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Speaker 1: Life Audio. Hello, Welcome to the Praying Christian Women Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am Alana here with Jamie. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well, how are you? God?

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Speaker 1: I am just really really excited about today's topic. I

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Speaker 1: always love meeting with you, but today's topic, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, I cannot wait to talk about this. That makes

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Speaker 2: me so happy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is a topic that's like, it's not revolutionary,

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Speaker 3: it's a very basic topic. But I love going back

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Speaker 3: to some of these basics because they're so important, and

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Speaker 3: sometimes we gloss over them for the you know, frillier more,

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Speaker 3: you know, obscure things. But this topic is yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I want to tell everybody what the topic is.

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Speaker 2: Are we going to leave?

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Speaker 1: No? No, let's let's drag it out for at least

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Speaker 1: another ten minutes, because they most certainly have not read

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Speaker 1: the episode title, so they.

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Speaker 2: Have no idea, no idea whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Talking with a friend yesterday and she asked how the

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Speaker 1: podcast was going, but she was really sweet about it.

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Speaker 1: And if I went in to be like snarky, I

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Speaker 1: could tell you in the mean way She's like, so

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Speaker 1: are you still podcasting about prayer? And truly it was

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Speaker 1: just kind of a like, hey, are you still doing

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Speaker 1: this thing that I remember at one point you said

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Speaker 1: you were doing. But it brought me back to when

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Speaker 1: you and I started this idea. It was like, how

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Speaker 1: much is there to say about prayer? It's like, prayer

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Speaker 1: is talking to God. It is important to do.

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Speaker 3: So I think we even had the conversation of, like, well,

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Speaker 3: when we eventually run out of topics, and you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe we'll switch gears and do it as something else.

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Speaker 3: Like I think it was a foregone conclusion that we

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Speaker 3: were eventually going to kind of run out of topics.

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Speaker 3: But here we are, what like over five hundred episodes, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm so thankful and I'm I love today

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Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about memorizing scripture. So recently

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Speaker 1: you and I have been talking just about practical ways

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Speaker 1: to add more Bible reading into our day to day lives,

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Speaker 1: which is a struggle that going into this new year,

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Speaker 1: you and I both confessed that we were having. And

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Speaker 1: so this is a tangent off of that, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to be spending some time to talk about scripture memory.

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Speaker 1: And the moment it popped into my head that we

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Speaker 1: were going to do an episode about this, I realized,

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Speaker 1: like Oh, I've been sitting on like the book in

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Speaker 1: my brain, like I have so much to say about this.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's exciting.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. So, because we're talking about scripture memory,

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Speaker 1: I went to think about things you remember from your childhood.

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Speaker 1: What is some just like jingle or something just so

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Speaker 1: random that you still remember super clearly from growing up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I remember this commercial and it was funny because

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Speaker 3: I was in the process of learning the song for

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Speaker 3: Elease on the piano and there was a McDonald's commercial

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Speaker 3: for Elease. Oh yeah it was, And I still remember

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Speaker 3: the words and the girls going she's singing along as

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Speaker 3: she's playing her piano recital, and she goes, then I

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Speaker 3: will have my chuckle at shake and cheeseburger and also

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Speaker 3: ones and also fries, and I'll eat all my fries

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Speaker 3: myself and not give any to my dumb brother, hands off,

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Speaker 3: all mine, all mine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it really shows I think that every single

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Speaker 1: one of us can go back and remember some kind

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Speaker 1: of jingle or some kind of playground ditty or for me,

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Speaker 1: it was all the jump rope songs.

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Speaker 2: I loved that.

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Speaker 3: The double Dutch and all the difference and the Miss

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Speaker 3: Mary Max the hand.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all of those ages live in your head forever,

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Speaker 1: which is what we're talking about. So like for me,

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Speaker 1: it was always like bubblegum commercials. For some reason, those

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Speaker 1: were jingles that always stood out the most. And so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of this idea of if the people who

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Speaker 1: made the bubblegum commercials know how to get something in

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Speaker 1: your head that you remember it forty years later, we

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Speaker 1: could probably find a way that we can remember a

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Speaker 1: Bible verse. Right.

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Speaker 2: I would get to do that, I surely hope.

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Speaker 1: So another thing, memory wise, it just flips in my brain.

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Speaker 1: I read so much to the kids that there are

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Speaker 1: certain children books that I could either just sit down

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, as an aside, what's so funny?

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Speaker 3: So Baby Beluga was a song, yes, and it was

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Speaker 3: by Raffi. It was also we had the like board

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Speaker 3: book of Baby Beluga that was our oldest favorite book

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Speaker 3: and like it was just kind of his theme song.

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Speaker 3: And I recently, like, after having no ever known this before,

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Speaker 3: someone sent me a song.

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Speaker 2: It's called the Hockey Song by Raffi.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and our kids all play hockey, and I

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Speaker 3: can't believe that I never knew that the author of

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Speaker 3: Baby Yuga also had a hockey song.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that's fun, that's just fun. Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that there is something beautiful about having

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Speaker 1: shared collective memories. It's something that I feel a little

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Speaker 1: sad for our kids generation. I think they have it

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Speaker 1: TikTok and YouTube, it can be anything, right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: heard the funnest little Kids song, but I'm guaranteed that

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Speaker 1: most little kids are never going to know it, and

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Speaker 1: my grandkids will never know unless I teach it to them.

