to hear from your perspective. 512 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 4: Well, I've spoken to you probably close to half main 513 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: or maybe even more over half manion activity of service members, 514 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: And of all the events I've done, that was the 515 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 4: most amazing, right of course, I mean, of course, they 516 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: flew me up on the board somewhere, they flew me 517 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: in a helicopter like I flew in a seahawk from 518 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 4: like ship to ship to speak to marines and sailors. 519 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: And then the culminating event was this. 520 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: Big exercise where they showed the entire strength and ability 521 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: of the Navy and the Marine Corps to do amphibious landing. 522 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: It was air. 523 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: I mean, this thing was the most most powerful demonstration 524 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: of Naval Marine Corps strength that you can imagine. And 525 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 4: then the colminating event was a speaking event in twenty 526 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 4: five thousand Marines and Sailors on Delmore Beach and Jocko speaks, 527 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: I speak, then Secretary Seth and the Vice president. But 528 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: you know, when you prepare for a speech like that, 529 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 4: you want you want to get down, So a lot 530 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 4: of rehearsal, a lot of preparing, like you know, I got, 531 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 4: I got my ten minutes to like to motivate these marines. 532 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: And of all the things I said, uh, and I was, 533 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 4: I was, well, I'm critical of myself, but that way, 534 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 4: I was like really happy with speech. Of all the 535 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 4: things I said, the biggest reaction I got was when 536 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: I paused to profess my faith in Jesus, and those 537 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 4: marines went nuts really and uh and to where you know, 538 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: you kind of when you're preparing it, when you over 539 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 4: prepare for a speech like that, you kind of know 540 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: you've spoken. 541 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: You guys spoken a lot. 542 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 4: You know when you're going to get the last you know, 543 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: you know when you get the cheers, so you already 544 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 4: kind of program in your pauses. I didn't expect that reaction, 545 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: and it took me back, like and I thought, this 546 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: is amazing, Like these are twenty five thousand young most 547 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 4: of these guys are below twenty five years old, eighteen 548 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: twenty five years old war fighters. And of all the 549 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: things I said to motivate them, the biggest response I 550 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: got was professing my faith in Jesus and and I 551 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 4: when I got off the stage, I went to Brad 552 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 4: was there and Tommy was there, and I'm like, something shifted, 553 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 4: Like there's there's a shift. And that's what when your 554 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 4: leadership does you know? I mean, it's good versus evil. 555 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: You're not picking by the way, there's no Republican democrat 556 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 4: and servant of liberal anymore. This is good versus evil 557 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 4: like you, and and and people will realizing they have 558 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: to pick a side. People have realized they have to 559 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: pick aside. I think the left, the uh in, the 560 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: godless people in America and around the world, they've overplayed 561 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 4: their hand and exposed who they are. 562 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: And people feel like they have to pick aside. 563 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: And and and and thankfully people are picking a side 564 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 4: of righteousness and and and and that has really put 565 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 4: a light on on goodness. 566 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, though you know 567 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 5: this that anything that smacks of righteousness, of boldness, of 568 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 5: courage of character, especially that way all hell will come 569 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 5: against all health break. 570 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: This year, I have had to my spiritual warfare. 571 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: I have had, like I've been accused of, like being 572 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 4: a liar, being a fake, stealing money from not everything 573 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 4: that that a person in public position get everything Like 574 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 4: it's just like it's it's insane. The bigger the platform gets, 575 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 4: the bigger your voice gets. 576 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 5: It's crazy, sensational headlines, all kinds of bandages. 577 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 4: They don't care. Yeah, they don't care. There's no there's 578 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 4: no regard to us, true, like just like you know 579 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 4: and thankfully, like it's it's pretty easy. The tax that 580 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 4: I've had have been and other people weren't the same. 581 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: But for me, the tax ad were so ridiculous that 582 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 4: it it just kind of comes a ghost. 