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Speaker 1: Life Audio. Hello, Welcome to the Praying Christian Woman podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am Alana here with Jamie.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing great? How about you good?

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Speaker 1: I am so excited we get to keep on talking

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Speaker 1: about Bible memorization. And I don't feel like people need

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Speaker 1: to go back and you must listen to part one

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Speaker 1: before we go here. But we've just been chatting about

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Speaker 1: the benefits of Bible memorization, tips and tricks for memorization,

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Speaker 1: some of my testimony that hopefully I want to share

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Speaker 1: some more about that with you, about Bible memory and

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Speaker 1: continuing to have that talk. So what's been in your

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Speaker 1: mind since we last talked, which is only a couple

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Speaker 1: days ago when we recorded the first part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've just been thinking a lot about how little

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Speaker 3: I've been committing scripture to memory, and so as I've

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Speaker 3: been trying to memorize this verse that we talked about

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Speaker 3: we're going to memorize the verse, my brain isn't It

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Speaker 3: doesn't work the same, I think because I haven't been

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Speaker 3: memorizing scripture. My brain is different, and so I can

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Speaker 3: feel the gears start to gradually start, you know, moving,

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Speaker 3: and I know and I can tell that the more

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Speaker 3: I work on it, the more it's going to help.

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Speaker 3: So this scripture memory is going to help not only

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Speaker 3: with memorizing scripture, which is going to be good, but

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Speaker 3: probably with my brain in general and just like you know,

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Speaker 3: elasticity and neuroplasticity and all of that stuff. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I've been thinking back to the days when I began

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Speaker 3: memorizing scripture, which was very cool because it was kind

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Speaker 3: of a time in my life where I sort of

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Speaker 3: rededicated my life to Christ, when I started praying in

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Speaker 3: ways where I saw God starting to move like I

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Speaker 3: never had before because and I was looking at prayer

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Speaker 3: in a different way. It was it was just it's

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Speaker 3: kind of stoked the flames of my faith a little

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Speaker 3: bit to remember back to that time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing that I did because you and I

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Speaker 1: in the last episode decided that we would both choose

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Speaker 1: a passage to memorize and that would be our worst

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Speaker 1: of the day. And like I said, we've only had

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Speaker 1: two days, so either of us probably have a full

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Speaker 1: passage memorize, but well, we'll do what we can. But

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Speaker 1: what I did is, while I was working on it,

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Speaker 1: I had a post it. You know how much I

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Speaker 1: of the blocks that popped into my head while I

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Speaker 1: was doing it, and one of them was kind of

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Speaker 1: like what you said, Like if it's not as easy

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Speaker 1: as it was when I was twenty, why bother right?

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Speaker 1: And it's just this idea of when you look at

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Speaker 1: nonsensical was, Like what in the world does anything about

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like mo cares that that has no bearing on today.

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Speaker 1: So it might be like saying, you know, when I

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Speaker 1: wrote my first few books, I could write six thousand

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Speaker 1: not really like it's a dumb metric. It means nothing.

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Speaker 1: The fact that I'm not writing six thousand words a

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Speaker 1: day certainly doesn't mean I can't write two thousand words

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Speaker 1: a day. And just because I can write two thousand

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Speaker 1: I still won't like writing, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: they're just it's so arbitrary, it's to me, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like it makes sense, but when you look at it,

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Speaker 1: it's like saying, well, I can't go be the bridesmaid

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Speaker 1: in your wedding even though we're best friends and no

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Speaker 1: Jamie's not getting remarried or anything. Jamie and our husband

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Speaker 1: are still happily together and happily married. I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: to pull out like the dumbest hypothetical I can, like, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I can't be your bridesmaid because when I was twelve,

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Speaker 1: as if in my brain that made perfect sense to me.

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Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like by saying well, since it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, totally agreed.

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Speaker 3: We're different people and we have different things in our lives,

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Speaker 3: and thank God for our brains that adapt to our

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Speaker 3: very different from when we were twenty and had no, like,

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Speaker 3: let's face it, super responsibilities other than making it to

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Speaker 3: class and memorizing scripture. I mean, that's maybe simplifying it

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean there was studying, but our minds

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Speaker 3: So anyway, all of that to say, thank you God,

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Speaker 3: that's what where I'm going to land. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: take what you said totally resonate with it and say,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to thank God for the ways that He's

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Speaker 3: transformed my brain to deal with the things that I'm

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Speaker 3: dealing with on a day to day basis now. And

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Speaker 3: I'm also going to thank him that I have a

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Speaker 3: and that I can work at it and it can

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Speaker 3: probably become easier as I go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Another big block that came up for me.

