WEBVTT - 477 The Importance of Scripture Memory 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:08.720 Life Audio. Hello, Welcome to the Praying Christian Women Podcast. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:10.880 I am Alana here with Jamie. How are you. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:13.800 I'm doing well, how are you? God? 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:18.240 I am just really really excited about today's topic. I 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.920 always love meeting with you, but today's topic, I'm. 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.319 Like, I cannot wait to talk about this. That makes 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:25.160 me so happy. 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.600 Yeah, and this is a topic that's like, it's not revolutionary, 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.159 it's a very basic topic. But I love going back 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.839 to some of these basics because they're so important, and 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:39.600 sometimes we gloss over them for the you know, frillier more, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.000 you know, obscure things. But this topic is yeah, yeah, 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.199 I want to tell everybody what the topic is. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:47.040 Are we going to leave? 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.680 No? No, let's let's drag it out for at least 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.560 another ten minutes, because they most certainly have not read 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:55.920 the episode title, so they. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.040 Have no idea, no idea whatsoever. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.840 Talking with a friend yesterday and she asked how the 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.319 podcast was going, but she was really sweet about it. 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.640 And if I went in to be like snarky, I 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:10.640 could tell you in the mean way She's like, so 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.759 are you still podcasting about prayer? And truly it was 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.399 just kind of a like, hey, are you still doing 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.080 this thing that I remember at one point you said 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.119 you were doing. But it brought me back to when 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.440 you and I started this idea. It was like, how 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.280 much is there to say about prayer? It's like, prayer 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.720 is talking to God. It is important to do. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.119 So I think we even had the conversation of, like, well, 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.320 when we eventually run out of topics, and you know, 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.160 maybe we'll switch gears and do it as something else. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.319 Like I think it was a foregone conclusion that we 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.560 were eventually going to kind of run out of topics. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.400 But here we are, what like over five hundred episodes, and. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.560 You know, I'm so thankful and I'm I love today 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.960 we're going to be talking about memorizing scripture. So recently 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.760 you and I have been talking just about practical ways 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.800 to add more Bible reading into our day to day lives, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.320 which is a struggle that going into this new year, 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.200 you and I both confessed that we were having. And 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.880 so this is a tangent off of that, and we're 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.680 going to be spending some time to talk about scripture memory. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.240 And the moment it popped into my head that we 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:26.280 were going to do an episode about this, I realized, 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:30.280 like Oh, I've been sitting on like the book in 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.519 my brain, like I have so much to say about this. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:34.919 Wow, that's exciting. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:40.040 I'm so excited. So, because we're talking about scripture memory, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.040 I went to think about things you remember from your childhood. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.760 What is some just like jingle or something just so 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.000 random that you still remember super clearly from growing up. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.200 Okay, I remember this commercial and it was funny because 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.960 I was in the process of learning the song for 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.800 Elease on the piano and there was a McDonald's commercial 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.840 that came on and it was to the tune of 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.160 for Elease. Oh yeah it was, And I still remember 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.360 the words and the girls going she's singing along as 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.800 she's playing her piano recital, and she goes, then I 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.800 will have my chuckle at shake and cheeseburger and also 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.320 ones and also fries, and I'll eat all my fries 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.639 myself and not give any to my dumb brother, hands off, 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.240 all mine, all mine. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:29.559 Yeah. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.000 I think it really shows I think that every single 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.679 one of us can go back and remember some kind 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.840 of jingle or some kind of playground ditty or for me, 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.600 it was all the jump rope songs. 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:40.920 Oh. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:41.680 I loved that. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.760 The double Dutch and all the difference and the Miss 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.080 Mary Max the hand. 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:52.440 Yes, all of those ages live in your head forever, 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.160 which is what we're talking about. So like for me, 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:59.720 it was always like bubblegum commercials. For some reason, those 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.680 were jingles that always stood out the most. And so 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.520 it's kind of this idea of if the people who 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.480 made the bubblegum commercials know how to get something in 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.120 your head that you remember it forty years later, we 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.840 could probably find a way that we can remember a 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.279 Bible verse. Right. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.320 I would get to do that, I surely hope. 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:23.559 So another thing, memory wise, it just flips in my brain. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.640 I read so much to the kids that there are 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.279 certain children books that I could either just sit down 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.120 and recite to you without having it in front of me, 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.320 or if I hear a phrase, it will bring me 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:35.920 like right back to that whole book and all of 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.119 a sudden, like I'm resigning the whole book in my head. 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.800 Yeah, So you know, as an aside, what's so funny? 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.840 So Baby Beluga was a song, yes, and it was 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.839 by Raffi. It was also we had the like board 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:53.279 book of Baby Beluga that was our oldest favorite book 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.800 and like it was just kind of his theme song. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:56.400 He loved it. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:01.160 And I recently, like, after having no ever known this before, 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.919 someone sent me a song. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.600 It's called the Hockey Song by Raffi. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.000 Oh yeah, and our kids all play hockey, and I 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.479 can't believe that I never knew that the author of 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.760 Baby Yuga also had a hockey song. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.880 Anyway, that's fun, that's just fun. Yeah, it is. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:23.760 Yeah. I think that there is something beautiful about having 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:28.720 shared collective memories. It's something that I feel a little 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.440 sad for our kids generation. I think they have it 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.719 a little less because when we were growing up, it 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.800 was like nursery rhymes, and now our kids, because of 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:46.360 TikTok and YouTube, it can be anything, right, Yeah, I 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:52.599 heard the funnest little Kids song, but I'm guaranteed that 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.760 most little kids are never going to know it, and 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.240 my grandkids will never know unless I teach it to them. 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.440 But it was like it was an Internet sensation for 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:06.280 all of a week. Do you know the Oh no, 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.240 now it's out of my brain. I'm gonna need to 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:12.719 run upstairs and ask my son. Those little funny salamanders 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.720 what are they called? The axe lottles? 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.920 Oh? Those are I love accel Lottles. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:21.880 Yeah, there is an axe Lottle preschool song which is 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:27.200 know that so cute and so catchy. But if I 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.520 taught it to like my baby or my grandbabies who 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.039 don't exist yet, it's not like they're going to go 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.400 to preschool and their teacher is going to know the 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.600 same song and then when they go to their best 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.760 friend's house or grandma's going to know the same song. 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.440 And when you and I were younger, there was a 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.040 little more of that, you. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:49.080 Know, there were fewer collective songs, like everything was. Things 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.360 were passed on from person to person, and there were 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.279 only so many, right exactly, and so it's just a 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:56.120 quantity thing. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:57.840 It is sad, it is. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.359 But everybody with preschool or or everybody who thinks that 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.680 axel Lottles are super cute and adorable, just do yourself 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.600 a favor and look up the axl Lottle song. You 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.400 don't need to have kids in the house or young 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.640 kids to appreciate it. It's really fun. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.840 I'm doing it all right. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.880 Well while people have you know, paused us to go 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.040 listen to the axl Lottle song and then come back, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:19.720 do you have a verse of the day for us 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:20.560 I do. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.360 This is a verse about God's word from Deuteronomy six, 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.160 verses six through nine. These commandments that I give you 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.680 today are to be on your hearts, Impress them on 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:30.760 your children, Talk about them when you sit at home 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.280 and when you walk along the road, when you lie down, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.560 and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.440 your hands, and bind them on your foreheads. Write them 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.960 on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates. 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.000 I love this one, and I didn't even realize. There's 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.480 a whole other aspect to this topic that I wasn't 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.360 even planning to talk about, and that is how to 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:55.280 help your children learn how to memorize Bible verses. Because 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.640 our kids were in a Wana, which I think is 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:01.960 a great program for scripture memory, but we would also 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.679 memorize longer passages. This is one of the first longer 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.640 passages that I talked to the kids, and a few 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.720 of the tips I used we did it real sing songy, 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:17.200 so it was talk about them when you sit at home, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.880 when you lie down, and when you stand up. Because 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.520 it's way easier to learn a song than it is 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.320 to learn a poem. For example, right. How many of 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.800 us know songs that we just know the words too 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.880 and didn't work to memorize versus how many poems do 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.360 you have memorize it? You didn't like work to memorize, right, right, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.640 And so there was that. We combined it with some 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.599 hand emotions, which can also be really, really useful. I 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.320 think those were the two biggies for that specific one. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.360 But yeah, I'll add that to the list. This might 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.760 turn into a mini series about scripture memorization, but no, 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.240 I love that passage. I think it's a beautiful reminder 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:01.880 of the importance of imparting scripture to your chill specifically, well, 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.560 before we dive into the meat, you want to open 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.720 us up in prayer, Yes I will. 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.800 Lord, We thank you for your word, and just pray 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:14.800 that this time would just be informative and that it 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:20.280 would be something that would really enrich our desire to 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:25.800 and excitement for memorizing scripture. It can sound like a 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:30.120 very dry academic thing, but Lord, we love it. We 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.120 hear word is a lamp to our feet, a light 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.840 to our path is it is everything, And we just 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.760 pray that you would help us just to continue to 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:43.120 cultivate an excitement for your word to cultivate a hunger 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.000 and thirst to take it in and incorporate it into 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.720 our lives and help us to find creative ways to 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:49.040 do that. 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.559 In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.320 So I'm trying to figure out the best place to start, 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.440 because so much of what I want to share is 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:01.760 really more of a testimony of my journey with Bible memory, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.839 and through that there will be lots of tips and 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.600 tricks and takeaways. But before we even jump into that, 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.040 let's just all get on the exact same page. Why 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.600 is this even important? Why are we talking about it? 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.120 How would you answer a cynic who says, and you 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:18.760 don't even have to be a cynic to say this, 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.600 What's point of memorizing scripture? When I could just look 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.040 it up on my phone? Right? Like? What's the point 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.400 of memorizing the Times table now that I could just 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.440 ask Siri to do it for me? Is what I'm 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.400 sure some elementary kids are asking their teachers. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.760 Oh, don't get me started. So I have very strong 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.240 So we had a conversation. I and our middle kid 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:46.640 had a very lengthy conversation on this about math. It 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.160 was the very same thing because there's a certain type 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.560 of math and statistics that you need to know the 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.280 formula for, but there's also a whole training on how 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.960 to use your calculator to find the same answer, and 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.600 they're learning both. He was trying to convince me that 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.520 his teacher said they only need to know the calculator version, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.360 and I just I was like, no, that's not true. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.760 His worksheet actually clearly in the instructions said that they 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:12.679 needed to do both. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.439 So you know, I was right. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.520 But when we talked about it, I told him it's yes, 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:20.760 it's important to be able to use the tools that 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:24.080 we've been given, and this is for both math and scripture. 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.800 Memory. Yes, use the tools. I have embraced AI. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:33.439 I've embraced search engines, and they literally have replaced at 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.480 this point my concordance because they incorporate concordances. I don't 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:42.320 open up my physical concordance anymore. But you also need 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:46.560 to know how to find these things and come up 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.560 with the answers if those things aren't available. And where 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:56.800 scripture differs is it's not just finding it, it's having 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.840 it available to you. And I don't want to be morbid, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.400 but look at the signs of the times. Look at 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.920 our reliance on technology. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.720 It's going to crash. It just is it has to. 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.720 I don't want to, you know it, just at some point, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:17.000 whether it's temporarily you lose power, whether it's you end 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.040 up Heaven forbid, you're in a prison cell and you're 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.520 not given access to an electronic or. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:24.600 Maybe even a Bible. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.040 I don't want to go down a fear route because 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.920 that's not what I'm intending. But we have to get 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:36.040 to the point where we are able to recall God's 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.680 word without having to rely on anything but our brain 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:43.839 and our spirit and the Holy Spirit, because at some 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.640 point you're not going to have it. What if you're 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.560 hiking with a friend and you have no cell service 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.480 and you're talking to them, and you have no Bible 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.240 on you, and they ask you a really important question 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.320 about faith and about God, and you don't have anything 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.640 because there's no well of knowledge to draw from for 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.440 the Holy Spirit to kind of dig from. And I'm 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.320 not saying that as a Christian like that has a 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.120 background in the Bible, that you won't have something for 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.280 the Holy Spirit to bring to your mind. God is 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:18.880 very creative, but we I believe firmly and strongly that 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:23.600 it is our responsibility as believers to do just this. 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.319 These commandments are to be on your hearts. They're not 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.280 just to be things that you read during church service 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.079 on Sundays or Saturdays. You know when they were in synagogue. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.680 Impress them on your children, talk about them, and tie 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:40.040 them as symbols on your hands, bind them on your foreheads. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.920 Those hands and foreheads are symbolic of your identity. This 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.480 is who you are. This isn't just words on a page. 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.440 So I can't emphasize enough that we cannot rely on 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.400 electronics to bring to mind the things that the Holy 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.520 Spirit was always meant to bring to mind. And if 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.559 we don't have a well for the Holy Spirit to 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.920 draw from, it's going to be very difficult, and at 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.720 the very least, it's not going to be nearly as 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.120 effective as if you have committed some scripture to memory, 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.559 and at the very worst, it's going to be ineffective 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:27.440 and you're not going to have anything to be drawn from. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.560 Yeah, no, I think that makes a ton of sense. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.920 I would add to that that the act of memorizing 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:36.240 scripture can really help you slow down and absorb the 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.200 meat of a passage in a way that just reading 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.960 it for a lot of people wouldn't let it sink in. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.720 So even if I knew that, I would always have 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.240 a digital Bible and a concordance at my fingertips whenever 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.320 I went in, I would still be able to rattle 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:56.560 off a lot of benefits of memorizing scripture or another 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.440 one lying in bed at night, especially if you're prone 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:03.840 to and so, or you're prone to anxiety, learning to 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:08.640 just go through Bible passages as you're falling asleep and 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.160 you don't want to have to have your phone in 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:11.520 your hands do that, because that's going to make it 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.240 even harder to fall asleep or get you more distracted. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:19.320 So in addition, I would list those some of the 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.480 big benefits. I think of it kind of like a paramedic. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.120 I know that since you've taken organic chemistry, you're going 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.720 to get the irony of this. So, knowing what you 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.280 know about organic chemistry as a class and what it 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:36.400 requires of students, you will understand how insulting it was 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:40.280 when I went to office hours with my organic chemistry professor, 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:46.240 and hugely printed up behind his desk was this quote 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.080 that said I never memorized something that I could look up, 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.720 and like, dude, you are literally making us memorize like 0:15:55.920 --> 0:16:01.920 a a jillion different rules and formula and nomenclatures. But 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.560 on the one hand, I get what your son is saying, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.080 Why do I need to memorize a formula if my 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.040 calculator will do it for me? Especially if I have 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:15.320 a decent understanding of what went into getting this formula, 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.280 so I at least know what the numbers are kind 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.880 of telling me I do I need more than that? Like, 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.640 I totally get that kind of question. And so I 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.360 think about the paramedic who theoretically there is nothing a 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.560 paramedic is going to encounter on the field that a 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:37.320 textbook or an AI or a Google search wouldn't walk 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.720 them through. But sometimes you got to just react. Sometimes 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.120 you've got to just have that knowledge at your fingertips. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.480 You can't say, hold on, let me, let me find 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.680 where it is in the book. You just needs to 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.160 have that muscle memory. And I think sometimes Bible memory 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.320 can also be muscle memory for when you're confronted with temptation, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.360 or you're confronted with fear, or or you're confronted with anger, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:07.840 or I think having Bible versus memorized can really help 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.000 you when it comes to being convicted. Right Like, honestly, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.720 when I think of the Bible verses that just pop 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.240 into my head so versus that I've memorized that pop 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.040 into my head when I'm not trying to conjure them, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:24.159 up ninety five percent of the time, they're probably Bible 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.359 verses that the Lord uses to convict me, which is 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.320 really important. You know, It's like toxins in your soul. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.720 You want to get those out of you. And so 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:37.080 I would add those to the list of reasons why 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.800 all of this is important to be talking about. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:44.600 If I would add another analogy, if you look at 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.760 just either looking up a verse when you need it 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:51.880 or versus actually memorizing it. As someone who's not good 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.440 with directions, I see it as a difference between relying 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.400 on my GPS. There are places in this town. We've 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.240 lived here for almost two years. There are places in 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:05.320 this town I have gone tens dozens of times, and 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.639 I've used the GPS every single time, and because of 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.439 how I'm wired, I couldn't get there if I had to, 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.520 because I just look at my instructions and I go 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.400 on autopilot when I don't have the GPS and I 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:22.679 actually need to go through the act of Okay, I 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.120 need to turn left at this road and right at 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:29.080 this landmark. It only takes one or two times, and 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:33.440 I've remembered it. So with scripture, it's the same thing. 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.720 If you're only looking it up based on a word 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.520 or two, it's not going to incorporate itself into you 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.800 in the same way as memorizing it in its entirety 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:44.320 without that crutch. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.720 That makes a lot of sense. I remember being so 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.119 proud this ISI decided about directions. I had learned how 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.639 to drive to your home and anchorage from Glen Allen, 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.119 like to get up with Glenn Highway and get to 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:58.080 your home. I knew how to do that, and I 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:02.800 also knew how to get from your house to the airport. 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.040 And once I had to go right from the Glenn 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:07.120 Highway to the airport. 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.320 Oh no, did you know my house first? 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.920 I know, I figured it out, and I was so 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.359 proud of myself. I was like, I know how to 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:16.760 do this. 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.080 That was pretty cool. I thought you were going. 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.879 To say that you didn't have to go to your house, 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:23.879 you had to get to my house and then go 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:25.840 to the airport, which I don't think would have been 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:26.680 the best route, but. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.439 I mean I probably went pretty close to your house. 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.879 We lived close to the airport, so it might have 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:35.320 made it. 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:35.720 I don't know. 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.480 I'm telling you my sense of direction really circuitously, but 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:40.600 I made it. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.960 So Yeah, I think those are all all reasons, and 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:45.720 you don't need to be a fearmonger. 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:46.040 You know. 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.159 We had a four day power outage when my husband 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.880 was a pastor and he had to finish his sermon 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.800 without any of the tools that he typically relied on, 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.959 and it was just a good reminder that, yeah, that 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:04.080 these are important and skills to have. I think that, 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:06.600 as much as it could make me sound like an 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:08.880 old phobia, I think it's really important for every household 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:14.280 to have Bible in print to rely on during a 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:18.800 power outage or something like that. And yeah, hiding that 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.040 word in your heart four times when you don't have 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.560 access to it, or times where you just need like 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.640 that emergency kit, the information or the verse to come 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:32.440 to you immediately, those are all really important. But honestly, 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.119 I would say that the best benefit, and this is 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:39.520 going to hopefully resonate to our praying Christian women audience. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:43.439 Is the act of memorizing itself helps you to be 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:48.800 more prayerful and meditative. So honestly, even if like I 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.399 had short term memory loss and I could memorize a 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.600 verse for like two minutes and then forget it, which 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:59.600 honestly like is a tiny bit accurate, it still is beneficial. 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.680 It still is beneficial to take the time to memorize that. 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.960 And yeah, so I'm really excited that it gets to 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.280 jump into. 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:10.199 All of this. 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:14.480 So I think I want to start is just with 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:18.119 kind of my story and through that you can jump 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:21.600 in and we can glean out tips and tricks for 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:26.240 people and all the Bible memory hacks. But this is 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:32.960 basically just a testimony of Bible memorization. So one of 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.560 the things I want to start with, and this kind 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:39.720 of ties into helping your kids scripture. I want to 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:41.800 talk about some of the things that my dad did 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:46.520 great to help me because I did have a really 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:52.679 good Bible memory foundation. I wasn't in a Wannas, but 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:54.800 I know that that's a really good kids program. But 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.800 we listens to a lot of different Bible versus set 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:02.960 to song. Did you ever listen to or know about 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:08.840 the GT and the Halo Express Music. No, they are great, 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:14.840 and but they were cute little audio dramas. But each 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.280 story had maybe like a dozen songs that were just 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.280 forbade and Bible Versus set to music, and there were 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:25.199 maybe like six or eight episodes, And so by the 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.879 time you learn all of those, I mean, that's a 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:32.280 couple hundred Bible versus right there. So Bible Versus set 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.000 to song, I think is great. I think we all 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.560 need to get over this hang up that some of 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:42.440 these tips and tricks are childish. They work for kids, 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.400 but that doesn't mean that as older people we shouldn't 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:49.920 use them as well. So honestly, that's probably if we're 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.480 looking for tips and tricks. Trick number one the fallback 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.960 set it to music, just like we talked about these jingles, 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.119 right like, you're never not gonna know for release, but 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.359 also you know the words to that little song she 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:04.440 was singing to herself. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:08.000 Oh yeah, where is how many thirty five years later? 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.760 Yes, another really fun one. This isn't Bible memory, but 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:16.440 it just reminded me another fun music resource for kids. 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:21.480 Do you know about Beethoven's wigs? The CDs they're really cute. 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.760 It teaches kids classical music, but it sets it to 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:29.879 funny lyrics. And so it's called Beethoven's Wig because it 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.680 goes that one of the you know, their flagship song 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:36.280 is Beethoven's Wig is very big. 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.600 This is like the Little Einstein's before the Little Einstein's 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.320 got it, because that's what the Little Einstein is, the 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.600 same kind of thing where they set these songs to 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:48.800 you know, I mean I can't. 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:50.120 I could sing any. 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:54.800 Number of them to the Little Einstein's version. Okay, interesting, 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:55.399 I love that. 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.399 Yeah, So if you've got kids that you want to 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:02.399 introduce to classical music, you've got grandkids. Beethoven's Wigs super 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.639 super fun. Like I grew up with classical music and 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.080 playing an orchestra, and there are some songs that I 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.400 would recognize, but I wouldn't know their name or who 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:13.760 wrote them. If it worked for Beetho, It's Wig, which 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.440 I didn't listen to till I had kids, and they're 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:20.360 just hilarious. But anyway, that's an aside, but it illustrates 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:26.640 how setting something to music can help you memorize. What 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.520 I did with our kids is I would often take 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:34.720 songs that they already knew, so I know we set 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:39.159 something to the Darth Vader theme song. I'm trying to 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.040 think of a few others if i could remember off 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.000 the top of my head. We learned all of their 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:49.160 multiplication tables to song, and a lot of Bible verses 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:49.680 to song. 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:51.040 I love you. 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:53.399 I love that you mentioned that, though, because in our 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:57.639 last episode, I found myself thinking, I wonder if people 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.919 are thinking that memorizing Bible verse this is for kids, 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.040 because we kind of associate it with. 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.760 That, you know it like Awana, like the songs. 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:09.760 But yeah, I think it's important to just be like, hey, 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.679 don't be afraid to use what we would consider juvenile 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:18.480 tactics to memorize God's word. I mean, there's yeah, yes, 0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:19.200 it's important. 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:21.960 I love a quote from C. S. Lewis, and unfortunately 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.359 I need to paraphrase it, but it's something to the 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:29.080 effect of I'm now old enough to start reading fairy 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.880 tales again or something like that. That's yes, I like that, 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:37.520 And I feel like I'm kind of coming back around 0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:42.680 because I've been working on a lot of I'm doing 0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.280 a lot with like children's books for our store and 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.960 things like that, and I'm thinking about all these books 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:49.480 that I used to love to read to our kids, 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.040 to the point where like once I was talking to 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.200 my husband about it and got like teary eyed because 0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:58.920 reading to our kids was such a special experience, and 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.200 then realizing like I don't need to be a kid 0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:07.440 or to have a young kid to love Doctor Seuss right, 0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:11.280 Or when I had the flu and I just I 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.080 didn't want to listen to like a full audiobook, and 0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.560 I just wanted something comforting. I listened to an aa 0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:21.399 Milmi poem collection and it made me really happy, you know. 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.560 And so there's there's something to be said for coming 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:28.400 back to some of these things that yeah, maybe they 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:33.480 were even designed for kids, but they are effective a 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:37.639 be there fun, so why not, right, It's more fun 0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:39.560 to learn a Bible versus to the tune of the 0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:41.760 Darth Vader theme song than to just sit down and 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.359 try to force it into your head. So let's go 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:50.320 ahead and do it. So I had those things, and 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.040 we were also just a family where I knew that 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.760 Bible literacy was important, right, Like it was just something 0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.320 that was part of our dat day lives. I'm going 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.400 to go on a tiny bit of a tangent. I'm 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.720 sure you've heard me rants. Have you heard my NIV rant? 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:12.000 No you have not. Okay, No, this is truly and 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.840 it's going to sound like I'm just being petty. This 0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.560 is the biggest block. I have not been into Bible 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.000 memorization the last several years like I used to. In 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:25.840 around twenty twelve. The NIV the New International Version of 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.640 the Bible, which is what I grew up, like, all 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.639 of my pastors preached from it. All of the GT 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:32.919 songs I learned were from it. All the Bibles I 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:37.600 had growing up were from it. They changed it, so 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:41.840 the NIV that you by now is differently worded than 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:46.399 the NIV that I used to memorize, and it threw 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:50.239 me off so bad that I have not That is 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.000 one of the biggest reasons why I have not gone 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.960 back into memorizing huge chunks like I got to wear, 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.480 like I had over half of the entire Book of 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.880 Matthew me like I could just recite Matthew one through 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:08.280 seventeen or eighteen or so. And one of the reasons 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:12.280 why I don't do that kind of intense memorization anymore 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.600 is because I'm really mad about what they did, but 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.120 some of it also is that same phenomenon we talked 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.320 about with like nursery rhymes versus TikTok videos is now 0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.159 like our pastor preaches from the ESV, this podcast I 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:30.000 listen to uses the NASV. Like there's so many versions 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:33.960 now that there's not one version that's getting reinforced in 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.560 my head. And so when I think about a verse, 0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:40.000 I've got multiple versions of it in my head, and 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:44.920 it's harder to like, Okay, what's the actual real version, 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:49.880 Like when I do hymns at church, and sometimes I 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.440 will need to ask our pianists like play this for 0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.840 me once, because there's like three different versions of it 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.400 that it could be and they're all just like slightly 0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.440 different from each other. But you know, that's kind of 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.120 what happens, kind of like there's multiple versions of a 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.560 tall tale, right, And you know, I'm not saying the 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.160 Bible is a tall tale, but I think you get 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.280 what I'm saying. It has gotten to where instead of 0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.760 like every single time I hear John three sixteen, I'm 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.400 hearing these exact same words in this exact same order, 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.520 I'm hearing twenty different versions of it, and so it's 0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.959 hard to memorize when you've got that it is. 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:26.520 And it's interesting for me because of my input tendencies. 0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:31.480 I love multiple versions and I look at, you know, 0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.520 the Greek and the Hebrew to kind of see what 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:34.160 is the root word. 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.160 And I understand why they revise things. 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.440 I think they have a better understanding of what the 0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.520 original Greek or Hebrew meant. 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.760 And that's good. But when it comes to scripture memory, 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:45.240 I'm with you. 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:48.320 I have a very hard time because when I go 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.240 back and I didn't realize. I don't think that they 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:55.000 changed it in whenever that was twenty twelve, but I 0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:55.720 did realize. 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.280 I'm like, where did my version go? What version did 0:29:58.280 --> 0:29:59.040 I memorize it in? 0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.320 Was it the re because that's what I grew up 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.000 with in the Methodist Church was revised standard, and then 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.200 I started going non denominational and it was an IV. 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:10.720 I think I memorized an IV. But you're right, because 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:11.320 I remember. 0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:15.200 That solves a mystery for me because what throws me 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.479 off is I had already memorized it. So when you 0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.960 have already memorized something, it should be easier to re 0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:28.160 memorize it, unless they throw a wrench shit. I think 0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.400 that has been like an unknown block for me. 0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.400 Yes, okay, So thank you for saying that, because I 0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.080 truly did think that it was eighty five percent of 0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.320 me being petty and being like, well you changed my 0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:40.960 versions to No, it's not like a. 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:42.000 Vendetta that you have. 0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.840 I think it's just a I put all this time 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.760 and effort into memorizing this. Now when I go back 0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.480 and re memorize it, it's different. And so I'm going 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.760 to have to start from scratch because I can't fall 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:54.960 into that da da da da da da da da 0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.560 like rhythm of memorizing because then you get to the 0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:02.480 word that sticks and it makes it difficult. Very interesting, 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.120 that solves a mystery for me. 0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:09.120 Well good, I'm so glad that we got to overcome 0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.280 some of our blocks today, which hopefully this is going 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.320 to do for a lot of people. 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.240 The other thing, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I 0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.920 want to go back to you, having memorized like half 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.560 of the Book of Matthew. What is your process? How 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.200 did you get like what did that look like? Because 0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.160 that is fascinating to me. 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:32.280 Yeah. So it started with something that I had in 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.200 my teens. I was part of the Bible Quiz team, 0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:41.000 which again used the NIV. And for anybody whose children 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:45.240 have access to Bible Quizzing, I really highly recommend it. 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.640 And if you're an adult and you're not going to 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.000 be on a Bible Quiz competitive team, I can give 0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.440 you some of the tips and tricks. But the year 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.160 that I was most involved in the Bible Quiz team, 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.200 it was the Book of Matthew and so I was 0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.360 already very familiar with it as an adult from my 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:05.200 experience doing it for Bible Quiz. So let me tell 0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:07.000 you about Bible quizzing and then I'll tell you about 0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.480 how I extrapolated that to memorize it as an adult. 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.160 The thing that I loved about Bible Quiz was have 0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.360 you ever done anything like that? Or do you know 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:16.320 about Bible quizzing? 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:16.760 No? 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:18.640 I know you did it with your kids, but I 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:20.480 don't even know exactly what it is. 0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:25.080 Yeah, So picture something kind of like academic to cathlon. 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.120 We're like, you get a team, you all learn the 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.240 same material, and then you go and compete against other 0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:33.440 teams to see who knows the material best. And so 0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.240 it was, here's a bunch of teenagers who are all 0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:40.000 studying the Book of Matthew, and so like the first 0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.920 meet or tournament or whatever they call it, it might 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.560 be like Matthew one through five, and then the next 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:48.680 one might be like Matthew five through ten, with a 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.000 few questions about Matthew one through five, and so over 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.120 the course of a school year, you're working your way 0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.320 through the entire book of Matthew. Cool. That's how it 0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:00.360 goes and the way it was set up. And I 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.480 don't know if this is more to do with the 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.440 way Bible quiz is set up, or just the way 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.840 our coach is taught it, or probably if I had 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.520 to guess it, some of both. It allowed me to 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:17.000 get really good at looking at a passage and asking myself, Okay, 0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:22.720 how many questions can I make from this? Because it's 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:27.160 never the questions I ask are never about interpretation. It's 0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:29.800 never like when Jesus says, blessed are the pure in heart? 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.400 Who do you think he's talking about? It would be like, 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.880 why are the pure and heart blessed? And you would say, 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.480 because there's is a kingdom of heaven, right, And so 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.920 it's always if it's not there written in the text, 0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:44.200 it is not part of the answer. In the way 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:48.240 that it's taught. So it's almost like sat reading comprehension 0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.960 where you just learn the answer is always there, or. 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.160 Battle of the Books. It reminds me of Battle of 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:53.640 the Books. 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.320 Yeah, and the answer is always there, you just need 0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.160 to access it. So let me pull up I'm going 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.440 to pull up seventeen since we're recording this going into 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:07.240 Good Friday, and I love some of Jesus's discourse. So 0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:12.720 this is Jesus's prayer and John seventeen using the nal NIV. 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.719 And so I will show you the way that if 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:20.759 I were reading this for a Bible quizzing, what I 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.439 would be asking myself after Jesus said this he looked 0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:28.000 toward heaven and prayed, I would literally say, where did 0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:31.160 Jesus look he looked to heaven? And then I would say, 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.960 what did Jesus do he prayed? And then I would say, 0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.320 when did Jesus look toward heaven and pray after he 0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.400 said this? And so basically, you take one verse at 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.880 a time and you ask yourself, how many reading comprehension 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:51.360 questions can I create from this verse? So, for example, 0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:55.080 verse ten, Jesus is praying and he says, all I 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.360 have is yours and all you have is mind, and 0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.800 glory has come to me through them. So my questions 0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:06.920 would be, what is Jesus's okay? All I have speaking 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:11.280 of God the Father? And then what has come to Jesus? 0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:15.120 Glory has come to Jesus? How has glory come to Jesus? 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.040 Glory has come to me through them? So you read 0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.960 the verse and then you just go through how many 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.960 of those questions can you come up with? And so 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.480 basically I was doing it as a teen to be 0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.880 ready for any question that they might ask in a competition. 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.600 But what I was truly doing was making sure that 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.360 I was looking at the verse from every single side 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:44.720 an angle. And so that was the Bible quiz method 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.560 and way to do that. And I think it's extremely 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:53.240 helpful even if you're not doing it for a competitive setting, 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.840 to just if you get to where you really just 0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.680 want to or need to slow down your Bible reading, 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:00.799 ask so what does this per se? 0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:02.120 What does this per se? 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.640 And it might sound a little moundane. Let's take Genesis 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:10.160 one one. What did God create the heavens and the earth? 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:14.200 When did God create it in the beginning? Who created 0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.360 the heavens and the earth. God created the heavens and 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.840 the earth. So that's right there. That's three different ways 0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:23.400 of looking at that verse. And maybe in the process 0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:26.319 of doing that, something is going to jump out to you. Yeah, 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.000 oh wow, in the beginning that like that's kind of 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.759 profound as opposed to just in the beginning God created 0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.200 you know, I've known that forever. Or maybe it's He 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.160 created the heaven and the earth, right, Like, you can 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.919 even practice putting the emphasis on different words to see 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:44.520 like in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.160 Or in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.360 Or in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, right, Like, 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.239 there's different different ways. So again I go back to 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:57.520 kind of my tactile way of thinking and learning, and 0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:00.279 you're really just manipulating the verse from his as many 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:01.279 angles as you can. 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.560 That is so cool. So how did you take that 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:22.920 strategy and extrapolate it to scripture memory, like actually memorizing 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.719 one verse after another, because that's what I would have 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.080 no problem coming up with the questions, but doing the 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.880 actual memory work is just sounds really daunting. 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:37.320 The biggest thing I would say is you need to 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:41.480 identify your blocks and figure out how to get over them. 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.839 I had a couple of blocks as an adult going 0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.440 back into memorizing. Right now, my biggest block is this 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:51.680 whole thing about the NIV changing, And theoretically, what I 0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.760 know I need to do is just get the version 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:58.719 that I'm used to and still learn from that. I'm 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.920 not going to try to do all the new stuff. 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:06.400 And honestly, this is gonna sound so over dramatic. I 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.160 need to forgive the NIV for throwing this huge wrench 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.400 in what was such a huge part of my Bible 0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:15.719 study for the majority of my life, because it really 0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.160 did throw me off, and there's part of me that 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.080 I think has been holding on to. Well, if I 0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.960 just stopped memorizing in description, then won't they be sorry? No, 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.399 they don't know who I am and they don't care 0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.879 you know so. But one of the blocks I had 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:34.160 it as an adult getting back into memorizing is the 0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:38.320 act of memorizing would get mentally so taxing that it 0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:45.400 could trigger like a depressive episode, and I needed to 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.600 look at it as like, basically I saw it as 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.880 a spiritual attack. It was when I get into really 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:57.200 intense Bible memorization, I get this spiritual attack and get 0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.160 really depressed. I think if I were to go back 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:03.400 and coach myself now, I would actually make myself question that. 0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.640 I would say, are you truly under spiritual attack or 0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:10.640 are you just expecting because of coincidence that a couple 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:15.120 times you have memory scripture and have had depressive episodes 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:19.120 after that? Have you made a false association that now 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.120 is becoming a self fulfilling prophecy? 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:25.480 Or is there a physiological thing that happens you know 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:30.440 something about like you know how bright lights activate seizures, 0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.080 you know, can induce the seizure. What if something about 0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:38.680 firing your brain in that space constantly might trigger something? 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:43.040 Or I know, for me, if I focus on one 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.480 thing for more than several hours, like really intense focus, 0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:52.000 I get a sore throat. Like physiologically that probably shouldn't happen. 0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.279 I mean, maybe I'm clenching or something. Who knows, but 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.000 you know, so, yeah, there's all kinds of reasons it 0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:01.040 could be. But at the time, what I chose to 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:04.560 do was to say, even if it makes me feel depressed, 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.640 this is important enough that I'm gonna do it. I 0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:10.080 think now I would also go ahead and question the 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:13.000 premise and be like, is this really like is it 0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:16.320 a foregone conclusion that memorizing the Bible makes. 0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.200 Feel depressed or or not? 0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:20.280 But that was that was one of the big blocks. 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.400 The second block was a little more practical, and it 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:29.360 was I by that point I had memorized chap like 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:34.680 a chapter of multiple passages of Scripture. I had ninety 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.520 percent memorized some of the shorter epistles like I could. 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.759 I could have recited them with eighty to ninety percent accuracy. 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.239 When you get to something as long as what I 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:48.879 was doing, it was it's really hard to mentally say, Okay, 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.640 I'm gonna start at Matthew one one and just lying 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:53.000 a bed at night, I'm going to see how far 0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:56.520 I can go, you know. But it's also really good 0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:00.399 mental training to do that. And so what I would 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.279 do is at night, before bed and in the morning 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.719 when I woke up, I would try to like pick 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.560 a place to start and see how far I could 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:16.360 go without getting distracted. And the reason why I finally 0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:20.840 quit and didn't go beyond Matthew seventeen or eighteen was 0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.759 I got to where to progress. I really did need 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.200 somebody to sit and listen to me recite the whole thing, 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.520 like with the Bible in front of them, and A 0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:33.880 that's a lot to ask of somebody, and B I 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.800 didn't have the voice capacity to like just recite that 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:41.960 much without getting worse. Yeah, so that's how's But basically 0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.759 it was it was a very similar process to what 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.799 I did for Bible quiz, in that I would read 0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:53.800 a verse and kind of just examine that versu mentally 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:57.719 from as many angles as I could until like that 0:41:57.960 --> 0:41:59.600 versus in my head, and then I would go to 0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:03.000 the next first. So it was like, okay, read verse 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.960 one enough to yourself that you can do that, and 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.600 then read verse two enough to yourself three you can 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.880 get that. Next step is put verse one and two together, 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.960 you know what I mean, and then keep going. Another 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.840 tip that worked well for me is, and this is 0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:22.360 another reason why just finding a pirated copy of the 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.840 old NIV and just printing it off would be harder. 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.920 Is the way I memorize is I see on the 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:33.600 page where I'm at, and so it would be harder 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.919 for me to memorize with like here's this Bible here, 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.120 and here's this Bible here, because even if it's the 0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:42.680 same words, there are different parts of the page, right. 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:42.840 So. 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.840 You're definitely visually learning. 0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:53.160 Yes, so I'm almost like picturing myself in the location 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:57.239 on the page that I am trying to recite from. 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.640 And so then once you get to where you can 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.160 put two or three verses together, then you just go 0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.640 to the next chunk. And so I would learn it 0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:11.960 chunks at a time, and then not until then when 0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:13.520 I try to put the chunks together. 0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:15.920 So you try and just build it like a train 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.560 where you're doing one you do a chunk, and then 0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.520 you do another chunk, and then you kind of put 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.360 them together. That that definitely is a good tip and 0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:25.520 seems more doable. 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:30.400 Yeah, and then another block. And this wouldn't I wouldn't 0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:33.000 even call a mental block. This is just a logistical block. 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:37.600 Is eventually, if you don't keep reciting something to yourself 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:41.440 that you've memorized, you don't retain it verbatim. And so 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:44.759 it's one thing to be like, Okay, I think the 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.560 very first book of the Bible I memorized was Philippians, 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.360 and I was like, okay, that was cool. But unless 0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.800 I say it to myself like once a week, or something. 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.680 I'm not gonna not going to remember all of it, 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.759 And so then it turns into how do I this, Like, Okay, 0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.479 I memorized Philippians and now I want to memorize First Peter. 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.919 Does that mean I need to work on First Peter 0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.120 ninety percent of the time and ten percent of the 0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:13.359 time refresh on Philippians. So I had to get over 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.480 this idea of once I memorize it, it needs to 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:17.840 stay memorized in my head for it to be effective. 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.160 Because the act of memorizing it, even though I still 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:24.960 do not have the Book of Philippians memorized, was a benefit, 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.279 do you know what I mean? So I could see 0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:30.319 that being another hang up. People have another hang up. 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:32.360 I could see people getting into is how do I 0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.120 even know what to start with? Why why Philippians are 0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:37.480 not Galatians? Are you saying that Philippians is better than 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:41.320 Galatians or things like that? So, yeah, lots of things 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.320 like that, And you're mind, what would be some of 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:44.440 the blocks that you think. 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:45.360 You would bet up against. 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.000 I think I have a tendency to look at to 0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:52.000 have like overwhelmed paralysis, and so I would just be 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:55.160 like I would tell myself kind of like you told 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:59.080 yourself get I get depressive episodes when I do scripture. 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.400 I would tell myself, I'm not really that good at 0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.120 memorizing things. I mean I said that earlier. I mean 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:07.120 that's a label, that's like something. I'm a story I'm 0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:10.080 telling myself about myself. You know what, Maybe I'm not 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.719 that bad at memorizing things. Maybe I just need to 0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:18.480 go try it. And so I think self fulfilling limitations 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.160 and just saying that's too big, that's too much, There's 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:23.560 no way I'll be able to do that. I'm not 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:26.919 good at memorizing things, is what would stand in my way. 0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.319 I think one of the biggest blocks that a lot 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.200 of people are going to come across is that block 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:36.360 of well, i'm too old, right, Like, I was fortunate 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:40.320 to have a strong basis for memorization when I was 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.640 a kid. So going back to the NIV that I'm 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.520 used to, even if it's a passage that I hadn't 0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:49.040 actively memorized when I was a teen, for example, I'm 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.040 familiar enough with it that it would be easier for 0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:53.960 me to memorize that than it would be for me 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:58.680 to memorize like a passage of Shakespeare or something, do 0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:02.080 you know what I mean? It's in my head and 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:03.080 in my brain. 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:07.200 And it makes sense because the context, the ideas are 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:09.000 all very familiar. Mm hm. 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:14.160 However, I really feel like we are called to be 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:19.480 faithful with what we've been given my brain. Probably, and 0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:22.400 maybe this is a cop out, and maybe this is 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.600 not true. I don't know that my brain is designed 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.680 to memorize eighteen chapters of the Bible anymore. 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:29.520 It might not be. 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:34.080 But that doesn't mean that I am off the hook 0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:37.960 from ever being I don't want to say supposed to. 0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.640 But it doesn't mean that God doesn't expect me to 0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.560 ever memory scripturegen just because I don't have the brain 0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.359 capacity I might have had in my twenties, I still 0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:50.880 have some brain capacity, right Like I can still remember 0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:52.960 your name, I still remember what you look like. I 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.000 remember the name of your kids. I mean, obviously I 0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:59.440 have some working memory. And obviously, again, like the more 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:03.040 you use your brain, the better it gets it and 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.040 I find the mental benefits. I mean, this could be 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:10.720 its own total episode, the mental benefits of memorizing scripture 0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.879 in addition to just the spiritual benefits. I mean, I'm 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.480 sure that would take an entire episode to list out 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:23.000 just the focus that you get and this idea of neuroplasticity. Yeah, 0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:27.560 memorizing your first chapter of the Bible is going to 0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:30.160 be harder than memorizing your tenth chapter of the Bible 0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:33.160 because your brain isn't used to that. And don't bite 0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:34.600 off more than you can chew. If I were to 0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:36.760 get back into it, I would probably start with a paragraph. 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:41.200 For me, a paragraph makes the most sense because it's 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.680 not something I could do in just like a single sitting, 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:47.600 like you know, John three sixteen or something like that. 0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:51.360 But it's also not something that is so daunting that 0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:56.719 I would never complete it. Right, So figure out where 0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:01.800 is your brain capacity? What is your opacity for memorizing something? 0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.719 And then this other question like you talked about, of 0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:09.800 decision or overwhelm, just ask God to bring to mind 0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:13.600 what is best and to me it. And this sounds 0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.360 really morbid, and you and I have talked before about 0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:21.000 this most likely over the top, probably not super healthy 0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:25.359 fixation with like being martyred or suffering for my faith. 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.839 But one of the questions I would ask is, Hey, 0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:30.600 if I was in prison for being a Christian and 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:33.640 had no Bible. What passage would I have wished I 0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:38.040 had memorized, you know? And if you strip out maybe 0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:41.120 the fear mongering behind that, but just ask it kind 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:44.239 of without a ton of emotion attached to it, that 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.600 might not be a bad place to start, Like do 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.279 you have if if you and I both committed to 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:53.360 memorizing a passage of scripture, do you have one that 0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.160 pops to the forefront of your mind. 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.920 I don't have an actual scripture. I can take a 0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:00.960 stab at it. But before that, I want to make 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:03.880 a note. I didn't realize until you started, until you 0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.160 said that that my little rant at the beginning about 0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.000 you know, the grid's going to fail, or if you're 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:10.960 in prison for your faith and don't have a Bible 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:15.279 that idea came from. I know there's a scene in 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:18.240 one of your North Korea books, and I don't remember 0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:21.400 the details, but I think the person doesn't have a 0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:26.520 Bible and they're either trying to remember or they're glad 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:29.640 that they remembered. But that is the image I have 0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:31.600 in my mind, is the same image that I had 0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:35.840 when I was reading about that person imprisoned. That makes 0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:39.120 me think exactly that if I were in prison, yes, 0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:41.520 and I didn't have a Bible, and I didn't have 0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:44.200 an electronic way of looking up things. What would I 0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:48.360 want to know? And that is that is such a 0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.440 good question. It would definitely be something in the New Testament. 0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:55.480 I'm thinking, although I've like fallen in love with the 0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:59.880 psalms through doing the songs every week, I love them, 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.839 so I would probably say I would I'll pick one 0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:06.920 psalm and it will be a psalm that is one 0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:09.840 of the ones where David is just being. 0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:11.560 Persecuted and. 0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:16.600 Reflecting on God's greatness, which I think Psalm fifty six 0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:19.520 was the one that I most recently recorded, and it 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:22.440 was in the line of that, and so you know, 0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:25.160 something like that. But I think I would also want 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:27.320 something from the New Testament, and I don't know what 0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:29.919 that would be. I'm trying to do you have any 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:31.360 I don't think I that. 0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:35.320 My next would be from Romans eight for New Testament. 0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:38.600 There are lots of beautiful parts in that, but it's 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:42.160 some one where more than conquerors, it's also the neither 0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:45.160 height nor depths, you know, nor anything else can separate 0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:46.920 us from the love of Christ. There's a lot of 0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:50.800 beautiful encouragement in Romans eight. So I think New Testament, 0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:54.040 I think pretty much hands down Romans eight. I would 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.160 love to brush up on the Sermon of the Mountain, 0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:58.680 have a little that more access to that as well, 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:05.200 And then Old Testament Psalm ninety one jumps way up 0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:09.279 in the forefront, just a beautiful prayer of protection. You 0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:11.800 sent me a prayer based on Psalm ninety one forever 0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:13.799 ago that meant the world to me. Do you even 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:14.360 remember that? 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:15.120 No? 0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:15.880 I don't. 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.920 You think it was like the very first prayer text 0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:21.400 that you ever sent me. 0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:22.280 I don't remember. 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:27.040 And it was also the basis for a prayer I 0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:29.359 wrote before I wrote The Beloved Daughter, my first North 0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:33.080 Korean novel. I wrote out a prayer that I prayed 0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:35.640 every day before I started writing, and it was based 0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:38.600 off of Psalm ninety one. Wow. And honestly, I mean 0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:41.160 tons of Isaiah. If I if I had to pick 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.759 like Isaiah forty through the end of Isaiah, I would 0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.719 learn to have axs so for me to pick. But yeah, 0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:49.080 if I were to just jump in own, I would 0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.920 do like the last section of Romans eight is where 0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:52.560 I would start. 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.440 I would also want because I'm assuming I might be 0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:58.520 in prison with other people, and I will definitely have 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:02.400 prison guards like Paul. I would want access to, word 0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:06.360 for word a nutshell of the Gospel. Mm hmmm, so 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:09.640 that I could like actually present it word for word. 0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:11.840 That would be cool, or at least look back on 0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:14.879 that mentally, so that I'm expressing it in a way 0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:15.840 that's biblical. 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:17.400 And yeah, I like that. 0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:21.680 Well, actually, that's a perfect segue to a plug for 0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:25.680 our Christian True Crime Junkies podcast, because we recently did 0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.800 the entire story of Stephen the First Martyr and his 0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:32.440 entire sermon to the people persecuting him. 0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:33.279 So for people who. 0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:37.279 Haven't checked out are Christian True Crime Junkies, you can 0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:40.000 listen to that if you're not into crime and you've 0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:43.040 avoided it for that reason. We have a recent episode 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.759 about Steven, which is all right from the Bible. So 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:51.640 with that, let's go ahead and just plan on chatting 0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:55.320 more about Bible memorization next time as well. I have 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:59.040 an entire part of my testimony is losing the ability 0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:03.200 to memorize script and having zero recall. Oh wow, there 0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:05.040 were a couple of years I if you had asked 0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:07.640 me John three sixteen, I would have been like, oh, yeah, 0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:11.080 I think I learned that one once. So there's yeah, 0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:15.160 there's more to that, and then more just practical tips 0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:19.800 and tricks for people interested in Bible memorization. Should you 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:21.839 and I are we going to do an accountability thing? 0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:26.200 Are we gonna come back next week with a passage memorize? Oh? 0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:27.479 Let's do it? Yes? 0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:28.239 What is it? 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:29.480 What are we going to memorize? 0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:33.080 Why don't we each just pick one and come to 0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:36.560 come and we'll make those our versus the day. I'll 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:39.279 recite mind tiero and you can you recite yours to me? 0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:42.760 Okay, that'll be good. Don't let me forget I'm gonna. 0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:48.880 Yeah, we need to you need a hack to provide yourself. 0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:53.880 I need to start with just remembering to memorize scripture. 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:57.200 Just not even the memory of the scripture, just remembering 0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:57.960 to memorize it. 0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:03.000 Let me let me put a digital memo in my memory. 0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.640 Yeah, I'll be doomed when technology fails us. 0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:08.279 Don't say that. 0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:09.759 No, no, I'm not. 0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:11.240 I'm in good shape. 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.920 Well, I'm so glad we get to discuss this. Let's 0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:16.880 go ahead and closed for today, at least with our 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:19.520 blessing and men addiction. May the Lord open the eyes 0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:21.160 of your heart and fill you with wisdom in the 0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:24.480 inmost places. May the Glorious Father grant you a spirit 0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:26.880 of wisdom and our relation, so you may know Christ, 0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:29.920 who has become for us wisdom from God. On the 0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:32.239 areas of your life in need of guidance, May God 0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:34.799 grant you His wisdom and abundance, so that you will 0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:36.880 not lean on your own insight, but rely on the 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:41.280 full riches of complete understanding, which are yours in abundance through. 0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:45.280 Christ and our benediction comes from Psalm twenty nine, verse eleven. 0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:48.440 May we shout for joy over your salvation, and in 0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.759 the name of our God, set up our banners. May 0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:53.600 the Lord fulfill all your petitions. May the Lord give 0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:56.400 strength to his people. 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