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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show.

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Speaker 1: The follow ups from the Joe Kent resonation letter continues

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Speaker 1: Tulsey Gabbert and highly related new satisfying earlier today on

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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. Meanwhile, sparks flying in Mark wayn Mullen's own

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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill confirmation hearing to be the next DHS Secretary.

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Speaker 1: We have an update for you when it comes to

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Speaker 1: John Thune and the Save America Act, this indispensable piece

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Speaker 1: of voter id legislation. There's much gets you when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Capitol Hill, but for now, we're going to

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Speaker 1: begin with first principles. Alexander Hamilton, one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: founding fathers, a founding father who, frankly, from my estimation,

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Speaker 1: tends to be underweighted in the pantheon of American great

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Speaker 1: intellect and man, was at times overshadowed by men like

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Speaker 1: James Madison, men like Thomas Jefferson, men frankly like his

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Speaker 1: fellow Federalist Party member himself from America's initial two party system,

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Speaker 1: George Washington. Hamilton, oft the times, was under the shadows,

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Speaker 1: least until the recent Badway play that bears his name

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Speaker 1: came to light.

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Speaker 2: Over the past decade.

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Speaker 1: Your mileage may vary when it comes to that Broadway play,

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Speaker 1: but in any events, his legacy tended to be obscured

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Speaker 1: for a long time. He was full of brilliant insights,

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Speaker 1: and one of his greatest insights, in my estimation, comes

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Speaker 1: in his opening sentence of Federalist Number thirty one. So

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Speaker 1: we're called the Federals Papers, or of these papers that

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Speaker 1: were written on behalf of the ratification of the United

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Speaker 1: States Constitution. They were all written under the pseudonym of Publius.

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Speaker 2: We now know that the.

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Speaker 1: Authors of the Federal's Papers were Alexander Hamilton, James Madison,

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Speaker 1: and John Jay. Hamilton actually wrote the majority of them.

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Speaker 1: He was the most frequent author. So Alexander Hamilton, this

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Speaker 1: is not necessarily one of his most well known Federalist papers.

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Speaker 1: You'd probably go to I says like Federalists seventy eight

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Speaker 1: or seventy for that. But the opening line of Alexander

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Speaker 1: Hamilton writing in Federalists Number thirty one is this. He writes, quote,

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Speaker 1: in disquisitions of every kind, there are certain primary truths,

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Speaker 1: or first principles, upon which all all subsequent reasonings must depend.

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Speaker 1: What he is saying to translate that into contemporary, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily eighteenth century English. Is what he's saying is that

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Speaker 1: when you are engaged in logical reasoning, when you're having

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Speaker 1: a conversation. He used the word disquisition here, I means essay,

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Speaker 1: when you're having a conversation, you're writing an essay, or

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Speaker 1: having a colloqu we, a conversation, any kind of back

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Speaker 1: and forth dialogue. It is self evident. He says that

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Speaker 1: there are certain primary truths or first principles upon which

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Speaker 1: all subsequent reasonings depend. In other words, you have to

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Speaker 1: start somewhere if you're going to have a conversation about

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Speaker 1: public policy, about morality, about ethics, about politics, for national security, anything.

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Speaker 1: You can't just have it in a vacuum. You have

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Speaker 1: to know where you start. That then raises the obvious

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Speaker 1: question as to what are those primary truths or first principles.

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Speaker 1: A lot of American natural rights theorists then go back

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Speaker 1: to the Decoration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson in

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Speaker 1: just a little over a decade prior to the Federal's papers,

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Speaker 1: where they say that we hold these truths to be

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Speaker 1: self evidence that every man is create equal in annual

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Speaker 1: rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness and so forth.

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Speaker 1: There that is one possible answer, a closely related possible

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Speaker 1: answer as to what these primary truths or anchoring principles

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Speaker 1: are is revelation is the actual Bible itself? Frankly, in

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Speaker 1: any ways, that is my own answer, as I wrote

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Speaker 1: about a great length in my book last year, is

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Speaker 1: real and civilization. But the point is that you have

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Speaker 1: to believe in something. You can't just be outraged for

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Speaker 1: the sake of being outraged. This is all too common,

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Speaker 1: dare I say it's actually even ubiquitous in our era.

