1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Christian Natural Health with naturopathic doctor Lauren Deville. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: Christian Natural Health is the podcast on how to get 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: and stay healthy God's Way. You'll hear topics on nutrition, exercise, sleep, 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: avoiding toxicity, meditating on scripture, what supplements to take, stress management, 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: defeating anxiety and worry, how to reconcile Eastern medicine, approaches 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: with Christianity, and a whole lot more. Now here's your host, 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: doctor Lauren. 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Christian Natural Health today. 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm very pleased to have Daniel Harmon with us. Daniel 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: is the creator and showrunner of Tuttle Twins TV show, 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: an award winning cartoon that teaches kids about principles of 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: freedom and economics. Title Twins is based on the book 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: series that has sold over five million copies. In twenty twenty, 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: Tuttle Twins set a record as the number one crowdfunded 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: kids show in the world. Daniel is a creative entrepreneur 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: and co founded Harmon Brothers, a renowned video advertising agency 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: that has driven billions of views and over seven hundred 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: million in sales. Daniels also a co founder of vid 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: Angel and Angel Studios. 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: Welcome Daniel, thanks so much for joining us, Thanks for 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: having me, Yeah for sure. 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: So first before we launch into title twins specifically, tell 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: us a little bit of the background of co founding 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Angel Studios. When was this, What was the background, you know, 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: just tell us kind of the story there. 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it actually started with vid Angel. So it was 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: man that was that was a long time ago. But 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 4: we my brothers and I, we all love movies in 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 4: our family and we were all in a stage where 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: we were raising young kids, and so much of what 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: was happening with media online it was going to streaming, 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: and so we wanted to create There were so many 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: great stories coming out of Hollywood that we wanted to 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: share with the kids, but they're loaded with all sorts 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 4: of content issues, language, nunity, those types of things, and 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: we wanted to be able to watch them without that stuff. 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: And then so that's kind of what vi Angel came 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: out of originally, and then from there it was, uh, 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 4: it was actually vid Angel. I guess it's it's it's 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: a more complicated history than that, but essentially bid Angel 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: ended up getting sued by Disney going to work ye uh, 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: that Angel ended up getting getting sued by Disney and 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: they don't like it when you touch their content in 44 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 4: any way. It's essentially that Angel was an advanced remote 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 4: that allowed parents to skip and mute, right, That's what 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 4: it was. But they don't they don't like, they don't 47 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 4: like the endies you're having that. Yeah, quote unquote censorship, right, 48 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: But it's not censorship, right, It's just it's parent patrols, 49 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: That's really all it is. And they go into this 50 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 4: long legal battle that we did not have the money 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 4: to fight, and so we went and raised money from 52 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 4: the crowd to fight the legal battle all the way 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: to the Supreme Court. So it was literally over the 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: course of I think two weeks might have been last 55 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: I can't remember, but raised millions of dollars to be 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: able to go to be able to go fight the 57 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 4: what we we fought what we thought was it in 58 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: alignment with the law, all the way to the Supreme Court. 59 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: And in part of that process, from the money that 60 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: that was put towards vid Angel, a portion of it 61 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: was invested into content as well. So we went and 62 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: bought the legal side. So Drive our comedy. You're you're 63 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: familiar with Drive our Comedy probably, but it's got well 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: it's got billions of views. It's the biggest stand up 65 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: comedy platform in the world. And comedians would come on 66 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: and they would perform, and they would they would We 67 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: would communicate with them. And when I say we, I 68 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: mean my brothers are also co founders. They they would 69 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: communicate with the comedians, this is what the audience filters 70 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: out and this is what they don't. And then the 71 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 4: comedians would voluntarily change their stand up set to cater 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: to the audience because they knew, oh, well, they're going 73 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: to skip the F bomb, they're going to skip the 74 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: sexual innuendo and all these things. I'll just do this 75 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: clean portion of my set. And it was. It was 76 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 4: incredible and it and it became this thing. It was 77 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: funny for the whole family. Well, fast forward later, the 78 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: lawsuit continues to be bought and all those kinds of things, 79 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 4: and along comes my brothers get connected with Dallas Jenkins, 80 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: who is the director of The Chosen, and they they 81 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: watched his short film The Shepherd, and they're just like, Okay, 82 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: this is what we created this thing for, is this 83 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 4: type of content. And so we go out and we 84 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 4: use The Shepherd basically as an advertisement to raise money 85 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 4: for the first season of The Chosen, right' that's what 86 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: that's what we use it for. And you know, my 87 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: brother said, oh, okay, let's crowdfund this thing. And Dallas 88 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: was like, Okay, that's kind of stupid that we'll never 89 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: get Maybe we'll make a few thousand dollars, because everything 90 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 4: he had seen from crowdfunding was like the Indiegogo campaigns 91 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: and the Kickstarter stuff. But they set the record for 92 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: the larger crowdfunded TV show in the history of the world. Right. 