1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: Build Different is a production of the American Association of 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Christian Counselors. To support this podcast and learn how you 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: can help us to promote all our biblical content, spread 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: the Gospel, and provide mental health resources and training to 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: people everywhere, just go to aaccfoundation dot org. Again, that's 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Aaccfoundation dot org. Welcome to Built Different. I'm Zach Clinton, 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: your host, and each week I come to you exclusively 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: on the Life Audio podcast Network. I'm proud to partner 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: with Life Audio and bring you entertaining, life changing, family 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: friendly podcasts for a new generation. I Built Different. Our 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: mission is to provide encouragement, hope and challenge to help 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: push you past your limits and reach goals you never 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: thought possible. Colossians two, verse six says, So then, just 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: as you received Christ Jesus's Lord, continue to live your 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: lives in Him, rooted and built up in him. 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: Amen. Now let's roll. 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back into the Built Different Podcasts, 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: the place where we seek to have conversations really at 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: the intersection of ministry, mental health, and motivation. As always, 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: I'll be your host, doctor Zach Clin, and today we're 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: down here a Celebration Church, Jacksonville, Florida, just about a 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 2: stones throwaway from Patavidra, hometown of our very special guest, 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: John Gordon. 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: John. 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: Something about John that a lot of people maybe don't 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 2: know about me publicly is that he has really trained 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: me and equipped me. I've been to a lot of 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: his events, I've read countless of his books, and this 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: man has really helped shape and mold the man and 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: the leader that I am today. So I'm incredibly grateful 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: for him. I could read your entire bio, but I 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: will say this, You're humble. On your website, you say 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: your top three. I think he's the leading voice on leadership, 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: the leading author, the leader speaker. He's written thirty two books, 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: eighteen or bestsellers, five or children's books, The One Truth, 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: The Power of Positive Leadership, The Power of a Positive Team, 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: his newest, The Seven Commitments of a Great Team. His 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: one coming up in May, The Power of Positive Habits. 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: John Gordon, my friend, Thank you for Johns. 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: That great to see you, and that means the world 42 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: because what you are doing and the leadership you're displaying 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: is incredible. 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: The student passes the teacher very quickly. 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: John, let me start out this way training camp. Your 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: big events coming up here May first. I'm already signed 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: up for it. Jordan Montgomery got me in. I'm like, dude, 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 2: i am going paid the price. Cannot wait to be there. 49 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: I'll say this. Tons of NFL coaches from Sean McVay 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: with the La Rams, Mike McDonald won a Super Bowl 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: with the Seahawks just this past year. You have Kevin 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: O'Connor with the Vikings, Liam Cohen with the Jags, tons 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: of ncable A, Matt Lafleur, tons of college football coaches 54 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: and basketball coaches, leaders, Tim Tebow, Tim Timberlake. Everybody's in 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: the room. Why is it such an exciting event for 56 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: leaders to want to flock to? 57 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 3: And Torren Wells's coming just as a guest to be there, 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 3: to hang out like that's crazy, just to hang out 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: in the room like he's bringing us out. 60 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be so great to have him there. 61 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: It's the kind of event where the audience is business leaders, 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: and then the speakers are these incredible coaches and leaders 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: who have built cultures, who have built great teams, who 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: have incredible stories to share, who are just iconic in 65 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: their fields, like Sean McVay is already an iconic coach, 66 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: and I think people want to come and learn from them. 67 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: But it's also an intimate room. It's only one hundred 68 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: and fifty seats, so these coaches are in the room 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: hanging out. There's no green room. They're not away, they're 70 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: in the midst They're hanging out with everyone. So it's 71 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 3: a kind of feel that is very intimate, very energizing. 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: Everyone's learning and growing together, and you feel like you're 73 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: a part of something. It's not like you're watching something. 74 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: You're actually engaged and involved with something. Like we might 75 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: ask you during the event to actually ask a question, 76 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: but also share. 77 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you doing well in the audience, what's 78 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: working for you? 79 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: Because we know that the audience and the leaders in 80 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: the audience are just as powerful and insightful as the 81 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: people on stage. So it's incredible like a think tank, 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: a think tank of like all these credible leaders coming 83 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: together in one place. 84 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Had the vision. 