1 00:00:20,196 --> 00:00:23,236 Speaker 1: Hi friend, I'm so glad you're here today. Let's learn 2 00:00:23,276 --> 00:00:26,916 Speaker 1: how to raise our kids to love God, respect authority, 3 00:00:27,196 --> 00:00:31,036 Speaker 1: and do what's right. Let's scroll less and live more. 4 00:00:31,356 --> 00:00:34,436 Speaker 1: I'm Arlene Pelicane and this is the Happy Home. 5 00:00:37,756 --> 00:00:38,996 Speaker 2: Well Friends. What an honor. 6 00:00:39,116 --> 00:00:41,236 Speaker 1: Not often do I get to have a president of 7 00:00:41,396 --> 00:00:44,876 Speaker 1: a seminary on the podcast, which is very fun. Doctor 8 00:00:44,915 --> 00:00:49,396 Speaker 1: Mark Yarborough is here from Dallas Theological Seminary. He is 9 00:00:49,436 --> 00:00:53,156 Speaker 1: a popular Bible conference speaker. He's the author of several books, 10 00:00:53,156 --> 00:00:56,476 Speaker 1: and today we're talking about his newest one, the Rekindled 11 00:00:56,756 --> 00:01:01,636 Speaker 1: Heart sixth Essentials for Reviving your Faith. Mark, great to 12 00:01:01,676 --> 00:01:02,436 Speaker 1: have you on the show. 13 00:01:02,636 --> 00:01:04,715 Speaker 3: What an honor to be with you. Sincerely, man, I'm 14 00:01:04,715 --> 00:01:05,116 Speaker 3: a fan. 15 00:01:05,236 --> 00:01:09,836 Speaker 1: So I was just at Legacy Coalition, which is the 16 00:01:09,876 --> 00:01:14,636 Speaker 1: only national grandparenting ministry with a national conference, as you know, 17 00:01:14,796 --> 00:01:18,075 Speaker 1: and it was their tenth anniversary and they showed video 18 00:01:18,116 --> 00:01:21,236 Speaker 1: greetings and yours was one of them, and I thought 19 00:01:21,276 --> 00:01:24,516 Speaker 1: to myself, I've good to have Mark on my podcast. 20 00:01:24,596 --> 00:01:25,516 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. 21 00:01:25,596 --> 00:01:27,596 Speaker 3: You know what, You're gonna love this. I just spoke 22 00:01:27,636 --> 00:01:30,435 Speaker 3: there a couple of years ago, and I felt funny 23 00:01:30,515 --> 00:01:34,036 Speaker 3: because I wasn't a grandparent, but now I'm a grandparent 24 00:01:34,155 --> 00:01:37,236 Speaker 3: as of two weeks ago. I called him back. I said, 25 00:01:37,276 --> 00:01:38,196 Speaker 3: I can be official. 26 00:01:38,235 --> 00:01:40,875 Speaker 1: Now you're totally in the club, and you'll be still 27 00:01:40,916 --> 00:01:42,276 Speaker 1: ready exactly. 28 00:01:43,075 --> 00:01:45,956 Speaker 3: Love got dumped upside down two weeks ago. Today. 29 00:01:46,116 --> 00:01:48,596 Speaker 1: Oh my word, that's amazing. And tell us how many 30 00:01:48,676 --> 00:01:50,796 Speaker 1: adult kids do you have? Kind of the range of 31 00:01:50,836 --> 00:01:51,436 Speaker 1: their ages. 32 00:01:51,636 --> 00:01:56,116 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have four children, girl boy, girl boy. Oldest 33 00:01:56,196 --> 00:01:58,716 Speaker 3: is twenty nine, she's been married for five years. They're 34 00:01:58,716 --> 00:02:02,316 Speaker 3: the ones that just made us grandparents. Well, oldest son 35 00:02:02,436 --> 00:02:04,675 Speaker 3: he is twenty seven. He and his wife have been 36 00:02:04,676 --> 00:02:09,756 Speaker 3: married for eighteen months going on two years. Youngest daughter 37 00:02:09,956 --> 00:02:13,156 Speaker 3: is twenty six. She is not married. She lives at 38 00:02:13,156 --> 00:02:16,836 Speaker 3: home and she has about like six different jobs. How creative, 39 00:02:17,116 --> 00:02:20,236 Speaker 3: and she actually needs to be president of the United States. Yeah. 40 00:02:21,076 --> 00:02:24,076 Speaker 3: And then our youngest sign so child number four, he 41 00:02:24,276 --> 00:02:27,275 Speaker 3: is twenty four and he gets married in three weeks. 42 00:02:27,395 --> 00:02:28,835 Speaker 2: My goodness, this is amazing. 43 00:02:28,996 --> 00:02:32,036 Speaker 3: So we are just in wonderful cast. They're all close 44 00:02:32,156 --> 00:02:34,835 Speaker 3: to us. We are incredibly spoiled so we get to 45 00:02:34,835 --> 00:02:36,596 Speaker 3: see them. In fact, I'm the one that messes it 46 00:02:36,596 --> 00:02:38,236 Speaker 3: all up because my wife, Jennifer, and I are on 47 00:02:38,236 --> 00:02:39,996 Speaker 3: the road all the time because of what we do 48 00:02:40,036 --> 00:02:43,115 Speaker 3: for Dallas Seminary Tour Honor. But they're like, oh, you're 49 00:02:43,115 --> 00:02:43,876 Speaker 3: out of town again. 50 00:02:44,036 --> 00:02:45,196 Speaker 2: Come on, it's not funny. 51 00:02:45,276 --> 00:02:48,236 Speaker 1: It's like usually us parents are like trying to nail 52 00:02:48,276 --> 00:02:50,356 Speaker 1: down our kids, like can you please spend time with me, 53 00:02:50,596 --> 00:02:52,395 Speaker 1: you know, have dinner together, And they're like, wow, Dad 54 00:02:52,436 --> 00:02:53,956 Speaker 1: is so busy. How we're going to get him on 55 00:02:53,996 --> 00:02:57,115 Speaker 1: the calendar right? But this makes your adult kids want 56 00:02:57,115 --> 00:02:59,836 Speaker 1: to be with you because instead of you being crowding 57 00:03:00,036 --> 00:03:02,396 Speaker 1: right in their space all the time, they're like, Dad, 58 00:03:02,436 --> 00:03:03,275 Speaker 1: we want to hang out. 59 00:03:03,516 --> 00:03:05,756 Speaker 3: Well, when I moved into the presidency, I'm not making 60 00:03:05,756 --> 00:03:08,395 Speaker 3: this up. We voted and they all had veto power. 61 00:03:08,436 --> 00:03:10,476 Speaker 3: I gave it to everybody in the family. So we 62 00:03:10,516 --> 00:03:13,796 Speaker 3: really prayed through this. When the board asked and me 63 00:03:13,956 --> 00:03:16,596 Speaker 3: to move into this role, and it was a total 64 00:03:16,876 --> 00:03:19,476 Speaker 3: family decision. Wow, And I just said, any of you 65 00:03:19,516 --> 00:03:22,115 Speaker 3: have veto power. All you have to do is say no. Good. 66 00:03:22,115 --> 00:03:25,236 Speaker 3: They came back and they were in unanimity. I mean 67 00:03:25,276 --> 00:03:27,716 Speaker 3: they were like, Dad, God wants you to do this. 68 00:03:27,835 --> 00:03:30,116 Speaker 3: We're with you one hundred percent. Let's go. And so 69 00:03:30,436 --> 00:03:32,596 Speaker 3: I couldn't have done it without them. Wow, and them 70 00:03:32,796 --> 00:03:33,956 Speaker 3: cheerleading in my corner. 71 00:03:34,476 --> 00:03:36,756 Speaker 1: I want to I want to just stay here for 72 00:03:36,916 --> 00:03:38,836 Speaker 1: just a moment because one of you know, we're talking 73 00:03:38,836 --> 00:03:42,716 Speaker 1: about rekindling our faith, our zeal for God. One of 74 00:03:42,756 --> 00:03:46,716 Speaker 1: them that you talk about is that rekindled like humility, 75 00:03:47,156 --> 00:03:51,036 Speaker 1: like to have humility, and that is a humble things. 76 00:03:51,316 --> 00:03:53,356 Speaker 1: As you're the adult, right that you can make this 77 00:03:53,436 --> 00:03:56,276 Speaker 1: decision with or without your kids, so to speak. But 78 00:03:56,316 --> 00:03:58,316 Speaker 1: you're saying, kids, what do you think? 79 00:03:58,356 --> 00:03:58,836 Speaker 3: Talk like? 80 00:03:58,876 --> 00:04:01,916 Speaker 1: Why did that thought process go through? And I love 81 00:04:01,996 --> 00:04:04,276 Speaker 1: talking to you because many of our listeners, you know, 82 00:04:04,356 --> 00:04:06,996 Speaker 1: we have little kids or our kids are teenagers. So 83 00:04:07,076 --> 00:04:09,516 Speaker 1: for us to understand this is how I would interact 84 00:04:09,596 --> 00:04:11,916 Speaker 1: with my kids as adults, kind of take us through that. 85 00:04:12,716 --> 00:04:15,996 Speaker 3: Well, you know, here's the hourity of it is here 86 00:04:16,036 --> 00:04:20,476 Speaker 3: we are parents and or grandparents, and we too are 87 00:04:20,476 --> 00:04:23,716 Speaker 3: little kids. I mean, you know, there's there's a reason 88 00:04:23,756 --> 00:04:26,996 Speaker 3: Scripture when it references us as the children of God, 89 00:04:27,596 --> 00:04:31,876 Speaker 3: when Jesus took a little child and had that little 90 00:04:31,916 --> 00:04:36,236 Speaker 3: child stand among them. I was just in Capernaum actually 91 00:04:36,315 --> 00:04:38,395 Speaker 3: about four weeks ago when the war broke out. I 92 00:04:38,436 --> 00:04:41,315 Speaker 3: was leaving for Israel. That's a whole nother episode for us. 93 00:04:42,195 --> 00:04:45,716 Speaker 3: But yeah, that I love teaching that in Capernaum because 94 00:04:45,716 --> 00:04:48,996 Speaker 3: that's where it happened and Jesus takes this little child. 