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Speaker 1: Life audio.

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Speaker 2: Today, I'll talk about that John plays basketball against some

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Speaker 2: teenagers and finds out that George Lucas was making Star

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Speaker 2: Wars up as he went along. Meanwhile, I evict my

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Speaker 2: uninvited bird guests and complain about fast food prices like

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Speaker 2: an old man shouting at the clouds. Plus a conversation

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Speaker 2: about why negativity is so easy and why hope takes courage.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode is not sponsored by Oranges Now one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent Pulp, but first award from our actual.

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Speaker 3: Sponsor, Johnny. The long Dark Night of the Soul is over.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's over for you, John, but I'm still

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Speaker 2: in the middle of my Maybe travails.

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Speaker 1: Maybe overselling the episode a little bit, But travail's.

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Speaker 2: Is a word I wish had survived.

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Speaker 1: I think you just brought it back.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm bringing back travail's. Yea tribulation. Tribulations is

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Speaker 2: always associated with, like the end times, the tribulation, But

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Speaker 2: it tribulation. You're going through trials and tribulations, right, You

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Speaker 2: usually saw those together. You never saw tribulations without trials.

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Speaker 2: Now it's if you see tribulation by itself, it means you.

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Speaker 1: Know whatever, patology alone, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But travails. We got to get in back into travails.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you need to prevail over your trivails.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of y'all out here.

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Speaker 1: I thought of words of the day because now I

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Speaker 1: grew up. Sadie is. Sadie is, like, dude, I mean,

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Speaker 1: how many Bibles she has, and the kind of the

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Speaker 1: way her brain works is she will hyper focus. Right,

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Speaker 1: She's been hyper focused for months now, and she's like annotating.

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Speaker 1: She's she's gone through all four Gospels, the Book of Acts, Romans,

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Speaker 1: she's an Ecclesiastes, like she's going in and she's using

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Speaker 1: commentaries and writing notes and she color codes everything. She's

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Speaker 1: very artistic. And I was so I talk to her

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Speaker 1: about Bible translations and stuff. And I grew up reading

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Speaker 1: The New King James. Okay, my dad didn't want me to.

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Speaker 1: He wants to read the Living Bible. But I was

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Speaker 1: I was pretentious.

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Speaker 2: You were like, that's a paraphrase, Dad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, dad, I think I'll I think I

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Speaker 1: think I know, I'll take.

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Speaker 2: It and make a paraphrase and I'll preach that, right.

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Speaker 1: I got it from here, guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I know what he meant, and I.

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Speaker 1: Think that I think that my ministry speaks for itself

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Speaker 1: in terms of the results anyway, Yeah it does. But

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Speaker 1: New King James, I realized, gave me a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of words in my vocabulary that kids my age. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I used them all the time, but

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Speaker 1: like I realized, like you know, when I would read

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Speaker 1: other things I have, I still I will go to

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Speaker 1: this cache of words in my head that you only get,

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Speaker 1: like you perpitiation from the Bible. Yeah, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's the Bible or Nothing. Sure so, And that's the

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Speaker 1: title of our next podcast, the Bible or Nothing.

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Speaker 2: The Bible or Not. The Travail of two Men. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: you need to if you don't listen, if you fail

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Speaker 2: to plan, you plan to fail in your travails and

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Speaker 2: you won't prevail.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Come on now, am I right? I don't know? Seriously?

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Speaker 1: Am I right?

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Speaker 2: Seriously? I don't know if I'm right. You were at

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Speaker 2: camp last week. That's why we didn't have an episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was your fault this time. It wasn't my big travels.

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Speaker 1: It was my fault.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't I was here, I was home. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you come to camp?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I just didn't. It was like across

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Speaker 2: don't go to camp. Dude.

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Speaker 1: We were in a cabin that slept fifty two. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you tell me that wasn't perfectly made for you

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Speaker 1: to come bring your white.

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Speaker 2: Feels like a warehousing situation.

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Speaker 1: No, it was awesome. Everyone had their own bed, like

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Speaker 1: their own late queens. Well, I hope so at fifty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: We just spent the week hitting on the camp nurse creep,

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Speaker 2: What a Creep?

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Speaker 1: And writing She worked and I worked too, but sweet

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Speaker 2: I sure you got a lot done.

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Speaker 1: I was very productive.

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Speaker 2: Everything's about achievement with John. If you didn't know by now.

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Speaker 1: So Andrew came in one day. This was on your birthday.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Wor came in one day. I was in there working,

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Speaker 1: so I do, put your computer down, We're going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, you're like, it's been a while.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to get hurt again.

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Speaker 1: It's been a minute.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to hurt myself.

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Speaker 1: Because it has been about five years since I broke

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Speaker 1: I was saying the last time to play basketball, didn't

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Speaker 1: I think we played racketball, but I think I went

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did shoots ball that were old. But that's

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Speaker 1: So we're going to these outside courts in this really

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Speaker 2: You know, Like okay, yeah, it all came flooding back.