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: Years ago, wrote the book Training Camp Yes, and I 86 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: knew I wanted to do an event that really involved business, leadership, 87 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: sports and faith. And that's the other part. Last year, 88 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: these guys did not share their successes. They talked about 89 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: their brokenness. They talked about their worst moments, They talked 90 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: about what they learned when after winning the Super Bowl 91 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: the following year, Sean talked about how he was really 92 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: in a place of darkness and how he turned it 93 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: around after that, and how Kim m O'Connell was a huge 94 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: support for him. I can't wait to have him, Kevin, 95 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: Matt Before, William Cohen all worked together as part of 96 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 3: Sean's tree, all on stage together. That's hearing insights like 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: the nitty gritty, the dirty stuff, Like we're gonna learn 98 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: a lot and hear a lot and that's what's so cool, 99 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: Like you got to be in the room to hear it. Yeah, 100 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: last year, Jim Rome, the famous broadcaster, was there and. 101 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: He goes, there's something going on here. I don't know 102 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: what it is. I don't know what this is feeling is. 103 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: I've never felt this before. 104 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 3: Because Matt Rule is sharing about how he lost his 105 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: confidence after getting fired from Carolina, Sean McVay was talking 106 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: about how he was broken after winning the Super Bowl. 107 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: Because you don't hear these alpha males talk about this. 108 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: He goes, I don't know what I'm experienced to go 109 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: I go out, Jim, that's the Holy Spirit. Come on, 110 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: everyone whoa he was feeling the Holy Spirit. Matthew West 111 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: was playing music before me. He's coming back this year 112 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: to play music. It's why Torren Wells might have to 113 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: ask him to do a little caveo with Matthew West. 114 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: Might be cool. 115 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: John, I tell you what, I cannot wait to just 116 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: be in the room, to continue to glean from the 117 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: wealth of wisdom in that room, but also the wealth 118 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: of wisdom from you. I've gone to several of your events. 119 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: I've done the online virtual trainings during COVID, the ones 120 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: in person in California. You truly, again are just a 121 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: gift to the church, and a lot of people view 122 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: you as like the leadership Guru or mister Positive. But 123 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: when you talk about broken this year for a moment, 124 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: a lot of people may not know your backstory. John, 125 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: just for a second, I'd love for you to get 126 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: them just a better understanding. You're no stranger to suffering. 127 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: And you know, when you look backwards twenty thirty years, 128 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: could you imagine being where you're at today? 129 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: No? 130 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: No, And my teammates can't either. Because my teammates said, 131 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: I can't. 132 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: Believe what you're doing now, like you were. 133 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: A mental wreck in college and now you help all 134 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: these coaches and athletes and business leaders. 135 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: It's a miracle. 136 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 3: I'm proof that miracles are possible and you can actually 137 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: go from negative to positive and how faith could change 138 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: your heart, your soul and also rewire your brain and 139 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 3: your mind. Years ago, my wife threatened to leave me. 140 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: She said, if you don't change, we are over. And 141 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: I knew I needed to change. I just lost my 142 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: job during the dot com crash. Didn't know I was 143 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: going to pay their bills, didn't know how I was 144 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: going to support my family. I'm crumbling from the inside out. 145 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: I am fearful, I am negative, I am stressed. I 146 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: have no relationship with God whatsoever. And psychologically I was 147 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: broken and also in my soul. I was definitely fragmented 148 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: and I needed healing in a lot of ways. And 149 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: when my wife gave me that ultimatum, it began a 150 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: shift in me, a change in me. I said, Okay, 151 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: I want to become more positive. How I began researching 152 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: ways I could be more positive. This led me to 153 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: finding research that said you can't be stressed and thankful 154 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: at the same time. 155 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: If you're feeling blessed, you won't be stressed. 156 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: So I began taking these walks of gratitude every single day. 157 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: And when you take those walks, what is happening. You're 158 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: flooding your brain and body with these positive emotions that 159 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: uplift you rather than the stress hormones that slowly drain you. 160 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: And you do it day in and day out, you 161 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: create a fertile mind that is ready for great things 162 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: to happen. And I'm convinced abundance flows into your life 163 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: when gratitude flows out of your heart. That began to 164 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: shift in me. Those walks of gratitude turned into walks 165 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: of prayer. I began praying, and now over twenty years later, 166 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: I'm a completely different person based on those walks and 167 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: those prayers that led me to write the Power of 168 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: Positive Habits this year to say, what were the habits 169 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: that I did over the years, What are the habits 170 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: that will elevate you and your mind and your soul. 171 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: We have to engage in these habits. Principles informed, but 172 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: practices transform. And if you want to change your life, 173 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: you have to have habits and practices that will change 174 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: your life and I believe there are spiritual practices. There 175 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: are mental practices, there are physical practices that you can do. 176 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: There are relational practices that you can do that will 177 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: change you. 178 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: And so when I look back, it was okay. 179 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: God gave me the inspiration, He shifted my spirit. I 180 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: became a believer at thirty five years old. I gave 181 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: my life to Jesus. I was baptized. Obviously, that changed 182 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: everything for me. 183 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: Everything. 