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Speaker 1: I think this might be one of my biggest blocks

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Speaker 1: that I encountered was because I've memorized in the past.

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Speaker 1: I know how much work it takes to keep what

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Speaker 1: you've memorized in your brain. Right, So my block is, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm memorizing this now, but in two weeks I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to have it memorized. And so what I have

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Speaker 1: had to combat that block with is. It's not about

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Speaker 1: keeping it memorized for the rest of my life. It's

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Speaker 1: about absorbing it in the act of memorizing it, almost

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Speaker 1: like in fifty first States, Right, it's like I might

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Speaker 1: get the joy and the privilege of falling in love

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Speaker 1: with you every single day, right, as opposed to I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to remember you tomorrow, so why should I

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: You can, you can flip it, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: it's not about am I going to know this in

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Speaker 1: So that in itself is the spiritual discipline. And if

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Speaker 1: the almost the bonus. And then I also absolutely recognize

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Speaker 1: and so another block might be, you know, unless I

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Speaker 1: wasn't worth the time spent doing it. I'm choosing to

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Speaker 1: a friend who runs marathons, and basically what she told

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Speaker 1: So it's not like you go from fifteen and then

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Speaker 1: kind of think of it like that. Like so again,

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Speaker 1: if we want to go really, really dramatic, I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: So it's I have it good enough, and good enough

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Speaker 3: I mean I think about it as putting scripture in

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Speaker 3: It's there, your unconscious subconscious mind retains it, even if

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Speaker 3: it's there and the Holy Spirit can take it and

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Speaker 3: bring it to the forefront. I mean, realistically, I guess

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Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit could just plant it in there in

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Speaker 3: that's how I look at it as. Even if it's

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Speaker 3: not one hundred percent the act of going through the

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm choosing to go into this phase of

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Speaker 1: So with that, what have you chosen to start memorizing?

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you my process.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to memorize the passage where Steven kind

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Speaker 3: of gives like this gospel recap it's long though, it's

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Speaker 3: So this is Matthew twenty six, sixty three and sixty four.

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Speaker 3: I haven't memorized all of it. But when our oldest

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Speaker 2: I know the stories of the Bible.

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Speaker 3: I know about Jesus, and I want to believe in Jesus,

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Speaker 3: but I have a kernel of doubt that Christianity is

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Speaker 3: He was just like, Mom, get my bible, get or

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Speaker 3: get a Bible and look up Matthew twenty six sixty four.

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Speaker 3: I think this is the passage, because I just remember

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Speaker 3: that when he said sixty four, I was thinking, I

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Speaker 3: Like this is scary, And I got kind of panicky,

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Speaker 3: because of course we want to make it, you know.

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Speaker 3: And so anyway, if this is in fact the verse,

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Speaker 3: which I think it is, I opened up the Bible

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Speaker 3: and sure enough it was there. And we hadn't talked

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Speaker 3: I said, you have said so, Jesus replied, but I

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Speaker 3: And I said, okay. And He's like, WHOA, Like that's

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Speaker 1: just start looking at it and learning it or did

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Speaker 1: you have any other systems for how to do the

435
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Speaker 1: act of memorizing.

436
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Speaker 3: I did just basically. I would do the first few words,

437
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 3: cover it up, say them, and then I did the

438
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Speaker 3: first few words plus a few more. Now, though as

439
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: you say that, I remembered what you said about memorizing.

440
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Speaker 3: The large amounts of scripture, it might be beneficial to

441
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Speaker 3: memorize the first few words, then memorize the next few words,

442
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Speaker 3: and then put the two together.

443
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking for my brain because when I just keep

444
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: adding and adding and adding, one.

445
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Speaker 3: Of my blocks is ooh, that's too long, like when

446
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: I start to see the string getting longer and longer.

447
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 3: So I think, maybe, like you what you did, only

448
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 3: I do it on a micro scale of like, okay,

449
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: first few words, then the next phrase, just memorize that

450
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 3: phrase and then put the two together. So I think

451
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: that's what I'm going to do for the remainder. But

452
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: what I had been doing was reading a little bit,

453
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 3: then adding a little bit more, adding a little bit more,

454
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: and it was challenging.

455
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Speaker 1: Yeah, eventually you know what your brain capacity is and

456
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: you need to basically make it into a smaller chunk

457
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Speaker 1: than what max is out your brain capacity.

