1
00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,480
Speaker 1: Even Grace America. I'm Hugh Hewitt in Studio West, the

2
00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,000
Speaker 1: relief actor of Studio West. If you're watching on the

3
00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,280
Speaker 1: Salem News Channel, if you're listening on the Salem Radio

4
00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,200
Speaker 1: Network or one of the great radio affiliates, welcome. Got

5
00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,600
Speaker 1: a lot coming up after the break. Danny Plucket joins

6
00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,120
Speaker 1: me from the American Enterprise Institute. Also have on one

7
00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,919
Speaker 1: of the Senate candidates, Tom Wyler. I'm going to cover

8
00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,040
Speaker 1: all three of the Senate candidates on the Republican side

9
00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,520
Speaker 1: over the course of the next few weeks, starting with

10
00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,159
Speaker 1: Tom Wiler in Minnesota, but I want to talk to

11
00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,840
Speaker 1: them because Minnesota is so much in the news. Also

12
00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,320
Speaker 1: going to talk with Admiral Mark Montgomery later in the

13
00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,720
Speaker 1: program about what assets are available to the president. He

14
00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,360
Speaker 1: has made a couple of social media posts today that

15
00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,559
Speaker 1: are pretty indicative of his intention to be very serious

16
00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,920
Speaker 1: with the mulas and the iotols had better be paying

17
00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,400
Speaker 1: attention because President Trump is not messing around. Here's what

18
00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,040
Speaker 1: he said it to Des Moines rally yesterday, cut number one.

19
00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,240
Speaker 2: About a month away from having a nuclear weapon. We

20
00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,440
Speaker 2: had to do it.

21
00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,320
Speaker 1: And yes, and by the way, there's another beautiful Armada

22
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,280
Speaker 1: floating beautifully.

23
00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:11,360
Speaker 3: Toward Iran right now, so we'll see.

24
00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,240
Speaker 2: I hope they make a deal. I hope they make

25
00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:14,640
Speaker 2: a deal.

26
00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,480
Speaker 1: Make a deal. I don't know what it means to

27
00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,520
Speaker 1: make a deal, but Trump does. In the Senate today,

28
00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,720
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio was up testifying, as is the Secretary of

29
00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,240
Speaker 1: State's obligation, I believe, every six months before the Foreign

30
00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,760
Speaker 1: Affairs Committee. Here's how what do you had to say

31
00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,840
Speaker 1: about Iran? Cut number twenty two.

32
00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,200
Speaker 4: The baseline I want to set for everybody. The baseline

33
00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,600
Speaker 4: is this, we have thirty to forty thousand American troops

34
00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,759
Speaker 4: station across eight or nine facilities in that region. All

35
00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,320
Speaker 4: are within the reach theoretically, not theoretically, in reality, all

36
00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,360
Speaker 4: are within the reach of an array of thousands of

37
00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:54,160
Speaker 4: Iranian one way UAVs and Iranian short term ballistic missiles

38
00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,680
Speaker 4: short short range of ballistic missiles that threaten our troop presence.

39
00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,480
Speaker 4: We have to have enough force and power in the region,

40
00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,640
Speaker 4: just on a baseline, to defend against that possibility that

41
00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,520
Speaker 4: at some point, as a result of something the Iranian

42
00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,320
Speaker 4: regime decides to strike at our true presence in the region.

43
00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,960
Speaker 4: The President always reserves the preemptive defensive option in essence,

44
00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,840
Speaker 4: if we have indications that in fact they're going to

45
00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,720
Speaker 4: attack our troops in the region. To defend our personnel

46
00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,560
Speaker 4: in the region, we also have security agreements to Defense

47
00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,840
Speaker 4: of Israel, Plan and others that require us to have

48
00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,960
Speaker 4: a forced posture in the region to defend against that,

49
00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,600
Speaker 4: and so I think it's wise and prudent to have

50
00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,680
Speaker 4: a forced posture within the region that could respond and

51
00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,320
Speaker 4: potentially not necessarily what's going to happen, but if necessary,

52
00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,000
Speaker 4: preemptibly prevent the attack against thousands of American servicemen and

53
00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,320
Speaker 4: other facilities.

54
00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,359
Speaker 5: In the region and our allies.

55
00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,679
Speaker 4: I hope it doesn't come to that, but that's I

56
00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,320
Speaker 4: think what you're seeing now is the ability to posture

57
00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,880
Speaker 4: assets in the region to defend against what could be

58
00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,880
Speaker 4: an Iranian threat against our personnel. They certainly have the

59
00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,360
Speaker 4: capability to do it because they've amassed thousands and thousands

60
00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,040
Speaker 4: of ballistic missiles that they've built. Despite the fact that

61
00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,320
Speaker 4: their economies collapsing, they keep spending money up.

62
00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,639
Speaker 1: I could add they've killed thousands of Americans over the

63
00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,400
Speaker 1: last twenty years as well. The Iranians have se Jerry

64
00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,440
Speaker 1: Rubio had a good exchange with Chris Coons about Venezuela,

65
00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,680
Speaker 1: the Democrat from Delaware, smart guy, good guy Democrat, and

66
00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,200
Speaker 1: he's friends with Marco Rubio. So this is illuminating. Cut

67
00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,560
Speaker 1: Number nineteen followed. Yet it was being rehearsed.

68
00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,600
Speaker 6: If there was time to practice, there was time to consult.

69
00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,800
Speaker 6: And consulting with Congress is not just some high minded principle,

70
00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,200
Speaker 6: not some abstract thing, not a nice to have, it's

71
00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:34,920
Speaker 6: a got to have.

72
00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,920
Speaker 4: That's what we had brief Congress upon this specific mission

73
00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,240
Speaker 4: that you've talked about. One of the reasons why you

74
00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,280
Speaker 4: rehearsed it is to see if it's even feasible to

75
00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,280
Speaker 4: basically go to the president and say, is this something

76
00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,360
Speaker 4: that's even an option on the table. The truth of

77
00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,880
Speaker 4: the matter is that this not even this mission could

78
00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,800
Speaker 4: not have been brief to Congress because it wasn't even

79
00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,200
Speaker 4: in the realm of possible until very late in December,

80
00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,240
Speaker 4: when all of our efforts to negotiate with Maduro had

81
00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,520
Speaker 4: failed and the President was finally present of these options

82
00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,280
Speaker 4: that made these decisions. It was also a trigger based operation.

83
00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,680
Speaker 4: It may never have happened. It required a number of

84
00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,720
Speaker 4: factors to all align at the right place, at the

85
00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,400
Speaker 4: right time, in a very limited window, and it wasn't

86
00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,080
Speaker 4: even clear if it was ever going to be possible.

87
00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,680
Speaker 4: There's also the aspect which I do not control, and

88
00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,760
Speaker 4: that is to deference the Department of War on operational security.

89
00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,680
Speaker 4: Despite the fact that we had kept this quite constrained.

90
00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,839
Speaker 4: The truth of the matter is that this was leaked.

91
00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,479
Speaker 4: We now know it was leaked by a contractor the

92
00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,560
Speaker 4: Department of War that had it been published, would have

93
00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,080
Speaker 4: endangered the lives of people and or would have probably

94
00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,760
Speaker 4: canceled the ability to carry out the mission. So this

95
00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,400
Speaker 4: is a real tension and one that I'm doing the

96
00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,960
Speaker 4: best I can to try to manage within the constraints

97
00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,279
Speaker 4: of two things, operational security and also decisions being made.

98
00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,960
Speaker 4: There are multiple contingencies for events all over the world,

99
00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,560
Speaker 4: including some that none of us think were ever going

100
00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,599
Speaker 4: to come to fruition. And in this particular case, one

101
00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,640
Speaker 4: of the reasons why you rehearse these things and advances

102
00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,279
Speaker 4: to know whether it's even possible, is this is even

103
00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,000
Speaker 4: doable and what are the risks associated with doing so

104
00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,400
Speaker 4: you can present options the President who ultimately makes these decisions.

105
00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,800
Speaker 4: In the case of reimagining NATO. It most certainly has

106
00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,359
Speaker 4: to be reimagined. And the reason why it has to

107
00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,080
Speaker 4: be reimagined is not because its purpose is reimagined. Its

108
00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,240
Speaker 4: capabilities have to be reimagined. Let me give you as

109
00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,240
Speaker 4: a point of example. There's a lot of talk about

110
00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,400
Speaker 4: security guarantees, and it's something that there's general agreement about

111
00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,359
Speaker 4: now with the case of Ukraine. But those security guarantees

112
00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,159
Speaker 4: basically involve the deployment of a handful of European troops,

113
00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,400
Speaker 4: primarily French in the UK and then a US backstop.

114
00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,279
Speaker 4: But in fact the security guarantee is the US backstop.

115
00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:30,960
Speaker 6: It is not.

116
00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,760
Speaker 4: And I'm not diminishing the fact that some countries in

117
00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,560
Speaker 4: Europe are willing to place troops in appost to war Ukraine.

118
00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,680
Speaker 4: What I'm pointing out is that is irrelevant without the

119
00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,000
Speaker 4: US backstop. So and the reason why you need such

120
00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,720
Speaker 4: a strong US backstop is because our allies and our

121
00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,920
Speaker 4: partners have not invested enough in their own defense capabilities

122
00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,360
Speaker 4: over the last twenty or thirty years. Now, hopefully that's

123
00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,000
Speaker 4: going to change. Hopefully that is changing, and in some

124
00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,800
Speaker 4: cases and in some particular countries, it's already changed. But

125
00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,560
Speaker 4: this is a fact that we cannot ignore. NATO is

126
00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,840
Speaker 4: going to be stronger if our allies are more capable. Especially,

127
00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,640
Speaker 4: and here's the reality, whether we want to accept it

128
00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,880
Speaker 4: or not, we have interests all over the world. We

129
00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,800
Speaker 4: have interests in the Middle East, we have interests in

130
00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,039
Speaker 4: the Western Hemisphere, and we most certainly have interests in

131
00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,919
Speaker 4: the Indo Pacific. A number of you have already pointed

132
00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,400
Speaker 4: out that China is the chief challenge. We can't have

133
00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,200
Speaker 4: the same soldiers or the same ships in both the

134
00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,120
Speaker 4: Europe and in the Indo Pacific.

135
00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:22,919
Speaker 2: We have to pick.

136
00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,400
Speaker 4: No matter how many ships we build, no matter how

137
00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,760
Speaker 4: many capabilities we grow, We're going to have to make

138
00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,440
Speaker 4: these adjustments. And the stronger our partners are in NATO,

139
00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,159
Speaker 4: the more flexibility of the United States will have to

140
00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,360
Speaker 4: secure our interests in different parts of the world. That's

141
00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,760
Speaker 4: not an abandonment in NATO. That is a reality of

142
00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,800
Speaker 4: the twenty first century in the world that's changing now.

143
00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,640
Speaker 4: In the case of Greenland, I'll say we're in a

144
00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,839
Speaker 4: good place right now. We have excellent meetings or the

145
00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,039
Speaker 4: General Secretary of Secretary General of NATO. In fact, even

146
00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,159
Speaker 4: as I speak to you now, there'll be some technical

147
00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,760
Speaker 4: level meetings between US and our partners in Greenland and

148
00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,120
Speaker 4: Denmark on this issue, and I think we have in

149
00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,320
Speaker 4: place a process that's going to bring us to a

150
00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,080
Speaker 4: good outcome for everybody. The President's interest on Greenland has

151
00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,240
Speaker 4: been clear. It's a national security interest, it's a long

152
00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,280
Speaker 4: standing interest that predate this administration. It's one that our

153
00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,360
Speaker 4: allies acknowledge is real. I think we're going to get

154
00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,920
Speaker 4: something positive done. We're going to begin that process in

155
00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,920
Speaker 4: a very professional, straightforward way, begins today and it'll be

156
00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,240
Speaker 4: a regular process. We're going to try to do it

157
00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,520
Speaker 4: in a way that isn't like a media circus every

158
00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,760
Speaker 4: time these conversations happen, because we think that creates more

159
00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,800
Speaker 4: flexibility on both sides to arrive at a positive outcome.

160
00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,480
Speaker 4: And I think we're going to get there. And I

161
00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,840
Speaker 4: thought it was noteworthy and important despite your concerns, the

162
00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,400
Speaker 4: President at his speech and Davos made very clear that

163
00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,480
Speaker 4: the United States was not going to use force or

164
00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,000
Speaker 4: military force in Greenland. So I think we're going to

165
00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,400
Speaker 4: wind up in a good place. We got a little

166
00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,600
Speaker 4: bit of work to do, but I think we're going

167
00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,200
Speaker 4: to wind up in a good place. And I think

168
00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,640
Speaker 4: you'll hear the same from our colleague.