93 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: It was something along the lines of like ten million 94 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: dollars and might have been been more, might have been 95 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: eleven million. But what was so interesting was when that 96 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: idea for crowdfunding for media content came from when we 97 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: did the crowdfunding to raise money to fight the legal 98 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 4: battle for bit Angel. So I immediately sent an email 99 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 4: to my brothers. I was like, Hey, if we can 100 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 4: raise this money to fight illegal battle, I'm like, couldn't 101 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: we do this to like make of a or something. 102 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 4: And they're like, oh, yeah, we totally could. And that's 103 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: kind of where you know, what went into Drive Bar 104 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: and what went into The Chosen and later for my 105 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: own show for Tuttle Twins. Yeah, we did the same 106 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,559 Speaker 4: thing again. We crowdfunded and we raised the most amount 107 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 4: of money ever for a kid's TV show, set a 108 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: set of world record for that. We later broke it 109 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 4: a little bit later with the Wing Feather Saga. But anyway, 110 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: which is also on Angel Studios. But yeah, so long, 111 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 4: long story short bid. Angel is the filtering company, right, Yeah, 112 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 4: Then the original content was being developed at the same time, 113 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: and eventually it came to a point where it was like, Okay, 114 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 4: these two companies, they it might be troublesome for them 115 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: to coexist. So it wasn't even two companies, it was 116 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 4: one company at the time. Yeah, but it's like, if 117 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: the filtering really takes off, that could with all this 118 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 4: legal stuff, it could endanger all this original content that's 119 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 4: being bill it is, and if the original content really 120 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: takes off, that could maybe even endanger the filtering site. 121 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: And so ultimately the two companies were broken apart. Okay, 122 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: but Angels now a completely separate company. We have no 123 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: part in that one at all. That We're still run 124 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: by great people, but it is now a completely separate company, right, Okay, 125 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: And then the original content side of things became Angel, right, yeah, 126 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: and then and that's where that's where my show lives. 127 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: And gosh, I don't even remember what question you asked 128 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: Lauren to get me onto the hat, but that's kind 129 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: of the backstory. 130 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: See to me, this whole story is an illustration of 131 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: Romans eight twenty eight, the idea that you know, God 132 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: takes all things, all these awful things, like this incredible 133 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: legal struggle, and he brings something so beautiful out of it. 134 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: The fact that you had not just like the amount 135 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: of money that you earned then, but like you had 136 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: this excess that ended up getting funneled, but you also 137 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: learned a process and now suddenly you realize that there's 138 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: this incredible hunger among people all over the place that 139 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: want this kind of content and they had nowhere to go. 140 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: So that's it's just so great. So tell me a 141 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: little bit about like the what you've learned. I mean, 142 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: obviously you've learned it based on how much money that 143 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: you've you've you've brought in for the content, But what 144 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: kind of demand is out there? 145 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: Is there? Is it just a niche? 146 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: Is there a huge swath of different demographics that are 147 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: interested in clean content? What what is that demand versus 148 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: what Hollywood is currently producing. I'm not sure how to 149 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: phrase that question, but. 150 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 4: No, yeah, the demand is high. In fact, even back 151 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: when we were doing the filtering stuff in the early 152 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 4: days of the Angel, we found that it was actually 153 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 4: it was almost half of the United States that wanted 154 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: those kind of partial controls. So they wanted that cond 155 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: of control over their content. And then what Angel is 156 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 4: really going after is the value is based audience. Now 157 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: at a lot of them are like regular church going 158 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: type people, right, but really it's people that want to 159 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: see good morals, good ethics, good values in their content 160 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: rather than it just being you know, a celebration of 161 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 4: like anti heroes and just entertainment for entertainments sake. They 162 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 4: want to be uplifting and yeah, inspired, I mean, for 163 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 4: lack of a better term, a little bit of what 164 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: Disney was historically, right, right, yes, And so that is 165 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 4: the Angel mission is to tell stories that amplify light. 