95 00:04:48,996 --> 00:04:52,395 Speaker 3: And a lot of times I've heard people say, you know, yeah, 96 00:04:52,436 --> 00:04:53,876 Speaker 3: we need to be in the position of a little 97 00:04:53,956 --> 00:04:57,196 Speaker 3: child because children are innocent. I'm like, well, you're obviously 98 00:04:57,195 --> 00:04:59,596 Speaker 3: not a parent or a grandparent. I mean, as far 99 00:04:59,636 --> 00:05:02,755 Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, kids are wonderful, but they're little sinners. 100 00:05:02,796 --> 00:05:04,556 Speaker 3: There's a reason we put them in a crib behind 101 00:05:04,596 --> 00:05:08,195 Speaker 3: bars that really belong and you know, and I'm like, 102 00:05:08,236 --> 00:05:09,955 Speaker 3: but here, let me tell you what that little kid is. 103 00:05:09,996 --> 00:05:15,756 Speaker 3: That little kid is incredibly dependent. That could exist in 104 00:05:15,796 --> 00:05:19,315 Speaker 3: a position of humility. You have to children aren't gonna 105 00:05:19,356 --> 00:05:23,156 Speaker 3: make it right without help and provision and food and shelter. 106 00:05:23,836 --> 00:05:26,716 Speaker 3: And so when we are asked to remember that's who 107 00:05:26,755 --> 00:05:31,515 Speaker 3: we are, that we are dependent upon our heavenly Father. Well, 108 00:05:31,596 --> 00:05:35,515 Speaker 3: I think that as parents, when we model that for 109 00:05:35,636 --> 00:05:38,996 Speaker 3: our kids of letting them see, hey, I to them 110 00:05:39,076 --> 00:05:42,716 Speaker 3: under authority and we're all in this together. I mean, 111 00:05:42,796 --> 00:05:46,356 Speaker 3: it's empowering to our kids to say we need to 112 00:05:46,436 --> 00:05:51,436 Speaker 3: make as a family, write decisions together. Now, it doesn't 113 00:05:51,476 --> 00:05:54,236 Speaker 3: mean that it's a democratic process. There are times that 114 00:05:54,315 --> 00:05:56,395 Speaker 3: mom and dads have to be mom and dads, and 115 00:05:56,436 --> 00:05:58,716 Speaker 3: we know that too. That's a whole nother time. But 116 00:05:58,755 --> 00:06:02,315 Speaker 3: when you can bring your children into the dialogue and 117 00:06:02,396 --> 00:06:06,276 Speaker 3: let them participate, give them a voice, it is amazing 118 00:06:06,356 --> 00:06:10,276 Speaker 3: what that does to empower them, seeing mom and dad 119 00:06:10,516 --> 00:06:13,075 Speaker 3: as a child of God dependent upon the Lord in 120 00:06:13,116 --> 00:06:15,635 Speaker 3: all situations. So that's what we even tried to model 121 00:06:15,836 --> 00:06:18,156 Speaker 3: in what I was just describing to you, to say, hey, 122 00:06:18,436 --> 00:06:21,796 Speaker 3: we can't this without you and we need your affirmation 123 00:06:21,956 --> 00:06:23,395 Speaker 3: if this is what we're supposed to do. 124 00:06:23,716 --> 00:06:26,356 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, I love that part in the book. 125 00:06:26,356 --> 00:06:29,916 Speaker 1: You're talking about your firstborn, Kayla, and that she was 126 00:06:29,996 --> 00:06:33,476 Speaker 1: behind the bars, behind the crib bars, And that's one 127 00:06:33,516 --> 00:06:34,716 Speaker 1: of those things in. 128 00:06:34,676 --> 00:06:36,276 Speaker 2: Your book, rekindled dependence. 129 00:06:36,676 --> 00:06:39,396 Speaker 1: How can a parent hold because you know, we think, oh, 130 00:06:39,396 --> 00:06:41,916 Speaker 1: we only are this or that, black or white, But 131 00:06:42,076 --> 00:06:44,396 Speaker 1: we can hold two things at the same time. We 132 00:06:44,476 --> 00:06:49,356 Speaker 1: can be totally dependent on God and also completely lead 133 00:06:49,796 --> 00:06:52,436 Speaker 1: our children. Help us with that that we can hold both. 134 00:06:52,716 --> 00:06:57,036 Speaker 3: Yeah, one is our spiritual posture, right, and that is 135 00:06:57,156 --> 00:07:01,676 Speaker 3: that position of dependence, that position of humility that I 136 00:07:01,716 --> 00:07:04,356 Speaker 3: really try to talk about in the book. I also 137 00:07:04,516 --> 00:07:08,556 Speaker 3: realize that parents are called to lead their children in 138 00:07:08,596 --> 00:07:11,396 Speaker 3: the ways of the Lord and to point them towards 139 00:07:11,436 --> 00:07:14,076 Speaker 3: the cross. And that doesn't mean that we have all 140 00:07:14,116 --> 00:07:16,715 Speaker 3: the answers. It took me a long time to realize 141 00:07:16,756 --> 00:07:21,836 Speaker 3: that that leadership at times with my children meant acknowledging 142 00:07:21,876 --> 00:07:26,596 Speaker 3: my mistakes, telling them when I'm frustrated, telling them when 143 00:07:26,876 --> 00:07:29,316 Speaker 3: mom and dad don't know what to do. So right now, 144 00:07:29,316 --> 00:07:31,436 Speaker 3: we're going to pray, and we need you to pray 145 00:07:31,476 --> 00:07:34,036 Speaker 3: with us. I mean all of that. Think of what 146 00:07:34,076 --> 00:07:39,756 Speaker 3: we're doing there. We're leading, Yeah, but we're leading through humility, right, 147 00:07:39,876 --> 00:07:44,556 Speaker 3: We're leading through service. And by the way, I would argue, right, 148 00:07:44,556 --> 00:07:47,756 Speaker 3: that's Philippians chapter two, that's the model of our savior. 149 00:07:48,436 --> 00:07:53,636 Speaker 3: I mean his time of positioning himself away and having 150 00:07:53,716 --> 00:07:58,116 Speaker 3: time with the father and to reorient his focus and 151 00:07:58,156 --> 00:08:01,316 Speaker 3: his perspective. All of those things are what we're called. 152 00:08:01,356 --> 00:08:03,956 Speaker 3: So I do think there's a tension there. I acknowledgy, 153 00:08:03,956 --> 00:08:06,396 Speaker 3: and you use that word, but I think it's one 154 00:08:06,436 --> 00:08:09,036 Speaker 3: that we have to hold in that healthy holy tension. 155 00:08:09,276 --> 00:08:10,876 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good, you know. 156 00:08:11,036 --> 00:08:13,956 Speaker 1: So you're the president of a seminary and you've heard 157 00:08:13,996 --> 00:08:17,636 Speaker 1: all the jokes. It's a cemetery, you know, it's like 158 00:08:17,676 --> 00:08:21,436 Speaker 1: nothing new there, Yeah, nothing there. But in the same way, 159 00:08:22,316 --> 00:08:27,156 Speaker 1: you know, a Christian who goes into seminary completely pumped up, 160 00:08:27,316 --> 00:08:29,756 Speaker 1: like let's save the world for Jesus, and then two 161 00:08:29,836 --> 00:08:32,436 Speaker 1: years in is like, oh my word, I am just 162 00:08:32,476 --> 00:08:35,436 Speaker 1: barely making it. You know, we as parents can be 163 00:08:35,476 --> 00:08:37,356 Speaker 1: the same way, like we're going to lead our kids. 164 00:08:37,556 --> 00:08:39,316 Speaker 2: We're going to be on fire for God. We're going 165 00:08:39,396 --> 00:08:39,796 Speaker 2: to do this. 166 00:08:39,916 --> 00:08:42,516 Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh my goodness, we have all 167 00:08:42,556 --> 00:08:44,876 Speaker 1: this paperwork for the field trip and so on. So 168 00:08:44,956 --> 00:08:47,076 Speaker 1: I've got trouble with the grades, and I've got the 169 00:08:47,076 --> 00:08:49,076 Speaker 1: carpool going and the soccer game going. 170 00:08:49,196 --> 00:08:53,196 Speaker 2: So first of all, how do we keep from entering 171 00:08:53,236 --> 00:08:54,956 Speaker 2: the cemetery? Let's start there. 