169
00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, he's remarkably good at this. Of course, he

170
00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,080
Speaker 1: has been a senator for a long time, and he

171
00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,960
Speaker 1: knows all of these senators, who knows how to talk

172
00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,120
Speaker 1: to them, and they know all of the senators know

173
00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,200
Speaker 1: that he's smart. Since rex Ellison was not so good

174
00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,880
Speaker 1: as a secretary Secretary Pompeo, Secretary of Rubio, you could

175
00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,400
Speaker 1: send them up there every day of the week and

176
00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,520
Speaker 1: they can handle any question. One more cut of Secretary

177
00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,400
Speaker 1: Rubia before the break cut twenty.

178
00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,960
Speaker 4: Three Eleanor it gets complicated, I'll certainly let you know,

179
00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,080
Speaker 4: but our anticipation is that we're going to be able

180
00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,320
Speaker 4: to continue to work cooperatively with them because it's in

181
00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,720
Speaker 4: their interest. In hours, but I will point out to this,

182
00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,160
Speaker 4: after this operation happened, look at the people who criticized it.

183
00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,800
Speaker 4: I mean there were others, China, Russia, Iran, Haamas. These

184
00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,840
Speaker 4: are the people that were upset about this strike, in

185
00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,240
Speaker 4: this raid and what we did. And I can tell

186
00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,800
Speaker 4: you that in many countries in the Western Hemisphere there

187
00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,200
Speaker 4: was great pleasure in the fact that Maduro was removed

188
00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,839
Speaker 4: and that it didn't involve in all that war and innovation.

189
00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,959
Speaker 1: Well, said Secretary of Rubio. More of his stimony coming

190
00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,160
Speaker 1: up after I talked to Danny Pletka in the next

191
00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:55,440
Speaker 1: segment of the Here Hewitt chef right after that. Welcome

192
00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,720
Speaker 1: back America. I'm Hugh Hewlett, President Trump said yesterday and Iowa,

193
00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,680
Speaker 1: Secretary Ribio said today before the Center Foreign Relations Panel.

194
00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,240
Speaker 1: And Armada is headed and is already on station in

195
00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:12,319
Speaker 1: part to the near shore of Yourn. What are you

196
00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,080
Speaker 1: going to do with it? I don't know, but I'm

197
00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,200
Speaker 1: going to ask Danielle Plutka, a senior fellow at the

198
00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,120
Speaker 1: American Enterprises. He studies these things. She's the host of

199
00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,839
Speaker 1: What the Hell is going on? With Mark Tieson and

200
00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,360
Speaker 1: the Washington Post and AI. So I'm going to ask you, Danny,

201
00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,440
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? And right now with

202
00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,200
Speaker 1: our flotilla.

203
00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,839
Speaker 7: So, we've got a carrier battle group that is in

204
00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:40,240
Speaker 7: the region that is close enough to position to strike Iran.

205
00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,120
Speaker 7: We've got some additional assets that the President has moved

206
00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,920
Speaker 7: into other countries in the region, including Jordan. There are

207
00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,719
Speaker 7: some more things on the way that may provide additional

208
00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,840
Speaker 7: military options to the President. I think right now what

209
00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,520
Speaker 7: we're looking at is a go no go decision.

210
00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,760
Speaker 1: Okay, now what is going to happen and what you

211
00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,160
Speaker 1: want to have happened maybe different. Tell me first what

212
00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,000
Speaker 1: you think is going to happen, and then tell me

213
00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,080
Speaker 1: what you hope happens.

214
00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:17,560
Speaker 7: Look you, Hugh, I know that the President made a

215
00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,320
Speaker 7: go decision and that he was choked out of it

216
00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,640
Speaker 7: by the Israelis who felt they were not prepared for

217
00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,160
Speaker 7: what the Iranians were threatening, which is ballistic missile strikes.

218
00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,920
Speaker 7: The Iranians have spent the last eight months since the

219
00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,240
Speaker 7: Summer War rebuilding their ballistic missile capabilities, and they could

220
00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,440
Speaker 7: do very substantial damage. I'm hoping that in addition to

221
00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,520
Speaker 7: the offensive capabilities we've brought into the region, we've brought

222
00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,800
Speaker 7: additional defensive equipment into the region in order to help support.

223
00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,840
Speaker 8: The Israelis because some of that was pulled out. So

224
00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:57,800
Speaker 8: what do I hope?

225
00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,199
Speaker 2: What I hope is that.

226
00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,000
Speaker 7: The President goes with his original decision and that he

227
00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,640
Speaker 7: strikes Iran, that the people of Iran finally throw off

228
00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,439
Speaker 7: this yoke of tyranny Islamis tyranny that has been strangling

229
00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,400
Speaker 7: them for almost forty seven years, and that we're done

230
00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,480
Speaker 7: with What do.

231
00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,360
Speaker 8: I think will happen. I think it's touch and go.

232
00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,320
Speaker 7: I think the president is profoundly tempted by Iranian blandishments,

233
00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,600
Speaker 7: but he's probably making the kinds of demands that they

234
00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:29,960
Speaker 7: don't want to agree to.

235
00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,520
Speaker 1: Danny Piket we've watched him now for five years, including

236
00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,200
Speaker 1: the most recent year. He'll say A and not A,

237
00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,200
Speaker 1: he'll say B and not B, and then he'll do

238
00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,320
Speaker 1: X now. So I mean he is very good at

239
00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,520
Speaker 1: the art of deception, not unlike other wartime leaders in

240
00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,640
Speaker 1: recent memory. I'm not sure I have any hope that

241
00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,600
Speaker 1: anything the United States can do will end this regime.

242
00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,680
Speaker 1: It's got forty seven years of tentacles deep into the ground,

243
00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,880
Speaker 1: and they've proven with the execution of thirty thousand plus

244
00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,360
Speaker 1: people that they will do do whatever they have to

245
00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,040
Speaker 1: do to stay in power. Do you really think that

246
00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,920
Speaker 1: anything we do can change that. I still want to

247
00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,080
Speaker 1: hit them for punitive purposes that hopefully deter such future action,

248
00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,559
Speaker 1: But I'm not an optimist about digging them out.

249
00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,640
Speaker 8: So you know this is unknowable, right.

250
00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:30,040
Speaker 7: We are notoriously bad at predicting revolutions. All I can

251
00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,319
Speaker 7: say is that what we were seeing until the Iranians

252
00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,480
Speaker 7: clamps down very hard over the last couple of weeks.

253
00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,679
Speaker 7: What we were seeing was genuine concern inside the regime

254
00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,120
Speaker 7: that they had lost control of the country. You know,

255
00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,200
Speaker 7: all of the previous revolutions that we've seen in Iran,

256
00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,800
Speaker 7: masa Emini in twenty twenty two, twenty nineteen, the twenty

257
00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,240
Speaker 7: two thousand and nine Green Revolution, they were what you

258
00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,959
Speaker 7: could call sectoral revolutions. You know, these were efforts by

259
00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,880
Speaker 7: women or women and students or others, unions, economic grievances.

260
00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,320
Speaker 7: This was the coalescence of the people of Iran for

261
00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,160
Speaker 7: a genuine counter revolution. And while you're one hundred percent right,

262
00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,520
Speaker 7: this regime's number one priority above all else is staying

263
00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,520
Speaker 7: in power. Not nuclear, not missile, not Israel, not Palestinians,

264
00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,960
Speaker 7: staying in power, and they will do anything to hang

265
00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,480
Speaker 7: on to it. At the same time, when your people

266
00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,240
Speaker 7: arise against you, the government starts splitting, and we're still

267
00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,120
Speaker 7: seeing those splits today. That's what gives me a little

268
00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,800
Speaker 7: bit of hope. I'm not going to tell you it's

269
00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,720
Speaker 7: a slam dunk, or I'm not even going to tell

270
00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,320
Speaker 7: you it's fifty to fifty because I don't know. But

271
00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,080
Speaker 7: what I do know is that this is the closest

272
00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,600
Speaker 7: that we have come. And when I say we, I

273
00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,839
Speaker 7: mean the people who stand against this regime. This is

274
00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,360
Speaker 7: the closest we've come in forty seven years, Danny.

275
00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,120
Speaker 1: I have spent the last two weeks talking to everyone,

276
00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,560
Speaker 1: beginning with the President, who knows anybody iron and is

277
00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,520
Speaker 1: in the public and has an ability to deliver commentary

278
00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,319
Speaker 1: and not give away state secrets. And all of them

279
00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,800
Speaker 1: have different target sets. And I asked them all, why

280
00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,439
Speaker 1: don't we blow up carg Island because the regime has

281
00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,920
Speaker 1: no other money that doesn't come out of carg Island

282
00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000
Speaker 1: or the other two oil terminals, and they're worried about China.

283
00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,720
Speaker 1: Some of them want to blow it up. What standy

284
00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,480
Speaker 1: pletkuld think about the target list and whether or not

285
00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,880
Speaker 1: or ought to include carg Island.

286
00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,000
Speaker 7: So it's really funny you say that, Mark Tison and

287
00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,280
Speaker 7: I on our podcast, as you've nicely noted what the hell.

288
00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:40,640
Speaker 8: Is going on?

289
00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,760
Speaker 7: Had my colleague Michael Rubin on and Michael Rubin said,

290
00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,760
Speaker 7: you want to hit them hard, you want to hit

291
00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,600
Speaker 7: them once, you hit them at cars and that will

292
00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,720
Speaker 7: be That is a single point of failure for the

293
00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,360
Speaker 7: Iranian regime. Here's the problem. There are a lot of

294
00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,160
Speaker 7: serious problems in Syria right now, but one of the

295
00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:05,000
Speaker 7: problems that the president's new friend, Ahmed al Shara, the

296
00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,800
Speaker 7: President of Syria, has is that sanctions are absolutely strangling

297
00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,520
Speaker 7: his ability to do anything economically. Now, set aside what's

298
00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,880
Speaker 7: been going on, because that's all very troubling, but prior

299
00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,560
Speaker 7: to that he couldn't deliver economically. One of the things

300
00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,960
Speaker 7: about a transition to a democratically ruled Iran is that

301
00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,000
Speaker 7: economic life's blood, that is Iran's oil.

302
00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,520
Speaker 8: And so my guess is that when they.

303
00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,640
Speaker 7: Debate hitting harsh, not hitting harsh, hitting the oil infrastructure,

304
00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,720
Speaker 7: not hitting it, they are asking themselves, if the good

305
00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,360
Speaker 7: guys come to power, how will they repair this? How

306
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,880
Speaker 7: will they have access to money fast enough? And you know, again,

307
00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,400
Speaker 7: I think that's just a factor. But in terms of

308
00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,440
Speaker 7: the strategic importance of it, I couldn't agree.

309
00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,200
Speaker 8: More with the folks who said to you, that is

310
00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:56,920
Speaker 8: a good target.

311
00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,880
Speaker 1: All right. Let me conclude by I don't know how

312
00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,320
Speaker 1: to pronounce harge island. I don't care, but I don't

313
00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,520
Speaker 1: know much about the geography of of Iran. I do

314
00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,760
Speaker 1: care about they're being able to hit all these bases.

315
00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,280
Speaker 1: I played Secretary of Rubio testimony today. There are forty

316
00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,520
Speaker 1: thousand Americans within range of Iran. If President Trump pulls

317
00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,880
Speaker 1: the trigger, should it be overwhelming force on everything that

318
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,960
Speaker 1: moves that can hurt American troops?

319
00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,960
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think that from everything I understand so far,

320
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,120
Speaker 7: I don't think that that is the President's inclination.

321
00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,880
Speaker 8: Notwithstanding his rhetoric.

322
00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,400
Speaker 7: I do think that the I do think that one

323
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,560
Speaker 7: thing they will have focused on very intensely is Iran's

324
00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,840
Speaker 7: ability to strike US troops US allies.

325
00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,840
Speaker 8: And that doesn't just mean Israel. That also means Saudi.

326
00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,920
Speaker 7: Arabia, it means the United Arab Emirates, it means unfortunately,

327
00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,040
Speaker 7: it also means Qatar, where we have a base.

328
00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,600
Speaker 8: So my guess is that we will have.