184 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: I'm a new creation in Christ and I no longer 185 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: live in that condemnation. Right I don't live in that 186 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: shame and guilt anymore. That's one of my key attributes. 187 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: It's one of my greatest strengths is I do not 188 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: live in the past. I look at the past, I say, 189 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: I don't like who that person was, but I'm not 190 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: that person anymore. 191 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: And I think even to. 192 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: Any Christians who are believers still live in their past, 193 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: they still live in their blame and their shame, and 194 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: it's okay to say, you know what, I'm not that 195 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: person anymore. I have a new creation, and God forgives me. 196 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: I am forgiven and now I'm moving forward to create 197 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: a new future. 198 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to stop this right there and jump into 199 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: say you're listening to Build Different. I'm Zach Clinton. We 200 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: need to break for a brief message from our sponsors. 201 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: I'll be back with our guests to keep the conversation flowing. 202 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: Right after this, you're listening to Life Audio. 203 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: John. 204 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: Something that we were just talking about before Prester Chord 205 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: was the idea of forgiving fast and that being one 206 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: of your favorite habits that you've begun to implement into 207 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: your life. And we can forgive because we have been forgiven, 208 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: and that's where faith really comes into play. Sometimes you're 209 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: just talking about a lot of times, especially for men, 210 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: the hardest person to forgive can sometimes be ourselves. 211 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: Talk about that habit if you would, Yep. 212 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: Well, years ago, when I was a year old, actually 213 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: my biological father left and hold I held on to 214 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: a lot of resentment, a lot of anger, a lot 215 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: a lot of bitterness over the years, and at thirty 216 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: one years old, I started to think about forgiveness. Then 217 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: when I became a believer, I went to go forgive him. 218 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: I flipped in New York, took my daughter with me, 219 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: and I forgave him. Now before that, I wanted to write, 220 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: but I couldn't write after I forgave him. I came 221 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 3: back and I started writing, and I've written all these books, 222 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: thirty three books now after forgiving my father. And what 223 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: I realized was, you have to forgive fast, because if 224 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: I would have forgiven faster, I could have started growing 225 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: so much sooner. The faster you forgive, the sooner you 226 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: start growing. I started to elevate right away when I forgave. 227 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 3: We hold onto this bitterness, We hold onto this resentment 228 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: and this anger, and it's like grasping hot cold with 229 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: the intent at throwing at someone else. You're the one 230 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: who's getting burned. But now imagine yourself just releasing the 231 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: hot coal. No longer burning yourself, you're no longer holding 232 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: onto it. Now you're free to start elevating. You're free 233 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: to start growing. You start, you're free to become who 234 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: you're meant to be. Everything changes when you do that. 235 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: So you release it. I'm releasing you from the burden, 236 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: from the pain, from what you have done. I'm releasing you, 237 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: and we are no longer connected. Because here's the thing. 238 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: If you don't forgive that person, that person actually still 239 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: has a hold on you and a tie to you. 240 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 3: So you're carrying around not only what they did, but 241 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: them and their spirit and their pain and their wounds 242 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: and all the stuff they're carrying. When you release them, 243 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: you let them go, and now you're actually free to 244 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: start healing yourself. 245 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: And so that's the key to forgiveness. So you got 246 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: to forgive fast. 247 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: It works really great in traffic too, Right someone cuts 248 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 3: you off. 249 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: Just forget right away. 250 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: Don't hold on to it, don't get angry, just just 251 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: let it go. And that is something that has been 252 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: keyed in my life, is to let go, and we 253 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: hold onto that in so many do so it's like, Okay, 254 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: who hurt you, who wronged you? 255 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: Forgive them. 256 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: You're not doing it for them, You're doing it for 257 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: you because you know this is the path and the 258 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: key to your healing. And so you forgive them, and 259 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: now you can start healing the wounds that you carry. 