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Speaker 1: But it was like it was an Internet sensation for

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Speaker 1: all of a week. Do you know the Oh no,

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Speaker 1: now it's out of my brain. I'm gonna need to

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Speaker 1: run upstairs and ask my son. Those little funny salamanders

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Speaker 1: what are they called? The axe lottles?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Those are I love accel Lottles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is an axe Lottle preschool song which is

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Speaker 1: know that so cute and so catchy. But if I

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Speaker 1: And when you and I were younger, there was a

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Speaker 1: little more of that, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, there were fewer collective songs, like everything was. Things

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Speaker 2: It is sad, it is.

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Speaker 1: But everybody with preschool or or everybody who thinks that

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Speaker 1: axel Lottles are super cute and adorable, just do yourself

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Speaker 1: a favor and look up the axl Lottle song. You

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Speaker 2: I'm doing it all right.

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Speaker 1: Well while people have you know, paused us to go

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Speaker 1: listen to the axl Lottle song and then come back,

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Speaker 1: do you have a verse of the day for us

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 3: This is a verse about God's word from Deuteronomy six,

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Speaker 3: verses six through nine. These commandments that I give you

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Speaker 3: today are to be on your hearts, Impress them on

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Speaker 3: your children, Talk about them when you sit at home

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Speaker 3: and when you walk along the road, when you lie down,

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Speaker 3: and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on

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Speaker 3: your hands, and bind them on your foreheads. Write them

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Speaker 3: on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.

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Speaker 1: I love this one, and I didn't even realize. There's

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Speaker 1: a whole other aspect to this topic that I wasn't

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Speaker 1: even planning to talk about, and that is how to

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Speaker 1: help your children learn how to memorize Bible verses. Because

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Speaker 1: our kids were in a Wana, which I think is

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Speaker 1: a great program for scripture memory, but we would also

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Speaker 1: memorize longer passages. This is one of the first longer

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Speaker 1: passages that I talked to the kids, and a few

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Speaker 1: of the tips I used we did it real sing songy,

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Speaker 1: when you lie down, and when you stand up. Because

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Speaker 1: it's way easier to learn a song than it is

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Speaker 1: to learn a poem. For example, right. How many of

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Speaker 1: and didn't work to memorize versus how many poems do

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Speaker 1: you have memorize it? You didn't like work to memorize, right, right,

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Speaker 1: And so there was that. We combined it with some

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll add that to the list. This might

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Speaker 1: turn into a mini series about scripture memorization, but no,

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Speaker 1: I love that passage. I think it's a beautiful reminder

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Speaker 1: of the importance of imparting scripture to your chill specifically, well,

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Speaker 1: before we dive into the meat, you want to open

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Speaker 1: us up in prayer, Yes I will.

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Speaker 3: Lord, We thank you for your word, and just pray

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Speaker 3: that this time would just be informative and that it

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Speaker 3: and excitement for memorizing scripture. It can sound like a

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Speaker 3: very dry academic thing, but Lord, we love it. We

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Speaker 3: hear word is a lamp to our feet, a light

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Speaker 3: to our path is it is everything, And we just

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Speaker 3: pray that you would help us just to continue to

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Speaker 2: In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out the best place to start,

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Speaker 1: because so much of what I want to share is

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Speaker 1: really more of a testimony of my journey with Bible memory,

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Speaker 1: and through that there will be lots of tips and

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Speaker 1: let's just all get on the exact same page. Why

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Speaker 1: is this even important? Why are we talking about it?

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Speaker 1: How would you answer a cynic who says, and you

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Speaker 1: What's point of memorizing scripture? When I could just look

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Speaker 1: it up on my phone? Right? Like? What's the point

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Speaker 1: of memorizing the Times table now that I could just

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Speaker 1: ask Siri to do it for me? Is what I'm

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Speaker 1: sure some elementary kids are asking their teachers.

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Speaker 3: Oh, don't get me started. So I have very strong

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Speaker 3: So we had a conversation. I and our middle kid

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Speaker 3: had a very lengthy conversation on this about math. It

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Speaker 3: was the very same thing because there's a certain type

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Speaker 3: of math and statistics that you need to know the

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Speaker 3: formula for, but there's also a whole training on how

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Speaker 3: to use your calculator to find the same answer, and

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Speaker 3: they're learning both. He was trying to convince me that

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Speaker 3: his teacher said they only need to know the calculator version,

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Speaker 3: and I just I was like, no, that's not true.

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Speaker 3: His worksheet actually clearly in the instructions said that they

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Speaker 2: So you know, I was right.

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Speaker 3: But when we talked about it, I told him it's yes,

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Speaker 3: it's important to be able to use the tools that

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Speaker 3: we've been given, and this is for both math and scripture.

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Speaker 2: Memory. Yes, use the tools. I have embraced AI.