458
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

459
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: One of the I don't think this is a block,

460
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: This is just a logistic problem that I come across

461
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: when I memorize, is how do I know if I'm

462
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: getting it right? Because if I'm just here doing it right,

463
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Speaker 1: Like we think of Bible memory as something that a

464
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Speaker 1: kid does in Sunday school and there's a teacher there

465
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: and you're chanting it with the group, and all of

466
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: those things are so good for memory, right, like speaking

467
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Speaker 1: of it out loud, doing it kind of more chanty,

468
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: doing it in a group, so there's reinforcement. But if

469
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: you're just sitting there with your Bible, most of those

470
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: aren't available to you. You I would come up with

471
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: a chant. I think that's actually very beneficial, but I'm

472
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: too self conscious to do that out loud, even if

473
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: I'm home alone, which you know, there's another block that

474
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: I could eventually get over.

475
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well one thing if you're not if you're open

476
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Speaker 3: to it, I remember it was for a Wana. There's

477
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 3: a CD that you can get and if you are

478
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: not opposed to singing little kids songs, it was so effective.

479
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: And it's not like great music. It's not great tunes.

480
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: It's very repetitive and generic sounding. But you would be

481
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Speaker 3: amazed if you haven't already learned things through Auana music.

482
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Speaker 2: Or no no, no, no, I'm sorry. Was it a Wana?

483
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Speaker 2: Or was it Good News Club?

484
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: There's tons of resources and most of them.

485
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: Are both Good News Club.

486
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Speaker 3: But yeah, even the most sing songy generic tunes stick

487
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 3: in your head better stick in my head absolutely well.

488
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Speaker 1: And there are some albums for Bible memorization that are

489
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: more geared toward adults. So honestly, for me, if I

490
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: were to do it, I'd be like, give me the

491
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: kid stuff. It's more fun, it's more catchy. But there

492
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: was definitely a time in my life where I would

493
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: have been almost insulted by that and it just wouldn't

494
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 1: have resonated with me. And so I do know that

495
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: there are lots of people who make scripture memory versus

496
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: set to music, and sometimes they're more paraphrase and sometimes

497
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: they are definitely like verbatim to the word, And you

498
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 1: just have to decide what you're most comfortable with. Do

499
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: you know the band Shane and Shane, So they have

500
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: an entire album. It's just an acoustic album called Psalms,

501
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: and it's beautiful and they're all inspired. All the lyrics

502
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: are inspired by Psalms, but they're not like verbatim from Psalms.

503
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: But I know there are also people who for adults

504
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: take John three sixteen and set it to music. But

505
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: like I said, to be fair, the kid's stuff is

506
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: catch here, it's going to be in your head more. Yeah,

507
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: to me, I'm at the stage of my life where

508
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: it's more fun anyway. So yeah, the one thing that

509
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: I could definitely see myself wanting to add that I

510
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be self conscious about doing home alone is signing.

511
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: So the whole thing that I came across it was

512
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: like called predestined, justified, glorified, and like it's like, what

513
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: order do those go in? I think I could definitely

514
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: if I learned the sign language for those, or even

515
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: just some kind of hand q that helps me do

516
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: it in order, I think I would memorize it more,

517
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: or if I really wanted to, I could come up

518
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: with a mnemonic, right, so I could be Okay, first

519
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: it's called then it's predestined, so CP. So now I'm

520
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: thinking about cerebral palsy, which is kind of a sad

521
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: thing to be thinking about, but that's what I'm thinking about.

522
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: So you know, I can I can tell myself it's

523
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: a three were palsy verse. So okay, those he called

524
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: he predestined because see has to come first, right, There

525
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: are lots of mnemonics there. One of the things that

526
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: I find for when you get logistically to just if

527
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: you're learning a passage by yourself, and you don't have

528
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: a great way to test yourself. There are apps that

529
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: will do this, or I like to do it in paper.

530
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: What I like is to write down the first letter

531
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: of each word and then just put it on a

532
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: note card and look at the note card and see

533
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: if I can do it all of that way. It's

534
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: basically the equivalent I know a lot of Sunday school teachers.

