1 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: to the Aaron Mullins Show. It is so great to 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: have your company. Whereever you are around the world. You 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: know the deal by now. We appreciate you, we love you, 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: and we thank you for choosing to spend some of 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: your very valuable time here with us. 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Now make 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: sure you also check out my interview with Colin Plume, 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: who started Noble Gold Investment, so you can. 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: Actually get to know the man behind the company. 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: So Ran Gavilli, the last remaining hostage in Gaza is home. 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: We've seen all these clips of the President of Israel, 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: the ambassador, my Kakabee, different people taking off the yellow 44 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: hostage pits. For the first time since twenty fourteen, there 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: is now not a hostage living or dead from Israel 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: in Gaza. 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: That's a huge deal. 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: Think about the lengths that Israel went to get this 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: one body home, and yes, it's someone's world, absolutely, but 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: there are not many nations in the world that would 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: go to the lengths that Israel always do. 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: Look at the reaction of the soldiers who found him. 53 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: They shed tears because they know what this means, not 54 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: just to his immediate family, who of course have been 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: fighting for this for so long, but for their nation, 56 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: for Jews around the world. This is an element of 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: closure for them. And then you look at the other side, 58 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: the terrorists. 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: You think they'd go to this kind of effort, Oh, 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: they do. 61 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: They go to this kind of effort to kill and 62 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: destroy not just their enemy, but their own people as well, 63 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: their own children if they think it might hurt their enemy, 64 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: but to bring the body or something of someone they 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: love home. 66 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: Never, they don't care. 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: They don't value what we value completely different. It's a 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: very simple way of looking at which side you should be, 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: on the side of good or the side of evil. 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: It's really not that complex. 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: I met his parents, Sergeant Rand's parents a couple of 72 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: weeks ago, in Florida, and you know, again so stoic, 73 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: so incredible, but you look into their eyes and they 74 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: look dead inside, and you can understand that I hope, 75 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: I hope today brings them some life. 76 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: I really does. 77 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: His father has spoken since getting the coffin with his 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: son's body back, and he said words to the effect of, 79 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. The police are with you, 80 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: the armies with you. You should see all of this, 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: all of this for you, m. 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 4: Gat. 83 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 5: I've left show with the shap bait and can you imagine? 84 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: Can you imagine. 85 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: Again that anyone's son should be coming home from anywhere 86 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: in a body bag? Is tragic and heartbreaking. But this 87 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: is the value that Israel puts upon its people and 88 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: why they will never and why they should never hold 89 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: back when it comes to protecting them, because that is 90 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: their job, that is their duty, and it is the 91 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: right of every citizen there to know that their government, 92 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: their military, their people will go to any length possible 93 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: to bring them back. Of course, there is a downside 94 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: to that, because it shows those who wish Israel harm 95 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: the value of taking people because of how much Isral 96 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: values them. And that's a conversation for another day and 97 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: we will have that conversation. We've had that conversation. It's 98 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: a really tough one, a really tough one, but it's 99 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: a conversation that needs to be had as well. It 100 00:05:54,040 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: desperately needs to be had or the cycle will continue. 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: And who loses in that cycle? Who loses? 102 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: Now back on. 103 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: American soil and Donald Trump has put out a truth 104 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: post social letting everyone know that he's spoken to Minnesota 105 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: Governor Tim Waltz. Of course, this is off the back 106 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: of Waltz comparing ice cleaning pedophiles off the street with 107 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: the plight of Ann Frank during the Holocaust. Absolutely despicable, disgusting, 108 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: every word you can think of. 109 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: That is negative. Throw it in there. It's relevant. 110 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: But of course Trump, as he always does, he did 111 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: the same thing with Mum Danny said he had a 112 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: great conversation, etc. 113 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: Etc. 114 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 6: Etc. 115 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: Look, it looks like. 116 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: Trump is being the bigger man here and looking to 117 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: just take a little bit of the heat out of 118 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: the situation. Well, I mean, which is an ironic word 119 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: given the snow and ice storms at the moment, but 120 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: that needs to happen, and it's never going to happen. 121 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: On the behalf of these paid protesters. They're not protesters, agitators. 122 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: It's never going to happen from the Democrats because they 123 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: are pathetic and all they want to do is cause 124 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: division and create chaos because it benefits them and it's 125 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: a distraction. So it looks like Donald Trump is, you know, 126 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: doing something now to just take the heat out. Tom 127 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Holman is heading in. That's been announced as well. He's 128 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: going into Minnesota. We haven't seen a lot of him lately. 