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Speaker 1: There are so many people, whether they are social media influencers,

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Speaker 1: whether they're reporters, television hosts, you name it, who are

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Speaker 1: think it gets clicks, or for some other self serving reason.

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Speaker 1: They are trying to make you angry because they think

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Speaker 1: that maybe you want to feel angry, maybe you want

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Speaker 1: it's better for their audience retention to make you angry. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: in many ways, maybe actually they think it's better for

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Speaker 1: you to be stupider. I've been referring to this for

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Speaker 1: psychological warfare. There is a concerted effort, both inside and

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Speaker 1: away from having what Hamilton refers to as these anchoring

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Speaker 1: We believe in substantive justice, in rewarding good and punishing evil,

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Speaker 1: and borders and nationalism. There's a lot of things we

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Speaker 1: believe in. But this, this brain rot off is intended

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Speaker 1: to get you to forget all that and to just

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Speaker 1: be outraged and transgressive, to stick it to the man,

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Speaker 1: to stick two middle fingers to the quote unquote establishment

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Speaker 1: over the issue of the day. I think back sometimes

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Speaker 1: to this sign that maybe you've seen way back fifteen

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Speaker 1: circa two thousand and nine twenty ten. And it was

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Speaker 1: a protester who was quillly inspired by the anti establishment,

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Speaker 1: anti Washington rhetoric of the Tea Party era, the Gadsden Flag,

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Speaker 1: the coiled snake, don't tread on me, and all that.

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Speaker 1: A lot of good stuff in there, for sure, But

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Speaker 1: this protester signed, and I'm thinking of here, somewhat infamously

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Speaker 1: said get your big government hands off my Medicare. And

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Speaker 1: the reason this sign has stuck with me is because

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Speaker 1: that is an oxymoron. Medicare, a Lyndon B. Johnson Great

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Speaker 1: Society welfare program is the definition of big government. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying gut Medicare. I do think it's financially unsustainable,

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Speaker 1: and we'reant to address that soon rather than later. But

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Speaker 1: this an example of someone who is outraged, not necessarily

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Speaker 1: because he's fully thought it through. He's not outraged because

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Speaker 1: of what Hamilton referred to as anchoring truths or first principles.

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Speaker 1: He is outraged for the sake of being outraged. We

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Speaker 1: see this today in a slightly different context. We are

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Speaker 1: now many many years past the Tea Party era. We

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the Republican Party, the Concerned Movement,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the era of mag Got, the

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Speaker 1: era of Donald Trump, we are at an age not

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Speaker 1: defined by Tea Party era notions of limited governments and

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Speaker 1: a libertarian inspired conservatism.

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Speaker 2: Quite the opposite. Today.

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Speaker 1: We are now in an era of national populism, national conservatism,

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Speaker 1: of using government a bit more robustly for the sake

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Speaker 1: to a lot of this theory, spoken at the National

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Speaker 1: Surgeon Conferences, written countless essays, It's in my book, It's

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Speaker 1: not saying this is a bad thing, but when it

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Speaker 1: comes to this Maga national populist context, what you are

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Speaker 1: seeing now is a different form of outrage and performative

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Speaker 1: outrage at that, and the people who are trying to

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Speaker 1: be transgressive and stick it to the establishment simply for

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Speaker 1: the sake of being transgressive and not actually having thought

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Speaker 1: things through. Just like that Tea Party erasign your big

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Speaker 1: government hands off my medicare so too today do we

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Speaker 1: see plenty of people and we're gonna get to Joe

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Speaker 1: Kent here in just a moment. Plenty of people who

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Speaker 1: are outraged, not because as they have thought things through,

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Speaker 1: to drive you mad, because they have themselves contributed to

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Speaker 1: today's program. So you're seeing this play out today. This

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Speaker 1: this notion of being outraged performatively or trying to transgress

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Speaker 1: the man, transgress the establishment, transgress perceived orthodoxy, perceiving norms.

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Speaker 1: But now it's not necessarily taking this intellectually muddled way

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Speaker 1: It's not this Tea Party era counter establishment sensation. Now

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Speaker 1: today really the issue above all, believe it or not, tends.

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Speaker 2: To be the Jews and Israel.