535
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: You'll write the entire verse on the board yep, and

536
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 1: everyone will say it out loud, and then you'll just

537
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: erase one word at a time, and when you're with

538
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: a group, and when you're doing it in a kind

539
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: of sing songy tone, by the time every word's been erased,

540
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: you can do the whole thing. So I like having

541
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: the first letter of each word as a cue. And

542
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: then what you can do is, once you get comfortable

543
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: with that as you can turn it into the first

544
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: letter of a phrase and then like the first letter

545
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: of averse or the first letter of a paragraph, just

546
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: kind of to keep you on track. But right now,

547
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: if your only options, like for me, my only option

548
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: is to have it in my head or to have

549
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: the whole thing in front of me in the Bible right,

550
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: and so there's there's not an imagery, but I know

551
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: there are apps that will do this as well, and

552
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: so it can be specifically a Bible memory app. I

553
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: don't have any to recommend, but I know there exist,

554
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: or I know there are apps designed to help people memorize,

555
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, like a speech or something. There are some

556
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: where you can if you're an auditory learner, you can

557
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: record yourself saying it and then what it will do

558
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: is it will read it back to you but leave

559
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: out certain words, and then in your brain you're filling

560
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: them in. So basically you're doing the same thing that

561
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: Sunday school teacher is doing by erasing one word at

562
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Speaker 1: a time. Another way you could do it. Another kind

563
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 1: of logistic hurdle I come across in this is if

564
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: if it's just me, I don't know if I'm saying

565
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: it right or wrong right, so I might think I

566
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: have it totally right, but I might be forgetting an

567
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: entire middle section. So I know there were apps where

568
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: you can record yourself and it will tell you, or

569
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, you could even just there are so many

570
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: voice memo apps. You could just record it as a

571
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: voice memo and then go back and check it against scripture.

572
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Speaker 3: And one of my favorite ways to memorize scripture was

573
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Speaker 3: with a partner, Like I had a friend and we

574
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: would get together once a week and so she would

575
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: have it in front of her and I would say

576
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: it and she would, you know, go like this, and

577
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: if I made a mistake, and that would.

578
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: Cue me to try again.

579
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: It was you know, you can get a live human

580
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: to just kind of bounce back. I had forgotten the

581
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: whiteboard thing when I was a Sunday school teacher, and

582
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: that was my favorite way because it was so really

583
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: so easy for me because I would just yeah, and

584
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: that way, like you're not just reading all or nothing.

585
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: You're taking away and you're practicing and reinforcing.

586
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: That was my favorite way.

587
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: I think I'm actually I have a whiteboard that we

588
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: haven't used forever. I saw it in my son's room

589
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: the other day. I think I'm going to actually do

590
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: that and use it for my Yeah.

591
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's a useful one. Or when I did

592
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: Sunday school, I think we even did this sometimes in

593
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: middle school youth group in order to incorporate more motion.

594
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: You would all stand in a circle. We'd have a

595
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: ball like a beach ball, and you would throw the

596
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: ball and say a word, oh yeah, and that person

597
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: would catch it and say the next word and throw

598
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: it to someone else. Because I am such a firm

599
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: below and I know it works two varying degrees. It

600
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: works for me so much better when there's a physical component,

601
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: and for some people that's less important. But I don't

602
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: think in most I don't think it's ever detrimental to

603
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: add the physical component. It's just some people it helps

604
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: them like a bajillion times like me, and some people

605
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: it might help you a little bit extra. But so yeah,

606
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: that would be I would say, if I really wanted

607
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: to add one more component for myself, it would probably

608
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: be in the tricky parts where I get caught up

609
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: learning some of the sign language or some kind of

610
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: hand motion to help me run through that.

611
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as you're consistent, it doesn't matter what

612
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: the hand motion is. You can make up whatever you

613
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: want as long as you do it the same every time. Yeah,

614
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: although it would be very cool to learn sign language, Yeah, I.

615
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: Mean, it'd be a nice way to learn some signed vocabulary,

616
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: so I may as well do it that way. Unless

617
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: there's a huge reason to make it a different way. Yeah,

618
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: So well, I want.

619
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: To hear your testimony.

620
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: I want to hear the part where you found yourself

621
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: unable to memorize scripture.

622
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: I've never heard this story.

623
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't until we started talking about Bible memory that

624
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: I even like considered this part of my testimony. And

625
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: I got super emotional even thinking about it, because it's

626
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: slight losing a sense, Like that's how significant it was.