172 00:08:55,436 --> 00:08:58,916 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do we keep from entering the cemetery? Well, 173 00:08:58,996 --> 00:09:01,476 Speaker 3: I do know that God has a tendency to lead 174 00:09:01,556 --> 00:09:05,356 Speaker 3: us in both the valleys of life and the mountaintops 175 00:09:05,356 --> 00:09:08,076 Speaker 3: of life. And he's got on the mountaintop. He's got 176 00:09:08,116 --> 00:09:09,916 Speaker 3: to be the gun of the valley. Right, we know 177 00:09:10,036 --> 00:09:13,476 Speaker 3: that to be true. You know, I tell students at 178 00:09:13,556 --> 00:09:17,916 Speaker 3: the seminary all at the Cemetery Military Seminary all the 179 00:09:17,956 --> 00:09:20,276 Speaker 3: time that I'm like, hey, if you're here, to get 180 00:09:20,316 --> 00:09:22,316 Speaker 3: a piece of paper and put it on a wall 181 00:09:22,356 --> 00:09:26,956 Speaker 3: and lord it over others, do me, Do you do 182 00:09:27,076 --> 00:09:29,356 Speaker 3: the church a favor and go down to the Registrar's 183 00:09:29,356 --> 00:09:34,036 Speaker 3: office and quit now withdraw. That's not why we're in this, 184 00:09:34,036 --> 00:09:36,796 Speaker 3: this to know the word of God. I mean our 185 00:09:36,836 --> 00:09:39,036 Speaker 3: mission at the Seminary when I say this, and I 186 00:09:39,076 --> 00:09:41,916 Speaker 3: take it very seriously, is to glorify God. That's our 187 00:09:42,036 --> 00:09:45,276 Speaker 3: very first statement. It is to glorify God by equipping 188 00:09:45,996 --> 00:09:49,636 Speaker 3: godly servant leaders for the proclamation of His word and 189 00:09:49,676 --> 00:09:51,956 Speaker 3: the building up of the Body of Christ worldwide. So 190 00:09:52,076 --> 00:09:55,236 Speaker 3: our job at Dallas Seminary, what we're chasing after, is 191 00:09:55,276 --> 00:09:59,396 Speaker 3: to bring glory to God by equipping others. But that's 192 00:09:59,436 --> 00:10:03,596 Speaker 3: equipping in His word. And so what I tell students, 193 00:10:03,636 --> 00:10:06,796 Speaker 3: I said, it's possible become smart and have your heart 194 00:10:06,876 --> 00:10:10,356 Speaker 3: far away from God. You know, one of my mentors 195 00:10:10,356 --> 00:10:13,756 Speaker 3: of the faith, a guy who is a legendary here 196 00:10:13,796 --> 00:10:17,396 Speaker 3: at Dallas Seminary. His name was Howard Hendrix and was 197 00:10:17,436 --> 00:10:20,476 Speaker 3: this master Communich And I can remember he would for 198 00:10:20,636 --> 00:10:23,436 Speaker 3: years walk into my office and he'd lean over my desk. 199 00:10:23,676 --> 00:10:27,916 Speaker 3: He always called me Yarborough Yarborough, and that was his 200 00:10:28,196 --> 00:10:30,716 Speaker 3: pet name for me Yarborough. I don't want you forget 201 00:10:30,756 --> 00:10:34,876 Speaker 3: the Bible was not written to satisfy your curiosity. It 202 00:10:34,956 --> 00:10:39,556 Speaker 3: was written to change your life. And prop was right 203 00:10:40,156 --> 00:10:42,996 Speaker 3: because I think it's easy for any of us, any believer. 204 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:45,756 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm all into studying God's word, right, I'm 205 00:10:45,796 --> 00:10:48,076 Speaker 3: teaching the Bible department, That's what I do. I mean, 206 00:10:48,116 --> 00:10:50,276 Speaker 3: so facts and figures needs to be part of it, 207 00:10:50,676 --> 00:10:53,676 Speaker 3: but knowledge can puff up. If God's word is not 208 00:10:53,956 --> 00:10:58,796 Speaker 3: softening our heart, then it means we're squelching the spirit, right, 209 00:10:58,876 --> 00:11:01,596 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what it means, And so we've got 210 00:11:01,596 --> 00:11:05,756 Speaker 3: to be on guard about that. If we do that, 211 00:11:05,836 --> 00:11:08,356 Speaker 3: if we squelch the spirit, then I promise you this 212 00:11:08,436 --> 00:11:12,516 Speaker 3: will be Dallas Theological Cemetery. And I don't want that 213 00:11:12,636 --> 00:11:17,636 Speaker 3: for any student because what we should see in this environment, Oh, 214 00:11:17,676 --> 00:11:19,956 Speaker 3: it's hard work. Of course, it's hard work. I'm not 215 00:11:20,036 --> 00:11:23,716 Speaker 3: doubting that. And the schooling of life occurs for students. 216 00:11:23,836 --> 00:11:26,316 Speaker 3: I always say there's two kinds of classrooms, right, there's 217 00:11:26,356 --> 00:11:28,396 Speaker 3: the classroom that you're going to engage with here when 218 00:11:28,396 --> 00:11:30,316 Speaker 3: you're sitting in a class and you've got a Greek 219 00:11:30,356 --> 00:11:33,196 Speaker 3: exam and you have a paper that's due on Tuesday. 220 00:11:33,876 --> 00:11:37,836 Speaker 3: And then there's another kind of seminary, and that's the 221 00:11:37,836 --> 00:11:40,796 Speaker 3: one that happens outside when your car breaks down and 222 00:11:40,836 --> 00:11:43,356 Speaker 3: your kid gets sick and you get a medical report 223 00:11:43,916 --> 00:11:46,676 Speaker 3: and you don't know where that next bill is going 224 00:11:46,716 --> 00:11:50,116 Speaker 3: to get paid. And all of that is also another 225 00:11:50,196 --> 00:11:55,196 Speaker 3: part of God's tutoring that he gives us. So you know, 226 00:11:55,516 --> 00:11:57,476 Speaker 3: I tell students all the time. And to come back 227 00:11:57,516 --> 00:12:01,276 Speaker 3: to your question, is you prevent it from being a 228 00:12:01,276 --> 00:12:07,276 Speaker 3: cemetery by being alive in your step with the spirit? Yes, period, 229 00:12:07,356 --> 00:12:07,716 Speaker 3: that's it. 230 00:12:08,076 --> 00:12:08,316 Speaker 2: Yeah. 231 00:12:09,156 --> 00:12:13,276 Speaker 1: You know when you said the vision of Dallas Theological Seminary, 232 00:12:13,396 --> 00:12:15,836 Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but you overlay that into a home 233 00:12:16,436 --> 00:12:19,796 Speaker 1: you say, my vision is to glorify crime, and then. 234 00:12:19,676 --> 00:12:24,076 Speaker 3: Continue with it, Yeah, to glorify. 235 00:12:23,556 --> 00:12:26,396 Speaker 2: Christ, to glorify God by equipping. 236 00:12:26,116 --> 00:12:27,516 Speaker 3: Godly servant leaders. 237 00:12:27,556 --> 00:12:29,956 Speaker 1: So that's what we're doing with our children, by equipping 238 00:12:30,076 --> 00:12:31,956 Speaker 1: godly servant leaders. 239 00:12:31,436 --> 00:12:34,036 Speaker 3: The proclamation of His word and the building up of 240 00:12:34,076 --> 00:12:35,476 Speaker 3: the body of Christ worldwide. 241 00:12:35,636 --> 00:12:38,556 Speaker 1: Right, So that's like beautiful because it is a mission 242 00:12:38,636 --> 00:12:41,556 Speaker 1: that you have at home, and I would think if 243 00:12:41,596 --> 00:12:45,636 Speaker 1: a parent has a mission like that, it's going to 244 00:12:45,716 --> 00:12:49,076 Speaker 1: help keep those hearts soft and those hearts hot for 245 00:12:49,196 --> 00:12:51,876 Speaker 1: God as their kids age. I'm so glad you said 246 00:12:51,876 --> 00:12:54,316 Speaker 1: that quote about from doctor Hendrix because I'd written it down. 247 00:12:54,396 --> 00:12:56,996 Speaker 1: The Bible was not written to satisfy your curiosity. It 248 00:12:57,036 --> 00:12:59,916 Speaker 1: was written to change your life. So I think of 249 00:12:59,956 --> 00:13:02,556 Speaker 1: doctor Richard Ross, who I've heard speak many times from 250 00:13:02,596 --> 00:13:07,076 Speaker 1: Southwestern Theological Seminary, and he has this thing where, you know, 251 00:13:07,116 --> 00:13:10,756 Speaker 1: because if the outcome we want kids who follow Christ, 252 00:13:11,156 --> 00:13:13,516 Speaker 1: you know, when they're adults, let's say that's one of 253 00:13:13,556 --> 00:13:16,196 Speaker 1: the maybe the greatest outcomes that we want, more than 254 00:13:16,236 --> 00:13:19,276 Speaker 1: a great college degree, more than you know, being super 255 00:13:19,276 --> 00:13:21,476 Speaker 1: smart or sports whatever you want them to know Christ. 256 00:13:22,156 --> 00:13:25,156 Speaker 1: So he talks about this just this kind of formula. 257 00:13:25,196 --> 00:13:27,476 Speaker 1: That's probably not the right word for this, but if 258 00:13:27,476 --> 00:13:32,276 Speaker 1: you have lost parents, that typically generates lost kids. If 259 00:13:32,316 --> 00:13:36,356 Speaker 1: you have convert parents, you get lost kids because convert 260 00:13:36,436 --> 00:13:38,636 Speaker 1: parents are those you have a relationship with God, but 261 00:13:38,836 --> 00:13:40,556 Speaker 1: the most important thing in your life. 262 00:13:40,356 --> 00:13:41,276 Speaker 2: Is you still. 