260 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: And as a man, as a leader, you're either leading 261 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: from your wounds or you're healing. So am allowing the 262 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: wounds to drive me. Sometimes those wounds drive you to 263 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: actually push harder, to work furviosly, like to try to 264 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: do everything possible to succeed, because you feel like you 265 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: have to be a success. To feel validated, to have worthiness, 266 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: and sometimes those wounds actually lead to unhealthy ambition, and 267 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: other times those wounds cause you to act in ways 268 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: you don't want to act, to do things you don't 269 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: want to do. You carry around the sin, you carry 270 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: around the burden, and so you act in ways that. 271 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: You shouldn't act. 272 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 3: You get mad, you get angry, You have a quick temper, 273 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: and things trigger you that shouldn't but then you have 274 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: this rage. And rage is often depression with energy. It's 275 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: depression with energy and anger. Rage are steroids of the soul. 276 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: It feels good in the moment because it feels better 277 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: than sitting on the couch. And there's a lot of 278 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: men who are actually depressed, but then they're choosing anger 279 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: because it feels better than being depressed on the couch. 280 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 3: And yet those steroids of the soul are actually destroying 281 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: you in the process. And you have to realize the 282 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: answer to that is love. The answer is forgiveness. The 283 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: answer is healing, and it's positivity, not negativity, and not 284 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 3: fake positivity, real positivity, love and optimism and belief and 285 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: resilience and grit. 286 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about here. I want to chat 287 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: with you. 288 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: I had you come and present virtually to our Liberty 289 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: University football team a couple weeks back, and you crushed it. 290 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: The guys are so receptive, they were just taking pages 291 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: and notes. Their coaching staff was so blessed because they've 292 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: read countless of your books and they absolutely loved it. 293 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: But the one thing I wanted to chat with you about. 294 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: You talked about commitments and one thing just upfront here, 295 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: because when we talk about leadership, when we talk about positivity, 296 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: sometimes these guys are like, you know what, that's a 297 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: great goal, John, But there's a difference between commitments and goals. 298 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: Differentiate those two if you would for a second, everyone 299 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: has goals, will. 300 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: Become a society that is obsessed with goals, yes, But. 301 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Will your goals take you to where you want to go? 302 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: No? Because every team wants to win a Super Bowl, 303 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: but only one team wins one. So your goals will 304 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: not guarantee your success. Your goals will not take you 305 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: to where you want to go, but your commitments will. 306 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: Commitments are greater than goals. Commitments lead you to your goals. 307 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: Goals are great, but commitments lead to greatness. So tell 308 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: me what you're committed to, and your commitments will create 309 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: your future. Your commitments will create who you become and 310 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: ultimately what you do as a team. So I believe 311 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: every team, every individual must have these commitments. They must 312 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: make these commitments that they truly will commit to to 313 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: become who they want to date and what they want 314 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: to grow into. 315 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: And if you're not gonna commit it, if you're not committed, 316 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. 317 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: So you have to really focus on those commitments. And 318 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: one commitment is the commitment to getting better. Yes, everyone 319 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: talks about getting better, everybody wants to get better, but 320 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: the truly committed ones to getting better, that's who grows, 321 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: that's who becomes great. And you have to be committed 322 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: to getting better when you're having success, yes, because so 323 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: often when people are having success, they actually stop growing. 324 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: They've become complacent, they've become comfortable. That's why John Madden said, 325 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: winning is a great deodorant. It covers up what stinks 326 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: about your team. So there are things that your team 327 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: is experiencing. There are things that you're experiencing that you 328 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: may not check on or realize or look at. If 329 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: you're having success, you're like I'm good. 330 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm good. 331 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: I don't even deal with that. No, I'm good, but 332 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: good is average, good is complacent. I really believe that 333 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: good whispers to you on your deathbed. You could have 334 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: been so much better, you could have been great, but 335 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: you chose just to be good, and you have to 336 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: commit to becoming great. You have to commit, even in 337 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: the times of success, when things are going well, to 338 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: get even better. And I realized that I always see 339 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: that there's another level. 340 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: Like Tim Tebow. 341 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: When I played pick a ball, yeah and singles. It 342 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: was supposed to be doubles. I go to his house 343 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: like a worthy of the two guys. He goes, no, 344 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: it's just me, me and you. When I want, we're 345 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: playing singles, okay, Tim. So now I'm playing singles with 346 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: Tim Tebow and it takes off his shirt. 347 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: He's massive. 348 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: I think he was trying to intimidate me, and we 349 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: are now battling and I'm just not going to tell 350 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: you the whole story. But we played three games. He 351 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: won the first two. I'm not a singles player. I 352 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: missed a bunch of shots I was winning. I'm so angry. 