627
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: So in our previous episode about Bible memory, I did

628
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: talk a lot about like growing up with a lot

629
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: of Bible memory, incorporated into our family life and incorporated

630
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: into my spiritual disciplines, and so it was definitely just

631
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: part of me and of like being someone who likes

632
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: to listen to music is just part of me. And

633
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: then I went to college and for a couple of

634
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: years I didn't have a church, and I was also

635
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: just really intellectually bombarded with so much outside questions, like

636
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: the questions that your son had. But it wasn't it

637
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: was never like is God true? That was never it,

638
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: but it was you know, think about every single like

639
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: liberal college campus and all of the questions that would

640
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: come at you. And if you've come from a pretty

641
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: sheltered Christian life, like you're just ready for all of

642
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: those questions.

643
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, taking like a New Testament and Old Testament

644
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: literature classes, and one of the professors was an atheist

645
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 3: and he wanted us to be shaken. He saw all

646
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: these young, wide eyed Christians and he's like, hey, guys,

647
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: this isn't a Bible study. This is a class. And

648
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: it was paradigm shifting for me.

649
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: Even to learn how non Christians would view the things

650
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: that I just never even thought about. Yes, it was like,

651
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: what do you mean that your God told his closest

652
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: follower to slaughter his son on a mountain? Like we

653
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: learned that as a cute story of God's provision and all,

654
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: wasn't Abraham so faithful?

655
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: We don't realize the actual act and what it would

656
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: have happened, And.

657
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and so yeah, it was just intellectually such

658
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: a difficult time for me. Plus I was so absorbed

659
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: in my studies because I needed to get the A

660
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: plus and everything. I wasn't okay with being a B

661
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: student at that point, and so like my brain was

662
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: just so tired, and I really think that's what it was.

663
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: Like I went years without reading a novel, which I'll

664
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: look back be like that is so sad, and because

665
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: like my brain, Like I did take some literature classes,

666
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: but after I graduated, like I went two years without

667
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: picking up a single book other than the Bible. It

668
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: was just my brain was tired. And so I think

669
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: those were some of the things, Like if I had

670
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: to go back and be like, you know, how did

671
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: this happen? A I wasn't being regularly fed the Word

672
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: because some of my Bible memorization, I was fortunate enough.

673
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: And I think this is just like genetically in personality,

674
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: like I could pick it up just by hearing it,

675
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, And so I didn't always have to sit

676
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: down and force myself to memorize. I did that as

677
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: a practice, but like there were a lot of verses

678
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: that I knew just because I heard them in sermons

679
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: and stuff. And since at that point I'm going back

680
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: on my rant, I was hearing them all in the

681
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: same version of the Bible, and I didn't have twelve

682
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: conflicting versions on my head.

683
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: The versions just or the passage just stuck.

684
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: So I wasn't getting fed a regular input of scripture.

685
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: I was still reading the Bible myself, and I would

686
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: still for a bunch of it, like there was still

687
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: like a dorm Bible study. I would ATTENDANTU. But there

688
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: wasn't like a church community where I was sitting and

689
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: listening to a sermon. So I don't know if that

690
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: had to do with it. I'm sure some of it

691
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: had to do with one hundred percent of my mental

692
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: energy was focused on schoolwork, and so maybe my brain

693
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: was even trying to protect me. It was like, you

694
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: don't have room to keep these memory versus in your

695
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: head and learn all of these nomenclature rules for organic chemistry,

696
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: so let's just put these aside, kind of like the

697
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: cleanup crew in Inside Out, where they're just cleaning her

698
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: brain from memories she doesn't need anymore. Yeah, I think

699
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: my brain, Yes, I think my brain was probably like, okay,

700
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: if getting an A is her primary goal, which at

701
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: that point it was, and I have to choose between

702
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: remembering this random fact about Raskalnikov in Crime and Punishment

703
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: versus what does Romans six say? Okay by Roman six,

704
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: And then I think we add on to that just

705
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, stress, emotional stress from being away from home,

706
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: physical stress. I ate really poorly. I tried to I

707
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: decided that I wanted to try to be vegetarian, but

708
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: basically that just meant I ate like pasta, like for

709
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: a semester, so like, you know, no veggies, no protein.

710
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: So I think I think there were so many things

711
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: that went into it. And then in addition, using my

712
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: brain and my faith together heightened this sense of unease

713
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: that I felt being in that environment. So again, I

714
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: think my brain was kind of like, Okay, we'll talk

715
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: about faith when we're not talking about intellectual stuff, and

716
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: we'll talk about intellectual stuff. You know. I think my

717
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: brain was trying to do me a favor by really

718
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: compartmentalizing the two. And so like I believed in God,

719
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: still followed the Bible, still acted like, you know, an obedient,

720
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: moral Christian girl, but I could not recall a Bible verse,

721
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: like it would have been hard for me to tell

722
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: you what John three sixteen said, and that's you know,

723
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the ones that's just you know,

724
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: from being three years old and up. And it wasn't

725
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: as if I knew that I had lost it. It

726
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: was more like so it's hard to explain. Like again,

727
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: I think my brain got so compartmentalized that it probably

728
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: just didn't think about the fact that I didn't have

729
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: Bible recall, and it came out. It came to a

730
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: huge head this summer before my senior year of college.