263 00:13:41,876 --> 00:13:44,836 Speaker 1: But if you have disciple parents that are really following 264 00:13:45,236 --> 00:13:49,356 Speaker 1: in Jesus's footsteps, then you tend to get disciple kids. 265 00:13:50,196 --> 00:13:51,716 Speaker 2: So let's talk about how. 266 00:13:51,596 --> 00:13:53,716 Speaker 1: You know, we want these wonderful things for our children. 267 00:13:54,116 --> 00:13:56,356 Speaker 1: But it really comes down to like, well, what are 268 00:13:56,396 --> 00:13:59,396 Speaker 1: we modeling? What kind of faith do I have? What 269 00:13:59,796 --> 00:14:02,716 Speaker 1: do you have? Like parenting moments that you remember that 270 00:14:02,756 --> 00:14:04,996 Speaker 1: you thought like, oh my goodness, this is really about me. 271 00:14:06,196 --> 00:14:08,636 Speaker 3: Oh I have thousands of them, Oh my god. I mean, 272 00:14:08,676 --> 00:14:11,956 Speaker 3: how long do you want this podcast to be? Yeah? 273 00:14:11,996 --> 00:14:15,476 Speaker 3: I talk about my kids all the time, and because 274 00:14:15,796 --> 00:14:18,556 Speaker 3: and still, but when they were little, man, I had 275 00:14:18,596 --> 00:14:22,476 Speaker 3: all sorts of episodes with my children teaching me about one. 276 00:14:22,676 --> 00:14:25,316 Speaker 3: I have a whole session sometimes that I talk about 277 00:14:25,676 --> 00:14:29,196 Speaker 3: the seven characteristics of a committed Christ follower of you know, 278 00:14:29,676 --> 00:14:32,436 Speaker 3: you plow through the Gospels and the Letters and the 279 00:14:32,476 --> 00:14:34,956 Speaker 3: New Testament as a whole, you really do begin to 280 00:14:34,996 --> 00:14:40,676 Speaker 3: see there are some very distinct traits of disciples. And 281 00:14:41,956 --> 00:14:45,516 Speaker 3: I've got a whole section in a presentation that I 282 00:14:45,636 --> 00:14:49,716 Speaker 3: love to make. It's about my children, how they taught 283 00:14:49,756 --> 00:14:54,476 Speaker 3: me about these traits that I saw in them that 284 00:14:54,556 --> 00:14:57,636 Speaker 3: I knew weren't always being modeled by me. I mean 285 00:14:57,676 --> 00:15:00,236 Speaker 3: they were teaching me right. I Mean, it's one of 286 00:15:00,316 --> 00:15:03,116 Speaker 3: the things about parenting that I probably most of us 287 00:15:03,116 --> 00:15:06,196 Speaker 3: didn't realize that. You know, you have kids, and that's 288 00:15:06,236 --> 00:15:08,636 Speaker 3: where God's going to teach you. It is one of 289 00:15:08,676 --> 00:15:13,836 Speaker 3: God's greatest schools to take you to class as a 290 00:15:13,956 --> 00:15:20,076 Speaker 3: parent and to see your your tendencies, your struggles, your sin, 291 00:15:21,876 --> 00:15:30,756 Speaker 3: your frailties, your convictions, your apathy, your empathy. I mean, 292 00:15:30,796 --> 00:15:33,796 Speaker 3: I could go on and on about all of this. 293 00:15:34,036 --> 00:15:37,116 Speaker 3: It kind of gets exposed for good or for bad. 294 00:15:37,956 --> 00:15:40,516 Speaker 3: And Jennifer I used to talk about the fact that 295 00:15:40,956 --> 00:15:43,196 Speaker 3: you know when they're when they're little, you don't see it. 296 00:15:43,236 --> 00:15:45,916 Speaker 3: But when they start getting a little older, you start 297 00:15:46,036 --> 00:15:50,756 Speaker 3: seeing some of your traits, the things that you actually, 298 00:15:50,836 --> 00:15:54,956 Speaker 3: deep down are not proud of, and you start seeing 299 00:15:54,996 --> 00:16:00,636 Speaker 3: them reflected in your children. That's a convicting moment. So 300 00:16:00,756 --> 00:16:03,996 Speaker 3: what I talk about with young parents, and we have 301 00:16:04,236 --> 00:16:07,276 Speaker 3: tons of young parents of Dallas seminaries you can imagine, 302 00:16:07,916 --> 00:16:11,796 Speaker 3: is I talk about parenting with intentionality. I think that 303 00:16:11,876 --> 00:16:14,196 Speaker 3: it is such an easy habit for us to fall 304 00:16:14,236 --> 00:16:17,836 Speaker 3: into of just going, Okay, we're married, it's time to 305 00:16:17,876 --> 00:16:21,076 Speaker 3: have kids. Let's get a new toy, and that's kind 306 00:16:21,116 --> 00:16:23,676 Speaker 3: of the way sometimes we step into. It's not that 307 00:16:23,716 --> 00:16:27,316 Speaker 3: there's not an appreciation. It's not that there's not love 308 00:16:27,436 --> 00:16:31,156 Speaker 3: for that child, but it's a different topic when you 309 00:16:31,236 --> 00:16:34,756 Speaker 3: start thinking of I am now God has given me 310 00:16:34,916 --> 00:16:38,836 Speaker 3: someone to I'm going to use your word disciple. Yeah, 311 00:16:38,876 --> 00:16:42,956 Speaker 3: and how do I disciple this child with intentionality? 312 00:16:43,236 --> 00:16:43,476 Speaker 2: Yes? 313 00:16:43,876 --> 00:16:47,596 Speaker 3: And if you don't have a plan, I assure you 314 00:16:48,156 --> 00:16:51,516 Speaker 3: that means you will not hit the goal. Now, it's 315 00:16:51,556 --> 00:16:54,156 Speaker 3: all the grace of God and we know that. But 316 00:16:54,436 --> 00:16:58,196 Speaker 3: the likelihood of seeing what you long to see without 317 00:16:58,236 --> 00:17:04,556 Speaker 3: having a forward motion plan is few and far between. 318 00:17:05,116 --> 00:17:07,916 Speaker 3: And so I tell people, what's your intentional plan to 319 00:17:08,116 --> 00:17:12,196 Speaker 3: raise your child? What is the environment? What models are 320 00:17:12,236 --> 00:17:15,035 Speaker 3: you going to show them? What are you going to 321 00:17:15,356 --> 00:17:21,396 Speaker 3: intentionally teach them at home? So this is a huge topic, 322 00:17:21,436 --> 00:17:22,956 Speaker 3: but I can see if you don't have a goal, 323 00:17:22,995 --> 00:17:23,835 Speaker 3: you're not going to hit it. 324 00:17:25,196 --> 00:17:28,636 Speaker 1: So let's make it just a tiny bit so you 325 00:17:28,636 --> 00:17:30,916 Speaker 1: know someone's listening. Okay, I want to make a plan. 326 00:17:31,796 --> 00:17:34,475 Speaker 1: What just give them a snapshot. What might this look 327 00:17:34,556 --> 00:17:36,355 Speaker 1: like in a day, Like something they could do that 328 00:17:36,475 --> 00:17:37,875 Speaker 1: was different, This showed intention? 329 00:17:38,475 --> 00:17:40,116 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I tell you what. There's a lot of 330 00:17:40,196 --> 00:17:42,036 Speaker 3: things we could do, but I would talk about these 331 00:17:42,116 --> 00:17:46,636 Speaker 3: seven traits of a disciple and start plowing through scripture 332 00:17:46,636 --> 00:17:50,555 Speaker 3: and asking and saying, am I a disciple? And how 333 00:17:50,596 --> 00:17:54,995 Speaker 3: do I become a disciple allure to my child? Yeah, 334 00:17:55,035 --> 00:17:59,715 Speaker 3: that's a fascinating question. Am I a good disciple of 335 00:17:59,755 --> 00:18:03,836 Speaker 3: the Lord Jesus? In other words, am I committed that 336 00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:07,916 Speaker 3: He is in charge? That I don't own anything, that 337 00:18:07,995 --> 00:18:11,715 Speaker 3: my stuff is his, that I have submitted to the 338 00:18:11,796 --> 00:18:15,196 Speaker 3: sacrifice of the cross, that I am called to be. 339 00:18:15,235 --> 00:18:16,475 Speaker 3: I'm going through the traits here. 340 00:18:16,636 --> 00:18:18,156 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all the thing. I'm feeling. 