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Speaker 1: super fun. Like I grew up with classical music and

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Speaker 1: playing an orchestra, and there are some songs that I

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Speaker 1: would recognize, but I wouldn't know their name or who

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Speaker 1: wrote them. If it worked for Beetho, It's Wig, which

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Speaker 1: I didn't listen to till I had kids, and they're

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Speaker 1: just hilarious. But anyway, that's an aside, but it illustrates

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Speaker 1: how setting something to music can help you memorize. What

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Speaker 1: I did with our kids is I would often take

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Speaker 1: songs that they already knew, so I know we set

446
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Speaker 1: something to the Darth Vader theme song. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think of a few others if i could remember off

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Speaker 1: the top of my head. We learned all of their

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Speaker 1: multiplication tables to song, and a lot of Bible verses

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Speaker 1: to song.

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Speaker 2: I love you.

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Speaker 3: I love that you mentioned that, though, because in our

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Speaker 3: last episode, I found myself thinking, I wonder if people

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Speaker 3: are thinking that memorizing Bible verse this is for kids,

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Speaker 3: because we kind of associate it with.

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Speaker 2: That, you know it like Awana, like the songs.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's important to just be like, hey,

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Speaker 3: don't be afraid to use what we would consider juvenile

459
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Speaker 3: tactics to memorize God's word. I mean, there's yeah, yes,

460
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Speaker 3: it's important.

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Speaker 1: I love a quote from C. S. Lewis, and unfortunately

462
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Speaker 1: I need to paraphrase it, but it's something to the

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Speaker 1: effect of I'm now old enough to start reading fairy

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Speaker 1: tales again or something like that. That's yes, I like that,

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm kind of coming back around

466
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Speaker 1: because I've been working on a lot of I'm doing

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Speaker 1: a lot with like children's books for our store and

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Speaker 1: things like that, and I'm thinking about all these books

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Speaker 1: that I used to love to read to our kids,

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Speaker 1: to the point where like once I was talking to

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Speaker 1: my husband about it and got like teary eyed because

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Speaker 1: reading to our kids was such a special experience, and

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Speaker 1: then realizing like I don't need to be a kid

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Speaker 1: or to have a young kid to love Doctor Seuss right,

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Speaker 1: Or when I had the flu and I just I

476
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Speaker 1: didn't want to listen to like a full audiobook, and

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Speaker 1: I just wanted something comforting. I listened to an aa

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Speaker 1: Milmi poem collection and it made me really happy, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so there's there's something to be said for coming

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Speaker 1: back to some of these things that yeah, maybe they

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Speaker 1: were even designed for kids, but they are effective a

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Speaker 1: be there fun, so why not, right, It's more fun

483
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Speaker 1: to learn a Bible versus to the tune of the

484
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Speaker 1: Darth Vader theme song than to just sit down and

485
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Speaker 1: try to force it into your head. So let's go

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Speaker 1: ahead and do it. So I had those things, and

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Speaker 1: we were also just a family where I knew that

488
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Speaker 1: Bible literacy was important, right, Like it was just something

489
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Speaker 1: that was part of our dat day lives. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go on a tiny bit of a tangent. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've heard me rants. Have you heard my NIV rant?

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Speaker 1: No you have not. Okay, No, this is truly and

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Speaker 1: it's going to sound like I'm just being petty. This

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Speaker 1: is the biggest block. I have not been into Bible

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Speaker 1: memorization the last several years like I used to. In

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Speaker 1: around twenty twelve. The NIV the New International Version of

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Speaker 1: the Bible, which is what I grew up, like, all

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Speaker 1: of my pastors preached from it. All of the GT

499
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Speaker 1: songs I learned were from it. All the Bibles I

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Speaker 1: had growing up were from it. They changed it, so

501
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Speaker 1: the NIV that you by now is differently worded than

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Speaker 1: the NIV that I used to memorize, and it threw

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Speaker 1: me off so bad that I have not That is

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest reasons why I have not gone

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Speaker 1: back into memorizing huge chunks like I got to wear,

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Speaker 1: like I had over half of the entire Book of

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Speaker 1: Matthew me like I could just recite Matthew one through

508
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Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen or so. And one of the reasons

509
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Speaker 1: why I don't do that kind of intense memorization anymore

510
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Speaker 1: is because I'm really mad about what they did, but

511
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Speaker 1: some of it also is that same phenomenon we talked

512
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Speaker 1: about with like nursery rhymes versus TikTok videos is now

513
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: like our pastor preaches from the ESV, this podcast I

514
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: listen to uses the NASV. Like there's so many versions

515
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Speaker 1: now that there's not one version that's getting reinforced in

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Speaker 1: my head. And so when I think about a verse,

517
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Speaker 1: I've got multiple versions of it in my head, and

518
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Speaker 1: it's harder to like, Okay, what's the actual real version,

519
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Speaker 1: Like when I do hymns at church, and sometimes I

520
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Speaker 1: will need to ask our pianists like play this for

521
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Speaker 1: me once, because there's like three different versions of it

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Speaker 1: that it could be and they're all just like slightly

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Speaker 1: different from each other. But you know, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what happens, kind of like there's multiple versions of a

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Speaker 1: tall tale, right, And you know, I'm not saying the

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Speaker 1: Bible is a tall tale, but I think you get

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It has gotten to where instead of

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Speaker 1: like every single time I hear John three sixteen, I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing these exact same words in this exact same order,

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing twenty different versions of it, and so it's

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Speaker 1: hard to memorize when you've got that it is.