731
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: So for people who have followed this story on Christian

732
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: true crime junkies, I told my whole testimony of joining

733
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: a really abusive, authoritarian cultish church. This is the summer

734
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: before that happened, and so this is where it all

735
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: kind of came to a head. So what happened was

736
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: I went on a mission trip that summer. It was

737
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: a first mission trip, actually the only mission trip I've

738
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: ever been on, and I went to Russia. And at

739
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: the time, I had just taken the MCATs, I was

740
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: waiting to get my MCAT scores, or I think I

741
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: had just gotten my MCAT scores before I left, and

742
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: I had at least started the process of applying to

743
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: medical schools, and this mission trip to Russia was kind

744
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: of going to be like the one the one thing

745
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: I did before. I just like jumped right back into

746
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: the grind of a really growling school year and finished

747
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: up my senior year. And while I was there, I

748
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: was lying in bed. It was kind of like first

749
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: thing in the morning, I was probably jet lagged or something,

750
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: so like I was lying in bed but not asleep,

751
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: and the verse came to me and it said, do

752
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: nothing out of selfish ambition or rain conceit. And it

753
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: was the first time that God had allowed Bible recalled

754
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: to come to me in years, like maybe since I

755
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: left for college, like after high school. And it was

756
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: so convicting because I knew, like simultaneously what God was

757
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: telling me, and what God was telling me was that

758
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: my medical school plans were just selfish ambition. It was

759
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: just because I wanted to prove that I was the

760
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: best student. And in the early two thousands, what did

761
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: you do if you wanted to prove you were the

762
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: best student? You got into medical my doctor. Yes, And

763
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: it was so convicting. It was also difficult, like it

764
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: was it was a bagi things. Simultaneously, it was the conviction.

765
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: It was one of the heaviest senses of conviction. I've

766
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: ever experienced. It was also oh, no, my parents are

767
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: going to be really mad, So there was fear there.

768
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: And also I was worried about what the other people

769
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: that we were on this mission trip would say because

770
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: in all of the pre mission trip stuff. It was like,

771
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: now this is the caricature of what I was told,

772
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: So this is more extreme. Now you're going to get

773
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: there and this is going to be so new for you,

774
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: and you're going to get so excited about serving the

775
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: Lord that you're going to think he wants you to

776
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: be a missionary. But it's okay, it's just the emotions.

777
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: You're going to get caught up in emotions. Just know

778
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: that it's going to pass. It's just a face, sweetie.

779
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: That's really what they wear into cancers. I get is

780
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: an important warning. You don't want people to make rash,

781
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: life altering decisions from a heat of the moment emotional level. Right,

782
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: Just like I can't tell you how many people I've

783
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: met who when you ask them how they got to Alaska,

784
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: they say, well, I went on vacation here once and

785
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: either never.

786
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: Lever came back or yeah, never never went back home,

787
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 3: or yeah, or like went home, packed up and knew

788
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: that I had to live here forever.

789
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. It's kind of a trope.

790
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: I mean it is.

791
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: And there was that trope of being on the mission

792
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: field and thinking that God was calling you to be

793
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: a full time missionary. But oh, that's just your emotions.

794
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: And so I was afraid of getting pooh pooed if

795
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: I were to go and tell the people that I

796
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: was with that I had had this extremely convicting moment

797
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: because basically I knew it. I had wanted to be

798
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: a missionary from the time I was very, very little,

799
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: and the medical school was the nope, you got to

800
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: have an actual career. And so basically, as it was

801
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: getting downloaded into my brain to do nothing out of

802
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: selfless ambition, it was don't go to medical school, disappoint

803
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: your family, pooh pooed by the people on your mission trip. Oh,

804
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: and by the way, you're going to become a missionary.

805
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: And that side of it never happened. That's a whole

806
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: other story that had more to do with medical stuff.