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Speaker 1: Didn't that That was crazy? All of a sudden, I

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Speaker 2: It was like we're not really good sandbagging.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, guys, well we'll shoot. It was

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Speaker 2: I mean, so they didn't say, hey, let's just do

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Speaker 2: they'll team up with each other. Well whatever. It was

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Speaker 1: They wanted to play us. I was like, dude, And

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Speaker 1: another Yeah, you know, so I said yes, and uh.

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Speaker 2: I heard you told me this story and because we

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Speaker 2: What peop don't understand about this is Andrew is fifty two.

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Speaker 1: Andrew is like top in the state.

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Speaker 2: He is in the best cardiovascular shape of his life.

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Speaker 1: Probably he's in the best cardiovascular shape of my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's quick, and so I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I also know Andrew short. He's also a post player.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't play outside. Yeah, he posts up on big

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Speaker 2: Yeah you said you guys went a long time without

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they're rooting for the old guys.

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Speaker 2: It's like, at some point Tom Brady became not a

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Speaker 2: He became aspirational. You go, he's running away from guys

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Speaker 2: go tom Brady. At some point Tom Brady. I rooted

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Speaker 1: We all couldn't stand He's not had a stood but

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Speaker 1: ice cream in thirty years.

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Speaker 2: You got a root for that guy.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that?

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Speaker 2: I said? It's in his biography. He eats avocado ice cream. Oh, come,

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Speaker 2: that's his treat. He eats like savory ice creams. His

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Speaker 1: Well I was. I was with it till the ice cream.

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Speaker 1: If I'm gonna live, I want to live.

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Speaker 2: I want to live.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, go ahead, So the teen family's rooting for you.

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Speaker 1: Long story short, we got to fourteen playing the fifteen.

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Speaker 1: We were up and they too late for it to

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Speaker 1: mean could move, but I couldn't shoot. I can't get

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Speaker 1: hitting all these threes with Andrew bought a girl's ball.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, So it was twenty eight point five. So

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, wonder I could hit shots. You

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Speaker 1: know that fill. Oh they're playing with different now we're

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Speaker 1: it's all lamps for us. Like I can't shoot anymore.

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Speaker 1: I cannot because you can't just go eight years.

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Speaker 2: It's like if you ever played with one of those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my it's my segment. We call what they

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Speaker 2: the same kind of thing. It's like it's so easy,

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Speaker 2: and I mean, and I have a lot of friends

436
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Speaker 2: who are like we get together and we gossip and whatever.

437
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Speaker 2: It's like the whole what's the great quote about average minds?

438
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Speaker 2: Average minds discuss h Evan, it's simple minds discuss people.

439
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 2: Brilliant minds or deep minds discuss ideas. So if you're

440
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Speaker 2: going to really have a conversation, let's talk about ideas.

441
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Speaker 2: But most people stay about people, and they're just that's

442
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Speaker 2: why we stay on this level because it's so much

443
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 2: more fun to talk about people. It's like, can you

444
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Speaker 2: believe they did that?

445
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Speaker 1: Just talking trash about people? Man, it's proverbs.

446
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Speaker 2: It's addictive.

447
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Speaker 1: Proverbs calls it dainty Morsels. Right, well, look there's a

448
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Speaker 1: party or your podcast right there, Dainty Morsels with John

449
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Speaker 1: Johns dot com. Because it's it does it tastes good

450
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Speaker 1: right to God to have something negative to say, yeah, yeah,

451
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Speaker 1: it feels like you have Well, it's it's control and

452
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Speaker 1: it's also deflection away from you.

453
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Speaker 2: Right, you can say, like I can make this person

454
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Speaker 2: a little bite sized thing and I can rule, I

455
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Speaker 2: can lord over that. Well, at least I'm not that right, Like, yeah,

456
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Speaker 2: it's a it's fascinating, but yeah, it's way easier. And

457
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Speaker 2: we see that with mud slinging and politics and all that,

458
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: because it's just wayser to denounce and create a boogeyman

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Speaker 2: that we all can agree as a boogeyman versus like,

460
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Speaker 2: what are we building? Right, You'll be judged by what

461
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Speaker 2: you build in the end. I hope, I hope We're

462
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Speaker 2: not going to have all generation. It's like, look at

463
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Speaker 2: all this stuff and you tore down what a great dude? Like,

464
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Speaker 2: I hope we're literally never gonna settle for that. Yeah,

465
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Speaker 2: as far as a legacy, that's not a legacy. No

466
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Speaker 2: legacies are about building.

467
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Speaker 1: And building requires staying put. It requires consistency. It requires

468
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Speaker 1: not checking out of relationships or out of commitments just

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Speaker 1: when they're hard.

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Speaker 2: It requires feel like you're talking to.

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Speaker 1: Men Nuance, Johnny, I think you know, I think like

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Speaker 1: the I think the you know, the thing I told

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Speaker 1: the church on in terms of matters of justice or

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Speaker 1: fairness or poverty and things that we affect. So one

475
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Speaker 1: like you got to find your compassion again. We read

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Speaker 1: a lot about Jesus who had compassion on the people.