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting for me because of my input tendencies.

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Speaker 3: I love multiple versions and I look at, you know,

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Speaker 3: the Greek and the Hebrew to kind of see what

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Speaker 3: is the root word.

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Speaker 2: And I understand why they revise things.

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Speaker 3: I think they have a better understanding of what the

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Speaker 3: original Greek or Hebrew meant.

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Speaker 2: And that's good. But when it comes to scripture memory,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I have a very hard time because when I go

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Speaker 3: back and I didn't realize. I don't think that they

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Speaker 3: changed it in whenever that was twenty twelve, but I

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Speaker 3: did realize.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, where did my version go? What version did

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Speaker 2: I memorize it in?

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Speaker 3: Was it the re because that's what I grew up

548
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Speaker 3: with in the Methodist Church was revised standard, and then

549
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Speaker 3: I started going non denominational and it was an IV.

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Speaker 2: I think I memorized an IV. But you're right, because

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Speaker 2: I remember.

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Speaker 3: That solves a mystery for me because what throws me

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Speaker 3: off is I had already memorized it. So when you

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Speaker 3: have already memorized something, it should be easier to re

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Speaker 3: memorize it, unless they throw a wrench shit. I think

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Speaker 3: that has been like an unknown block for me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So thank you for saying that, because I

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Speaker 1: truly did think that it was eighty five percent of

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Speaker 1: me being petty and being like, well you changed my

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Speaker 1: versions to No, it's not like a.

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Speaker 2: Vendetta that you have.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just a I put all this time

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Speaker 3: and effort into memorizing this. Now when I go back

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Speaker 3: and re memorize it, it's different. And so I'm going

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Speaker 3: to have to start from scratch because I can't fall

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Speaker 3: into that da da da da da da da da

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Speaker 3: like rhythm of memorizing because then you get to the

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Speaker 3: word that sticks and it makes it difficult. Very interesting,

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Speaker 3: that solves a mystery for me.

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Speaker 1: Well good, I'm so glad that we got to overcome

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Speaker 1: some of our blocks today, which hopefully this is going

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Speaker 1: to do for a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: The other thing, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I

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Speaker 3: want to go back to you, having memorized like half

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Speaker 3: of the Book of Matthew. What is your process? How

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Speaker 3: did you get like what did that look like? Because

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Speaker 3: that is fascinating to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it started with something that I had in

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Speaker 1: my teens. I was part of the Bible Quiz team,

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Speaker 1: which again used the NIV. And for anybody whose children

581
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Speaker 1: have access to Bible Quizzing, I really highly recommend it.

582
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Speaker 1: And if you're an adult and you're not going to

583
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Speaker 1: be on a Bible Quiz competitive team, I can give

584
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Speaker 1: you some of the tips and tricks. But the year

585
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Speaker 1: that I was most involved in the Bible Quiz team,

586
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Speaker 1: it was the Book of Matthew and so I was

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Speaker 1: already very familiar with it as an adult from my

588
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Speaker 1: experience doing it for Bible Quiz. So let me tell

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Speaker 1: you about Bible quizzing and then I'll tell you about

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Speaker 1: how I extrapolated that to memorize it as an adult.

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Speaker 1: The thing that I loved about Bible Quiz was have

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Speaker 1: you ever done anything like that? Or do you know

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Speaker 1: about Bible quizzing?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I know you did it with your kids, but I

596
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Speaker 2: don't even know exactly what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So picture something kind of like academic to cathlon.

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Speaker 1: We're like, you get a team, you all learn the

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Speaker 1: same material, and then you go and compete against other

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Speaker 1: teams to see who knows the material best. And so

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Speaker 1: it was, here's a bunch of teenagers who are all

602
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Speaker 1: studying the Book of Matthew, and so like the first

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Speaker 1: meet or tournament or whatever they call it, it might

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Speaker 1: be like Matthew one through five, and then the next

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Speaker 1: one might be like Matthew five through ten, with a

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Speaker 1: few questions about Matthew one through five, and so over

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Speaker 1: the course of a school year, you're working your way

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Speaker 1: through the entire book of Matthew. Cool. That's how it

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Speaker 1: goes and the way it was set up. And I

610
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Speaker 1: don't know if this is more to do with the

611
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Speaker 1: way Bible quiz is set up, or just the way

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Speaker 1: our coach is taught it, or probably if I had

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Speaker 1: to guess it, some of both. It allowed me to

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Speaker 1: get really good at looking at a passage and asking myself, Okay,

615
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Speaker 1: how many questions can I make from this? Because it's

616
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Speaker 1: never the questions I ask are never about interpretation. It's

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Speaker 1: never like when Jesus says, blessed are the pure in heart?

618
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Speaker 1: Who do you think he's talking about? It would be like,

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Speaker 1: why are the pure and heart blessed? And you would say,

620
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Speaker 1: because there's is a kingdom of heaven, right, And so

621
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Speaker 1: it's always if it's not there written in the text,

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Speaker 1: it is not part of the answer. In the way

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Speaker 1: that it's taught. So it's almost like sat reading comprehension

624
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Speaker 1: where you just learn the answer is always there, or.

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Speaker 2: Battle of the Books. It reminds me of Battle of

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Speaker 2: the Books.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the answer is always there, you just need

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Speaker 1: to access it. So let me pull up I'm going

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Speaker 1: to pull up seventeen since we're recording this going into

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Speaker 1: Good Friday, and I love some of Jesus's discourse. So

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Speaker 1: this is Jesus's prayer and John seventeen using the nal NIV.

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Speaker 1: And so I will show you the way that if

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Speaker 1: I were reading this for a Bible quizzing, what I

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Speaker 1: would be asking myself after Jesus said this he looked

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Speaker 1: toward heaven and prayed, I would literally say, where did

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Speaker 1: Jesus look he looked to heaven? And then I would say,

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Speaker 1: what did Jesus do he prayed? And then I would say,

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Speaker 1: when did Jesus look toward heaven and pray after he

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Speaker 1: said this? And so basically, you take one verse at

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Speaker 1: a time and you ask yourself, how many reading comprehension

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Speaker 1: questions can I create from this verse? So, for example,

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Speaker 1: verse ten, Jesus is praying and he says, all I

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Speaker 1: have is yours and all you have is mind, and

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Speaker 1: glory has come to me through them. So my questions

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Speaker 1: would be, what is Jesus's okay? All I have speaking

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Speaker 1: of God the Father? And then what has come to Jesus?

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00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: Glory has come to Jesus? How has glory come to Jesus?

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Speaker 1: Glory has come to me through them? So you read

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Speaker 1: the verse and then you just go through how many

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Speaker 1: of those questions can you come up with? And so

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Speaker 1: basically I was doing it as a teen to be

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Speaker 1: ready for any question that they might ask in a competition.

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Speaker 1: But what I was truly doing was making sure that

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Speaker 1: I was looking at the verse from every single side

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Speaker 1: an angle. And so that was the Bible quiz method

656
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Speaker 1: and way to do that. And I think it's extremely

657
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Speaker 1: helpful even if you're not doing it for a competitive setting,

658
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: to just if you get to where you really just

659
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: want to or need to slow down your Bible reading,

660
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: ask so what does this per se?

661
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: What does this per se?

662
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: And it might sound a little moundane. Let's take Genesis

663
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Speaker 1: one one. What did God create the heavens and the earth?

664
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Speaker 1: When did God create it in the beginning? Who created

665
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: the heavens and the earth. God created the heavens and

666
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: the earth. So that's right there. That's three different ways

667
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: of looking at that verse. And maybe in the process

668
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: of doing that, something is going to jump out to you. Yeah,

669
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: oh wow, in the beginning that like that's kind of

670
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Speaker 1: profound as opposed to just in the beginning God created

671
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, I've known that forever. Or maybe it's He

672
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: created the heaven and the earth, right, Like, you can

673
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: even practice putting the emphasis on different words to see

674
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: like in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

675
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: Or in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

676
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: Or in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, right, Like,

677
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: there's different different ways. So again I go back to

678
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: kind of my tactile way of thinking and learning, and

679
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: you're really just manipulating the verse from his as many

680
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: angles as you can.

681
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: That is so cool. So how did you take that

682
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: strategy and extrapolate it to scripture memory, like actually memorizing

683
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: one verse after another, because that's what I would have

684
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: no problem coming up with the questions, but doing the

685
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: actual memory work is just sounds really daunting.

686
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: The biggest thing I would say is you need to

687
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: identify your blocks and figure out how to get over them.

688
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: I had a couple of blocks as an adult going

689
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: back into memorizing. Right now, my biggest block is this

690
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: whole thing about the NIV changing, And theoretically, what I

691
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: know I need to do is just get the version

692
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: that I'm used to and still learn from that. I'm

693
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: not going to try to do all the new stuff.

694
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: And honestly, this is gonna sound so over dramatic. I

695
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: need to forgive the NIV for throwing this huge wrench

696
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: in what was such a huge part of my Bible

697
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: study for the majority of my life, because it really

698
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: did throw me off, and there's part of me that

699
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: I think has been holding on to. Well, if I

700
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: just stopped memorizing in description, then won't they be sorry? No,

701
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: they don't know who I am and they don't care

702
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: you know so. But one of the blocks I had

703
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: it as an adult getting back into memorizing is the

704
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: act of memorizing would get mentally so taxing that it

705
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: could trigger like a depressive episode, and I needed to

706
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: look at it as like, basically I saw it as

707
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: a spiritual attack. It was when I get into really

708
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: intense Bible memorization, I get this spiritual attack and get

709
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: really depressed. I think if I were to go back

710
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: and coach myself now, I would actually make myself question that.

711
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: I would say, are you truly under spiritual attack or

712
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: are you just expecting because of coincidence that a couple

713
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: times you have memory scripture and have had depressive episodes

714
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: after that? Have you made a false association that now

715
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: is becoming a self fulfilling prophecy?

716
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: Or is there a physiological thing that happens you know

717
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: something about like you know how bright lights activate seizures,

718
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: you know, can induce the seizure. What if something about

719
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: firing your brain in that space constantly might trigger something?

720
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Speaker 1: Or I know, for me, if I focus on one

721
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: thing for more than several hours, like really intense focus,

722
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: I get a sore throat. Like physiologically that probably shouldn't happen.

723
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm clenching or something. Who knows, but

724
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, so, yeah, there's all kinds of reasons it

725
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: could be. But at the time, what I chose to

726
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: do was to say, even if it makes me feel depressed,

727
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: this is important enough that I'm gonna do it. I

728
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: think now I would also go ahead and question the

729
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: premise and be like, is this really like is it

730
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Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion that memorizing the Bible makes.

731
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: Feel depressed or or not?

732
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: But that was that was one of the big blocks.

733
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Speaker 1: The second block was a little more practical, and it

734
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: was I by that point I had memorized chap like

735
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Speaker 1: a chapter of multiple passages of Scripture. I had ninety

736
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Speaker 1: percent memorized some of the shorter epistles like I could.

737
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Speaker 1: I could have recited them with eighty to ninety percent accuracy.

738
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Speaker 1: When you get to something as long as what I

739
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: was doing, it was it's really hard to mentally say, Okay,

740
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start at Matthew one one and just lying

741
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: a bed at night, I'm going to see how far

742
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: I can go, you know. But it's also really good

743
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: mental training to do that. And so what I would

744
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: do is at night, before bed and in the morning

745
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: when I woke up, I would try to like pick

746
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: a place to start and see how far I could

747
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: go without getting distracted. And the reason why I finally

748
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: quit and didn't go beyond Matthew seventeen or eighteen was

749
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: I got to where to progress. I really did need

750
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Speaker 1: somebody to sit and listen to me recite the whole thing,

751
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: like with the Bible in front of them, and A

752
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: that's a lot to ask of somebody, and B I

753
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: didn't have the voice capacity to like just recite that

754
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: much without getting worse. Yeah, so that's how's But basically

755
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: it was it was a very similar process to what

756
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: I did for Bible quiz, in that I would read

757
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: a verse and kind of just examine that versu mentally

758
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: from as many angles as I could until like that

759
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: versus in my head, and then I would go to

760
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: the next first. So it was like, okay, read verse

761
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: one enough to yourself that you can do that, and

762
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: then read verse two enough to yourself three you can

763
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Speaker 1: get that. Next step is put verse one and two together,

764
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and then keep going. Another

765
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: tip that worked well for me is, and this is

766
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Speaker 1: another reason why just finding a pirated copy of the

767
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: old NIV and just printing it off would be harder.

768
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Speaker 1: Is the way I memorize is I see on the

769
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: page where I'm at, and so it would be harder

770
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Speaker 1: for me to memorize with like here's this Bible here,

771
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: and here's this Bible here, because even if it's the

772
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: same words, there are different parts of the page, right.

773
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Speaker 3: So.

774
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: You're definitely visually learning.

775
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: Yes, so I'm almost like picturing myself in the location

776
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: on the page that I am trying to recite from.

777
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: And so then once you get to where you can

778
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: put two or three verses together, then you just go

779
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: to the next chunk. And so I would learn it

780
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: chunks at a time, and then not until then when

781
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: I try to put the chunks together.

782
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: So you try and just build it like a train

783
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: where you're doing one you do a chunk, and then

784
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: you do another chunk, and then you kind of put

785
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: them together. That that definitely is a good tip and

786
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: seems more doable.

787
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then another block. And this wouldn't I wouldn't

788
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: even call a mental block. This is just a logistical block.

789
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: Is eventually, if you don't keep reciting something to yourself

790
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: that you've memorized, you don't retain it verbatim. And so

791
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: it's one thing to be like, Okay, I think the

792
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: very first book of the Bible I memorized was Philippians,

793
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, that was cool. But unless

794
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: I say it to myself like once a week, or something.

795
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna not going to remember all of it,

796
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: And so then it turns into how do I this, Like, Okay,

797
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 1: I memorized Philippians and now I want to memorize First Peter.

798
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: Does that mean I need to work on First Peter

799
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time and ten percent of the

800
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: time refresh on Philippians. So I had to get over

801
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: this idea of once I memorize it, it needs to

802
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: stay memorized in my head for it to be effective.

803
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: Because the act of memorizing it, even though I still

804
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: do not have the Book of Philippians memorized, was a benefit,

805
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? So I could see

806
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: that being another hang up. People have another hang up.

807
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: I could see people getting into is how do I

808
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: even know what to start with? Why why Philippians are

809
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: not Galatians? Are you saying that Philippians is better than

810
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: Galatians or things like that? So, yeah, lots of things

811
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: like that, And you're mind, what would be some of

812
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: the blocks that you think.

813
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: You would bet up against.

814
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: I think I have a tendency to look at to

815
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: have like overwhelmed paralysis, and so I would just be

816
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: like I would tell myself kind of like you told

817
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: yourself get I get depressive episodes when I do scripture.

818
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: I would tell myself, I'm not really that good at

819
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: memorizing things. I mean I said that earlier. I mean

820
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: that's a label, that's like something. I'm a story I'm

821
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: telling myself about myself. You know what, Maybe I'm not

822
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: that bad at memorizing things. Maybe I just need to

823
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: go try it. And so I think self fulfilling limitations

824
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: and just saying that's too big, that's too much, There's

825
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: no way I'll be able to do that. I'm not

826
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 3: good at memorizing things, is what would stand in my way.

827
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest blocks that a lot

828
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: of people are going to come across is that block

829
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: of well, i'm too old, right, Like, I was fortunate

830
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: to have a strong basis for memorization when I was

831
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: a kid. So going back to the NIV that I'm

832
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: used to, even if it's a passage that I hadn't

833
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: actively memorized when I was a teen, for example, I'm

834
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: familiar enough with it that it would be easier for

835
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: me to memorize that than it would be for me

836
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: to memorize like a passage of Shakespeare or something, do

837
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It's in my head and

838
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: in my brain.

839
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: And it makes sense because the context, the ideas are

840
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: all very familiar. Mm hm.

841
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: However, I really feel like we are called to be

842
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: faithful with what we've been given my brain. Probably, and

843
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: maybe this is a cop out, and maybe this is

844
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: not true. I don't know that my brain is designed

845
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: to memorize eighteen chapters of the Bible anymore.

846
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: It might not be.

847
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that I am off the hook

848
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: from ever being I don't want to say supposed to.

849
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that God doesn't expect me to

850
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: ever memory scripturegen just because I don't have the brain

851
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: capacity I might have had in my twenties, I still

852
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: have some brain capacity, right Like I can still remember

853
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: your name, I still remember what you look like. I

854
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: remember the name of your kids. I mean, obviously I

855
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: have some working memory. And obviously, again, like the more

856
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: you use your brain, the better it gets it and

857
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: I find the mental benefits. I mean, this could be

858
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: its own total episode, the mental benefits of memorizing scripture

859
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: in addition to just the spiritual benefits. I mean, I'm

860
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: sure that would take an entire episode to list out

861
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: just the focus that you get and this idea of neuroplasticity. Yeah,

862
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: memorizing your first chapter of the Bible is going to

863
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: be harder than memorizing your tenth chapter of the Bible

864
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: because your brain isn't used to that. And don't bite

865
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: off more than you can chew. If I were to

866
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: get back into it, I would probably start with a paragraph.

867
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: For me, a paragraph makes the most sense because it's

868
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: not something I could do in just like a single sitting,

869
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: like you know, John three sixteen or something like that.

870
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: But it's also not something that is so daunting that

871
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Speaker 1: I would never complete it. Right, So figure out where

872
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: is your brain capacity? What is your opacity for memorizing something?

873
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: And then this other question like you talked about, of

874
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: decision or overwhelm, just ask God to bring to mind

875
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: what is best and to me it. And this sounds

876
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: really morbid, and you and I have talked before about

877
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: this most likely over the top, probably not super healthy

878
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: fixation with like being martyred or suffering for my faith.

879
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: But one of the questions I would ask is, Hey,

880
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: if I was in prison for being a Christian and

881
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: had no Bible. What passage would I have wished I

882
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: had memorized, you know? And if you strip out maybe

883
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: the fear mongering behind that, but just ask it kind

884
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: of without a ton of emotion attached to it, that

885
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: might not be a bad place to start, Like do

886
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: you have if if you and I both committed to

887
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: memorizing a passage of scripture, do you have one that

888
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: pops to the forefront of your mind.

889
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: I don't have an actual scripture. I can take a

890
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: stab at it. But before that, I want to make

891
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: a note. I didn't realize until you started, until you

892
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: said that that my little rant at the beginning about

893
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: you know, the grid's going to fail, or if you're

894
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: in prison for your faith and don't have a Bible

895
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: that idea came from. I know there's a scene in

896
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Speaker 3: one of your North Korea books, and I don't remember

897
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: the details, but I think the person doesn't have a

898
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 3: Bible and they're either trying to remember or they're glad

899
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: that they remembered. But that is the image I have

900
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: in my mind, is the same image that I had

901
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: when I was reading about that person imprisoned. That makes

902
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: me think exactly that if I were in prison, yes,

903
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: and I didn't have a Bible, and I didn't have

904
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: an electronic way of looking up things. What would I

905
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: want to know? And that is that is such a

906
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: good question. It would definitely be something in the New Testament.

907
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, although I've like fallen in love with the

908
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: psalms through doing the songs every week, I love them,

909
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 3: so I would probably say I would I'll pick one

910
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: psalm and it will be a psalm that is one

911
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 3: of the ones where David is just being.