129 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: Remember at the start, he was always around, he was 130 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: always talking. He was a real face of this thing, 131 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: and then Christi Nome kind of became that face. 132 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: Well, old apple man. 133 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: He's heading back in, and anyone who can handle well 134 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: idiots like this, I think is the man for the job. 135 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite Holman moments. Have a look, 136 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: and I wonder how Christy Nome feels about this. It's fascinating, 137 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean, she does a really good job. 138 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: The press conference, I thought straight afterwards and I watched 139 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: it in its entirety was interesting in that she was 140 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: answering definitively things I don't think they could have really 141 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: known at that stage. And that is dangerous. I mean, 142 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm all for backing your people. I am all for 143 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: having a strongline. But if you don't know, it's okay 144 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: to say to the media that you don't know yet, 145 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: or that you're not sure, or that an investigation is coming. 146 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: It's far better to say that, and you can still 147 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: say we support our men and women on the ground. 148 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: But it's okay if you don't know the specific details. 149 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: Something's just happened, someone's been killed. It's a lot you're 150 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: allowed to say, I'm going to wait for that information. 151 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: I don't have that detail yet. You know, we're finding 152 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: that out. We'll get back to you. It's okay to 153 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: say that, and you need to when you're in that position. 154 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: Being able to handle media and intensity and the aftermath 155 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: of something like that is a big part of your job, 156 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: and you cannot be saying things that you're not entirely 157 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: sure of that will then be repeated everywhere if it 158 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: turns out not to be entirely the case, because then 159 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: it hurts you, it hurts the Trump administration, it hurts. 160 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: The ICE officers. 161 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: So it's really interesting that Dynamic will watch with interest, 162 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: But again, paid agitators trying to create chaos and stop 163 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: ICE from arresting child abusers. 164 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: That needs to stop. That needs to stop entirely. 165 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Yes, there's a right to protest, we all get that, 166 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: But to impede on law enforcement when they are already 167 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: under so much pressure where they are being attacked from 168 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: every angle, when you are armed with a weapon. 169 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 170 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: You can't do it. No one wants anyone to die. 171 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: It is horrific, it is tragic. But you cannot impede 172 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: law enforcement officers when you are armed and it is 173 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: a heightened situation. 174 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: You just can't do it. You can't do it. 175 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: A side note to this clown show that has been 176 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: spearheaded and encouraged and led by Waltz and his group 177 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: of merry men, the Islamic regime of Iran has entered 178 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: this debate on ICE. 179 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: I kid you not. 180 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: A spokesperson for the Foreign Ministry has come out and 181 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: condemned the handling by US law enforcement, saying that they 182 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: are violating human rights. I'm trying to figure out what 183 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: goes on inside the heads of these people, and look, 184 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: I have to assume that there are. 185 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: Brains in there. I'm not sure. 186 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: I haven't seen medical evidence, but I assume there are, 187 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: because even to be evil, if you're really good at 188 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: being evil, you've got to have somewhat of a brain. 189 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: So they obviously know how ridiculous that statement is, given 190 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: they've just killed tens of thousands of their own people intentionally, 191 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: unarmed people, intentionally. So then I move on to, Okay, 192 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: they trying to be funny? Are they being cheeky, They're 193 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: trying to be clever? Is this a game to them 194 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: which makes them all the more sick? But you expect 195 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: nothing better from them at all. 196 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: Do you? 197 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: And then I wonder do they actually maybe think that 198 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: what they are doing is right and the rest of 199 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: the world is wrong? Is there some way that the 200 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: ideology has completely taken over every essence of their being 201 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: that they seriously look at what they are doing in 202 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: around two protests and think, yeah, we're helping this is 203 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: a good thing for humanity. 204 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: No, of course not. 205 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: They are evil sacks of beep who are just trying 206 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: to antagonize and look normally, they do it through their 207 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: proxies and through other people, and through their bots and 208 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: through funding via Qatar and other entities. But I mean 209 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: doing it directly is cute also as well, as completely 210 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: pathetic and it should be entirely ignored. But just to 211 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: show you the depth of depravity that we are dealing 212 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: with with this Islamic regime, I now want to bring 213 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: you my conversation with David Kaufman, who is in New 214 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: York right now in the snowstorm and has an insanely 215 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: good take on what is. 216 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: Going on in America right now. 217 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: Double standards is a phrase you will hear multiple times 218 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: during this conversation, and at almost every single junction in it, 219 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: you will go. 220 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, he's brilliant. 221 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: Enjoy David Kaufman. 222 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: It is such a pleasure to have you on, And 223 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: to be honest, it's not like you had a vast 224 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: array of choices of other things to do right now, 225 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: given you're stuck inside in the snowstorm. But that aside, 226 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure you would have chosen the Aaron Mullins show anyway. 