1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hillsdale at Hillsdale dot ed. I encourage you to take 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: advantage of the many free online courses there, and of 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: course I'll listen to the Hillsdale Dialogue all of them 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: at HU for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple, 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: iTunes and Hillsdale. Welcome back, America. I want to introduce 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: you to the man of the impossible task. Chairman, sorry 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: to say it that way, Representative Jason Smith, the chairman 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: of the Houseways and Meads Committee, has the impossible task 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: of getting a second reconciliation through the House Republican Caucus with. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: Losing only two votes. Can it be done, mister chairman. 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: Do? 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 3: It's great to be with you. 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 4: I said all along that we needed to do one big, 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 4: beautiful bill to put as much of the items we 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 4: could possibly get in to deliver the president's campaign promises 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: for the American people. It is very very difficult, very 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 4: very difficult to do two reconciliation bills, and when you 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: can only lose two people, and one member of our 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 4: conference is going to be a no on you know, 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 4: whether you support oxygen yes, that that creates a very get. 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: Is his name Massy? Yes, go ahead. 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 4: I won't be saying any names, but I will just 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: say that the records on the voting records speak for themselves. 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 4: But it is so important that the American people know 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 4: what we have delivered in the big beautiful bill. 27 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: Have I have folks all. 28 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: The time when I travel across the country that's like, 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: I didn't know that there was these investment accounts that 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: are for new children born in America. Or I didn't 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: know that you could do one hundred percent expensing on 32 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: new machine sheds that's built in America. I mean, there's 33 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: so many things that people don't know about. We need 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: to do a better explaining what was in the first 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 4: Reconciliation Bill before trying to debate of whether there should 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: be a second one. 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Well, there is the debate. So I just want to 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: test some things out on you. Because you remember when 39 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: they have the crossed axes and Robin Wood has to 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: shoot the arrow through the crossed axes, so you got 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: to get the arrow through about twenty cross access. What 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: do you think about a tax credit for first and 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: last month's rent Because we're talking about an affordability issue. 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: We got to hit young people. We got to hit 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: people who don't have a lot of money. How about 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: a tax credit for first and last month rent for 47 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: an apartment. 48 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 4: You know, we've been working with the administration on all 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: kinds of different tax ideas and proposals about housing affordability. 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: This is one of the items that I've heard people discuss. 51 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 4: Tax credits though are not very popular. Tax deductions, they're 52 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: a little bit more doable. So it's different items that 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: we can look at. But I mean, just even looking 54 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: at the depreciation schedule that could have a huge impact 55 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: on housing. But there's so many different things to look at, 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: whether allowing people with their four oh one K to 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: use that as a down payment on purchasing a home. 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 4: There's numerous things we can be looking at and that 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 4: we are discussing. But all those housing things that we 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 4: just brought up, those could be done in a bipartisan 61 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: tax bill. There's no reason why it has to be 62 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: in a reconciliation bill. 63 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Oh, that's not going to give you any more wins. 64 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: They're not. Because I've gone through the tides of House 65 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: seat losses. In the second term of Republican President Eisenhower 66 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: lost forty nine seats in nineteen fifty eight. Ford lost 67 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: forty eight seats in nineteen seventy four, regularly lost five 68 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: seats in nineteen eighty six, but w lost thirty seats 69 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 1: in two thousands. So the tides are not with you right, 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: So to deliver something to the youngs would be big. 71 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm not arguing here for the relief for seniors and 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: let them get their money out of the four oh 73 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: one case and the I rate. That was smart for 74 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: the first round. But this has to be for young people. 75 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: So if you're going to do it, when would you 76 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: have to get started on persuading people. 77 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: So part of the discussion, too, Hugh, is when I 78 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: was referring to the four oh one case, some of 79 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: the discussion that's going on is allowing parents to utilize 80 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: part of their four oh one K for down payments 81 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 4: for their kids, you know, to try to get more 82 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 4: home ownership. Think first time home ownership went from thirty 83 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 4: two years old when Trump was last president to today 84 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: it's forty years old. Is the average age of a 85 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: first time home buyer. We had to break that cycle, 86 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 4: and we need to look at all different aspects to 87 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: do it. But I do believe that you can find 88 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: the right policies, the right language, and force the Democrats 89 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: that they have no other alternative than to vote for it. 90 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 4: We've done that on numerous things within the House. I 91 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: think we can do it on some housing affordability issues 92 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 4: as well. 93 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Let me suggest one on that I used to be 94 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: a land news lawyer, mister chairman, so I know that 95 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: in certain states like Florida, New York, California, the appreciation 96 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: of houses that have been held for twenty years is 97 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: way over five hundred thousand dollars. It just is. And 98 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: so a million dollar houses now a three million dollar house, 99 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: so no one can sell that house until they die, 100 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: and the basis steps up, Why don't you increase the 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: exemption from five hundred thousand to a million and a 102 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: half or something like that in order to get more 103 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: houses on the market, increase supply and drive down demand, 104 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean drive down prices a queue. 