583 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 5: But you go back to what Zach was talking about, 584 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 5: you know, friends for the fire. I mean you can't 585 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 5: go to loone, you know, like it's none of sure 586 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 5: that good? 587 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: No, yeah, I'm not, I can't none of Yeah. 588 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: I mean, man, I am, I am so blessed to 589 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: be surrounded by such incredible people every day. Yeah, not 590 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: just professionally. Professionally yeah, because an important job. God's put 591 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: a heavy burden in my heart to do important work 592 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: and professionally need to be surrounded by you know, some 593 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: some world changers and kingdom builders and guys that are 594 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 4: smarter than me and and women that are more organized 595 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: than me, and all the things to make things happen. 596 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 4: But outside of that, personally like man like uh, you know, 597 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 4: not only is life hard, but being in ministry is hard. 598 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: Being in ministry and be super easy if went for people. 599 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 4: You guys know that, But but it's it's hard. It's 600 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 4: hard work. And uh and and and I need I 601 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: feel like I'm just I've recognized that any tremendous my 602 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: support to do this work well. And uh and I'm 603 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: the best I speak against all the time. But I'm 604 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: probably the best isolator there is. I think I think 605 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 4: if there was a world championship isolating, I could probably 606 00:28:59,760 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: win it. 607 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: And there's a scary thing. 608 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 5: Hell loves to get you alone, you know, like the 609 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 5: African lion, he separates his prey off from the pack. 610 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 5: Hell loves to get you alone. There's an old Jewish 611 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 5: proverb that says this, he who goes too far alone 612 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 5: goes mad. What's the one thing we were not made for? Aloneness? 613 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 5: It's not good that man be alone. So God help 614 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 5: us in the midst of this to stay anchored vertically 615 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 5: in our relationship with you and horizontally and some brothers 616 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 5: we'll call them a band of brothers or just for 617 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 5: a moment that keep us quote steady, encouraged, strengthened, purposeful 618 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 5: mission because the moment we drift, there's some bad boys 619 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 5: out there. Yes, there are the enemies out there. And 620 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 5: the Asian six says that day we don't wrestle against 621 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 5: flesh and blood too, but against principalities and powers and 622 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 5: spiritual wickedness and hy places. Therefore, what put on the 623 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 5: whole armor of God that you're able to withstand the 624 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 5: wiles of the evil one? Because you know what this 625 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 5: was the throwdown? 626 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: To stand? 627 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to stand yeah. 628 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: I think every man listening, every woman too. But I 629 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 4: want to speak to man like you. If you don't 630 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 4: know that you're in a war, you were in you 631 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 4: you're a bystander or victim. You are born into a war, 632 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: a spiritual war that came way before your eye, and 633 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 4: you're called to stand up and fighting it. And if 634 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: you're if you're going to be passively sitting aside, you're 635 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 4: going to be you know, it's. 636 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 3: A sad thing. 637 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 5: As a Chad, that peace out there is that going 638 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 5: to talk about it a lot. The Massive Men lived 639 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 5: in quiet lives of desperation. What happens is you get 640 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 5: lost in the in the in the stuff, and you 641 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 5: start medicating yourself and next thing you know, you lost five, 642 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 5: then you lose ten, and you know, maybe it's fifteen 643 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 5: years before you wake up. 644 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: You know, hell, reach you voices in that. 645 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, Hey, you know what, dude, Hey, the boys 646 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 5: down there at least they accept you who you are. 647 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: You know what, it's five o'clock somewhere, Go do it. 648 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: Man, And that's the thing that's the most damning. If 649 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 5: you will in this journey of manhood, you can go 650 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 5: there really easy. 651 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the old quote. Most men die at twenty six. 652 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: We just don't bury him until they're sixty two. And 653 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: so it's the same idea of helping men recognize. We've 654 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: talked about combat, Chad, We've talked about the significance of community, 655 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: but I kind of want to close with the note 656 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: on courage, because again, when the massive men leader live 657 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: with quiet lives of desperation, I believe that courage is contagious. 