227 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 6: Absolutely so. 228 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: It's been snowing for I think ten hours now is 229 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 4: going to snow for ten hours. I ran our first 230 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: thing to do my little exercise, but I'm here. Nobody's 231 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: going anywhere. 232 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: You're good, aren't you? I mean exercise in New York? 233 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: You're not too afraid, given your new mayor doesn't keep 234 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: you inside in the fetal position in the corner. 235 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: I think we need to be as strong as possible 236 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 4: for our new mayor. But he's on the case with 237 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 4: this storm, he's looking after us. 238 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 6: We'll be just fine. Haha. I don't love that. 239 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 4: I think we need to be as strong as we've 240 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 4: never needed to be, more fit or stronger with this 241 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 4: new mayor. Clearly the folks aligned with him are not 242 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: aligned with us. 243 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: It's so interesting. 244 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: There was so much talk in the build up, and 245 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: we've seen kind of bits and pieces, you know, his 246 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: skits with Miss Rachel that are just utterly ridiculous and, 247 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: to be honest, look like a doctrination of children more 248 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: than some fun little social media skit. But what has 249 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: life been like under him? And I guess it takes 250 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: time for people to see changes, doesn't it. 251 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 252 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: I actually think things are worse than we could have imagined. 253 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 4: I think there was hope that once the mayor was elected, 254 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 4: he would temper down his rhetoric, that he would sort 255 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: of adjust to sort of the nuances of what it 256 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: means to leave New York City. But what you're seeing 257 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: in many ways from the moment he was elected, through 258 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: inauguration and now now to the first month, is he's 259 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: really doubled down on his worldview, on his extremely antizionistic view, 260 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 4: on his antagonizing of Jewish groups, on his inability to 261 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: really ensure that Jews in New York City. I guess 262 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: Jews all over America, but particularly New York City exists 263 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: with a true sense of safety and confidence in city 264 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: Hall to look after us. You know, what the mayor 265 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: has done for the first time ever, is there's really 266 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: been a formalization, if not institutionalization of his anti Zionistic 267 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 4: worldview and the trickle down effect that that has with 268 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: anti Semitism, and of course uh protests and and and 269 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: riots and the mobs who have you know, gone. 270 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 6: Through the streets of New York attacking Jews. 271 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: So I think despite his you know, performative surface effort 272 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: efforts to you know, make Jews feel safer, I think 273 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: many Jews actually feel far less safe. 274 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: I think you make such a key point there when 275 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: you say the kind of formalization of it. You know, 276 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: there have been people throughout history and in recent times 277 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: that have had feelings that have been quite frankly awful, 278 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: but there's been pressure on them not to share them 279 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: that there's been a societal expectation that they would never 280 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: be said out loud or let alone institutionalized or formalized. 281 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: This mayor is making it normal to treat Jewish people, 282 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: and to be honest, all of us who believe in 283 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: Western civilization democracy, you know, the basics unsafe and unwelcome. 284 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: It's not that he's normalizing. He's almost daring people. There's 285 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: a brazeness to it, there's an arrogance to it. I mean, 286 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 4: you know, the mayor has refused to condemn free like 287 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: globalized the Fada. 288 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 6: He's been careful to say that he personally wouldn't use. 289 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: Those kinds of phrases, but is he is not actually 290 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: decried or denounced that phrase. Now, I don't have to 291 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: tell you in Australia what globalizing ni fada looks like. 292 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 6: It looks like a five year old. 293 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: Girl named Matilda a gun down on a beach in 294 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: Sydney along with fourteen other Jews. That is what globalized 295 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: the anti Fada looks like. And that is why folks 296 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 4: are so irate that he refuses to condemn it. Just 297 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: like he's sort of skirts around, condemning hamas he hangs 298 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 4: out with, you know, known supporters of religious fundamentalism and 299 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 4: violent anti Zionism like Maku Khalil and Hassan Piker. 300 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 6: I mean he is, he's you know, kind of. 301 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: Just you know, almost it's almost like an official fu 302 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 4: to his critics. He's basically saying, I will do what 303 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 4: I want. And it's similar to in a way to 304 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: Donald Trump in a sense that you know, folks are 305 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 4: on the left are very critical of Donald Trump, particularly 306 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: right now because what's been. 307 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 6: Happening in Minnesota. 