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Speaker 1: Basis and welcome to Inside Out with Courtney. It's a

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Speaker 1: podcast that helps thousands of women all around the globe

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Speaker 1: just like you, growing christ character, calling, career, and community.

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Speaker 1: Join me, along with occasional guests, as we talk about

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Speaker 1: biblical truths, overcoming issues of life as Christian women, while

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Speaker 1: also being encouraged and equipped where every good work as

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Speaker 1: we await the return of Jesus Christ. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Courtney Rashark, and after a quick commercial break, we'll get

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Speaker 1: ready to start growing from the inside out. Well, hello

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Speaker 1: there and welcome. I am so so glad that you

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Speaker 1: are going to be joining me for another talk today

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Speaker 1: I have with me Kayla McKay.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Kayla, how are you Courtney? I'm so happy to

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Speaker 2: finally be here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, now I follow you online on Instagram and

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Speaker 1: I've actually recently found your YouTube channel and your YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel is His Word, My Walk. You also have a

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Speaker 1: podcast as well, so anything else you want to share,

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Speaker 1: that's what the women that are listening and watching you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just so grateful God has like moved right. God

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Speaker 2: has seasons and moves and steps, And what started as

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Speaker 2: an audio podcast three years ago is now YouTube and

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Speaker 2: I'm reading the Bible almost every day with people from

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Speaker 2: twenty two different countries right now, and it's just like,

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Speaker 2: I just you know, we'll get into this with waiting seasons,

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Speaker 2: but God is faithful even when we can't see him moving.

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Speaker 2: And I just like, I'm so encouraged to be able

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Speaker 2: to see in my own life, and I really hope

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Speaker 2: that that's an encouragement to so many others too.

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Speaker 1: I believe it will be. I know one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: it will be. I think this is going to be

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Speaker 1: a refreshing conversation. You have been in waiting seasons before

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Speaker 1: you Like you said when we were talking a little

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Speaker 1: bit before this, is that we're always going to be

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Speaker 1: waiting for something, right, And I think that's just Kingdom kids, right.

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Speaker 1: We get something and then we want something else. It's

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Speaker 1: just like kids, right, Just like our kiddos, always waiting

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Speaker 1: and wanting. Once today we're going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: how to walk through a waiting season. Well, some of

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Speaker 1: you may be waiting on God for your purpose. You

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Speaker 1: may be waiting on a mate. Maybe you're not married

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Speaker 1: yet and you want to get married, and so you've

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Speaker 1: been waiting a while. Maybe you're waiting on a healing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're waiting on breakthrough and you just haven't experienced

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Speaker 1: that yet. And so wherever you are, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about how to wait well because we know it

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Speaker 1: can be difficult. We know it can be hard, but God, right,

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Speaker 1: but God hears us, he sees us, and he knows

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Speaker 1: who we're waiting for it, and so he's a good

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Speaker 1: good father. All right, So Kayla, let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: dive into this topic. So first of all, how would

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Speaker 1: you define a waiting season? What would you say a

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Speaker 2: Yeah that, let's like let's get into what that really

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Speaker 2: we're small, since we're babies, we understand what waiting means

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Speaker 2: and how we don't like to do it as mothers.

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Speaker 2: Mothers understand that babies don't like to wait to be

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Speaker 2: fed at certain points, right, Like, it's built into us

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Speaker 2: when it comes to waiting, we don't always grow out

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Speaker 2: understand differently. See I'm in the place now, well I'm

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Speaker 2: so this is that's a big waiting season in my life.

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Speaker 2: It's not the only thing I'm waiting on. But I

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Speaker 2: actually believe now that waiting seasons are evidence of our faith,

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Speaker 2: that we should actually always be waiting. The fact that

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Speaker 2: I'm waiting on something means I've heard God, I trust

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Speaker 2: so I had to grow through and mature through that

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Speaker 2: And the prophet said that how long ago? Right, So

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Speaker 1: That's so good, so good. Why would you say waiting

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Speaker 2: Why do you think that, Oh, we are impatient, we

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Speaker 2: If I just study harder, if I work harder, if

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Speaker 2: then that should produce the result, which is what I'm

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Speaker 2: God's timing in my life. And I think that's why

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Speaker 2: it's so hard, because waiting in the world fine, But

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Speaker 2: there's actually there's not a whole lot that we can

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Speaker 2: world we can do things to reach our goals faster.

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Speaker 2: To the things that we're waiting on, we can do

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Speaker 1: So true, so true. The sovereignty of God. That's tough.

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Speaker 1: In time, he does what he wants. That's the good.

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Speaker 1: God is God, let him be And let me tell

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Speaker 1: you something. When he moves, it's going to be so

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Speaker 1: good no matter what the circumstances. We always talk about,

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Speaker 1: even though that is hard, and we say that and

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Speaker 1: we hear that, and we know that, right, But it's

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Speaker 1: going to move in the best way for us. I

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Speaker 1: think another way that I would say, I know it's hard,

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Speaker 1: relying on the word of God, relent, relying on the

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Speaker 1: scriptures and feasting on waiting verses. Like really think about Okay,

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Speaker 1: this video, is if you're waiting on God, then pull

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Speaker 1: up some scriptures, do a Google search on waiting on God,

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Speaker 1: versus and that that relate to that. That's what I

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Speaker 1: your strength, because like you said, you could do all

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Speaker 1: all that's great and wonderful. However, God is sovereign, just

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Speaker 1: like you said he and it's that you know, when we.

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Speaker 2: Look in the scriptures, like the Biblical, when you look

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Speaker 2: that you know it's coming. That's what waiting biblically is.

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Speaker 2: just have that anticipation. So if you're starting to doubt,

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Speaker 2: you got to quiet the enemy in your mind. But

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Speaker 2: know it's coming, right, It's just a matter of time,

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Speaker 2: and it's a matter of His time, not my time.

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Speaker 2: And we can look at people obviously we think Sarah, Abraham, Moses,

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Speaker 2: to if we can, as believers and as brothers and

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Speaker 2: of encouragement and not a I'm now discouraged because they

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Speaker 2: but actually to see that as a testimony of God

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Speaker 1: He does. He does, And it's okay to cry? Can

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Speaker 1: I hear that, and I know that, but it still

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Speaker 1: You know, there's that what if it doesn't right?

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Speaker 2: Then what And like I think, I think God, you

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Speaker 2: I thought my whole purpose was to be a wife

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Speaker 2: everything else that he's working in and moving in right now,

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Speaker 1: But He's got well, all right, We're going to go

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Speaker 1: we're going to cover a little bit more on this topic.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more because the waiting season can be

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Speaker 1: very challenging. It can be hard, but god.

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Speaker 2: Right, he's just he's faithful, and he's strategic, and he's purposeful,

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Speaker 2: and like, those are things we know about it. So

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Speaker 2: he's not not those things, right, and so like one

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Speaker 2: of my biggest waiting seasons that I share is in

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Speaker 2: I'm Canadian and I was waiting on my immigration papers

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Speaker 2: to come through. I was actually stuck. I wasn't allowed

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Speaker 2: eighteen months of my life. I'm talking, kicking, screaming, making

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Speaker 1: Amen, Amen, yes, yes, yes, yes, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for watching, Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, remember that Jesus Christ is coming back soon,

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Speaker 1: so let's be ready from the inside out. I talked

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Speaker 1: to you next time. Bye bye for now.