329
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,120
Speaker 7: Very good protection in place and that we will take

330
00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,160
Speaker 7: out that ability before we do anything else. So is

331
00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,200
Speaker 7: that something to worry about. Yes, But our Pentagon planners

332
00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,920
Speaker 7: and these guys in the Pentagon people like, they don't

333
00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,960
Speaker 7: like Donald Trump. They respect, they don't respect Pete Hegseth.

334
00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,880
Speaker 7: That's not the factor here. These are the guys in uniform.

335
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,080
Speaker 7: This is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs raising Kane.

336
00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,440
Speaker 7: These guys know what they're doing.

337
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,320
Speaker 1: Danny Pledgett. Always good to talk to you on the

338
00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,240
Speaker 1: other side of the world, and I appreciate your making

339
00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,880
Speaker 1: time for us from the other side of the world

340
00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,639
Speaker 1: on this most important of complex Danny Pledgett, thank you.

341
00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,199
Speaker 1: Her podcast with Mark Tison is what the hell is

342
00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,360
Speaker 1: going on? Don't miss it. Stay tuned to the Huge

343
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,320
Speaker 1: Healers Show. Welcome back to America. I'm you you at.

344
00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,159
Speaker 1: Tom Wyler joins me from Minnesota. Tom is one of

345
00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,280
Speaker 1: three Republicans seeking the Senate nomination. I will talk to

346
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,200
Speaker 1: each of them in turn about what's going on in

347
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,800
Speaker 1: their state. I'm starting with Tom because I had his number.

348
00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,679
Speaker 1: Tom Wyler, Welcome. What do you think is going on

349
00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:52,720
Speaker 1: in the Twin Cities.

350
00:17:54,800 --> 00:18:01,080
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, it's bad policy met with just horrible leadership. And

351
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 9: I'm really reaching out one to have a joint process

352
00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,200
Speaker 9: moving forward where federal, local and state officials and law

353
00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,600
Speaker 9: enforcement work together for the improvement for the improvement of

354
00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:18,040
Speaker 9: Minnesotans and Minneapolis residents. And really on the big flick,

355
00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,720
Speaker 9: I'm sort of pushing a theme of Minnesotans between the

356
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,760
Speaker 9: tens and really that's where I think the vast majority

357
00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 9: of Minnesotas lie.

358
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,640
Speaker 5: Most Minnesotas were not.

359
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,760
Speaker 9: Protesting against I officials doing their job.

360
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,240
Speaker 5: Most Minnesotas were not out.

361
00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 9: Rioting or protesting it all over the last couple of weeks.

362
00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,680
Speaker 9: Most Minnesotas just want safe and secure communities. They want

363
00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,040
Speaker 9: criminals in jail, they want accountability, they want the frauds stopped,

364
00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 9: and they want a thriving economy so that they can

365
00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,280
Speaker 9: live the American dream and their kids have a chance

366
00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 9: for a better future than their own.

367
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,520
Speaker 1: Tom Wyler, you just mentioned fraud. That story has been

368
00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,120
Speaker 1: wiped off of the front pages by the two tragic

369
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,640
Speaker 1: shootings that resulted in the death protesters. Do you think

370
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 1: that the Somali American fraud story is over or will

371
00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 1: it return in time for the election?

372
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,439
Speaker 9: Oh, unfortunately, it's not over at all. This story is

373
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 9: going to continue to grow, and more important than the

374
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 9: story the amount of money that's been stolen from Minnesota

375
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,159
Speaker 9: taxpayers and really every American taxpayer, because a lot of

376
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 9: this is federal funding that comes through the state of Minnesota.

377
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 5: So the theft is.

378
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 9: Going to continue to be uncovered, and we really need

379
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,479
Speaker 9: to once stop the thrift, stop the theft of taxpayer dollars,

380
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 9: tracked down where that money went, and Minnesotans need a

381
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 9: fraud rebate. At this point, there is billions and billions

382
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,159
Speaker 9: of dollars that have been stolen from our taxpayers and

383
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 9: a mere millions have been so far returned back to

384
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,679
Speaker 9: the state government. So this story is not going anywhere,

385
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 9: and unfortunately it's going to be a big issue moving

386
00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 9: forward for all Minnesotans to both tackle with and and hopefully,

387
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 9: like I said, recoup some of those stolen funds.

388
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 1: Tom Well, you were a summariner before you retired from

389
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 1: the Navy. Do you see accountability? And Navy is a

390
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 1: very accountable organization. If a mistake is made, the captain

391
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: is not the captain very long. Is there any accountability

392
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota state government for what has happened or

393
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,719
Speaker 1: the Minneapolis state government, city government for what has happened?

394
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 9: Unfortunately no, and there's I mean both on the fraud

395
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,719
Speaker 9: aspect and on the tragic events that have happened over

396
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 9: the last couple of weeks with Ice agents to me,

397
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 9: Mayor Fry, Governor walls Angie Kraik piggy flying again and

398
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 9: others have been basically setting these initial conditions where they

399
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 9: put in Minnesota innocent Minnesotans and.

400
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 5: IS officials trying to do their work. They sort of pour.

401
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 9: Gasoline on it, and then they sit back behind your

402
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 9: podium and watch things occur. And it's just setting up

403
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 9: these IS officials and officers for failure and putting Minnesotans

404
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 9: in harm's way. And then when it comes to accountability

405
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 9: for the fraud, like you said, in the military, specifically

406
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 9: in the navy, it's pretty clear.

407
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 5: If your ship runs aground, the captain gets relieved.

408
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 9: Whether the captain was on watch when it occurred, you know,

409
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 9: eating in the wardroom or asleep in his rack, the

410
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 9: captain's overall in charge, and accountability stops and starts with

411
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 9: the captain, So if something goes wrong, he gets relieved,

412
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 9: he or she gets relieved. Like I've said for months now,

413
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 9: Minnesota unfortunately has run aground with one party Democratic rule,

414
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 9: and it's time to chart a new course for Minnesotans.

415
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 9: And it's time to get common sense leadership in the

416
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 9: United States Senate. And that's why I'm running to represent

417
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 9: the great folks of Minnesota.

418
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: So great question, Tom Wyler. What is your website and

419
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: when is the primary?

420
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 9: The primary is not till August eleventh. The big day

421
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 9: coming up for all Minnesotans is February third, so that's

422
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 9: next Tuesday, February third.

423
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 5: All Minnesotans are welcome.

424
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,719
Speaker 9: To join us at a caucus that's really meeting with

425
00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 9: your neighbors in the first step towards choosing, you know,

426
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 9: help helping define party platforms and also choosing who's going

427
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 9: to end up representing all Minnesotas in the United States Senate.

428
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 9: So this Tuesday, get out there to your local caucuses,

429
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 9: look it up online where you're heading, and support Wiler

430
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 9: for Senate.

431
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 5: The primary is August eleventh.

432
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 9: And then obviously I'm looking for a big win on

433
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 9: November three.

434
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 1: So what's the website to get more information about Tom Wyler?

435
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 5: Thanks for bagging me up there, Hugh. Our website is

436
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 5: Tom Wyler twenty twenty six dot com. Please log on.

437
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 9: I got a lot of data there, a lot of information,

438
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 9: and a lot of what I'm focused on in my

439
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 9: campaign is solving problems. So I have a lot of

440
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 9: my ideas on why I want to go to Washington,

441
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 9: DC to fix problems in DC, not create them. So

442
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 9: that's Tom Wyler twenty twenty six dot com. Any and

443
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 9: all support. Financial support is very much needed and welcome.

444
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: Are you and the other two Republicans going to debate

445
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 1: each other? If so, I'm available to do it, I

446
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: know how to do it, and I'm fair. Are you

447
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: going to debate the other two?

448
00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: We are?

449
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 5: We've had a series of forms already. I have debated.

450
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 9: The majority of the other candidates are or I guess forums.

451
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 5: There for some reason, you know Minnesota and I we

452
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 5: don't have to call them debates.

453
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 9: But yeah, we've we've got together and debated a couple

454
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 9: of times. I have not had the opportunity, uh to

455
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 9: discuss with Michelle Tafoya, obviously she just recently ended the race.

456
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 1: Well, she'll be here and again if you need a moderator,

457
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: give out a shout to WNTP, Am to Abata the

458
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: Patriot will try and put something together. Uh. What's the

459
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: money situation looking like in the various campaigns, Tom Wyler.

460
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 9: Well, I definitely need more money, as do all Republicans

461
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 9: of Minnesota. Unfortunately, both Angie Craig and Peggy Flanagan have

462
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 9: the Democratic uh coffers getting filled up.

463
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 5: To the tune of between two to four million dollars

464
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 5: a piece.

465
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 9: So right now, you know, I've been bottom line fundraising

466
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 9: has been an uphill battle. But now that we're you know,

467
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 9: in the year the election, a lot more donors are

468
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 9: are sort of waking up to the call. And sadly

469
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 9: because of minutes being in the national media and really

470
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 9: the lack, the lack and horrible leadership of Minnesota is

471
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 9: being on full display for the entire country, in the

472
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 9: entire world, that is peaking a lot of interest and

473
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 9: it is turned into some actional dollars that we can

474
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 9: put forward to helping chart a new course from Minnesota.

475
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: Is the submarine community at least showing up early with

476
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: early money.

477
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 9: A few of my good shipmates have, but still there's

478
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 9: a lot more good submariners out there, and I'm knocking

479
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 9: on doors and making a lot of calls to help

480
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 9: get the get my name id out there.

481
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 5: You know, as submariners, we like to stand out with

482
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 5: the water and stay a little stealthy. But as a politician,

483
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 5: that goes.

484
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 9: Out the window, and I need to be knocking on

485
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 9: more doors and making more phone calls to get the

486
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 9: coffers filled up for a big, big spread to the finish.

487
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 5: Here to November third.

488
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: Tom Weiler, twenty twenty six, and the caucas is February third,

489
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: first step in the process. And I hope everyone listening

490
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: up in minnesot cold gets out whether you're in Saint

491
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: Claude down the Twin City is over on the North

492
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: Dakota border, head over to Tom Eiler twenty twenty six

493
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: and find out where your local podcass is takes into

494
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: the QUH show. Thank you Tom racing there God here

495
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: we go it keeping an eye on the golf and

496
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: everywhere else news who's happening. But I want to take

497
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: a segment to bring up the speed on the redistricting

498
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: wars of twenty twenty five twenty twenty six. I'm doing

499
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: so with Matt Sharpstein, who is the editor in chief

500
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: of MXM dot com News. Matt, welcome, good to have you. Matt.

501
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: Can we start by telling people what MXM news.

502
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 10: Is Absolutely no, Thank you so much you. It's a

503
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 10: pleasure to be on MXM. We are Don Junior's news site,

504
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 10: mainstream news about mainstream bias. Really just working to deliver

505
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 10: the news that people want when people need it.

506
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: How long have you been up for and how many

507
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: viewers are you getting?

508
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 10: So we are we've been around for about two or

509
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 10: three years now and we have probably about over a

510
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 10: million readers between all of our different maybe not sites,

511
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 10: but between our.

512
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 11: Socials and our articles.

513
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 10: Really we want to bring folks news that's aggregate it

514
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 10: and again folks news that's right up folks.

515
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: Alleymxamnews dot com. Now, Matt, Sir, I am reliably informed.

516
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: You've been following the redistricting wars. I want to cut

517
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: to the chase and then work backwards. Who won?

518
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 10: Hey, well, we still don't know quite yet. At this point,

519
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 10: there's one state to go. I you know, hate to

520
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 10: say have good news and bad news since there is

521
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 10: one state left. But the good news is that state

522
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 10: is Florida, and it looks like Florida is going to

523
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 10: deliver hopefully up to five news seats, which is exactly

524
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 10: what President Trump is calling on states across the country

525
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 10: to deliver.

526
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: If Florida comes through with five and the votes stay

527
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: the same as they were in twenty twenty four, how

528
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: many seats would flip which way?

529
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 10: So when we look at if we look at just Florida,

530
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 10: we have the potential for five. There are currently twenty

531
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 10: eight states across or excuse me, twenty eight seats across Florida.

532
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 10: Currently twenty of those are Republicans, eight or Democrats.

533
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: If we draw a map that.

534
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 10: Is most favorable to us, and one that is frankly,

535
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 10: in my mind fair, considering how skewed Democrats have drawn

536
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 10: their seats across the country, we can deliver five new seats. Nationwide,

537
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 10: We're looking at dozens of new seats if everything.

538
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 12: Goes our way.

539
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: Dozens. Now, I've been teaching redistricting law for thirty years,

540
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: and I've told people there's only one thing you can't

541
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: do when you redistrict, and that's huge race. And the

542
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: Supreme Court's about the rule that the Voting Rights Actor

543
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: is unconstitutional. I believe if that happens, Matt, how many

544
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: states will have to readraw districts.