308 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 4: But if you really look at what Donald Trump has 309 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 4: done since he's gone into office, He's done exactly what 310 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: he said he's. 311 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 6: Going to do. 312 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: There's no surprises, you know, whether it's DEI or immigration 313 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 4: or Ukraine. And and Mamdannie is exactly the same way. 314 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 4: The only constant of his ideological evolution from university to 315 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 4: the mayor's residence the city Hall has been an obsession 316 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 4: with Israel and an entrenched, ingrained, aggressive, adversarial an anti 317 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 4: Zionism and anti Israelism. And that is what he has, 318 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 4: you know, as that's a rhetoric that he has brought 319 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: to city Hall. Those are the folks he surrounded himself with. 320 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: He's of course weaponized race and brought in all of 321 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 4: these folks to sort of you know pit you know, 322 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 4: white people against black people, talk about white supremacy, all 323 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 4: of the buzzwords. Interestingly enough, the only folks using this 324 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: like racialized language against white people are actually are mostly 325 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 4: actually white people. Which is what's so canny and tricky 326 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 4: about the Left is that they deploy white people to 327 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: bash other white people, knowing that nobody else will. 328 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: Say anything that's exactly, we'll can't be racist because she's white. 329 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: She's white too. 330 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: The point you made about Bondai and the kind of 331 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: from hate speech and whipping up this again, you know, 332 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: normalization of hate and delegitimizing Jewish people and Israel and 333 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: all the lies that go along with that, eventuating in 334 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: a mass slaughter of people. You mentioned the fourteen others, 335 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: one of them wasn't Jewish, And I think this is 336 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: the point that I always tried. I mean, it was 337 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: a Jewish event aimed at Jewish people. But what I 338 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: try and say, because so many people say to me, 339 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: you're not Jewish, why do you care so much? Like, 340 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, I get it it's really sad, but like 341 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: it's so weird. And I say to them, you know, 342 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: when they're driving a car into a Christmas market, they're 343 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: not checking whether you're wearing a Star of David or 344 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: a cross. They want to kill and destroy everyone. They 345 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: might be aiming at Jews initially, or that might give 346 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: them a little extra buzz, they don't care. This guy 347 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: was walking along the beach with his wife. He was 348 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: not Jewish. 349 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: He got killed. 350 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: So I say to people, the same as people in 351 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: New York. You might think, oh, I'm not Jewish, it's 352 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: not really my problem won't impact me. 353 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: No, it will, and it does. 354 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: Everyone is impacted when this kind of hatred exists and 355 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: is allowed to fester. 356 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 4: And what's so interesting is that in this whole debate 357 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: around Zoramm Dannie, you know what I always latch onto, 358 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: and this has been sort of a subtext of this 359 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: entire post October seventh moment, is the double standard that 360 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: Jews are enduring today, the double standard of you know, 361 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: I say this as somebody who's Jewish and African Americans, 362 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: So I see how this works with black people. 363 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 6: If I was a black person, Well, I am. 364 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: A black person, but if I were to say, as 365 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: a black person, I'm. 366 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 6: Experiencing racism, immediately in. 367 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: This country, everybody would rush to believe me, to support me, 368 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: to ask me how I'm feeling, and affirm me, because 369 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: that's how the system works. 370 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 6: You know, you believe. 371 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: Minorities because they say they've experienced this, they've experienced this. 372 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 6: But oh, the double standard. 373 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: Is that only Jews have to justify, explain, prove that 374 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 4: they're enduring this, this this discrimination, and they're blamed for it. 375 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 6: That's the irony. And what's interesting is. 376 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 4: That that double standard that is the anti semitism. That 377 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: double standard is the anti Semitism. That's exactly what Mumdanni 378 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: is operating off of. And like what you say so 379 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: perfectly is that the double standard today applies to Jews, 380 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 4: but it could. 381 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 6: Easily tomorrow apply to somebody else. 382 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 4: And that's why this existence of this double standard is 383 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 4: so scary and it needs to be combated because for 384 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 4: today it's Jews, but it could be anybody in America 385 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: one day, around around the world. 386 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: And you look at it, particularly that double standard, and 387 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: it was no more evident when it came to women 388 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: on October seven and raging feminists in Australia, who again, 389 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: I use this analogy. 390 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: All the time. 391 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: But you know, a woman would be in the kitchen 392 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: in her office at morning tea and a man would say, oh, 393 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: that's a lovely skirt. 394 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: Yes, you sexual deviant, how dare you? 395 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: And ten women would come and support her, and hate 396 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: be set and they'd be, you know, on the news 397 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: saying this kind of you know, reducing us to how 398 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: we look at cetera, et cetera. Fine women raped in 399 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: October seven, No as resistance showed me evidence it didn't 400 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: happen to like it is insane how they were able 401 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: to stay silent and still you know, look people in 402 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: the eye, the feminists of the world because they were Jewish. 403 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 6: Believe women except for Jewish women. 404 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: And I also have a sort of another analogy like 405 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 4: and look at you know, we recently celebrated the Martin 406 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 4: Luther King holiday in. 407 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: You write a great piece on this, a brilliant piece, and. 408 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 4: You know, I look at the way in which you know, 409 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: the pro Palestinian, the pro Palestinian you know movement was 410 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 4: out in full force, you know, trying to like latch 411 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: on to this holiday, latch onto the Black civil rights struggle. 