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Speaker 1: Which is consuming so much of the attention from this

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Speaker 1: sprawling brain rots operation. There are people with massive megaphones.

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Speaker 1: They're not talking about anchoring your primary truths. They're just

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Speaker 1: timeless source of all time of people to blame, to

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Speaker 1: try to explain to you why you are suffering allegedly

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Speaker 1: the Jews. We saw this in the resonation letter from

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Speaker 1: the now former director of the National Counterterrorism Center, Joe Kent,

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Speaker 1: just earlier this week on Tuesday. So Joe Kent writing

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Speaker 1: in this truly disgraceful letter which he had the hutzbuts

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Speaker 1: quite something, he says that the only reason in the

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Speaker 1: United States is in this war with Aram is due

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Speaker 1: influential members of the American media had deployed a misinformation campaign. Actually, Joe,

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Speaker 1: I digress. So, according to to Joe Cants, this campaign

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Speaker 1: quote wholly undermined, mister President, your America First platform and

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Speaker 1: which is just hilarious because Don Trump has been consistent

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Speaker 1: in Tehran. So it's extraordinary stuff from Joe Camp. But

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Speaker 1: So the key point is this is that the resonation

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Speaker 1: is it is up to President Trump, and it's up

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Speaker 1: to Susie Wiles. It is up to other true believers

432
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Speaker 1: arch loyalist Donald Trump to root out, to strip out

433
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Speaker 1: this shadow war rot from within. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that have been let into this administration who

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Speaker 1: do not agree with Donald Trump when it comes to

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Speaker 1: foreign policy and national security above all. I know this because,

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Speaker 1: among other things, I know a lot of people in government,

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Speaker 1: and I know people actually who even work at PPO,

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Speaker 1: which is the personnel office within the White House.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: PPO in the first half year, give or take, of

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Speaker 1: the administration was run by a man of the name

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Speaker 1: of Sergio Gore.

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Speaker 2: Sergio Gore has since been dispatched to India.

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Speaker 1: They essentically sent him as far away as possible because

446
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Speaker 1: he was really quite bad and terrible at his job.

447
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Speaker 1: Sergio Gore is a former staffer for Rand Paul, who

448
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Speaker 1: is a thousand percents on the Joe Kent Tulci Gabbard

449
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Speaker 1: side of all these issues. I know from first hand

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Speaker 1: people telling me. I've heard people's mouth that they were

451
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Speaker 1: personally rejected by Sergio Gore at PPO, who were trying

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Speaker 1: to serve at the State Department, at the Defense Department

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Speaker 1: in some national security defense part role in NSC National

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Speaker 1: Security Council, They were trying to serve the country in

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Speaker 1: a nat set capacity, who were vetoed by Sergio Gore

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Speaker 1: because they were written off as being too interventionist year

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Speaker 1: to Neoconnie oft the Times, they just had some indication

458
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Speaker 1: that they were actually just Jewish for something who was

459
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Speaker 1: actually just straight up anti Semitism. Not all of that

460
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Speaker 1: was part of it. This is very much there, and

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you from exactly how much it is

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Speaker 1: a problem at PPO today. He was a much bigger

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Speaker 1: problem in the first call. It's called three six months

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Speaker 1: of the administration. But it's absolutely been a problem, and

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Speaker 1: it's time for President Trump.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: This is all really kind of boiling to a surface

468
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Speaker 1: in the context of this utterly disgraceful, dripping with conspiracy

469
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Speaker 1: resonation letter from Joe Ken. It is incumbent upon Donald Trump,

470
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Speaker 1: because the buck always stops with the commander in chief

471
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Speaker 1: to really take the ball into run with it and

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Speaker 1: to say that he is going to take personal responsibility,

473
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Speaker 1: working hand to glove with Susie Wiles whoever else at

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Speaker 1: rooting out all of this subversive fifth column shadow war

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Speaker 1: brain rots, sy op filth. And he has a lot

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Speaker 1: of his filth from within the actual broader part of

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Speaker 1: the administration. Exactly who was part of this brain rot

478
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Speaker 1: slab and who is not, well, that's a question that'll

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Speaker 1: just depend on the specific person there. Frankly, I think

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Speaker 1: that Tulci Gabberd has a lot of answering to do.