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Speaker 1: They look like sheep without a shepherd, and they were harassed,

478
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Speaker 1: and they were you know, he saw them, and or

479
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Speaker 1: the blind man who was crying out for help and

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Speaker 1: everyone told him to be quiet and shut up, and

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Speaker 1: Jesus heard him. It's noticing with these phones in our hands,

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Speaker 1: it's noticing.

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Speaker 2: Just looking up. Yeah, somebody said that at the other day.

484
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Speaker 2: They were like, the greatest gift you can give someone

485
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Speaker 2: nowadays is attention. Your attention, your attention, because we have

486
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Speaker 2: so many distractions for our time and so many it's

487
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Speaker 2: so splintered. All of our attention span is so splintered. Yeah,

488
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Speaker 2: it's good. Yeah, John, let's do my segments. Let's start

489
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Speaker 2: with old jokes. We call it joke about that John.

490
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Speaker 2: My wife yelled from upstairs and asked, do you ever

491
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Speaker 2: get a shooting pain across your body like someone's got

492
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Speaker 2: a voodoo do all of you and they're stabbing it?

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Speaker 2: I said no. She said, how about now you know

494
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Speaker 2: what's coming because it's happened to You've had that conversation, John,

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Speaker 2: John as he watched his mother trying on a new

496
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Speaker 2: fur coat, Little Johnny remarked, Mom, do you realize this

497
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Speaker 2: coat is the result of the terrible suffering of a poor,

498
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Speaker 2: unfortunate animal. The mother looked sternly at little Johnny and said,

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Speaker 2: how can you speak that way about your own father?

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Speaker 2: That's good these jokes have a similar tone. I think. Finally,

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Speaker 2: John Twson, you'll like this one. Two psychologists walk out

502
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Speaker 2: of a bar. After walking a while, they see a

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Speaker 2: man lying on the sidewalk. He's unconscious, badly beaten, bleeding

504
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Speaker 2: onto the street. It's clear he's been attacked. One of

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Speaker 2: the psychologists looks the other alarmed and says, dear God,

506
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Speaker 2: we need to find the man that did this. He

507
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Speaker 2: clearly needs our help. Psychologists taking ahead on that one.

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Speaker 2: Not a psychologist, and we appreciate our psychologist listeners. Yes

509
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Speaker 2: out there, We sure you're doing a lot of good.

510
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Speaker 2: And John will be at his three pm appointment today. Yes, yes, please, John,

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Speaker 2: Let's do this week in history to close the show.

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Speaker 2: We call it talk about then, John? Did you know?

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Speaker 2: This week? Eighteen seventy four, the first US zoo opened

514
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Speaker 2: the Depth the Philadelphia Zoological Society. Open admission was just

515
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Speaker 2: twenty five cents, and it housed a thousand animals. There

516
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Speaker 2: were the picture of it, and it literally.

517
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Speaker 1: Was a house. It was a house.

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Speaker 2: It housed a thousand animals, including buffalo, deer, wolves, fox, foxes, bears, monkeys,

519
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Speaker 2: sixty seven bird species, and fifteen reptiles. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how they kept all this from Maybe there was maybe

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Speaker 2: these the yards.

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Speaker 1: Only fifteen reptiles in a house of a thousand animals,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, what are the other animals?

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Speaker 2: They had to be a ranch because the picture had

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Speaker 2: a picture of like a house, so it must have

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Speaker 2: had like there's property behind the house that where they

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Speaker 2: kept because you can't put buffalo in a house with

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Speaker 2: a reptile. I don't know what you did. Buffalo and

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Speaker 2: a reptile, sixty seven birds walking around. I mean, it's

530
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Speaker 2: just crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, my birds are back, you know, and

533
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Speaker 2: you're gonna be in trouble. Hey now, hey, now, my

534
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Speaker 2: birds are back. No, we've talked before on the show.

535
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Speaker 2: But I have a little ledge under my As you

536
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Speaker 2: walk into my front door, and there's a ledge there,

537
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Speaker 2: and birds just they the word is out. The bird

538
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Speaker 2: is the word, and the word is out, and they

539
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Speaker 2: know that this is the place to build a net

540
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Speaker 2: every season, and then if we don't get to it

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Speaker 2: soon enough, they lay eggs. And now I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to kill the babies. I'm not moving this nest, and

543
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Speaker 2: so we have to wait it out. And I'm telling you,

544
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Speaker 2: they come in and they fly, and then the poop, John,

545
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Speaker 2: the poop Amazon packages are just getting People are scared

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Speaker 2: to come to my front door, so I send them

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Speaker 2: to the garage. Anyway, Curry took down the nest today.

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Speaker 2: She said it was empty. I climbed the ladder. It

549
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Speaker 2: was empty. I took it down. I think we're good.

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Speaker 2: I go. She goes, no eggs, everything's good. I go.