545
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 10: Look, so we have Louisiana, we have Alabama. But both

546
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 10: of those states have two seats that we can redraw,

547
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 10: and frankly, that's what we should be doing, because that

548
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 10: is what's fair. You know, if we want to talk

549
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 10: about fairness, which Democrats love to do, look at California,

550
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 10: a state where there are fifty two House seats currently,

551
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 10: with how aggressively Democrats want a jerry mender. They are

552
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 10: now drawing out almost all but four Republicans, which is

553
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 10: just insane. And you're talking about a state where Trump

554
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 10: won roughly forty of the vote. Democrats now want to

555
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 10: take ninety percent of the seats. And you see that

556
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 10: in California, in Illinois, in New York, in other dem states.

557
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 10: President Trump is called on Republican states to do nothing

558
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 10: more but just level the playing field and do exactly

559
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 10: what Democrats do, which is fight for their voters hard.

560
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 10: And we should be doing the same now.

561
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: I like to use as my best example because it's easy,

562
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: as Massachusetts. President Trump ran up about thirty four percent

563
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: of messages. It's very liberal state, but there were thirty

564
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: four percent of people that voted for Donald Trump. There

565
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: are no Republicans in the House of Representatives from masschufs

566
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: zero zero because they do not care about being fair.

567
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: They do not want one threat. By the way, I

568
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: don't either know. Redistricting is completely constitutional. It should be

569
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: up to the people's houses. There's only one role, equal representation,

570
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: one person, one vote, that's the only role that matters

571
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: to me. But Democrats want to play a double game, Matt.

572
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 1: They don't want you to look at Illinois and Massachusetts,

573
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: New York and California. They want you to look at

574
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: Florida and get upset. I don't think Republicans have gotten

575
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: rolled anywhere except in Indiana. We're inexplicably those yours did

576
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: not redistrict. Is that one done? By the way, We're

577
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: just not redistricting there.

578
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 10: It looks like that's the case. It's so unfortunate. You're

579
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 10: exactly right, Hugh, Like when we look at Indiana, we

580
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 10: have Republicans decide that nope, we don't want to fight

581
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 10: for our voters as hard as Democrats do. And we

582
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 10: have folks like Gregory Good who are now giving Democrats

583
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 10: two free congressional seats. The same just happened in Utah,

584
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 10: where the lieutenant governor ran to formalize a court ruling

585
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 10: that gave Democrats a safe Democrat seat in a state

586
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 10: that Trump won by double digits. Like, Hugh, like you

587
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 10: and your viewers, I know, are just furious about that.

588
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 10: And that's why it is so imperative. And I'm so

589
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 10: glad that Texas answered Trump's call. Texas answered Trump's call.

590
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 10: North Carolina answered his call. Now it's up to Florida

591
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 10: as the last state, and I'm very confident that we'll

592
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 10: be able to deliver that.

593
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: We have a.

594
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 10: Powerhouse bench of Republicans in Florida, from Maga Meg Weinberger

595
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 10: to Speaker Daniel Perez to speak Speaker Designate Mike Rodondo,

596
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 10: who are prepared and ready I believe to deliver on Trump's.

597
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: Well, we got to be worried about Danny. Danny's a

598
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: frequent guest on the show, Matt. That's why I like

599
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: to make fun of him a little bit. Danny Perez.

600
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm going to trust him to do

601
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: anything except show up in time for an interview, because

602
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: he's never missed an interview. But I hope they get

603
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: that system going. There was a decision yesterday in Virginia.

604
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: Now they got the triple play in the off year,

605
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: They've got the governorship, the House, and the Senate, and

606
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: they threatened to immediately redistrict. But I c a court

607
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: decision came down. I'm not sure what it said. I

608
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: haven't ready yet. If you had a chance to catch

609
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: up with it yet.

610
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 10: A very little bit, you know. But all I can

611
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 10: tell you in short is the ruling in Virginia is

612
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 10: a monumental victory for President Trump. You're talking three to

613
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 10: four seats the Democrats attempted to redraw now being pushed

614
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 10: to post the November election. You're talking three or fourth

615
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 10: seats the Republicans need in a razorhouse, you know, election cycle.

616
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 10: It's three to four seats of Democrats would otherwise use

617
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 10: to start the sham impeachments, which hunts in sham trials

618
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 10: that they've been promising.

619
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: So now we've got California gave five seats to the Democrats.

620
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Incredibly incredibly, they're going to dump chairman of committees, which

621
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: is like the most important thing for a state to have.

622
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: They're going to dump them in favor of rookie Democrats.

623
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: But that's done, you, it's in the books. We lost

624
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: two to one at the District court. By the way,

625
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: do you think the Supreme Court will take that case?

626
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: I hope.

627
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 10: So it seems like they at least were at least

628
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 10: we'd expected to take it, which I really hope they

629
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 10: do if they go how it seems with VRR I

630
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 10: think we're looking at so hopefully really good high court

631
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 10: decisions on redistricting across the country.

632
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's only one rule which you can't use race,

633
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: and it's apparently the descent in the California three judge

634
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: panel was they use race. What are we doing? And

635
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: so if it gets up to the six Originals on

636
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: the court, they might agree on that there is a

637
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: redistricting case there. So when it all shakes out, what

638
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: happens though, if the you know President Trump was talking

639
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: yesterday in Iowa, forty eight out of the last fifty

640
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: off year elections have gone against the party in power midterms.

641
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: Why do you think we can fight upstream against that?

642
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 10: Matt Well, what I can tell you is we have

643
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 10: spent or Democrats have spent decades jerrymandering their states, decades

644
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 10: rigging elections in the name of democracy, and only now

645
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 10: have Republicans got in the backbone thanks to President Trump

646
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 10: to fight back. And again, Trump is not asking for

647
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 10: us to do anything different from Democrats already have, and

648
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 10: that's fight for voters as hard as is Democrats do theirs. So,

649
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 10: whether that's Kansas, which I don't believe is redrawing, whether

650
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 10: that's Indiana that backed out, whether that's Ohio where it

651
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 10: looks like we actually made a Democrat safer. It's now

652
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 10: up to states like Florida, the very last state to

653
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 10: really bring this home for Republicans.

654
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: And I just want to repeat you said dozens of

655
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: seats could flip. I don't think it's a Is it

656
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: really over twenty I didn't think we were.

657
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 10: So the hope, the hope right now is if the

658
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 10: Supreme Court rules on VIA. We're looking at two seats

659
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 10: in Louisiana, two seats in Alabama, one seat in South Carolina,

660
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 10: one in Florida. On top of the other seats that

661
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 10: we can go for. You know, we're looking at over

662
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 10: a dozen seats if VRRA goes our way, and it

663
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 10: would have been up to twenty had Republicans, Republicans Rhinos

664
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 10: in Indiana, Kansas, and Ohio would have given us the

665
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 10: maps that we actually need to deliver for Republican voters.

666
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 10: It really is such a shame. I am so glad

667
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 10: that President Trump is fighting against some of these Republicans

668
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 10: again in Indiana and Kansas and elsewhere who have gone

669
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 10: against both Trump and voters.

670
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: Now those doors are closed though, right anyway to make

671
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: them appeal to a sweet region in any of those states.

672
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: I think Ohio is run by the state constitution. I'm

673
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: not sure what happened there. But Indiana was a political choice.

674
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 10: Indiana was unfortunately, you know, political. Indiana could have done it,

675
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 10: They should have done it. Kansas obviously has a Democrat governor.

676
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 10: I think there was a numbers race in the Senate

677
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 10: that they couldn't hurdle in Kansas as well. And Ohio obviously,

678
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 10: to your point, was the same. But you know, you

679
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 10: look at California where it had a supposed independent redistrict

680
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 10: and commission.

681
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: You know that was never independent.

682
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 10: You know, you look at them getting rid of it

683
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 10: in favor of Prop fifty, in making the seats, you know,

684
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 10: even more lopsided. I just cannot get past the fact

685
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 10: that we have Republicans that are fighting to give Democrats seats.

686
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 10: I just think that is political sedition, political treason. And

687
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 10: again President Trump is right to be primary a.

688
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: Completely oblivious to the realities of redistricting. And I try

689
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: to make the argument because I'm on in Indiana, but

690
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: for some reason they didn't do it. But I hope

691
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: Danny Perez in the Gang down in Florida, put their

692
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: their shoulder to it and get those redistricts drawn because

693
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: we got to play as hard as the Democrats. Matt Sharpstein,

694
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: thank you for joining me. Mxmnews dot com. Thank you

695
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: redistricting and they cover it. I'll be right back on

696
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: the hu Hewitt Show. Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewitt.

697
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: Josh rosh Hour as editor in chief of Jewish Insider. Josh,

698
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: how do you read what President Trump has said about

699
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: the Abraham Lincoln Carrier Group today on True Social and

700
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: in Iowa? Yes, what do you think is going to happen?

701
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 13: I mean, boy, I feel like when we talked about

702
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 13: this last week, I feel like we're in a similar

703
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 13: place where I'm hearing a lot of mixed signals from

704
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 13: the White House. Trump's rhetoric, I think, if anything, is

705
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 13: very similar to what we heard in the run up

706
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 13: to the bombing of the Iranian nuclear facilities during the

707
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 13: Twelve Day War last year. So, if anything, Trump's rhetoric

708
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 13: would make me a little more bullish that there is

709
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 13: some type of military action in the works. On the

710
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 13: other hand, hearing from some of Trump's advisors, hearing Scuttle

711
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 13: butt from Steve wood Cooffe Jared Kushner that may not

712
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 13: be quite as a bullish or quite as eager for

713
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 13: the US to strike Iran, hearing some questions about the

714
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 13: you know what kind of operation would entail.

715
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 12: Would it be.

716
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 13: A one and done strike, would it involve much more

717
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 13: kinetic action?

718
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 12: I don't know.

719
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 13: But the fact that we don't hear as much of

720
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 13: a strategy and an outline. And here in Rubio today,

721
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 13: Hugh he Rubio testified before the Senate Senate Committee, and

722
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 13: you know, very didn't offer a whole lot of I

723
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 13: didn't I didn't hear in his comments and any indication

724
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 13: that there was, you know, anything in the works.

725
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 12: But of course we could be surprised.

726
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 13: I was surprised last year when Trump attacked the nuclear facilities.

727
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 13: So anything can happen, and they're certainly moving the military

728
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 13: assets in the region to prepare for such an outcome.

729
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 13: But it does seem like they're also dangling the carot

730
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 13: of negotiations in a way to back down.

731
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 12: So well, we'll see where things go now.

732
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: I want to read you from the Times of Israel.

733
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: A couple hours ago. Tehran had previously said a channel

734
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: of communication is opened between Foreign Minister Gotchi and Steve Whitcoff,

735
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: despite the lack of diplomatic relations. However, today Iran's Foreign

736
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: Minister Aragotchi said that he had not been in contact

737
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: with Witkoff in recent days. The intermediaries we're holding consultation.

738
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: So I really do not know whether or not Iran's

739
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: interested in doing a deal to disarm and get rid

740
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: of their ballistic minsial program, which is I think the

741
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: demand on the table is that you're understanding the demand

742
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: on the table.

743
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 13: Yes, though Trump's truth social I believe it was earlier

744
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 13: today only focused on nuclear weapons as I read the posts,

745
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 13: so there was you didn't mention ballistic missiles, did not

746
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 13: mention even a nuclear material. So and also it was

747
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 13: offering the Iranian regime and off ramp to negotiate in

748
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 13: order to prevent any military action. Now, last time that happened,

749
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 13: Iran did not want to negotiate, did not want to

750
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 13: play ball, and they suffered the consequences. So I mean,

751
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 13: we could that we could see a repeat of what

752
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 13: happened last year. Perhaps, but taking a face value, it

753
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 13: does seem like there has been movement to try to

754
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 13: at least explore a diplomatic option for the Iranian regime.

755
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: Now, Turkey weighed in rather heavily today to their front,

756
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: urging no attack take place. How much weight do we

757
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: give their NATO member, their trusted ally President Narra go on,

758
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: get along, but the president gets along with everybody. That's

759
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: not a guarantee you won't blow up Iran, would you

760
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: make Does Turkey have any valence here?

761
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 12: Well, yes, I think they do. I think Trump.

762
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 13: I mean, they're also part of the whole cause of

763
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 13: reconstruction project, which the Israelis do not particularly care for.