912
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Persecuted and.

913
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: Reflecting on God's greatness, which I think Psalm fifty six

914
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: was the one that I most recently recorded, and it

915
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: was in the line of that, and so you know,

916
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: something like that. But I think I would also want

917
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: something from the New Testament, and I don't know what

918
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 3: that would be. I'm trying to do you have any

919
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: I don't think I that.

920
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: My next would be from Romans eight for New Testament.

921
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: There are lots of beautiful parts in that, but it's

922
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: some one where more than conquerors, it's also the neither

923
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: height nor depths, you know, nor anything else can separate

924
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: us from the love of Christ. There's a lot of

925
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: beautiful encouragement in Romans eight. So I think New Testament,

926
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: I think pretty much hands down Romans eight. I would

927
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: love to brush up on the Sermon of the Mountain,

928
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: have a little that more access to that as well,

929
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: And then Old Testament Psalm ninety one jumps way up

930
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: in the forefront, just a beautiful prayer of protection. You

931
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: sent me a prayer based on Psalm ninety one forever

932
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: ago that meant the world to me. Do you even

933
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: remember that?

934
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: No?

935
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: I don't.

936
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: You think it was like the very first prayer text

937
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: that you ever sent me.

938
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

939
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: And it was also the basis for a prayer I

940
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: wrote before I wrote The Beloved Daughter, my first North

941
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: Korean novel. I wrote out a prayer that I prayed

942
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: every day before I started writing, and it was based

943
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: off of Psalm ninety one. Wow. And honestly, I mean

944
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: tons of Isaiah. If I if I had to pick

945
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: like Isaiah forty through the end of Isaiah, I would

946
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: learn to have axs so for me to pick. But yeah,

947
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: if I were to just jump in own, I would

948
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: do like the last section of Romans eight is where

949
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: I would start.

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00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: I would also want because I'm assuming I might be

951
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: in prison with other people, and I will definitely have

952
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: prison guards like Paul. I would want access to, word

953
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 3: for word a nutshell of the Gospel. Mm hmmm, so

954
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: that I could like actually present it word for word.

955
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: That would be cool, or at least look back on

956
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 3: that mentally, so that I'm expressing it in a way

957
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: that's biblical.

958
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, I like that.

959
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: Well, actually, that's a perfect segue to a plug for

960
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: our Christian True Crime Junkies podcast, because we recently did

961
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: the entire story of Stephen the First Martyr and his

962
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: entire sermon to the people persecuting him.

963
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: So for people who.

964
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: Haven't checked out are Christian True Crime Junkies, you can

965
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: listen to that if you're not into crime and you've

966
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: avoided it for that reason. We have a recent episode

967
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: about Steven, which is all right from the Bible. So

968
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: with that, let's go ahead and just plan on chatting

969
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: more about Bible memorization next time as well. I have

970
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: an entire part of my testimony is losing the ability

971
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: to memorize script and having zero recall. Oh wow, there

972
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: were a couple of years I if you had asked

973
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: me John three sixteen, I would have been like, oh, yeah,

974
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: I think I learned that one once. So there's yeah,

975
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: there's more to that, and then more just practical tips

976
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: and tricks for people interested in Bible memorization. Should you

977
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: and I are we going to do an accountability thing?

978
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: Are we gonna come back next week with a passage memorize? Oh?

979
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,479
Speaker 2: Let's do it? Yes?

980
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: What is it?

981
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: What are we going to memorize?

982
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: Why don't we each just pick one and come to

983
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: come and we'll make those our versus the day. I'll

984
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: recite mind tiero and you can you recite yours to me?

985
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that'll be good. Don't let me forget I'm gonna.

986
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to you need a hack to provide yourself.

987
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 4: I need to start with just remembering to memorize scripture.

988
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 4: Just not even the memory of the scripture, just remembering

989
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: to memorize it.

990
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: Let me let me put a digital memo in my memory.

991
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be doomed when technology fails us.

992
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: Don't say that.

993
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not.

994
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 2: I'm in good shape.

995
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: Well, I'm so glad we get to discuss this. Let's

996
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: go ahead and closed for today, at least with our

997
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: blessing and men addiction. May the Lord open the eyes

998
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: of your heart and fill you with wisdom in the

999
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: inmost places. May the Glorious Father grant you a spirit

1000
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: of wisdom and our relation, so you may know Christ,

1001
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: who has become for us wisdom from God. On the

1002
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: areas of your life in need of guidance, May God

1003
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: grant you His wisdom and abundance, so that you will

1004
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: not lean on your own insight, but rely on the

1005
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: full riches of complete understanding, which are yours in abundance through.

1006
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 3: Christ and our benediction comes from Psalm twenty nine, verse eleven.

1007
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 3: May we shout for joy over your salvation, and in

1008
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 3: the name of our God, set up our banners. May

1009
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: the Lord fulfill all your petitions. May the Lord give

1010
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 3: strength to his people. May the Lord bless his people

1011
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: with peace.

1012
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Speaker 2: Amen.

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