353 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: I even said fudge one time. I actually said another word. 354 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say it here. And then I 355 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: realized why I cursed in front of Like, you're not 356 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: allowed to curse in front. 357 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: Of God or Tim Tebow. It's not allowed. 358 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: Like sorry, Tim, He's like, it's okay, it's okay. So 359 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: we're bad. I'm very competitive. So we're battling. And that 360 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: third game. After the third game, Tim's doing sprints. He's 361 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: doing the sprints up and down the pick a ball court, 362 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: and I'm watching them do these sprints, and I realize 363 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: there's another level. That competition is now pushing me to 364 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 3: another level. So what am I doing now? Sprints? Getting 365 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: ready for a rematch. He's thirty seven, I'm now fifty five. 366 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: We're gonna have another rematch and we're gonna go at it, right, 367 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: But there's another level. Competition allows you to see the 368 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: other level. Adversity allows you to see how you can 369 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: grow and what you need to grow. Adversity is your 370 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: partner in growth. So always focus on getting better and 371 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: commit to getting better through the success, through the adversity 372 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 3: and through the competition, and then you take that to 373 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: another level. And again it's just nuances on how we 374 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: see commitments, but we often hear give your best, give 375 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: your best, Well, what does that mean? You have to 376 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 3: define it for people, and in the book, I define it. 377 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: Giving your best means that you're not always gonna be a. 378 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 379 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: Sometimes you're gonna be a third fifty per but you 380 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: can always give one hundred percent what you have, and 381 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: that is truly giving your best. So again, commitments that 382 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 3: you can make to elevate you. And I look back 383 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: at my family, like, I really committed to my family, 384 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: even though I was gone a lot on the road, 385 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: speaking a ton when I was home, I wasn't playing golf. 386 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: I was committed to them. And now my daughter's a 387 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: speaker going all around. Yeah, she's she's anointed in that way. 388 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 3: It was God's calling for her. Never thought she would 389 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 3: do this, so that's another miracle. But here she is 390 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 3: doing that, and I believe she's doing it because one 391 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: she had a relationship with me. She saw my commitment 392 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: to her, and I remember her saying, Dad, I don't 393 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 3: remember you gone a lot because I thought I traveled 394 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: too much, which Jay was I gone too much? He goes, No, 395 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 3: I remember you home, Dad. When you were home, you 396 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: were still engaged. There's a commitment there to be present, 397 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: to be engaged, and that creates the relationship and the future. 398 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: And let's wain what commitment is. By the way, there's 399 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: so many definitions on there. Yes, commitment is doing the 400 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: thing that you said you would do when you no 401 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: longer feel like doing it. 402 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: I think it's that symbol. 403 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: Thanky Johnson has a great quote on how we talked 404 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 3: about commitment. Mine is just basically doing what you said 405 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: what you would do when you nonger feel like doing it. 406 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: Because you don't always feel like doing the things that 407 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: you know you should do, but you have to do it. 408 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: And when you do that, that builds integrity, Yes, and 409 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: also that builds consistency. Consistency is actually the result of discipline. 410 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: We often look at, Okay, what's consistency, what's discipline? Discipline 411 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: is doing the things right that you know you need 412 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: to do, and you do them even though you don't 413 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 3: feel like doing that. So you have the will to 414 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: still do that because of your commitment to it. 415 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: So now you're disciplined. 416 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 3: And then consistency is the byproduct of being disciplined. 417 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: Over and over again, and then you get consistency. And 418 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: what drives those devotion. Devotion is the key. We live 419 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: in a world where how many coaches yelled at you. 420 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: Got to be disciplined, you got to be disciplined on stuff, 421 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: But they never taught you what discipline is all about 422 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: and what it means, and what consistency is. It's about devotion. 423 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: When you're devoted to something, truly devoted, discipline will be 424 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: a byproduct of that, and so will consistency. Trying to 425 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: be disciplined and consistent without devotion, like swimming upstream, it's 426 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: always a chore, you don't want to do it, But 427 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 3: with devotion, it's a challenge and you still love doing it. 428 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: There's that passion for it. No one makes you get 429 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 3: up and do all the stuff that you're doing. I 430 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 3: know that you are devoted to this and what you do. 431 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: No one how to make Steph Curry work on his 432 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: jump shot, No one how to make Tom Brady work 433 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 3: on his throwing motion. 