764
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 13: So Trump does have that relationship with air Toawan. He

765
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 13: also has a relationship with some of these Gulf state

766
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 13: allies in the region, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and another front

767
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 13: of me if you will, that that certainly does not

768
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 13: want any military action in the region. So some of

769
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 13: the Gulf state allies are also cautioning against any activity.

770
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 13: And there's also a lot of economic I mean, there

771
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 13: are definitely folks in the Trump orbit that have economic

772
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 13: interests that would be disrupted if there's a real long

773
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 13: standing war or military fight between or military engagement between

774
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 13: the US and Iran and the US allies and Israel

775
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 13: certainly would be would be at risk as well. So again,

776
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 13: I think there's all Trump has liked to do, the

777
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 13: one and done engagements that have been quite effective Venezuela

778
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 13: most recently, but certainly the taken out of the nuclear

779
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 13: facilities during the twelve day war. This would I mean,

780
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 13: I haven't heard sort of a quick, quick, one two

781
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 13: day strike that would kind of be clean and neat

782
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 13: and leave leave the US with a clear, clear win.

783
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 13: It would take I think a lot more time to

784
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 13: really have a victory and taking out the regime or

785
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 13: at least roll and rolling back their capabilities. And I

786
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 13: think that's what's that's what's holding things back now.

787
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: Earlier in the program, Daniel Plako is my guests from AI,

788
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: and Danny said that she knew that Benjamin Ntinia, who

789
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: I'd asked President Trump not to hit Iran ten days

790
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: ago when he wanted to, she knew that. Do you

791
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: have an opinion on what Nea who thinks? Now?

792
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 13: Everything I've heard is that the primary concern from the

793
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 13: Israelis a week ago is that they were unprepared if

794
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 13: a Ran chose to take out as a response to

795
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 13: at a US attack, if they went after Israel like

796
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 13: they did during the Twelve Day War, that Israel was

797
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 13: not quite prepared and Israel used a lot of its

798
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 13: stockpile of the defensive of the especially defensive military equipment.

799
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 13: So that may still be the case. In fact, I

800
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 13: think that is a worry about Israel not having all

801
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 13: the hardware they would need in preparation for the retaliation

802
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 13: from Iran. So I do think that's very good intel.

803
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 13: And that's what we've heard as well, that there are

804
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 13: a lot of concerns in Israel. As much as they'd

805
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 13: like to take out the Ayatola and just the horrible

806
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 13: regime there, there's a worry that if it really expanded

807
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 13: to a big military fight, that Israel would like it

808
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 13: to take place on a different timetable.

809
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: Did you hear anything. I've got a lot of Secretary

810
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: Rubio's testimony on the impact of President Trump doing nothing

811
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: in the aftermath. That is many many threats to do

812
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: something on behalf of the Iranian people. It would be

813
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: an Obama red liner Ratio, wouldn't it.

814
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's dead on Hue that you you

815
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 13: don't you don't you know, use the power of the

816
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 13: bully pulpit without having kinectic, without having a backup, without having.

817
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 12: That power force. And I hear a lot of words

818
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 12: being being exchanged.

819
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 13: I don't see a whole lot of movement aside from

820
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 13: the military assets moving into the region. You know the

821
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 13: fact that the the US wasn't prepared to conduct a

822
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 13: strike a week or two ago against Iran, even as

823
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 13: Trump was making those boasts on social media that.

824
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 12: That is a proba.

825
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 13: I mean, that's a challenge. You can't You got to

826
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 13: have everyone pull in on the same same string. And uh, look,

827
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 13: I think I think we're in better military posture is

828
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 13: much much better, in a much better place right now.

829
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 13: But there is a lot of I think disagreement within

830
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 13: this administration on what to do, and there's a lot

831
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 13: of worry that this is not going to be a

832
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 13: one or two day operation. This is going to take

833
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 13: a lot of effort in time, and that's not something

834
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 13: that Trump is generally leaned towards throughout his his his

835
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 13: time in office.

836
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 7: Now.

837
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: Josh crush Hour, I've asked everyone about carg Island, which

838
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: Danny pronounce is harsh Island. I don't know how to

839
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: pronounce it, but it's the only way that they can

840
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: make money in Iran is through harsh Island and two

841
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: other oil terminals on the coast. Have you heard people

842
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: talk about why have we not blown them up?

843
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 12: I mean, it's a good question. I've heard you know

844
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 12: sort of the same things as you have, Hugh.

845
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 13: But so I don't know what what kind of operation

846
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 13: would be necessary and how to how to respond. But

847
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 13: we do know that the sanctions and the pressure that

848
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 13: we've placed on Iran has really done a number on

849
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 13: the regime.

850
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 12: They're feeling the pressure.

851
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 13: And even if nothing happens right away, it does seem

852
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 13: like Iran is at its weakest point since the revolution

853
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 13: of nineteen seventy nine. And hopefully the US can use

854
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 13: all kinds of means to kind of continue to put

855
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 13: that pressure on, and economically is a big, big, big factor.

856
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: Josh Crush are always good to see you. Thank you

857
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: for joining me. Follow Josh on act at Josh Cross Hour.

858
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: Follow me the next segment. I've got Slim Ditto coming

859
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: up later in the program. But next segment I'll play

860
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: more and more k Arubio for you. Tomorrow I will

861
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: have on Kareem Sadupur, who is of all the Iranian

862
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: experts we have in the United States inside the Bell Way.

863
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: I think Kareem is the equal of any of them.

864
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: So I encourage you to mark down Salem New Channel tomorrow,

865
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: probably in the five o'clock hours. Quoting back in America, I'm

866
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: g you it. Selena Zito is President Trump's favorite columnists

867
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: Columns to America. She writes for the Pittsburgh Gazette, she

868
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: writes for the Washington Examiner. She writes for pretty much

869
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: every publication in the world and the Washington Post, and

870
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: she's the author of the best selling book Butler. Selena, welcome.

871
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about John Fetterman because

872
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: of something I heard, and I'll ask Mary Catherineham about

873
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 1: next hour. I was in the dentist chair this morning

874
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: listening to Mary Catherine's podcast and she referred to herself

875
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: as a John Fetterman Republican. What do you think that means?

876
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 14: It means that you are being reasonable and being able

877
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 14: to unpack what.

878
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 15: You see happening on both sides. That's what I think

879
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 15: I mean.

880
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 14: I interviewed him yesterday, I know, and he he has

881
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 14: an ability to step back and say, Okay, this is

882
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 14: why this is happening.

883
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 15: This is why this is happening. And I agree with this,

884
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 15: or I agree with part.

885
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 14: Of that, and we've been unwilling to be that way

886
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 14: since probably since to the two thousand and eight presidential election,

887
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 14: where that ability, along with that historic election, along with

888
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 14: the advent of Twitter, has made it impossible to have

889
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 14: a buffet of points of view and be able to

890
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 14: get away with it without being attacked.

891
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: Selena, did you ask John Fetterman about the Minnesota shootings.

892
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 14: Yeah, we talked a bit about you know, he believes

893
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 14: in what President Trump. Is very supportive of what President

894
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 14: Trump has done on the border. He also is very

895
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 14: supportive of getting illegal immigrants out of this country that

896
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 14: are part of a criminal element of committed crimes or

897
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 14: a history of crimes, whether it's in this country or

898
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 14: in the country of origin. He does not agree with, however,

899
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 14: Christino and her the way she has prosecuted and handled this,

900
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 14: and Stephen Miller as well.

901
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: So I have just finished a column and filed it

902
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: with Fox that will beyond Fox News Digital tomorrow. That

903
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: simply says our country has become accustomed to instant replay.

904
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: We watch every sport with instant replay, and we always

905
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: think the call went against our team or for a team,

906
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: is the right call or the wrong call based upon

907
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: who are rooting for. But we're also used to less

908
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: than three minute decision paths. There is nobody's opinion I

909
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: want based on what they saw online. They that's just

910
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: the old lawyer in me. You don't know. And so

911
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: anyone who's telling me that they think they know what

912
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: happened in those two shootings that resulted in tragic deaths,

913
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't care whether they're for or against the police,

914
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: or whether they think it was justified or not. They

915
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: have no idea. They're just not in a position to know.

916
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 15: I completely agree.

917
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 14: That's why you go through my Twitter feed or anything

918
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 14: that I've written. I've not written anything about it because

919
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 14: I don't.

920
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 15: Know enough about it.

921
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 1: Well, did John Fetterman express any opinion on the whether

922
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: or not the use of force was justified? I hope not,

923
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: but he might have.

924
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 15: Oh he did not.

925
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: That's the right responsible, growing up answer. How long have

926
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: you covered cops four Selena?

927
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 14: Oh, you know, it's always been sort of integrated in

928
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 14: whatever I do.

929
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 15: But you know, I worked at a local newspaper.

930
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 14: So that was always part of whatever you were covering,

931
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 14: including the cops beat.

932
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: Have you ever met I haven't a law enforcement official

933
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: who wanted to be involved in an officer involved shooting.

934
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 15: Oh no, never.

935
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: Never.

936
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 14: That is something that they they are not only trained

937
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 14: to not want to be part of.

938
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 15: But also emotionally want to be part of.

939
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 14: You know, they are part of the community that they

940
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 14: walk in, right that because and and and a lot

941
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 14: of you know, communities, you actually have to live within

942
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 14: the boundaries of the community to starve as a police officer,

943
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 14: so you are very connected to your community.

944
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 15: You probably go to church with a lot of the

945
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 15: people that you're you're involved with.

946
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 14: You you you're they have maybe have been your kids

947
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 14: baseball coach right there there. That's always been a very

948
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 14: common practice, and one is has been really important because

949
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 14: it keeps that connectivity to place.

950
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: You know, the cringiest thing anyone can ask active duty

951
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: military person is have you killed anyone like a sniper

952
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: or a special Forces That's the cringiest thing you can

953
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: ask them because they don't want to do that. They

954
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: only do it when they have to. And police do

955
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: not want to be involved in officer involved shootings. But

956
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: I do think we live in a culture that rewards

957
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: with clicks anyone who has a hot take, and therefore

958
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: we're going to get lots of hot takes.

959
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 14: Yeah, and I work in a profession that debt literally

960
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 14: makes money off of it. And you know, not everybody,

961
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 14: but you know, you need to be thoughtful, You.

962
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 15: Need to be first.

963
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 14: I had an editor, Jim Cutty, who told me when

964
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 14: I first started Selena, it doesn't matter if it's not important,

965
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 14: if you're first, you just need to be right.

966
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: All right, Now, I got to ask you so a

967
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: completely unrelated question before you run out of time. The

968
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: Steelers head coach quit. Were you shocked? That doesn't happen

969
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: but once in a lifetime in Pittsburgh.

970
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 14: Yeah, there's only been three coaches since nineteen sixty nine,

971
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 14: Chuck Noll from Cleveland, by the way, of course, Jim

972
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 14: bill Kauer and Mike Tomlin. And they brought a Pittsburgh

973
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 14: kid home. His family lives right down the street from

974
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 14: my brother. Kid went to Saint Rosalia's. I mean, this

975
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 14: is like they brought the most Yinzer ever to be

976
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 14: the coach of the Steelers.

977
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: The most ever. Is they going to red up the

978
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: house before anyone comes over.

979
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 15: Yeah. I bet he had a cookie table at his wedding.

980
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

981
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: I talked to the Petchi missus Hutt, and I is,

982
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: we're going to read up the house and she had

983
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: no idea. She had never heard of it before. You

984
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: got to start coming in here with they insurism once

985
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: a week because she didn't really believe that you folks

986
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: have your own dialect. Because Pittsburgh such a high tech place,

987
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: right with Carnegie, Mellon and pitt it's a high tech place.

988
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: It should not have its own dialect.

989
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 7: You know.

990
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 14: David McCollough, I mean, and everyone can agree to. David

991
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 14: McCollough had the most beautiful voice, right, and he said,

992
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 14: pronounce things so perfectly. He's from Pittsburgh.

993
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 15: And he said the one word in an interview with me,

994
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 15: he said, you know, the one word. I could never

995
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 15: get rid of his read I read up everything.

996
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought he was gonna say, quick h he

997
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: read up everything. Okay. Selena Zito, thank you for joining me.