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Speaker 1: She put out a statement that came out on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: where she basically said, the president's commander in chief, he

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Speaker 1: was elected to make decisions like Warren peace. There he

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Speaker 1: made the assessment that Iran was going to commit a

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Speaker 1: terrorist attack. There is he decided to attack first. Note

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Speaker 1: notably missing in Tulsi Gabbert's statement was any actual substantive

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Speaker 1: assessment of the threat. She completely shirked the question. She

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Speaker 1: totally avoided answering the answer question as to whether Iron

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Speaker 1: is a threat, probably because she doesn't agree with it,

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Speaker 1: because there's a long track record on social media, actually

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Speaker 1: a much a longer track record than even Joe Kent himself.

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Speaker 1: Tulty Garrett has a long track record of saying no

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Speaker 1: war with Iran, no warth raw, no war, no, this Iran's.

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Speaker 2: Not big threat.

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Speaker 1: There she was buddy buddy with Bashar al Asad, the

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Speaker 1: former Iran back strongman in Damascus. There, Tulsa Gabberd longman

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Speaker 1: viewed to sympathetic to one of Iran's closest allies and

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Speaker 1: their saytrap in this Satripy relationship. That would be the

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Speaker 1: Kremlin and ed Vlamer Putin's Russia. So Tulti Gabert frankly

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Speaker 1: has a lot of questions to when she was on

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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. Actually just reluted today to answer some of

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Speaker 1: those questions, among plenty of other questions. I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: necessarily a whole lot of direct grilling on this topic,

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Speaker 1: yet there a lot of rumors starting to fly around

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Speaker 1: the Tulsa Gabbert could be next. I'm not necessarily going

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Speaker 1: to call for her fire or anything there, but for now,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that she really has a lot of

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Speaker 1: questions to answer because Tulti Gabbert was brought in to

509
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Speaker 1: try to symbolize to the broad republic that there are

510
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Speaker 1: now former Democrats are part of the MAGA movement. It's her,

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Speaker 1: and it's RFK Junior over at HHS. The difference is

512
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Speaker 1: that Bobby Kennedy HHS is indeed taking MAGA and running

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Speaker 1: with it in a Maha direction. Okay, Maha really is

514
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Speaker 1: just an extension of MAGA. The difference with Tulti Gabbert

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Speaker 1: at OD and I the Office of Director of National

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Speaker 1: Intelligence is that Tulsi Gabbert's conception of what it means

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Speaker 1: to have national intelligence, encounter terror and national security there

518
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Speaker 1: is a very very different conception than what Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: means by Maga Tulci Gabberd's answer as to what it

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00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: means to have a robust counter terror or pro national

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Speaker 1: security strategy looks a lot closer to Joe Kent or

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson's. So this really really ought to be investigate again.

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Speaker 1: Dan Caldwell, the disgraced former leaker, fired by his longtime

524
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Speaker 1: close friend Pete Hegseth, fired like a dog, as Don

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Speaker 1: Trump might say, Caldwell now working for Tulsa Gabbert back

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Speaker 1: in the government, working at OD. And I also you

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Speaker 1: have Will Ruger, a highly problematic individual part of this

528
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Speaker 1: whole Cooke Brothers orbit there that Dan Caldwell was a

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Speaker 1: part of there, Joe candal at these folks have been

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Speaker 1: in around the Koch Brothers world there. So it's time

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Speaker 1: as president to really take control of what is happening

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Speaker 1: inside your administration and I look forward to that. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of things that are happening inside the Trump administration, A

534
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Speaker 1: somewhat shocking hearing on Capitol Hill earlier today, as well,

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Speaker 1: wasn't just Tulsei Gabbert who was who was testifying as

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Speaker 1: it was also a confirmation day for Mark Wayne Mullen

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Speaker 1: Mark Waye Mullen, who is the new nominee to be

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Speaker 1: the second to of Homeland Security and the part of

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Speaker 1: hole wand security that remains not entirely funded. Democrats continue

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Speaker 1: to shut down large swats of the part of holemand

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Speaker 1: security from very much, including TSA, which is why you

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Speaker 1: have TSA agents that are now critical employees. They are

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Speaker 1: still having to work at airports the most part, but

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Speaker 1: they are not getting paid to do so. And that's

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Speaker 1: why we played a clip for you earlier this week

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Speaker 1: of the Deputy administrator of the TSA saying that's we

547
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Speaker 1: could actually get to a point where whole airports might

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Speaker 1: be shut down, which is just insane, like literally insane

549
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Speaker 1: that a first world country, the greatest country world, like

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Speaker 1: the United says, would ever countenance getting into a situation

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Speaker 1: where airports are shutting down.

