1 00:00:02,750 --> 00:00:12,270 Speaker 1: Life Audio This life gets hard, but move forward. 2 00:00:10,890 --> 00:00:12,170 Speaker 2: To brighter days. 3 00:00:13,410 --> 00:00:21,110 Speaker 3: This chapter is long, but remember to turn the page. 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,660 Speaker 4: Welcome back to The Real Deal Podcast with Abbey Johnson 5 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,980 Speaker 4: and Regan Long, where we deliver the real deal to 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,139 Speaker 4: y'all and completely unfiltered. 7 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,750 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back. It's been so long. 8 00:00:43,790 --> 00:00:45,949 Speaker 4: It's been so long. Abbey, do you want to know, 9 00:00:45,970 --> 00:00:50,370 Speaker 4: I looked in our studio here. Our people are so, 10 00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:54,820 Speaker 4: our viewers are so, are so mad at us. 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,300 Speaker 3: Do you know the last time we recorded? Just take 12 00:00:57,340 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: a guess. Just guess. 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: What is the month now? 14 00:01:02,780 --> 00:01:03,860 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. 15 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,500 Speaker 1: Definitely not. 16 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: So it is the end of August, guys. 17 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:07,070 Speaker 1: And.... 18 00:01:08,750 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: February. 19 00:01:10,330 --> 00:01:13,390 Speaker 3: No, we're beating it. It was late April. 20 00:01:13,630 --> 00:01:16,050 Speaker 2: Okay. 21 00:01:16,350 --> 00:01:16,890 Speaker 1: All right. 22 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:17,510 Speaker 3: February. 23 00:01:19,330 --> 00:01:21,610 Speaker 2: It's been a while. 24 00:01:22,270 --> 00:01:24,809 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. What we need to do, Abby, we 25 00:01:24,850 --> 00:01:27,690 Speaker 3: need to come up with like some contraption of just 26 00:01:28,350 --> 00:01:30,870 Speaker 3: when Abby and I like get on the phone, we 27 00:01:30,910 --> 00:01:36,950 Speaker 3: just need to like record those episodes. Like these conversations. 28 00:01:37,530 --> 00:01:41,330 Speaker 3: We'd have like the trending top 10 podcast ever. I 29 00:01:41,370 --> 00:01:42,830 Speaker 3: can guarantee you that. 30 00:01:44,790 --> 00:01:45,190 Speaker 1: Yeah. 31 00:01:46,209 --> 00:01:47,380 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,660 Speaker 4: We're just, Literally, sometimes I like, you know, the only 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,740 Speaker 4: bad thing about a podcast, Abby, especially for our people 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: who listen just like on Apple and Spotify. The one 35 00:01:59,110 --> 00:02:02,590 Speaker 4: thing that I really miss is when we always used 36 00:02:02,610 --> 00:02:05,510 Speaker 4: to go live on Facebook because everybody could see us. 37 00:02:05,650 --> 00:02:08,150 Speaker 4: And I feel that's just like so much more personal. 38 00:02:08,169 --> 00:02:08,990 Speaker 1: I know. 39 00:02:09,010 --> 00:02:13,850 Speaker 4: And like, you know, we very rarely looked cute or 40 00:02:13,910 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: dressed up and people just loved seeing us looking halfway. 41 00:02:18,490 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 4: Homeless looking and no makeup and messy buns and tangled hair. 42 00:02:23,419 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: That's how I look right now. 43 00:02:25,180 --> 00:02:29,220 Speaker 3: Both of us. I'm describing both of us right now. 44 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:33,830 Speaker 4: Abby, I wore this yesterday. Well, I did shower mid-afternoon. 45 00:02:33,870 --> 00:02:36,810 Speaker 4: I put it on mid-afternoon after my shower. 46 00:02:37,150 --> 00:02:40,169 Speaker 3: Wore it to bed. It's 1130 the next morning. I'm 47 00:02:40,190 --> 00:02:42,410 Speaker 3: still rocking it. It's still holding up good. 48 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah. 49 00:02:44,780 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: I was like. 50 00:02:45,889 --> 00:02:48,089 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, you know what, I'm going to do 51 00:02:48,130 --> 00:02:54,419 Speaker 1: my hair at, you know, one day. So that way 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,940 Speaker 1: it'll look good for like several days, you know, so 53 00:02:58,970 --> 00:03:00,510 Speaker 1: I don't have to like fix it. 54 00:03:01,060 --> 00:03:01,220 Speaker 3: Yeah. 55 00:03:01,419 --> 00:03:03,899 Speaker 4: I don't know how that works for some of you women. 56 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,700 Speaker 4: And you all can wash your hair just like, I 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,380 Speaker 4: don't know. 58 00:03:07,460 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: Once or twice a week. So I understand. 59 00:03:08,780 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like, oh, I've got a good outfit. 60 00:03:11,380 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: So I'm going to really wear this out for several days. 61 00:03:17,260 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: I need to wear this out as much as possible, literally. Oh, 62 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,260 Speaker 3: my gosh. It's so wild. 63 00:03:25,580 --> 00:03:29,139 Speaker 4: Well, for both of us, I know we have mothers 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,940 Speaker 4: across the country. You know, Abby's in Texas. I'm in 65 00:03:32,980 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: North Carolina. And I'm not sure. I mean, of course, 66 00:03:39,110 --> 00:03:44,310 Speaker 4: it always varies back to school. But our kids in 67 00:03:44,350 --> 00:03:47,630 Speaker 4: both these states started unusually early this year. 68 00:03:47,970 --> 00:03:48,110 Speaker 2: Yeah. 69 00:03:48,150 --> 00:03:48,350 Speaker 3: Right? 70 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:49,670 Speaker 2: Yeah. 71 00:03:50,070 --> 00:03:50,690 Speaker 1: Very early. 72 00:03:50,850 --> 00:03:52,690 Speaker 3: Like second week of August early. 73 00:03:52,730 --> 00:04:00,130 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's super early. And actually, funny, because I don't know. Okay. Okay. 74 00:04:02,150 --> 00:04:04,650 Speaker 2: So Fulton and KJ are both in first grade. 75 00:04:05,130 --> 00:04:05,390 Speaker 1: Yes. 76 00:04:06,570 --> 00:04:11,410 Speaker 2: Okay. We did not have any homework in kindergarten. 77 00:04:12,050 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. Did KJ bring homework home in kindergarten? No. Okay. No. 78 00:04:16,620 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: All right. We didn't either. So this year, they have 79 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:26,070 Speaker 1: some kind of spelling homework every night. Okay. 80 00:04:26,089 --> 00:04:28,150 Speaker 2: Some kind of spelling thing they have to do every night. 81 00:04:29,390 --> 00:04:35,130 Speaker 1: So- We get, I get this like, and every day 82 00:04:35,210 --> 00:04:37,830 Speaker 1: he comes home with a folder and like a color 83 00:04:37,950 --> 00:04:40,020 Speaker 1: colored in, you know, like, oh, he did a good 84 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:40,740 Speaker 1: job today. 85 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,980 Speaker 3: Like. Right, right. 86 00:04:42,060 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: Purple, great choices, you know, whatever. 87 00:04:44,540 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 88 00:04:45,660 --> 00:04:49,100 Speaker 1: So like a couple of days ago he comes home 89 00:04:50,339 --> 00:04:54,219 Speaker 1: and it's on yellow, which means he had like a warning. Okay. 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,700 Speaker 2: Okay. And which is not Fulton's disposition. 91 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: Okay. 92 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,460 Speaker 3: Other kids. Yeah. 93 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:03,260 Speaker 2: They were on yellow a lot. Okay. 94 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:03,619 Speaker 1: Right. 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,460 Speaker 2: Fulton is like always on the great choices. 96 00:05:07,060 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: The little most joyful kid in the universe. 97 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:12,420 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay. 98 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,060 Speaker 1: And so then it says homework question mark on the, 99 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:18,740 Speaker 1: on the yellow thing. 100 00:05:18,779 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: And I'm like, what do you mean? Like doing homework. 101 00:05:23,060 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: Right. 102 00:05:23,380 --> 00:05:26,810 Speaker 2: Like every night. I don't like we're, What do you mean? 103 00:05:26,930 --> 00:05:27,190 Speaker 1: Okay. 104 00:05:27,550 --> 00:05:29,410 Speaker 3: My seven-year-old that you have for eight hours. 105 00:05:29,510 --> 00:05:29,730 Speaker 1: What? 106 00:05:29,890 --> 00:05:30,690 Speaker 2: Yeah. 107 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:31,090 Speaker 1: I don't know. 108 00:05:31,180 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: We're doing the homework. 109 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:32,540 Speaker 1: Okay. 110 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 111 00:05:33,860 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: So we've been doing the sheets that have been coming home. Well, 112 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know that there was a spelling book that 113 00:05:40,690 --> 00:05:43,030 Speaker 1: was coming home every night because I had not seen 114 00:05:43,110 --> 00:05:45,170 Speaker 1: it in his backpack. I hadn't seen it in his folder. 115 00:05:45,330 --> 00:05:47,070 Speaker 3: Yeah. And so. 116 00:05:48,029 --> 00:05:50,570 Speaker 1: I'm just doing the worksheets that are coming home. We're 117 00:05:50,589 --> 00:05:52,790 Speaker 1: doing the worksheets, sending it back, doing the worksheets, sending 118 00:05:52,830 --> 00:05:53,150 Speaker 1: it back. 119 00:05:54,210 --> 00:05:56,900 Speaker 2: Okay. So then it's like homework, question mark. So I 120 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: email the teacher. I'm like, Hey. 121 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,060 Speaker 3: Hey girl, fill the in. 122 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean. Like we're doing the, 123 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: we're doing the homework. Like, am I missing something? 124 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: She's like, yes, there's a spelling book that, you know, 125 00:06:14,620 --> 00:06:19,830 Speaker 1: he has and, you know, it's not coming back with him. 126 00:06:19,850 --> 00:06:23,250 Speaker 1: He has spelling homework every night. And, you know, he's not, 127 00:06:23,290 --> 00:06:26,210 Speaker 1: and she's like, he's such a sweet little boy. And he, 128 00:06:26,910 --> 00:06:30,650 Speaker 1: you know, he's smart and he's understanding all the math concepts, 129 00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:33,990 Speaker 1: but he's just not bringing his homework home. And I'm like, 130 00:06:34,589 --> 00:06:39,010 Speaker 1: or bringing his homework back. And I'm like, okay, well, 131 00:06:40,930 --> 00:06:46,710 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well, we have one solid week of school. 132 00:06:47,540 --> 00:06:54,409 Speaker 1: Under our belts. And homework is a brand new concept, okay? 133 00:06:54,430 --> 00:06:59,250 Speaker 1: Because we did not do homework last year. So I'm like, 134 00:06:59,370 --> 00:07:03,330 Speaker 1: maybe let's settle down, okay? 135 00:07:03,730 --> 00:07:07,810 Speaker 3: Literally, Karen, let's just take a breath. 136 00:07:07,830 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: Let's take a moment. Let's take a beat, okay? 137 00:07:12,420 --> 00:07:14,890 Speaker 3: On the warnings, all right? On the.... 138 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:22,020 Speaker 2: I mean, the yellow flashing. I'm like, can we take 139 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:22,700 Speaker 2: a minute? 140 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,740 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know what spelling book you're 141 00:07:25,780 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: talking about. 142 00:07:26,340 --> 00:07:30,260 Speaker 2: So I'm thinking it's like a workbook. 143 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:31,180 Speaker 1: Okay. 144 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:36,100 Speaker 2: Like I'm thinking, oh, it's like a, I don't know, 145 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: like a curriculum workbook. We've got to work something every day. 146 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: Okay. Right. So I'm like, I'm happy to replace it. 147 00:07:43,890 --> 00:07:46,070 Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about. I have 148 00:07:46,110 --> 00:07:51,380 Speaker 1: not seen it. Like, whatever. I'm like, I'll pay for 149 00:07:51,460 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: another one. 150 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:55,060 Speaker 2: She's like, no, I'm going to send another one home 151 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,900 Speaker 2: in his backpack. 152 00:07:57,580 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: Okay. Girl. 153 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: The next day. So yesterday he comes home. 154 00:08:03,490 --> 00:08:07,980 Speaker 1: It's a 25 cent composition notebook. 155 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:09,619 Speaker 3: Oh, I know what you're talking about. 156 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,790 Speaker 1: Yeah. It has a sticker with his name on it. 157 00:08:13,020 --> 00:08:18,500 Speaker 1: Fulton spelling. I'm like, okay, we're doing all of this 158 00:08:18,820 --> 00:08:21,970 Speaker 1: back and forth over a composition notebook that I could have. 159 00:08:21,950 --> 00:08:23,030 Speaker 2: Run down to Walmart. 