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Speaker 1: Or she just wants you to think that, oh she's

552
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Speaker 1: a little squeamish one.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean my wife at this point is

554
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Speaker 2: volunteering every day at the Humane Society. She's going to

555
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Speaker 2: the dog shelter, like walking dogs in the heat. Let's

556
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Speaker 2: just cover for her bird birds, to get the birds

557
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Speaker 2: out of there. She's feeding these birds to these dogs

558
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Speaker 2: as a snack. We're on to you, Curry. It's diabolical,

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Speaker 2: it is. It's the perfect crime. John. This week, nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty two, the future retail giant Walmart opens its first store,

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Speaker 2: Walmart Discount City in Rogers, Arkansas. It was started by

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Speaker 2: Sam Walton, of course, who had previous success with his Bentonville,

563
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Speaker 2: Arkansas five and dimes store, and that five and dime store,

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Speaker 2: I believe is still in Bentonville. Like it's a museum

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Speaker 2: basically the first kind of Walmart like thing Bentonville. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you've been to Bentonville, but I think

567
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Speaker 2: we talked about it when I did a comedy club

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Speaker 2: in Lowell, which is the nearby town.

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Speaker 1: They have redone the whole city, basically in the belt area.

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Speaker 2: Well, the story that I heard was that the family

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Speaker 2: after Sam Walton died, they inherited so much money that

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Speaker 2: it was either pay this billions of dollars in capital

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Speaker 2: gains or you could reinvest it, and they reinvested it

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Speaker 2: in the town. And so Bentonville is now this like

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Speaker 2: go to place. People vacation there because it has like

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Speaker 2: the most biking trails of any major American city. It's

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Speaker 2: got an art museum that is free to attend. It's

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Speaker 2: called the Crystal Rivers Art Museum, I think American reseum.

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Speaker 2: It has a billion dollars of heart in it. Wow,

580
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Speaker 2: all American art, and uh, it's an incredible place. So

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Speaker 2: Bennville's like this course and of course there's a million

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Speaker 2: places where you get Uh there is an airport. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's an airport like just south of there. But it's

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Speaker 2: not like it's not it's an international but it's you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not a direct from here. But anyway, it's like

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Speaker 2: one of those things where there's a million places where

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Speaker 2: you can get a twenty dollars Hamburger too, because it's

588
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Speaker 2: just what happens in cities like that. So it's very

589
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Speaker 2: there's no chains, it's very you know, yeah Bob's Biscuit.

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Speaker 1: House, Eastville.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's very cool place to go now. But

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Speaker 2: all that said, like the the the Waltons made a

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Speaker 2: lot of money, and I you know Walmart. Do you

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Speaker 2: go to Walmart? Are you a Walmart person or are

595
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Speaker 2: you one of those people that swears off Walmart?

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Speaker 1: No, And we do Walmart, but we do mostly Walmart

597
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Speaker 1: orders to the We let them deliver, spend eight bucks

598
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Speaker 1: and get it all sent eight bucks by not buying

599
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Speaker 1: other things there the USU you do.

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Speaker 2: But also like they go, hey, we didn't have avocados,

601
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Speaker 2: so here's a canal over, here's a here's a tennis ball.

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Speaker 2: This is not the same.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I can't believe I have people delivering

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Speaker 1: these things and they can't even do it right. My

605
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Speaker 1: butler died to get out of my bed and walk

606
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Speaker 1: to the porch. I get it. I got birds pooping

607
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Speaker 1: on me.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Walmart and not a sponsor. We don't think maybe

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Speaker 2: they were, could be they're rolling back prices. John this week,

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Speaker 2: seventeen seventy six.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I know what's this?

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Speaker 2: Continental? This has got some facts that you may not

613
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Speaker 2: know though, That's why I included it.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The Continental Congress voted to an adopt a resolution of independence.

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Speaker 2: The vote was unanimous except for hold on, do you

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Speaker 2: know which state they abstained?

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Speaker 1: New York?

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Speaker 2: New York, New York would vote to accept the resolution

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Speaker 2: on July ninth. This was July second, so it took

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Speaker 2: them a week to be convinced. I guess. Thomas Jefferson

622
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Speaker 2: was selected to compose the original draft, which was to

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Speaker 2: be edited by Congress. It was adapted adopted on July fourth.

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Speaker 1: Of course, pretty certain that there were like thirty two

625
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Speaker 1: thousand troops in New York Harbor at the time waiting

626
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Speaker 1: to come. So I mean New York had some pressure. Yeah, okay,

627
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Speaker 1: oh wow, but that was had a lot of loyalists.

628
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Speaker 1: New York fell early. I mean you you've watched Hamilton,

629
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Speaker 1: you know, but I mean Washington, you know, defending Brooklyn.

630
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Speaker 1: You don't think about all these things. But these battles

631
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Speaker 1: were there, and then New York fell early and remained

632
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Speaker 1: a loyalist stronghold basically for the whole war, the whole war.

633
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Speaker 2: And they and they've never recovered. Yeah, they still love

634
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Speaker 2: a bunch of loyalists. Uh uh, Yeah, I was.

635
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Speaker 1: I told you.

636
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Speaker 2: I was in Yorktown, Virginia. Yeah, and we went down

637
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Speaker 2: by like the Peer or whatever, and it was just

638
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: like it's its own little historical there's a million little

639
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: places to see that were, you know, because that's a

640
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: crazy part of the war and all that revolutionary war.