434 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: Right a devotion. So I try to encourage people what 435 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: are you devoted to? 436 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: Your devotion determines your death today. So what are you 437 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: devoted to? And if you can really get clear on 438 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: that and be devoted to it changes everything. And I'm 439 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: devoted to God. Yes, I'm devoted to my family, and 440 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: I'm devoted to this work, to making people better, to 441 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: give my best, to create the best work i can 442 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: to truly help people get better. And I've got to 443 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: get better to make people better. I've got to grow, 444 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: and I've got to elevate to. 445 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: Help other people elevate. And that's my devotion. 446 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: Wow, you know, I want to talk about the commitment 447 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: here just for a moment of remaining or staying positive 448 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: in the face of adversity, in the face of challenge, 449 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: because I think John, there's a lot of people out 450 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: there where they're like, you know, it's great to throw 451 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: around that word positivity or positive thinking, but like when 452 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: the going gets tough, when the finances are you know, 453 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: in a crisis, when the marriage is on the rocks, 454 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: when there's a wayward child, there's a strangement involved, Like 455 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: it's really difficult to stay or to remain positive. But 456 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: I think it's in those moments that you teach some 457 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: very powerful but also practical principles that we can begin 458 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: to do, for instance, talking to ourselves more than we 459 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: listened to ourself. I was just interviewing a guy named 460 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: Russell Johnson, who's a pastor out of Pursuit Church in 461 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: the Spacific Northwest. He out of Washington, And he put 462 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: it this way because his back's pressed to get against 463 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: the wall right now. He's in a pretty difficult position 464 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: just fighting for religious liberty, infringement and things like that. 465 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: And I asked him, how do you remain confident? How 466 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: do you remain positive while guards are literally outside standing 467 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: just protecting him for something to potentially happen. I said, 468 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: how do you remain positive? And he gave me this 469 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: simple phrase, Victory has a vocabulary, and it's the same 470 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: idea of what you teach teach us, just some basic principle, 471 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: practical principles as to how we can remain positive in 472 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: the face of adversity. 473 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: Well, it's knowing what you believe will determine what you create. 474 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: And so your beliefs, your mindset, your thoughts, your beliefs 475 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: will ultimately determine your reality. You're not the thoughts you think, 476 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 3: You're the thought you believe. And so it's what am 477 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: I going to choose to believe. Negative thoughts are always 478 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: coming in, sorry, fear is always coming in, worry, doubt 479 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: will always come in I don't have to believe those thoughts. 480 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: I can choose to believe that the future is better 481 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 3: than today. I could have hope, and hope is so important, 482 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: so optimism that Okay, somehow, some way we're going to 483 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: get through this. I confront the reality and I see 484 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: the challenge. I see the situation, but I know deep 485 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 3: down we're going to find way forward. 486 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: And I have faith. And this is where faith comes in. 487 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: It really comes down that to disconnection and connection. Do 488 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: why does a person feel disconnected or connected? The root 489 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: for the Greek word of anxious means to separate and divide. 490 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: When you feel anxious, you actually feel separate and divided. 491 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: All mental health disorders report feelings of isolation, disconnection, and separation. 492 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: And you know from your work when someone experiences trauma, 493 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: this is a neurological separation that happens in the brain. 494 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: There's a disconnection. There's a fragmentation of your soul. When 495 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 3: you experience trauma, there's a disconnection. We call it a wound. 496 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: What is a wound but a separation of skin and 497 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: then the soul. It's a separation of your soul. 498 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: There's a wound. 499 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: So what life reveals as we go through life. Is 500 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: the disconnection or the connection? 501 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: I love? 502 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 3: People say, yeah, I got These negative thoughts are happening 503 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 3: all the time, and I'm fearful and I'm worried. I say, 504 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: I bet you feel really disconnected from God. 505 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: How'd you know so? Well? If you were connected to God, you. 506 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 3: Would feel joy, peace, love, power, confidence, courage. When you 507 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 3: feel disconnected from God, from yourself and from others, you 508 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 3: feel weak, You feel powerless, You feel anxiousness and stress 509 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 3: and worry and so much doubt and security. Exactly, it 510 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: makes so much sense. Let me give you a visual demonstration, 511 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: Say God, thank you. When you are disconnected from God, 512 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: all the negative thoughts come in, all the worry, all 513 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: the down Life is bringing about these situations and you're 514 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: experiencing them. But you're also now having worry and doubt 515 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: and fear. But when you're connected to God, can those 516 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 3: negative thoughts come in? 517 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: Can that fear comes in? Come in? Now? 518 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: Fear divides, Love unites and connects the Love of God. 519 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: The connection? Now, how do we do that? Right? 