412 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: I mean, the pro Palestinian movement has been incredibly effective 413 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 4: at latching onto every movement, the Gate, the Gate, Pricial Palestine, 414 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 4: the feminists, and then they've really, you know, they really 415 00:21:54,760 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 4: targeted the African American history last week with the MLK holiday, 416 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 4: and I think to myself, you know how much that 417 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: offends me as somebody who's African America. 418 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 6: I mean my own father and aunt. 419 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: Okay, so I found my brand new obsession and all 420 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: the other things that I was obsessed with. 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You know, what made 448 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 4: the Black civil rights movement and what made the anti 449 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 4: apartheid movement so potent and powerful was that it was 450 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: almost entirely a non violent movement. Will contrast that to 451 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: the probe, to the Palestinian movement for liberation, and it's 452 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 4: all about violence. So what they've done is they've been 453 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 4: able to weaponize you know, identity politics, intersectionality, and to 454 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: turn it into an entirely different story to sort of 455 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: fit their their craven narrative. And the problem with America 456 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: is that we're so strangle held by identity politics, by 457 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 4: the fact being canceled by the threat of being called racist, 458 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: that you know sensible. I always like to say woke 459 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 4: culture thrives when perfectly reasonable people ignore. 460 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 6: Their best interests. And it's a perfect example where we 461 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 6: all know this is not true. 462 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 4: We all know that this lie is being allowed to 463 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 4: fester in our society, but people are too afraid of 464 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: being canceled to stand up and say anything, and hence 465 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 4: the lie lies continue, and that is their most portant weapon, 466 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 4: is our own timidity. 467 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely nailed it there, and along the lines of what 468 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: doctor gard Sad talks about with the suicidal empathy. Now, 469 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: I'm going to make a gross assumption here, and you 470 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: can tell me to sot off if it's not true. 471 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: Did you once find yourself more towards the left? 472 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 4: I mean, I would not say I've always been a 473 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 4: registered independent. 474 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 6: You know, I grew up in California. 475 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 4: I've never really, I've never really bought the Democratic you 476 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 4: know load of whatever, and I never I never bought 477 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 4: the Republican load or whatever. I think for me, you know, 478 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 4: being someone like me who is a lot has a 479 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 4: lot of different identity since had a lot of different 480 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: vehicles and access to different communities and sort of seeing, 481 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 4: you know, what the Jewish people really think, what the 482 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 4: Black people really think. 483 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: I'm also gay people really think. You know. 484 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 4: I've come to these this this sort of political existence 485 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: with a lot of skepticism and a lot of question 486 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: and I really don't believe, you know, any sort of 487 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: surface level you know crap. To be honest with you, 488 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: I think my sort of evolution from the left has 489 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: always been about the fact that so, I mean, this 490 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 4: is what kind of activated me so much post October 491 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 4: seventh was I saw all of these you know, identity 492 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 4: groups that supposedly I am part of African Americans LGBTs, 493 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: you know, aggressively aligning themselves with you know, the gods, 494 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 4: pro Palestinian, with anti Zionism, aggressively denouncing Israel on October seventh, 495 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: while the blood was literally still flowing. 496 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 6: Who they you would. 497 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: Seem you know, So my only reaction was you people 498 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 4: do not speak for you know, you're speaking on my behalf, 499 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: but you people do not. 500 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 6: Speak for me. 501 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 4: I do not agree with this, and unlike most of you, 502 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 4: I've spent years living in Israel, you know, so I 503 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: know what Israel is actually like. I know that it 504 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 4: is not a genocidal society. I know it is not 505 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: a nation built on white colonization. I do I do 506 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 4: concede that when it comes to issues of equal rights 507 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 4: for all of its citizens, Israel, like every other nation, 508 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 4: and there's a double standard, has a way to go 509 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 4: until all of its citizens have equality. But I live 510 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 4: in the United States of America as as an African American, 511 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 4: So what I denounce my own country, you know, America? 512 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 6: Does you Again? 513 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 4: It goes back to the double standard, the double standard 514 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 4: that somehow Israel has to you know, exist in this 515 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: state of you know, ideological and political perfectionism or else 516 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 4: purism and perfectionalism, essentialism or else. You know, it's citizens 517 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 4: must be killed because that's always the endy result, you know, 518 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 4: when you get there. So I think this seeing I've 519 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 4: always been skeptical of, uh, you know, the myth of 520 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: identity politics, and I've I've also seen how it doesn't 521 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 4: really work. It hasn't really worked in my family, it 522 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: hasn't really worked in America in many ways. 523 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: You know. 524 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 4: I've been at times at times, you know, a minority 525 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 4: higher and I didn't do very well in that job. 526 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 4: It wasn't a great fit for me. You know, ironically, 527 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 4: I actually felt in many ways much more respected as 528 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 4: a as as a you know, a person of color, 529 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 4: as a minority working for Rupert Murdoch in a more 530 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 4: conservative publication because they're on a certain level. 