1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Well, friends, Welcome back to New World, Old to a podcast. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here once again. We asked all 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: of you out in the Internet world whether or not 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: you'd be curious to hear about Melissa's progress with her 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: throid issues and the Hashi motos and how all of 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: that is going motives the Hashi motos. So many of 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: you expressed in interest in how it is that she's 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: been addressing all of these health concerns. But before we 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: jump into that conversation, we just wanted to bring up 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: an address because I'm sure we'll get some questions about why 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: it is we're not discussing this. We're recording this on Sunday, 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of breaking news about everything 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: that's happening down in Mexico. I'm sure by the time 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: we post this, additional information and details will have been 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: made known to everybody out there. Pretty shocking what's happening, 16 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: and we just wanted to express our concern and really 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: pray for everyone that's specifically vacationing down there, because how 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: unexpected would this be if you were just hoping to 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: take a family vaca, a couple of vaca and then 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: all of this turmoil begins. Very scary stuff. 21 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really scary. My sister was actually vacationing there 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: well the week after we back from Hawaii, so I 23 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: think she got back maybe a week ago, ten days ago. 24 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, scary stuff. There's all these video clips that are 25 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: coming out, like I said, prayers or everyone that is 26 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: down there or down there currently seeing like gun battles 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: in the streets and people being ripped out of their 28 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: cars and everyone's sheltering in place in the hotels, which 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: would be an awful feeling. Yeah, So we wanted to 30 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: jump to this health discussion regarding so many of the 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: positive results that you've gotten more recently with all of 32 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: you your different strategies that you've implemented with addressing this 33 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Hashi Moltos diagnosis that we encountered last year. You want 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: to jump right into that. 35 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Sure, let's do it all righty. So I was diagnosed 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: in October with hashimotos and it's an autoimmune disease and 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: essentially it's where your body or your immune system attacks 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: your thyroid gland and your thyroid. It affects everything in 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: your body and this can affect men and women and 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: so a lot of people have hashimotos that don't even 41 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: know it. I mean, they can affect up to ten 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: percent of men, but it's more prevalent in women, So 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: like one in five women will be affected in their life, 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: and then a lot of women will have it and 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: suffer with it and then never be diagnosed because doctors 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: just don't often test for autoimmune diseases. You have to 47 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: really push. It takes five to twelve years on average 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: to get diagnosed, so I don't know how long I 49 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: had it, but I just basically advocated for myself. 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: Your mom was also diagnosed very recently, and she had 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: no idea. She had run herself through the full gamut 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: as far as testing goes, with every reason right, and 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: nothing was coming back. Nobody landed on hashimotives. It was 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: more so you tho. I was like, hey, yeah, test 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: for this specifically. 56 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, And it was Nevea that told me so. Nevella, 57 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: after many many tests, discovered that she had sealyact disease. 58 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 2: And then after I had Micah, I started just I've 59 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: always been very cold sensitive, I tire easily. My hair 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: started falling out pretty much after I had kids. But 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 2: that's very for women, you know, they're like, oh, ever, 62 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: since I've had kids, I have half the hair I 63 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: used to have, and then we just accept that as normal. 64 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: But it's not normal. 65 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: Is that what you attributed all of this too? 66 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 2: Well after I had Micah, Like my hair got really 67 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: thick when I was pregnant with Mike, and I was like, oooh, 68 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: enjoy it now, like take all the pictures because I'm 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: about to be bald, Like I already know how it goes. 70 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: But three months postpartum, my hair started falling out in 71 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: the shower like a bad movie, like I'm washing it 72 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: and it felt like spiders going down the back of 73 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: my legs, just clumps of hair. And especially when I 74 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: dyed my hair, like it would just fall out and clumps, 75 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: which were I know, I am rocking the gray. And 76 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: I just noticed all of a sudden my hair like 77 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: I lost probably half my hair in a matter of 78 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: That's when you knew you had to take action. 80 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 81 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: I was like, this is. 82 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: Not gonna work, this is not happening. And then I 83 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: started noticing on videos that I was puffy in the face, 84 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: and I thought, like, I just had a baby. I 85 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: had a baby three months ago, no one. Yeah, I'm 86 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: puffy in the I'm retaining water, I'm nursing. But it 87 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: wasn't right like I thought, And then I thought, am 88 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: I having an allergic reaction? I started throwing away all 89 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: my eye products. 90 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Neither one of us really thought much of it, because 91 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: people were bringing it to our attention and down on 92 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: the comment section of so many of our videos were like, Wow, 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: how Roe, she just had a kid like come back. 94 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: So it was women that started saying, Hey, your throat 95 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: looks a little puffy, and that's how my throat looked 96 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: before I got diagnosed with hypothyroidism or Graves disease or 97 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: any kind of a thyroid issue. And I had no 98 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: idea that I actually had hashimotives. So my daughter was like, 99 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: you know what, let's just do a hash emotives test. 100 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: You can just buy it online because I asked doctors 101 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: and they're like, nope, nope, nope. They'll check your T three, 102 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: they'll check your T four, they will check your TSH. 103 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: What what are those things? 104 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: These are? 105 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: Like? 106 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: The TSH is what your thyroid? It's I don't like 107 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: know all the scientific stuff behind it, honestly, Like I 108 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: know that your body turns T four into T three. 109 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: T four is your storage thyroid hormone. T three is 110 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: your active Every. 111 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: Every time I started talking about this, I started thinking 112 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: of the terminator. Why T three T four, oh, terminator two. 113 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: They can do a lot of damage, like seriously, and 114 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: so they don't tend to check your antibodies. You're and 115 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: if you have antibodies, if you have elevated TSH, you 116 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: have low T four, and you have antibodies present, you 117 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: have hashimotos. So it's so easy to just check when 118 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: you're doing a thyroid panel, check the antibodies to see 119 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: if the people are actually dealing with an autoimmune disease. 120 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: But doctors won't do it right like and so my 121 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: mom asked and asked enough. She had to go to 122 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: three doctors to get one to finally test your antibodies, 123 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: and sure enough it came back she had all the 124 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: antibodies pairwered with the high TSH and the low T four. 125 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: So you'd highly recommend these at home test. Kids. 126 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: You can ask your doctor, like, okay, so some of 127 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: the things that you could be experiencing if you have 128 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: all kinds of autoimmune disease, and this is men and 129 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 2: women is going to be fatigue, mostly weight gain. I 130 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: experienced weight loss, which is kind of weird, but most 131 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: people like weight gain. No matter what you eat, no 132 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: matter how few calories, no matter if you're fasting, you're 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: still gaining weight. You're falling asleep in the middle of 134 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: the day, you're crashing mid day. We're told these are 135 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: normal aging things. 136 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Right, you actually thought this was paramenopause. 137 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: Potentially, I thought that, like, yeah, maybe I'm just going 138 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: through paramenopause. Maybe this is hormonal shifts. 139 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: And then you got me thinking because you're saying that 140 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: ten percent of men are also diagnosed or undiagnosed yep, 141 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: with hash emotives. 142 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: Men are generally undiagnosed with hashimotives, and something that. 143 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: Always attributed to I'm just getting older and so yeah, 144 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm more fatigued. 145 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so hashi rotos can cause low tea in men, 146 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: and so they'll say, oh, I just have low tea, 147 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: But you don't just have low te something caused low tea, 148 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: and just aging isn't always like that's not always the answer, 149 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: especially like if you're in your early forties or you're 150 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: in your late thirties and all of a sudden you 151 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: notice your testosterone crashing, or you're losing hair, or you're 152 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 2: gaining weight in your mid section. Heat intolerance and cold 153 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: intolerance can be symptoms numbness in your fingers and toes, 154 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: immune system issues. I'm trying to think of, like some 155 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: of the other things, let me see, I wrote them down. 156 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: I wrote a lot of stuff down because I didn't 157 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: want to forget things. So weight gain, feeling cold and 158 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: enlarge thyroid like in your throat, if your throat feels 159 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: puffy and it flares, and then like a little go down. 160 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: Hoarse voice like if all a sudden you feel like 161 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: your voice is getting hoarse, or you feel like I 162 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: had kind of a feeling of being choked, or just 163 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: it felt like pressure. 164 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: But you didn't really realize that until you began to alleviate, 165 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: right symptom. 