1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Hi from the Salvation Army. You're listening to Words of. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Life, the. 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: Words of the Life. Hey, welcome back to Words of Life. 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 3: Today is our final episode. In a four part conversation, 6 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: our host Bernie Dake added with some members of the 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: Salvation Army's Southern Staff Band. They had recently returned from 8 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: a ten day trip to South Africa that ended up 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: being a life changing endeavor for everyone involved. Thank you, Daryl, 10 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: Brad and Bethany so much for coming on the show 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: and sharing this incredible story with us. Learn more about 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: Salvation Army Music ministries at USS Music and darts dot org. 13 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: We've heard about the trip, all the things leading up 14 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: to it, actually getting there and getting things going, and 15 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: then moving out to a camp and being a part 16 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: of teaching one hundred and twenty plus young people all 17 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: about music and creative arts and scripture. But now you 18 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: leave the camp and you have opportunities to minister and 19 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: other facilities. I understand there was a children's home. I 20 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: want to know more about these things. 21 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, there actually were two. There was a small ensemble. 22 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: That went to a children's home for young people ages 23 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: zero to three, so very very young and by all accounts. 24 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 4: That was very moving for everyone who was there. I've 25 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 4: seen pictures, it's a different experience. 26 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 5: I know. 27 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: That was powerful. The whole band went to a children's 28 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 4: home for ages three to seventeen, three to eighteen, and 29 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: there were nearly one hundred children who lived there full time. 30 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: We did kind of a tour and learned about the 31 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 4: facility and then also played a concert That sounds more 32 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: impersonal than it was because it was extremely moving for everyone. 33 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: Basically everyone I talked to had the same exact experience. 34 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: You know. 35 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 4: It was kind of a chaotic, like most concerts are. 36 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: You're setting up and it's in a room and you're 37 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 4: trying to get it done, and then you start. 38 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 6: Well again, they wanted to feed us first. 39 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: They're always and always that's true almost, and I mean 40 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: it's lovely. They forced us to eat first. But yeah, 41 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: but as soon as as soon as it started. One 42 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: of the lasting impacts that I have of the entire 43 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: trip was hearing the kids sing back to us. We 44 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: played a couple of pieces that featured South African songs. 45 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: One of our good friends and the. 46 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: Basero moon player in the band, Matt Room, rote medley 47 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: of songs from South Africa, for example. The purpose of 48 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: that not only to honor their music, but I'll have 49 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: people recognize the songs and be able to sing along. 50 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: And the first thing we played, and I can't look 51 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: at Darryl, was one of their authentic songs, and they 52 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: were singing, and they were singing powerfully, to the point 53 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: where you look around the band. I'm a percussionist. I 54 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: can play while crying. Brass players, it's hard to play 55 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: while crying. You kind of need you kind of need 56 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: your whole apparatus to be able to do that. And 57 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: I would say probably half the band couldn't play by 58 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: the middle of the first song. It wasn't just that, 59 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: but that's what sits with me, and you know, talking 60 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: to people afterwards, and just the energy and the life 61 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: and the joy they had despite the challenges. 62 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 7: Internet particular Medley, there's a chorus that says, what shall 63 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 7: I render to Jehovah for he has done so much 64 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 7: for me? And to hear kids who have been abandoned 65 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 7: saying that with every bit of their spirit back to God, 66 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 7: I will never I will never forget that. I don't 67 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 7: know how I play through it, but I will never 68 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 7: forget that. Moment and that they are giving God every 69 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 7: bit of their praise and they have you know, one 70 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 7: of the worst situations that could possibly happen to a 71 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 7: child as being abandoned. And for me, obviously, well you 72 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 7: may not know, but I've adopted my son. So in 73 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 7: seeing all of these kids, I see when I look out, 74 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 7: I see him and I see this situation that he 75 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 7: could have been a part of, and for them to 76 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 7: give back to God, it changed my life. 77 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: There's no question of it. So, yeah, there is trying. 78 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 7: To play through that was a little bit tough, and 79 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 7: even trying to talk about it here is tough. But 80 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 7: I know that God was there for them, and He 81 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 7: has showed up through the Salvation Army to raise those 82 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 7: young people and to take care of them and give 83 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 7: them love, and. 84 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: That moment will always stick out with me forever. 85 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: As I understand it. For some context, the Savagnarmi has 86 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: a ministry in different parts of South Africa where they 87 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: run children's homes and they're very well known, so much 88 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: so that parents who are not sure how they're going 89 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: to provide for their children or aren't ready to be parents, 90 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: will abandon children in a park close to the savage 91 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: ARMI knowing full well that the officers and employees who 92 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: work there would collect those children and bring them into 93 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: the fold. Yes, and I can't even fathom that as 94 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: a decision that someone would have to make, but the 95 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: fact that we are granted the opportunity to raise those 96 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: children in a safe place where they will be introduced 97 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: to Jesus and have caring people around them for I 98 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: don't know how long, but I've heard many of you 99 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: talk about the experience there, and even one of the 100 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: other band members holding the kids, you know, And I'm 101 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: glad that you had that opportunity to see that. I 102 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: don't know if will know on this side of Heaven 103 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: how great an impact it had on you or on 104 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: those children, but praise God for that opportunity. 