641
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like I fought The fourth of July

642
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Speaker 1: should not be Independence Day? Okay, I'll tell you why.

643
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Speaker 1: It's the day we declared independence and then we fought

644
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Speaker 1: a war for like five years.

645
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Speaker 2: The day that we won won the war, what is

646
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Speaker 2: that called Armistice's Armistice Armist's Day's World War two. W

647
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Speaker 2: you can't remember which one.

648
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Speaker 1: I think it's called the Treaty of Paris that ended

649
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Speaker 1: the war. And I don't know what you think.

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Speaker 2: That should be the day.

651
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Speaker 1: I think that should be victory day, the day you

652
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Speaker 1: declare it's great.

653
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it kind of speaks to the thing

654
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: of like that set it in motion.

655
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did. Also again and do what we've been doing. Sorry, guys,

656
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: start to change the date. Also. This is just something interesting.

657
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Speaker 1: I can't think about the declargement Independence without thinking about

658
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Speaker 1: Lincoln because if you read John Meachen's book on Lincoln,

659
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: he talks so much about how so much of what

660
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: Lincoln did, especially with the Emancipation Proclamation, and you know, eventually,

661
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, freeing the slaves, which was a military necessity

662
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: for certain and all those things, but that Meecha really

663
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: felt like he had a that he evolved in that time. Obviously,

664
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Speaker 1: at the beginning it was not he promised he wasn't

665
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Speaker 1: going to set the slaves free in the South and

666
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Speaker 1: all the things, but by the end he did. So

667
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: you can debate that. Historians debated it for years, but

668
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: what we eacham really talks about is how he was

669
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: seemingly as or more influenced by the words of the

670
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: of the Declares of Independence, which is really not law.

671
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: It's not the Constitution. It's like a great like mission statement.

672
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: Really yeah, it's a statement.

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00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: They took it to heart of like allmen are creative.

674
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Speaker 1: Credit egal and like you can't really enforce that because

675
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a litigious thing to go do.

676
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: It's just a declaration. But that how Lincoln really took

677
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: Jefferson's words to heart and kind of let that be

678
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Speaker 1: his guiding star.

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00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think, well, I think it's a good document.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what you say, John this week. Dave

681
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Speaker 2: Thomas was born in nineteen thirty two, passed in two

682
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Speaker 2: thousand and two. Nice long life. Do you know who?

683
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Speaker 2: Dave Thomas was the founder of wendy s Hamburger's. He

684
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Speaker 2: was an American restaurant tour and he founded Wendy's Hamburger

685
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Speaker 2: restaurant in nineteen sixty nine, named it after his daughter.

686
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Speaker 1: I think I just watched the food that built America,

687
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: and I think that he was the first fast food restaurant.

688
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: I think to open up a dining area inside because

689
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: originally it was a walk up.

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Speaker 2: Right, you walk up, that's all The McDonald's were speedy. Yeah,

691
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: they turn around, hand you a thing from a conveyor belt.

692
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: Here's your burger, But you'd go sit on a park.

693
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Speaker 1: Being Before that, it was like, you know, drive through

694
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Speaker 1: would not drive Well, maybe it was a drive through

695
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Speaker 1: he put in. Because drive throughs, McDonald's refused.

696
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Speaker 2: To do drive interesting.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't do it for years.

698
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Speaker 2: You think, now they got two lanes, you have e merging.

699
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Speaker 1: Everyone thinks McDonald's like, you know, spearheaded that they did

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Speaker 1: not yea, and they thought.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the two lanes in a drive through.

702
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: To you, I always feel like I have a panic attack,

703
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 2: thinking like is this guy really gonna let me in?

704
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: It's my turn, but he can just take it if

705
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: he wants.

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Speaker 1: I always wonder for the guy at the window. Really

707
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Speaker 1: then those from yeah, how is.

708
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Speaker 2: It not out of order? Somehow? It's a mess anyway.

709
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: The main thing about fast food, if we're really going

710
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: to be old men right now, is it's a million

711
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: dollars deep fast food. And that used to be like

712
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: fast food was the option when you did it you wanted,

713
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: you didn't want to cook, but you don't have the

714
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: money to eat out, So let's just go to Wendy's.

715
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Speaker 1: Let's go to McDonald's. Let's get a bag of food

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Speaker 1: for five dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now that ain't happening, bro a Wendy's like combo

718
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: is eleven bucks.

719
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we ordered Chinese the other night for

720
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Speaker 1: the four of us from not like an upscale, just

721
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: like a it was seventy dollars. I don't know, man,

722
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Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy. We're in a lot of trouble. Yeah,

723
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: can I say this one?

724
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Speaker 2: When I can't get Chinese food for less than can I.

725
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: Say, what's a bigger issue than that?

726
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Speaker 2: To me? Though?

727
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: Tiny straws, Tiny straws that just collapse.

728
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: About paper?

729
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: No, like again, I have I have a seven bread

730
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Speaker 1: that's good.