166 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, until I was aware of it when it started 167 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: to go. Yeah, dry skin hair loss is a huge one. 168 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: Joint and muscle pain if all of a sudden you're 169 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: having this can be and then brain fog just overall 170 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: forgetting things, not be able to find your words, things 171 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: like that. And I think like almost anyone who's older 172 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: can go I have some of these symptoms. It's worth 173 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: looking into seeing if you can get an all over 174 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: anybody test, because there's so many different autoimmune diseases and 175 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: they're like on the rise. They're two hundred percent higher 176 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: than they were before nineteen eighty. 177 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Why is that? 178 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: You have to wonder? 179 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: Right, So we'll get into that as well. 180 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get into that a little bit as well. 181 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: But like type one diabetes has doubled since nineteen ninety. 182 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so I have not tested for this. You do 183 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: have me curious. So just rattling off so many little 184 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: symptoms there, it's so easy to be dismissive of these things. 185 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: Maybe I should take the test well, and so many 186 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: things overlap. 187 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: Well. The reason I bring this up is because I 188 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: think we as men, like I'm somebody who's very reluctant 189 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: to go to the doctor. Stupid of me, I realized that, 190 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: and that's true for many men. But you should do it. 191 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: You should stay up on top of things. You should 192 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: know where you're at, and you should know whether or 193 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: not you're able to alleviate any of the symptoms that 194 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: you're coping with. 195 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: Now, if you're going to a traditional doctrine, you're saying 196 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 2: I want this test and this test and this test. 197 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: Insurance is going to want to separate all those blood 198 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: tests are going to be like, Okay, we're gonna do 199 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: a Celiac test, We're going to do an MS test, 200 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: which I've done all of these. We're going to do 201 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: the Hashimoto UH test with the antibodies. We're going to test, 202 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: you know, all these things. You can go online and 203 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: there's these great little kits where you collect your prick 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: your finger, you fill in the circles. There's also ones 205 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: where they do the little micro needle. If you don't 206 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: want to do the finger prick, which you know it 207 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: hurts and sometimes you don't blame love and then you 208 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: can't even do complete your test. So now I've found 209 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: one that does like vials and it's micro needles and 210 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: you don't even feel it, and you fill your little 211 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: vial and you send it in. And there's so many 212 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: different companies. We've used one called every Well, which is 213 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: how I do my thyroid panel. I like to test 214 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: every eight weeks now that I'm doing this diet to 215 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: see if I'm heading in the right direction wrong direction. 216 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: So they do one, but they don't do an all 217 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: over autoimmune test, and there is a company that does 218 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: it's like a three sixty autoimmune panel and it will 219 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: check for MS diabetes. I'm trying to think of a 220 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: rheumatard arthritis, hashimotos you name it. If it's an autoimmune disease, 221 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: they test for it. Celiac disease, which our daughter has. 222 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: So it's definitely worth just doing it and seeing if 223 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: you have any anybodies. 224 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: Or nothing to lose. 225 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I had no idea besides my hair 226 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: falling out and feeling puffy in the face. And I 227 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: could have easily said I just had a baby, It's fine. 228 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: But Navella was like, no, mom, just take the test. 229 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: And she just happened to have a diory test up 230 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: in her apartment because with Celiac often comes hashimotos. 231 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: So and with her diagnosis, Neveda is like really really 232 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: into all this stuff. Now. She broke down the genetic 233 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: background on it as far as who can be a carrier. Right, 234 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: parent wise, we think it's mean, what was the reason I. 235 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: Got tested for the gene? So you have to carry 236 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: the Celiac gene in order to develop Celiac disease, And 237 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: so they checked me for the gene and the antibodies, 238 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: and I don't have either. 239 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: So by a cancelation, it's me. 240 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, by cancelation, it's you. So also the fact that 241 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: she has Celiac disease gives our other offspring a twenty 242 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: percent chance of having it because one parent has it 243 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: and a sibling has it. 244 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: So there you go. And I was completely oblivious to this. 245 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we didn't know. And it's stuff that you 246 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: just don't know, like people don't really know that, all. 247 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: Right, So we're going to jump into what it is 248 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: you've done to beat all of this. But you take 249 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: the test, you get your results back, you actually go 250 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: to the doctor. They confirmed this diagnosis. 251 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: If they did their own blood tests because they didn't 252 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: believe it. My levels were so bad they were like, 253 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: something's off. 254 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: The immediate remedy was to prescribe you level thyroxine. 255 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, love a thyroxcene. They put me on seventy five. 256 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: Micrograms. 257 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: Excuse me, seventy five micro Yeah, they put me instantly 258 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: on seventy five micrograms. And then I had three nodules 259 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: that were larger that they considered thyroid cysts on my thyroid, 260 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: and so I had to have those biopsy to make 261 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: sure that they weren't cancer and make sure. 262 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: That they discover those is all done through ultrasound. 263 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: Yes, they did an alter sound. Well they could just 264 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: feel them. I can actually still kind of feel this one. 265 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: It's they feel smaller though, yeah. 266 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so like the doctor went, oh, yeah, wow, 267 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: your thyroid is really inflamed. And then he went, I 268 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: can feel like a nodule over here. I can feel these. 269 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: So we did an altersound. I had three cysts on 270 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: my thyroid. He was like, they're pretty large. I want 271 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: to make sure that you don't have thyroid cancer. So 272 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: I had to have a needle aspiration. 273 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: And redocumented all that over a good experience. 274 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: That was not a funny to watch. 275 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: It was traumatic. 276 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: It's pretty awful having needles stuck in your throat. It 277 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: was fifteen needles, Like all you're awake. 278 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: Who to watch it being done on you? It was 279 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: like it was like a birth type of situation again, 280 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: like I can't do anything to help you. 281 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: It was pretty terrible. Sorry, yeah, I didn't like it 282 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: at all. So anyway, that came back that it was 283 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: just thyroid tissue, and so I thought, okay, I just 284 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: have like so much inflammation going on. Thankfully I don't 285 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: have thyroid cancer. Let's get to work fixing this. So 286 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: the ear nose and throat doctor that did the biops, 287 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: he told me, you need to double your level. You 288 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: need to go to one hundred and fifty micrograms. He's like, 289 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: I started you there and then I would probably end 290 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: up doubling it again. And I'm like, so basically, you 291 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: just go on level until it stops working, until your 292 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: body is like, Okay, that's not enough like it. 293 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: And this is really the crux of White is that 294 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: we want to focus and discuss this because it's become 295 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: so commonplace that we get so much feedback on our 296 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: comment section from primarily other women, again because MENO tests 297 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: for these types of things. But hey, I've been on 298 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: level for years, decades, So what is it that you 299 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: did to move on from the level fi. 300 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: There are films that entertain you, and then there are 301 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: films that change you. I Was a Stranger is one 302 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: of those films. 303 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: Inspired by the real experiences of Syrian families displaced by war. 304 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: This scripping escape thriller begins in Aleppo with a single 305 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: moment of tragedy and follows five interconnected families across four 306 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: countries as their lives collide in ways that they never expected. 307 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: This isn't politics, It's people. 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First of all, we can discuss the 321 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: results of you taking the level, because they were mostly negative, 322 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: they were not positive. 323 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: The level with thyroxine is a synthetic form of T four, 324 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: and because my T four was so low, so originally 325 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: when I was diagnosed, I had a TSH level of 326 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: ninety two. You want that to be abouto point five 327 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: to four point five to be in the normal range. 328 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: So ninety two was incredibly high. And basically that means 329 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: that my thyroid is working so hard to try to 330 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: produce hormone because my immune system is attacking it. So 331 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: every time it produces thyroid, the immune system goes in 332 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: there and craps all over it. And then so that's 333 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: why your TSH goes up and your T four goes 334 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: down when your antibodies are high. So my T four 335 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: level was zero point one, zero point one. It should 336 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: be point eight or one point seven or two to 337 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: one point seven seven, So you want to be above 338 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: a point eight, So being point one was like basically 339 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: non existent, Like I had no T four at that point. 340 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: And then my antibodies, which you want to be anywhere 341 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: from zero to thirty four, were at two hundred and thirteen. 