166 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: And it actually is most of the country that wants 167 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: that kind of content. Now, they might say to themselves, oh, 168 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: that's a Christian thing or that's for religious people, and 169 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: kind of write some of the stuff off, but so 170 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 4: many of the so many of the TV shows and 171 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: the feature films that come through Angel don't really fit 172 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: neatly into those sort of categories of like, oh, this 173 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: is Christian content or this is this is for you know, 174 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: people that like go to church. It's very much just 175 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 4: a good story. I don't know if you've seen the 176 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 4: movie Sketch, but that's a really good example. But well, 177 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: I use drybar comedy as an example, the comedians that 178 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 4: are just delivering their content in a way that it's 179 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: more family family, yeah, funny for everyone, right, And this 180 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: is a similar type of thing where with the movie Sketch, 181 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: it's really a movie all about grief. It's about this 182 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: girl that is drawing these pictures after her mom has passed, 183 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 4: these like really kind of nasty little pictures in her 184 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: notebook and they end up coming to life and like 185 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: terrorizing this town. And is this kind of like fantasy 186 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: element to it, But really it's it's about just processing 187 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: through through grief and it's really uplifting at the end, 188 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: even though it has kind of these like horror horror 189 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: element but really in a more family friendly way. And anyway, 190 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: it's just a really good example of the kind of 191 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,599 Speaker 4: content that you can make that doesn't have to necessarily 192 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,479 Speaker 4: be oh, this is Christian. 193 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly. So just curious, and I promise I 194 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: will get back to the title twins thing, but that 195 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: I'm curious to know why, in your opinion, this data 196 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: is out there, the demand is there, Why is it that. 197 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: The mainstream isn't catering to that? 198 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: Because you would think that it's about it's about the money, 199 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Like this is a business. Why are they not following 200 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: what the people are demanding and what they've already proven 201 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: that they'll pay for. 202 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: What is your theory about that? 203 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: I have a couple. One is that the Hollywood operates 204 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: in a bubble. And what I mean by that is 205 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 4: they have their kind of their own culture, yeah, and 206 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: they're surrounded by many more of their type, right, and 207 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: so that I think what they see surrounding them in 208 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: their lives isn't necessarily what Middle America, for example, sees 209 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: in their own lives. And so they I think have 210 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 4: created content a that like is kind of a reflection 211 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: of what they're seeing in their lives. And then b 212 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: I also think they they've there's a lot of trying 213 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: to please their peers, meaning they're trying to impress their 214 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 4: friends they're trying to win awards and those kinds of things. 215 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: So many of the financial incentives have actually been stripped 216 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: away because of the contracts that the studio systems did 217 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: with other creators. So many of the actors, directors, and 218 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: producers had contracts that allowed for them to get paid 219 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: on the back end royalties and different those different kinds 220 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: of things. When the films would do well well, what 221 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 4: happened is so much of the accounting in Hollywood makes 222 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 4: it so the film never quote unquote does well or 223 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: it never becomes profitable, interesting and so and so, so 224 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 4: much of the back end, it's so rare for the 225 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: actors and the directors and stuff to truly get a 226 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: back end. It's it's it's probably only the very tippity 227 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 4: top ten percent of movies ever. And I mean, I'm 228 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: just pulling a number out of the air, but it's 229 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 4: a very small minority of the movies that ever end 230 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 4: up paying the actors on the back end and the 231 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: creators on the back end, because there's always these clever 232 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: accounting things to be like, now we haven't turned a 233 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: profit yet, those kinds of things. And so I think 234 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 4: because the financial incentives have not landed or been like 235 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,359 Speaker 4: there's been a little bit of over promise and underdeliver 236 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: on the back end of the financial side. I think 237 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: they're incentivized to get their money upfront, and then in 238 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: that case, I think you're even more incentivized to please 239 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: your peers than you are the customer that you're ultimately 240 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 4: trying to serve. But I do think the award does 241 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: play into that where they get a little bit a 242 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: little bit where the award shows for years haven't really 243 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 4: been a reflection of what's happening in the box office. Right. 