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Speaker 2: It's total, total, total lunacy.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Christy Naam, the former DTA secretary being transitioned out

554
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Speaker 1: to this new Shield position, some pro Western Hemisphere, pro

555
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Speaker 1: Latin America junk is basically just their way of getting

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Speaker 1: Christy nam aside.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: Mark Wayne Mullen, the Center from Oklahoma, was on Capitol

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Speaker 1: Hill early essay to testify to I become the next

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Speaker 1: secretary of hoo Masecurity, and things got off to a

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Speaker 1: rather bumpy start. I think would be a very polite

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Speaker 1: way of saying that the Republican chairman of the committee,

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Speaker 1: that's Rand Paul of Kentucky, not a big fan of

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Speaker 1: Mark Wayne Mullen.

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Speaker 2: Things got really really personal. Go ahead and watch this.

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Speaker 6: You told the media that I was a freaking snake

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Speaker 6: and that you completely understood why I had been assaulted.

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Speaker 6: And you might argue you were mad and upset about

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Speaker 6: being confronted by your constituents. The Senator mull and your

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Speaker 6: constituents are justifiably upset with him. By now, most of

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Speaker 6: America knows that the Somali welfare fraud in Minnesota stole

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Speaker 6: over nine billion dollars. But instead of defending your vote

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Speaker 6: you took to continue the vote to continue these refugee

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Speaker 6: welfare programs, you chose to lash out at me. You

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Speaker 6: went on to brag that you'd already told me to

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Speaker 6: my face that you completely understood and approved of the assault.

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Speaker 6: Well that's a lie. You got a chance to You

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Speaker 6: can either continue to lie or you can correct the record.

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Speaker 6: You have never had the courage to look me in

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Speaker 6: the eye and tell me that the assault was justified.

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Speaker 6: So today you'll have your chance. Today, I'll give you

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Speaker 6: that chance to clear the record. Tell it to my

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Speaker 6: face if that's what you believe, tell it to me today.

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Speaker 6: Tell the world why you believe I deserve to be

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Speaker 6: assaulted from behind, have six ribs broken and a damage lung.

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Speaker 6: Tell me to my face why you think I deserved it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rough stuff there from Mark Wayne Mullen, very very

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Speaker 1: rough stuff. Kind of hard to see how he escapes

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Speaker 1: this one. By the way, some black marks in Mark

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Speaker 1: Wayne Mullen's voting record coming out as well and Culture

591
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Speaker 1: recent guests here on The Josh Hammer Show, and Culter

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Speaker 1: tweeting out today that Mark Wayn Mullen actually voted against

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Speaker 1: cutting welfare for non citizens aka for those who are

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Speaker 1: in the country illegally or even if you're a legal alien,

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Speaker 1: you probably should not be getting welfare. And that was

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Speaker 1: vote literally this month, according to and Culture, So that

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Speaker 1: is really dicey stuff. We'll see where this goes with

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Speaker 1: Mark Wayn Mullen. But frankly, if I were Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: I would be expecting to try to name a new

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Speaker 1: DJIS Secretary.

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Speaker 2: Probably sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: We'll see where this goes there, but not exactly the

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Speaker 1: way that Mark Wayne Mullen wanted this hearing to get

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Speaker 1: to get off and running there. I would recommend picking

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Speaker 1: someone who has literally worked in bord security.

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Speaker 2: Tom Holman.

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Speaker 1: Tom Holman, are you listening, Tom? Answer the call? Dude,

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Speaker 1: save your country yet again? You are a patron, Perhaps

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Speaker 1: you will do.

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Speaker 2: So this time.