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: You're hitting all kinds of different tax provisions that our 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 4: committee members have been discussing along with members who's not 107 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: on the Ways and Means committees. So it definitely is 108 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: of interest to a lot of people. Of course, that 109 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: hasn't changed in decades. Like you pointed, out and a 110 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: lot of times you have to update the tax code. 111 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: All right, last thing I want to talk to you about, 112 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: and this has to be bipartisan, and I think you're 113 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: right to go out and talk about all the good things. 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: That's what the President did at Davos for an hour 115 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: and a half today, did at the press conference yesterday 116 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: for two hours. California, I've only been back here for 117 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I've got a few more weeks 118 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: to go. They're bankrupt, they don't know it. They're they're 119 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: a zombie state. They have unfunded pension liabilities are through 120 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: the roof that Gavin Newsom's running into the ground. We 121 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: need a chapter in the Bankruptcy Code for states. We 122 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: have them for local governments like Detroit's use it and 123 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: sam Bernina County. We don't have a code chapter for states. 124 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Is that something you'd ever tackle? 125 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: That is not something within the Ways and Means Committee jurisdiction. 126 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: But I have not had any I have not heard 127 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 4: myself any conversation in regards to going after that approach. 128 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: I just wish that states would get their fiscal house 129 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 4: in order. Un Fortunately, we see a lot of them 130 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: spin like drunken sailors. But it's just it's crazy. 131 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: It's not recoverable in California. 132 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: I did the math when I got out here, and 133 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: it's actually they can't do it given the contracts that 134 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: they've entered into at their public employee unions. 135 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: So, mister Chairman, when will you make the decision? 136 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: Go no? Gos figures got to come back from London 137 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: and take a victory lap for his great speech in 138 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: front of the Parliament. But when do you sit down 139 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: and decide go no, go on a reconciliation Try realizing 140 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: you can lose one member. 141 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: That's impossible, Wow, one member. 142 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a decision, Hue of leadership. Before a reconciliation 143 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: package can even start being crafted in my committee, the 144 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: Budget Committee has to pass a budget resolution laying out 145 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: the parameters of the reconciliation and so that is the 146 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: first step throughout the process before it can even come 147 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: to us. So I just don't believe, though, Hugh, that 148 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: there's a path way. 149 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: I'm glad here you say that. 150 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to waste time on the majority. That's 151 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: very useful. You were the and thank goodness you were 152 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: out there arguing for one big beautiful bill because it's 153 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: it's only gotten harder. You need a majority of twenty 154 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: or so to get two of them done, and it's 155 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: not there. But thank goodness, you're here to sell the 156 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: rest of it and to make sure the tax code. 157 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: Maybe you can get the housing thing through. Who knows, 158 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: because that bad exemption hasn't changed in forever. Chairman Jason Smith, 159 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me today from the housewaves. 160 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: It means committee, great member from the show me state 161 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: in Missouri, and we are lucky to have them there 162 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: running ways and means don't go anywhere, America. I'll be 163 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: back with House Conference chair Lisa McClain in a segment 164 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: or two. Don't go Anywhere. Stay tuned to the Sale 165 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: News channel or head over to my YouTube channel, Hugh 166 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: Hewett and YouTube like and subscribe. Please welcome back in America. 167 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, Representative Lisa McClain, as Chairman of the 168 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: House Conference for the Republicans in the House, I should 169 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: say chairwoman Presentative welcome. It's great to have you on. 170 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: I was just talking with Jason Smith about operating with 171 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: a two person majority, which is really one because Congressman 172 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: Massi doesn't very often vote with us. What's the plan 173 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: for this year? I know that the off years, and 174 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: I'll run through the horrible math. IIC lost fifty eighteen 175 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: forty eight seat, forty nine seats in nineteen fifty eight, 176 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: Ford lost forty eight seats at nineteen seventy four, Reagan 177 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: lost five seats in nineteen eighty six, and w lost 178 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: thirty seats in two thousand and six. So this is 179 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: the second term mid term tough terrain, is it? 180 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 181 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: It is. 182 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 6: But you know what, We've defied the ads to this point. 183 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 5: Right. 184 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 6: I'm an optimist by nature, and I think we're on 185 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 6: the right side of things. We're right, we are on 186 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 6: the right side of the policies, and it's incumbent upon 187 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 6: us to go out and do shows like yours and 188 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 6: correct the truth with the other half of the truth. Right, 189 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 6: I think Americans vote with their pocketbooks and with the 190 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 6: work that we've done in the working families tax cuts. 191 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 6: I think people are going to see real relief. They're 192 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 6: already seeing real some real relief. But we are going 193 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 6: to continue to dig out of this disastrous mess that 194 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,359 Speaker 6: Joe Biden and the Democrats left us, and again I'm optimistic. 195 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: I mean, just compare and contrast the two parties. 196 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: Goodness gracious, Now, Congresswoman, I went to Michigan Law School 197 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: at University of Michigan Law School, So the Michigan is 198 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: deep within you. I hear it in your voice. How's 199 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: that state looking in the off years? Up there in 200 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: the governor and Mike Rogers comes on a lot and 201 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: we talk about Mike, how do you feel about it? 202 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: You know, again, I feel pretty good. 203 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 6: And I feel pretty good because we're doing everything right 204 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 6: and we're getting out to vote, and if you take 205 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 6: a look at the governor, I think we have a 206 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 6: real shot of winning the governorship. 