244 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 4: A lot of these movies will be things that people 245 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: have never even heard of, and then they're winning like 246 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: Best Picture and Best Director and that kind of stuff. 247 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: That used to be the case in Hollywood, right. It 248 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: used to be that you was really big, well known movies, 249 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: very popular movies that we're winning those awards, And now 250 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: it seems like there's a lot more of their kind 251 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 4: of speaking themselves rather than speaking to the majority of 252 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: who their customer is. 253 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. 254 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: So I mean it seems like essentially it's a reflection 255 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: of what's happening in the microcosm with everybody else. We're 256 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: all in our little silos in social media right where 257 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: we can yes, our own idea is reflected back, and 258 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: it sounds like Hollywood is another example of that, where 259 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: I think, So, I. 260 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: Think that's an element for sure. 261 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, fascinating. So okay, give us the elevator pitch 262 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: for the top twins. What inspired who wrote the series? 263 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 4: First? Of all? 264 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: Was that also? You guys? 265 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: No? 266 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: So, Connor Boyac and Elijah Stanfield are the author and 267 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: the illustrator of the original book series. I've been friends 268 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 4: with Connor for a long time. A bought the first 269 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: book when it came out, loved it, wanted it as 270 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: a resource to teach my own kids. I'm a father 271 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: of seven and we've also homeschooled and those kinds of things. 272 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: And so with Connor, he was actually looking for a 273 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: resource to teach his own kids. He's got two kids 274 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: of his own. He went on Amazon to find a 275 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: resource to find what books would teach kids about principles 276 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: of freedom and economics, and he just came up really shorthanded, 277 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: and he's like, well, I guess maybe I'll just write 278 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: the book myself. And so he took Frederick Bastiel's The 279 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 4: Law and wrote a book called The Law, and it 280 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: ended up resonating so well with parents like myself and 281 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: others and selling so well that he was like, well, 282 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 4: maybe turned this into a series. It was never even 283 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: like an intention of his so like make this whole series. 284 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: But he starts to turn into a series and write 285 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: books on things like the Golden Rule, entrepreneurship, on inflation, 286 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: all these different kind of economic and freedom based topics 287 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: and rights to life, liberty, property, all those things, and 288 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: ultimately the series just continues to take off and just 289 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: sell more and more. And you know, my family bought 290 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: all the books and we really, we really enjoyed having 291 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: them as a homeschool resource. And then it actually got 292 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: to a point. So you mentioned that I'm co founder 293 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 4: not only of but Angel Angel Studios, but Harmon Brothers, 294 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: which is an advertising marketing agency. We actually brought on 295 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: Tuttle Twins the book the books as a client and 296 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: started doing campaigns with them to really help them grow 297 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: the books to where they were starting to sell tens 298 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: of thousands of copies, and Connor and Elias started kicking 299 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 4: around the idea of turning it into a TV series, 300 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 4: and it was one of my business partners at Harmon Brothers, Benton, 301 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: who was the CEO, he approached me and said, I 302 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: think we should be the ones to turn into the 303 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 4: TVC's TV series for them, and I was like, I 304 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 4: don't want to do that. So I was over creative 305 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 4: at Harmon Brothers and I had learned. I had learned 306 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 4: storytelling through telling the stories for clients, right, character development, 307 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: how to educate people well, how to entertain all those 308 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: things I was learning through the campaigns that we were 309 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 4: doing with advertising, and I knew that I ultimately wanted 310 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 4: to do a movie of some kind. But I was like, 311 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: a do I want to do a TV show? Be 312 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: do I want to do animated? And then see like 313 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 4: this political thing that that's the first thing I want 314 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 4: to go out the door with no. But the then 315 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: ultimately I was like, wait a minute, I really want 316 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: this to exist from my kids. I would have really 317 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: loved to have this as a kid. If I don't 318 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: do this, who is going to do it? And when 319 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: it was like especially the way I had it in 320 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: my mind, and I was like, oh, I don't think 321 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 4: this gets done unless I do it. And I was like, Okay, 322 