341 00:18:18,196 --> 00:18:21,275 Speaker 3: The traits are coming for saying these things. And is 342 00:18:21,396 --> 00:18:24,436 Speaker 3: number one is that who I am? Number two? How 343 00:18:24,475 --> 00:18:28,555 Speaker 3: am I going to model those things and intentionally teach 344 00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:31,715 Speaker 3: those things to my children? So as an example, let 345 00:18:31,755 --> 00:18:35,475 Speaker 3: me give you just one example. A month when kids 346 00:18:35,475 --> 00:18:43,516 Speaker 3: are old enough to understand money finances, what I have 347 00:18:43,836 --> 00:18:47,635 Speaker 3: is what can be used to purchase something, and that 348 00:18:47,676 --> 00:18:49,835 Speaker 3: can happen very very early on. 349 00:18:50,396 --> 00:18:50,876 Speaker 2: They get it. 350 00:18:50,916 --> 00:18:54,835 Speaker 1: They're in a candy aisle at the grocery store for me. 351 00:18:54,995 --> 00:18:57,036 Speaker 3: Yes that I mean, this is a piece of cake, right, 352 00:18:57,076 --> 00:18:59,795 Speaker 3: I got this. That gives me that And to talk 353 00:19:00,035 --> 00:19:04,596 Speaker 3: to them intentionally about this money right here that daddy has. 354 00:19:05,436 --> 00:19:10,196 Speaker 3: It's not mine. This is God's money. I am. He's 355 00:19:10,356 --> 00:19:14,235 Speaker 3: loaned that to me. He lets me use it for 356 00:19:14,316 --> 00:19:17,755 Speaker 3: his glory. Now he also lets me use it for 357 00:19:17,876 --> 00:19:23,115 Speaker 3: my good. But if I'm going to use this, I 358 00:19:23,235 --> 00:19:26,155 Speaker 3: always need to make sure that I'm using some of 359 00:19:26,196 --> 00:19:29,156 Speaker 3: it for what is so important to God. Now, God 360 00:19:29,196 --> 00:19:32,396 Speaker 3: also cares that I eat food, and God cares that 361 00:19:32,475 --> 00:19:35,396 Speaker 3: I have clothes to wear, and that is His gift. 362 00:19:35,596 --> 00:19:40,795 Speaker 3: But talking through that with children and then in trusting 363 00:19:40,995 --> 00:19:43,356 Speaker 3: funding to them, some of the things that we saw 364 00:19:43,475 --> 00:19:46,035 Speaker 3: in some of our kids, you know, others it was 365 00:19:46,116 --> 00:19:49,076 Speaker 3: like prying out of their hand, and you can see 366 00:19:49,076 --> 00:19:53,116 Speaker 3: certain natures rear its head. But others of like Dad, 367 00:19:52,916 --> 00:19:55,676 Speaker 3: I don't need that. I don't need that pack of gum. 368 00:19:55,836 --> 00:19:57,875 Speaker 3: I need to give that away because I know what 369 00:19:57,995 --> 00:20:00,916 Speaker 3: happened to Billy. At church. He told the story, and 370 00:20:00,995 --> 00:20:03,755 Speaker 3: so you would see these soft sides. And so with 371 00:20:03,995 --> 00:20:08,396 Speaker 3: every child it's different. You know this to be true. 372 00:20:08,436 --> 00:20:10,756 Speaker 3: We have four children, and I am still to this 373 00:20:10,916 --> 00:20:12,715 Speaker 3: day saying, did they really all come out of the 374 00:20:12,755 --> 00:20:16,636 Speaker 3: same Jason. I mean, they're just so wired, they're the same, 375 00:20:17,475 --> 00:20:20,916 Speaker 3: and yet they're incredibly different. So I'm using that one 376 00:20:20,955 --> 00:20:22,676 Speaker 3: as an example because I like that a lot. One 377 00:20:22,676 --> 00:20:25,835 Speaker 3: of the traits of a disciple is to realize that 378 00:20:26,755 --> 00:20:27,635 Speaker 3: we own nothing. 379 00:20:27,876 --> 00:20:29,116 Speaker 2: These resources are God's. 380 00:20:29,356 --> 00:20:32,715 Speaker 3: All resources are Gods. And so how do you talk 381 00:20:33,076 --> 00:20:36,916 Speaker 3: openly with your child, so your grandchild, about that and 382 00:20:37,035 --> 00:20:40,795 Speaker 3: let them know how you're processing that. That makes that 383 00:20:40,955 --> 00:20:44,636 Speaker 3: is huge for that child that's listening. They're framing their 384 00:20:44,796 --> 00:20:49,035 Speaker 3: vehicles of the world and what God wants from them. 385 00:20:49,356 --> 00:20:52,156 Speaker 3: We've got to do that early on because that's intentional 386 00:20:52,275 --> 00:20:53,396 Speaker 3: parenting and. 387 00:20:53,356 --> 00:20:56,836 Speaker 1: You're freeing them from future greed and all those things 388 00:20:56,836 --> 00:20:59,475 Speaker 1: and it being so hard to tithe and give because 389 00:20:59,515 --> 00:21:00,836 Speaker 1: you think it's yours and. 390 00:21:00,876 --> 00:21:01,715 Speaker 2: All those things. 391 00:21:01,955 --> 00:21:06,436 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know your book The Rekindled Heart, you know, 392 00:21:06,436 --> 00:21:08,436 Speaker 1: we're talking about like how do you become on. 393 00:21:08,475 --> 00:21:11,275 Speaker 2: Fire for Jesus? And I you know, and I wanted 394 00:21:11,316 --> 00:21:11,955 Speaker 2: to stay here. 395 00:21:12,596 --> 00:21:14,916 Speaker 1: I remember, I think, well, when I was a young person, 396 00:21:15,156 --> 00:21:17,995 Speaker 1: I went to camp, I was at the altar, you know, 397 00:21:18,196 --> 00:21:21,036 Speaker 1: I prayed and honestly like felt the Holy Spirit is 398 00:21:21,116 --> 00:21:23,995 Speaker 1: you know, such a fresh, powerful way. 399 00:21:24,396 --> 00:21:25,836 Speaker 2: You come back to school, you're on. 400 00:21:25,836 --> 00:21:28,036 Speaker 1: Fire for God, You're inviting people to church, you're doing 401 00:21:28,035 --> 00:21:31,795 Speaker 1: it and that's awesome. So that is how how do 402 00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:34,956 Speaker 1: you define so give me a definition for what does 403 00:21:34,955 --> 00:21:36,076 Speaker 1: it look like to be on. 404 00:21:36,076 --> 00:21:36,836 Speaker 2: Fire for God? 405 00:21:37,356 --> 00:21:41,156 Speaker 1: And then help us how do we keep going back there? 406 00:21:41,235 --> 00:21:43,436 Speaker 1: It's kind of like being in love with your spouse, 407 00:21:43,475 --> 00:21:45,756 Speaker 1: that you have this great fire and it's it's got 408 00:21:45,796 --> 00:21:48,235 Speaker 1: something underneath there that's always there, but sometimes you just 409 00:21:48,235 --> 00:21:50,515 Speaker 1: got to throw something on there to keep it going. 410 00:21:50,755 --> 00:21:53,436 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, I tell you what I mean the 411 00:21:53,836 --> 00:21:56,836 Speaker 3: way I frequently talk about this. Let me give you 412 00:21:56,876 --> 00:21:59,555 Speaker 3: a picture because there was an interesting story that started 413 00:21:59,596 --> 00:22:01,436 Speaker 3: this whole thing for me, and then I'll get to 414 00:22:01,475 --> 00:22:06,315 Speaker 3: these questions. Yeah, it started. I was camping and I 415 00:22:06,475 --> 00:22:09,356 Speaker 3: was out in the wild of Wyoming, which I'd love 416 00:22:09,436 --> 00:22:14,436 Speaker 3: to be, and I got up early one morning, and 417 00:22:14,475 --> 00:22:16,795 Speaker 3: the rule of camp is that whoever gets up there 418 00:22:16,796 --> 00:22:18,836 Speaker 3: earlist has to start the fire. So I was kind 419 00:22:18,836 --> 00:22:22,075 Speaker 3: of gathering some tender to get a fire going, and 420 00:22:23,196 --> 00:22:25,715 Speaker 3: a friend of mine was also on this trip, and 421 00:22:25,755 --> 00:22:28,035 Speaker 3: he was sitting there staring at the fire from the 422 00:22:28,116 --> 00:22:33,236 Speaker 3: night before, and you could see the coals and the 423 00:22:33,275 --> 00:22:36,035 Speaker 3: ashes were kind of over the coals, the coals were underneath, 424 00:22:36,636 --> 00:22:39,035 Speaker 3: and I was getting ready to put the new tender 425 00:22:39,076 --> 00:22:41,475 Speaker 3: on to get the fire going, and he pointed at 426 00:22:41,515 --> 00:22:44,795 Speaker 3: it and he said, that's my faith. He said, it 427 00:22:44,876 --> 00:22:47,636 Speaker 3: used to be like last night, and last night the 428 00:22:47,715 --> 00:22:50,715 Speaker 3: night before, Man, we had this blazing fire and we're 429 00:22:50,715 --> 00:22:53,916 Speaker 3: making some'mores and sit around talking. And he used this 430 00:22:53,955 --> 00:22:56,636 Speaker 3: as a metaphor and he was just like, my faith 431 00:22:56,796 --> 00:22:59,876 Speaker 3: used to be like the night before, and now this 432 00:22:59,916 --> 00:23:03,035 Speaker 3: is where I am. And that's what started moving me 433 00:23:03,156 --> 00:23:08,396 Speaker 3: into these six essentials. And so to come back to 434 00:23:08,515 --> 00:23:12,396 Speaker 3: your question, what does a faith on fire look like? 435 00:23:13,275 --> 00:23:17,515 Speaker 3: So I use a language of saying six essentials. Now, 436 00:23:18,035 --> 00:23:22,116 Speaker 3: please hear me on this. This is not an exhaustive list. 437 00:23:22,235 --> 00:23:25,715 Speaker 3: This is not a to do list. Part of this 438 00:23:26,076 --> 00:23:31,035 Speaker 3: is our thinking and being in many ways. And so 439 00:23:31,356 --> 00:23:34,596 Speaker 3: I do give some things in this of saying, hey, 440 00:23:34,596 --> 00:23:39,115 Speaker 3: these are critical things that if your faith is not 441 00:23:39,396 --> 00:23:43,235 Speaker 3: on