731
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Speaker 2: That's a good size straw. But you know what I

732
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: really love is the big Boba tea. Yeah, like piece

733
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Speaker 2: of pizza sea type. I want a straw that and

734
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: my wife at draws are crazy. I'm just always gonna

735
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Speaker 2: do it. I take the straw and I hit it

736
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Speaker 2: on the table, Yeah, and it breaks and then the

737
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Speaker 2: f brig straw.

738
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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the straw's fault because straws and McDonald's still.

739
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Speaker 2: Has Can I tell you my theory that this is

740
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: going to be a conspiracy theory. I think it's true.

741
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Speaker 1: You heard it here first.

742
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: I think restaurants that you sit down and you get

743
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: free refills they give you smaller straws because they don't

744
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: want you to be able to Sometimes they don't even

745
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: offer you a straw because they know you're not going

746
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: to drink as much without a big straw, because you're

747
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: not able to just gulp it down. They don't want

748
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: to keep giving you free refills. A big a restaurant

749
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Speaker 2: that you're driving away with a cup, they're like, whatever,

750
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 2: give this guy.

751
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: Whatever, he's gone.

752
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: You know.

753
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: Wow, guys, huh, it's about the refills. Let me tell

754
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Speaker 1: you something. Johnny sees through. He sees through.

755
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: Through big Soda. They're not getting myesh, john. Finally, this

756
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: week nineteen eighty five, a little movie called Back to

757
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: the Future premiered, starring Michael J. Fox, Christoph Lloyd, and

758
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Speaker 2: Lea Thompson. Filmed on a budget of just nineteen million,

759
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Speaker 2: and earned three hundred and eighty eight point eight million

760
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Speaker 2: dollars at the box office. The project was initially rejected

761
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: by more than forty various studios. Wow, isn't that crazy?

762
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: Wow?

763
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: Rejected more than forty times by various I.

764
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Speaker 1: Think Michael J. Fox wasn't the original actors. They're pitching

765
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Speaker 1: him on name records. That's true, Eric Stoles. They actually

766
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: shot for like six weeks with Eric Stollson shot a

767
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: good portion of the movie with Eric Stolls and then

768
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: we're like, something's not right. Yeah, he was playing the

769
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: character a lot differently. Yeah, less whimsical more. Have you

770
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: seen that?

771
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: If you see the clips of him, you see it,

772
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: And honestly, it's crazy too, because if I was him,

773
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: I'd be bitter. He went on to have a pretty

774
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: great career, Like Eric Stills is a really real respected

775
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: artist and an actor, and he's done a lot of

776
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: like what you would call like smaller films. But yeah,

777
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Eric Stoles had a good career.

778
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I saw a clip the other day that must be

779
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: why of behind the scenes of Michael Jackson with so

780
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Lord Michael J. Fox, behind the scenes different people.

781
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: They are different guys with a guitar player. And I

782
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: forgot that Huey Lewis was the principal.

783
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Speaker 2: No, he was. He yes, yeah, because they were the

784
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: Talent Show. Yeah, and he'd got on the megaphone. You're

785
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: just too darn loud. Yes, they're playing a Huey Lewis song.

786
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: So Huey Lewis is in costume and Michael Michael J.

787
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: Fox is practicing his solo and he is wailing, and

788
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: Huey Lewis is so impressed. He's like, is this okay?

789
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: He was like, you're doing great, It's really great. It

790
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: was really because you could tell he was trying to

791
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: impress him, because.

792
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: You know he was really playing though.

793
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he played. He played those solos. He played

794
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: Johnny be Good.

795
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I always thought that that he didn't

796
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: play then, but then he learned to play for a

797
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: movie he did called Light of Day. I think I

798
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: read that the other day, but maybe I'm wrong.

799
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: No, he was playing.

800
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: He was playing this.

801
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: Because he had someone working with him. The guy had

802
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: his own guitar attacker with him on it, and he was,

803
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean killing it.

804
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, there's a guy who does videos

805
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: of movies where actors are playing the guitar as a

806
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: character and they look at where they are on the

807
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: fret board and play actually what the solos they would

808
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: be playing, and it's really funny. There's a channel where

809
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: there's a movie Ralph Macchio did. I cannot remember what

810
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: it was. I'm albun to butcher it. I can't remember

811
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: the name. But anyway, Ralph Macchio plays this guy who

812
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: plays in these roadhouses and he's just ripping. But the

813
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: guy's playing what he would actually be playing, and it's

814
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: over dubbed and it's just nonsense. It's just gibberish on

815
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: the guitar basically, and it's just so funny. But as

816
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: you watch it, your brain fools you. You go, this

817
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: guy's ripping.

818
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I watched people do it with piano and

819
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: movies and stuff, and I'm always shocked how no one

820
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: in the room could have walked over. And it's like, guys, okay,

821
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: it's eighty eight keys. If it's it's got to be low.

822
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: It's up here, it's got to be high. If he's

823
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: playing in the middle and it's high, yeah, I mean,

824
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: surely you can tell he's not playing.

825
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: What about Tom Hanks and Robert Loja and big when

826
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: they're doing the thing on the big rollout keyboard, do

827
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: you really do you have some continuity issues there. When

828
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 2: they do chop sticks, they really did that. You don't

829
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: think that was dubbed in. I don't that was dubbed

830
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: in after the fact that there's no way they were

831
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: really doing it. We need to find out it.