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: I have to do it. That's ultimately what it came down. 323 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: So we approached Connor, sat down with him and kind 324 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 4: of spelled out a vision for how Tuttle Twins could 325 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: be kind of a Marvel type brand. Marvel has their 326 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: cinematic universe, they have their comic books, they have their 327 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 4: TV shows and cartoons, they have their toys, and they 328 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 4: all have little bits of different flavor, right, but you 329 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 4: kind of know generally overall what Marvel's getting at, and 330 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 4: a little the same thing with Tuttle Twins. The brand 331 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: would become this, you know, educational brand for kids, for 332 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 4: freedom and economics. The TV show would have a little 333 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 4: bit of a different flavor than the books, and we 334 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 4: spelled that out and he's like, okay, I can kind 335 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 4: of get behind that. And so Connor actually is an 336 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 4: execut producer on the show, so he sits down at 337 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: the beginning of every episode with us and we we 338 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 4: nail down what we're going to teach in the episode, 339 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 4: and he helps us make sure that message is true 340 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 4: to the original book series and shoot the principles that 341 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 4: the brand stands for. Elijah Stanfield also the illustrator, He 342 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: does the same. He's also an executive producer on the show, 343 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 4: so there. They're very integral to the education of the show. 344 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 4: And then me and my team we go off and 345 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: we try to make it as fun and entertain as possible, 346 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 4: not just for kids, but for adults as well. 347 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm just curious as you were talking about 348 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: all of this, did he have a publisher that had 349 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: to sign off on all of this or was he 350 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: self published? 351 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: How did this happen? 352 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was self published. What he was self published 353 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 4: to begin with. And I'm not sure if he has 354 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 4: a publisher, but I know I don't. I don't think so. 355 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: I don't think he goes through an official publisher. I 356 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: think it's still all he kind of figured out the 357 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 4: mechanics of just going direct to to places that can 358 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: you know, publish the books. Yeah, that meaning actually manufacture 359 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: the books to get him out there, but that no 360 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: official like publisher that was going to do his marketing. 361 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 4: He's done all that, He's built all that s up internally. 362 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: He's Connor. Connor's amazing. He's very much an entrepreneur, a 363 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: problem solver, and a visionary and he was able to 364 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 4: really kind of create this whole whole business that's been 365 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 4: pretty fantastic. 366 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he ended up hiring you guys and 367 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: you took it from there, but that I mean not having. 368 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: Those so he didn't hire us. But we've partnered together. Yeah, 369 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: title Tuttle Twins TV show is a separate business from 370 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 4: the book company. And we just partnered together and and 371 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 4: and we entered a licensing agreement for. 372 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: The creative inspiration. Yeah, yeah, very cool. 373 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: So, I mean this is the goal here is to 374 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: teach economic principles and what else, Like, what are what 375 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: are some of the main foundational principles that are the 376 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 2: goal that to reach kids with? 377 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so so much of it is are the foundational 378 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: principles of this country right, so rights to individual individual rights, life, liberty, 379 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 4: and property, things like the Golden rule. Uh, really kind 380 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: of basic moral values that are part of it of 381 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: like you know, don't don't do things to your neighbor 382 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 4: that you wouldn't want to have them do to you. 383 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: Or but then getting into the mechanics of economics like 384 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 4: things like free trade, like supply and demand where inflation 385 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: comes from. Even even things like civil disobedience and critical thinking, 386 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: free speech, freedom of religion, all of those things we 387 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 4: we get into with the show. So anything to do 388 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: with freedom and economics. We touched on that stuff, and 389 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: so the show has a has The main characters are 390 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 4: our Grandma with the time traveling wheelchair that takes your 391 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: kids back in time to learn lessons of liberty from 392 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: from you know, a major figures of history like Benjamin 393 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: Franklin and George Washington, Harriet Tubman, Martin Luther King Junior, 394 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: on and on and they So it's kind of got 395 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 4: these vibes of the Magic school Bus and a little 396 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: bit of shows like Phineas and Ferb with things like 397 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 4: gravity falls and even the Simpsons mix in, but more family. 398 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: Friendly, so very cool. 399 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of those principles are things that kids 400 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: would probably inherently find boring if they were presented in 401 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: textbook book format. But this way, I'm imagining kids would 402 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: get really excited about those principles and maybe learn to 403 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: delve into them a little bit more themselves. 