520 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: We were created for connection, and when you are connected 521 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: to your creator, you feel alive. So how do we 522 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 3: connect to our creator? We pray we have to spend 523 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 3: more time in prayer that creates the connection that gives 524 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: us strength to handle all the adversity. And now we're 525 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 3: filled with belief and faith and hope and love countering 526 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: all the hate and anger and fear and worry. So 527 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: this is like the real key to staying positive. And 528 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: the more you pray, you increase your capacity for leadership, 529 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 3: the ability to handle the challenges, the ability to solve 530 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: problems and lead your team forward towards the future. 531 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: And so it increases your capacity. 532 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: And if you don't do this, if you don't pray, 533 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: if you don't take the time to connect with God, 534 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: what happens is your problems. 535 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: Become greater in your capacity. 536 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: But as you increase your capacity, now your capacity allows 537 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: you to handle your problems. And I can tell you 538 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 3: the more I have prayed over the years, the more 539 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 3: connected I have become, the more healed I have become. 540 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 3: So now I lead from a place of strength, of 541 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: unity and integrity. Integrity comes from the word integer, whole 542 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 3: and complete. So when you're connecting to God and experiencing 543 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: that oneness with Him, there's now a power, there's a wholeness, 544 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: a completeness which gives the confidence and the courage. When 545 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: there's a separation and a disconnection, you now feel weak 546 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: and powerless. There's a disintegration that happens in your brain, 547 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 3: in your soul, and then you experience it in your life. 548 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: So now it looks like to you, the world has 549 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: power over you when you're disconnected. But when you are 550 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 3: connected to God, you actually know the truth and feel 551 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 3: the truth that you have the power to transform this world. 552 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: And isn't that what Jesus taught The power is inside 553 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 3: of you. Right, You're in the world, but you're not 554 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 3: of the world, and you have the power within you 555 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: to transform this world. And our job is to bring 556 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 3: heaven to earth. And the way we do that is 557 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: from the inside out our soul, our spirit, our love 558 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 3: transforms a world that is broken with anger and hate. 559 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: So love within us brings heaven to so often a 560 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 3: world that feels like. 561 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: Hell, and we transform it. Wow, that's our power. 562 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: It's powerful, you know, I know we have a few 563 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: moments left. As I was doing my Bible study this 564 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: morning on an early flight from Witchburg to Charlotte, I 565 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: was reading out of Mark chapter seven, and it was interesting. 566 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: The disciples were with Jesus and you talk about the 567 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: power of connection, and they had just witnessed him feed 568 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: the five thousand, twelve baskets of overflow. They just actually 569 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: watched him, in Mark chapter seven, feed another four thousand 570 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: seven baskets of overflow. And then they're on a boat 571 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: and they only have one basket of bread, and the 572 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: disciples are beginning to worry, like where are we going to? 573 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: Where are we going to get our food from? And 574 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: Jesus literally confronts him. He asks them like, do your 575 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: eyes not see is? Do your ears not here? And 576 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 2: then he asked them like did you already we forget 577 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: a day before what I was capable of. And when 578 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: I think about worry, it's the in a sense withholding 579 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 2: or the unwillingness to welcome Jesus in. And when we 580 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: pray and when we invite him into the midst of 581 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: our mess, you start to see his power again. John, 582 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: as we close, just one final word to the weary leader, 583 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: just a quick statement, because I know you got to 584 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: run out of here of just hope, encouragement and motivation 585 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: you want to leave him with today. 586 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: What you just said is so profound and so true. 587 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: Jesus calls us to remember, don't forget. We all know 588 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: that there's been miracles in our life. What happens we 589 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: forget those miracles. If God did it once, he will 590 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: do it again, and we lose faith on the journey 591 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: forgetting what he has done. It happened in the Israelite 592 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: with the Israelites constantly, and he would bring a miracle 593 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: about and then they'd be like, oh no, no, no, 594 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: and they would complain and they'd be all negative. It's like, 595 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: come on. God would be like, did you not see 596 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: what I already did? Same thing we forget. So I 597 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: believe the key is to remember God's provincial power, remember 598 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: his love, remember what He has already done for you. 599 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: And even if you feel like life has been challenging, 600 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: you've faced so much adversity, maybe you feel like God 601 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: has not been with you. 602 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: He has. 603 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: He's been with you in the mess because you're not destroyed, 604 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: you're still here. He has carried you through those challenges 605 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: because you're still here, and your job now is to 606 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: trust in God. So many times it's like, God, show 607 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: me and I'll trust you. Now, trust God and I'll 608 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: show you. And I really believe all of life is 609 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: really a test of