531 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 6: They just didn't really they weren't really interested. 532 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 4: In in in me as as a minority person. Now 533 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 4: that is not to say that they couldn't have gone 534 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: better and necessarily engaged with what that meant. But then 535 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: when I've worked for very liberal media, it's been all 536 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 4: about that. It's been you, you have to do sort 537 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 4: of model minority, and I've never been that kind of person. 538 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 6: I've never lived up to that myth. So I've always. 539 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 4: Failed in that regard, and I failed because it's fundamentally 540 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 4: based on an untruth. 541 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, look at so this is such a fascinating conversation. 542 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: As someone who also worked for Murdoch at Sky News, 543 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: it was really I've never I mean, I'm conservative when 544 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: it comes to the economy, national security, defense, I'm quite 545 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: progressive socially. 546 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: I've got a gay brother. 547 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: I was, you know, during the same sex marriage debate 548 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: here in Australia and that didn't really fit in on 549 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Sky News Australia, but it didn't matter. I was allowed 550 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: to say what I thought every single time and did so. 551 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: But you're right, it's more of those and Sky News 552 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: as well, by the way, Murdock again would constantly have 553 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: guessed and consistently have guests from the left who would 554 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: come on and engage in debate, which is far better television. 555 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: The networks who were not on, who were on the left, 556 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: would never. 557 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: Invite conservatives on. 558 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: You know that there's an openness in conservative circles that 559 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: doesn't really exist on the far left in most instances, 560 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: not always. 561 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: But in most cases. 562 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 6: I agree. 563 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I think there is on some level more 564 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: gatekeeping on the fire left and linguistic gatekeeper. 565 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 6: On the fire left. 566 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 4: And I think there's also sort of a I mean, 567 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 4: what I see among the far left today, amongst you know, 568 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: the folks who are exists in the kind of what 569 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 4: we call the progressive bubbles, I'm actually surprised at how 570 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 4: much they're doubling down under a rhetoric despite who had 571 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 4: a year now of Donald Trump saying the old order, 572 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: you know no longer exists. We're not We're not living 573 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 4: in this sort of you know, extreme d DEI existence 574 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 4: that we did that we did, ok. 575 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: Except was a perfect example with the pilots of the 576 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: bomber jets during the Twelve Day War, and you know, 577 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: he said the guys and someone said, sir, you didn't 578 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: say and the one girl who was there, and he 579 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: just said, we're actually not playing this game anymore when 580 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: and as a woman, that did not offend me in 581 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: the slidest I went, there are more important things to 582 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: talk about that they're not playing that game. 583 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. 584 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously that the administration, you know, needs to 585 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: acknowledge the fact that, you know, racism and sexism and 586 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: things like that still exists. 587 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 6: We don't live in a perfect society. 588 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: But I do see that, you know, despite all of 589 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: this shift in in the rhetoric coming from the top, 590 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 4: what I do see is that the extreme left and 591 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 4: you know what we call it, the extreme progressives, are 592 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: actually doubling down. They're more invested in this than ever, 593 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: and they're going to fight, you know, nail and tooth 594 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: to maintain. 595 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 6: This world order because it's worked very well for them. 596 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 4: I mean, there's been a there's a lot of money 597 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 4: and a lot of you know, prestige and a lot 598 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 4: of elite access and in sort of mimicking and parading 599 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: amongst you leftists, amongst whatever all the other leftists are saying. 600 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 6: And it's a very sort of easy narrative. It's it's 601 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 6: very easy to sort. 602 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 4: Of produce everything to race and gender and sexual orientation, 603 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: particularly if none of those things directly apply to you, 604 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 4: which is what's. 605 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 6: The irony is that so many of those folks who. 606 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: Are leading these conversations are just boring, regular white people 607 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: who have. 608 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 3: What do they call them sis or straight or whatever. 609 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 6: It is. 610 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: Like I say about my brother being gay is the 611 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: least interesting thing about him, the least interesting. He's a pilot, 612 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: he's the nicest person, he's fascinating. He's like to focus 613 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: and hone in on that. And that's what the left 614 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: to consistently is. It's boring. 615 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 4: It's boring, but it's worked, it's worked very very it's effective, 616 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 4: and there's a lot of money in it. And I 617 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: think we really don't acknowledge, you know, the whole kind 618 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 4: of you know, identity industrial complex that exists in America, 619 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: and it's exceedingly well funded and there's a lot, and. 620 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 6: It's also it's also feel good and it's easy, and 621 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 6: in some ways, of course it is necessary. 622 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 4: I mean, America does have work to do in terms of, 623 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 4: you know, uh, ensuring we have this ideal siety that 624 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 4: the founders you know, charted out for us. But but 625 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: I do think that, like you know this, this cohort 626 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 4: is going to fight to the death to maintain their 627 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 4: their status and they're. 628 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 6: Not going to let it go easily. 