832
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: We're finding out you want to find out right now,

833
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: Right now, we're gonna ask Claude, did they really play?

834
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: Did they really play? What are you gonna call that thing?

835
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: The big keyboard on the movie Big.

836
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Big keyboard on the movie Big. I will tell you this,

837
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: Claude is just Claude is superior in terms of it

838
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: bothers me?

839
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: How all in on AI you are? I'm only in

840
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: you know it's going to take your job eventually.

841
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: No, maybe, but I'm getting older anyway by the time

842
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: that happens.

843
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: So you want to close the door behind you the

844
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: next guy's problem. Yeah, closed the door right behind you?

845
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't Claude needs me to write it? Still you still

846
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: have too, I mean for now, claud a good. I

847
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: don't use claud to write. I used Claude to research.

848
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: Are you being paid to say? All?

849
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: This?

850
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: Be honest?

851
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: Short answer? The piano was real and they really performed

852
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: the scene themselves, but the music you hear was cleaned

853
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: up and postprit That's what I thought. So they did it.

854
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 2: If they had a bad note or two, it got cleaned.

855
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: Up, so their exact footsteps aren't literally producing the notes

856
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: on the scene.

857
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: That's what I had a feeling, though.

858
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: The instrument was a genuine working one. It's called the

859
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: walking piano or big piano created by.

860
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: You can get one of those. I bought one from

861
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: my niece one time, didn't you really, Yeah, you can

862
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: buy They're not that expensive. I mean, she probably didn't

863
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: have a nice version that they had. Hers was like

864
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 2: a little matt It rolled out.

865
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Speaker 1: Tom and Robert did the dance themselves rather than handing

866
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Speaker 1: it off the doubles for the playing, and Hanks has

867
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Speaker 1: proven this repeatedly, including a twenty thirteen performance on The

868
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Ross Show where he hopped at a giant keyboard

869
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: and knocked out hard and soul and chopsticks from memory

870
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Speaker 1: decades later, what.

871
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Speaker 2: In the world, well, then, never mind, maybe he didn't

872
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Speaker 2: know it.

873
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Speaker 1: He did do it. It's just that probably yeah, yeah, well,

874
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Speaker 1: and they probably did to clean up they hit a

875
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Speaker 1: bad note.

876
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: You're like, all right, it's take five. We're just gonna finish.

877
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: But those things lit up.

878
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it I still think I think I think they

879
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Speaker 2: fixed it in posts. I don't think it lit up,

880
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Speaker 2: did it. I think you're thinking of more. I think

881
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: you're thinking of the Uh.

882
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: I thought it did Billy Jean video or Cubert the Catches.

883
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: The audio if you watch closely, the notes on the

884
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: soundtrack don't line up perfectly with which keys his feet

885
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: are actually hitting. The music was polished and added in

886
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: post production, which is clearly standing for a musical set

887
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: piece like this, so it's not raw footage of two

888
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: guys feet producing a clean rendition of heart and soul

889
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: in one life tape formed the choreography for real on

890
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Speaker 1: a real instrument. The pristine tune you Hear was finished

891
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Speaker 1: the ending Room.

892
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Speaker 2: I need to watch Big again. Uh. It's one of

893
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Speaker 2: those movies where in the back of the future. The

894
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: reason it made the list is because it's a movie

895
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Speaker 2: that I still feel like. All three of those really

896
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Speaker 2: still hold the hold, and I feel like even Sadie

897
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Speaker 2: would enjoy them.

898
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Speaker 1: I tried with her.

899
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Speaker 2: She didn't think. She didn't like Young. Okay, you gonna

900
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: try again.

901
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: We'll try again, try Big I have a list of

902
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: movies I wanted to watch for she graduated.

903
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: They could get a little creepy though, because Elizabeth Perkins

904
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: falls in love with this basically fourteen year old boy.

905
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: It's kind of it's.

906
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: Not it's weird at the end when he turns back

907
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: into a boy and then.

908
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: She's just like in her car like oh, and it's

909
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: like she didn't sit being like oh and running home

910
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: and showering right and just being like, get this, this

911
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: is gross? Am I a gross person?

912
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: That it's a little it doesn't think like Luke and

913
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Leah kissing, and no one ever talks about it, you

914
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

915
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, well, you know why that happened is

916
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: because in the beginning, he didn't write Darth Vader as

917
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: his father, and then Lucas Lucas Luke wasn't originally Leya

918
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: is gonna be Lay's twin. That was all like they

919
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: were writing it on the fly. So they wrote them

920
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: as love interests because they were gonna be love interests.

921
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: When did we learn about it?

922
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: Empire strikes Back?

923
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: So second movie, Yeah, the first movie, he didn't know

924
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: they were He.

925
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: Did not know he was not the plan originally was

926
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Speaker 2: not to make Darth Vader Luke's father.

927
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Speaker 1: Or Layah his sister. No, okay, so that's the whole thing. Yeah, yeah,

928
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: that's the whole point. Yeah. Like so, wow, that's a

929
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: lot that happened in the second movie.