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Speaker 1: So looks like, as we said before the break, Mark

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Speaker 1: Wayne Mullen is likely going to be out. I think

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Speaker 1: it's possible he is saved. But boy, you don't want

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Speaker 1: the chairman of the committee of your own party coming

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Speaker 1: out swing against you. So in hindsight, this looks like

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Speaker 1: it might have been a less than stellar pick. Someone

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Speaker 1: apparently not really do the research when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the personal animosity that is clearly dripping and fierce and

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Speaker 1: vehement between Rand Paul and Mark Wayne. And again, I

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Speaker 1: think Tom Holman would be an amazing pick to be

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Speaker 1: the next Secretary of formand Security. My theory is that

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Speaker 1: they probably asked him the first time after Christy Noman

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Speaker 1: was announced that she was going to get canned or

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Speaker 1: at least shoved off into this whole shield endeavor there.

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Speaker 1: My guess is that Tom Holman probably said no because

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to deal with bureaucracy that this is

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Speaker 1: that there. But it's probably a time to ask Tom

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Speaker 1: Holman again, and if not, at least someone who has

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Speaker 1: some real meaningful media experience when it comes to actual

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Speaker 1: immigration policy, when it comes to actually enforcing Donald Trump's

631
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Speaker 1: deportation agenda. Frankly, Stephen Miller, who we think very highly

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Speaker 1: of here in the show. Stepan Miller is the deputy

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Speaker 1: chye of Staff of the White House. There, maybe Stephen,

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Speaker 1: Whennen actually wants to be a cabinet official, may he

635
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Speaker 1: prefers to be less in charge of bureaucracy and more

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Speaker 1: just directly helping the president in the executive position their

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Speaker 1: day day. I totally get that, I understand that. But frankly,

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Speaker 1: this country could do a lot worse than Steven Miller

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Speaker 1: as the Secretary of homeand Security, assuming that Tom Holman

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Speaker 1: is not available. Boy, actually that would be a wonderful,

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Speaker 1: wonderful way actually to re charged Republican base going into

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Speaker 1: election year, and indeed going into this November thinking of

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Speaker 1: ways to not recharge the Republican base going into the

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Speaker 1: Mittrom elections in November. John fun has crossed a procedural hurdle,

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Speaker 1: I guess to his tiny credits, So the Save America

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Speaker 1: Act crossed a fifty one to forty eight vote procedural hurdle.

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Speaker 1: This is just a way of trying to get bart

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Speaker 1: majority to advance the bill to actually be debated on

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Speaker 1: the floor. So you actually had Lisa Murkowski, the Rhino

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Speaker 1: from Alaska, who voted against this. Mitch McConnell said he

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Speaker 1: doesn't support the bill, which is crazy, but he said

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Speaker 1: that he will at least vote to begin debate as

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Speaker 1: a courtesy to set a Republican leadership. Though to his

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Speaker 1: longtime deputies, people like John fun and John Cornyn, Okay, dude,

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, we wish you the best of help, but frankly,

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Speaker 1: the US Senate is really not going to miss you

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Speaker 1: very much. Hopefully Kentucky can do a lot better when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Donald Trump MAGA allies than Mitch McConnell.

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Speaker 1: But the problem right now is not mitchric Connell. The

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Speaker 1: problem right now is John Thune, because John Thune is

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Speaker 1: the majority leader of the US Senate, and John Thune,

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Speaker 1: as of this moment, is still declining to actually put

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Speaker 1: Democrats on the defensive there to actually force them to

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Speaker 1: engage in this talking filibuster. As we've explained numerous times

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Speaker 1: on the show, there are two ways to get a

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Speaker 1: bill passed. On the one hands, you can invoke cloture

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Speaker 1: by getting through sixty votes, which is a way of

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Speaker 1: bypassing a silent filibuster and then teeing up a fifty

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Speaker 1: one vote majority or at least a fifty plus one with

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Speaker 1: the Vice President breaking the tie breaking vote. The other

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Speaker 1: way of doing it is to force Democrats or in

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Speaker 1: this just minority, but to force to force the minority,

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Speaker 1: which in the case is Democrats, to wage a constant

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Speaker 1: talking filibuster to make them essentially talk until they cannot

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Speaker 1: talk anymore. And John Thune just refuses to do this.

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Speaker 1: So the most recent quote that he said was he said,

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Speaker 1: quote the talking filibuster has different sets of rules that apply.

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Speaker 1: There are no rules of germaneeness on amendments, well whatever.