629 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 4: The problem is that they've come up against Donald Trump 630 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 4: and he's a formidable foe. 631 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. I want to finish in 632 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: a couple of ways. First of all, to ask you 633 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: about the situation in Iran and the complete lack of 634 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: care from again those who mobilized intensely off the back 635 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: of October seven, not for the victims of the world's 636 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: largest loss of Jewish life since the Holocaust, of course, 637 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: but for the perpetrators. But that aside still mobilized and 638 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: complete cricket silence the Golden Globes, not even not even 639 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: one person. Just I mean, it ticks every box. Like 640 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: the feminist movement, human rights people looking for freedom. You 641 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: must just again the double standards. Not a strong enough 642 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: kind of description, is it. 643 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 4: It's it's appalling, it's well, I also think it's just 644 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 4: sort of emblematic of everything that's wrong with the culture 645 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 4: in general. 646 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 6: I mean Iran, I mean, Israel is a. 647 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 4: Very complex narrative and story to tell, and Iran is actually, 648 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 4: in many ways. 649 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 6: Far more complex. 650 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 4: Its a culture that's existed for thousands of years, that had, 651 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: you know, an unbroken monarchy over for over millennia. It's 652 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: a country that had you know, complex relationships with the 653 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 4: WA with Israel before the eye totalists took to control. 654 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 4: It's a country that, you know, what is was whether 655 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 4: the largest oil producers and has you know, fast resources 656 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: of oil. But of course, you know, it's all been 657 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: reduced to this sort of narrative of you know, post colonial. 658 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 6: Theory, like you know, they're we're all they're all after 659 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 6: the oil. 660 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 4: Well you know, perhaps they perhaps there is you know, 661 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: interest in making sure the oil doesn't wind up in Iran, sorry, 662 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 4: it doesn't wind up in China and Russia. But don't forget, 663 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 4: America has been oil independent oil self since the Obama years. 664 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 4: I mean, we're not invading Iran to get the oil 665 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: and that's you know something that that you know, folks 666 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 4: on the left have parrodid incessantly. Why the silence It 667 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: goes back to why the silence on everything right now 668 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 4: is because the powers that be in Nigeria exactly you know, uh, 669 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 4: of course you know uh uh uh Jews use around 670 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 4: the world, but of course also you know the actual 671 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: legitimate suffering of Palestinians under Hamas. 672 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 6: You know, why, you know the silence. 673 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 4: Around that is because the gatekeepers of the dominant narratives, 674 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: you know, the progressive leftist media haven't really demanded it. 675 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 4: You know, where where has been the article on the 676 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 4: front page of the New York Times saying where are 677 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 4: the protesters? Where has been the off ed saying that 678 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 4: where has been the leadership of the major media in 679 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: the US and across the Western world saying this is 680 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 4: a failure of our collective will. Nobody has demanded it 681 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 4: of these people, and hence they're not rising to the occasion. 682 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 6: Where was? Where was? 683 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 4: Where was the media after the Golden Globs last week 684 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 4: saying why weren't that Why weren't the celebs of wearing pins, 685 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 4: you know, to show to show their support of Iran 686 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 4: when there was so much. 687 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: I said it very loudly, but not mainstream media, right. 688 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: And while there was so much press about who was 689 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 4: wearing what when it came to Israel and Gaza, where 690 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 4: where is the NAACP coming out the main in US 691 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 4: intervention in Iran, even though they demanded US intervention in Israel. 692 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 6: So I mean you. 693 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 4: Could say that, yes, there is there is the difference 694 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 4: that you know, the US does actively fund Israel. The 695 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 4: US has been you know, lead ally of Israel for 696 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 4: decades and decades, but fundamentally this is a human rights issue, 697 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 4: and and you know, the entire pro Palestine movement has 698 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 4: been anchored around this idea of human rights for the 699 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: Palestinian So of course, you know, I mean it's a 700 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 4: cliche to say, you know, no Jews, no news, but 701 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 4: you know, look at the. 702 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: Facts, and you know, it would also force them to 703 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: confront that the same enemy in Iran who is slaughtering 704 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: innocent people in the tens of thousands, the same one 705 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: essentially behind the pro Palestinian movement. 706 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: It would force them to confront. 707 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: An evil that a lot of them, some of them knowingly, 708 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: a lot of them unknowingly, have put their weight behind. 709 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 4: Well iran Is has been the biggest benefactor of Hamaster. 710 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 4: Who Jesus the triple Ah. So you know so and 711 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 4: it also like really, I mean as you said, it would, 712 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 4: it would, it would, it would demand that they confront 713 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: their own hypocrisy. I mean, as you said, look at 714 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 4: Masa Amini, you know, a couple of years ago. I mean, 715 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 4: you know who could be who is more brave in 716 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 4: this moment than a young Iranian women woman tearing off 717 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 4: her headscarf and confronting you know, the religious religious authorities 718 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: in Tehran. There is no better example of the nobility 719 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 4: of human spirit and the bravery you know of these 720 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 4: young of these young people, men and women, but especially 721 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 4: women because they have suffered even more under the under 722 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 4: the stranglehold of the of the molas. So you know, 723 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 4: where's Greta thumb Thumberg, like you know, taking her float. 