658 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: Billy Graham One said that courage is contagious because when 659 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: a brave man takes his stand, the spines of others 660 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: are often stiffened. When I look at Chadrowshaw and I 661 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: see you just continually everywhere that God has you, from 662 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: the media market to literally continuing to travel overseas in 663 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: the humanitarian and just rescue missions. To a man that 664 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: is just boldly helping people, rescuing them from PTSD at 665 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: Mighty Oak, somebody that God has commissioned for such a 666 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: time as this, what's the final word to men of 667 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: not just hope and not just encouragement, but of challenge 668 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: and a recommissioning to stand in the gap and be 669 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: the courageous leader God's called us to be. 670 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 1: I think. 671 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 4: Shay Richardson said that courage is not the absence of fears, 672 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 4: understanding that it's being scared, but understanding that something's more 673 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 4: important than I fear of moving forward anyway. And you know, 674 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: I hear a lot of stuff towards me, towards direction 675 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 4: towards me or our team. How brave we are and 676 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 4: how courageous we are. Man, I could tell you, like 677 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 4: Dennis Price and I you know, swimming across the Panja 678 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: River in Afghanistan, you know, back in twenty twenty one, 679 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 4: or or you know me working in at you know 680 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 4: in Afghanistan manasis, being out in the mountains by ourselves 681 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 4: for for you know, weeks and months at a time, 682 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: driving in a Taliban village, not not only without a gun, 683 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 4: but without a radio, or like in Ukraine going when 684 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: we went rescue being in Hall, like I remember, we 685 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: had you know, nine dudes like in the in the 686 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: in the in our safe house and sea spray puts 687 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 4: the picks of the phone. It's like, hey, Benjamin Hall 688 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 4: just got catastrophically wounded. His uh, his his Fox News 689 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 4: team is dead. 690 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 691 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 4: And and he's got a wife and two little girls 692 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 4: at home. If we the people in this room right 693 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 4: now don't go across the border and going to Kiev 694 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: while it's being attacked by the Russians, the Russians gonna 695 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 4: seize Kiv tonight. If the people in this room don't 696 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: say yes, go get him, he's gonna die and he 697 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 4: will never see his wife and kids again. And uh, 698 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 4: who wants to go? And every single man in that 699 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: room raised their hand and went across the border and 700 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 4: we got we got Benjamin Hall home to his his 701 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 4: wife and kids, and we recovered Pierre Uschski's body the 702 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 4: next day. Like every moment like that, These aren't guys 703 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 4: that we wasn't scared. Yeah, me included terrified at times, 704 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 4: uh and watching other guys knowing that they're by the way. 705 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 4: These are These aren't men that have like nothing to lose. 706 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 4: These are men with like wives and kids at home, 707 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: lives ahead of them, that are going to help people 708 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: they don't even know, never met before, sometimes countries not 709 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 4: their own. And so go back to that quote, like 710 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 4: courage is not the absence of fear, it's understanding something 711 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 4: is more important than that fear and then moving forward anyway. 712 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 4: The best example we have for that is Jesus at cavalry, 713 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 4: I mean in Yosemite. You see Jesus pacing back and 714 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 4: forth for an hour, falling in his face, tears like 715 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 4: a sweat, like drops of blood. He's asking God to 716 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 4: take this cup from him, like he is a man 717 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 4: facing something very difficult, very hard. Whether it was fear 718 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 4: or anxiety or anticipation, whatever it was that he was 719 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 4: dealing with. I believe it was all those things by 720 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 4: the way he demonstrated courage to the capacity to say that, yeah, 721 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: this is scary, but something is more important than his fear. 722 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 4: You me humanity and moving forward anyway. And we know, 723 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 4: if we're going to model our lives after Jesus, it's 724 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 4: not a better model to do that than that. I mean, 725 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 4: there's gonna be times in our life as men that 726 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 4: we have important things to do and they're scary and 727 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 4: they're terrifying, but something has to be more important. 728 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: A fear, because as men were required to move forward anyway. 