342 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: So that's why the doctor was like two hundred and thirteen. Okay, 343 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: Now I don't believe this blood test when he took it, 344 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: it actually increased in that time, in that five day period, 345 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: it's spiked all the way up to two fifty six 346 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: more accurate, yeah, or it had just been longer, like 347 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: I think I was just on such a flare that 348 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: everything was just getting higher. So he instantly put me 349 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: on leveo and then the level thyroxine is a t 350 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: for it doesn't do anything for your antibodies, and it 351 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: doesn't do anything for the root cause of hashimotos. So 352 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm not really interested in just treating the symptoms. I 353 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: wanted to get to what caused my hashimotos, what is 354 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: the root cause of this? And so when I went 355 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: and did the aspiration test the biopsy, I said, yeah, 356 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go gluten free, and the doctor 357 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: tells me diet does nothing. Eat your cinnamon rolls and 358 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: take your medicine. That's what he told me. And I 359 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: was so annoyed. And that was before the biopsy. So 360 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: not only was I like in pain during the biopsy uncomfortable, 361 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: I was mad at the doctor. 362 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: When he said that. I glanced over at Melissa, and 363 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: do you see the age. I knew it was there, 364 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: which is why I think you glanced over at me. 365 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, We're not in the same page 366 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: with this guy. 367 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, yeah, you're not my doctor, Like this is 368 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: never gonna work. So he basically is in the business 369 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: of just keeping people sick. Because love with thyroxine. 370 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: As oftentimes a case yeah. 371 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: Is now the fifth most popular prescribed medicine in America. 372 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Really yes. 373 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: So there are millions and millions of people on love 374 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: with thyroxine and they all still feel like garbage. 375 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: So let's dive into that. Whatever. Some of the downsides 376 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: to you taking the level. 377 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: So the side effects of love with thyroxine are heart 378 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 2: palpitations of racing heart feat. I experienced anxiety, which I 379 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: think was probably a racing heart. I just didn't physically 380 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: feel it, but I did feel. I'm an anxious person anyway, 381 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: like I have contamination OCD and things like that, as 382 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: you guys know, bacterial OCD, like things like I worry 383 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: about getting sick. It's just something I have and it's 384 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: caused from anxiety. And it definitely upped my anxiety, which 385 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: I do not need because I'm already like and so 386 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: I did feel more anxious. It does cause depression in 387 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people. I didn't feel depressed because I 388 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: had just had Micah and I'm like on cloud nine 389 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: with him right now, but I felt very anxious about 390 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: everything that was going on with him that could happen 391 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: to him. I was googling things for all the kids, 392 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: like I just start Yeah. But it definitely increased my anxiety. 393 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: It causes insomnia, which is a side effect. It can 394 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: cause night sweats, which I was experiencing, and I thought 395 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: maybe it was just a hormone dump. But it was 396 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: basically like waking up with hot flashes, which is since alleviated. 397 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: That's completely gone now. I haven't had a single one 398 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: since going off of Levo. So the most extreme side 399 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: effect I had was I stopped growing body hair. 400 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: You were losing hair. 401 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: All of the hair on my arms and my legs 402 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 2: fell out, like fell out, and then I had like 403 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: five hairs on my legs, like on the lower portion 404 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: of my legs, like around my angles, where like it 405 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: was be the thickest. I guess I had like five hairs, 406 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: and so I shaved them off and for four weeks 407 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: they did not grow back. Like nothing. Nobody hair hair 408 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: like the hair on your. 409 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: Head was was. I was concerned because it was rapid 410 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: and it was it was a lot of hair. 411 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: It was so much hair. So the thing that really 412 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 2: bothered me about having hashimotives was the hair loss. Right 413 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: because you know, especially in women, but in men too, 414 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: because you know it shows on men, you lose it 415 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: in the peninsulas, you lose it in the bat on. 416 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: The way you're talking about. 417 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: It's just you know, hormonal hair loss, male pattern baldness. 418 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: Well women can't get that too, but women will get 419 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: all over shedding and where you can see through their hair, 420 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: and that is it makes you so insecure that you 421 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: don't even want to go anywhere. You know, like if 422 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: a woman has thin hair and you can see their scalp, 423 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: people like, oh, are they sick? What's going on? 424 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: It was really bad is when your hair was wet 425 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: and so it was kind of chunky. I mean you 426 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: you could see myself looked crazy. 427 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was insane. So and this was in October. 428 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: It happened so suddenly I went on the level my 429 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: hair started falling out twice as much, and then it 430 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: wasn't growing on my body, so I knew that it 431 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: wasn't growing on my hat. 432 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: Also, some of you had questions and concerns about whether 433 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: or not she was going to be passing this along 434 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: to Micah And if you watch it our most recent 435 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: Hawaii video, and we went to Maui he's got like 436 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: the George Coristanza horseshoe going on. We figured out that 437 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: he was also losing his hair, So not only were 438 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: you experiencing this very uh like massive drawback and symptom, 439 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: but he was experiencing it as wells. 440 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: By going on level thyroxine, I poisoning your body. I 441 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: asked every doctor. I was like, is this safe for nursing? Yes, 442 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: it's one hundred percent safe. We've done all these tests. 443 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 2: There's no effects on baby. Even if you chat gpt 444 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: it or anything like that. Considered safe for breastfeeding. They 445 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: actually up your dose if you're pregnant negative because they 446 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: want to make sure that you're producing fire because you 447 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: can do not do it. 448 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: Please do not do that, ye speaking from experience. Hair. 449 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: As soon as I started taking the love with thyroxine, 450 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: Micah's hair started falling out like male pattern bald. No, 451 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: it's like George kustans At the whole top of his 452 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: hair went bald. He got the thickest cradle cap like 453 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: I've ever seen, and we discovered that it was a 454 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: form of egzema. It wasn't like fungal cradle cap. And 455 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: then he got ezma throughout his entire body. He developed 456 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: a almost like a water allergy. Anytime I would put 457 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: him in the bath, he would start screaming, and then 458 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: afterwards his body would get these big welts all over it. 459 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: And then I would put the eggzaa lotion and that 460 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: would kind of alleviate it. But then the exma would 461 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: be right back, right back, right back, and. 462 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: Then again the second you stopped with the level, history 463 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: began the group grow back, and then he was experiencing 464 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: these same pains. 465 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: Well. I was asking the doctor, I'm like, could the 466 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: exama be from the level thyroxy? No, absolutely not, It's 467 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: not from that, I'm like, but it started the week 468 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: I started taking Levo and his hair started falling out, 469 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: like I could kind of scratch the top of his 470 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: head and his hair would come out in chunks. And 471 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: then I decided after six weeks, I went to blood 472 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: work after six weeks because they wanted to up my level, 473 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: so I went in. So this is November eleventh, six 474 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: weeks on level thyroxine, my TSH had lowered from ninety 475 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: two to thirty eight, and I thought, okay, that's good. 476 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: My T four had gone from zero point one to 477 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: point eight four now considered low and normal. But I 478 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: was like, so what Because leveo thyroxine is just fake 479 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: T four. So the blood test was only detecting the 480 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: level thyroxine. It wasn't my body wasn't producing T four, 481 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: It was just fake T four that was in there. 482 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 2: My antibodies were at one ninety two, so those hadn't improved. 483 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, wait a minute, So my antibodies 484 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: are still sky high, and all that's happening is I 485 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: have a fake T four reading, And because I have 486 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: a fake T four reading, my TSH is going down. 487 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: So a lot of people report, Okay, I'm on level thyroxine, 488 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: My TSH levels are fine, my T three is fine, 489 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: my t he for is fine, So my blood work 490 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: is reading normal, but I still feel like garbage. Why 491 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: And it's because LEVO is never going to get to 492 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: the root cause of what caused your hashimotoves or your 493 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: hypothyroidism or your grave disease. 494 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: You're not addressing the disease. 495 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: You're masking it, right, You're putting a band aid on it. 496 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: And so when I saw the antibody still high, I 497 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: decided I'm not taking another level thyroxy pill. They were like, 498 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: you got to wean yourself off it. I was like, no, garbage, 499 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm not taking it, and I'm not advocating for you 500 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: to do that, especially if you've been on a long time. 501 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: I had only been on Leveo for six weeks, but 502 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: if you've been on it for years. I do think 503 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: it's important to wean off of it. But your doctor 504 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: is going to fight you on that. You must have 505 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: a reason for them, because you can't just go from 506 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: something your body's depending on. 507 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: Some kind of like withdrawal symptoms. 