724 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 6: Till it to Tehran. 725 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: I mean so again, like it's all about this goes 726 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 4: back to the double standard, back to the hypocrisy. That's 727 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 4: what I call the great lie. And you know we 728 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: in America, I mean we we kind. 729 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 6: Of love our great lives. That's how we've kind of. 730 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 4: Propelled our society all these years, and and the lie 731 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 4: that we are truly, you know, a progressive and liberal, 732 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 4: equal nation for everybody. 733 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 6: It's just not true. You know, it's not true if 734 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 6: you're an ethnic minority, one cipher. It's also not. 735 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 4: True if you are a freedom fighter fighting for a revolution. 736 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 6: That's somehow the woke West doesn't deem worthy worthy. 737 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: The other thing that about the Golden Globes that I found, 738 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean not surprising, was it was completely unsurprising Amle 739 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: Clooney off the back of literally a week before her 740 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: husband announcing that she worked with the Muslim Brotherhood, a 741 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: designated terrorist organization in multiple countries around the world, including 742 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: Muslim Nations, a country in which it was founded at 743 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: the Golden Globes, and not one journalist. 744 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: Thought to approach her and put her on the spot. 745 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if that had been someone talking about 746 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: a neo Nazi group or some big celebrity saying, well, 747 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: my wife, you know, Cindy was doing some you know, 748 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: pro bono work for the Nazis the other day they 749 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: would have been she would have been habited. Not a word, 750 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: not a nobody even thought to even Amala, is this 751 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: an and don't tell me they didn't have access, so 752 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 1: they couldn't they reach everyone they can reach it, they 753 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: did not care. 754 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 6: Again. 755 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 4: You know, these are the same folks who are always out, 756 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 4: you know, championing the dispossessed and championing the poor people, 757 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 4: championing black and brown people. But really all they care 758 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 4: about is maintaining their elite status and privilege in this. 759 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 6: Moral superiod in which they are, you know, at the top. 760 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 4: That's all they really care about because that's what you know, 761 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 4: feeds their ego, it feeds their bank account, it allows. 762 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 6: Him to exist in this sort of you know, gilded existence. 763 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 4: It's all about maintaining their status, privilege, and elitism, even 764 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 4: though those are all the things they say they're fighting against. 765 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 4: I mean, one great example is that, you know, mom, Donnie, 766 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 4: when he applied to college, as we learned last summer, 767 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 4: he applied, you know, despite the fact he has this 768 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 4: famous movie star mother and a famous professor father, and 769 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 4: grew out and went to a fancy private school and 770 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 4: grew up in a million dollar, multimillion dollar. 771 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 6: Loft in Chelsea. You know, he applied to college. 772 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 4: All that privilege and access, he still applied to college 773 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 4: pretending to be an African American and a black person saying, 774 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 4: as an actual black person, I find that incredibly offensive. 775 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 6: But absolutely. 776 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 4: Oh what's the worst part about it is that had 777 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 4: he been white, let alone Jewish during the started. 778 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 6: But had he been white, his campaign would have been 779 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 6: over the next days. 780 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 7: True and instead to the New York Times, The New 781 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 7: York Times, what a story, and the headline literally said, 782 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 7: Zora Mundani applied to college as an African American? 783 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 4: Should it matter? And right there they're saying it might. 784 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 4: Right there they were shutting down the conversation. Whereas had 785 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 4: he been white, again you talk Jewish, it would have 786 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 4: been the only thing that mattered. 787 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 6: And that's the hipocapy asolutely, that's the lie. 788 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: There's no stronger way to win this. David, you are amazing. 789 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so so much for joining me here on 790 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: the Aaron Mullin Show. I'm so grateful for your time. 791 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: And stay safe in this storm. 792 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 3: You've got two kids? Are you outside making snowman? Like, 793 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 3: what do you do? We didn't have. 794 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 4: Dad number two And I've been I've been just doing 795 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 4: work and just you know there, everybody's fine. 796 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 6: Everybody's fine. Lots of food, lots of lots and lots 797 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 6: of Lextion video games and lots of YouTube. 798 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: Everything's good, lots of the Aaron Mullen Show as a 799 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: family sitting around Ladend. 800 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Jared, Thank you well. 801 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Thank you so much for tuning in. 802 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 2: We hope you enjoyed the show. Make sure you share. 803 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 6: I've got a run. 804 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm heading to the airport to head to Washington for 805 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: the premiere of Milania. 806 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 3: Love you All. 807 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's episode will be with her chief advisor and he 808 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: goes deep by the way the revelations, particularly regarding her 809 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: and President Trump. Cannot wait for you to watch this interview. 810 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: We'll see you then, Love you all.