fire, these are things that will help ignite it 442 00:23:43,316 --> 00:23:47,836 Speaker 3: and move it forward. And if your faith is on fire, 443 00:23:47,955 --> 00:23:50,076 Speaker 3: praise the Lord for that. And you are in one 444 00:23:50,076 --> 00:23:52,955 Speaker 3: of those moments. We've all been there as a child 445 00:23:52,995 --> 00:23:55,116 Speaker 3: of God. Maybe it's when you first came to faith, 446 00:23:55,235 --> 00:23:58,116 Speaker 3: or you shared the gospel recently and you watch somebody, 447 00:23:58,396 --> 00:24:00,956 Speaker 3: you saw somebody that was entrapped in sin turn their 448 00:24:00,995 --> 00:24:03,116 Speaker 3: life around. I mean, we've all had those moments where 449 00:24:03,116 --> 00:24:07,955 Speaker 3: you see the miracle of God right and you're on 450 00:24:08,076 --> 00:24:11,196 Speaker 3: fire at that moment. And there are certain things that 451 00:24:11,275 --> 00:24:14,116 Speaker 3: seem to be some real traits, and so I give 452 00:24:14,196 --> 00:24:18,235 Speaker 3: these six in the book. It's I talk about it 453 00:24:18,275 --> 00:24:21,996 Speaker 3: as devote bold trust in God's word. It's like there 454 00:24:22,076 --> 00:24:25,436 Speaker 3: is a vibrancy of saying, God, you have spoken, this 455 00:24:25,715 --> 00:24:30,475 Speaker 3: is your word. Please, Lord, let your word pour over me. 456 00:24:30,955 --> 00:24:34,395 Speaker 3: You can't get enough of God in those moments. And 457 00:24:34,396 --> 00:24:36,995 Speaker 3: that's a good place to be. The second one that 458 00:24:37,076 --> 00:24:41,236 Speaker 3: I talk about is it's a position of dependence. It's 459 00:24:41,275 --> 00:24:45,196 Speaker 3: what I call a child Yeah, it's called refrigerator trust. 460 00:24:45,235 --> 00:24:47,916 Speaker 3: In the Yardborough household. When my kids were little, I'd 461 00:24:47,916 --> 00:24:49,796 Speaker 3: put them up on top of the refrigerator and I'd 462 00:24:49,796 --> 00:24:52,475 Speaker 3: stand in front of them with my arms open, my hands, 463 00:24:52,636 --> 00:24:56,355 Speaker 3: and I wanted to teach them, come to Daddy, I'm 464 00:24:56,356 --> 00:24:58,755 Speaker 3: always here, my hands are not going to drop you. 465 00:24:58,836 --> 00:25:03,275 Speaker 3: I'm trustworthy. And I was showing them, to the best 466 00:25:03,356 --> 00:25:08,316 Speaker 3: of my ability, a picture of God. And so walking 467 00:25:08,556 --> 00:25:12,636 Speaker 3: in a position of dependence, sand Lord, today's a new day. 468 00:25:13,196 --> 00:25:15,916 Speaker 3: I've got problems that are in front of me, challenges, 469 00:25:15,995 --> 00:25:18,795 Speaker 3: and I cannot face them alone. That is a so 470 00:25:19,275 --> 00:25:23,235 Speaker 3: position of dependence. That is what a faith on fire 471 00:25:23,316 --> 00:25:23,795 Speaker 3: looks like. 472 00:25:23,876 --> 00:25:26,636 Speaker 1: You can just put yourself. Think of yourself literally sitting 473 00:25:26,676 --> 00:25:30,115 Speaker 1: on the refrigerator. Almighty God is going to catch you. 474 00:25:30,196 --> 00:25:32,676 Speaker 3: That's what we can keep there. You go, that's a 475 00:25:32,715 --> 00:25:35,475 Speaker 3: picture for us. I talk about love and the authentic 476 00:25:35,515 --> 00:25:39,795 Speaker 3: compassion for others. You know, serving others is a big 477 00:25:39,876 --> 00:25:42,955 Speaker 3: deal sometimes to get out of someone, to get out 478 00:25:42,995 --> 00:25:45,795 Speaker 3: of a funk, you know. Yeah, sometimes you got to 479 00:25:45,836 --> 00:25:47,955 Speaker 3: get out of your environment and just go serve people. 480 00:25:48,475 --> 00:25:51,116 Speaker 1: I want to say something about your servant, the rekindled 481 00:25:51,156 --> 00:25:53,715 Speaker 1: serve ahead. I love this example you had in the book, 482 00:25:54,196 --> 00:25:55,156 Speaker 1: is you had this. 483 00:25:55,116 --> 00:25:58,756 Speaker 2: Story from people that you knew. Kids clubhouse rules. 484 00:25:59,116 --> 00:26:01,555 Speaker 1: Oh it was like kids, all different kids coming to 485 00:26:01,556 --> 00:26:05,396 Speaker 1: the clubhouse. It was rule number one. Nobody act big. Yeah, 486 00:26:05,556 --> 00:26:09,516 Speaker 1: rule number two, nobody act little. Rule number three. 487 00:26:09,636 --> 00:26:13,916 Speaker 3: Everybody act medium, everybody act medium. Love for our rules 488 00:26:14,035 --> 00:26:14,436 Speaker 3: right there. 489 00:26:14,676 --> 00:26:15,196 Speaker 2: I love it. 490 00:26:15,316 --> 00:26:17,276 Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty good. Don't be big, don't 491 00:26:17,316 --> 00:26:20,356 Speaker 3: be small, just be medium. That's a good position. 492 00:26:20,396 --> 00:26:23,436 Speaker 1: It's really good for siblings. I feel like you can 493 00:26:23,596 --> 00:26:26,396 Speaker 1: take that work at home. Don't be big, don't be little, 494 00:26:26,556 --> 00:26:27,876 Speaker 1: Everybody be medium. 495 00:26:28,196 --> 00:26:30,715 Speaker 3: Everybody be medium. You know. We had some that wanted 496 00:26:30,715 --> 00:26:33,436 Speaker 3: to be big and some that had no problem being small, 497 00:26:33,475 --> 00:26:35,676 Speaker 3: and you had to build them up, you know. Yes, 498 00:26:36,035 --> 00:26:38,156 Speaker 3: So I talked about in the book. I talk about 499 00:26:38,156 --> 00:26:42,796 Speaker 3: holiness and pursuing God, honoring excellence. Yes, I think that's 500 00:26:42,836 --> 00:26:47,955 Speaker 3: a lost art in Christian culture as a whole, of 501 00:26:48,076 --> 00:26:53,275 Speaker 3: us giving God our best because He's given everything to us. 502 00:26:53,396 --> 00:26:55,515 Speaker 2: Why do you think we have kind of shut that 503 00:26:55,556 --> 00:26:56,076 Speaker 2: one down? 504 00:26:56,715 --> 00:27:00,636 Speaker 3: I think that we have just we've bought into culture 505 00:27:00,755 --> 00:27:06,275 Speaker 3: that says faster and cheaper and you know, cut corners. Yeah. 506 00:27:06,515 --> 00:27:08,875 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that that's where everybody is, please, 507 00:27:09,316 --> 00:27:12,275 Speaker 3: Nor am I saying be a workaholic. But I do 508 00:27:12,356 --> 00:27:14,475 Speaker 3: think there is something to saying let that be a 509 00:27:14,556 --> 00:27:18,196 Speaker 3: pattern of our life as a believer. Because God has 510 00:27:18,275 --> 00:27:22,596 Speaker 3: given us his best, we should be in our call 511 00:27:22,715 --> 00:27:26,716 Speaker 3: to stewardship to give God our best and all these 512 00:27:26,755 --> 00:27:29,515 Speaker 3: gifts and abilities they're not ours. Right, We're back to 513 00:27:29,556 --> 00:27:33,116 Speaker 3: that issue of we're here for a season, and if 514 00:27:33,116 --> 00:27:36,355 Speaker 3: God's given you the ability to be a musician, be 515 00:27:36,515 --> 00:27:39,916 Speaker 3: the best musician you can be for God. If you 516 00:27:39,955 --> 00:27:44,875 Speaker 3: are a Mason, you're a bricklayer, You do it with 517 00:27:45,596 --> 00:27:49,955 Speaker 3: all of your ability. I was talking to about four 518 00:27:50,035 --> 00:27:51,635 Speaker 3: or five years ago. We had some work done at 519 00:27:51,636 --> 00:27:54,636 Speaker 3: our house and we had a tile smith over. He 520 00:27:54,715 --> 00:27:58,476 Speaker 3: was doing some title work in our kitchen and I 521 00:27:58,556 --> 00:28:03,235 Speaker 3: love watching artisans, just love it. And this man was amazing. 