508 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: I didn't, but I'm sure you would like I think 509 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: that it's important to wean yourself off of it, like 510 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 2: maybe do I don't know. You'd have to research it. 511 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: I'm not a medical professonal. I'm not going to tell 512 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 2: you how to get off I'm not going to tell 513 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: you to get off your med. That's something you need 514 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: to discuss with your natural path or your doctor. 515 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to tell you for sure. 516 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: How to wean off of it. I'm not going to 517 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: do that. So, but if you are experiencing any of 518 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: these symptoms, if you're still feeling like garbage, I know 519 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 2: that there is something called armor thyroid. It's pig thyroid, 520 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: and so you can get that through your doctor, so 521 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: you could ask to switch over to armor. They don't 522 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: like to use armor because every pig is different and 523 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 2: therefore they can't regulate the pills. They're all over the place, 524 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: like the levels of T four that it's going to 525 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: be supplying you with is not regulated. So the FDA 526 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: doesn't like it, insurance doesn't like it, doctors don't like it. 527 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: But a lot of people report feeling way better on 528 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: the armor. 529 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: So despite the warning that was provided to us by 530 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: the doctor that did your biopsy, you opted instead to passue. 531 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: But a change in your diet. You ain't complete page two? 532 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: You page two, You ain't complete the gluten free right? 533 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: What have the been the results here? 534 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so I made him massive diet change, massive massive 535 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: diet change. I have gone gluten free, dairy free, sugar free, 536 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: soy free, processed food free. I think that's it. 537 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: What's left. 538 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: Air, whole foods, Whole foods are what's left. So a 539 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: lot of people were like, you should go carnivore. The 540 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: reason that I didn't go carnivore is because I really 541 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: enjoy fruits and vegetables, and I do enjoy like a 542 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: good warm starch, like I can't eat pasta and bread anymore, 543 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 2: which was my you know, I am Greek. I like 544 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: the pastas and the breads and the old buzz you know, 545 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: like the euros and the spinacle bit uhs and oh 546 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: all the things. But I cannot have those things anymore. 547 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: So I still want to have some kind of a 548 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: warm starch, you know what I mean. Like, so I'll 549 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 2: break down my diet. So this might be where you 550 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: want to grab a pen or a pencil if you 551 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: want to consider some of these things. You don't have 552 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: to do all of this. I did all of it 553 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: because I figured, what's the point. If I'm already not 554 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: getting the yummy or aviolis, then I might as well 555 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: make sure that this is working, because if I'm giving 556 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: up bread and pasta, this has better work. And so 557 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: that's why I went really strict with my diet. So 558 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: I went off all gluten. I went off all dairy. 559 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: That's all dairy products, guys, which is really difficult to do. 560 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: I thought that I could still maybe have grass fed butter, 561 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: and I'm realizing that I can't. So that's the new 562 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: thing I'm giving up. I went off all added sugar, 563 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: raw honey, or monk fruit or that's pretty much it. 564 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: Monkfruit I don't like. I think it tastes yucky. But 565 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: if you can stomach monk fruit, you can have that, 566 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: which is like a grandul or sugar if you want 567 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: a bake or something like that. But raw honey is 568 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: pretty much my only sweeter at this point. That and fruit. Now, 569 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: I didn't go carnivore your carnivore for the most part, 570 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: it was I. 571 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: Haven't been doing a great job with that as of late, 572 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: primarily because Comin and I have been running, and so 573 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: I feel like I need just more carbohydrates in my 574 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: life for energy. See. But I've come on here and 575 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: explained before that the best I've ever felt by farbles 576 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: when I was doing Carnivore, we had the podcast episode 577 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: we did with doctor ken Berry. You can refer back 578 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: to that if you were curious about carnivor. But yeah, 579 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: for me and my state of being, I had fantastic results. 580 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I know that that's not sustainable for me 581 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 2: because I just enjoy all of those things that I 582 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: just mentioned, fruits, vegetables, and some warm starches. I know 583 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 2: that I don't really love me and I'm allergic to pork. 584 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: So if you're allergic to park pork, carnivore sucks. 585 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: We just found this out too. 586 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a food sensitivity test because any foods 587 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: that you're sensitive to are going to cause inflammation in 588 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 2: your body. And the whole point of this diet is 589 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: to reduce your inflammation. And so you also should do 590 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: a food sensitivity test. You can do that. I did 591 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: mine through every well also, and I did more extensive one. 592 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: It breaks down I think like two hundred and sixty foods. 593 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: I found out that I am absolutely allergic to pork. 594 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: Like it was like, do not eat pork. So if 595 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 2: you can't have the bacon and the ham and the 596 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: pulled pork and all that in carnivore, forget it for me. 597 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: Like I just forget it. I'm not doing it. No 598 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: bueno can do bacon. No bacon for me. So that's 599 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: that's another fun development. 600 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: As an example, can you tell us what you had 601 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: for maybe dinner last night and breakfast this morning? 602 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So for the only starches that I'm eating are yams, 603 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: sweet potato, and moderation yam's going to be better, and 604 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: steel cutoats that is not. They need to be gluten free. 605 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: So I'm using the Bob's Mill steel cutouts, not old 606 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: fashion oats because those are higher on the glycimic index. 607 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: You want steel cut because those are really low on 608 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: the glycimic index. Because something else that causes inflammation is 609 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: blood sugar spikes. So you don't want to eat something 610 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: that's going to spike your blood sugar really really high. 611 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: And that's just that's going to cause inflammation. It's going 612 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: to make your hashemotives or whatever autoimmune disease you have, 613 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 2: whether it's MS or arthritis or irritable ball syndrome, it's 614 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: going to make anything like that. It's going to make 615 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: it worse. And so you definitely want to make sure 616 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: that you're maintaining a healthy blood sugar. And so a 617 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: way that you can do that when you have a starch, 618 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: just to pair it with a protein, but also eat 619 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: things that are really low on the glassmic index. So 620 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: instead of eating white rice, I eat brown rice. Now, 621 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: something you have to keep in mind with brown rice 622 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: is arsenic because white rice doesn't have the whole around it, 623 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: the little cat thing. The part that makes it brown, 624 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: the part that makes it brown rice that is shed 625 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: off of the white rice. And that's the part that 626 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: it's going to hold arsenic from its growing conditions and 627 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: from its soil. So you want to know where your 628 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: brown rice is coming from. I buy my brown rice from. 629 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to say it wrong because it's super important. 630 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: I think it's Lundi Lundberg Farms. Okay. Lundberg Farms is 631 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: a farm in California, and you're welcome. Lundberg Farms not 632 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: a sponser. I just like the rice. They are a 633 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: farm in California. They're organic, and they are the only 634 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: brown rice farm that tests their rice for arsenic. It 635 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: has way lower arsenic levels then even just your traditional 636 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: white rice and all brown rice. You do not want 637 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: to be buying brown rice out of China or anything 638 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: like that, like cheap brown rice. Don't do it. I 639 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: know it's tempting. Don't get the organic rice from California 640 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: that is tested regularly for arsenic. Every single batch is tested, 641 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: and then you can even make it less arsenic. Buy 642 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: you put it in the pan and soak it, like 643 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: if you know you're gonna have brown rice for dinner. 644 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: Put it in your pan, cover it with filtered water, 645 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: and let it sit all day, and then drain it 646 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: and then rinse it. You're good to go. Like then 647 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: you're in really really good shape. So yams are way 648 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: lower on the glycemic index, are lower in sugar and 649 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: your body and higher and fibers, so your body breaks 650 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: them down slower and they're sweet like it gives you 651 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: that warm starchy to me, like that works. 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Something else you can do if you 730 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: don't want to add protein powder, like if you just 731 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: don't like it. You can just hard boil a couple 732 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 2: leggs or have some scrambled eggs with your oat meal. 733 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 2: You're really good to go in that department. 734 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: Does this required a lot more effort out of EA 735 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: as far as preparing. 736 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: Meals, Yeah, because when you're eating zero processed foods, you 737 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: have to cook everything. So what I try to do 738 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: so that I don't skip lunch because no one wants 739 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: to cook in the middle of the day, is every 740 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: time I make dinner, I make a little bit extra 741 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: for the next day's lunch, and then I put in 742 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: my little Pyrex glass container because we don't want to 743 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: be putting hot foods or anything that you're going to 744 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: be heating up in plastic. And then I eat it, 745 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: and then I yell at Jermy for eating it. Literally, 746 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: Like sometimes I will look over at ten o'clock a night, 747 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 2: is I'm going to bed night here clan, and I'm like, 748 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: what are you eating? And he's like, oh, it's some 749 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: kind of a yam concoction. 750 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, oh, okay, that has gotten better. 