404 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 4: Is there, Oh, one hundred percent. I think that's the 405 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: case that even adults find this stuff boring unless you 406 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 4: make and change right right. So yeah, one of the 407 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 4: things that we recognize is a these principles are not 408 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 4: being taught in the public school system very much anymore. 409 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: They're also not being taught in culture, and so we 410 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 4: just were creating a resource to be able to give 411 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: to parents for them to pass their values on down 412 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 4: to their kids. And we knew that the show at 413 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: least the vision I've always had for the show is 414 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 4: that had to be entertaining enough and interesting enough that 415 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: kids would choose it as an entertainment option over things 416 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: like Netflix and Disney Plus and TikTok and and so on. 417 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 4: That we needed to work as great characters and great 418 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 4: story and then they're getting a lesson in there as well. 419 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: So one example I always bring up is the original 420 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 4: Spider Man with Toby McGuire. With great power comes great response, 421 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 4: reponsibility right. Almost everybody can finish that sentence for me, 422 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: A because it resonates as truth when you say it right, 423 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: and be because there's so much great storytelling and character 424 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 4: around it that you remember it. And that's a little 425 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: bit of what we try to do with the show. 426 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 4: When we teach about entrepreneurship, we have aligned that as 427 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: the entrepreneur makes problems fewer, so there is a problem solver, right. 428 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: And then when we teach when we teach about inflation, 429 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 4: inflation hurts a nation. So we have these different sort 430 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: of like kind of cat phrases that will repeat in 431 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: the episodes to try to help things stick. And on 432 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 4: civil disobedience, sometimes it's okay to civilly disobeys what we'll say. 433 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: Where we use help kids with the critical thinking, and 434 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 4: we've always been the object of it has always been 435 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: a co viewing experience between the kids and the parents. 436 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 3: Meaning into a dialogue. 437 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, absolutely, And it's been so ground to find 438 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: to see that eighty percent of our episodes is over 439 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: eighty percent are being watched by the parents as well. 440 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: Now is it getting watched the second, third, and fourth time, 441 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: Probably not, but they're sitting down with the kids at 442 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 4: least and watching it once. And that's so encouraging because 443 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 4: we really want those dinner table discussions happening. We want 444 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 4: the critical thinking. We don't just want parents parking the 445 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 4: kids in front of the show and just saying, oh, 446 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 4: just just watched it and turning like their brain off. No, 447 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 4: we want we want them engaged with it, and so 448 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 4: we it's about half the jokes to the show go 449 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 4: right off the heads of the six to eight year 450 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 4: olds but are landing squarely in the lap of the 451 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 4: thirty five or forty five year olds, right, the parents. 452 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 4: I mean they're written for kids, like of the nineties 453 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 4: and those types of things. So it's it's it's been 454 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: a really fun process because we have to have the 455 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 4: show has to work first and foremost, Like for me, 456 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 4: I don't just say to myself what will be funny 457 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 4: to my kids? I said what's funny to me? And 458 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: and that's kind of a starting point and ends up 459 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: being funny for a lot of other parents and a 460 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 4: lot of other kids. 461 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's terrific. 462 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: So I just before we talked, I was watching the 463 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: trailer or the trailer and also the first episode. So 464 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: people can watch the first episode for free, right, Oh yeah. 465 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 4: In fact, if you download the Angel app, I believe 466 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 4: you can watch the first three seasons for free. Goodness 467 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 4: only there there. So we're now in our fourth season. 468 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: We're now releasing our fourth season. Now you need to 469 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: be an Angel Guild member in order to watch the 470 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: fourth season the latest content. That's that's a pain member 471 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 4: who actually gets to see the content before it ever 472 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 4: goes public, meaning not just see the episodes when they're 473 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 4: released first, but you get to see it before we 474 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 4: even finish it because the Angel Guild is actually our gatekeeper. 475 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: They're the ones that decide whether or not the episodes 476 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 4: are worth putting on the platform. Oh wow, my brothers 477 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 4: who are executives over at Angel, they can't even green 478 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: light any TV show or any feature film without approval 479 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 4: from the Angel Guild. The Angel Guilt has to pass 480 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 4: it first and say yes, this is a story that 481 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 4: amplifies like and yes, we would be very disappointed if 482 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 4: this never you know, was made public. 