207 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: For the first time. 208 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 6: We've uh, we have good you know, we have good 209 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 6: candidates at the top of the ticket and a law 210 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 6: we have we have that, not to mention that we 211 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 6: have a pretty strong independent. It's the he's the mayor 212 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 6: of Detroit, and we're all betting that he's going to 213 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 6: take more votes from the Democrats than he's going to 214 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 6: take from the Republican So I'm optimistic about that. I'm 215 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 6: also very optimistic about Mike Rogers winning the Senate. Look, 216 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 6: we've cleared the field in Mike Rogers is our candidate. 217 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 6: Where the Democrats are still fighting in the primary, that 218 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 6: bodes very well for us. And who the Democrats are 219 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 6: talking about and are favoring in the primary is the 220 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 6: radical left wing communism. I mean the policies, the defund ice, 221 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 6: you know, celebrate the criminals, the no law and order, 222 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 6: the transgenders, all the crazy stuff. The Democrat Party in 223 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 6: Michigan is just going way, way, way to the left. 224 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 6: And I think people want how Man sense, and I 225 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 6: think Mike Rogers bring that. 226 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: I added a couple of new affiliates in Michigan on 227 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: January one. They're up in just on the Lake Way 228 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: up north, not on the up but on the other side. 229 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: So we're talking to all of the state. It's really 230 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: a red state with a couple of blue dots, right. 231 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: Michigan, You got that, right, that right? 232 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: One of those blue dots is Ann Arbor. And so 233 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: what do you do about a play the college campus 234 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: of the United States where they apparently don't teach economics anymore. 235 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 6: Well, the University of Michigan just got a new president, 236 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 6: so I'm a little bit hopeful on that. It's their 237 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 6: board of regents really that are more left wing and 238 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 6: they need to really focus on educating students on how 239 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 6: to think, not what to think. And my hope is 240 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 6: that they will get back to doing just that. But 241 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 6: I think you'll see a different, different landscape up there 242 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 6: too with the unfortunate death of Charlie Kirk or murder 243 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 6: I should say of Charlie Kirk. You know, enrollment of 244 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 6: Turning Point is growing, growing Republicans, young Republicans at the 245 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 6: universities are really sparking. So that's always encouraged and optimistic. 246 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 6: And if we can get the Save Act on the 247 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 6: floor and get voter registration, I think you're clean up 248 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 6: a lot of those was the voter rolls and have 249 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 6: a really good election. It's going to be tight, right, 250 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 6: We're not going to win by twenty points, but I 251 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 6: think we'll continue to keep it run. 252 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 5: Well. 253 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: Let me turn over to the redistricting wars. 254 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: I was reading one analysis today that says the Democrats, 255 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: if you add it all up for everything that's been 256 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: done today, they're plus one. Assuming that California doesn't get 257 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: thrown out by Scotus and then we don't get the 258 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: voting rights decision and we don't see anything out of 259 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: Florida and we don't see anything out of Indiana. Is 260 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: that your math. 261 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 6: If all of those things happen. But those are pretty pessimistic. 262 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: So I think at the end of the day, we. 263 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 6: As Republicans will probably pick up two because I don't 264 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 6: think all of those things will go in the democrats favor. 265 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 6: I think what we really need to focus on. Quite frankly, 266 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 6: we are on the right side of the issues. He 267 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 6: We are on the side of lawn or we are 268 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 6: on the side of lower taxes for every American. We 269 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 6: are on the side of common sense. For goodness sakes, 270 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 6: that's what really is going to prevail. And the Democrats 271 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 6: are just going so far to the left. 272 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: I mean, we. 273 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 6: Elected a socialist mayor in the city of capitalism, New York. 274 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 6: I mean, let's give New York the world. Let's give 275 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 6: them a real experience on what socialism or communism really 276 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 6: looks like, and let's remember that one that doesn't work, 277 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 6: and they come begging for Congress for more money because 278 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 6: at some point in time, people want to get paid. 279 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 6: So free buses, I think the bus drivers want to 280 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 6: get paid. Gee, free grocery stores, you think the farmers 281 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 6: want to get paid that sells their goods and services. 282 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 6: Everything sounds good, but you know as well as I 283 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 6: do nothing in. 284 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: Life very young people. Though I mentioned this to Jason Smith, 285 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: Chairman Smith was on with me earlier. How about attack 286 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: credit for first and last month the rent that's really 287 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: a rifle shot aimed right at the twenty one to 288 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: thirty year old demo? Have we done anything for them 289 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: for the twenty one to thirty year olds that you 290 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: can point to? 291 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're doing a lot of stuff right 292 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 6: now with interest rates with home purchases, and the President 293 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 6: is really. 