751 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: I did it a couple of times, I got in 752 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: trouble and then it stopped. I've gotten better. 753 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: It wasn't worth it. 754 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: I seafood and he's sitting there, I'm probably gonna eat. 755 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if it's something you can pop in the 756 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: microwation that looks hardy. He's like, well, I have to 757 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 2: eat that at midnight, like he has eaten my lunch 758 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: so many times. Or I'm like Jeremy if it's like, 759 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: don't so okay. Very common dinner for me is going 760 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 2: to be yambles, I call them. So. I take a yam, 761 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: I peel it, I dice it up in the little squares, 762 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: and I cook it with grass bed grass finished organic beef. 763 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: So it's very very important that your meat and all 764 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: of your produce, and especially if you're gonna be doing 765 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: yams and sweet potatoes. These are root vegetables, guys going 766 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: to pull everything out of the soil. And if you're 767 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: not buying organic, which literally the price of an organic 768 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 2: yam at Safeway was two fifty the price of the 769 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: regular yam was two thirty four, just buy the organic one, 770 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: like please, Because any kind of a root vegetable we're 771 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: talking carrots, beets, and any kind of potato is going 772 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: to pull every kind of heavy metal arsnic anything that's 773 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,479 Speaker 2: in that soil, it's going to pull into the food, 774 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: and so that if they're treating their soil with you 775 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: know the word. 776 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: Lifeless eate, glyce glase choices, glate, round up. 777 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 2: I tried for about a half an hour this morning 778 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: to just say the word round up. Essentially, if they're 779 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 2: spraying that on their farms, that's going to they go in, yes, 780 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 2: which they are, that's going to go into the soil, 781 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: and then all your root vegetables is going to pull 782 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 2: that into So it's just really important if you're trying 783 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: to clean up your diet to eat organic. Please, if 784 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: you can't grow your own, buy organic. 785 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: It's on this diet. 786 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: Since I've been on this diet since I did the biopsy, 787 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: so it's been almost three months. 788 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: And in monitoring your levels would have been the results. 789 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so eight weeks off the level of thyroxine. The 790 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 2: last blood test I did was January third, three months 791 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: on the diet. Eight weeks off the level of thyroxine. 792 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 2: This is diet and supplement alone. I'll get into supplements 793 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: in a second here. So my TSH was the same 794 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: that it was on the level. It was stuck at 795 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: thirty eight so it's been thirty eight since I started 796 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: the level. That is down two thirds from when I 797 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: was diagnosed, so that's still way too high. I need 798 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 2: it to be like a changing, big change. It didn't 799 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 2: go up. I expected it to go up going off 800 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 2: the level, and it didn't, so that made me happy. 801 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 2: My T four is ZO point five now, which is 802 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 2: considered low normal, but it's lower than it was on 803 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: the level. But it was point one when I started. 804 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 2: It's now point five. It has gone up five times 805 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 2: what it was and it's now in that normal range, 806 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 2: so I'm hoping that it continues going up. The only 807 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 2: reason it was at one point eighty six when I 808 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 2: was on the level is because my blood had level 809 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 2: with thyroxine in it and it was detecting the level, 810 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: So I'm assuming that my natural T four was actually 811 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: lower than it is now. So now it's only been 812 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: three months since I've been on the diet, and they 813 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: do say they say that it takes anywhere from six 814 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: to nine months to see real improvement, so it's still 815 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: really early on. But here's the cool part. My TPO 816 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 2: antibodies on our last on my last test after three 817 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: months on the diet are fifty six. They were two 818 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 2: hundred on the level. They were two hundred when I 819 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 2: was diagnosed, and now they're fifty six. 820 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: It's curzy. 821 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: So I've cut them by seventy five percent, which means 822 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 2: I'm getting that inflammation down. So basically, what when the 823 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 2: antibodies are high. The antibody spike when it has something 824 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: to attack, and so it attack your thyroid. But this 825 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,959 Speaker 2: is why you have to go gluten free, dairy free, 826 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 2: corn free. There's a bunch of things. Okay, So the 827 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: reason that you have to go gluten free, or that 828 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 2: I believe you have to go gluten free, because there's 829 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 2: a lot of people that say, Nope, there's no evidence. 830 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: I'm literally looking at the evidence, like I'm the evidence 831 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: that going on this diet and using these certain supplements 832 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 2: that I'm going to tell you about does lower your antibodies. 833 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 2: And then I'm going to do another blood test in 834 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 2: another month, which will be another eight weeks since my 835 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 2: last blood test, and I'm just going to keep doing it, 836 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: and then I'll keep updating you guys, because if I 837 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: start going in the wrong direction, I want to let 838 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: you know in case you're following along or you're trying 839 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: some of this stuff, and then if I continue going 840 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: in the right direction, I want to continue to encourage 841 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: people that are following along or trying this for themselves. 842 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 2: So the reason that you can't do gluten is because 843 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: there is a protein call I don't know if I'm 844 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 2: saying this right, but it's cleodin, sure, cleodin, gleodin, I 845 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: don't know anyway, It's a protein that is in wheat 846 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 2: and other gluten products that the molecule literally looks identical 847 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 2: to your thyroid hormones. So your body, when you have hashimotos, 848 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 2: your immune system will literally like put these little sticky 849 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: notes essentially on your thyroid hormone. And so every time 850 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: that it sees something that it thinks is thyroid hormone, 851 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 2: it tries to attack it and destroy it, which is 852 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 2: really annoying. I hate when like your body turns on itself. Yeah, 853 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: but it's doing it because there's something that's causing it, right, 854 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 2: So that'sought I would like to essentially figure out, is 855 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 2: what caused the hashimotives in the first place, or maybe 856 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 2: it's just genetic and it's just something that I have. 857 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: So every time that I eat gluten, and I have 858 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 2: gluten proteins floating around. My immune system is like get 859 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: them and it will way overproduce antibodies. I do. I 860 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 2: feel like I type flaify, I get puffy, my throat 861 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 2: gets puffy, my voice it's hors horsh horse, and I 862 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: just feel like joint pain, like I can really feel 863 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: it now, but I can really feel it, like in 864 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 2: my thyroid, I can see it and feel it. I 865 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 2: can go ooh, my thyrate's puffy today, like now I 866 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 2: know what it's supposed to feel like. And then I 867 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 2: can feel if it puffs, and it's really uncomfortable. And 868 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 2: so if you eat gluten, your antibodies are going to 869 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,959 Speaker 2: stay elevated. So it's not like, oh, I'm just gonna 870 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 2: take one bite of that cookie. You take a bite 871 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 2: of that cookie and then your antibodies are going to spike, 872 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 2: and then you're gonna have a flare, And so it's 873 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 2: better to just stay off the protein or I mean, 874 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: stay off the gluten so you don't have that protein 875 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: floating around, because then your TPO antibodies aren't going to spike. 876 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: What do you mean the stigma associated with going gluten 877 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: free because so many people out there scuff it and 878 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: myself included. Yeah, you know, prior to all of this occurring, well, people. 879 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 2: Say, you know, if you just eat organic wheat, or 880 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 2: if you order your wheat from Italy, Italy doesn't have 881 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: like navig this is all the time. Italy doesn't have celiacs. Actually, 882 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 2: Italy does have a lot of celiacs and they regularly 883 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: test for it because they have better medical than us apparently. 884 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: And so eating organic or eating all natural, I could 885 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: grow wheat in the world's most perfect little patch of 886 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 2: non contaminated soil, and it's still going to carry this 887 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: glidion protein, and so we have an autoimmune disease, not 888 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 2: a food and tolerance. And so it's different. No matter 889 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: what wheat we eat, it still carries the protein. It's 890 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 2: impossible to not have that protein in the wheat, and 891 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 2: eating sour dough does not get rid of it. Nothing does. 892 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 2: So the trick is going gluten free because then you 893 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 2: eliminate the protein. Now, dairy is very similar. Dairy has 894 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: it's called is it casin casine? Casine casine in dairy. 895 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: I believe it. 896 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: Casine looks identical to the gluten protein, which looks identical 897 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 2: to the thyroid protein. At least it looks similar enough 898 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 2: that it mimics it in the body, and so your 899 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 2: immune system is going to attack it. So dairy's the same, 900 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: and that includes all dairy products. 901 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: We have a lactose intolerant person in our family as well, 902 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: being Cail. So between me and I make my efforts 903 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: to do carnivore, you guys are your gluten free diet, 904 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: and now she has to follow this lactose free diet. 905 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: Our household is a mess, all right. 906 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 2: Basically the trick is, I mean, whole foods and no dairy, 907 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 2: no gluten. 908 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: Don't invite us over for dinner. 909 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 2: Just forget it. Literally forget it. We're going to bring 910 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 2: our own food and we just might as well not come. 911 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 2: So dairy's going to be the same thing. It's going 912 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 2: to trigger your autoimmune disease. And then dairy is really 913 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: inflammatory for all people. You don't even have to have 914 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 2: autoimmune disease to have dairy flare you up if you 915 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 2: have any kind of gut issues. 916 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: I came up in our discussion with doctor Ken Barry. 917 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, like we're not baby cows, is what he says. 918 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 2: We're not supposed to eat it, and even cows no 919 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: better than to eat dairy, Like why are the bowls 920 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 2: not trying to m And it's because like they know better, 921 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 2: But like human beings are like, you know, just ingesting 922 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 2: cow milk, and it causes inflammation in the gut, It 923 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 2: causes all kinds of bwel issues. It causes inflammation in 924 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 2: your joints and your muscles, and so it's just really 925 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: not that great for you. It increases acne, especially in teenagers. 926 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 2: So anyway, that's why I went dairy free and then 927 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: corn free, which is hard because the reason I think 928 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 2: I flared after Hawaii is because I was trying to 929 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: eat at restaurants and so like I order fish tacos 930 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: and they're like, well, we can't do flour tortillas, but 931 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 2: we have gluten free corn tortillas, and I thought, sure, 932 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 2: I'll try it. So corn and corn products, which you 933 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 2: have to be really careful because when you go gluten free, 934 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 2: you're going to be tempted to go to the gluten 935 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 2: free isle of the grocery store and go, oh my gosh, 936 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 2: there's brown easier in corn bread, and there's cookies, there's 937 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 2: gluten free oreos there's gluten free cheese uts now that 938 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 2: just came out. Those are selling for like thirty dollars 939 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 2: a box. Because all the Celiacs are rejoicing. But if 940 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 2: you're on, if you have hasheymotos or other autoimmune diseases, 941 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: then you need to be really careful that you avoid 942 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 2: these processed gluten free foods because they're really just a 943 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 2: chemical crap storm. Like when you start reading, it's like, yeah, 944 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 2: they remove the gluten, but they weigh up the seed oils, 945 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: they wig up the sugar. This is just highly processed 946 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 2: garbage food. Do not eat the gluten free mixes and 947 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 2: all of that stuff. It's just really not good for you. 948 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 2: And so a lot of it is cornflour, like all 949 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 2: of the like if you get like gluten free biscuits, 950 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 2: the red lobster gluten free biscuits. I know a lot 951 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 2: of Celiacs and people with the hashymotos are like, oh, 952 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 2: the cheddar biscuits are so good. Those are made with cornflour, 953 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 2: and that is going to flare you in the same 954 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 2: way that gluten's going to flare you. So you might 955 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 2: as well just have a regular biscuit, but really don't 956 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: have the biscuits. Pea lectin is another one, so peas, 957 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 2: which includes snow peas. So if you're going to be 958 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 2: doing a lot of fruits and vegetables, just you can 959 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 2: pretty much have any fruit and vegetable except for pea luctance, 960 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 2: which is in the pea family. You're talking green peas 961 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: or soy like you know atamamme or anything like that, 962 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 2: Well that's soy. You also don't want to have soy 963 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 2: because soy inhibits the thyroid hormone conversion the tea four 964 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 2: to T three. So just avoid all soy and then 965 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,720 Speaker 2: especially soy sauce because that has gluten in it also, 966 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 2: so no shoyu. So instead of if you're gonna be 967 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 2: doing if you're gonna be going out for sushi or 968 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 2: something like that, really watch those sauces. Bring I literally 969 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: travel with lick of coconut aminos. Coconut aminos taste similar 970 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 2: to soy sauce, it's a little sweeter. But if you're 971 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 2: going to be making sturf fries or anything like that, 972 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 2: you like Asian foods, coconut aminos that's gonna be your jam, 973 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 2: So you can do that. Again, no sugar, no sugar. 974 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: No sugar, No sugar that is going to it's gonna 975 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 2: spike your blood sugar, which is going to cause inflammation. 976 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 2: And then also it's just poison to the body. Nobody 977 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: needs it. Everybody should cut sugar from their diet everybody. 978 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: So raw organic honey you can sweeten with that. Honey 979 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 2: can spike your blood sugar. So of course moderation like 980 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 2: I don't mean like drink it by the gallon, but 981 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 2: if you're going to be like drizzling it on some 982 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 2: steel cutouts or over some fruit or you know, you 983 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 2: just want something sweet in your tea, that's going to 984 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: be what you want to do. And honey is an 985 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 2: anti viral, it's an anti inflammatory, which is great, and 986 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: I mean it's even an anti fungal. I don't know 987 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 2: why you would have fungus in your body, but like 988 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: it's honey, isn't an amazing thing that God gave us. 989 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 2: So you can always sweet sweeten with that. Seed oils, 990 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 2: especially canola oil or something that you definitely want to avoid. 991 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 2: That's another thing is when you start buying gluten free 992 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 2: products they're salt seed oils, like people will be like, oh, 993 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: I can have sweet potato chips. Make sure that those 994 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: are cooked in avocado oil, and that the only ingredients 995 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 2: of sweet potato and avocado oil and some sea salt. Oh, 996 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: and then so the main thing is just no processed food. 997 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 2: So for me, carnivore is not something that I can 998 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 2: do or want to do for the rest of my life. 999 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,959 Speaker 2: Some a lot of I know people are gonna get mad. 1000 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 2: That's very controversial to say, but I don't enjoy meat 1001 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 2: to the degree that that's the only thing that I'm 1002 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 2: going to eat for the rest of my life. And 1003 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 2: I can't have the butter, and I can't have the bacon. 1004 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: So it's not controversial. That's personal preference. 1005 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 2: Just personal preference. So for me, I've gone on the 1006 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 2: whole food's diet. There's only a few whole foods that 1007 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 2: I can't eat. I don't do a lot of cod 1008 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 2: codon moderation, even though it's a good white fish, because 1009 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 2: it's very high in io dyeing, which you have to 1010 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 2: be careful with with your thyroid. Also a very controversial, 1011 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 2: controversial thing to say, and I'll get into why. But 1012 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 2: salmon's really good. Make sure that you are not eating 1013 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 2: farmery salmon farmery salmon is some of the most contaminated 1014 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 2: food that you can eat. It is disgusting. They dyet 1015 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 2: the color that that pretty pink color. The reason and 1016 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 2: it looks so pretty compared to the wild caught salmon 1017 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 2: is because they add die to it and it's like 1018 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 2: so thick, and like everyone's like, oh, look how beautiful 1019 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 2: it is. It's so bad for you. It's so toxic. 1020 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 2: It has so many contaminants in it. So make sure 1021 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,439 Speaker 2: that you're doing wild caught seafood only. And then I'm 1022 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 2: doing all clean seafood. I'm not doing shellfish or anything 1023 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 2: like that. I'm kind of doing the whole kosher thing. 1024 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 2: And so salmon and halibit are really good thing. They like, 1025 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 2: really good proteins to have. And then all grass fed beef. 1026 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 2: Don't eat corn finished beef for obvious reasons. We're avoiding 1027 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: the corn. And then just grass fed is leaner and 1028 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 2: better for you. Lamb is amazing grass fed. And then 1029 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 2: you're gonna want organic chicken. And I like to do 1030 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 2: dark meat chicken because I'm trying to increase my fat 1031 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 2: intake because I'm having a really hard time holding weight 1032 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 2: on the whole food diet. If you have a hard 1033 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 2: time losing weight, this diet is going to make you 1034 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 2: lose weight. You literally cannot lose weight. If you switch 1035 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 2: to all whole foods and you cut out your sugar, 1036 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: your dairy, you're you're going to lose weight. My mom 1037 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 2: could not lose weight for anything. She was eating barely, 1038 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 2: I mean like the smallest amount of calories, and then 1039 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 2: she went on this diet and she dropped twenty pounds. 1040 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 2: She's like, whoo, So, anyway, this has been it's been 1041 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 2: really good. So that's kind of basically any fruit, any vegetable, 1042 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 2: any protein except for avoid the pea. 1043 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: So that's a lot of information. Grab a pen and pencil. Yeah, 1044 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: nice about this. And then as far as supplementation goes, 1045 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 1: you to run over that. 1046 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna run over the no alcohol is another big thing. 1047 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 2: Cut the alcohol, replace it with camma meltea. The reason 1048 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 2: I say camomel is because black tea and green tea 1049 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 2: have very high fluoride levels in which is something that 1050 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 2: people don't think about. Fluoride interferes with your thyroid tremendously, 1051 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 2: and just organic cammameltea has one one hundredth of the 1052 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 2: fluoride that black tea or green tea has. That's a 1053 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 2: good thing to have at night instead of wine. That 1054 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 2: was a hard one. Okay. So for supplements, supplements I 1055 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 2: want to be really careful on because you don't want 1056 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 2: to take a supplement that you're not or you don't 1057 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: want to up a supplement that you're not deficient in. 1058 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 2: So it's very important to find out what are your deficiencies. 1059 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 2: Go get a deficiency test. You can do them through 1060 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,280 Speaker 2: the mail, or you can do them through your doctor. 