729 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 5: Nothing more dangerous than a man on a serious mission. 730 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 5: You know that I felt impressed in my spirit to 731 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 5: say this, Chad, don't grow weary. 732 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 4: Vote and Paul, I'll say this to to the men 733 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 4: out there. There's nothing more dangerous than a man in 734 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: a mission. But there's also nothing more damaging and dangerous 735 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 4: to the world than a passive man. 736 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: Our world. 737 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 4: The reason our country in this world is in a 738 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 4: position weird right now, it's because of weak passive man 739 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: who's sitting by and not having that courage. 740 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 3: Santa Dura, thanks for being a fighter. 741 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 5: You know that I'll go back to that verse, don't 742 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 5: grow weary and well doing for indue season. You're gonna 743 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 5: reap a reward if you don't faint. In other words, 744 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 5: standing bold for Christ. It's all that matters in the end. Hey, 745 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 5: waiting to hear those words well done, good and faithful 746 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 5: servant just like their boom. Yes, sir, you know that's 747 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 5: what I love. I just love valor, I love strength, 748 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 5: I love patriotism. Seriously, I love people with purpose God's 749 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 5: mission doing that great thing. 750 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 3: Chat it matters. Yeah, hey, we salute you. We appreciate 751 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 3: your your good singing against your. 752 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 5: Consistency and your fight in the midst of the storms. Yes, 753 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 5: and not wait to see what God had up store. 754 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 2: I know for not just tonight at Ignite, but I 755 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: mean Ignite moving forward, advisory board member at Ignite. On 756 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: top of that, everything happening with aacc the helping our 757 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: heroes flourish campaign, There's so many things that we're gonna 758 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 2: lock arms with, and man, we just appreciate your courage, 759 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: We appreciate the way that you step into combat every day, 760 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: and we just want to continue to surround you with 761 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: the community of fellowship because faithful are the. 762 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 3: Wounds of a friend, man, and we're with you every 763 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 3: step of the. 764 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys friendship and if you're listening, like yes, 765 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: get onto the Ignite webs because we have them events 766 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 4: coming up. 767 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 3: Yes, Ignite Man dot Nette. 768 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 2: We have one March sixth and sorry, we have one 769 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: May sixteenth coming up in Michigan City in the UK 770 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 2: one you're speaking to that one. And then June twelfth 771 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: and thirteenth and Cantohio and you're speaking to that one too, 772 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: My friend cannot wait to have Chad with us. 773 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: Please be sure to join us. 774 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: If you're a man, or if you know a man, 775 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: you got a special man in your life, make sure 776 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: they're in the room again. Michigan City, Indiana, May sixteenth, 777 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: June twelfth and thirteenth, and Canton, Ohio. God's gonna do 778 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: something night. Ignite Men dot Night and Chad working our 779 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: audience go to find out more about you and also 780 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 2: to watch the Resilient Show. 781 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 4: The easiest place to find me on my Instagram. That's 782 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 4: the easiest place to kind of track it when I'm 783 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 4: doing every day, but chadrobyshow dot com and my website 784 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 4: as my website, and then the Resilient Show. We have 785 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 4: weekly episodes coming out and we can record. 786 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: One while we're here. 787 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: It's incredible with Brad and Brad and Tommy, Chad, my friend. 788 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us. 789 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: We love thank you, Thank you guys, appreciate your friendship. 790 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: Love you guys. 791 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: Everybody built it for audience. I just wanted to say 792 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us again. As Chad mentioned, 793 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 2: you were born into a war, right there is a 794 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 2: fight that you have to continue to step up for, 795 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: speak up or step into every day of your life. 796 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 3: But you don't have to do it alone. 797 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: Continue to find the those brothers, those sisters, the community necessary, 798 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 2: and then have the courage to stiffen the spine of others. 799 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 2: Live your life on mission for a purpose, with purpose 800 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: every single day. That being said, we love being a 801 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 2: part of your life. Thanks so much for joining us. 802 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.