294 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: Focused on that. 295 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: We haven't done a ton legislatively to do that, other 296 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 6: than if you look at the no tax on tips 297 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 6: and no tax on overtime. That will have a big 298 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 6: effect on those young people as well, because you look 299 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 6: at a lot of those young people they work while 300 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 6: they're going to while they're going to college, or you know, 301 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 6: they work, and they usually work bartending jobs or waitressing jobs. 302 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 6: That will have a major effect on them as well. 303 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 6: To keep the more money in their pocket and give 304 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 6: less money to Uncle Sam. 305 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: Lisa McClain share Women of the House Republican Conference. Always 306 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,239 Speaker 1: good to talk to you, great to have a Michigander 307 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: on although Ohio State did beat Michigan today, I do 308 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: you have to point that out this year. 309 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: To bring that up? Bring that out? 310 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: Of course I do. After the year before it, Yes, 311 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: after four in a row. Yes, of course I have 312 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: to do that. And now we just go back and reset. 313 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk about again next year after the game again. 314 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: We'll play up from the Big House next year. Lisa McLain, 315 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Don't go anywhere, America. I'll 316 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: be right back on the Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome back 317 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: in America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Mary Katherine Ham is with me. 318 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Mary Catherine Ham as the host of the Getting Hammered 319 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: podcast and the Normally podcast. She is a sad SEC 320 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: fan because the SEC was not anywhere to be seen 321 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: in the College National Championship, which was won by the 322 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: Big Ten for the third year in a row, Michigan, 323 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Ohio State, and now Indiana and Mary Catherine, do you 324 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: think Georgia will ever return to the Big Game? 325 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: Yes, I do. 326 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 7: The thing about being an SEC fan is that we 327 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 7: don't need to ask Big Ten fans or Northwestern fans 328 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 7: to constantly affirm us. 329 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Well, we do because after all the years we've been 330 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: beaten up by the SEC because of the reps of ESPN. 331 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: We need to remind you people level the blading field. 332 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: I just go, we'll see you next year. 333 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see you next year, and I hope I 334 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: think we open with Texas next year. The Buck guy 335 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: only were going to do it in Texas, so we'll 336 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: start right away. Mary Catherine President was at Davos today, 337 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: gave the longest press conference in history yesterday. Well, maybe 338 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: Chris Christie still holds that title. Put it all together, 339 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: it comes down to we're not going to use for 340 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: us to take greenland. Markets are happy. He thinks we 341 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: have a great economy. I tend to agree with him. 342 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: I also think he's done well in the first year. 343 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: But I want him to hit Iran so hard that 344 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: the eyes go back in their head and they're out. 345 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: What do you think. 346 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: I'm with you on Iran. 347 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 7: I thought it was interesting to watch everyone go gaga 348 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 7: over the Canadian Prime Minister Mark Karney, who's certainly a 349 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 7: cut above Trudeau. But it feels very much like Obama nostalgia. 350 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 7: They listen to this pretty cynical speech. If you actually 351 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 7: listen to the meat of it, but given this sort 352 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 7: of lofty intellectual tone as compared to a Donald Trump 353 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 7: speech and press conference. 354 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: Which is a very different animal. 355 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 7: But what he was saying really was like, us middle powers, 356 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 7: we're going to get together, and we're going to tell everybody, 357 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 7: you know, we're going to become powerful somehow. We're not 358 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 7: going to militarize or do the things we need to 359 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 7: do or create the things we need to create. America 360 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 7: will still do that, and then sort of like falsely equivalent, 361 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 7: making false equivalents of China and Russia and the US 362 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 7: as equal superpowers. It was odd to me, and I 363 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 7: think there is something to the idea that what he 364 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 7: was saying was like. 365 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 3: This old, this old thing that we all understood as 366 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: the world order was kind of fake. 367 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 7: And now I'm just going to tell you that we're 368 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 7: exiting it now that it's convenient for us to exit it. 369 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: It was convenient for us. 370 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 7: The whole time, and now we've decided we don't like 371 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 7: Donald Trump, and so we're out and we're going to 372 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 7: say hi to China. 373 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 3: And I just found the whole thing very off putting. 374 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: I have to be very careful here because my daughter 375 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: in law is Canadian. Was born in Montreal, and my 376 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: my in laws are Canadians, so they have naturalized Americans 377 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: now and now I say bones are high because they're 378 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: from Montreal. But I want to point out I didn't 379 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: read Mark Carney's beach, I didn't watch Mark Carneie's speech 380 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: because I love Canada, love maple syrup, I really do. 381 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they matter much to us. We like 382 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: their oil. They can send it to China, but if 383 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: there ever comes a conflict, they'll be with us, or 384 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: they won't be with anyone. Erry Catherine. That's the reality. 385 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I think a lot of this is about 386 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 7: reality is that Europe and Canada don't like the tone 387 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 7: of Donald Trump. 388 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: But the tone of Donald Trump is. 389 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 7: The only thing that's gotten any of them to spend 390 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 7: money on defense, as the Secretary General of NATO pointed 391 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 7: out at the World Economic Forum. And so even when 392 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 7: I'm annoyed with Donald Trump's tone or saber rattling, I 393 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 7: am reminded that I was incorrect about him and NATO 394 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 7: the first time around, because that is what got people 395 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 7: to take care. 396 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 3: Of their busines and to spend more money on defense. 397 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 7: So I'm sort of of two minds about his strategies 398 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 7: on these things. And I think on the Greenland thing, 399 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 7: this might be, you know, heading towards attempting to get 400 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 7: a deal by making a bunch of noise, as often 401 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 7: the case with him. 402 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: Now, tell me about Carney, whether or not he mentioned 403 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: Operation Midnight Hammer or Operation Absolute Resolve, both of which 404 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: helped the West, both of which helped Canada, the first 405 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: one of which helps the world. Actually, we don't want 406 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: now that we know what Iran is capable of, we 407 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: really are glad that they don't have a nuclear weaponry, Catherine. 