807
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: But it was, like I said, the very first time

808
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: that a Bible verse came to me in years. And

809
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: so then I got home, I did have that renewed

810
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: thing that they warned me against and that everybody poo

811
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: pooed of, like I got to read my Bible, I

812
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: gotta do all this stuff. And in the same way,

813
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: I hate when people make fun of or belittle like

814
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: teenage crushes. I hate when people make fun of or

815
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: belittle like a spiritual high after a retreat or after

816
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: an experience like this. Okay, is that the way I'm

817
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: going to feel for my entire life about the Lord? No?

818
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: Is it a gift that I felt that way when

819
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: I got home from Russia. Yes, and so I was

820
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: spending a lot more time in the world. Now. What

821
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: I was terrified of was that I was going to

822
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: have to go and rememorize every single Bible verse that

823
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: I had ever known. But I think, really, when I

824
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: look at it, I don't think it was that the

825
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: versus left my brain. I think that they were just

826
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: trapped and sealed, and so the act of getting them

827
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: back it was scary and daunting. But once that safe

828
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: got opened, it first slowly came back and then it

829
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: was just there again. So it happened faster than I

830
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: expected it too for it to come back. But it

831
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: absolutely made me realize what a gift it is, because

832
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: I had just taken it for granted in the same

833
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: me that I don't look at my hand and be like,

834
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: I'm so thankful I have a hand to day right right,

835
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of how having scripture just you know,

836
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: I used like people used to joke that, you know,

837
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: that I was kind of a walking concordance because if

838
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: they would be like, what's that one verse about that

839
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: one thing? And this is pre google and I could

840
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: be like, I could either tell them it was or

841
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: I could flip into my Bible and find it pretty quickly. Yeah,

842
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: And to me, it didn't enter my head that that

843
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: was like the Lord give it and the Lord taketh away.

844
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: It didn't enter my head that that was something that

845
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: I could.

846
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: Have lost and might have been like, you know, maybe

847
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: you even were just like, yeah, this is something that

848
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: I made happen, as opposed it's probably to make this happen.

849
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: And so I deserve to have these verses at my

850
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: fingertips because I worked to memorize them, and I did

851
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time in the Bible in my teens,

852
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: and so yeah, there was a sense of well, you know,

853
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: I hate to attribute this to myself, but I'm sure

854
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: there was some you know, if you worked hard, you

855
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: could have this too, you know, But then to have

856
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: it just taken away and then given back with a

857
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: snap of the fingers was very humbling.

858
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: That's very cool, that's really neat to see. And I

859
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: think we can apply that to a lot of things

860
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: in our life lives that you know, you and I

861
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: talk a lot about the dangers of focusing so much

862
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: on the strengths of others that we don't recognize the

863
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: strengths and ourselves. And I think for you that was

864
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: a huge strength and a huge thing that you just

865
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Speaker 3: like you said, it's like, you know, writing with your hand.

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Speaker 3: You don't think about that hand being a gift? Do

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Speaker 3: you think about it as just how things are?

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's a reminder to be able to kind of without

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Speaker 3: having things taken away. If we could take a moment

871
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Speaker 3: and just reflect, like what are the gifts God has

872
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Speaker 3: given you?

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Speaker 2: What are the things that you're using well now for

874
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Speaker 2: His kingdom.

875
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Speaker 3: Or otherwise for you know, your creative process, your gifts,

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Speaker 3: your talents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think a good kind of listener holmework

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Speaker 1: could be ask yourself a Christian who knew you well,

879
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Speaker 1: what would they say, like, Oh, that comes so easy

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Speaker 1: for you, and you're like, doesn't it for you know,

881
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Speaker 1: kind of like Elwood's what like it's hard, Like ask

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Speaker 1: yourself what is that thing for you, and then assume

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Speaker 1: that that is a gift from the Lord, So a

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Speaker 1: drop any pretense of pride about it, but be realize

885
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Speaker 1: that there's a lot of responsibility. There was a long

886
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Speaker 1: time where I thought that God withheld that from me

887
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Speaker 1: as punishment because I wasn't walking with him like he

888
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Speaker 1: wanted me to be. And I think that there is

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Speaker 1: a sense of whoever has will be given much and

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Speaker 1: whoever doesn't use what they have, what even what they

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Speaker 1: think they have, is going to be taken from them.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, it's Jesus's version of what Uncle Ben

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Speaker 1: tells Peter Parker. With a great gift comes a great

894
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Speaker 1: sense of responsibility. So think about the one or two

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Speaker 1: things that are easy to you or at your worst,

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Speaker 1: what you might be judging about others for like, this

897
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Speaker 1: is so easy for me, why can't why can't you

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Speaker 1: do this? And then recognize, Okay, that actually is probably

899
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Speaker 1: a gift. That's probably not something I've fostered in myself,

900
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Speaker 1: because yes, I foster your Bible memory work. But I

901
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have done that if God hadn't made it easy

902
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Speaker 1: for me. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yes, No, I totally get it, and I feel like

904
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Speaker 3: it just makes me realize that there are things that

905
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Speaker 3: we might just be thinking like it's this isn't really

906
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Speaker 3: work of the Lord.