105 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: Hey, you're listening to the Salvation Armies of Words of Life. 106 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: We're going to take a quick, bad break and we'll 107 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: be right back. 108 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 6: I was deeply impacted by the leaders that are working 109 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 6: there in Southern Africa, who, with limited resources and often 110 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 6: as volunteers, fight for the growth and the development of 111 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 6: these programs in the church. My favorite I worked with 112 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 6: her the most. She does all the creative arts in 113 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 6: Southern Africa. Her name is Larato, and she's so passionate 114 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 6: and so hard working to get people up opportunities to 115 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 6: learn dances, to learn scripts, to learn how to write, 116 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 6: to learn how to qorey, have to give people an 117 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 6: opportunity to praise and worship and again when the resources 118 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 6: are very limited. And I was just so inspired by 119 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 6: that passion and that push, even as a volunteer to 120 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 6: get all of this work done so that people have 121 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 6: these opportunities and get to keep growing. And I just 122 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 6: I will take that with me that when I get 123 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 6: tired or grow weary of doing this, I'm just going 124 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 6: to remember how hard that they are working to do 125 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 6: the same thing in Southern Africa. It's like a sisterhood 126 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 6: that's across the country, fighting even harder than I have to. 127 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 6: And I was just really inspired and convicted by that. 128 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: It's interesting because I'm not the most natural messenger of 129 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 4: something like this. It's not my natural state to go 130 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: and tell people what I've done and what I've seen 131 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: and BURI us anything. 132 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: It's just not my natural thing. But I feel like 133 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: we just have to. 134 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: We have responsibility to having been there, having been given 135 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 4: the privilege to go to South Africa to see what 136 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: we saw, to experience what we experienced, and it's been 137 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 4: easier than it would normally be. I think in my 138 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 4: brain and my heart to share with people then normally 139 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 4: I just kind of like, yeah, it was good. That's 140 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: kind of my natural thing with a trip, even a 141 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: good trip, that's kind of what I would just normally do. 142 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: I feel that tug to not let that dwindle, not 143 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: let it die away, even in the future. Bethany's right. 144 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: The leadership there is powerful. People are digging in every day, 145 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: every week through trying times, and I admire them. The 146 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: thing that will probably stick with me the most is 147 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 4: the joy of it all, the joy of the people there. 148 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 4: Joy is not my resting state, generally speaking, and I'm 149 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 4: challenged by them to have it be because even if 150 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 4: they had everything, it would still be this way. But 151 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: because they don't have everything, it's even more powerful. Probably 152 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: everyone became in contact with I mean truly young people, adults, 153 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: older people who have been there for years and years 154 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: and decades. I don't, I genuinely do not remember a 155 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: interaction with a person in which there wasn't that level 156 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: of joy and spirit. 157 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: And that's that's hard. 158 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: I mean around here, I can you know you're gonna 159 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 4: come you have some experience somewhere where it's like, oh, 160 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 4: that person wasn't very happy today. 161 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: Nobody. There was none of that at all. It was 162 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: just pure joy. 163 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: And I think that the joy of the Lord that 164 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: they live in each day is going to. 165 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 5: Stick with me. 166 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 7: For me, it was definitely the worship. There's a quote 167 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 7: by gang Guy Victor that says worship is the natural 168 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 7: response of man to the supernatural presence of God. And 169 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 7: in every meeting, we experienced the presence of God. And 170 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 7: it was mostly through their singing and their freedom of 171 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 7: worship and dancing and laughing and hugging and interrupting people, 172 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 7: and it being a family filled worship activity, like everybody 173 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 7: was involved, kids, grandfathers, grandparents. 174 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 6: They would raise their cane as they're dancing and lift 175 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 6: it today. 176 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, lovely worship. 177 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 7: That's the thing that I got from that trip. And 178 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 7: I need to be free to give my entire worship 179 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 7: to God at any moment, at any point, and. 180 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: It's okay to do so because He's given so much 181 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: to me. 182 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 6: My favorite song that they would come back to, you know, 183 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 6: they were mostly in Zulu when they were singing these songs, 184 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 6: so we didn't really know the language, but our amazing 185 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 6: executive officers would send us a message saying, here's the 186 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 6: lyrics of what they're singing in English so that we 187 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 6: would know. And there was one song where we couldn't 188 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 6: get the lyrics, and so I was asking somebody what 189 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 6: does this mean? What are these words? 190 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: And they couldn't say. They're like, well, it's there's not 191 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: really words. 192 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 6: It's just they call it a song of muleholation where 193 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 6: they're just praising God with la la las and just 194 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 6: raising their voices without even words, but just letting their 195 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 6: whole spirit praise God and just coming as they are. 196 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 6: And that that was enough, and that one just every 197 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 6: time that happened, I felt my whole body filled with 198 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 6: the Holy Spirit, and just the power and the beauty 199 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 6: of that moment will always. 200 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: Stay with me. 201 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 4: I haven't danced that much of my entire life dance 202 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: and I'm not a looked at. Maybe I won't name 203 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: people in our band who you would not say are 204 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 4: dancers by trade, right all danced there. I can see 205 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 4: it people and just I say dance, it's not really 206 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: dancing for me. 207 00:12:43,280 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 6: It's moving, it was dancing, Brad danced its own record. 208 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 5: Order swanderthing for you. 209 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: I surrender all is surrender my. 210 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 5: Everything for you. 211 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: The Salvation Army's mission doing the most good means helping 212 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: people with material and spiritual needs. 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