408 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: Did he mention that. 409 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: I don't think he mentioned that. 410 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: No, All right, so let's go back to Iran. What 411 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: do you expect? And I know we're all guessing here. 412 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: I think he's going to do something. I think we're 413 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: going to see it because he does not want what 414 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: is already surfaced online, because the right thing to do, 415 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: but be he's also had to have seen online the 416 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: taco stuff is already out. Yeah. 417 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 7: No, I think he is interested in protecting his own 418 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 7: threat credibility. 419 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: Right. 420 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 7: That is what he is powerful about him is that 421 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 7: people think he will act when he says he will act. 422 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 7: He also was material in getting some folks out into 423 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 7: the streets in Iran who paid the ultimate price. 424 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: No doubt. 425 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 7: And so I think, you know, it is morally incumbent 426 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 7: on him to do something. And I have a lot 427 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 7: of faith that there's plenty of stuff going on behind the. 428 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: Scenes that we're not seeing. 429 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 7: But I think you're right, Hugh, that it would do 430 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 7: the West and everyone a lot of good to take 431 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 7: action and to make sure that that threat remains credible 432 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 7: for all the other people who are watching. 433 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask your grizzly math ability. There's a 434 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: math question. Iran's got ninety two million people. If the 435 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: Iranian style execution of Stado Scenry in the streets occurred 436 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: in the United States, how many Americans would be dead? 437 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: What is it? Was it like ten percent of the 438 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: population or something. 439 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: No, it would be sixty eight thousand Americans. We're using 440 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty million Americans as the non nominator. 441 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: In ninety two million Americans, fifteen thousand in the exit 442 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: would be above three sixty. I've worked it out for 443 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: you there. You can go home and do the master. 444 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: But that's what I like to point out. People call 445 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: Trump a fascist people who call him dictorial. This is 446 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: what a fascist regime actually does. It mows down fifteen 447 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: thousand of its own people in prisons ten thousand more. 448 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: And I see the network's turning away. I got a 449 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: very wisch question coming up that have you seen any 450 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: coverage of the massacre? Since it wasn't front. 451 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 7: Page there's there's very little, and I think it's because 452 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 7: they don't know how to frame this. It's not part 453 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 7: of the narrative that they want to tell, because the 454 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 7: narrative they want to tell. 455 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: Does not want to put what is you know. 456 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 7: Ice raids in American cities next to actual fascism and 457 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 7: what actual totalitarian societies look like, or Venezuelan's talking about 458 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 7: what actual totalitarianism looks like. 459 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: I don't think that's a story that they want to tell. 460 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 7: I think it's complicated, and I think the idea that 461 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 7: Trump would be full to both of these citizen reies 462 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 7: is uncomfortable too many who cover the networks. 463 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: And by the way, you know I went to the SEC. 464 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: Don't ask me math questions. 465 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: Right now. I want to finish with Barry White. I 466 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: want to tell the audience again. I've talked to with Barry. 467 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: Once in my life we tried to write a piece together, 468 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: like ten years ago. It didn't work. And Barry's I 469 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: think center left may be very slightly left, but center left. 470 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: She's a good journalists. There's a story in Variety today 471 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: that ten people from CBS News think she's ruining it. 472 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: Now there are metrics actually for whether or not she's 473 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: ruining it, because the audience already ran away from CBS, 474 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: Mary Catherine, Can you believe Variety counted on ten people 475 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: and said she's going to destroy the network when in fact, 476 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: audience flight is what's destroying the network. 477 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 7: Look, I think it's so silly, this whole campaign to 478 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 7: tell me that CBS News hiring a New York Jewish 479 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 7: lesbian who just moved from la is too far left 480 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 7: for there's too. 481 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: Far right for these people. How far left do you 482 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: have to be? 483 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, No, Barry is a curious, interesting, smart person, 484 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 7: and the audience had already fled, and I am interested 485 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 7: in what she's doing. 486 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: So my and I hope she goes to I like 487 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: Ed Whittaker, I met him, I like Ed, I worked 488 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: with him. But I hope she goes and just turns 489 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: over sixty minutes into something completely new. That's the next stop. 490 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: She's done. Tony dekoppole, how'd you like Tony with the President? 491 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: Did you watch it? 492 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 7: I like Tony a lot, and I've liked Tony since 493 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 7: they dogpiled him over asking ton of He's coats one 494 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 7: hard question. So I think anyone who can do that 495 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 7: and stand up to his network should stick around and 496 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 7: do the hard work. 497 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: Well, said Mary Catherine Ham getting hammered and normally are 498 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: her podcasts. She is unfortunately an SEC gal, but we'll 499 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: talk about that next year as the end as the 500 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: Big Ten begins its third year reigning a top all 501 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: of college football. Thank you, imk H. I'll be right back, America. 502 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: Stay tuned to the Conquet Show. I call up my 503 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: hotbeddy with Washington Examiner to Hewitt. Google it. Welcome back, America. 