930
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you look at the original poster, that's

931
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: the poster is like them embracing like love interests. Yeah,

932
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: like it's not like, well, here's a brother and sister yeah,

933
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: side hugging.

934
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: No, it's a So then he had to reconcile his mind, like, listen,

935
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong.

936
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, some Star Wars people are going to

937
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: get onto me. But I swear to you, I think

938
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 2: I've seen and read this that are you gonna look

939
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: this up to chime? We're running out of time here, Leiah.

940
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: How do you spell Layah l E I A E

941
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: I E I?

942
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Were they originally love interests?

943
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: Originally intended to be.

944
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: Brother and sister's time?

945
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: That's good wording for Clawdne and Claude is our producer now, yeah,

946
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: thinking Claude, it takes ay just pipe it into chat.

947
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: Let him raised.

948
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet. I'm gonna bet you're right, because that

949
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: makes sense now, Yeah, there.

950
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: Was a lot of stuff that they were like, oh,

951
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: because it's some of it they had to fix continuity errors. Yeah,

952
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: because like Jaba, the Hutt was an originally a blob.

953
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 2: He was a dude in a fur coat.

954
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: Really.

955
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you watch the old the original which they

956
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: edited him out and they put Jaba in.

957
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: You're correct. Not when the first films were made. The

958
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: sibling relationship was a later decision, and the evidence for

959
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: that is baggd writing in the movies. If Lucas had

960
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: planned from the start the romantic tension between them, the

961
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 1: love triangle set up with Han and especially Leah's good

962
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: luck or for luck kiss Empire strikes back, Oh, would

963
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: be bizarre to leave in. Lucas himself never really pretended

964
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: otherwise in this point, But there's a genuinely interesting wrinkle

965
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: that makes the answer more than a flat no. The

966
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: concept of Loup having a secret sister did exist early.

967
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: That's what Yoda's cryptic know. There is another line an

968
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: Empire's pointing to the catch is that this sister was

969
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: originally conceived as a completely different character, not Leah. So

970
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: first draft script for Empire, Luke had a long lost

971
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: sister named Nelleth and Luke was to learn about her

972
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: from the forced ghost of his father, who in the

973
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: draft was not Darth Vader at all. They described the

974
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: plan the sister was someone on the far side of

975
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: the galaxy. He wasn't going to appear until a later episode.

976
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: So I'll just keep listening. I think if the lesson

977
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: of the show today is sometimes your first draft, you

978
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 2: just gotta keep rolling.

979
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you're gonna make a classic. We don't know,

980
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: you never know, you never know. And if even if

981
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: it involves someone kissing their sister, and even if.

982
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: It turns out that the worst person in the universe

983
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: is your father, yeah, there's still hope, right all, maybe

984
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: he'll change his mind at the end.

985
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: It turned down because he did, even though in later

986
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: movies though he was redeemed, his grandson went on to

987
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: commit the same atrocities and then eventually he was redeemed.

988
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: But could we just skip the atrocity part?

989
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's guys, if we could say anything today, it's

990
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: please skip the atrocities.

991
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: I think that that that's sort of our mantra in

992
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: a nuts that's a T shirt right there, guys, Could

993
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: we just skip the atrocities. I do you actually think

994
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: about stuff like that, like all his when God, so

995
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: when the Israelites are so unruly in the desert that

996
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: they have to wonder for forty years, which on a

997
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: journey that I think would have taken ten days. Yeah,

998
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: because they just they just can't and always go. Yeah,

999
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: but God, we could just skip the four hundred years

1000
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: in Egypt whenever they lost their whole identity and religion.

1001
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: That would have been you know. So I don't know.

1002
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: There's I guess I see through some things too, Johnny.

1003
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: We could have skipped that atrocity, you know, I don't know.

1004
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I got anybody doubting there. I still

1005
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: it's fine. God's ways are not our ways, and.

1006
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine.

1007
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: I just it's just things to understand.

1008
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: Some of us are in our own desert. Maybe it's yeah,

1009
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: and we wish we could skip it, But john something's

1010
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: there to be learned.

1011
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: It's a digital desert.

1012
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: Come out to the other side.

1013
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: Hey, Johnny, how will they learn more about the show?

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1015
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1034
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Speaker 2: go to my Google pature. I'm in the results. Oh

1036
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Speaker 2: did you mean? And it corrects you.

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Speaker 1: Now a listener is going to go buy it and

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Speaker 1: then hold.

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Speaker 2: It and sit on it way to go. Thanks John

1042
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Speaker 2: that good grief.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it was a lot of fun today. It

1044
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: was great to be back with Johnny two. It was

1045
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: fun to see you buddy. And the happy late birthday again.

1046
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Speaker 1: Thanks well, I told you on your birthday. You did

1047
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Speaker 1: happy birthday today from last week. You don't seem a

1048
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Speaker 1: day over.

1049
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Speaker 2: I'm so old. It's okay, I already

1050
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Speaker 1: Said, guys, let's do it again next week, Carol, to

1051
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Speaker 1: talk about that