483 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 3: The light of day. 484 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so every single one of our episodes of 485 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 4: Total Twins first test to go through the Angel Guilt 486 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 4: before it can ever be published. And that's but yeah, 487 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 4: they download the Angel app on the App Store or 488 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 4: Google Play, they can watch the first three seasons. I'm 489 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: pretty sure it's it's for free and from there, if 490 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: you get hooked, then you can pay to watch for So. 491 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: I love that the checks and balances you guys have 492 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: going on there where they've got this totally separate group 493 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: that is this going to fly? 494 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 4: It's only it's over one point five million members now 495 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: with the Angel Guild, and it's turning the Hollywood system 496 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 4: on its head, meaning the Hollywood system is a handful 497 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 4: of executives are the ones that make the choices on 498 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 4: whether or not, you know, we're going to spend one 499 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 4: hundred million dollars and make this film, or we're going 500 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 4: to spen and you know, fifty million dollars to produce 501 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 4: this TV series whatever it is. Yeah, that's what's happening. 502 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 4: And instead it's it's our audience. Our audience gets to 503 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 4: decide whether or not something is going to be an Angel, 504 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 4: Angel film or TV show. That's what it is. We're 505 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: accountable to the end customer. 506 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic. 507 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 2: And so just because I have you here in your 508 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: part of Angel Studios, I have to ask you a 509 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: little bit about the Sound of Freedom, like that was 510 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: such a huge, tremendous film, Like the response to that. 511 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: Did anybody anticipate that it was going to be that big? 512 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 4: No? No, not in our wildless dreams, right, So No, 513 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 4: I think I think we understood when watching the film. 514 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 4: I think we knew it had the potential to be successful. 515 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: I don't think any of us would have ever believed 516 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: that it was going to be a grand slam like 517 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: it was, especially at the box office and just the 518 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: word of mouth that was driven by it. It was 519 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: so groundbreaking in the way it approached a subject that 520 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 4: a lot of people just don't talk about. Ye and yeah, 521 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: and then obviously Alexandro Monteverte, the director, he's just a 522 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 4: very skilled he's a very very skilled creative, just a 523 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 4: great storyteller, and so he did a really good job 524 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: of really bringing the emotion to that and paying that 525 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 4: story off very well. And so yeah, none of us 526 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 4: do it was gonna be dout. 527 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think so much of it is just 528 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: that you are playing to what your audience wants. And 529 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: there's crowdfunding that's part of it. And then there's the 530 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: gatekeepers that are the audience. So you've got you've got 531 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: them in the loop every. 532 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: Step of the way. That's awesome. What have I not 533 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: asked you that you want to make sure you leave 534 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: with our audience? 535 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: Oh, that is a great question. Probably my biggest inspiration 536 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 4: I think for doing tele Twins is I would love 537 00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 4: it if Tuttle Twins inspired other kids other parents going 538 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 4: forward to go and create their own tough Twins that 539 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 4: I don't mean maybe necessarily another TV show, it could 540 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: be that, But what can they do to be like, 541 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 4: you know what this doesn't exist in the world, and 542 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 4: it needs to exist, and I want it for myself 543 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 4: or I want it for my family, and I'm going 544 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: to go out there and create it. That would be 545 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: the ultimate thing. If like it, it inspires the next 546 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: generation of entrepreneurs and problem solvers and creatives and storytellers. 547 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 4: That I mean, that would be a much That would 548 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 4: be the best impact I think that that the show 549 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 4: could have. Like, yes, it's it's touching the lives of 550 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: millions with the with the teaching and stuff, but man, 551 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: if it could inspire more people to dive in there, 552 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 4: throw their hat in the ring and go and create 553 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: something great, I love that. 554 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: Let's change the culture absolutely right. So where can people 555 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: go to learn more about you and about Tuttle Twins. 556 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: Go to angel dot com slash tuttle Twins t U 557 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 4: t t l E Twins and that you'll that'll take 558 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: you right to the spot. Or you can just look 559 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 4: the Angel app up on the app store, download for 560 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: free and start watching content. 561 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: Fantastic, awesome. 562 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: Well I will link to that in the show notes. 563 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: And thank you so much for your time, Daniel. 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