160 00:08:23,390 --> 00:08:23,670 Speaker 1: Sure. 161 00:08:23,910 --> 00:08:24,430 Speaker 2: To buy. 162 00:08:24,670 --> 00:08:27,190 Speaker 1: And all he's supposed to do is write his alphabet 163 00:08:27,350 --> 00:08:30,450 Speaker 1: every day in it. Oh my gosh. 164 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: I'm like, And we're sounding the alarms. 165 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: We're sounding the alarms and he's getting bad behavior marks. 166 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: Right. 167 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: Over this. 168 00:08:41,940 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: And that's what, you know, and as a former teacher 169 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: and the lowest grade I taught, like I taught special 170 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:51,740 Speaker 4: ed sixth, seventh and eighth grade. And then I taught 171 00:08:51,820 --> 00:08:54,660 Speaker 4: regular ed fifth grade, which was by far my favorite. 172 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,450 Speaker 4: And then I taught regular ed second grade. So second 173 00:08:58,470 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: grade was the lowest, the youngest kiddos I taught. And 174 00:09:03,470 --> 00:09:06,530 Speaker 4: they were a little sweet peas, but like, I would never, 175 00:09:06,610 --> 00:09:13,070 Speaker 4: I just think that's so like, I really very rarely 176 00:09:13,110 --> 00:09:15,510 Speaker 4: gave my second graders homework and I was never one 177 00:09:15,550 --> 00:09:19,330 Speaker 4: of those teachers. I cannot take people who give busy 178 00:09:19,370 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: work or who nitpick like that. Like, do you know 179 00:09:22,220 --> 00:09:25,740 Speaker 4: what I mean? Like causing this, this, this, this big thing. 180 00:09:26,179 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: And I'm also, you know, as a teacher, you have 181 00:09:28,059 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 4: to be very aware of like, especially someone like so 182 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,700 Speaker 4: joyful like Fulton, or let's take a child completely opposite 183 00:09:35,740 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 4: who's struggling and sad a lot. 184 00:09:38,140 --> 00:09:39,060 Speaker 3: Either way, if. 185 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,230 Speaker 4: You're starting out the school year like that, like that 186 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:47,630 Speaker 4: can like put a damper, you know what I mean? 187 00:09:48,010 --> 00:09:50,710 Speaker 3: On a kid's like, oh man, I'm already messing up 188 00:09:50,809 --> 00:09:55,910 Speaker 3: and I'm getting yellow and my teacher's upset and blah, blah, blah. 189 00:09:55,990 --> 00:09:56,630 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 190 00:09:56,650 --> 00:10:01,580 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like it. I'm like- yeah, I, and 191 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:04,100 Speaker 1: they have to color in their own square. Right. 192 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: Right. 193 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,330 Speaker 1: So he's having to color in this like yellow square. 194 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:14,309 Speaker 1: And I'm like, he doesn't even know like why he 195 00:10:15,570 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: doesn't even know because he's like, I'm bringing home the homework. 196 00:10:20,660 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: We're doing the homework. 197 00:10:23,260 --> 00:10:28,310 Speaker 3: Poor little guy is like, hmm, why am I doing this? 198 00:10:28,610 --> 00:10:34,550 Speaker 1: To me, I'm like, that's a situation where that's like 199 00:10:34,590 --> 00:10:37,589 Speaker 1: an email to the parent or something. Don't make the 200 00:10:37,650 --> 00:10:38,890 Speaker 1: kid feel bad. 201 00:10:38,910 --> 00:10:39,870 Speaker 2: I don't know. 202 00:10:40,650 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: And I'm super sensitive about Fulton because he's just pure 203 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,940 Speaker 1: joy all the time. Totally. 204 00:10:46,179 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: Our babies. There's just something different about the babies. 205 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,780 Speaker 2: This was a worry. 206 00:10:50,820 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: This was a worry for me, though, about Fulton. Like, 207 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,570 Speaker 1: going into, like, going out of kindergarten into first grade. Like, 208 00:11:01,429 --> 00:11:05,689 Speaker 1: I do not want there to be, like, any sort 209 00:11:05,730 --> 00:11:10,390 Speaker 1: of damper on his. 210 00:11:09,510 --> 00:11:10,709 Speaker 2: Spirit, you know? 211 00:11:10,730 --> 00:11:13,410 Speaker 1: Right. And I don't know if that's just being, like, 212 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,260 Speaker 1: I don't want to be one of those like overprotective 213 00:11:16,380 --> 00:11:18,700 Speaker 1: moms or whatever. Like I want him to grow up. 214 00:11:18,820 --> 00:11:22,780 Speaker 1: I want him to, you know, not be like a baby. 215 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:24,630 Speaker 1: Like I want him to grow up, but also like, 216 00:11:25,270 --> 00:11:28,050 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just want to continue to like 217 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:32,330 Speaker 1: harness that just beautiful joy. 218 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:33,209 Speaker 2: That he has, you know? 219 00:11:33,270 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: You know, literally, which it's, it's kind of fitting, obviously 220 00:11:38,059 --> 00:11:41,100 Speaker 4: very different ages, but I just saw Tim Tebow and 221 00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:44,569 Speaker 4: his wife with their little girl, who's still a baby. 222 00:11:44,590 --> 00:11:47,729 Speaker 4: And they did this interview and they said one of 223 00:11:47,770 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 4: their biggest prayers for her every day when they pray 224 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,300 Speaker 4: over her, aside from of course, protection and safety is 225 00:11:54,400 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: they both said they pray that her joy is always 226 00:12:00,860 --> 00:12:05,420 Speaker 4: kept as she grows, you know, throughout childhood. And like, 227 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: you know, Abby, you and I have, you know, our 228 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:16,670 Speaker 4: oldest kiddos, we both have daughters that are, 18 and 19. 229 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:20,570 Speaker 3: And we have children all the way through age seven. 230 00:12:20,590 --> 00:12:25,930 Speaker 3: And somewhere in there, and oh my gosh, I really 231 00:12:25,950 --> 00:12:28,030 Speaker 3: never thought of it like this. I'm getting emotional. 232 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: Somewhere in there was the last time we ever picked 233 00:12:33,660 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 4: them up. It was the last time they ever believed 234 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,500 Speaker 4: in Santa. It was the last time that they ever 235 00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: got giddy over X, Y, and Z. There was like 236 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,870 Speaker 4: a certain, you know, it was like, do you know 237 00:12:49,890 --> 00:12:50,449 Speaker 4: what I mean? 238 00:12:50,510 --> 00:12:53,370 Speaker 3: And we, even in the Bible, we see about childlike faith. 239 00:12:53,510 --> 00:12:54,270 Speaker 2: There's the wonder. 240 00:12:54,850 --> 00:12:55,670 Speaker 3: It's the wonder. 241 00:12:55,950 --> 00:12:58,630 Speaker 4: And like this, it like, you see like young children, 242 00:12:58,670 --> 00:13:03,270 Speaker 4: the innocence, it's like this joy that nobody can steal. 243 00:13:03,950 --> 00:13:04,290 Speaker 3: Right. 244 00:13:04,429 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: It's like, it's like heavenly given to them. And yet, 245 00:13:12,290 --> 00:13:15,050 Speaker 4: One day, you know, it's like we can't keep them 246 00:13:15,090 --> 00:13:19,650 Speaker 4: in a bubble. But at some point, it's maybe not 247 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: all at once. And for some children, it is stolen 248 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 4: all at once. And others, I think it's like, you know, 249 00:13:25,380 --> 00:13:29,340 Speaker 4: ounces are taken from this situation. And this person has, 250 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,900 Speaker 4: you know, taken 4%. 251 00:13:31,140 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: Of their joy. 252 00:13:31,780 --> 00:13:34,970 Speaker 4: Or this situation that was traumatic. You know, they lost 253 00:13:35,510 --> 00:13:37,070 Speaker 4: a grandparent or whatever. 254 00:13:37,090 --> 00:13:37,620 Speaker 1: You know, and.... 255 00:13:40,990 --> 00:13:44,929 Speaker 4: And I think that's one of the biggest distinguishing factors 256 00:13:45,330 --> 00:13:51,589 Speaker 4: between us as adults and our tiny children is that 257 00:13:51,770 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 4: sweet wonder, that childlike faith, that joy, you know? It's like, 258 00:13:58,420 --> 00:14:00,740 Speaker 4: you know, I always say too, because as a special ed, 259 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: as a former special ed teacher, they were my favorite students. 260 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: You know, when you look at a person, no matter 261 00:14:07,620 --> 00:14:14,100 Speaker 4: what age, who has Down syndrome- they have this joy 262 00:14:14,420 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: that no one can steal. And it's almost like, it's like, wow, 263 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,650 Speaker 4: like so many different times I've thought from my personal experience, 264 00:14:22,710 --> 00:14:25,830 Speaker 4: teaching them from talking with them. One of my favorite 265 00:14:25,870 --> 00:14:31,230 Speaker 4: people who works at a local grocery store, he has 266 00:14:31,270 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: down syndrome, like some of the happiest. 267 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,100 Speaker 3: Human beings I've ever met in my life. And they 268 00:14:38,140 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: know no different. 269 00:14:39,580 --> 00:14:39,740 Speaker 1: Right. 270 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:44,540 Speaker 4: And it's like all the things that we complain about 271 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:51,130 Speaker 4: and first world problems and issues and yet they just– man, 272 00:14:51,790 --> 00:14:55,210 Speaker 4: this joy that cannot be stolen. 273 00:14:55,230 --> 00:14:56,250 Speaker 2: Yeah. 274 00:14:56,330 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: And it's so beautiful. And it is. 275 00:14:59,740 --> 00:15:03,620 Speaker 4: It's like– You have people whose babies are going off 276 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,750 Speaker 4: to preschool for the first time or mothers who are 277 00:15:05,780 --> 00:15:09,130 Speaker 4: taking their babies to daycare to go back to work. 278 00:15:09,170 --> 00:15:11,470 Speaker 4: And then our babies are going into first grade. Your 279 00:15:11,510 --> 00:15:16,410 Speaker 4: baby who's listening might be going off to college, whatever 280 00:15:16,430 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: it might be. 281 00:15:16,940 --> 00:15:23,050 Speaker 3: But it's... I think we have. 282 00:15:22,970 --> 00:15:25,190 Speaker 2: To do what we can to like protect that. 283 00:15:25,270 --> 00:15:28,430 Speaker 3: To preserve it, right? Yeah. To preserve and protect it 284 00:15:28,610 --> 00:15:29,330 Speaker 3: is best. 285 00:15:29,970 --> 00:15:32,910 Speaker 4: And when the lights go out, when some of it 286 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,830 Speaker 4: gets stolen, I. 287 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,620 Speaker 3: Feel like it's our job. Like how do we replenish it? Right? 288 00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: Like how do we put more of it back into that? 289 00:15:41,540 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 4: No matter what age, you know? 290 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 291 00:15:45,620 --> 00:15:49,940 Speaker 1: And I just, I'm like, that was just such a stupid, like, 292 00:15:50,780 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: little thing. 293 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: And I was just like, dude, why are you pressing 294 00:15:56,330 --> 00:15:57,180 Speaker 2: so hard on this? 295 00:15:57,950 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Right. 296 00:15:58,350 --> 00:15:58,710 Speaker 4: Right. 297 00:15:59,350 --> 00:16:03,930 Speaker 3: The composition book, not like some $ 60. Right. 298 00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:06,530 Speaker 1: I was like, why are we pushing so hard on this? 299 00:16:06,750 --> 00:16:12,510 Speaker 1: And you have him for so long every day, you know, 300 00:16:12,810 --> 00:16:18,190 Speaker 1: like I'm just, this is something I'm not going to 301 00:16:18,210 --> 00:16:20,890 Speaker 1: stress about. And that's one thing I do want to 302 00:16:20,930 --> 00:16:24,970 Speaker 1: say to parents who may be listening. You know, I 303 00:16:26,050 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of kids in school. I'm like raising 304 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:34,940 Speaker 1: a lot of kids. I'm not a homeschool parent, but 305 00:16:34,980 --> 00:16:37,740 Speaker 1: I do want to say this to parents who have 306 00:16:37,820 --> 00:16:41,340 Speaker 1: kids in school. And there will be people that are like, oh, well, 307 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,140 Speaker 1: you just, you know, homeschool your kid if you want. 308 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,450 Speaker 1: And that's just not an option for us right now. 309 00:16:46,590 --> 00:16:49,170 Speaker 1: Like we, The school they go to is a great 310 00:16:49,210 --> 00:16:53,310 Speaker 1: school and we love it. And this is just kind 311 00:16:53,330 --> 00:16:56,170 Speaker 1: of part of the growing pains of having your kids 312 00:16:56,220 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: in school and everything and we'll figure it out. But 313 00:16:58,980 --> 00:17:05,980 Speaker 1: that is one thing I want to tell parents because 314 00:17:06,020 --> 00:17:10,810 Speaker 1: this is something that I have told my kids' teachers repeatedly. 315 00:17:11,730 --> 00:17:15,810 Speaker 1: I'm not spending a lot of time at home doing homework. 316 00:17:17,430 --> 00:17:20,430 Speaker 1: And I've been very upfront with all of my kids' 317 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:25,460 Speaker 1: teachers about that from like day one. I'm like, you 318 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: have the bulk of my children's time every single day. 319 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:33,620 Speaker 1: So when they come home to me, they're coming home 320 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:38,670 Speaker 1: to me. They're not coming home to do schoolwork. Like 321 00:17:38,910 --> 00:17:43,290 Speaker 1: if you can't get it done at school, then it's 322 00:17:43,330 --> 00:17:43,930 Speaker 1: not getting done. 323 00:17:44,340 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: Finish it tomorrow. 324 00:17:45,780 --> 00:17:47,899 Speaker 1: Then we'll finish it tomorrow. Like you're going to have 325 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,350 Speaker 1: to finish it tomorrow. Like the little, like writing the 326 00:17:51,450 --> 00:17:52,850 Speaker 1: alphabet and stuff with Fulton. 327 00:17:52,869 --> 00:17:53,750 Speaker 2: I don't mind doing that. 328 00:17:53,890 --> 00:17:56,510 Speaker 1: Like, cause I, I like working with him. I like, 329 00:17:56,830 --> 00:17:59,889 Speaker 1: you know, seeing his brain work. I like, you know, 330 00:17:59,990 --> 00:18:02,429 Speaker 1: complimenting him on his penmanship. I like doing all that 331 00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: kind of stuff with him. Like these little busy work 332 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: worksheets and stuff like that. Like, nah, I'm not, I'm not, 333 00:18:11,180 --> 00:18:16,909 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. Right. Um, Because number one, it's 334 00:18:17,030 --> 00:18:22,750 Speaker 1: totally unnecessary. And you can do that in school. And 335 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:26,030 Speaker 1: I've made that clear with all of my kids' teachers. 336 00:18:26,590 --> 00:18:30,380 Speaker 1: And I got to tell you, once you set that 337 00:18:30,430 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: boundary with the teachers, it is not a problem. 338 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:38,980 Speaker 3: If you do it, if you're just very forthright and 339 00:18:39,020 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 3: you can do it in a respectful way. 340 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: Totally. Totally. 341 00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:43,899 Speaker 3: Yeah. You don't have to be whatever, you know, go 342 00:18:43,980 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: on a power trip about it. Yeah. They, yeah, for sure. 343 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: But you do have that ability, like as a parent 344 00:18:51,619 --> 00:18:56,810 Speaker 1: with your children in school. And I've done it, you know, 345 00:18:57,170 --> 00:18:59,830 Speaker 1: with all of my kids' teachers. I've just been very 346 00:19:00,010 --> 00:19:03,209 Speaker 1: kind about it. But I'm like, hey, my time is 347 00:19:03,250 --> 00:19:06,149 Speaker 1: my time. Your time is your time. I'm not going 348 00:19:06,170 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: to interfere in your time. I don't want you to 349 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,220 Speaker 1: interfere in my time. 350 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,740 Speaker 3: I'm going to throw this in there too. That's kind 351 00:19:14,790 --> 00:19:16,870 Speaker 3: of out of left field, but. 352 00:19:18,690 --> 00:19:21,190 Speaker 4: I feel like this will resonate with someone and help 353 00:19:21,250 --> 00:19:25,550 Speaker 4: someone because Abby and I both do this and our 354 00:19:25,650 --> 00:19:30,490 Speaker 4: worlds change completely. Both of us, like neither of us 355 00:19:30,550 --> 00:19:34,210 Speaker 4: having conversations about this because Abby and I didn't even 356 00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:37,690 Speaker 4: know the other existed when we had our last child, 357 00:19:37,890 --> 00:19:40,020 Speaker 4: when we had our boys, when we had Bolton and KJ, um, 358 00:19:42,670 --> 00:19:46,540 Speaker 4: But let me tell you how many of my friends, 359 00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:51,620 Speaker 4: acquaintances of people I hear in school are parents whose 360 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:57,580 Speaker 4: kids are in school who are going through vaccinations just 361 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 4: because they are quote unquote require required for that grade level. 362 00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: Right. 363 00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:08,550 Speaker 3: Or like my kids are all in sports required for 364 00:20:08,590 --> 00:20:09,189 Speaker 3: that sport. 365 00:20:09,210 --> 00:20:09,310 Speaker 1: Right. 366 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 4: And let me tell you, now I know every state 367 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: has different laws, but let me tell you how incredibly 368 00:20:19,030 --> 00:20:25,189 Speaker 4: painless and easy it's been for me to literally each time, 369 00:20:27,670 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 4: like nothing has been injected into my children's bodies since 2019. 370 00:20:31,420 --> 00:20:31,860 Speaker 1: Nothing. Nothing. 371 00:20:33,770 --> 00:20:37,750 Speaker 4: Not a normal routine vaccine, not a flu shot, certainly 372 00:20:37,810 --> 00:20:41,090 Speaker 4: not whatever was given during the pandemic. 373 00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:43,130 Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing. 374 00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:49,910 Speaker 4: And God willing, nothing ever will be. Even like Kendall 375 00:20:50,010 --> 00:20:53,330 Speaker 4: just went off to college, same thing. They're like, oh, 376 00:20:54,490 --> 00:20:58,389 Speaker 4: we don't have her vaccines. They were great about it. 377 00:20:58,390 --> 00:21:02,350 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I filled out the religious exemption. 378 00:21:04,330 --> 00:21:09,330 Speaker 4: just like I do for elementary, middle, high school. So 379 00:21:09,369 --> 00:21:13,750 Speaker 4: I did it for college even. I've never had one issue. 380 00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:14,969 Speaker 3: And a lot of. 381 00:21:14,970 --> 00:21:21,170 Speaker 4: The people that are friends or acquaintances, Abby, are also Christians. 382 00:21:21,850 --> 00:21:27,380 Speaker 4: And it's just very easy to write, oh, this goes 383 00:21:27,420 --> 00:21:34,190 Speaker 4: against our ethics and moral beliefs to inject aborted fetal 384 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:38,750 Speaker 4: cells into my children's body, inject formaldehyde, dozens of toxins 385 00:21:38,810 --> 00:21:42,389 Speaker 4: that are, you know, extremely dangerous. 386 00:21:43,450 --> 00:21:47,510 Speaker 3: And that just goes against our family's beliefs. Never once. 387 00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:53,730 Speaker 4: And so, Abby, I think we forget as parents the 388 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: power we hold with our children. We shouldn't be handing 389 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,540 Speaker 4: it over to the government. We shouldn't be handing it 390 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,980 Speaker 4: over to the school. We it is in our hands. 391 00:22:06,460 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: Well, let me say like, even in, even in Catholic school. 392 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,780 Speaker 1: So like at our school and a lot of other 393 00:22:13,820 --> 00:22:16,090 Speaker 1: Catholic schools, not just in the state of Texas, but 394 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,149 Speaker 1: in the state of Texas and a lot of other States, 395 00:22:19,790 --> 00:22:23,830 Speaker 1: Catholic schools are not given the opportunity to have a 396 00:22:23,890 --> 00:22:25,629 Speaker 1: religious exemption from vaccines. 397 00:22:27,670 --> 00:22:31,020 Speaker 3: And you think they would be the front runners. Do 398 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:31,540 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 399 00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:32,889 Speaker 2: That's so weird. 400 00:22:33,050 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: You put your kid in a Catholic school in the 401 00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:39,860 Speaker 1: state of Texas, you have to either have a medical 402 00:22:39,940 --> 00:22:42,419 Speaker 1: exemption or you have to give them a vaccine. You 403 00:22:42,460 --> 00:22:45,540 Speaker 1: cannot have a religious moral exemption. 404 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,770 Speaker 3: That is the most backwards thing I've ever heard. 405 00:22:48,790 --> 00:22:50,950 Speaker 2: Well, my kids are not vaccinated. 406 00:22:51,650 --> 00:22:56,190 Speaker 1: And so, you know, a lot of my friends are like, well, 407 00:22:56,330 --> 00:22:59,470 Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I don't have a medical reason. 408 00:22:59,490 --> 00:23:02,350 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, Oh, I'm like, yeah, you do. 409 00:23:04,369 --> 00:23:05,450 Speaker 3: Let me inform you. 410 00:23:05,470 --> 00:23:09,470 Speaker 1: Yeah, you do. I'm like, you don't want dangerous toxins 411 00:23:09,530 --> 00:23:12,050 Speaker 1: put in your kid. That's a medical reason. 412 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:12,850 Speaker 2: Right. 413 00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:15,890 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you just have to find the right 414 00:23:15,930 --> 00:23:19,570 Speaker 1: doctor who will sign off on a medical exemption. And 415 00:23:19,609 --> 00:23:22,340 Speaker 1: it's actually not difficult at all. There's actually quite a 416 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,540 Speaker 1: few doctors that will do that for you. You just 417 00:23:25,580 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: have to know the right ones. You have to know 418 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: the right people. 419 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 3: For sure. 420 00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:33,900 Speaker 1: For sure. When you go to a school, if you're 421 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,940 Speaker 1: wanting to go to a school, you just have to 422 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,330 Speaker 1: ask questions. You just have to ask the right questions. 423 00:23:38,869 --> 00:23:44,790 Speaker 1: You have to find the right people. You can email me. 424 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:45,830 Speaker 1: I'll help you. 425 00:23:45,850 --> 00:23:49,350 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had people email me and I've sent them 426 00:23:49,770 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 3: what I've submitted. 427 00:23:51,630 --> 00:23:51,930 Speaker 1: Yeah. 428 00:23:52,130 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you just have to find the right people. 429 00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:57,139 Speaker 1: I have helped so many people in the state of 430 00:23:57,180 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: Texas get medical exemptions for their kids. 431 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:04,740 Speaker 4: And let me tell you, Abby, when you look at 432 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,460 Speaker 4: a doctor or you look at the administrator, let's say 433 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 4: if someone is giving you a bit of trouble and 434 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,870 Speaker 4: you just politely say, I am happy to vaccinate my children. 435 00:24:15,290 --> 00:24:21,470 Speaker 4: As soon as the medical professional can sign off stating 436 00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:26,170 Speaker 4: there will absolutely be no adverse reactions, side effects, no 437 00:24:26,270 --> 00:24:28,710 Speaker 4: chance of death. As soon as I get that, sure, 438 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,140 Speaker 4: I'll line them all up. just find me a doctor 439 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 4: who will say that all of these adverse reactions cannot happen. 440 00:24:35,220 --> 00:24:38,300 Speaker 4: And I'll gladly, because that can net, that's an impossibility. 441 00:24:38,780 --> 00:24:41,850 Speaker 1: Well, or if you say to a doctor, I will 442 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,050 Speaker 1: vaccinate my children. If you will sign something that says 443 00:24:45,109 --> 00:24:48,390 Speaker 1: that if there is an adverse reaction, you and your 444 00:24:48,430 --> 00:24:51,070 Speaker 1: medical practice will be willing to be held liable. 445 00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:52,650 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 446 00:24:52,990 --> 00:24:55,070 Speaker 1: Oh, never, never. 447 00:24:55,090 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 3: And that should tell you all. you need to know. 448 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: Cause there is no, there is no liability. I mean, 449 00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: that was signed away in the eighties that there is 450 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: no medical liability for adverse reactions. So I, and that's 451 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:20,970 Speaker 1: the only medication on the planet medication using quotations on 452 00:25:21,010 --> 00:25:25,630 Speaker 1: the planet that has no medical liability. It has no 453 00:25:25,730 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: standard of liability. Um, If you take a drug and 454 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: you have an adverse reaction, you can sue the company 455 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,899 Speaker 1: and say, I had an adverse reaction and you're going 456 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: to be held liable. Vaccines are the only thing that 457 00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:49,570 Speaker 1: does not have that same culpability. And I mean, to me, 458 00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:52,210 Speaker 1: that's like an alert, right? That's like a red flag. 459 00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:52,330 Speaker 3: Right. 460 00:25:53,260 --> 00:25:55,180 Speaker 4: And I've seen, you know, and the last thing I'll 461 00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 4: say too, it's absolutely heartbreaking. Most of the videos I 462 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: can't finish, but there's a, I hate even calling it 463 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: like a trend, but there's so many parents who have 464 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:11,820 Speaker 4: posted their babies or toddlers, you know, thriving. This is them, 465 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,330 Speaker 4: you know, before their whatever month vaccine, right? They've laughing, smiling, happy. 466 00:26:17,980 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: And then this is them, you know, they showed them 12. 467 00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:20,669 Speaker 2: Hours, 24 hours, 36 hours. 468 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,060 Speaker 4: After their vaccinations and then a follow-up. 469 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,300 Speaker 3: This is still them months later. And it's just, honestly, 470 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: it's disturbing. It's heartbreaking. 471 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: And then you just think of this little innocent sweetheart 472 00:26:38,740 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 4: that has no choice in the matter, right? 473 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: That is now suffering. 474 00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:48,850 Speaker 4: And it just, oh, it just, that just always bothers me. 475 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:52,470 Speaker 4: So anyways, bottom line, parents. 476 00:26:54,550 --> 00:26:56,649 Speaker 4: And this I think will be a good segue into 477 00:26:56,930 --> 00:26:59,850 Speaker 4: the probably most, one of the most popular trending topics, 478 00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:02,290 Speaker 4: everybody's speaking about, but it was going to say parents 479 00:27:03,450 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 4: know best for their children or they're supposed to know best. 480 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,940 Speaker 1: Um, unless you strangle them. 481 00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:22,409 Speaker 4: Unless you, you know, so, I mean, it's, I actually, 482 00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:25,420 Speaker 4: last night, uh, because not only is Abby my best 483 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,619 Speaker 4: friend and not only do we have a podcast together, 484 00:27:27,660 --> 00:27:32,500 Speaker 4: but I'm also blessed to work under Abby and is, 485 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,030 Speaker 4: is part of her, her team. And so we get 486 00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:38,570 Speaker 4: this email last night on a thread of a bunch 487 00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:41,389 Speaker 4: of us that work for Abby. And, and so I 488 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:44,109 Speaker 4: got to watch when I, Abby's been doing a lot 489 00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:52,580 Speaker 4: of public interviews about Lindsay Clancy. And, uh, uh, I, 490 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 4: edited your one last night, Abby, where you were on 491 00:27:55,660 --> 00:28:00,290 Speaker 4: Real America's Voice and you were with Grant Stinchfield. You 492 00:28:00,310 --> 00:28:02,250 Speaker 4: had a really good interview with him. 493 00:28:02,290 --> 00:28:03,230 Speaker 1: And as I. 494 00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:08,310 Speaker 3: Edited it, I got to watch it. And it is, 495 00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:09,710 Speaker 3: I don't know, of course. 496 00:28:09,730 --> 00:28:14,310 Speaker 4: We'll let you talk about it here too. 497 00:28:16,130 --> 00:28:17,050 Speaker 1: I don't know, Abby. 498 00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:20,670 Speaker 4: It's just one of those things that When I say 499 00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:23,869 Speaker 4: I've been following the case closely, I don't feel like 500 00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:26,470 Speaker 4: I can say that because I haven't been watching the 501 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: full live trial every day. So I can't say I'm 502 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,899 Speaker 4: following it closely. I'm keeping tabs on it daily. I 503 00:28:32,619 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 4: would say that I'm keeping tabs because. 504 00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:41,540 Speaker 3: Some of it's honestly, it's just too painful for me. 505 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you know what I mean? I can't. 506 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:56,220 Speaker 4: Stay there for long. And It's only because I can't, 507 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,300 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about the three children, right? 508 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: Well, that's what we should be thinking about. That's what 509 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,660 Speaker 3: we should. 510 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,219 Speaker 4: You know, other people, and I'm not saying people who 511 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,219 Speaker 4: are engrossed in it and can sit through it all. 512 00:29:11,260 --> 00:29:14,100 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that they don't have empathy for the 513 00:29:14,140 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 4: three children, but many people who, especially women who have 514 00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:22,890 Speaker 4: this Almost like excitement to watch it every day. 515 00:29:23,030 --> 00:29:29,420 Speaker 3: And it's like, again, it's become all about almost like 516 00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:37,610 Speaker 3: this vengeance for Lindsay, right? And it's incredibly sick. 517 00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:39,190 Speaker 2: Sick. 518 00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: And it's confusing. 519 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: And I think, Abby, something this huge is just another 520 00:29:46,380 --> 00:29:50,940 Speaker 4: glaring reminder, smack in our faces, Abby. We see this 521 00:29:51,010 --> 00:29:54,350 Speaker 4: in every facet of our world today. You and I 522 00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:57,950 Speaker 4: have talked about this for years publicly, right? Like, it's 523 00:29:58,030 --> 00:30:01,380 Speaker 4: like people are seeing two different realities on everything. And 524 00:30:01,410 --> 00:30:04,380 Speaker 4: so when I, when we say this is like a 525 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: spiritual battle of good versus evil and what we're, do you. 526 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: Know what I mean? 527 00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 4: Like it's, it's, it's everything is two different realities where 528 00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:17,500 Speaker 4: one side cannot understand us and we can't understand another 529 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:25,900 Speaker 4: when people are championing women over abortion and We're. 530 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:30,190 Speaker 3: Like, oh, Lindsay, you just, oh my gosh. 531 00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:36,470 Speaker 4: Oh, she strangled her three beautiful innocent children, but we're just, 532 00:30:38,690 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: there's such a disconnect today and it's almost, it's startling. 533 00:30:43,860 --> 00:30:51,380 Speaker 4: It's like we're coexisting with people who are so lost 534 00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:56,570 Speaker 4: and the deception is so great that That it's scary. 535 00:30:58,410 --> 00:30:59,469 Speaker 3: It's scary. 536 00:30:59,490 --> 00:31:02,550 Speaker 1: I was thinking last night, when I was working at 537 00:31:02,590 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: Planned Parenthood and this would have happened, who would I 538 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: have sided with? Would I have been on Team Lindsay? Yeah. 539 00:31:20,370 --> 00:31:25,900 Speaker 1: And I thought, yeah. When I worked at Planned Parenthood, 540 00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:30,860 Speaker 1: I would have been on Team Lindsay. I would have been, 541 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, heart-handing it and doing the heart hands. I 542 00:31:36,820 --> 00:31:40,810 Speaker 1: would have been wearing the pink. I would have been like, oh, 543 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,450 Speaker 1: but poor Lindsay. Like, she was really suffering. I would 544 00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:47,550 Speaker 1: have made her the victim. 545 00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:50,470 Speaker 3: Like, 100%. 546 00:31:51,050 --> 00:31:53,550 Speaker 2: Like, just thinking back to my. 547 00:31:57,050 --> 00:32:00,690 Speaker 2: My mentality right back then. 548 00:32:01,510 --> 00:32:08,930 Speaker 1: Right. Because women were victims. 549 00:32:09,610 --> 00:32:10,890 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. 550 00:32:12,930 --> 00:32:18,210 Speaker 1: Women were always victims. And so, you know, you, you 551 00:32:18,250 --> 00:32:27,830 Speaker 1: have to, you know, make women victims. victims all the 552 00:32:27,870 --> 00:32:33,730 Speaker 1: time in every situation, even when they're like stone cold murders. Right. 553 00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:40,650 Speaker 1: You have to think, well, they're the victim. And such 554 00:32:40,770 --> 00:32:47,700 Speaker 1: a mental gymnastics that, that I, that I lived in, 555 00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:54,010 Speaker 1: like I was so anti-death penalty and, while I was 556 00:32:54,310 --> 00:33:00,110 Speaker 1: working at a place that killed babies. Right. Yeah. Because 557 00:33:00,330 --> 00:33:07,670 Speaker 1: even people who were murderers admitted to murder, I was like, no, no, no. 558 00:33:09,890 --> 00:33:15,130 Speaker 1: There's I'm like, there's gotta be something in them that 559 00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:16,650 Speaker 1: we need to protect. 560 00:33:16,930 --> 00:33:17,210 Speaker 3: Right. 561 00:33:17,290 --> 00:33:20,210 Speaker 1: Like we need to protect their humanity. We need to 562 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,700 Speaker 1: protect their dignity. Yeah. Yeah. all the while I'm piecing 563 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,420 Speaker 1: baby parts back together. 564 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 565 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: Right. There's like a disconnect. So I, I for sure, 566 00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:37,860 Speaker 1: just logically thinking about it, I would have for sure 567 00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:44,380 Speaker 1: been on team Lindsay when I worked at Planned Parenthood. 568 00:33:45,510 --> 00:33:45,620 Speaker 3: Yeah. 569 00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:51,020 Speaker 1: And so as I, as I look at, the people, 570 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: as I'm talking about this, and I'm not talking about 571 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,830 Speaker 1: this from a place of emotion. 572 00:34:00,850 --> 00:34:02,030 Speaker 2: Like most women are. 573 00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:07,510 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this from just, because I have been 574 00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:13,690 Speaker 1: closely following this trial because I have been thinking about 575 00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: the impact of this trial, the precedent this sets. for 576 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,940 Speaker 1: not just women who drown their kids or strangle their 577 00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:29,660 Speaker 1: kids or kill their kids postpartum, but what this can be, 578 00:34:29,739 --> 00:34:32,270 Speaker 1: what kind of precedent this can set in mental health 579 00:34:34,870 --> 00:34:39,069 Speaker 1: for many different things, shooters, school shootings, all different kinds 580 00:34:39,130 --> 00:34:40,490 Speaker 1: of things. Right. 581 00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:47,219 Speaker 2: And so I've been looking just sheerly at the evidence, okay? 582 00:34:47,590 --> 00:34:53,620 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. And people look at the evidence. These women are 583 00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:56,500 Speaker 1: looking at the evidence. It's primarily women. These women are 584 00:34:56,540 --> 00:35:01,589 Speaker 1: looking at the evidence and saying, even though I see 585 00:35:01,650 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: the evidence, she still isn't responsible for her actions. And 586 00:35:10,780 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: that's the same thing that we see among these same 587 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,550 Speaker 1: women who say they are staunchly pro-life, but they don't 588 00:35:20,650 --> 00:35:23,210 Speaker 1: want to hold women accountable for the murder of their 589 00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: children in the womb. Right. So I show them evidence 590 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: of women, you know, dancing into abortion clinics, flipping me off, 591 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,380 Speaker 1: telling them, I can't wait to murder my baby, blah, blah, blah. 592 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,379 Speaker 1: And they look at those women and It's the same 593 00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: with other abortion clinic workers, right? I showed them video 594 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: of other abortion, former abortion clinic workers who say, oh yeah, 595 00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:57,130 Speaker 1: women used to just walk in laughing, joking. They had 596 00:35:57,130 --> 00:35:59,790 Speaker 1: 12 abortions. They were using it as birth control, whatever. 597 00:35:59,810 --> 00:36:05,169 Speaker 1: And these same women look at the evidence and they 598 00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: deny the evidence and they say, no, these women are 599 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:18,710 Speaker 1: still victims. And I think, and a lot of the 600 00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:24,950 Speaker 1: women are even saying, no, it was the husband. The 601 00:36:25,070 --> 00:36:30,860 Speaker 1: husband did it. When the husband has a clear alibi, 602 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: they have him on video camera multiple places during that. 603 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:42,550 Speaker 1: Like his movement is tracked the entire time. Like they 604 00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: can see where he is the entire time. Lindsay has 605 00:36:46,940 --> 00:36:52,990 Speaker 1: admitted to doing it. She says she's guilty. The defense 606 00:36:53,070 --> 00:36:57,890 Speaker 1: is not even denying that she did it. Like, everybody 607 00:36:57,950 --> 00:36:59,340 Speaker 1: agrees she did it. 608 00:36:59,610 --> 00:36:59,810 Speaker 3: Right. 609 00:37:00,210 --> 00:37:04,410 Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what 610 00:37:04,450 --> 00:37:07,450 Speaker 4: the trial is for. It's not to prove any type 611 00:37:07,489 --> 00:37:11,450 Speaker 4: of innocence. This isn't for the jury to decide did 612 00:37:11,489 --> 00:37:13,100 Speaker 4: she do it or not. And I think a lot 613 00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 4: of people are misunderstanding. 614 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:17,350 Speaker 3: That's not even... why they're there. 615 00:37:18,070 --> 00:37:22,250 Speaker 1: No, but this is what like, this is just, again, 616 00:37:22,270 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: the lack of accountability. Right. That people are willing to 617 00:37:31,739 --> 00:37:37,620 Speaker 1: give or take in this country. It's like, and I 618 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: don't know if it's like, we can't, it's like hard 619 00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:42,790 Speaker 1: for us to wrap our heads around the fact that 620 00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:44,890 Speaker 1: a mother would. 621 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: Turn her children. 622 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,260 Speaker 1: Away from her, lie them on their stomachs, take an 623 00:37:52,410 --> 00:37:57,710 Speaker 1: exercise band, choke them, strangle them until their eyes almost 624 00:37:57,810 --> 00:38:03,529 Speaker 1: pop out of their heads. One of the children even 625 00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:08,509 Speaker 1: ran away from her. She drug them back. You know, 626 00:38:09,110 --> 00:38:15,529 Speaker 1: have them stand there and watch as she torturously strangles 627 00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: each child I don't know if it's that our brain 628 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,980 Speaker 1: can't comprehend that. And so we say that must not 629 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:30,170 Speaker 1: be true. It has to be someone else. It can't 630 00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:34,270 Speaker 1: be true. No mother could possibly do that. So she 631 00:38:34,410 --> 00:38:40,190 Speaker 1: must have been in a place of just utter psychosis. 632 00:38:42,010 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: But let me tell you something. Mothers can do that 633 00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:56,460 Speaker 1: to their children. Mothers go into abortion clinics and their 634 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:02,940 Speaker 1: babies are born alive. And the doctors say, what do 635 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:05,540 Speaker 1: you want me to do with this baby that was 636 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:14,340 Speaker 1: born alive? And the mothers say, finish it. And the 637 00:39:14,380 --> 00:39:17,899 Speaker 1: doctor drowns the baby Or it breaks the baby's neck. 638 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:23,060 Speaker 1: The doctor breaks the baby's neck. Like mothers do those 639 00:39:23,180 --> 00:39:28,669 Speaker 1: kinds of things. Like that really does exist. That kind 640 00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: of evil really exists. does exist. So it should not 641 00:39:33,380 --> 00:39:41,060 Speaker 1: be shocking that in our culture, as we have allowed 642 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: immunity for women to murder their babies for the past 643 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:53,590 Speaker 1: 50 years, that we have allowed just this unfettered, unchecked 644 00:39:53,969 --> 00:39:58,989 Speaker 1: evil for the past 50 years. It should not be 645 00:39:59,090 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: surprising that now we see it close up and it's 646 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: happening right in front of us. That should not be 647 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: surprising because we've. 648 00:40:10,020 --> 00:40:11,620 Speaker 2: Been allowing it to run rampant. 649 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 3: Right. 650 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: And we should be able to call it exactly what 651 00:40:16,660 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, just on August 6th, A woman 652 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: walked into her boyfriend's apartment with a knife and a 653 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: gun on her hip and walked up to her three 654 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:37,339 Speaker 1: children and slit their throats. And she said to the 655 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:42,549 Speaker 1: father of her children, say goodbye to your kids. And 656 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:48,529 Speaker 1: she slit their throats. So are we also going to 657 00:40:48,670 --> 00:40:56,230 Speaker 1: create a million dollar GoFundMe for this woman and say like, well, 658 00:40:56,270 --> 00:40:59,660 Speaker 1: clearly that was psychosis or are we just going to say, no, 659 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,959 Speaker 1: because that was a little too bloody. Right. 660 00:41:03,340 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 3: Right. 661 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,100 Speaker 1: Right. Like, was that just too violent? 662 00:41:08,890 --> 00:41:09,489 Speaker 3: Yeah. 663 00:41:09,610 --> 00:41:18,150 Speaker 4: And it, these things have become subjective and, um, I'm 664 00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:20,670 Speaker 4: sure the next thing I'm going to say is going 665 00:41:20,690 --> 00:41:24,010 Speaker 4: to be taken wrong and people will eye roll. 666 00:41:25,610 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 2: But I. 667 00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 4: Understand postpartum depression is real. Postpartum psychosis is real. I've 668 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 4: never been diagnosed with postpartum psychosis. I have been diagnosed 669 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,850 Speaker 4: with postpartum depression. And I have experienced a small handful 670 00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:43,189 Speaker 4: of times to where. 671 00:41:44,930 --> 00:41:46,290 Speaker 3: One of which I. 672 00:41:46,330 --> 00:41:52,489 Speaker 4: Had called you where it's, it's very scary because you 673 00:41:52,530 --> 00:41:57,870 Speaker 4: can be in a low spot and within literally seconds, 674 00:41:59,030 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 4: you bottom out to a place that's scary. 675 00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: Right. 676 00:42:02,590 --> 00:42:08,340 Speaker 4: And so I have experienced that and I know it's 677 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 4: a horrible spot to be. And it's, it's, it's, it's 678 00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:22,690 Speaker 4: extremely scary. All that to say, this type of horrifying, 679 00:42:22,770 --> 00:42:28,989 Speaker 4: unfathomable behavior, literally, just as we, and I'm not trying 680 00:42:29,010 --> 00:42:33,450 Speaker 4: to jump, but just as we've seen in the Epstein files, 681 00:42:35,110 --> 00:42:41,489 Speaker 4: some of the emails that we read about, Abby, I 682 00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:47,090 Speaker 4: feel like no one can do these type of things. 683 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:56,379 Speaker 4: I'm not saying a full on possession, but unequivocally it's demonic. 684 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,500 Speaker 3: We can, we can say, you know what I mean? Mental, 685 00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 3: mental illness is very real. Again, I've experienced it. 686 00:43:05,590 --> 00:43:05,930 Speaker 1: Me too. 687 00:43:06,110 --> 00:43:06,330 Speaker 3: Yeah. 688 00:43:06,810 --> 00:43:09,330 Speaker 4: Um, I mean, I've had anxiety and depression, the larger 689 00:43:09,370 --> 00:43:11,510 Speaker 4: part of my life. So I'm, I, it's a very, 690 00:43:11,770 --> 00:43:17,350 Speaker 4: very real thing. Um, But I'm sorry. I don't care 691 00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 4: where somebody stands religiously, spiritually. These type of vile acts 692 00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:31,419 Speaker 4: that you would think could only take place in hell, there's– 693 00:43:31,780 --> 00:43:32,860 Speaker 4: Satan is present. 694 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:41,890 Speaker 3: Demons are present. There's no– there's– There's just that type 695 00:43:41,950 --> 00:43:44,710 Speaker 3: of evil. Again, like you said, a lot of people 696 00:43:44,730 --> 00:43:47,770 Speaker 3: don't think it's real. Many people that I spoke to, Abby, 697 00:43:47,870 --> 00:43:51,290 Speaker 3: don't understand what happens during abortion. Oh, that could never happen. 698 00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:53,630 Speaker 3: They don't tear limbs off. Oh, they don't squeeze the 699 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:54,230 Speaker 3: baby's skull. 700 00:43:54,250 --> 00:43:54,890 Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no, no. 701 00:43:54,910 --> 00:43:55,630 Speaker 3: You're misinformed. 702 00:43:56,050 --> 00:44:00,590 Speaker 4: Oh, I understand that that's sickening. And that's like once 703 00:44:01,050 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 4: it would make a person want to vomit. 704 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 3: But no, that's what happens. 705 00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 2: That's very real. 706 00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 1: They think abortion is polite. 707 00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:10,590 Speaker 3: They think I had a family member use the word peaceful. 708 00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:13,029 Speaker 4: It's very peaceful for the baby because who would do 709 00:44:13,070 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 4: that to a baby otherwise? 710 00:44:15,050 --> 00:44:20,219 Speaker 3: Who in the world would do that? And that's the delusion, Abby. 711 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 3: That's part of the deception. That is part of our conditioning. 712 00:44:25,020 --> 00:44:31,500 Speaker 3: That's part of our desensitizing. that literally that just happens 713 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,980 Speaker 3: on commercials and billboards and music. And when we see 714 00:44:36,020 --> 00:44:40,340 Speaker 3: our favorite singers and celebrities up on stage accepting awards 715 00:44:40,420 --> 00:44:45,490 Speaker 3: and putting out on their social media, where they think 716 00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:51,569 Speaker 3: they're being great, especially for women and young girls. Again, 717 00:44:51,610 --> 00:44:53,690 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll never forget. I talk about this. Kelsey, 718 00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:56,330 Speaker 3: my youngest daughter, when I got a call from the principal, 719 00:44:57,180 --> 00:45:00,100 Speaker 3: Years ago, she got into a fight with another girl 720 00:45:00,739 --> 00:45:03,500 Speaker 3: because the little girl came to school and said in 721 00:45:04,450 --> 00:45:08,820 Speaker 3: third grade that her family was voting for Kamala because 722 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,390 Speaker 3: they cared about her rights. The little third grader, her rights, 723 00:45:13,070 --> 00:45:15,330 Speaker 3: that she would be able to have an abortion. And 724 00:45:15,370 --> 00:45:21,170 Speaker 3: that was so strong. And Kelsey was just adamantly just disgusted. 725 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,589 Speaker 3: And so she decided to tell the entire class what 726 00:45:25,630 --> 00:45:29,589 Speaker 3: abortion was and how terrible it was. And I still 727 00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:33,830 Speaker 3: remember the principal saying, Wow, this is off the record. 728 00:45:33,890 --> 00:45:38,540 Speaker 3: And I absolutely agree with your family's viewpoints. Kelsey's scaring 729 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 3: the children. But here's the thing. And what's so scary 730 00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:52,489 Speaker 3: and sad is, it's what is this teaching our children? 731 00:45:52,510 --> 00:45:53,730 Speaker 1: I know. 732 00:45:53,969 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 3: Like it's, what is this teaching our children? And for 733 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,700 Speaker 3: this specific example with Lindsay, just as we see with 734 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 3: this other mother. 735 00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:08,420 Speaker 4: Who did this to those, another set of three beautiful 736 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,339 Speaker 4: children again. So all of us who are struggling, all 737 00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:14,210 Speaker 4: of us who have depression, all of us who have 738 00:46:14,270 --> 00:46:18,460 Speaker 4: random crash outs, well, Hey, Maybe I'll get some good 739 00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 4: publicity like Lindsay. Maybe I can get some fan mail. Well, 740 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 4: and this is not normal. 741 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 3: This is not normal. 742 00:46:24,140 --> 00:46:34,089 Speaker 1: What? To the mom who's like, man, breastfeeding sucks. It's 743 00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:36,069 Speaker 1: not as great as I thought it was going to be. 744 00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 1: And I'm so freaking tired from getting up all night. Yep. 745 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,020 Speaker 2: That's part of motherhood. And you know what? 746 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,980 Speaker 1: You're going to look back at this time and you're 747 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: going to be like, that sucked, but you know what? 748 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,020 Speaker 1: I did it. And I gave my very best for 749 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,500 Speaker 1: my baby. And you're actually going to love that time. 750 00:46:50,580 --> 00:46:54,380 Speaker 1: I look at moms now breastfeeding their babies and I'm like, 751 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,500 Speaker 1: Wasn't that. 752 00:46:56,380 --> 00:46:57,219 Speaker 3: Just so special? 753 00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: It was such a special time. 754 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 2: In the moment, I was like, I'm dying, right? 755 00:47:04,219 --> 00:47:04,820 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 756 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:05,739 Speaker 3: And exhaustion. 757 00:47:05,780 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 4: I had black circles because my babies all, I co-slept 758 00:47:08,739 --> 00:47:11,670 Speaker 4: and they cluster fed all night long. But yet like 759 00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:15,770 Speaker 4: how phenomenal. It really was one of the greatest things 760 00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:17,230 Speaker 4: that my body ever did. 761 00:47:17,390 --> 00:47:17,950 Speaker 3: And I loved it. 762 00:47:18,030 --> 00:47:21,370 Speaker 4: And I did extended breastfeeding with all five of my kids. 763 00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:23,989 Speaker 4: And I would not trade a moment. 764 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,340 Speaker 1: But I'm like, you should be giving the message that like, yeah, 765 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,540 Speaker 1: but like we do hard things and you're going to 766 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,629 Speaker 1: look back on that and be like, that was like 767 00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:35,570 Speaker 1: some of the sweetest. I think you're talking about last things. 768 00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:38,550 Speaker 1: I remember with Fulton, I knew Fulton was going to 769 00:47:38,570 --> 00:47:41,790 Speaker 1: be my last baby. And you know, as he was 770 00:47:41,830 --> 00:47:44,250 Speaker 1: getting older and I was breastfeeding him, I just remember 771 00:47:44,450 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: every time he would breastfeed, I would be thinking, this 772 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,100 Speaker 1: is the last time. Yeah. Like, you know, is this 773 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,020 Speaker 1: the last time he's going to breastfeed? And I, I 774 00:47:53,060 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: just would be like, I remember taking pictures. I have 775 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,989 Speaker 1: all these pictures on my phone of me holding him 776 00:48:02,110 --> 00:48:02,820 Speaker 1: and him pressing me. 777 00:48:02,830 --> 00:48:03,569 Speaker 3: This could be it. 778 00:48:03,830 --> 00:48:08,649 Speaker 5: I was like, this could be it. I think back 779 00:48:08,670 --> 00:48:11,070 Speaker 5: to those times and I'm like, it was hard, but 780 00:48:11,170 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 5: what beautiful times that was in my life. I'm like, 781 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 5: those are the messages that we need to be giving moms. 782 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 5: Not like, oh, it's normal to have a crash out 783 00:48:23,020 --> 00:48:28,540 Speaker 5: and freak out and go, you know, rage throw stuff 784 00:48:28,580 --> 00:48:30,940 Speaker 5: into your sink or whatever. 785 00:48:31,020 --> 00:48:36,810 Speaker 2: Like, that's not normal. Like, let's handle our emotions better, okay? Like, 786 00:48:37,450 --> 00:48:39,250 Speaker 2: go take some time in prayer. 787 00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:39,330 Speaker 3: Go. 788 00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:41,410 Speaker 2: I don't know. 789 00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:46,170 Speaker 3: I mean, this whole trend, Abby, on social media of 790 00:48:46,210 --> 00:48:48,730 Speaker 3: the moms, like, same, Lindsay. 791 00:48:48,750 --> 00:48:50,410 Speaker 2: Same. 792 00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:54,629 Speaker 4: Holding their beautiful baby sleeping on their chest. Like, wait, 793 00:48:54,830 --> 00:48:56,130 Speaker 4: what is that message? 794 00:48:56,750 --> 00:48:58,529 Speaker 2: Their babies need to be taken away from them. I 795 00:48:58,570 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 2: have seen. 796 00:48:59,140 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 4: That is so disturbing at the highest level. 797 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: It is. And I've seen guys posting, they're like, That 798 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: are like, I broke up with my fiance. I broke 799 00:49:15,260 --> 00:49:18,390 Speaker 1: up with my girlfriend because she's like saying all this 800 00:49:18,450 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: like same Lindsay stuff. And I'm like, that is the 801 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,660 Speaker 1: right move. Yeah, seriously. Like if you're going to have, 802 00:49:24,739 --> 00:49:27,380 Speaker 1: if you're considering having children with a woman who is 803 00:49:27,460 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 1: identifying with a woman who strangled three of her children, 804 00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: that is the biggest red flag waving in front of 805 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,450 Speaker 1: your face. Do not marry a woman like that. Do 806 00:49:37,489 --> 00:49:40,660 Speaker 1: not stay with a woman like that. Because that is sick. 807 00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: That is pure sickness. That is pure evil. Like you 808 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: do not want that woman to be the mother of 809 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:47,900 Speaker 1: your children. 810 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:54,299 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just, man, I just, it's all again. 811 00:49:54,340 --> 00:49:57,489 Speaker 4: And that's, and that's how evil works. And that's how 812 00:49:57,510 --> 00:50:04,670 Speaker 4: it just, this, this deception and indoctrination seeps. 813 00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:07,530 Speaker 3: It's like lava. so quickly. 814 00:50:07,590 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 4: It's like an avalanche, Abby. And, and again, when I've 815 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 4: seen these videos of these mothers, I just think, my gosh, 816 00:50:18,219 --> 00:50:20,380 Speaker 4: like Satan is just laughing. 817 00:50:21,739 --> 00:50:26,020 Speaker 3: Like it is. God is weeping thinking this is what, like, 818 00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:28,980 Speaker 3: it's just so, it's just so incredibly sad. 819 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: Um, okay. 820 00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 2: Can we just like really quick make fun of something though? Yes, please. 821 00:50:36,070 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: Okay, we've talked about this before, but this also just 822 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:46,060 Speaker 1: plays into the evil nature of this stuff, but let's 823 00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:51,660 Speaker 1: also laugh at people. Okay, so remember when all those 824 00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: people went to the White House and they had that 825 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,580 Speaker 1: binder that said Epstein Files on it? 826 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,980 Speaker 3: Right. That white binder. Right. 827 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 2: They were like, we have the Epstein files, guys. 828 00:51:07,739 --> 00:51:08,540 Speaker 1: Holding it up. 829 00:51:08,739 --> 00:51:10,940 Speaker 2: It was like a bunch of influencers, right? And they 830 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 2: were like, we have the Epstein files. 831 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. 832 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,250 Speaker 1: And then it came to find out that it was 833 00:51:18,290 --> 00:51:19,710 Speaker 1: an empty binder. Right. 834 00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:21,850 Speaker 2: It actually had nothing in it. It was like an empty. 835 00:51:21,930 --> 00:51:24,050 Speaker 3: How embarrassing for them. 836 00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:28,140 Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay. So it was like an empty folder, right? 837 00:51:28,660 --> 00:51:30,940 Speaker 1: But one thing that I remember thinking, and you and 838 00:51:30,980 --> 00:51:35,130 Speaker 1: I talked about this, One thing that I remember thinking 839 00:51:35,170 --> 00:51:38,649 Speaker 1: about this, and we talked about it, was that how 840 00:51:38,770 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 1: freaking weird would it be if you actually did have 841 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,140 Speaker 1: the Epstein files in that folder, that you would be 842 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: standing outside... Smiling. Smiling, posing, taking selfies. 843 00:51:54,739 --> 00:51:55,780 Speaker 3: Charading, right. 844 00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,109 Speaker 4: Holding it up as if it's some prize. Because the 845 00:52:00,170 --> 00:52:07,870 Speaker 4: true contents... And even the redacted emails that we have seen, 846 00:52:07,890 --> 00:52:12,310 Speaker 4: I mean, really should leave you just dry heaving off 847 00:52:12,370 --> 00:52:13,810 Speaker 4: to the side. 848 00:52:13,850 --> 00:52:16,890 Speaker 1: You should be throwing up. 849 00:52:17,469 --> 00:52:17,730 Speaker 3: Right? 850 00:52:17,989 --> 00:52:21,669 Speaker 1: Right. You should be vomiting in a bathroom. Yeah. 851 00:52:21,890 --> 00:52:22,109 Speaker 3: Yeah. 852 00:52:22,310 --> 00:52:27,140 Speaker 2: Right? But they were all out, like, taking selfies and. 853 00:52:28,420 --> 00:52:30,569 Speaker 3: How disgustingly embarrassing. 854 00:52:31,110 --> 00:52:34,969 Speaker 4: Have any of them come forward and like fallen on 855 00:52:34,989 --> 00:52:39,110 Speaker 4: the sword? Have any single one of them where they're like, listen, 856 00:52:39,590 --> 00:52:41,060 Speaker 4: let's address the elephant in the room. 857 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,780 Speaker 1: And I remember when that happened, when they were taking 858 00:52:43,820 --> 00:52:44,739 Speaker 1: pictures and posting them. 859 00:52:44,780 --> 00:52:47,770 Speaker 2: And I remember you and I were like, What is this? 860 00:52:47,950 --> 00:52:51,879 Speaker 2: And I remember saying to you, there's nothing in that binder. Right. 861 00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: Because you were like, why were these people allowed to 862 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,700 Speaker 1: see this? And I said, there's nothing in that binder. 863 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,180 Speaker 1: And then it came out that there was nothing in 864 00:53:03,219 --> 00:53:05,989 Speaker 1: that binder. Because I thought, who in the world would 865 00:53:06,010 --> 00:53:11,850 Speaker 1: be just standing around after you've seen information about child rape? 866 00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:15,469 Speaker 4: Holding it up like they just won the Super Bowl, 867 00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:19,029 Speaker 4: like a trophy. Literally, they've got their trophy. Here it is. 868 00:53:19,110 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 4: Everyone take a look. 869 00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:24,830 Speaker 3: How embarrassing and disgusting. 870 00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:31,450 Speaker 2: Also, just like how evil. 871 00:53:31,469 --> 00:53:32,350 Speaker 5: Right? 872 00:53:32,969 --> 00:53:34,620 Speaker 2: Just like how. 873 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,899 Speaker 1: Gross and how evil to be parading around. 874 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,500 Speaker 2: Like you have some kind of prize. 875 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 3: Right. 876 00:53:44,219 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 2: Deceiving people. 877 00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: Like that. 878 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,300 Speaker 2: And then basically making a joke. 879 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:57,810 Speaker 4: About the most unfathomable evil that has taken place. 880 00:53:59,710 --> 00:54:03,630 Speaker 3: And it's like, oh my gosh. Because Abby, and you 881 00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:03,870 Speaker 3: and I. 882 00:54:03,850 --> 00:54:09,980 Speaker 4: Have also spoke about this, and we've tiptoed somewhat publicly 883 00:54:10,060 --> 00:54:15,380 Speaker 4: about it because a lot of these people are quote unquote, 884 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 4: on our side, right? They're on the right side. They're 885 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:24,690 Speaker 4: in the conservative movement. They're in the Christian space, which 886 00:54:24,850 --> 00:54:28,090 Speaker 4: makes it that much more unsettling. But it's for a 887 00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:32,489 Speaker 4: lot of these people, and now people are onto them. 888 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 4: For a lot of these influencers, so many people are 889 00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 4: onto them of like, what is this turned into? What 890 00:54:38,420 --> 00:54:41,670 Speaker 4: is this about What is your ministry? What is the 891 00:54:41,810 --> 00:54:44,150 Speaker 4: goal here? Is this for clicks? 892 00:54:44,170 --> 00:54:45,129 Speaker 3: Why would you. 893 00:54:45,090 --> 00:54:46,670 Speaker 2: Ever listen to those people again? 894 00:54:47,790 --> 00:54:48,029 Speaker 1: Right? 895 00:54:48,050 --> 00:54:55,819 Speaker 3: Those people specifically. All credibility, all integrity. 896 00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:00,060 Speaker 4: That's something you don't get back unless there is a 897 00:55:00,260 --> 00:55:05,109 Speaker 4: massive public confession and repentance. And please, I don't expect 898 00:55:05,410 --> 00:55:08,170 Speaker 4: any single person to trust me ever again. I may 899 00:55:08,250 --> 00:55:10,569 Speaker 4: try to earn it back for years and years to come, 900 00:55:10,610 --> 00:55:13,629 Speaker 4: but I don't expect a single one of you. But again, 901 00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 4: people are so stupid, just like the people that think 902 00:55:18,060 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 4: Trump can do no wrong and think that they treat 903 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,900 Speaker 4: him as if he's our savior. 904 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 3: It disgusts me. 905 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,910 Speaker 4: And again, I have no problem calling anyone out on 906 00:55:29,150 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 4: any side, in any party, any religion, It's like, what's 907 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 4: wrong is wrong. 908 00:55:36,140 --> 00:55:38,430 Speaker 3: What's evil is evil. What's a clown show is a 909 00:55:38,469 --> 00:55:42,730 Speaker 3: clown show. You know, whether someone's in. 910 00:55:42,750 --> 00:55:47,910 Speaker 4: Our group or not, it's actually, it's more so infuriating 911 00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 4: and embarrassing. If they're pro-life, if they're conservative Christians, if 912 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,760 Speaker 4: we're all swinging for the same team, it's like. 913 00:55:57,020 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 3: Wow, you're an embarrassment. 914 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,420 Speaker 2: You're an embarrassment. I can tell you right now, Well, 915 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 2: first of all, I would have never been in that room. 916 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: But second of all, if I would have been invited 917 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,489 Speaker 1: there and I would have walked into that room and 918 00:56:12,510 --> 00:56:15,830 Speaker 1: they would have been like, here's an empty binder. Now 919 00:56:15,870 --> 00:56:18,790 Speaker 1: we want you to go outside. I would have been like, peace. 920 00:56:19,090 --> 00:56:20,790 Speaker 1: Like I would have walked into the room. 921 00:56:20,830 --> 00:56:22,990 Speaker 3: You would have laughed and you would have been like 922 00:56:23,110 --> 00:56:23,730 Speaker 3: thrown in. 923 00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:24,630 Speaker 2: This is a joke. 924 00:56:25,050 --> 00:56:27,660 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I would have walked out of that room. 925 00:56:27,980 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 1: I would have walked straight up to the most important 926 00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:32,939 Speaker 1: reporter out there. And I would have said, they're about 927 00:56:32,980 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: to come out with the empty binders. Do not let 928 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:35,940 Speaker 1: them fool you. 929 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 4: Right. 930 00:56:37,460 --> 00:56:37,900 Speaker 2: No way. 931 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,340 Speaker 1: Like, right. Yeah. 932 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 3: No way. 933 00:56:39,940 --> 00:56:42,009 Speaker 1: I would have played into that charade. That's why they 934 00:56:42,030 --> 00:56:43,210 Speaker 1: don't invite me to the white house. 935 00:56:43,870 --> 00:56:44,109 Speaker 3: Yeah. 936 00:56:44,270 --> 00:56:45,290 Speaker 2: Because I'm not playing. 937 00:56:45,310 --> 00:56:48,710 Speaker 3: Because you can't, you can't be bought. You can't be bought. 938 00:56:48,790 --> 00:56:51,130 Speaker 2: No. And I'm not, I'm not going to lie. I'm 939 00:56:51,150 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 2: not going to lie. 940 00:56:52,430 --> 00:56:53,950 Speaker 1: Right. It's, it's. 941 00:56:54,050 --> 00:56:54,250 Speaker 3: Yeah. 942 00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:56,300 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to play the game. 943 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: Every once in a while, I do get invited to 944 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,469 Speaker 1: something at the White House, and I never go. But 945 00:57:02,530 --> 00:57:03,950 Speaker 1: every once in a while, I do get invited to 946 00:57:03,989 --> 00:57:06,890 Speaker 1: something at the White House, and I'm like, I think 947 00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:09,469 Speaker 1: you made a mistake inviting me. 948 00:57:09,610 --> 00:57:10,290 Speaker 2: All right. 949 00:57:10,969 --> 00:57:13,370 Speaker 4: I may be taken out in handcuffs if I come 950 00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:15,570 Speaker 4: and say what should really be said. 951 00:57:15,590 --> 00:57:19,700 Speaker 1: I think this was an accident putting me on the list. 952 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,140 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just such a weird– that was such. 953 00:57:21,940 --> 00:57:24,870 Speaker 3: A weird– it's, it's so weird. 954 00:57:24,970 --> 00:57:29,390 Speaker 4: And I'll tell you a lot of, you know, conservative, 955 00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:32,130 Speaker 4: because we've seen this, it's what's, what's very noticeable. We've 956 00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:36,330 Speaker 4: seen this over the years, massive shift from whether you're 957 00:57:36,370 --> 00:57:41,390 Speaker 4: a CNN or Fox news or wherever you watch, wherever 958 00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 4: you get your news. I mean, influencers and podcasters have 959 00:57:45,220 --> 00:57:48,260 Speaker 4: by far taken over the news stations. 960 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 3: Right. 961 00:57:49,540 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 4: And, um, so many people that I once respected and 962 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 4: took their word for gold. Like again, I could post 963 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,230 Speaker 4: something on my personal platform or our joint page, Abby, 964 00:58:02,550 --> 00:58:05,110 Speaker 4: and I wouldn't, if they said it or they had 965 00:58:05,150 --> 00:58:07,610 Speaker 4: it posted, I would not need a double, triple check. 966 00:58:07,730 --> 00:58:09,290 Speaker 4: I would not need a double check because I'm like, 967 00:58:09,330 --> 00:58:12,310 Speaker 4: that is gold. I know someone on their team has 968 00:58:12,350 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 4: checked it seven times, so I don't even need to, right? 969 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,140 Speaker 4: So many of those people I have lost such respect 970 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:27,500 Speaker 4: for And I no longer trust. And it has become 971 00:58:28,460 --> 00:58:34,220 Speaker 4: somewhat of a mockery. And it's easy just to see through, like, 972 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,620 Speaker 4: this is a joke. This is like, you know, and 973 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,220 Speaker 4: I guess that's good because it's If you're praying for 974 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 4: the fruits of the spirit, if you're praying for wisdom 975 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,180 Speaker 4: and discernment, God's going to give it to you. And 976 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,260 Speaker 4: I think more and more people are being able to 977 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,060 Speaker 4: see through the BS, but obviously not enough, Abby, because 978 00:58:57,100 --> 00:59:03,890 Speaker 4: we still have this large mask of people with these 979 00:59:03,930 --> 00:59:09,970 Speaker 4: goggles on that are just seeing reality for what it's not. Yeah. 980 00:59:10,050 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 4: And man, so it is. It's like, you know, the 981 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 4: Bible even tells us, you know, guard your heart, guard 982 00:59:16,780 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 4: your mind. It's like, man, be careful who you're following. 983 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,540 Speaker 4: Be careful who you're listening to. You know, when the 984 00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 4: snake has bit you once, don't go back to the 985 00:59:28,580 --> 00:59:32,940 Speaker 4: snake again. You know, when someone has shown you that 986 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,500 Speaker 4: they're a clown, that they cannot be trusted, it's. 987 00:59:39,550 --> 00:59:43,270 Speaker 3: Just, you know. And then there's things too, Abby, of these, 988 00:59:44,330 --> 00:59:45,150 Speaker 3: you know, we all. 989 00:59:45,010 --> 00:59:47,350 Speaker 4: Have, gosh, and I always say I'm one of the 990 00:59:47,370 --> 00:59:51,750 Speaker 4: biggest sinners. I just, my goodness, I'm so thankful for Jesus. 991 00:59:51,770 --> 00:59:54,590 Speaker 4: I just desperately need him every day of my life. 992 00:59:57,260 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 4: So we all have our baggage. We all have our sins. 993 01:00:01,070 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 4: But it's incredibly difficult to watch some people who, whether 994 01:00:06,910 --> 01:00:10,820 Speaker 4: they're currently leading, you know, because I can get over 995 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,140 Speaker 4: people who have sinned in the past and owned it, right? 996 01:00:13,180 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 3: They're living a life of repentance. They've owned it. That's 997 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 3: all of us. 998 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:18,020 Speaker 1: Right. 999 01:00:18,060 --> 01:00:21,820 Speaker 4: But when you see certain people who are living currently 1000 01:00:21,860 --> 01:00:26,370 Speaker 4: a double life and are currently doing things behind the 1001 01:00:26,410 --> 01:00:28,540 Speaker 4: scenes and showing up as someone else, it's like, man. 1002 01:00:28,610 --> 01:00:29,090 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1003 01:00:30,690 --> 01:00:32,490 Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's so hard. 1004 01:00:33,340 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: It's so hard. 1005 01:00:35,620 --> 01:00:40,140 Speaker 3: And you more so like, you know, anytime y'all that 1006 01:00:40,260 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 3: I've been in a big place or a green room 1007 01:00:44,380 --> 01:00:46,500 Speaker 3: with some big people, it's because I've been with Abby. 1008 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:52,030 Speaker 4: And I've just seen a few examples, just even sometimes 1009 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,550 Speaker 4: sitting back and watching someone interact with other people for 1010 01:00:55,590 --> 01:00:58,330 Speaker 4: two minutes, not even needing to interact with the person, 1011 01:00:58,370 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 4: but just watching. how they interact. It's like, man, when 1012 01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 4: they say, don't ever meet your hero. There's been times 1013 01:01:08,540 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 4: where I'm like, oh, definitely didn't see that. It's just, 1014 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 4: but it's also an important reminder that social media. 1015 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:18,380 Speaker 1: Is, a. 1016 01:01:20,090 --> 01:01:21,470 Speaker 2: Lot of it's a facade. 1017 01:01:22,070 --> 01:01:22,450 Speaker 1: It is. 1018 01:01:22,810 --> 01:01:24,590 Speaker 2: Hey, what happened to Harrison Butker? 1019 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 4: Oh my glory, which he is one that I did have, 1020 01:01:29,860 --> 01:01:31,950 Speaker 4: I was in a green room with because you and 1021 01:01:31,990 --> 01:01:35,970 Speaker 4: Harrison spoke together. And I'll tell you what, he was 1022 01:01:36,690 --> 01:01:40,350 Speaker 4: so genuine and exactly like he portrays to be. And 1023 01:01:40,410 --> 01:01:43,950 Speaker 4: I watched him interact a lot with people and he seemed, wait, 1024 01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:44,890 Speaker 4: did something bad happen? 