998
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: Follow her on action at Zito Selena. You can read

999
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: everything that she writes if you will simply go to

1000
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: her website Selenazito dot com. Follow me always to my

1001
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: website as well as you hew It dot com and

1002
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: I'll be right back after these messages. Stay tuned to

1003
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: The Jewitt Show, Morning Glory, and even Grays America on

1004
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: Hugh Hewitt joined by Admirald Mark Montgomery, retired admiral from

1005
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: the United States Navy. He is with the Foundation for

1006
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: the Defensive Democracies. Admiral. It was just reported to a

1007
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: shows that Iran has said way, not now, not ever,

1008
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: and never will we give up whatever you want, President Trump,

1009
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: and they've cut off all communications. It's also reporting President

1010
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 1: Trump gave them a twenty four hour ultimatum. I can't

1011
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: confirm that that's what that ACTUEF says reporting what do

1012
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: you think is going to happen?

1013
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: Well, look, the President has done a great job of,

1014
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: you know, bringing together his offensive cost and position capabilities.

1015
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: That's the not just the aircraft carrier and its air wing,

1016
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: but the three destroyers and their Tomwawk missiles. I mean,

1017
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: I don't know this for a fact, but I'm going

1018
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: to bet some money that there's a higher class SSG

1019
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: and you know got you know, Tomahawk equipped submarine with

1020
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: lots of Tomawks on it, somewhere close enough in the

1021
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 3: Arabian Golf Arabian c And then we've got F fifteen's

1022
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 3: and other Air Force fider squadrons and Aludd and Qatar

1023
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 3: and other places in the Middle East.

1024
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: And of course we've got our B two's ready to

1025
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: go from the.

1026
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: Continental United States. That is collectively enough cost and position.

1027
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: The other thing he's done is begin to maneuver back

1028
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: into theater sufficient army air defense systems to begin to

1029
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: protect our eighteen to twenty spots where US forces are

1030
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: spread throughout Iraq, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE. We

1031
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: can't defend all of them all the time, all at once,

1032
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: but we can defend some of the larger concentration areas

1033
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: against an Iranian attacks. So the president's creating the conditions

1034
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 3: where he can impose his will on Iran.

1035
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: Now, Admiral the National Security Advisor equivalent in Iran has

1036
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: said any attack on anything in Iran will bring a

1037
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: response directed at the United States, but also at Israel.

1038
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: Do you think Israel can stand up to a fusilad

1039
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: like June again, So.

1040
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 3: Let's be clear, if it's the US alone striking them,

1041
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: the absolute last thing I would do if I was

1042
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 3: an Iranian planner is attack Israel because I just invited

1043
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: an equivalent or larger side of F thirty five fifteen

1044
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: fleet to come visit me the next day and the

1045
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: day after, and the day after and the day after,

1046
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 3: because with US refueling, it's unlimited. And you know, until

1047
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: the United States and Israel say, you know, and we've

1048
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 3: had enough. You know, so again, if they do that,

1049
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: they're gonna get some serious cost of position.

1050
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: Now they may well do it.

1051
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 3: And then your question is is there enough air defense

1052
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: in Israel? And the answer is, you know, they'll be

1053
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: challenged like they were last time. You know, missiles got through.

1054
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: They have great systems from Iron Dome to David Slang

1055
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: to Arrow to the US s M three's on the

1056
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: Ages class ships off in the Eastern Mediterranean and the

1057
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 3: remaining THAD elements, US Bad Elements.

1058
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot of missile defense there, Hugh. But some

1059
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: will get through. But Israel is a resilient country.

1060
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: They can take that, and their air force can impose

1061
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: maximum cost on Iran for doing it.

1062
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: Is our carrier at risk or our destroyers risk? And

1063
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: where do you put on the risk level? The basin

1064
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: Cutter and throughout the.

1065
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 3: Region, so the carrier and the destroyers have a high

1066
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 3: quality air defense systems, both point defense for the carrier

1067
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 3: and the destroyers and an area air defense for the

1068
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: destroyers which would encapsulatee the carrier. And of course the

1069
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: air wing provides air defense against drones and against cruise missiles,

1070
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: probably not against ballistic missiles. So all of that together

1071
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 3: makes them say, it makes them relatively secure. You never

1072
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: want to be arrogant enough to say nothing can hit me,

1073
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: and you need to plan properly and execute properly. But

1074
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 3: I think they're saying, you know, if you look back

1075
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 3: at literally several hundred cruise ballistic missiles and several hundred

1076
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 3: drones launched against our ships in the Red Sea operations

1077
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: over two years, none were hit. So we are good,

1078
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 3: but we shouldn't be arrogant. The bases are a different issue.

1079
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: Queue they can and will be hit if the Iranians

1080
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 3: can figure out which bases have the most porous air

1081
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: defense or non existent air defense around them, because I

1082
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: don't think we can defend all of them at all

1083
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 3: the time.

1084
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: And how many different would you guess how many different

1085
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: strikes can be executed within the initiation first wave. How

1086
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: many targets can we expect to disabled or destroy in

1087
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: the first strike?

1088
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: I mean, just so many. There's a lot that goes

1089
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: into that. So I'll just say, you know a lot

1090
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: of targets take multiple aim points. How many B twos

1091
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 3: do you want to involve? Do you want to really

1092
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 3: stretch your B two you know, to use everything that's

1093
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 3: not involved in your nuclears set aside. You know, some

1094
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: of the B twos are reserved for twenty four to

1095
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: seven nuclear missions, you know that kind of stuff. So,

1096
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 3: because the B twos can do a lot of striking.

1097
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: But what I would do is I do it deliberate

1098
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: several hundred strikes a day? You know, two to three

1099
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 3: to four hundred. We could go up to eight hundred

1100
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: one thousand if we wanted, but two to three four hundred,

1101
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: but dutover sustained ten or twelve day period where you're

1102
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 3: constantly reassessing where.

1103
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: Did they move, what did they flex, what do you show?

1104
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: Cause what we're going to try to do, my guess

1105
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 3: is our target set will be knock out their ballistic

1106
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: missile inventory, plus the ability to build future ballistic missiles,

1107
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: knock out their drone inventory plus their ability to build

1108
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 3: future drones, knock at their cruise missile inventory and that

1109
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 3: production capability and capacity.

1110
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: That's what I would take out first.

1111
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: There might be a little bit of IRGC leadership strikes

1112
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: involved as well, but I would really go for that

1113
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: production something that has really started to work over in

1114
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 3: the Twelve Day War but did not complete.

1115
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: Now, Bro, you are the executive director of the cyber

1116
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 1: Selarium when it was in play. Do the Iranians possess

1117
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: an offensive cyber capability that can be directed at the homeland?

1118
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 3: Yes, But so the yes is they could do something,

1119
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 3: but this is not China or Russia. They can do

1120
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: denial of service operations, minor things. I don't think they

1121
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: could do major power system disruptions, and they've tried hard

1122
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 3: against Israel and done again minor things, but not major.

1123
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 3: I think they would struggle against US to do a

1124
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 3: major disruption. The countries that can do that are you know,

1125
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: the US, Israel, China, Russia. I don't put Iran on

1126
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: that list. That doesn't mean they can't do They can disrupt,

1127
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: you know, do minor disruptions, things that make you know,

1128
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 3: one water system out here or one water system.

1129
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: Out there, but they're not going to be able to do.

1130
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: I think that electrical power grid takedown that affects like

1131
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: a major city.

1132
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: Now, I've had a lot of your colleagues on from

1133
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: the Foundation for the Defensive Democracies in the last few weeks.

1134
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: They have never not been in the assassination and terrorism business.

1135
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever found it in your wrist to study

1136
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: what potential they might have, either directly or indirectly through

1137
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: their proxies in the United States?

1138
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: Well, certainly, I mean both Department of Defense friends of mine,

1139
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: but also people here at FTD. You're under threat from Iran.

1140
00:57:54,080 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 3: Iran absolutely practices overseas assassinations against their.

1141
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: Own people, their own you know, uh.

1142
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: Overseas pro activist, protesters, dissident, but also.

1143
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 2: Against Americans they hold at risk.

1144
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: So the president is one they The President's on an

1145
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: Iranian allegedly on an Iranian kill list. You know Frank

1146
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: mcgeneral McKenzie, General Millie, you know Secretary Esper, John Bolton,

1147
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 3: Matt Pottinger, you know, the former, the leadership from the Nation,

1148
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: curity leadership from Trump forty five or broadly on these lists,

1149
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: which is why they need security details and protection. And

1150
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 3: the President among most of all needs to be protected

1151
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: against them. But I think it's much more likely that

1152
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 3: if the President decided to do something about the Supreme Leader,

1153
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: that would happen before something happened to the president.

1154
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you were in uniform when the war

1155
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: against Libya was undertaken and that war brought down Libya.

1156
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that you were in the service when

1157
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: the war against Serbia was undertaken. That war brought it down.

1158
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: Kennan Air Camp pain exclusively cause the regime to collapse,

1159
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: in your opinion in Iran, because I don't think so,

1160
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know enough.

1161
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: So I participated in both of those, and i'd say

1162
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: the answers no. I mean, I just think the IRGC

1163
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: is one hundred and hundred and twenty five hundred and

1164
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 3: fifty thousand strong.

1165
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: They are not going to go down.

1166
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: I mean, most of those guys understand that if the

1167
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: opposition takes over, their life expectancy is going to shorten dramatically.

1168
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 3: So they're going to fight, stand and fight. So that

1169
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 3: would be a lot of a lot of costant position

1170
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 3: from the air against ground target mobile ground targets.

1171
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: That's going to be very hard. So I think it's

1172
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: very hard.

1173
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: Do I think we can create conditions where it's where

1174
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: the governing mechanisms are weakened. Yes, But I think it's

1175
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: going to take a lot more I think we have

1176
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 3: to do. There's gonna have to be a lot more

1177
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: weakening personally. Before I did this air campaign, I would

1178
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 3: do three to six months of strangulation of their so

1179
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: fuel sales. I would grab, I would embargo and seize

1180
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: every shadow Fleet ship bringing oil from Iran to China.

1181
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 3: I would put a prize crew on it and take

1182
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 3: it back to the United States as a prize as

1183
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: our prize.

1184
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 12: I one.

1185
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 3: I think that we should put the economic pain onto Iran,

1186
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 3: weaken the regime further, and then do the air campaign.

1187
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: Now, Admeral, I don't know if you can stand in

1188
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: a segment, if you can tell Dua anyone, we'll go this.

1189
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: But would you answer for me? Uh, Cars Island has

1190
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: never been on a target list?

1191
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: Why is that?

1192
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 3: I don't let's let's separate. Has it been our target

1193
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: list for us? Have we actually executed a strike?

1194
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 7: You know?

1195
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: In other words, do I think it's targeted? Yes?

1196
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: Do I think that that it's been struck? No, I'm

1197
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: not certain why. I've never been in a political discussion.

1198
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 3: We're told not to strike it.

1199
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: I just feel that, like when we're.

1200
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: Doing our costant position back in nineteen eighty eight, we

1201
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: did cost a position after the Iraq you know, the

1202
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 3: oil the oil ships being sung.

1203
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: We went after their naval ships. It's a punish stem

1204
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: for their illegal behavior.

1205
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: Operation Praying Man and I got to go to break

1206
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: on the Sane News Channel. I will find out if

1207
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,959
Speaker 1: Admiral Montgomery can stay with us, continue watching Town News Channel,

1208
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: stay tuned at this radio station, if being in a car.

1209
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: If he can, he'll come back after the break. I'll

1210
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: ask him more questions like those I've been asking him.

1211
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, Welcome back America for Amerald Mark Montgomery, retarding

1212
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: United States Navy has stayed with me a senior fellow

1213
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: at the Foundation for the Defensive Democracy. So, Admiral, you've

1214
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: followed Donald Trump as I followed him through the news media.

1215
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you've talked with him off the record. I don't

1216
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: know what do you think he's going to do when

1217
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: he issued a twenty four hour ultimatum that the Iranians

1218
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: turned out. I have my guess, But what do you think?

1219
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 3: So I think that means he's eventually going to strike,

1220
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 3: and not three months from now, but within the next

1221
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 3: thirty days, because I look, I hope it.

1222
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: Isn't at twenty three hours fifty nine minutes we hit him.

1223
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 3: I mean, and he did get that one twenty four

1224
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 3: hour one and then the Israeli struck with it, but.

1225
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: That was Israeli forces. You know that we're kind of

1226
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: on his timeline.

1227
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: I hope that he and General Raisin Kine, our chairman

1228
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: of the Joint Chiefs, have had a discussion about how,

1229
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 3: you know, we can't just go at the exact moment

1230
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 3: he said we would go, because that's alerting a otherwise

1231
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: not that consequential defense system that someone's coming. So my

1232
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 3: guess is that you know, he'll do something at the

1233
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 3: twenty four hour period, maybe some cost and position through

1234
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: through embargo operations like I mentioned, but eventually, you know, Hugh,

1235
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: I think we're going to strike him.

1236
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: I think he's pissed.

1237
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: So talk me through the best case scenario and the

1238
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: worst case scenario from your perspective atmal Montgomery.

1239
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 3: So, I think the best case scenario is a wealth

1240
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 3: thought out, deliberate ten to twelve days strike along with Israel.

1241
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 3: Israel might as well be in it with us, because

1242
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 3: as you as we alluded to in the previous segment,

1243
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 3: it's you know, in it or not. They're probably going

1244
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: to be the receiver of, you know, a lot of

1245
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 3: ballistic missiles, so might as well.

1246
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: Be in it from the get go.

1247
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 3: But a well orchestrated, you know, ten twelve day campaign

1248
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 3: that really removes the Iranian ballistic cruise and missile and

1249
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 3: drone production facilities and their existing inventory. And then you know,

1250
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 3: if there are legitimate nuclear targets remaining, I'd hit those

1251
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 3: as well, I don't.

1252
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: I think we in the Israelis took care of that, and.

1253
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 3: Anything that we didn't take care of is a is

1254
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: hidden in a way that would be hard for us

1255
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: to hit.

1256
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm not going to have too much

1257
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: on that. And then, as we alluded to earlier, there's.

1258
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: A decision on what type of senior leadership cost a

1259
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 3: position you do. Do you try to kill the supreme

1260
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 3: leader do you just work over their senioradership? And boy

1261
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: they got worked over last year in the twelve day war.

1262
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: You know, those were big target sets for the Israelis,

1263
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: and they did some serious damage to the leadership of

1264
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: almost all these organizations.

1265
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: Would you, if you were advising them present, advise him

1266
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: to destroy the oil export industry because it seems to

1267
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: me the IRGC has no other source of hard currency

1268
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 1: with which to pay the people who depend upon them

1269
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: to be paid.

1270
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 3: I wouldn't, but that's because I say, grab the illegal ships,

1271
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 3: you know, the shadow fleet ships delivering the.

1272
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: Fossil fuel. I would go at it that way.

1273
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 3: I think hitting something that you then have to rebuild

1274
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: as you're reconstituting a country, you know's that's an expensive endeavor.

1275
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 3: I look at Ukraine today, or I look at you know,

1276
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 3: Iraq in two thousand and seven, in two thousand and eight.

1277
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: You know, I would not want to impose that rebuilding costs,

1278
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 3: and I would instead try to grab the ships.

1279
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: What is the worst case. So that people are fully aware,

1280
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm aware of threats to sailors, soldier deirmen, and marines.

1281
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: I want the audience to hear you talk about that. Well, look,

1282
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 3: I mean they will be they will fire at some point.

1283
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 3: This is an existential threat to the regime there, and

1284
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: they will fire everything they have and and they have

1285
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 3: chemical weapons. You know, they have used chemical weapons in

1286
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,959
Speaker 3: the past, so our forces will need to be ready

1287
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 3: for everything.

1288
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: And uh so, you know, I'm from the school.

1289
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 3: You know you have to assume something could get through,

1290
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: So you have to have maximum defenses up. You have

1291
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: to you have to establish defense positions after you do

1292
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 3: your strikes.

1293
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: You have to get everything right. You look, our officers,

1294
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm not worried. They're not arrogant. They're they're they they're.

1295
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 3: Looking and managing risks properly. The ones who are going

1296
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 3: to be challenged are the ones with a fixed GPS.

1297
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 3: Those are the airfields some of our troop concentration areas.

1298
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: You know, we're really going to have to defend those well,

1299
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 3: and they're going to have to be ready for any

1300
01:05:59,520 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 3: kind of strike.

1301
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 2: And you know, we have tough soldiers.

1302
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 3: But you know, in the end of you know, ballistic

1303
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: missiles of you know, it's going mocked six and weighs

1304
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 3: a couple thousand pounds, it's going to do some damage.

1305
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: I remind people that when they targeted Alasad Air Base

1306
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: in the aftermath of the killing of soil Money, they

1307
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: hit it. They actually hit it. Know, their missiles are

1308
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: not the junk that Saddama is saying had in nineteen

1309
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: ninety one. How many of those do they have?

1310
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's an interesting thing. So Israel did some damage

1311
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: to that and they fired a ton you know.

1312
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 3: By all reports, I think that forty to fifty percent

1313
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: were either expended or destroyed in the last attacks. And

1314
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: we have done a pretty good job, and it is

1315
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: raised do a good job trying to prevent the reconstruct,

1316
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, the replenishment of that.

1317
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: But you know, the Chinese have been a little duplicitous.

1318
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 3: In this, illegally shipping something more some of the other

1319
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: chemicals and fuel necessary for some of the weapons, so

1320
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 3: they are reconstituting slightly, you know, but this is going

1321
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 3: to be in the high hundreds, right, the totality of

1322
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 3: these numbers, and the drones are much higher numbers, but

1323
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 3: on the cruise of ballistic missile few that's a lot.

1324
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: Can the drums delivered chemical weapons?

1325
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 3: I have not seen that, even in Russia or elsewhere

1326
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 3: that doesn't But that's the answer is could they I'm

1327
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 3: almost sure they could have they I have not seen that.

1328
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: Is there any scenario in the front of your mind,

1329
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: not some science fiction novel, but anything in the front

1330
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: of your mind that would lead to President Trump deploying

1331
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: troops in Iran.

1332
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: Not in the front of my mind. I mean, look,

1333
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: you asked worst case.

1334
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 3: I mean we could get into some kind of campaign

1335
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 3: where damage is inflicted on us that the President finds

1336
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 3: to be unacceptable, and then we get ourselves into a

1337
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 3: unity of campaign that includes ground ups.

1338
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: I don't foresee that.

1339
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 3: I just think that, you know, if we've learned anything since,

1340
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 3: you know, in the last twenty four years, is to

1341
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 3: avoid that kind of ground campaign.

1342
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: Okah, very last question to add. Do they have the

1343
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: capacity to shoot down our stealthy aircraft other than by

1344
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: a lucky shot.

1345
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 3: No, now we say today the capability to do it. No, that,

1346
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 3: but again there could be a ballistic shot. There could

1347
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: be a weapon that goes off nearby that you know

1348
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: it's something else, and a piece of frag you know,

1349
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 3: fragment gets into an engine.

1350
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 2: We do have some single engine planes.

1351
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: We have in the United States. We have Yeah, it

1352
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: happened here, so it could happen there in a war zone.

1353
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: What do we do if that happens, We go get them.

1354
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: We will have a team standing by.

1355
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 3: I think geography, you know, location, location, location, Downtown Tehran

1356
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 3: might be a toughie, but we'll have uh, we would

1357
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 3: have teams search and rescue, combat search and rescue team

1358
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 3: standing by different locations to service different geographies.

1359
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: But there are limitations to that.

1360
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: Okay. So in your life as a warrior, how many

1361
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: times have you had this feeling about imminent conflict? Probably

1362
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: six or seven and anything different about this one.

1363
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: It has happened five or six.

1364
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 3: So no, Look, what's unusual is this president's just so

1365
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,560
Speaker 3: forward leaning on the rhetoric, you know, which is he

1366
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 3: does it for effect?

1367
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's not. This is not shirlish, right, this

1368
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 2: is this is how he seeks leverage, and so it's

1369
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:40,560
Speaker 2: very unpredictable.

1370
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 3: For those of us who haven't dealt with who were

1371
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 3: not New York real estate people for thirty years, we're

1372
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 3: not used to this. So you know, my take is

1373
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 3: that when a president uses this kind of language, go

1374
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 3: time is coming.

1375
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Mark Montgomery, retired, Donald, thank you for

1376
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: joining me today. We'll stay in touch. I hope you'll

1377
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: be available throughout the weeks ahead, as this thing is

1378
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: getting hotter by the moment and we need to talk

1379
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: to experts. Thank you, Admiral. I'll be right back in America.

1380
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: Take in Sarah Bedford, Mary Katherineham coming up. Welcome back

1381
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: in America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Ce Bedford is with the

1382
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: Washington Examiner. She's the exact lead political investigative reporter. Sarah,

1383
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: are you iced in in d C?

1384
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 16: Yes, we have been iced in all week. School is

1385
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 16: canceled again tomorrow. Just really hunkered down over here.

1386
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: So has it moved from snowstorm to government screw up yet,

1387
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: because that's the way these stories usually go, snowstorm, ice storm,

1388
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: then they become government inability to respond. What's it like

1389
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: inside the Beltway?

1390
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,879
Speaker 16: It's certainly started to appear that way in the DC areas.

1391
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 16: A lot of really main roads in DuPont Circle and

1392
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 16: key arteries of DC still haven't been cleared. And so yeah,

1393
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 16: there's a lot of criticism of the city. It's a

1394
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 16: really high tax area, so people expect those sort of

1395
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 16: basic services to be performed.

1396
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: Well, you know, basic services in Washington, DC have never

1397
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: been all that impressive outside of the federal triangle. How

1398
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: about power? Have you lost power?

1399
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 16: Luckily in northern Virginia out here, we've been pretty fortunate

1400
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 16: on the power and waterfront, although I watched all the

1401
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 16: how to tiktoks about how to like keep you know,

1402
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 16: water in the bathtub if you needed it.

1403
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 11: So I was ready.

1404
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 8: That happened.

1405
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: Now are you ready for Iran going off? Because Admiral

1406
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: Montgomery retired just said getting pretty close to go time here.

1407
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 16: Yeah, Donald Trump, it was sort of making some noise

1408
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 16: about this this week, saying, you know, if Iran doesn't

1409
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 16: start to acquiesce to some of these demands about the

1410
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 16: nuclear program, that the US could strike Iran even harder

1411
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 16: than it did last year. And Ruby, I was about

1412
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 16: to say. Senator Rubio, Secretary of Saint Rubio, today testified

1413
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 16: about the complexity of the situation and how the US

1414
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 16: is moving assets into the region as a baseline just

1415
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 16: in so there certainly does seem to be some movement.

1416
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 8: On that front.

1417
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: Now, this is a question only someone inside the Beltwait

1418
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: can answer. Does it feel like we're on the edge

1419
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: of war? Because nineteen ninety one it did, two thousand

1420
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: and one, it did, two thousand and three, it did.

1421
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: I didn't see it coming on Operation Midnight Hammer. I

1422
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: think it feels that way again, what do you think, Well,

1423
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: Donald trab.

1424
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 11: Loves to play those types of things close to the vest.

1425
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 16: If you're talking about, you know, the first strike in

1426
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 16: Iran or even the capture of Maduro in Venezuela. There's

1427
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 16: never really a tipping of the hand from the Trump administration.

1428
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 16: But I also think this doesn't feel the vibes are

1429
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 16: not that the US is potentially about to go to war,

1430
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 16: because there's so much going on domestically that's really sidetracked

1431
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 16: Washington's attention. It's kind of amazing that potential military action

1432
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 16: in the Middle East is like maybe the third or

1433
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 16: fourth subplot in Washington right now. Because you have everything

1434
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 16: going on in Minneapolis with immigrations and customs enforcement, and

1435
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 16: because you do have a government shutdown coming up in

1436
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 16: just a couple of days, Congress is really distracted from

1437
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 16: this sort of thing.

1438
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: Well, that's what strikes me as incredible, Sarah. Two people

1439
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: are dead in Minnesota. Those are tragedies. But thirty five

1440
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 1: thousand people have been murdered in Iran. That's one estimate.

1441
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: Certainly more than twenty thousand people have been ready by

1442
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: the regime. And if we go to war. Marco Rubio said,

1443
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: we've got forty thousand service people in harms way in Iran.

1444
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 1: Something's wrong with our media. They cannot seem to be

1445
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: proportionate with regard to threat assessment or am I wrong?

1446
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 11: No, I think that's absolutely right.

1447
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 16: They're sort of not seeing the forest for the trees

1448
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 16: and how big of a deal this is. And you

1449
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 16: don't hear a lot of the left, which really typically

1450
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 16: concerns itself quite a great deal with human rights abuses

1451
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 16: and fighting autocracy and things like that. You haven't heard

1452
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 16: any of those groups that typically make, you know, defending

1453
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 16: those things their identity. They're not speaking up in favor

1454
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 16: of the Iranian protesters.

1455
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 1: And has there been any I'm just talking about random

1456
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: conversation or have you seen anything on the news about

1457
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: the level of conflict we are on the edge up?

1458
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: Because I have not.

1459
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 16: No, I think you're totally right. That's nowhere near the

1460
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 16: sort of top of mind for anyone. The vibes are

1461
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 16: not that there's about to be a major conflict. That's

1462
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 16: probably exactly how the Trump administration wants it to feel.

1463
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 11: But with everything else going.

1464
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 16: On, even lawmakers who typically are very concerned with the

1465
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 16: administration's foreign policy actions don't seem to have this as

1466
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 16: a top priority, and has.

1467
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: Homeland security to your knowledge, issued any kind of special

1468
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: alert for the Beltway about Hezballah or other Iranian proxies

1469
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: in the aftermath of the beginning of a conflict.

1470
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 16: Not to my knowledge, No, DHS is pretty distracted these

1471
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 16: days with some other things, so perhaps not surprising that

1472
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 16: that's not the top message that they're pushing out right now.

1473
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: And last question about DHS, do Secretary Nome stay in

1474
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: her job another month?

1475
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 11: There's a lot of uncertainty there.

1476
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 16: We know that Donald Trump doesn't like to fire people,

1477
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 16: he doesn't like to give critics a scalp when things

1478
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 16: go wrong. But at the same time, you see a

1479
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 16: sort of surprising level of reluctance among Senate Republicans, especially

1480
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 16: to defend know him, in the face of how badly

1481
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 16: Dress is handled the past week of pr surrounding the tragedy.

1482
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 11: As you mentioned with Alex pretty well.

1483
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: The surefire way that it will be a race from

1484
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: the headlines if war breaks up. But I don't think

1485
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: Donald Trump would go to war to get it off

1486
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: the front pages.

1487
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 17: Do you.

1488
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 11: No, that's certainly not his moo'.

1489
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: He's not a wag the dog guy. He's a crush

1490
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: the bad guys guy. Sarah seed Bedford follow on exit

1491
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: Sarah ce Bedford. Thank you coming up, Mary Katherine Ham,

1492
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: co host of Getting Hammered, the podcast that is Essential ANDed. Hi,

1493
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: it's you, Hewett. You've heard me talk a lot about

1494
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: Consumer Selluler, how you can switch your carrier and save

1495
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: money without sacrifice. That's because Consumer Cellular uses the same

1496
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: towers is the major carrier. You'll save money every month

1497
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 1: on your bill without having to sacrifice the quality of coverage.

1498
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: Right now, you get your second month free plus. Folks

1499
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: over fifty get two lines of unlimited talk, text and

1500
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: data for sixty dollars a month. That's in addition to

1501
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: the second month totally free using promo code. Q and

1502
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: are you tired of your wireless company telling you have

1503
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: to talk to an AI robot, download an app or

1504
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: on Horizon pay ten dollars to talk to someone when

1505
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: paying your bill? Yeah? No thanks. Consumer Cellular ranks number

1506
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: one for network coverage and customer satisfaction. According to ACSI,

1507
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: whether you're switching online or over the phone, you'll be

1508
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 1: working with an actual human being based right here in

1509
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: the US. So switch and get your second month free

1510
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,759
Speaker 1: plus two unlimited lines of sixty dollars. If you're over fifty,

1511
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: go to consumer silar dot com, slash u promo HU

1512
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: or call one hundred eight or call one eight hundred

1513
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: four one one forty four fifty four one eight hundred

1514
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 1: four to one one forty four to fifty four. That's

1515
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: one eight hundred and four one one forty four fifty four,

1516
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: and don't forget my code.

1517
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 3: Is you.

1518
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: Welcome back in there? I'm Hugh Hewett. I'm so pleased

1519
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: to have Mary Katherine ham because I got a thanker,

1520
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: Mary Catherine. I spent the morning seven am West Coast

1521
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: time in the dentist chair having a long and somewhat

1522
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: painful procedure done. But I was listening to the new

1523
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: Getting Hammered with you and Vick talking about not letting

1524
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: your kids sled down the ice and run into things.

1525
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: I was very amused. And then it's a brand new

1526
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 1: use for the Getting Hammered podcast is when you go

1527
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: to the dentist. He said, I don't care what you

1528
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: listen to, and I said, great, listen.

1529
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 17: I'm so glad and I attribute your miraculous recovery to.

1530
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 11: Be on the radio now to us.

1531
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: Actually I think it's it's maybe it should just play

1532
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: on a loop in dentist's office everywhere. Mary Catherine, I laughed, though,

1533
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 1: and I wasn't supposed to laugh when you said you

1534
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't let your kids go sledding because it's not really

1535
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: snow out there. It's Is it that bad?

1536
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 11: It's like an ice slick? I mean, if you, like

1537
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,759
Speaker 11: I said, I have two mom friends.

1538
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 17: Who've already hurt their hips. I do not need to

1539
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 17: be out there. And the kids are more resilient than

1540
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 17: I am at this point in their lives.

1541
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 11: But I do think shooting them down a hill like

1542
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 11: bullets might not be the best idea for our week.

1543
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, what in my family can't leave their house snow? Fine,

1544
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: they can't go down their street because their city is

1545
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: not plowed their street and it's just one hundred percent ice?

1546
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 7: Is it?

1547
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: Has it turned into fiasco? Yet? There's a there's a

1548
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: period of time in which a snowstorm is a snowstorm.

1549
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: Then it becomes a government can't do anything. Story are

1550
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: we there yet?

1551
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 17: So we are not there in Virginia, but I think

1552
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 17: they are in d C. Virginia's roads are doing a

1553
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 17: little bit better because the temperature has stayed so low.

1554
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 17: The sun hasn't done the work and the temperature hasn't

1555
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 17: done the work that the DC government usually is incapable

1556
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 17: of doing. So the DC government is having to answer

1557
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 17: for the fact that it cannot clear these streets. And

1558
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 17: apparently I saw some graphic where they had twenty of

1559
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 17: some two hundred snowplows operating.

1560
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 11: You might need a few more guys.

1561
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's bad out there.

1562
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:13,799
Speaker 1: So I also listened to you to disambaguate the goings

1563
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: on Minneapolis, and you're a big fan of body Camp,

1564
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: so am I. I have a proposition for you, Mary Catherine.

1565
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 1: We are used to instant replaying sports, and therefore people

1566
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: think they can get smart by watching these videos at

1567
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: slow motion angled. They can't. You can't actually discern what's

1568
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 1: going on without an expert in the room and being

1569
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: an expert yourself. I think it's a very bad thing

1570
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: that America thinks they can figure out by watching enough angles.

1571
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 11: What do you think, Yeah, here's the thing. It's this

1572
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 11: double edged sword.

1573
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 17: Right where we have all this information, but the information

1574
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 17: is not necessarily making us smarter or better at discerning things.

1575
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 17: So I do think there's a concern here, and I

1576
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 17: think there's a concern here too about all of us

1577
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 17: responding too quickly to seeing viral video or video period

1578
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 17: and making quick decisions.

1579
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 11: And that includes, by the way, the.

1580
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 17: Administration, which should be much slower to tweet and talk

1581
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 17: definitively about these things. As you note, Hugh, the legal

1582
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 17: standard is set for what law enforcement is allowed to

1583
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 17: do and how these things are adjudicated, and those decisions

1584
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 17: are based on what the officer perceives in that split second,

1585
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 17: not in slow moo, not being able to take in

1586
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 17: seventeen angles.

1587
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,480
Speaker 11: He gets one angle, and he gets one split second.

1588
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 5: To make a decision.

1589
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 17: So it's very different from the legal standard when you're

1590
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 17: looking at it eight hundred times in slow mo and

1591
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 17: from seven different angles. Although I am glad we have

1592
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 17: all this information, I just don't think we're the best

1593
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 17: at discerning it.

1594
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: No, I have no opinions on justified use of force.

1595
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: I know that the last person who wants to be

1596
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: involved in an officer involved shooting, as the officer as

1597
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: well as the victim. They just don't like it. It's

1598
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: bad for them, it's bad for their career, in their

1599
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: mental health, it's bad for the department. They don't want

1600
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: it to happen. With that all said, I have followed

1601
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: the fought Digital Teams inquiry into the Signal group and

1602
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 1: the What's up chat that's going on. This is a conspiracy.

1603
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 1: It's like you're too young, you wouldn't remember the Weathermen,

1604
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: But that was a real deal. The Simineese Liberation Army,

1605
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: the Black Panthers, the Weathermen. There was a lot of

1606
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: violence in the sixties and the seventies. Do you think

1607
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: we're going back there?

1608
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 17: Look, I think it is so naive and silly for

1609
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 17: people to act like this is all just protesting, and

1610
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 17: that law enforcements very mad at protesters. That's not all

1611
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 17: that's happening here, right And unfortunately, left wing agitation, left

1612
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 17: wing violence is either ignored, valorized, or alchemized into right

1613
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 17: wing violence if they need to do that. And as

1614
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 17: a result, left wing violence never gets a corrective of

1615
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 17: any kind. And it should and these kinds of things

1616
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 17: should not be putting law enforcement and civilians into pitched

1617
01:21:54,960 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 17: encounters many times per day because by the way, cheered

1618
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 17: on by the local government and local leaders, which they

1619
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 17: should not be. As well, as you said, nobody wants

1620
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 17: to be in these confrontations, But the more of them

1621
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 17: you press, as left wing protesters and agitators have years

1622
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 17: of practicing going over this line, over this line, over

1623
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 17: this line, until there's no line anymore, you're just going

1624
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 17: to get more dangerous encounters.

1625
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 11: And I really hope that we can find a.

1626
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 17: Climbed down position where localities recognize that federal law has

1627
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 17: to be enforced and there's somebody who's in charge of

1628
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 17: enforcing it.

1629
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: What is the political theory of the people who don't

1630
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: want ICE in their community, Jacob Prye, What do you

1631
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 1: think is their overall theory about people who entered the

1632
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: country illegally.

1633
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 11: I mean, look, you could.

1634
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 17: Look at it as his good faith argument is that

1635
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 17: these are all our neighbors. But the ones who are

1636
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 17: truly criminal actors who are convicted, which is some of

1637
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 17: the folks that ICE was trying to pick up on

1638
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 17: the first days here, with these really violent convicted criminals

1639
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 17: that they're not helping with, that doesn't make a lot

1640
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 17: of sense to me. I think a lot of it

1641
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 17: is is that these very left wing cities, particularly post

1642
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 17: twenty twenty, they've always been in the left wing protest culture,

1643
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 17: which is part of this and what's driving these confrontations

1644
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 17: and making things more dangerous. But you know what protest

1645
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 17: culture papers over is the fact that you can't plow

1646
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 17: your streets, which is probably.

1647
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 11: Not the case in Minneapolis because they have a lot of.

1648
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: Experence that but in DC.

1649
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 11: In a place like DC, if you're not providing basic.

1650
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 17: Services and you're doing all of that stuff incompetently, it's

1651
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 17: helpful to have.

1652
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 11: This other stuff going on.

1653
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 1: Frankly, turn towards the Persian Golf or the Arabian Sea

1654
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: or whatever we're calling it. It's not the Gulf of

1655
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: America where the Lincoln is and all the destroyers. What

1656
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: does Mary Katherine Ham think happens next?

1657
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 17: I am concerned that people are left to languish in

1658
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 17: Iran after having been.

1659
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 11: Encouraged to come out, and I hope that's not the case.

1660
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 17: And I know that we're probably clandestinely helping as well

1661
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 17: in Iran.

1662
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 11: But I'm concerned that people are being left out to

1663
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:05,799
Speaker 11: dry there. I would note also.

1664
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 17: From the Middle East, just on a good note this week,

1665
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 17: that the idea that all the hostages remains in live

1666
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 17: hostages would come home from Gaza to Israel thanks to

1667
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 17: the stage set by Israel, Israeli and Trump negotiators is

1668
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 17: close to a miracle that I would never have predicted

1669
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 17: possible a year or two ago, and so I want

1670
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 17: to keep my mind open to the idea that more

1671
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 17: amazing things could happen.

1672
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: You're right because this is the first time since twenty

1673
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: fourteen that there hasn't been a hostage debt or alive

1674
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 1: in Gaza. Think about that, America a dozen years since

1675
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: we've been in this position and Israel's been in this position.

1676
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: Mary Catherine ham can be heard on the Getting Hammered

1677
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: podcast with Vic Matdows and you can follow on x

1678
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: at Mkay Hammer. Thank you, Mary Catherine hamm. I'll be

1679
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: right back to America speak.