522 00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:06,395 Speaker 3: And after a discussion with him, I found out he 523 00:28:06,436 --> 00:28:10,156 Speaker 3: was a believer and he started talking to me. He said, 524 00:28:10,156 --> 00:28:14,036 Speaker 3: you know, I've been good at this for my whole life. 525 00:28:14,116 --> 00:28:16,235 Speaker 3: And he said I started as a young man, and 526 00:28:16,316 --> 00:28:18,315 Speaker 3: I mean, he just does it so fast, you know. 527 00:28:19,196 --> 00:28:21,115 Speaker 3: And I asked him that question. I said, how did 528 00:28:21,156 --> 00:28:24,156 Speaker 3: it change when you became a believer And he said, 529 00:28:24,876 --> 00:28:27,876 Speaker 3: now I know who gave me the gift. And when 530 00:28:27,955 --> 00:28:30,836 Speaker 3: I lay tile, I'll never forget this word. He leans 531 00:28:30,836 --> 00:28:34,436 Speaker 3: on and he said, every tile is laid perfectly for him. Wow. 532 00:28:34,836 --> 00:28:36,676 Speaker 3: I mean it's that great line out of Chariot. Wow. 533 00:28:36,955 --> 00:28:39,875 Speaker 3: When I run, I feel his pleasure, you know. And 534 00:28:39,916 --> 00:28:43,716 Speaker 3: so I do think that's an important thing sometimes saying Okay, 535 00:28:43,916 --> 00:28:46,636 Speaker 3: I'm going to work hard because God, when I do that, 536 00:28:47,036 --> 00:28:50,716 Speaker 3: it reminds me that this ability is from you. 537 00:28:51,036 --> 00:28:53,316 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Let's go think of this. 538 00:28:53,396 --> 00:28:55,476 Speaker 1: So this is a call to excellence, right, This is 539 00:28:55,516 --> 00:28:58,516 Speaker 1: a call to do things well for the glory of 540 00:28:58,556 --> 00:29:02,156 Speaker 1: God ourselves, teach our kids to do the same. How 541 00:29:02,196 --> 00:29:06,236 Speaker 1: does technology fight against this? 542 00:29:06,476 --> 00:29:07,315 Speaker 2: Done? Dundune? 543 00:29:07,636 --> 00:29:10,716 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I tell you what. I am thankful for 544 00:29:10,796 --> 00:29:14,116 Speaker 3: small parts of technology, very small parts, very small parts. 545 00:29:14,196 --> 00:29:15,076 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. 546 00:29:15,436 --> 00:29:16,956 Speaker 3: I'm thankful that we can do this. 547 00:29:17,556 --> 00:29:18,036 Speaker 2: Yeah. 548 00:29:18,116 --> 00:29:20,636 Speaker 3: I have students all over the world that would never 549 00:29:20,676 --> 00:29:24,556 Speaker 3: have an opportunity to come to Dallas, Texas. Yeah. I 550 00:29:24,676 --> 00:29:28,635 Speaker 3: have friends that are in all sorts of countries serving 551 00:29:28,676 --> 00:29:31,276 Speaker 3: the Lord that I can keep in contact with. I 552 00:29:31,316 --> 00:29:34,155 Speaker 3: can talk to my kids, I can keep up with 553 00:29:34,196 --> 00:29:36,916 Speaker 3: my mom and dad, all of those things I'm thinking. 554 00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:41,516 Speaker 3: But I tell you what, these things have also been 555 00:29:41,836 --> 00:29:47,476 Speaker 3: a massive disruptor to home to relationships between parents and children, 556 00:29:47,876 --> 00:29:54,196 Speaker 3: between our abilities to communicate as human beings. It has 557 00:29:54,476 --> 00:30:01,436 Speaker 3: killed invaluable time with doing just brain numbing stuff. I'm 558 00:30:01,476 --> 00:30:04,036 Speaker 3: not saying there's anything wrong with playing a game, but 559 00:30:04,116 --> 00:30:07,636 Speaker 3: I'm saying the amount of hours that we pursue that 560 00:30:07,716 --> 00:30:08,276 Speaker 3: you could. 561 00:30:08,076 --> 00:30:10,996 Speaker 1: Have been excellent at, like a craft or a thing 562 00:30:11,036 --> 00:30:11,956 Speaker 1: you're really gifted to. 563 00:30:13,436 --> 00:30:14,196 Speaker 2: Maybe you don't know. 564 00:30:14,156 --> 00:30:16,396 Speaker 1: Because you haven't tried it, because you're just sitting on 565 00:30:16,436 --> 00:30:18,916 Speaker 1: your phone so we've lost time. 566 00:30:19,196 --> 00:30:25,756 Speaker 3: We've lost the art of discipline in hard work. And 567 00:30:26,676 --> 00:30:28,956 Speaker 3: you know, one of the things that I tried to tell 568 00:30:28,996 --> 00:30:34,356 Speaker 3: my children is like do hard, do hard, and go 569 00:30:34,436 --> 00:30:38,076 Speaker 3: after it. Set a goal and go get it. And 570 00:30:38,156 --> 00:30:41,796 Speaker 3: so I'm thankful for certain things. I can also say this, 571 00:30:41,956 --> 00:30:46,396 Speaker 3: we have exported more evil through technology. I don't know 572 00:30:46,396 --> 00:30:49,676 Speaker 3: how the Lord is gonna I don't fully understand how 573 00:30:49,716 --> 00:30:52,796 Speaker 3: the Lord's going to judge the nations one day, but 574 00:30:52,836 --> 00:30:56,716 Speaker 3: there's going to be a judgment upon this country that 575 00:30:56,796 --> 00:30:59,075 Speaker 3: I love dearly, which I do. I'm so thankful to 576 00:30:59,156 --> 00:31:03,036 Speaker 3: live in the United States, the freedoms that we have, 577 00:31:03,196 --> 00:31:05,716 Speaker 3: but I also know that with that incredible freedom and 578 00:31:05,756 --> 00:31:07,956 Speaker 3: the bounty that is ours and there's also a huge 579 00:31:07,996 --> 00:31:11,315 Speaker 3: accountability that God has given us. And I think that 580 00:31:11,356 --> 00:31:14,236 Speaker 3: we're going to be judged for a lot of the 581 00:31:14,356 --> 00:31:18,875 Speaker 3: evil that we have mass produced and distributed to the world. 582 00:31:19,796 --> 00:31:22,876 Speaker 3: And so I'm just a huge believer in you know 583 00:31:23,076 --> 00:31:25,196 Speaker 3: that coming back to the book, even in terms of 584 00:31:25,236 --> 00:31:28,516 Speaker 3: world impact, of having an eye on what's important to 585 00:31:28,596 --> 00:31:33,076 Speaker 3: God and technology I don't think is important to him. 586 00:31:33,116 --> 00:31:36,155 Speaker 3: How we use it might be, you know that is 587 00:31:36,956 --> 00:31:39,115 Speaker 3: to use it for his glory or to use it 588 00:31:39,156 --> 00:31:42,236 Speaker 3: for our entertainment, and so we have to be on 589 00:31:42,316 --> 00:31:44,716 Speaker 3: guard against that. I think it's the greatest battle that 590 00:31:44,956 --> 00:31:47,516 Speaker 3: parents with young kids. I was kind of because where 591 00:31:47,516 --> 00:31:49,916 Speaker 3: our kids are, they were at the tail end of 592 00:31:50,556 --> 00:31:54,676 Speaker 3: the mass move of you know, five year olds having 593 00:31:54,716 --> 00:31:58,436 Speaker 3: their own cell phone, and so we did things such 594 00:31:58,436 --> 00:32:00,316 Speaker 3: as when ours did get it, they had to turn 595 00:32:00,396 --> 00:32:02,876 Speaker 3: it in every night, and it was limited in terms 596 00:32:02,876 --> 00:32:05,156 Speaker 3: of ours, and we had every kind of protection that 597 00:32:05,236 --> 00:32:09,196 Speaker 3: you could think of. And it's still never fool proof. Ever. Ever, 598 00:32:09,916 --> 00:32:12,076 Speaker 3: I don't care what a parent says and what they think, 599 00:32:12,116 --> 00:32:14,836 Speaker 3: and I can walk through the filter systems that are 600 00:32:14,836 --> 00:32:21,236 Speaker 3: out there. You need to be heavily engaged totally. My 601 00:32:21,356 --> 00:32:24,436 Speaker 3: wife made it a point to know more about technology 602 00:32:24,476 --> 00:32:27,396 Speaker 3: than my kids did till they were twenty one, and 603 00:32:27,436 --> 00:32:29,595 Speaker 3: then say now we've taught it. Now you're on your 604 00:32:29,596 --> 00:32:31,276 Speaker 3: own and you're going to have to learn to balance 605 00:32:31,316 --> 00:32:32,516 Speaker 3: yourself just like we are. 606 00:32:32,676 --> 00:32:35,956 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome, that's a good, it's excellent. As we 607 00:32:36,036 --> 00:32:39,556 Speaker 1: close out, mark, just share from your own life. You know, 608 00:32:39,596 --> 00:32:43,396 Speaker 1: as we're listening, we're like, oh, you know, you serve 609 00:32:43,436 --> 00:32:46,156 Speaker 1: as a mentor figure because you have these older kids. 610 00:32:46,356 --> 00:32:49,196 Speaker 1: You're walking with the Lord. Surely this man has not 611 00:32:49,316 --> 00:32:50,676 Speaker 1: had to rekindle his faith. 612 00:32:50,796 --> 00:32:54,436 Speaker 2: But tell us give us a story of when you 613 00:32:54,716 --> 00:32:56,116 Speaker 2: had to rekindle your own faith. 