faith. Jesus was constantly calling out 610 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 3: his disciples to believe and have faith. God is always 611 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: calling us to have faith. And then life will show 612 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: us times when we shouldn't have faith. And yet even 613 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: in those moments, we still need to have faith. We 614 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: still need to believe, we still need to have hope, 615 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: we still need to have optimism, and we have to 616 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 3: trust in God more than our circumstances. You have to 617 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: truly believe that God can take you through your circumstances 618 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: and He'll give you strength through it all. And that's 619 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: real faith, that's real optimism, and that's real belief. So 620 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: my hope is that people will spend more time in prayer, 621 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: more time connecting to God, more time trusting in God. 622 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: I trust in you, Lord, I trust in your plan 623 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: for my life. 624 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: Things are not going well, but I trust that you 625 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: will carry me through this. And you have this faith 626 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 3: and you have this belief, and God will deliver on 627 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: his promises. And I walk and prayer off and say, God, 628 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: I expect great things to happen. I trust in your 629 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: plan for my life. 630 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: Send me a miracle, God, I am ready for a miracle. God. 631 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: I want my daughter to meet a man who loves 632 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: honors and adores her, a man like Zach Clinton. 633 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: God, he's taken, but a man like. 634 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: Him, And I pray for that, right pray often hasn't 635 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: happened yet, but I believe, and I pray, and I 636 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 3: know it's going to take a miracle, and God is 637 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: actually gonna somehow, some way orchestrate something that only he 638 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: can do, and it's going to be so undeniable that 639 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: it's him. And I think so often we go through life, 640 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 3: ninety percent of it. What I have found is hard 641 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: and difficult and challenging. So many moments where it looks 642 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: like God is not there. Just think about the Israelites 643 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 3: going towards the Red Sea. So much it looked like 644 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 3: it wasn't going to happen. So much of my life 645 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: it didn't look like things were going to happen. And 646 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: in that last moment, though, that last moment, God's like, 647 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: I was just messing with you. Here you go, you 648 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: can partner. Now, I'll just messing with you. It turns around, 649 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: it works out, somehow, it happens. Have you experienced that, Yeah, 650 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: But there's so many times throughout our journey that we 651 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: are forced to confront our own disbelief, our own lack 652 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: of faith, and it's all design to move us towards 653 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: oneness and wholeness and connection and faith. So in the summary, 654 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: you can live disconnected or connected. You can live and worry, 655 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: chronic fear, chronic stress, or you can live in oneness 656 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 3: and wholeness, connection, power, courage, and confidence. And that is 657 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: how you're meant to go through life. You're not meant 658 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: to go through life fearful and worried. You're meant to 659 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: go through life with power, not on your own, but 660 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 3: connected to God and his power. And as you do, 661 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: he will give you the power. He will give you 662 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: the strength to go through everything you're going through to 663 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: ultimately overcome to become the hero that you're meant to 664 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: be who impacts the lives of others. 665 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: And again, if you're not impacting others, then you're not 666 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: really a hero. 667 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: Like if you're a hero in your own story but 668 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: you're not a hero in someone else's story, you're not 669 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: a hero. You're actually a narcissist. A real hero is 670 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: a hero, yes, in their own story, because we all 671 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 3: should be. 672 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: But we're changing the lives and impacting the. 673 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: World and a positive life, and that is what God 674 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: has called us to do. 675 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: John Gordon. 676 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: Every time I sit down with you, my friend, I 677 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: become a bigger fan and I just leave a better man. 678 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: So thank you so much for your time today. Where 679 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: can our audience go to find out more about you? 680 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: Pick up one of your thirty two books and pre 681 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: order your thirty third The Power of Positivestday. 682 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Where can they go? 683 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: They go to John Gordon dot com, j on Gordon 684 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: dot com or find me on Instagram at j on 685 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: Gordon eleven. If you listen to this, please reach out 686 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 3: to me, DM me and say hello. 687 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: I love people. 688 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: I'd love to hear from you and I can if 689 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 3: I can ever encourage you in any way. 690 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: Yes, reach out to me and I'd love to encourage you. 691 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: You'll find me on x on LinkedIn all those places 692 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 3: and books are sold throughout bookstores everywhere. 693 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 1: John, You're a blessing. Thank you so much. I love 694 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: and appreciate you, sir, Love you too to. 695 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: All of our audience built different, Thank you so much 696 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: for tuning in. I hope and pray this has blessed 697 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: your life as much as it has mine. We love 698 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: being a part of your life,