504 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt, joined by Charles C. W. Cook. You 505 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: can follow him on exit Charles C. W. Cook with 506 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: an EE on the end of that. He is the 507 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: senior writer at National Review. His podcaster carries his podcast 508 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: carries his name, Charles W. Cook. 509 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: He is a Jacksonville Jaguars fan. 510 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: And I'll get to the serious stuff at first seasons 511 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: over the Cleveland Browns have the Jaguars twenty fourth pick 512 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: in the draft. We're going to take an offensive lineman 513 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: with that. I'd be willing to bet my life. 514 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: Are you happy with the trade a year later? 515 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 516 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: I think so. 517 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 8: I didn't expect it to go thirteen and four, which 518 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 8: was a reversal of the previous year, which was four 519 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 8: and thirteen. So I'm pretty sure the Browns didn't expect 520 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 8: that either. If you told me that at the beginning 521 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 8: of the year, I'd have been astonished. Of course, I 522 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 8: was upset when we lost in the wild card, but 523 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 8: it was to the Bills, and Josh Allen is a 524 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 8: pretty good player. 525 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: And McDermot shouldn't have been fired. I'm actually happy with 526 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: twenty four because we were so bad. We have six 527 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: and four so we can get a wide receiver and 528 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman in the first round. So everybody went. 529 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: Now. I don't want everyone to win in Iran. 530 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: I have a column in the Examiner day should President 531 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: Trump hit Iran? Willie? 532 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: And I think he. 533 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: Should because to murder fifteen thousand people low end estimate 534 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: in the streets by the regime, not to go unpunished. 535 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 8: What do you think, Charles, Yeah, that's certainly one way 536 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 8: of looking at it. I don't disagree with you if 537 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 8: the aim is merely to be punitive, I worry that 538 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 8: we would not be able to affect the change that 539 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 8: we want. I also worry a little bit that we 540 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 8: promised that we would help in Iran. Then all those 541 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 8: brief people went out in the streets, and then we 542 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 8: didn't for whatever reason, and then fifteen thousand of them 543 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 8: were murdered. I'm not against hitting them for what they 544 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 8: did on human rights grounds. What I really want is 545 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 8: for a shift in Iran's government. And I was more 546 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 8: hopeful than I had been for a long time, although 547 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 8: I was still pretty skeptical because I keep being promises 548 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 8: and it never happens. 549 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: You know, Charles, I'm going to put the argument forward 550 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: that we can't put the people in the streets who 551 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: got shot on Trump's promise because their internet was down. 552 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: I think they went to the streets like they did 553 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: in twenty two in two thousand and nine because they 554 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: hate this regime. They've just been They've never been met 555 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: with machine guns and weapons of mass destruction this way, 556 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: and I want a punitive I don't think you can 557 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: do regime change from the air, and we aren't sending 558 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: troops in. But we can do to Iran what he 559 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: did to Syria twice, which was to communicate to Asad, 560 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: you use the chemical weapons and we will blow up 561 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: buildings that you want. And I don't know why we 562 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: don't hit carg Island. I've had a friend of mine 563 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: in the business tell me that could get the Chinese 564 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: involved rebuilding it, and they need that oil. But that's 565 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: what I would blow up. 566 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: What would you blow up? 567 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 8: Well, I don't know. I don't know about how this works. 568 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 8: I think that our last target was over due out 569 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 8: obviously being the Iranian nuclear program. I'm not a military strategist. 570 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 8: As a sort of foreign policy question. From a perspective 571 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 8: of a citizen, I'm quite happy to make them squeal 572 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 8: for what they've done. I think you make a good case. 573 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 8: I'm not blaming Trump, just so we're clear. I'm just 574 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 8: saying that I hope that's not what happened. 575 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: Oh, I get you. 576 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 8: I hope that there weren't people who went out there 577 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 8: and thought, you know, if we push over the top 578 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 8: this time, there will be support coming from the United 579 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 8: States and then there wasn't. 580 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 5: I don't think, you know, Trump can be. 581 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 8: Blamed for that, but I just hope that there weren't 582 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 8: people who thought there was helpcoming that wasn't. 583 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: And I want him to follow through on a spoken 584 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: promise because other people will hear other things in the future. 585 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: He said it to me, he said it to Sean Hannity, 586 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: he said it to Tony ducoppole, he said it online 587 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: eight times. I think he said help is on the 588 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: way or some variation. So I think he had to 589 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: follow through. 590 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: Now, Greenland. 591 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: We began yesterday with the demand and a promise of 592 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: a tariff that was reiterated in the speech. It was 593 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: walked back in the pressure, and then it was definitively 594 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: walked back in the president's exchange with Joe Cernham, which 595 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: you and I listened to off air without specifics. What 596 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: do you think that Trump walk himself back or did 597 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: he have a real deal. 598 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 8: No, I think he walks himself back. I'll take this 599 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 8: from the beginning. I think that the notion that the 600 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 8: United States would benefit from acquiring Greenland is solid. Yes, 601 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 8: It's been in American mind since the mid nineteenth century 602 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 8: when Seward was doing the Alaska deal. He also wanted 603 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 8: to take Greenland, and Harry Truman famously tried to buy 604 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 8: the place in nineteen forty six. So the idea you 605 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 8: hear from some people that this