1061 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 2: If you fight to you on them. Do them through 1062 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 2: the mail, super easy to do. You get results in 1063 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 2: like a week. So especially iodine now it's very popular 1064 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 2: because there are popular people online that say high dose 1065 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: iodine for hashimotos. Please please be cautious with this because 1066 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 2: if you are not iodine deficient, and if you live 1067 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 2: in America or in a country where they add the 1068 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: iodine to the salt, it is very unlikely that you 1069 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 2: are iodine deficient. So if you are iodine deficient, that's 1070 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 2: going to hurt your thyroid. And yes, you need to 1071 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 2: supplement with iodine. But if you're using iodize salt, if 1072 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 2: you're just eating a typical American diet. You're probably not 1073 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 2: iodine deficient. Do an iodine test and make sure. Do 1074 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 2: not just start taking high dose iodine if you are 1075 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 2: not deficient, because you will make your Hashimotos significantly worse. 1076 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: Like it can be, it can make it so much worse. 1077 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 2: So please be very cautious with that. I don't supplement 1078 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 2: with iodine at all. I get a little bit of 1079 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 2: iodine through cod and I get a little iodine through salt, 1080 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 2: and I did an iodine deficiency test and I was 1081 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 2: actually like almost on the higher range, but still in normal. 1082 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,720 Speaker 2: So I do not want to add that to my diet. 1083 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 2: Selenium is going to be your best friend if you 1084 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 2: have Hashimoto's disease. Selenium is going to help your TSH 1085 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 2: regulate and it's going to protect your thyroid. And so 1086 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 2: I take all liquid vitamins except for two. So I 1087 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 2: do this in the liquid form. I go through a 1088 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 2: company called Global Healing. It's just where I currently found 1089 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 2: a decent deal. I take two hundred mcgs micrograms a selenium. 1090 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 2: So what I do is I take a little bit 1091 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 2: of orange juice, simply orange, because I don't want anything 1092 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 2: in my orangejuice but orange so I do a little 1093 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 2: bit of orange juice. I do two hundred mcgs of selenium. 1094 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 2: It's just a one dropper. And then I take fifteen 1095 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 2: milligrams of zinc and I also get that through the 1096 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 2: Global Healing Liquid. And then I do a vitamin D 1097 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 2: three K two. You want to make sure that you're 1098 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 2: doing your vitamin D with K two because it helps 1099 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 2: your body absorb it to have that that fat in there. 1100 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 2: So I'm using just the AG one and I do 1101 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 2: six thousand l us. So, yeah, it's six drops of 1102 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 2: it because each one is a thousand. So I do 1103 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 2: six drops of vitamin D. 1104 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that unit of measurement. 1105 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 2: I know, kind of weird. And so six thousand. If 1106 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 2: you look on the back, it'll it'll measure it in thousands. 1107 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,479 Speaker 2: It's usually one drop is a thousand. I do six. 1108 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 2: And I just did my vitamin D. I was very 1109 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 2: deficient when I started, and now I'm high end regular, 1110 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 2: so that actually really worked. And I do a B 1111 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 2: complex B twelve and B six, very important for hashimotos. 1112 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 2: So I do one thousand micrograms of the B twelve 1113 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 2: and ten my milligrams of B six, and so I 1114 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 2: found it just in a b complex dropper. So those 1115 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 2: are the four that I add to my orange juice. 1116 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 2: I stir it up down the hatch, good to go. 1117 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 2: And I don't have to take a bunch of capsules 1118 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 2: because I'm not one of those people that can take 1119 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,439 Speaker 2: fifteen capsules and not good stomach ache. So the only 1120 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 2: capsules I take is one little gel cap I get 1121 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 2: this through Fixer Brand, and I'll put all this down 1122 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 2: in the description below. It's black Cooman seed oil. It's 1123 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,439 Speaker 2: very powerful antioxidant for your thyroid and for many other 1124 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 2: things like black cuman seed is great for pretty much anybody, 1125 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 2: like any ailment, and it's very popular in Asian medicine. Jeremy, 1126 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 2: why because you're Asian, I don't know you guys discovered 1127 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 2: it and then I take instead of taking Levo And 1128 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 2: because I don't do the armor thyroid and do the 1129 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 2: pig thyroid, I want to be able to just buy 1130 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 2: all my supplements and all my medicine and over the counter. 1131 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 2: I'm actually doing rob bovine thyroid and I take two 1132 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 2: hundred micrograms of that and I'm getting it through Ancestral 1133 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 2: for that. So I mean, if you can find one 1134 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 2: place to get all of it, or you can get 1135 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 2: your natural path to prescribe the stuff like you could 1136 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 2: do that you can go just make sure that it's organic, 1137 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 2: make sure that it's a good But also again I 1138 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 2: will stress, please make sure that you do a deficiency 1139 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 2: test so you know where you need to supplement. But 1140 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 2: the rule of thumb for hashimotos is going to be selenium, zinc, 1141 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 2: vitamin D, and B twelve and B six. Those are 1142 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 2: going to be your staples that are going to really 1143 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 2: help with your thyroid health. And so other than that, 1144 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,799 Speaker 2: the only other thing that I'm doing is red light therapy. 1145 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 2: I know right it's the only other thing. So I'm 1146 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 2: doing red light therapy. I haven't decided if red light 1147 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 2: works or not. If you want to do red light 1148 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 2: you guys know that I'm on a get healthy mission 1149 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 2: and that meant going through everything in our home to 1150 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 2: make sure that what we ate and what we used 1151 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 2: was as clean as possible. And I realized that some 1152 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 2: of the biggest offenders were actually my skincare products and 1153 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 2: my makeup. So once I actually started paying attention, I 1154 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 2: realized that I was slathering dozens of chemicals on my skin, 1155 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,760 Speaker 2: which is the largest organ of the body, by the way, 1156 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 2: and so I dumped all of my old skincare and 1157 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,720 Speaker 2: my makeup for tubs and co Now, what I absolutely 1158 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 2: love about tups, besides the fact that it is so 1159 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 2: effortless and natural feeling, is the primer and the foundation 1160 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 2: not only have great coverage, but they actually nourish my 1161 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 2: skin while I wear them. I hate caky makeup. It 1162 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 2: feels heavy and greasy and it settles in all my 1163 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 2: fine lines. But tupes just feel so light and it 1164 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 2: stays put all day long. So today I am wearing 1165 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 2: the cream blush and the mascara and the lipstick, and 1166 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 2: I love their makeup so much that I just ordered 1167 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 2: the eye palette and the concealer and I cannot wait 1168 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 2: to try them. Now, my absolute favorite product that I 1169 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 2: use every night on my face and my neck and 1170 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 2: especially around my eyes in my mouth area is the 1171 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 2: Franknson's Face Bomb. It's very natural and hydrating, and the 1172 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 2: frankincense is a very clean and powerful alternative to traditional retinal, 1173 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 2: which I absolutely love. So if you're like me and 1174 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 2: you want to clean up your health and everything that 1175 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 2: you are putting on your skin without giving up quality. Definitely, 1176 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 2: go check out tubes and Co. In fact, you will 1177 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 2: get twenty five percent off your first order by going 1178 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 2: to toopsinco dot com sash old soul and remember to 1179 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 2: use my code old soul for twenty five percent off 1180 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 2: your first order. If you want to do red light, 1181 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 2: I like red light because it's warm and it's just 1182 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,919 Speaker 2: like my little ritual I do at night. He walks 1183 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 2: in and I look super freaky because I'm laying the 1184 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 2: red and lime all lit up for it. 1185 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: So the reason I'm laughing to myself, Yeah, he's fixturing. 1186 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: I walk in to the bedroom later then and she's 1187 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 1: just glowing in the corner. 1188 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 2: Yes, So don't go and buy a red light treatment 1189 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 2: off Amazon because there's so many Chinese fakes out there 1190 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 2: and they're literally just using red led lights and then 1191 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 2: jacking up the price and people are like, I'm doing 1192 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 2: red light like on the mass and everything that you 1193 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 2: buy on Amazon. So many of them are fake. Of course, Yes, 1194 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 2: So I actually I have two. I have one through 1195 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 2: Nova Lab and that's FDA registered. And you want to 1196 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 2: make sure that the wavelength of the red light is 1197 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 2: six thirty to six sixty and that's near infrared lights. 1198 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 2: And then I also have a thyroid one from doctor 1199 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 2: Weston Child's. It's just more of a hands free one. 1200 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 2: I feel like I look extra freaky with that one on. 1201 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 2: It's like a c callar and a like. I just 1202 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 2: feels so weird with it on that I usually tend 1203 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 2: to use just the floppy pad one that I got 1204 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 2: it from Nova Labs. It warms up, so I just 1205 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 2: lay there and watch my podcast at night after I 1206 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 2: get Miket asleep, and I put it on my neck 1207 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 2: for twenty minutes, five days a week. 1208 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: Well, the best is when you're putting it over the 1209 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: top of your head. 1210 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 2: I still yes. And then I treat my hair because 1211 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 2: I had so much hair loss, and I read and 1212 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 2: read and read that red light helps growing your hair back, 1213 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 2: so I stop dyeing my hair. I switched to using 1214 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 2: just like an all natural what is it called, like 1215 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 2: a bar shampoo and conditioner, and I have one that's 1216 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 2: almost like blueberries. It's awesome. I love it. And then 1217 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 2: I do red light every night on my head for 1218 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 2: twenty minutes. So I have the Noble Light Pad. I 1219 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 2: put it on my neck for twenty minutes and then 1220 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 2: I just flop it on my head. Now I know 1221 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 2: they sell cats, cats and helmets and all kinds of stuff. 1222 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 2: They're like a thousand bucks. This thing was like two 1223 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 2: hundred bucks. 