907
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Speaker 2: This is this is cheating because it seems so easy.

908
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Speaker 3: Of course, in order to serve God or to you know,

909
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: use my talents, I should have to put some skin

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Speaker 3: in the game. I should have to be like, work

911
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: hard and sacrifice and be a little bit miserable for

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Speaker 3: it to count right, right? And I think, while, yes,

913
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Speaker 3: we don't need to just be only focusing on things

914
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Speaker 3: that come easily, but I don't know to appreciate like, Okay,

915
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Speaker 3: this is how God made me. And if I love

916
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Speaker 3: doing this thing all the better, you know, let me

917
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Speaker 3: just keep doing it and doing it well and keep

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Speaker 3: working at things I love.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, yes, And if my story might be

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Speaker 1: you know me, I'm not a fearmongerer, but I would

922
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Speaker 1: not mind my story being used as a tiny bit

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Speaker 1: of And what would you do if God took that away?

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Speaker 1: You know? Or is there a chance that if you're

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Speaker 1: not using the gifts God has given you that he

926
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Speaker 1: might take them away?

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Speaker 2: There absolutely is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that he does it capriciously. But if

929
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Speaker 1: you know, let's say, if doing hospitality is something you

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Speaker 1: love and just comes so natural and you're so good

931
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Speaker 1: at it, and maybe you're even tempted to look down

932
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Speaker 1: your nose at people that it doesn't come as easily too,

933
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Speaker 1: And then you go four years or that ever inviting

934
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Speaker 1: anybody into your home because of this, that or the

935
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Speaker 1: other thing. Don't be so brash to assume that the

936
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Speaker 1: minute you decide to pick it back up again, that

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Speaker 1: it's going to be there for you. Yeah. I think

938
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Speaker 1: of it almost like how the ancient Greeks would think

939
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Speaker 1: of a muse, like the creative muse. They were seen

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Speaker 1: as extremely capricious. It was like here one day, gone

941
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Speaker 1: the next, and you never know, so you're always thankful

942
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Speaker 1: when it shows up. And I don't say that we

943
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Speaker 1: think of God that way, but I think there should

944
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Speaker 1: be a tiny bit of healthy humility when we think

945
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Speaker 1: about the gifts that we've been given. Just because God

946
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Speaker 1: gave you a gift today doesn't mean he can't take

947
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Speaker 1: it away. And that means that we do needs to

948
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Speaker 1: be good stewards of it, and we shouldn't be prideful

949
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Speaker 1: of it. And if you're not using it. There might

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Speaker 1: need to be a tiny bit of healthy fear and

951
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Speaker 1: just that uneasy feeling in your gut. Ooh, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm not living up to God's expectations for me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a really good point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, anything else do you want to add regarding

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Speaker 1: either just kind of spiritual gifts or back to the

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Speaker 1: Bible memory side of things.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I just I'm excited to be

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Speaker 2: back into it. It's fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm really glad that we got into that

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Speaker 1: discussion about it and I got kind of a reason

961
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Speaker 1: to get back into it too. Well. With that, let's

962
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Speaker 1: close with our blessing and an addiction. May God fill

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Speaker 1: your heart with greater joy than all the world could

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Speaker 1: ever offer. May He fill you with joy and his presence.

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Speaker 1: May God Himself be your joy and your delight through

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Speaker 1: sorrow and sadness. May the joy of the Lord be

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Speaker 1: your strength. May the Holy Spirit himself annoint you with

968
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Speaker 1: the oil of joy gladness to strengthen and encourage your

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Speaker 1: spirit to stay and forevermore.

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Speaker 3: And our benediction is from Psalm sixty seven, verse one.

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Speaker 3: May God be gracious to us and bless us and

972
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Speaker 3: make his face to shine upon us.

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Speaker 2: Amen.

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Speaker 3: We'd like to take just a quick second to thank

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Speaker 3: the team at Life Audio for their partnership with us

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