614 00:32:56,196 --> 00:32:59,355 Speaker 3: Oh, my gonness, one that I actually put in the book. 615 00:33:01,236 --> 00:33:03,076 Speaker 3: I've got lots of them that I could say, because 616 00:33:03,076 --> 00:33:04,796 Speaker 3: I do think that every one of us because of 617 00:33:04,836 --> 00:33:08,276 Speaker 3: either our own sin, our own neglect, or sometimes just 618 00:33:08,316 --> 00:33:10,315 Speaker 3: the pain of this world. You know, we live in 619 00:33:10,316 --> 00:33:13,236 Speaker 3: a fall unbroken world, and we can just look up 620 00:33:13,276 --> 00:33:15,276 Speaker 3: and we didn't do it on purpose. Even you just 621 00:33:15,276 --> 00:33:17,796 Speaker 3: look up and kind of go, that's my faith. It's 622 00:33:18,116 --> 00:33:20,835 Speaker 3: it's not a flame right now. Yeah, I can remember 623 00:33:20,876 --> 00:33:23,756 Speaker 3: a very distinct moment in high school. I was not 624 00:33:23,916 --> 00:33:29,236 Speaker 3: running from the Lord. I just wasn't living a vibrant, 625 00:33:29,396 --> 00:33:33,276 Speaker 3: active faith. It wasn't that I was entrapped in sin 626 00:33:33,396 --> 00:33:36,636 Speaker 3: and I was living this alter ego. You know, I wasn't. 627 00:33:36,796 --> 00:33:39,396 Speaker 2: He just described a lot of our children. Actually I 628 00:33:39,396 --> 00:33:39,956 Speaker 2: think it does. 629 00:33:40,076 --> 00:33:43,075 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was real. I just wasn't. I 630 00:33:43,196 --> 00:33:49,036 Speaker 3: wasn't actively and I wasn't vibrantly communicating and connecting the 631 00:33:49,076 --> 00:33:50,796 Speaker 3: other and I just letting others kind of do their 632 00:33:50,876 --> 00:33:54,196 Speaker 3: own thing. You do you as opposed to, Hey, I 633 00:33:54,276 --> 00:33:57,276 Speaker 3: care about you as you do you. That's a different 634 00:33:57,276 --> 00:33:59,556 Speaker 3: topic and that's where a believer should be. And I 635 00:33:59,716 --> 00:34:02,276 Speaker 3: wasn't that. And I had a dear friend of mine 636 00:34:02,316 --> 00:34:05,636 Speaker 3: that I grew up with, wonderful friend from the time 637 00:34:05,676 --> 00:34:08,756 Speaker 3: we were in preschool, in kindergarten all the way up 638 00:34:08,796 --> 00:34:12,756 Speaker 3: through high school together. And man, he started running down 639 00:34:12,796 --> 00:34:17,196 Speaker 3: a whole different track with the wrong people. And I 640 00:34:17,196 --> 00:34:19,756 Speaker 3: could see it and I knew it, and I just 641 00:34:19,796 --> 00:34:25,356 Speaker 3: stayed quiet. And that dear friend of mine uh started 642 00:34:25,436 --> 00:34:31,596 Speaker 3: drinking heavily and he uh drove a car under the 643 00:34:31,636 --> 00:34:36,476 Speaker 3: influence and died. And it was a horrible moment. And 644 00:34:36,796 --> 00:34:39,756 Speaker 3: you know, the entire class was at the funeral. And 645 00:34:40,516 --> 00:34:43,076 Speaker 3: like a lot of tragedies in life, right, there's a 646 00:34:43,276 --> 00:34:47,116 Speaker 3: there's an immediate kind of little spiritual revival. And it's 647 00:34:47,196 --> 00:34:49,836 Speaker 3: that post nine to eleven moment, Right, nobody went back 648 00:34:49,876 --> 00:34:53,276 Speaker 3: to church. Yeah, God, God is needed in the moments 649 00:34:53,316 --> 00:34:55,956 Speaker 3: of the crisis, and then and then we walk away 650 00:34:55,996 --> 00:34:59,556 Speaker 3: from him when things get back to normal my air 651 00:34:59,636 --> 00:35:04,636 Speaker 3: quotes here. And with my friend, I really wrestled with 652 00:35:04,756 --> 00:35:08,276 Speaker 3: that because I had had some proddings of the Lord 653 00:35:08,356 --> 00:35:12,436 Speaker 3: to go talk with him. And it's not that it 654 00:35:12,516 --> 00:35:15,676 Speaker 3: was in my power or ability. I may have said 655 00:35:15,716 --> 00:35:17,796 Speaker 3: something and it may have gone in one hour and 656 00:35:17,836 --> 00:35:21,596 Speaker 3: out the other, you know that. But it certainly was 657 00:35:21,756 --> 00:35:24,956 Speaker 3: used by the Lord in my life to say, hey, 658 00:35:25,076 --> 00:35:30,076 Speaker 3: you are your brother's keeper. Care your faith must be 659 00:35:30,236 --> 00:35:35,036 Speaker 3: alive and vibrant. And so it was a spiritual awakening 660 00:35:35,156 --> 00:35:39,276 Speaker 3: in my own walk of faith, not to salvation. I 661 00:35:39,356 --> 00:35:41,916 Speaker 3: was clearly a believer, but the Lord used it to 662 00:35:41,956 --> 00:35:43,876 Speaker 3: wake me up. And what I do know is that 663 00:35:43,956 --> 00:35:46,476 Speaker 3: all of us have these stories in our lives, some 664 00:35:46,596 --> 00:35:49,516 Speaker 3: that are painful, some that are maybe not as painful. 665 00:35:49,516 --> 00:35:53,676 Speaker 3: But the Lord uses these moments to jar us and says, hey, 666 00:35:54,276 --> 00:35:56,516 Speaker 3: your fire of faith is not what it should be. 667 00:35:56,836 --> 00:35:58,796 Speaker 3: And in many ways, that's what this book is about. 668 00:35:58,876 --> 00:36:00,876 Speaker 3: It's to try to spur on the hearts. It's not 669 00:36:00,956 --> 00:36:04,076 Speaker 3: a to do list, do these magic steps and everything's 670 00:36:04,156 --> 00:36:06,596 Speaker 3: going to be perfect. Christian life is not easy. It's 671 00:36:06,636 --> 00:36:09,916 Speaker 3: simply worth it. It's just worth it. It's not easy, 672 00:36:10,316 --> 00:36:13,796 Speaker 3: and so it's not an easy book, but it's saying 673 00:36:13,996 --> 00:36:17,116 Speaker 3: if we chase after these six essentials, I think the 674 00:36:17,156 --> 00:36:19,315 Speaker 3: Lord will use them in our life as long as 675 00:36:19,316 --> 00:36:22,076 Speaker 3: we have a soft heart before the Lord. We walk 676 00:36:22,276 --> 00:36:25,396 Speaker 3: through these things and remember who we are and what 677 00:36:25,476 --> 00:36:27,636 Speaker 3: God has said to us, then all of a sudden 678 00:36:27,676 --> 00:36:31,596 Speaker 3: we'll look up and it won't be coals with ashes. 679 00:36:32,036 --> 00:36:34,556 Speaker 3: There'll be a flame. And then our job is to 680 00:36:34,636 --> 00:36:37,156 Speaker 3: keep stoking it for the glory of God and for 681 00:36:37,276 --> 00:36:40,636 Speaker 3: God's use in the midst of this dark world we man, and. 682 00:36:40,676 --> 00:36:43,036 Speaker 1: For us to do it, and our kids and our kids' 683 00:36:43,076 --> 00:36:46,196 Speaker 1: kids and our kids kids kids to keep gathering around 684 00:36:46,196 --> 00:36:49,796 Speaker 1: that same fire. Doctor Yarbro, Thank you so much. The 685 00:36:49,836 --> 00:36:54,356 Speaker 1: book is The Rekindled Heart, Six Essentials for Reviving your Faith. 686 00:36:54,756 --> 00:36:56,796 Speaker 2: Mark. How do people find out more about you and 687 00:36:57,316 --> 00:36:57,716 Speaker 2: the book? 688 00:36:58,036 --> 00:37:01,076 Speaker 3: Well, they can always go to DTS dot edu and 689 00:37:01,236 --> 00:37:03,436 Speaker 3: look up all my stuff there, but just google me. 690 00:37:03,916 --> 00:37:06,276 Speaker 3: I hate saying that, but I've got all the sermons 691 00:37:06,356 --> 00:37:07,996 Speaker 3: and things out. I've got a bunch of books that 692 00:37:08,036 --> 00:37:10,836 Speaker 3: are out that'll show up everywhere on Amazon. But if 693 00:37:10,836 --> 00:37:13,476 Speaker 3: you just hope in The Rekindled Heart, Mark Marbro, it'll 694 00:37:13,476 --> 00:37:17,276 Speaker 3: show up. And my prayer is that somehow, someway God 695 00:37:17,316 --> 00:37:20,436 Speaker 3: will use this to get fire going again, or to 696 00:37:20,596 --> 00:37:22,556 Speaker 3: keep it going in the life of another. 697 00:37:22,916 --> 00:37:25,116 Speaker 2: Amen. Thank you so much, Mark, Lord bless you. 698 00:37:26,876 --> 00:37:30,236 Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed today's conversation. I'd love to keep 699 00:37:30,236 --> 00:37:33,916 Speaker 1: in touch beyond this podcast. Click subscribe in the show 700 00:37:33,956 --> 00:37:36,516 Speaker 1: notes and I will give you my latest email to 701 00:37:36,596 --> 00:37:39,876 Speaker 1: keep up on what's happening with technology and kids. 702 00:37:40,356 --> 00:37:43,116 Speaker 2: And maybe you like reading or listening to books. 703 00:37:43,156 --> 00:37:44,316 Speaker 3: I have a lot of books. 704 00:37:44,396 --> 00:37:47,956 Speaker 1: You could start with The Big Three, Making Marriage Easier, 705 00:37:48,516 --> 00:37:52,316 Speaker 1: Parents Rising, or Screen Kids. A big thank you to 706 00:37:52,396 --> 00:37:54,876 Speaker 1: the team at Life Audio for their partnership with the 707 00:37:54,916 --> 00:37:58,876 Speaker 1: Happy Home podcast. 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