is Trump being crazy, 606 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 8: or that this is a complete distraction based on nothing 607 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 8: is wrong. I also think if we weren't so much 608 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 8: in debt that by it would be well within the 609 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 8: tradition of American foreign policy. So I am very open 610 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 8: to the idea. But I think that Trump's behavior in 611 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 8: the last three or four days has been erratic and 612 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 8: bizarre and indefensible. I think that even muttering about invading 613 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 8: I know he's walked that back now is counterproductive. I 614 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 8: think that putting tariffs on allies, I know he's not 615 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 8: going to do that now, but that was the threat 616 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 8: and the markets responded is crazy. And I think ultimately 617 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 8: he has backed off here and pretended that there is 618 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 8: some sort of deal that there's not, at least not 619 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 8: that alters the status quo in ways that would satisfy 620 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 8: those of us who think this. 621 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 5: Is a good idea. 622 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 8: Is a reaction to the bond market and the economic 623 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 8: fallout from these threats, rather than to a real change 624 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 8: in diplomacy. 625 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: Okay, my prediction is going to be the Danes are 626 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: growing to agree that he can interpret the military Treaty 627 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: and Existence expansively extended for many, many years, and commit 628 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: to the United States the protection of the exclusive economic 629 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: zone of two hundred and thirty miles around their twenty 630 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: seven thousand miles of shoreland, so we can keep the 631 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: Chinese fishing fleet out from destroying the Arctic fishing ponds. 632 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: But we will see Charlie. Generally speaking, are you better 633 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: off today than you were a year ago? 634 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 5: Yes? I think I am. How are we measuring that anyway? 635 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: I just put it to the audio. I just got 636 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: a call from a guy in Orlando who's an importer 637 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 1: of toys from China and greeting cards from around the world, 638 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: and he had to lay off eight employees. He's crushed. 639 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: That's actually somebody. I believe. He spoke like a guy. 640 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: I really believe him. But if you buy gasoline and 641 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: you're a trucker, you're better off today than you were 642 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: a year ago. So I usually think of economic terms. 643 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I have been and continue to be outspoken against 644 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 8: the tariffs. I think, with the exception of those on 645 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 8: China the counterproductive. I don't believe the president has the 646 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 8: legal authority to impose them. I don't know the Supreme 647 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 8: Court will uphold that or not. But I am of 648 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 8: the view that the interpretation of AEPA is wrong. And 649 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 8: as a non delegation guy, I'm not sure YEPA is constitutional. 650 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 8: So I do believe that your interlocutor is suffering as 651 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 8: many are. 652 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 5: But yes, I am better off. 653 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 8: I'm also better off because I can plan better for 654 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,239 Speaker 8: my future given the renewal of the SAX cuts from 655 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 8: twenty seventeen. 656 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 5: Yes, and that was not just important. 657 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 8: Financially, you cannot have the largest tax increase in American history, 658 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 8: which was the alternative, but making those permanent and also 659 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 8: adding in things like full expensing for businesses just allows 660 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 8: a level of economic planning and assumptions. 661 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 5: That are really important. 662 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 8: Add into that the deregulation that the president's been engaged in, 663 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 8: which is good. Yeah, I think I am better off. 664 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 8: I think he's made a lot of mistakes, but overall, 665 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 8: I think I am. 666 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: And have you listened to yesterday's argument before the Supreme Court, 667 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: we're in Justice Jackson and Brown. Jackson introduced the black 668 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: Coach as history and tradition relevant. 669 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: To the Okay, well you did listen. 670 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: What did you think I had fun with it yesterday? 671 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 8: Well, at Hawaii's law here is crazy, and Hawaii's crazy 672 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 8: because whenever Hawaii is challenged on Second Amendment issues that 673 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 8: it's Supreme Court at the state level puts out things like, oh, 674 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 8: we have the spirit of Aloha is supreme. 675 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 5: But yeah, that was crazy. 676 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 8: I never thought I would hear a Supreme Court justice 677 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 8: say that, you know, Jim crow Law has justified gun control. 678 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: I know it's a moment. 679 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 9: It's a moment for people who follow gun law and 680 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 9: mark down and say I read nobody saw that one 681 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 9: coming and they didn't get that question. 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That's 708 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: one eight hundred four to one one forty four to 709 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: fifty four. Don't forget My code is Hugh. Welcome back 710 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: to Berica. I'm Hugh Hewittt. Sarah C. Bedford of The 711 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: Washington Examiner joins me, I'm about to read my Washington 712 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: Examiner column from today next segment, Sarah, But I want 713 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: to ask you as a Beltway resident. I'm out in 714 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: California for a couple of weeks more, what are you doing? 715 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: Given the mixed signals we're getting. Uh, you're either going 716 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: to be hit by an asteroid or you're not going 717 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: to be elbow open your door because of snow or 718 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: freezing ice will make it impossible to get to the safeway. 719 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 720 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: Listen? I already loaded up my grocery cart last night. 721 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: I've got soup, I've got water. 722 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 10: You're never gonna regret buying necessities, right, So I am 723 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 10: on the panic side, off the spectrum for the storm. 724 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: Oh. 725 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea. 726 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: Now, what does Can you work from home? Can you 727 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: turn in copy from home? Are you able to do that? 728 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 3: Yes? 729 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 10: Unfortunately COVID killed adult snow days, so I will be 730 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 10: working from home if that occurs. 731 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: COVID did kill adults. 