1025 01:01:45,090 --> 01:01:46,830 Speaker 2: I don't know. But like, where did he go? 1026 01:01:47,150 --> 01:01:49,330 Speaker 3: He was like- Did he just, you know, I wonder 1027 01:01:49,370 --> 01:01:53,250 Speaker 3: if he just kind of like- He was like so popular. 1028 01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:53,350 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1029 01:01:53,870 --> 01:01:54,650 Speaker 3: It disappeared. 1030 01:01:54,670 --> 01:01:57,310 Speaker 2: It's like everywhere. And then all of a sudden he 1031 01:01:57,370 --> 01:01:57,770 Speaker 2: was just like. 1032 01:01:57,810 --> 01:02:01,890 Speaker 4: After that commencement speech, literally in the, where you had, 1033 01:02:02,050 --> 01:02:05,130 Speaker 4: where you were the keynote at that gala in Nashville, 1034 01:02:05,590 --> 01:02:09,700 Speaker 4: he also spoke and that was like at his height. 1035 01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 3: That was like, he was trending everywhere. 1036 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,140 Speaker 2: And then he just like disappeared. 1037 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 4: But I remember it was like bad. He had a 1038 01:02:17,540 --> 01:02:21,460 Speaker 4: move that people found his like resonance and, And you 1039 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 4: could tell he is just a man who just wants 1040 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,340 Speaker 4: to protect his family. 1041 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,820 Speaker 3: I wonder if he just kind of... I wonder if. 1042 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,100 Speaker 1: That's why he just kind of dropped off the scene. Yeah. 1043 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,910 Speaker 1: If he was like, I don't want to do this anymore. 1044 01:02:33,310 --> 01:02:35,370 Speaker 4: Hey, as we end this, speaking of that, something I'm 1045 01:02:35,390 --> 01:02:39,810 Speaker 4: going to share and I'll give like little periodic updates throughout. 1046 01:02:40,010 --> 01:02:44,450 Speaker 4: But so today we are recording. This will run probably 1047 01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:49,930 Speaker 4: a couple of days later. Today is August 27th. 2026. I, 1048 01:02:50,190 --> 01:02:55,550 Speaker 4: on July 13th, 2026 got off social media and, uh, 1049 01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:59,870 Speaker 4: you could say I've been a social media addict, um, 1050 01:03:00,410 --> 01:03:03,250 Speaker 4: for many, many years. And it's been the biggest part 1051 01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:09,870 Speaker 4: of my life for about 13 years. Um, um, and 1052 01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:14,660 Speaker 4: I've relied on it for whether it was money or fulfillment, um, 1053 01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:19,260 Speaker 4: in different ways. And it was just, it really became 1054 01:03:19,300 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 4: my identity. Like that's, it was just like, that's what 1055 01:03:25,020 --> 01:03:30,060 Speaker 4: I allowed it to become. And so it was about 1056 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 4: four days before the 13th. So probably around July 9th, 1057 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:41,690 Speaker 4: I felt very clearly God impress upon my heart, give 1058 01:03:41,730 --> 01:03:42,370 Speaker 4: me one year. 1059 01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:44,410 Speaker 3: And that was it. 1060 01:03:45,930 --> 01:03:50,530 Speaker 4: But I instantaneously knew exactly what he meant. 1061 01:03:51,730 --> 01:03:53,710 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh boy. 1062 01:03:55,410 --> 01:03:58,630 Speaker 4: Because I was kind of at a peak of things 1063 01:03:58,830 --> 01:04:01,070 Speaker 4: on my social media and I was liking it and 1064 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 4: got back to monetizing and sometimes very superficially comments and 1065 01:04:11,140 --> 01:04:14,340 Speaker 4: the high, you know, the likes, you know, it's very, 1066 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,750 Speaker 4: it's very quickly passing, but just as anything that's can 1067 01:04:18,790 --> 01:04:22,510 Speaker 4: be addictive, you know, it gives you the quick dopamine 1068 01:04:22,570 --> 01:04:24,830 Speaker 4: hit and then it leaves and then it leaves. 1069 01:04:24,890 --> 01:04:25,910 Speaker 3: It's very superficial. 1070 01:04:27,820 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 4: But I knew God wanted me to step away for 1071 01:04:31,540 --> 01:04:34,540 Speaker 4: a year. So Abby, I have to tell you, it 1072 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:40,210 Speaker 4: has been Lovely for the most part. I really thought 1073 01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:43,490 Speaker 4: I was going to go through like withdrawals and just like, 1074 01:04:43,590 --> 01:04:44,330 Speaker 4: oh my gosh. 1075 01:04:44,530 --> 01:04:47,670 Speaker 3: And again, I get nervous sometimes like if I give 1076 01:04:47,710 --> 01:04:50,750 Speaker 3: you an update, like as soon as I say this, 1077 01:04:50,790 --> 01:04:53,820 Speaker 3: like tomorrow's going to be terrible. But it's like. 1078 01:04:55,420 --> 01:04:58,860 Speaker 4: When you're like walking in obedience to something that God 1079 01:04:59,020 --> 01:05:02,020 Speaker 4: asked of you, there's like this certain piece that's. 1080 01:05:01,820 --> 01:05:03,979 Speaker 3: Like, man, this feels good though. 1081 01:05:04,420 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's freedom. 1082 01:05:06,260 --> 01:05:11,940 Speaker 3: It's freedom. It's freedom. And so I'm one and a 1083 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:18,870 Speaker 3: half months in, exactly. And it's like, I often think 1084 01:05:18,930 --> 01:05:22,110 Speaker 3: in 10 and a half months, I don't even know 1085 01:05:22,130 --> 01:05:23,190 Speaker 3: if I'll want to be back. 1086 01:05:24,010 --> 01:05:25,990 Speaker 4: Like I may come back to just be like, hey, 1087 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 4: I just actually might delete all the, like who even knows? 1088 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 3: Who even knows? 1089 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,140 Speaker 4: And so I'm just, I'm giving it to God, but 1090 01:05:31,180 --> 01:05:36,370 Speaker 4: it's like, it is so refreshing. And I am so 1091 01:05:37,070 --> 01:05:40,690 Speaker 4: much more present with my kids. It's like, I already 1092 01:05:40,770 --> 01:05:43,970 Speaker 4: knew I was multitasking way too much. And I was like, oh, 1093 01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:46,070 Speaker 4: this is so cute. Let me put this up on 1094 01:05:46,090 --> 01:05:49,180 Speaker 4: my story. Or like, let's quick, quick, quick. We got 1095 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,900 Speaker 4: to get a picture because I want to make a post. 1096 01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1097 01:05:51,860 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 4: And like that is non-existent. And like to live in 1098 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:03,570 Speaker 4: the moments has been weirdly so satisfying. And like, wow, 1099 01:06:04,030 --> 01:06:04,830 Speaker 4: this is how. 1100 01:06:04,750 --> 01:06:09,670 Speaker 3: It's supposed to be. It's really nice. And the kids 1101 01:06:10,990 --> 01:06:11,530 Speaker 3: notice it. 1102 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,740 Speaker 4: And it's been like a nice break for them because 1103 01:06:15,820 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 4: I'm not as, you know, it's just, I don't know. 1104 01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 3: It's really neat. So a month and a half in. 1105 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 1: You're doing it. You're doing it. 1106 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:24,630 Speaker 3: I'm doing it. 1107 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,140 Speaker 1: You're doing it. 1108 01:06:26,260 --> 01:06:26,700 Speaker 2: It's good. 1109 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's good. Excited. 1110 01:06:30,940 --> 01:06:31,500 Speaker 2: I hope like. 1111 01:06:32,050 --> 01:06:36,750 Speaker 3: Within like 10 months, there's just so many good, amazing. 1112 01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:38,590 Speaker 2: Things. 1113 01:06:39,030 --> 01:06:43,700 Speaker 4: And if at the end of it, if the quote 1114 01:06:43,740 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 4: unquote only thing there is, is a more peace and 1115 01:06:49,260 --> 01:06:52,340 Speaker 4: closeness with God, then amazing. 1116 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 3: That's worth it. 1117 01:06:54,260 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 4: Then that's worth it. And this tiny trade-off for everything 1118 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,620 Speaker 4: he's done for me, it almost seems embarrassing to try 1119 01:07:02,660 --> 01:07:03,660 Speaker 4: to make a big deal of it. 1120 01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 3: So anyways, good stuff. 1121 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:08,060 Speaker 2: We'll see. 1122 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,700 Speaker 3: Maybe at like month three or four, I'll be like, God, 1123 01:07:12,740 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I miss you. 1124 01:07:14,580 --> 01:07:15,140 Speaker 2: I hope not. 1125 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't either. I think it's just going to keep 1126 01:07:16,620 --> 01:07:20,030 Speaker 1: getting better. I think. Yeah. 1127 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 2: I think so too. 1128 01:07:21,810 --> 01:07:24,090 Speaker 3: It's kind of, it's cool. 1129 01:07:24,250 --> 01:07:24,510 Speaker 1: So. 1130 01:07:25,110 --> 01:07:26,890 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just going to keep getting better. 1131 01:07:27,030 --> 01:07:32,740 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll start this movement to- Everybody leave, leave social media. 1132 01:07:32,980 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not really on social media that much, but. 1133 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,780 Speaker 3: Yeah, you really aren't. You really aren't. 1134 01:07:39,460 --> 01:07:42,090 Speaker 4: I mean, Abby gets, there's so many of us on 1135 01:07:42,130 --> 01:07:45,650 Speaker 4: her teams and ministries and she works extremely closely with 1136 01:07:45,710 --> 01:07:49,250 Speaker 4: all of us and everything goes through approval and so forth. 1137 01:07:49,310 --> 01:07:55,140 Speaker 4: But Abby is blessed enough that. She has a lot 1138 01:07:55,180 --> 01:07:55,700 Speaker 4: of us that. 1139 01:07:55,940 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have people helping me, so I don't really. 1140 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,380 Speaker 2: That's really a blessing. 1141 01:08:00,940 --> 01:08:03,750 Speaker 1: To me because I just don't get on it. 1142 01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 3: Right? 1143 01:08:05,260 --> 01:08:06,140 Speaker 1: So it's super. 1144 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,820 Speaker 4: Like this morning, literally, in between drop-offs at school, I'm 1145 01:08:10,860 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 4: sitting on my couch, legit, no lie, Abby, drinking my coffee, 1146 01:08:14,660 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 4: and I'm moderating some of the comments on your page. 1147 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,300 Speaker 3: It's like going through some of the. 1148 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,780 Speaker 1: Ridiculous talent. 1149 01:08:26,939 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 3: Right. But it's just something, isn't it? 1150 01:08:33,340 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 1: I know. 1151 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,620 Speaker 2: I just want to post. I just feel like I 1152 01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:36,900 Speaker 2: want to. 1153 01:08:37,740 --> 01:08:40,429 Speaker 1: There should be a social media where there's no comments allowed. 1154 01:08:40,450 --> 01:08:46,170 Speaker 1: I just want to post and nobody can say anything. 1155 01:08:48,350 --> 01:08:48,690 Speaker 2: Right? 1156 01:08:48,710 --> 01:08:50,469 Speaker 1: I really got what you did. 1157 01:08:50,350 --> 01:08:51,229 Speaker 2: About social media. 1158 01:08:51,250 --> 01:08:55,070 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's just so funny. 1159 01:08:55,250 --> 01:08:59,849 Speaker 4: Like, I feel like both of us have heard so much, like, 1160 01:09:00,870 --> 01:09:04,639 Speaker 4: you you even more so but it's like some of 1161 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 4: the things I'm like man I've never even heard that 1162 01:09:07,020 --> 01:09:09,440 Speaker 4: word before like some of the things that I've been 1163 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 4: said to me I'm like I need to look that 1164 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,179 Speaker 4: up I'm not sure. 1165 01:09:12,060 --> 01:09:16,450 Speaker 1: What that means oh my god I'm like, I just 1166 01:09:16,490 --> 01:09:17,450 Speaker 1: want to give my opinion. 1167 01:09:17,490 --> 01:09:20,190 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear yours. All right. Thanks. 1168 01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:23,290 Speaker 3: Thanks so much. 1169 01:09:23,790 --> 01:09:27,610 Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. 1170 01:09:27,930 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 2: Well, thanks for joining us this week. 1171 01:09:30,140 --> 01:09:31,380 Speaker 1: We're back now. 1172 01:09:31,900 --> 01:09:36,480 Speaker 3: We're back, baby. School's back in session. Abby and Reg 1173 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,179 Speaker 3: are back in session. 1174 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:38,269 Speaker 1: Yep. 1175 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:46,330 Speaker 4: And we will... be giving you our unfiltered take every week. 1176 01:09:46,450 --> 01:09:47,650 Speaker 4: So get ready. 1177 01:09:47,670 --> 01:09:48,309 Speaker 2: It's good to be back. 1178 01:09:49,010 --> 01:09:49,210 Speaker 1: Yep. 1179 01:09:50,810 --> 01:09:53,570 Speaker 3: All right, guys, until next. 1180 01:09:53,390 --> 01:09:56,009 Speaker 2: Week, keep raising your little saints. 1181 01:10:00,939 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 3: Take heart.