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Speaker 1: Those different sets of rules that apply are surely they

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Speaker 1: can apply to this. I've not seen compelling argument as

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Speaker 1: to why whatever alternative rules, whatever all turn in paradigm

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Speaker 1: there exists, and I'm not I've sent a parliamentary and expert.

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Speaker 2: That's what we bring on.

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Speaker 1: Experts like our friend Rachel Bovard's going back some of

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Speaker 1: that for us, as we did recently. But whatever process exists,

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Speaker 1: surely it is or at least can be suitable as

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Speaker 1: a vehicle for the save of americat So I'm simply

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Speaker 1: just not buying it at all. When it comes to

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Speaker 1: John Thune, President Trump definitely not buying it. He is

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Speaker 1: still passing, He's still doubling down here when it comes

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Speaker 1: to saying that the Save America Act is indispensable and

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Speaker 1: this is the bill that will save Republicans the midterms

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Speaker 1: there he will not consider any other legislation until this

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Speaker 1: actually happens.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: So John Thune, dude, find a way to get this done.

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Speaker 1: I'm sick of the excuses. Really, I am sick of

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Speaker 1: the excuses. And I hate to say that I was right,

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Speaker 1: but as soon as Republicans retook over the Senate and

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Speaker 1: they named John Thun as the new majority leader, my

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Speaker 1: very first thought was this is ominous, This is not good,

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Speaker 1: and this is not good because John Thune is mister

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Speaker 1: establishment John fun along with John Cornyn who's now conveniently

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Speaker 1: changing his tune on the Filbuster because of his primary

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Speaker 1: challenge down Texas from Ken Paxton. But John Thun has

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Speaker 1: been very much part of the Republican establishment for way, way,

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Speaker 1: way too long. He has this crammed in way of thinking.

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Speaker 1: He is totally willing to think outside the box. Ironically,

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Speaker 1: thinking outside the box here actually just means to go

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Speaker 1: back and follow Senate prolementarian rules as they've been established

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Speaker 1: for a very very long time, because the Talking Philbuster

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Speaker 1: has been part of those rules literally since the beginning.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully, hopefully John Fune gets his head out of

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Speaker 1: his behinds and gets it.

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Speaker 2: Bill pass A Sap the big.

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Speaker 1: Foreign policy issue that we're really starting to track a

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Speaker 1: little more closely here, in addition to the situation over

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Speaker 1: in Iran, and yesterday we talked to Sebastian Laia, the

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Speaker 1: son of the Wrong Fu detained Jimmy laeover in Hong Kong.

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Speaker 1: China's always much on our minds here on the show.

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Speaker 1: But the China related issue you might say that we're

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Speaker 1: really starting to track more aggressively. Here is the issue

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Speaker 1: of Cuba. Things are really starting to he up in Cuba.

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Speaker 1: So this is a country have roughly eleven million people,

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Speaker 1: has been ruled by this horrific communist dictatorship now for

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Speaker 1: six and a half, almost seven decades. Hard to believe

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Speaker 1: it'll be seven decades in just a few years. The

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Speaker 1: regime came to power in nineteen fifty eight, nine fifty nine,

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Speaker 1: right around then, and there have now been a series

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Speaker 1: of rolling blackouts over the past year and a half.

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Speaker 1: The most recent sprawling blackout commenced this past Sunday. Much

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Speaker 1: of the islands woke up Monday morning to no power

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Speaker 1: and has been without power for much of this week.

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Speaker 1: Is a country that is profoundly, deeply impoverished. I really

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Speaker 1: couldn't believe when I saw it, Folks, when I actually

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Speaker 1: went to I went to Havana. You're in this city

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Speaker 1: that could be paradise.