732 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: What do you think is the best forecast? What is 733 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 2: your operating theory? 734 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: Because my daughter and my four grandkids are debating taking 735 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: a trip. They're on the southern edge of this thing, 736 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: up to Maine and back to do a little skiing. 737 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: And I have no opinions because I don't want to 738 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: get involved. What do you think is going to happen? 739 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 10: I don't know if it's just my social media algorithm 740 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 10: that's feeding into all of this fear, But if you 741 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 10: looked at my Twitter feed, you would think that this 742 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 10: is the storm of the century. The history books will 743 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 10: record it, the streets will be littered with bodies like 744 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 10: I'm nervous for it. 745 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 3: But also nothing could happen, So who knows that I thought? 746 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: I love the forecast. The snow will between one and 747 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: seventy eight inches, maybe possibly. But what I really hate 748 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: as a long time in and out resident, is freezing rain. 749 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: Have you gone through a freezing rain storm yet? 750 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 3: Yeah? 751 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 10: Well, you know, I'm from the South, so a quarter 752 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 10: inch of ice just absolutely crippled the city. Ice was 753 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 10: actually worse, you know, when I lived in Atlanta than 754 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 10: when I lived here. 755 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: You were there for that nightmare. 756 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: I was. 757 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, So it's just a youth, But ice, especially in 758 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 10: the South, can be much more damaging than snow. 759 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 3: Nobody knows how to drive or do anything when there's ice. 760 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: Now, you can't drive. That's the bottom line. You can't drive. 761 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: And the metro edit work. So Sarah, I had Jason 762 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: on from Housewaves and Means today and the chairman told 763 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: me that it basically said there isn't going to be 764 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: a reconciliation. Is that what you're reporting is as well? Well? 765 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 10: The Republican Study Committee is keeping the flame of hope alive. 766 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 10: They put out this sweeping proposal on affordability that they 767 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 10: think can be done through reconciliation. I think it'll ultimately 768 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 10: depend on whether the White House ends up backing this move, 769 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 10: and Trump and the White House officials have play their 770 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 10: cards pretty close to the vest on whether this is 771 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 10: something they're interested in. 772 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: It would be less ambitious than the One Big. 773 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 10: Beautiful Bill Act, the Reconciliation package from last year, but 774 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 10: Republicans seem to understand that this is probably their last 775 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,959 Speaker 10: shot for a few years to get anything done legislatively, 776 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 10: given the likelihood the Democrats will retake the House in November. 777 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: What Sherman Smith noted is that they can only lose 778 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: one vote because Massey will vote now, so they have 779 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: to get it through the Budget Committee. They have to 780 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: get it through all the committee, they have to get 781 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: it through the Rules Committee, got chip Roy and the 782 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: gang over there. I mean, is it worth the effort? 783 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: Do you think it's worth the lift? 784 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 3: It depends on what it is they're doing. Right. 785 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 10: One of the proposals that has a lot of interest, 786 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 10: not just from conservatives, but from a lot of independence, 787 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 10: you know, across the spectrum. The potential for broad appeal 788 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 10: is allowing Americans to use their retirement savings or their 789 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 10: hsas are all kinds of money that they have tied 790 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 10: up places tax advantaged money for a down payment on 791 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 10: a first time home purchase. 792 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 3: That would be. 793 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 10: Huge for people in my age group who are saving 794 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 10: up to buy their first home. Right, if they focus 795 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 10: on something narrow that has brought appeal, maybe they can 796 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 10: get it through right now. The reconciliation proposal has stuff 797 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 10: like eliminating the estate tax, It has healthcare reforms, it 798 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 10: has those home affordability reforms, So they might have to 799 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 10: pair that back significantly. 800 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 3: If they want to have a shot it consensus. 801 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like that idea. I think that's a 802 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: fine idea, and I think Democrats would vote for it. 803 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: Have you been following the Virginia legislature now it's all 804 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: democratic state. The very first bill I saw introduced is 805 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,479 Speaker 1: a death tax of three point eight percent. I will 806 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: not be living in Virginia if that passes. It's like 807 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: and make people leave tax right. 808 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 10: And it's not just that the Democrats out they have 809 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,959 Speaker 10: a trifecta in Virginia put forward a bunch of really 810 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 10: progressive stuff, tax on services, all sorts of proposals that 811 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 10: really fly in the face of the affordability agenda that Spamberger, 812 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 10: the new governor, and a lot of those local Democrats 813 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 10: ran on. 814 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 3: It's actually kind of baffling that they chose that as 815 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 3: their first move. 816 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: Would you think it's fair to say she's gone full 817 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: mom Donnie, Well, she's. 818 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 10: Certainly leaning that way because one of her the first 819 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 10: things that she did unilaterally as the governor was to 820 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 10: cancel any sort of cooperation agreements that Virginia had with 821 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 10: immigration authorities, which is not something that she ran on, 822 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 10: not something that Virginians are even really demanding. 823 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: Did she say free busses yet. 824 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 3: Not yet? Give it another week? 825 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 9: I know, because it really is Mom Donnie, a blonde 826 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 9: mom Donnie, and we'll follow that space. 827 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: Sarah C. Bedford can be followed on. Actually is with 828 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: the Washington generally the investigative team there, and she's ready 829 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: for whatever the weather brings, which I've port for recovering 830 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: after the break were President