1224 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: There's nothing hotter than walking in on your wife. 1225 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 2: It's better than a ball. 1226 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: She's glowing. 1227 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 2: I'm literally glowing. 1228 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: With this little bonnet of red light. 1229 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 2: So I just take it and I set it on 1230 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 2: my head for twenty minutes. And I've been doing this 1231 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 2: now for ninety days. And my hair growth is insane, insane, 1232 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 2: So like I've had a lot of people be like, 1233 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 2: you need to get control of your flyways. I can't 1234 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 2: because it literally looks like somebody came in with scissors 1235 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 2: and cut half of my hair to two inches long. 1236 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 2: So anywhere I part my hair, I have like this 1237 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 2: mohawk of two inch hair, And especially like in the 1238 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 2: Peninsula areas, like I am growing all this weird little 1239 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 2: two inch hair all over my head. So now I 1240 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 2: went from having a very wide part a couple weeks ago, 1241 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 2: like my part was widening in. It was freaking me out. 1242 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: You get a butt crack on the top of your head, 1243 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: it was bad. 1244 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 2: And now it all filled in. Like my mom was like, oh, 1245 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 2: my gosh, your part's normal again. I'm like, yes, I 1246 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 2: like when I part my hair to the side, it's 1247 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 2: just like this two inch like. 1248 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: So to try and encourage me to use it because 1249 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm balding as well. 1250 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 2: Well, Jeremy keeps growing his hair longer and longer and longer. 1251 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: To try this has been quite the endeavor. Not only 1252 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: do you have all this red light, you have that 1253 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: stupid electron comb. 1254 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 2: And really I haven't gotten into that. I tried it 1255 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 2: like three times. It like literally shocked me. 1256 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 1257 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Now I'm scared. So just red light. It's warm, it's relaxing. 1258 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 2: If you're watching TV at night, you do you twenty 1259 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 2: minutes on your neck, you flop that sucker on your head, 1260 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 2: you do twenty minutes. I don't know if it works 1261 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 2: or not. It could be the diet, it could be 1262 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 2: the supplements. It could be that I just got my 1263 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 2: inflammation down, or it could be the red light working. 1264 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 2: The problem is I'm doing so many things said, I 1265 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 2: don't know what's working and what's not, but I know 1266 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 2: that it's working. So maybe in time I stopped doing 1267 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 2: red light and I see if I you know, maybe 1268 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 2: that's not even what's doing it. I'll probably do this 1269 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 2: diet for the rest of my life. I'm just going 1270 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 2: to stick to organic, whole food, so that's good for it, 1271 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 2: feel good on it. I used to always have acne 1272 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 2: from the time that I went through puberty to three 1273 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 2: months ago, so it was a bit and I always 1274 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 2: had hormonal breaks out saw my chin and my jawline. 1275 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 2: Especially as I started getting older. I thought like, oh, 1276 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 2: this is perimenopause. What's going on. I was getting like 1277 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 2: a lot of like hormonal breakouts. All of that's gone. 1278 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 2: It's just been it's just been good. Like I feel good. 1279 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 2: I feel like my skin is glowier, it's way more moisturized. 1280 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 2: I used to have like really dried elbows and heels 1281 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 2: and that's all gone away. And so I don't know, 1282 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 2: I feel good. I just think, you know, even if 1283 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't. I was told if by three doctors that 1284 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 2: I'm never going to go into remission and then I 1285 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 2: can't cure this, that I have to be on medicine 1286 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 2: for the rest of my life, and I just decided 1287 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 2: that I didn't want that to be my story. And 1288 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 2: if there's any way to go into remission and heal this, 1289 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to find it. So this is a journey. 1290 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,439 Speaker 2: I'm clearly not in remission because my antibodies are still 1291 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 2: fifty six, but they're down by seventy five percent. It's 1292 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 2: only been three months. So I'm going to test again 1293 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 2: in a month, and then I'm going to test again 1294 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 2: eight weeks later, and then I'm going to keep doing 1295 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 2: this and I'm going to keep adjusting and if I 1296 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 2: can figure it out, I want to make sure that 1297 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 2: I share it because literally hundreds of you guys wrote 1298 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 2: me and said, I've been on level for years and 1299 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 2: I still feel like garbage. What are you doing? 1300 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, a lot of people have taken notice of 1301 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 1: how good you've been looking and feeling, and a lot 1302 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 1: of people are very accepting on the fact that, hey, 1303 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 1: I'll just have to be on this medication for the 1304 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 1: rest of my life, but know that there is an 1305 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: alternative means of trying to address this, and regardless of 1306 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 1: whether or not you're actually you know, put your hush 1307 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 1: modils in a remission. It's a great diet. Yeah, that's what. 1308 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 2: Like the one doctor that actually listens and does like 1309 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 2: the blood tests, the one guy in town. Actually he 1310 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 2: was like I was describing the diet to him, and 1311 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 2: he goes that literally sounds like the world's best diet. Yeah, 1312 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 2: He's like, so, I mean you can if you want 1313 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of something sweet, you can have ninety percent. 1314 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 2: Or I won't eat anything that's under eighty eight percent 1315 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 2: cacao chocolate, like dark dark chocolate with like a little 1316 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 2: bit of dried fruit and not sugar added, dried fruit, 1317 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 2: just you know, just mango, only dried fruit. I love 1318 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 2: like a couple chunks of dried mango at night, A 1319 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 2: little bit of chocolate, my cammelt. I'm a happy camper. So, 1320 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 2: and you feel good, and nothing tastes better than feeling good. 1321 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,959 Speaker 2: Feels And when you have children or you have grandchildren, 1322 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 2: you want to be present for them. You want to 1323 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 2: be alive and well for them. And so we want 1324 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 2: to do everything we can. And is this fool proof? 1325 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 1: No? 1326 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 2: Is Have I found one hundred percent success in this yet? No? 1327 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 1: But you thought improvement. 1328 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 2: I found improvement. I feel better, and so I want 1329 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 2: to share it. And I know that it's not going 1330 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 2: to hurt you. Going on a whole food, non process, 1331 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,959 Speaker 2: no sugar, no gluten, no dairy diet is not going 1332 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 2: to hurt you, it's only going to help you. So 1333 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 2: even if you have no autoimmune issues at all, this 1334 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 2: diet's going to make you feel really good. And so 1335 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 2: I'm really encouraging people to try it. And then even 1336 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 2: Kaimani's like, you haven't, And like tonight he was like, 1337 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 2: I just want to have a really clean dinner, mom, 1338 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 2: can like, can we just do? So we're doing organic 1339 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 2: bison that's grass fed, yams and probably some girled zucchini 1340 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 2: and like a big salad and he was just like, yeah, 1341 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to eat that. Like So I love seeing 1342 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 2: that our kids are are wanting to eat clean too. 1343 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 2: Because he noticed I told him just go off sugar 1344 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 2: and dairy for like a couple of weeks, and because 1345 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 2: he's really insecure about acne, right, and then he's like, 1346 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, mom my skin and his skin is 1347 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 2: clearing up significantly. 1348 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,800 Speaker 1: But it has a massive impact on your health and 1349 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 1: with all with all your healthy nothing yep. 1350 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 2: And then we went to white started eating like garbage 1351 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 2: again and his face flared up. 1352 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we all feel like crap when you eat like crap. 1353 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's true for all of us. So a 1354 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: lot of really good information you want to stick as 1355 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: much of that as you can on the description of 1356 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: this episode. 1357 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm goodness, it's going to be a really long description. 1358 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 2: So if you took notes or you can watch this 1359 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 2: over again and try to catch some stuff. You don't 1360 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 2: have to do it all, and you don't have to 1361 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 2: do it all at once. It can be a transition. 1362 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 2: But you know, like if you're giving up some of 1363 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 2: your favorite things, you want to make sure it works. 1364 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 2: So I say, go for it, give it a try, 1365 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 2: give it ninety days and see if you like it. 1366 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 2: I think you're going to notice weight loss, You're going 1367 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 2: to notice your brain fog going away. You're going to 1368 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 2: notice your joints feeling better, and you're just going to 1369 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 2: you're going to sleep better. You're just going to feel better. 1370 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 2: So make sure you're drinking lots of water. And I 1371 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,600 Speaker 2: think that's it. That's that's it. But I'll keep you 1372 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 2: guys updated. I'm going to do another blood test in 1373 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 2: a month and I'll let you know where everything's headed 1374 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 2: because I want this to be a journey that I'm 1375 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 2: on with you guys, so that we can I'll help 1376 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 2: one another. 1377 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 1: There you go, Like I said, a lot of really 1378 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 1: good information. Hopefully somebody out there finds that useful. I'd 1379 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 1: realize that this is a very niche thing, but with 1380 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 1: floating this idea out there for all of you, so 1381 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 1: may you got back to us with like, yeah, I'm 1382 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: really curious about what Melissa's doing. She looks great. Clearly 1383 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 1: she's feeling great. So again, I hope that somebody out 1384 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: there finds this all very beneficial. We will be back 1385 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: in here next week. Correct. Until then, you guys, take care, 1386 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 1: God blessed, We love you, thanks for being here. We'll 1387 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 1: see you next week.