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Speaker 2: The water is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is where Ernest Hemiway wrote old Man

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Speaker 1: in the sea. The water is beautiful when the seagulls

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Speaker 1: are chirping. And this is like salsa and music and

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Speaker 1: great food and these classic cars. There's so much potential,

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Speaker 1: and yet it looks like a bomb went off. There's

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Speaker 1: dilapidated buildings, there's a rubble everywhere, there's stray dogs and

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Speaker 1: all sorts of other stray animals rolling the streets. There's immense,

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Speaker 1: immense poverty. You see people looking skeletons that they've been

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Speaker 1: malfed and malinourished. It's really just profoundly depressing. And the

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Speaker 1: most interesting development that's starting to happen in Cuba, especially

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Speaker 1: since his latest bout of these now recurring rolling blackouts,

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Speaker 1: is that the people are starting to take to the

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Speaker 1: local Communist Party offices. They're starting to run up to

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Speaker 1: and to try to siege or to try a lay

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Speaker 1: siege to the local Communist Party offices, mostly happening outside Havana,

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Speaker 1: but perhaps it's only a matter of time until actually

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Speaker 1: goes to Havana. And this is all happening in the

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Speaker 1: broader context that the President of Cuba, man the name

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Speaker 1: of Miguel Diaz Canal, who American intelligence estimates to be

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Speaker 1: a Communist hardliner, very much a true Marxist Leninist in

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Speaker 1: the castro Vein so, Miguel Diaz Canal has confirmed that

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Speaker 1: he and Roul Castro, the brother of the leading revolutionary

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Speaker 1: from the fifties, Fidel Castro, they are in talks with

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Speaker 1: the United States, which likely means Marco Rubio's team and

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Speaker 1: his deputies. Because Rubio is of Cuban descent, he was

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Speaker 1: from Miami, Florida, he is very strong ties to Cuba

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Speaker 1: and the Cuban diaspora really wants nothing more than for

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Speaker 1: Castro to be overthrown there. So Miguel Diaz Canal and

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Speaker 1: Robot Castro have confirmed they are in talks with the

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Speaker 1: United States. What those talks is out there are we

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Speaker 1: don't really know exactly yet. My understanding from what I

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Speaker 1: can glean is not the United States envisions something along

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Speaker 1: the lines of the Venezuela model, where you don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: have regime overthrow, you don't necessarily have a wholesale replacement

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Speaker 1: of the socialist leadership. Rather you essentially have let's call

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Speaker 1: it sinos socialists in name only, or kinos or chinos

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Speaker 1: communists and name only ci n O pronounce whatever you

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Speaker 1: would like, I suppose, and they essentially mean here as

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Speaker 1: someone who is of a titsue or fashion, who was

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Speaker 1: technically technically allegedly ostensibly part of the Communist Party of Cuba,

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Speaker 1: but a reality is open to some sort of more

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Speaker 1: free market reforms, is trying to attract private capital. By

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Speaker 1: the way, the Disaction has actually been some news on

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Speaker 1: this very front. Actually recently Cuba has apparently told members

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Speaker 1: of the Cuban di ask right here in Florida and

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Speaker 1: throughout the United States that they are actually welcome, Indeed,

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Speaker 1: they are encouraged to move back to Floria and actually

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Speaker 1: start to invest from the capital there. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's what they're envisioning. They in this case being the

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Speaker 1: United States, They're envisioning something along those lines. Think about

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Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party, the Chinese Communist Party after Mao

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Speaker 1: Ze Dunks during the leadership of Dang Xiaoping in the

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Speaker 1: late nineteen seventies into the nineteen eighties, it was still

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Speaker 1: the Communist Party, but they were open to state capitalism

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Speaker 1: and some broader forms of free market resembling measures. That's

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Speaker 1: probably kind of sort of what Marco Rubio has in

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Speaker 1: mind here. If I had to guess, it's all speculation,

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Speaker 1: it's all speculation. Look, I know a lot of Cubans

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Speaker 1: who will not be happy until the regime is actually

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Speaker 1: torn down and fully burned to the ground. Given the

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Speaker 1: light level of anger that exists in the Cuban diask

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Speaker 1: about that country. So two, that's the same thing probably

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Speaker 1: for the Iranic diaspora in Los Angeles elsewhere. When it

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Speaker 1: comes to Iran, you also have to live in reality,

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Speaker 1: and the ideal solution is not always what's actually gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: The way to connect the dots there and to have

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Speaker 1: the best possible scenario in geopolitics given the constraints of

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Speaker 1: the situation is what statesmen are called for, and we

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Speaker 1: are very fortunate to have a great statesman at this time.

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Speaker 2: His name is Donald J. Trump. Folks, have a great

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Speaker 2: rest of evening. Josh Hammer sunning Off. You'll be right

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow.