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Speaker 1: sticks to church and the crowd goes wild. Meanwhile, I

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Speaker 1: a three hundred pound television and tell you the tale

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Speaker 1: of Grandfather Frost, plus a conversation about the dangers and

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Speaker 1: striving for greatness and why we're really happiest when we

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Speaker 1: make our life about other people. Today's episode is not

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Speaker 1: or we are not leaving the first a word from

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Speaker 1: our actual sponsor, Johnny. It's the week of Christmas and

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that. We're here to make this for

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Speaker 1: you guys, because we know you're going to be traveling

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna be with your families. Are on the

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Speaker 1: way to be with your families. Just need an escape,

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Speaker 1: You need to get in, get your game face on.

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Speaker 2: What do you say about the whole like expectation that

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Speaker 1: When they are the kids, though, you're trying to make

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Speaker 2: See Sadie every year for the last like since she's

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Speaker 1: Every year she says, doesn't feel like Christmas this.

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Speaker 2: Year, Like, that's because your viewpoint of what it felt

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Speaker 1: Now the year in reality, you should know, right, it

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, guys, it is still now. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: it's about but here's part of it. Christmas is about

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Speaker 1: like you're trying to make magic for them. That's what

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Speaker 1: That's our show. I think we got what we need.

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Speaker 2: And I've tried to have that talk with her, like

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Speaker 2: And I keep trying to tell her, but it sounds

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, no, no, no, Like the secret to

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Speaker 1: it sounds like fortune cooking. Yeah, golly gee, jimmany cricket.

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's that's what makes you come alive. What are

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Speaker 1: And it was like we were in we borrowed a

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Speaker 2: You know what my wife wants, she wants one of

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Speaker 1: You've told me this and I don't understand it at all.

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Speaker 1: I'll build you a nice frame for the TV you have.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you will, Johnny, It'll still be a Roku.

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Speaker 1: Oh it was good to be here. I felt like

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Speaker 1: such a crest when I came in. I literally, as

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what we are, we're creasters. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, Bethany walked over right before we started. She goes,

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Speaker 1: look at all these creaters which if you don't know

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Speaker 1: what that is, dear listener, that is a person who

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Speaker 1: goes strong Christmas in Eastern Easter, which I don't mean

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Speaker 1: to be that, but I'm in I'm in a church usually,

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Speaker 1: but like I'm gone on a lot of Sundays, so

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Speaker 1: I think the last service I was here really was Easter. No,

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Speaker 1: you're kidding, I'm not kidding. Literally I walked in on

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Speaker 1: Sunday and I was like, weird Johnnyston's Easter. These freaking creased. Well,

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Speaker 1: unless listen, dear listener, unless you are a professional comedian

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Speaker 1: gone on the road every weekend, then we'll allow it. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I love the christ grace, little grace for me. Roy

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Speaker 1: Stone used to always want to say. I can't say

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Speaker 1: exactly as Roy would say, that's where you've been you

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Speaker 1: been since Easter? Then happy Easter? Were you been since Christmas? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: That's just those behind the scenes kind of funny minister

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Speaker 1: h Well, no, I don't know it's but I did.

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Speaker 1: But I you know, I'm preaching at a church on

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Speaker 1: this Sunday. I gotta get my voice back because I

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Speaker 1: do three services. You get my n I'm sure I

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Speaker 1: need your notes due Just take them. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do. You're gonna do great.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna fun Are you doing the lower through the

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Speaker 2: ceiling it podcast listeners, guys.

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Speaker 1: Have a sermon fact bubble wrap something that people gas.

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Speaker 1: I go, I can't remember the objects. I just knew

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to break these, like I couldn't remember

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Speaker 1: the biblical principle. I'm just like, I just thought. I

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Speaker 1: just thought. They're like, that's my time. Just step down

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Speaker 1: and like, all right, let's do a worship song. Get

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Speaker 1: out of here.

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Speaker 2: That would be a funny little sketch, Like just a

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Speaker 2: guy that can't remember the Bible parts.

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Speaker 1: Just made a potato gun for no reason. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: use a potato but he forgot that part. You know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you get launched, but he just forgot and just

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Speaker 1: brought a potato gun to church. Right, guys, anybody, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, anyway, don't bring a potato gun to church. No,

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Speaker 1: they will definitely, that's not right. We don't. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's about that time. It's my segment. It's the quote

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Speaker 1: of the week. Maybe it's not the last one of

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Speaker 1: the year, quote of the but it's getting close. Here.

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Speaker 1: It's my segment they call they talked about that boys. E.

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Speaker 2: Stanley Jones was a missionary to India wrote a bunch

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Speaker 2: of books in the mid twentieth century. But there's really

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Speaker 2: one line from this. I'm gonna read the whole thing,

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Speaker 2: but I want to read their first the one line.

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Speaker 2: I want to emphasize. It's just so perfect. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you could put this up on your wall. We grow

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Speaker 2: small trying to be great. We grow small trying to

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Speaker 2: be great. And the whole quote is but what difference

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Speaker 2: is there in this? And the man who finds himself

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Speaker 2: the price of a new car each year when he

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Speaker 2: does not need it. He says, giving yourself a fine

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Speaker 2: when you get a new car. That hurts right now,

486
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Speaker 2: because we did get a fairly new car. He too,

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Speaker 2: must keep up appearances, must appear great. Or the student

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Speaker 2: who swaggers because he thinks it will make him great

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Speaker 2: in the eyes of his fellows, but it doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: It ends in futility. We grow small trying to be great.

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Speaker 2: We toil in rowing, trying to get to the land

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Speaker 2: of greatness, and end nowhere. Then Jesus comes again. We

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Speaker 2: fear him, for we fear he will ask us to

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Speaker 2: be servant of all in order to be great, and

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Speaker 2: we do not want to serve, we want to be served.

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Speaker 2: But still he comes. Then we let him in. We

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Speaker 2: forget greatness as we bend with him to serve the

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Speaker 2: rest and low. As we bend we rise, the servant

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Speaker 2: of all becomes the greatest of all. We have arrived. Wow,

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Speaker 2: that's so good, so good. From a book called Victoria's Living.

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Speaker 2: But just you know, there's always things I think you

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Speaker 2: and I having interesting. I started to think about, like

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Speaker 2: the weird career paths that we've both sort of fallen

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Speaker 2: into at times, you know, a lot of ups and

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Speaker 2: downs and other things. But you know, there's a book

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Speaker 2: I'm about to start writing that you know all about,

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Speaker 2: and I've had to wrestle, you know, with what I

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Speaker 2: should do or not do with it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm excited to do it.

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Speaker 2: But it does cause me to stop and ponder, like

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Speaker 2: you're looking at your like you're looking at some other person,

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Speaker 2: like you're not looking at yourself. And and kind of

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Speaker 2: like I said about Sadie, like in the end, the

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Speaker 2: things that have brought I guess satisfaction or contentment have

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Speaker 2: never been the things when I was young that I

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Speaker 2: thought would have And I know this sounds maybe it's

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Speaker 2: a big deal to you guys, but there was a

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Speaker 2: time as an author where I was told early on,

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Speaker 2: if you get on one of the big morning shows

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Speaker 2: on national television, that's the thing, Like, that's how.

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Speaker 1: You really make it as an author.

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Speaker 2: And so when we booked a Good Morning America for

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Speaker 2: that not So Black and White book.

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Speaker 1: I mean it really. I mean I was old enough

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Speaker 1: to not be like starry eyed about all of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I knew it was a job.

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Speaker 2: And all those things, but it was fascinating being that

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Speaker 2: age and not the young guy who wanted it, because

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Speaker 2: I was noticing along the way, this.

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Speaker 1: Is nothing like I thought it would be. Uh. It was.

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Speaker 2: Seeing Reggie in New York was more fun, right than

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Speaker 2: doing the actual event, and certainly spending the week in

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Speaker 2: New York with my family was one of the greatest

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Speaker 2: memories of my life. But checking my emails after the

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Speaker 2: thing to see how the book sales did or whatever

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Speaker 2: was a low point of the trip for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because I think when you're worrying about success or greatness,

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Speaker 2: for me, it wasn't greatness at that point.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think hopefully.

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Speaker 2: Impact Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a lot of that's

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Speaker 2: just died in me really painfully over time. I'm glad,

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Speaker 2: you know, but the Lord has just let it be

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Speaker 2: crushed and it hurts. It's hurt really, really badly. But

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Speaker 2: I'm glad he did, you know. I'm sure there's more

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Speaker 2: to die, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it just like you, that's

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Speaker 1: why you're supposed to just you think you just keep

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Speaker 1: making things and then like let let them fall where

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Speaker 1: they may. But you just keep making things. You can't

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Speaker 1: be like this will be the thing that I'll be

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Speaker 1: known for though, Like, just keep making things. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: let the impact be what the impact is. And because

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Speaker 1: it's you know, you never know. I think like Norm McDonald,

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Speaker 1: who's I think is probably one of the best comedians

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Speaker 1: ever to live. He's probably in my Mount Rushmore of comics.

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Speaker 1: He's such a dry comic. But he would talk about

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Speaker 1: how he hated important comedy. Yeah, and I think what

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Speaker 1: he meant. What he meant was because I think comedy

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Speaker 1: is important to us, and comedy can be important, but

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Speaker 1: when you catch it trying to be important, it's very

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Speaker 1: gross and you feel somebody has an agenda. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: the jokes are just this utility. It's a conveyance for

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Speaker 1: their political ideology, or if it's a conveyance for their

564
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Speaker 1: beef that their acts to grind with the world or

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Speaker 1: their therapy. Yeah, is this comedy bit and you're kind

566
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Speaker 1: of just beholden to it. It feels very manipulative and wrong.

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Speaker 1: But I've seen comedy sets where I go that was

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Speaker 1: an important comedy set, but it wasn't because, like I

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Speaker 1: remember being in a show in ninety four, we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: sell Pearl Jam. And then we're at their peak. There

571
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Speaker 1: was a second record so or after ten, so it

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Speaker 1: was like their second record, and we saw them outdoors

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Speaker 1: in Greensboro, North Carolina, and Eddie Vedder starts going on

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Speaker 1: this weird tirade. It was an election year and he

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Speaker 1: starts going on this thing and he goes, there's a

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Speaker 1: place I can see it. It's I'm there and you're there,

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Speaker 1: And he was basically trying to be bonn It was

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Speaker 1: very I can tell where he's going. And then he

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Speaker 1: brought out Gloria Steinhem to speak to the crowd at

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Speaker 1: a rock concert. And when I tell you, they ran

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Speaker 1: for the bathroom. They ran to the bathroom, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the porta potty line got insane, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: this is what happens, dude, I'm sorry, this is not

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Speaker 1: why we're here. I mean, I get you can have

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Speaker 1: an impact this way, but this is the wrong tack.

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Speaker 1: Why not today? And so it was just funny to

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Speaker 1: watch it. But I've been in I've been in show,

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Speaker 1: and I've written jokes where I thought, this is kind

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Speaker 1: of an interesting Sometimes you write a joke and you go,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know I felt this way about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting to watch your your personality evolve

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Speaker 1: when you go, oh, I didn't realize I felt so

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Speaker 1: strongly clearly, I feel strongly about this, or I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have written such a pointed thing. Yeah, sometimes I don't

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Speaker 1: do those jokes because I don't want to come off

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Speaker 1: as like the same thing when you do church stuff

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Speaker 1: where you go like, all right, we're gonna do this

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna get them going. You'll tell your funny

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Speaker 1: story and then you make the turn and that's when

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Speaker 1: we get them or whatever, and you're like, I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with Like, we do have places we want to get

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Speaker 1: people's attention. We want to make an impact, we want

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Speaker 1: to make a persuasive argument for the gospel. But it's

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Speaker 1: like I hate the idea that we're sitting in rooms

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to make the hook and

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Speaker 1: get their email addresses and all the stuff that we

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Speaker 1: It's like that part of it I don't love and

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Speaker 1: I wish that we could wash our hands of that

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Speaker 1: side of it. But part of it, like you said,

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Speaker 1: is like we're trying to be big in some way

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Speaker 1: and we make ourselves smaller by that effort. That effort

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Speaker 1: has to be pure or it's gonna end up the

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Speaker 1: wrong way.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean I think that you end up small.

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Speaker 2: I think it means that you're doing something small. I

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Speaker 2: can feel it in the act of it. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: even things I have to do. Like I'll be honest

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Speaker 2: with you, and if if you're into marketing, thank God

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Speaker 2: for you because I need you on my team because

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Speaker 2: I am not great at it because there's a part

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Speaker 2: of me and I don't. I think it's because I'm

622
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Speaker 2: just wired differently. For I'm trying to find value from

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Speaker 2: this that should not be found and for other people

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Speaker 2: it's just like, oh, we're just getting this message to

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Speaker 2: more people. And so when you're wired in that way

626
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Speaker 2: of everything is somehow tied to my identity.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: What story you tell me, it's kryptonite, man, and I

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Speaker 2: can feel it like you do. You grow small in

630
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Speaker 2: every effort to be great, and so it's really a strange.

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Speaker 2: I had a meeting with an author this week and

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Speaker 2: I was like, look, I'll just remind you what I

633
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Speaker 2: tell everybody I work with. I am a book writer,

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Speaker 2: not a book seller. You got to know the difference.

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Speaker 2: I had to learn the difference. There are times I

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Speaker 2: have to sell books, right, That's not what I got

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Speaker 2: into this for. I thought that would be some big

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Speaker 2: that's the kryptonite for me. And so yes, I'll do

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Speaker 2: what's necessary for the job. But where I'm going to

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Speaker 2: enjoy this or where we're going to find the value

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Speaker 2: in it is going to be regardless of what it sells.

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Speaker 2: I just got a chance to do a book with

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Speaker 2: a friend, you know, and he needed some help on

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Speaker 2: his manuscript deadline. And it's not like a normal deal

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Speaker 2: that I would do. And it's been fun like to

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Speaker 2: to be able to It's a great book. He's he's

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Speaker 2: got great content. I mean, he's so much better than Johnny.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. But like, you know this, like

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Speaker 2: it's like there's a purity to like I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: not trying to go hit a home run or something

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Speaker 2: here with what the book does.

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Speaker 1: I'm shutting at home run homebly with the way that

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Speaker 1: I write. That's what I want to Well, when you

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Speaker 1: have the kind of money John has, you can start

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Speaker 1: taking some of these pro Bowl gigs. So if you

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Speaker 1: have something that you want John's help with, just know

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Speaker 1: that you can send that submission to Johnny at John

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Speaker 1: w John. Let's do my segment. So let's start with

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Speaker 1: Johnny's old jokes. We call it joke about that John

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Speaker 1: a few Christmas themed street jokes for today's episode. Oh John,

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Speaker 1: do you know the difference between the Christmas alphabet and

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Speaker 1: the ordinary alphabet? Yeah, there's no l The Christmas alphabet

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Speaker 1: has no element. Johnny Danny Johnny John Danny had recently

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Speaker 1: passed his driving test and decided to ask his clergyman

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Speaker 1: father if there was any chance of him getting a

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Speaker 1: car for Christmas, which was yet some months away. Okay,

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Speaker 1: say his father, I'll tell you what I'll do if

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Speaker 1: you can get your A level grades up to a's

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Speaker 1: and b's, your Bibles, your Bible, study your Bible, get

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Speaker 1: your haircut. I'll consider the matter very seriously. A couple

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Speaker 1: months go by, Danny goes back to his father, who said,

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Speaker 1: I'm really impressed by your commitment to your studies. Your

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Speaker 1: grades are excellent. The work you've put into your Bible

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Speaker 1: studies very encouraging. However, I have to say I'm very

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Speaker 1: disappointed you haven't yet cut your hair. Danny was a

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Speaker 1: smart young man who had never was never lost for

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Speaker 1: an answer. Look, Dad, in the course of my Bible studies,

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Speaker 1: I've noticed in the irations that Moses, John the Baptist, Sampson,

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Speaker 1: even Jesus had long hair. Yes, I'm aware of that,

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Speaker 1: replied his father. But did you notice they also walked

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Speaker 1: wherever they went? John? It was Christmas. Even a supermarket,

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Speaker 1: a woman was anxiously picking over the last few remaining

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Speaker 1: turkeys in the hope of finding a large one, and desperation,

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Speaker 1: she called over a shop assistant and said, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: to these turkeys getting me bigger? No, he replied, they're

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Speaker 1: all dead. John. Why is Christmas just like any other

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Speaker 1: day of the office because you end up doing all

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Speaker 1: the work and the fat guy in the suit gets

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Speaker 1: all the credit. Hey, overlord, I hope you're listening to

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Speaker 1: Andrew right now. I'm just kidding and John, finally, it

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Speaker 1: was coming up on Christmas and the judge was in

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Speaker 1: a jolly frame of mind. Now, then please tell me

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Speaker 1: what is the charge against you. Well, I was caught

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Speaker 1: doing my Christmas shopping very early, replied the man and

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Speaker 1: the dog. That doesn't seem like in the offense to me.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean by very early? Well, you're on

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Speaker 1: her at the shop not open. Go these Christmas jokes.

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Speaker 1: I hope that puts you in a holly, jolly state

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Speaker 1: of mind. Dear listener, let's close with this week in

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Speaker 1: Christmas History. We call it talk about then Christmas style

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Speaker 1: Christmas style clause. Sorry, I was trying to hear John,

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Speaker 1: did you know that the first fake Christmas trees were

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Speaker 1: made of dyed goose feathers? In late nineteenth century Germany,

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Speaker 1: people began fashioning bright green feather feather branches. Quote ungo,

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Speaker 1: I'm putting air quotes to mimic evergreens and protect local

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Speaker 1: forests from over harvesting. But a bunch of woke. That's

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Speaker 1: why we got to pillage the earth. These people had

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Speaker 1: no idea what it. Meanwhile, the geese are like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what about over foresting us? How about preserving the geese?

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Speaker 1: The result, John was a surprisingly charming, fluffy precursor to

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Speaker 1: today's artificial trees. Can you imagine a fluffy little goose

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Speaker 1: feather tree? You thought tree really would get me down? Hello,

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Speaker 1: it's this thing on. That's our show, Johnny, Johnny calling you, Johnny, John.

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Speaker 1: Holly and mistletoe have ancient pagan roots. Oh tear, they

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Speaker 1: used to ward off evil spirits during winter salt. That's

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Speaker 1: what people believe. They warded off evil. You said it

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Speaker 1: like it was true. Everyone knows. It's odd though that

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Speaker 1: they they've remained though, but it's like they got pervy

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Speaker 1: or like, hey, long world, don't ward off these you

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Speaker 1: know what? A war off of evil spirit? Won't you

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Speaker 1: come give us a kiss? Like it just got a

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Speaker 1: little more crass. They still missletoe is still there, but

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Speaker 1: we're maybe he was a kiss the whole time. That

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Speaker 1: maybe that's what spirit do. We just wrote a Hallmark movie.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think I don't think you can't

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Speaker 2: use Witchcraft in the Hallmark Well here.

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Speaker 1: John, Sanna wasn't always red. He was depicted in blue, green,

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Speaker 1: or purple. You know what made them eventually get read

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Speaker 1: that we know today? What was it? Coca Cola. Coca

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Speaker 1: Cola's popular illustrations swayed public sentiment, and so now we

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Speaker 1: kind of believe that Santa was always red. Nope, used

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Speaker 1: to be purple and green and blue depending on what interesting.

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Speaker 2: Interesting that the color didn't matter as much, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Did you know, John, that jingle bells was the first

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Speaker 1: song played in space? I did not know that. You

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Speaker 1: believe that we've been to or if you believe other

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Speaker 1: people were already doing it in space before we do?

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Speaker 1: We know what songs that the aliens were playing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: be weird if they also had jingle bells, that's a

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Speaker 1: lot of interest to be barb barb, jingle bells, jingle

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they really big parallel inspiration there?

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Speaker 1: Hey when they say bleep blo. Okay, John, here's an

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Speaker 1: interesting one. Alabama was the first state to recognize Christmas.

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Speaker 1: It holds a unique place in holiday history. It was

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Speaker 1: the first US state to officially recognize Christmas back in

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Speaker 1: eighteen thirty six, Alabama declared December twenty fifth a legal holiday,

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Speaker 1: long before many other states had followed suit. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: until eighteen seventy that Christmas had become a federal holiday,

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Speaker 1: but Alabama helped pave the way. Oklahoma was the last

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Speaker 1: US state to make it illegal holiday in nineteen oh seven.

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Speaker 1: Sloma's holding out. I'm really I guess that means it

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Speaker 1: means not recognized it, but recognize it as like a

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Speaker 1: day off work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I don't know, I'm going back a lake.

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Speaker 2: George Washington crossing the Delaware on Christmas Eve, right, so

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Speaker 2: you know they're celebrating he was working, though technically is

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Speaker 2: true he was working hard.

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Speaker 1: Take the day off.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you guys should enjoy your freedom.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to g W. Here's another one John. From sixteen

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Speaker 1: to fifty nine to sixteen eighty one, the Massachusetts Bay Colony,

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Speaker 1: including Boston, prohibited the celebration of Christmas and forcing a

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Speaker 1: five shilling fine for anyone caught feasting or skipping work.

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Speaker 1: They were really like hardcore of like you're lazy, You've

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Speaker 1: become lazy. I think it was because of like the

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00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: excessive consumerism. It said Puritan leaders viewed the holiday as

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Speaker 1: a superstitious pagan tradition lacking scriptural basis, often associated with rowdy,

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Speaker 1: immoral and wasteful revelry. How we just call that Amazon

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Speaker 1: Prime Day. Key. The key details of the band included

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Speaker 1: the law which the General Court enacted called the Penalty

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Speaker 1: for Keeping Christmas on May eleven, sixteen fifty nine. Creative

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Speaker 1: name for that pared to the day a regular work day,

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Speaker 1: so they're like, you need to be at work, the

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Speaker 1: fleet floor jingle bath, the reasons the Puritans aim to

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Speaker 1: prevent disorders quote disorders, drunkenness, and what they deemed pagan

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Speaker 1: influence celebrations. The duration of the law remained in place

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Speaker 1: for twenty two years until sixteen eighty one through the

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Speaker 1: formal legalized ban, though the former legalized band was lifted

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Speaker 1: primarily due to pressure from the English Crown rather than

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Speaker 1: a change in local sentiments. So the people were still like, nne,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't do it. Revelry is not

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Speaker 1: our thing anymore, and so that the Crown was like,

784
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Speaker 1: you know what, we gotta keep your remay have gone

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00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: too far, And that despite the repeal, the social stigma

786
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Speaker 1: against Christmas persisted in New England, and it did not

787
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Speaker 1: become popular or an official holiday in Massachusetts until the

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Speaker 1: mid nineteenth century. These people hung on to their bitterness

789
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Speaker 1: against Christmas. Wow, what's the deal? Message Usetts. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And there is an attitude when you go, I mean

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Speaker 1: I have trying to impugne our Boston listeners. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you, but listen your history doth saith that you

793
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: doth hate. But you better watch out and you better

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Speaker 1: not cry. He knows sees you when you're sleeping. Don John,

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Speaker 1: did you know that fruitcake can actually last a lifetime?

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00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: It might be the most durable dessert on the planet. Literally,

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00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: Thanks to its dense texture, generous dose of sugar, and

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00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: alcohol preserved ingredients, a traditional fruitcake can last for decades.

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Speaker 1: Some families have cakes that are over a century old.

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Speaker 1: You may not want to take a bite of it, though,

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00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: as a caveat. My dad love fruitcakes. Really yeah, it

802
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: was like a thing, man, he'd get on. There's a

803
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: gel and a gumminess to it.

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Speaker 2: It's basically like a bunch of candies all pressed together

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Speaker 2: into a shaken.

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Speaker 1: Together and running over to make a room for more.

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Speaker 1: John jingle Bells jingle Belling bell Your jingle Bells All

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00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: was originally a Thanksgiving song. Okay, come on, think about it.

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Speaker 1: Think about the words. The words do not talk about Christmas.

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00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: So one of the world's most iconic Christmas songs was

811
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Speaker 1: not written for Christmas at all. Jingle Bells originally was

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00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: composed in the eighteen fifties as a Thanksgiving tune celebrating

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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: winter sleigh rides. It's catchy rhythm and joyful imagery caught

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00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: on so quickly that it became a holiday favorite and

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00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: eventually a Christmas classic. But it does not talk about Christmas.

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Speaker 1: It's talking about dashing through the snow, and a lot

817
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: of that stuff happens in November. I'll say, we don't

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00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: get snow, and you need to get out more. You're

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Speaker 1: having these little tender Tennessee Christmases. Laura Snow and Colorado

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00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: to my rooftop will ever see. Thank you Amy Grant

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00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: for that. I don't know if she wrote that song,

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00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: but she definitely made it popular. Tender, tense, what she

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Speaker 1: wants to think of it, Amy Grant, right, it was

824
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Speaker 1: really sweet. Every year. She's a really good singer. That

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00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: was a great Yeah, my mom loved that song. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: John Santa Claus has different names around the world. He

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Speaker 1: may be a universal symbol of Christmas cheer, but he

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Speaker 1: goes by many different names around the world. Do you

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Speaker 1: know some of the names. In Germany, he's known as

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Speaker 1: Chris Kringle, An Italian children of wait Libi Fama Labifana,

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Speaker 1: a kind old woman who delivers gifts on Epiphany. Okay,

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00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: so Labi FANA's the female Santa of sorts over there.

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Speaker 1: In France, festive joy comes from Peay and Noel. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and in Russia, my favorite presents are brought by Desh

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Speaker 1: duca morose. Sounds very harsh. Bolivia we called him, huh,

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Speaker 1: Papa Noel, Papa Noel. Yeah, so that makes that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Taking doing Christmas for the kids in Bolivia was some

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Speaker 1: of the great Were you there for any of those? Yeah? Yeah,

839
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Speaker 1: some of the greatest memories ever. I want to say that. Uh,

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00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: it's not just Douka Maraz is also known as Grandfather Frost, oh,

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00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: which I kind of dig That sounds like a cool character.

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00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: I can't get into, like a little Sunday Morning you know,

843
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: Christmas show around Grandfather Frost. The mythology of Grandfather Frost

844
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Speaker 1: and his backstore, the universe of Grandfather Frost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it feels as if like in the end

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00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: there's going to be some sort of revolution or something.

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00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: And the workers big fur hat. Yeah it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got the means of production are very important Christmas.

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00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: Somehow it figures in we've got to seize the means

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00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: of production anyway, our apologistic grandfather Frost, and we must

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00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: stop the oligarchy. Okay, okay. Ebenezer Scrooge's famous line John

852
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: almost never existed before settling on the iconic by Charles

853
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: Dickens originally wrote Scrooge's signature dismissal as by Christmas. Thankfully,

854
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: Dickens revisited giving one of literature's most quotable grumpy gripes

855
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: as a phrase that's become synonymous with holiday crankiness. By

856
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: Christmas is not nearly I said, baha bug this week

857
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: to somebody. Yeah, it's one of those feels good. Did

858
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: you did it ironically? You're not really a total judgment, yeah, John.

859
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 1: Finally for our Christmas history, tensil was once banned. Yeah,

860
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: that's right. From a shiny, colorful tensil is undoubtedly one

861
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: of the quintessential Christmas decoration wasn't always this way. Tensil

862
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: arrived on the scene in Germany in the sixteen hundred,

863
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: where it was made from real silverst forward a few

864
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: hundred years, the decoration became banned in the US because

865
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: it contained lead. Today, tensil is made from safer materials.

866
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: Is my favorite line. Safer materials like plastic and aluminum,

867
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: so you can string it up without concern. Yea, we

868
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: say that with microplastics in our streams.

869
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 2: We're basically like, you can go down there's coral reefs

870
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: that are now like covered in plastic.

871
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: But we are a tinsil. Yeah, we we are the

872
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: kind of flashlight down my throat. You'd be like, oh,

873
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: look at that. Oh this sounded like a sermon. Guys,

874
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: we are the tinsil. I mean, just let your light shine.

875
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: You know, you're not the source of the light, but

876
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: it's reflecting off of you. We'll delivering, if you will,

877
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: for the world to see. Sure, you're poisoned by the

878
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: ways of this world. Sure lifespans may be negatively affected,

879
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: but hey, you know, but for that brief moment, we

880
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: will glow none like a broken glowstick. And then that's

881
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: when somebody would get up and start playing like three

882
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: chords on the keyboard behind you. Did you hear him Sunday?

883
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: So I was playing keys, Yeah, and you know I

884
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: have the I call it ultra music keys. You just

885
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: rotate between four chords. But you're doing it creatively, right,

886
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: you know, And and really one of my favorite things

887
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: to do. Sure, you know, I just don't get to

888
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: do it very much anymore. Well, sometimes if you do

889
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: it too well, he gets the speaker going, oh.

890
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: And he's getting energy from it. He thinks like we

891
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: got to keep it. He's deriving. He actually said, he goes,

892
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to go and tell the

893
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: story just I mean, John, the music already sounds like

894
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: it's he told an extra story. As he was into

895
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: the story, I could tell he was like, shouldn't have

896
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: done this? This story is one story too many. It's

897
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: too late, you're into the story.

898
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: It felt responsible, Yeah, a little bit like I let him, hey,

899
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 2: come on.

900
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: Pastor this emotional manipulation that you see, it's so prevalent

901
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 1: a minor right now and gear moving to the four

902
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: and then walking on down a lot of people think

903
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: it's the tinsel of the liturgy. They do. They happened,

904
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: once banned, but now accepted and safe thriving. Yeah. Well, anyway,

905
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: that was a very educational Christmas. We learned something, we

906
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: celebrated together. Yeah, we bummed them out a little bit,

907
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: probably with some of our Yeah, there's a lot of

908
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: we're like, look, it is what it is. Just go

909
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: be with your family. Yeah, sorry about that. This is

910
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: us in our forties, like we can't. I'm fifty one. Sorry,

911
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: this is me and my forties and Johnny, you wanted

912
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: me a whole other decade. I'm old. I'm trying. Listen.

913
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: You're younger than me, though, old as old as you feel. Listen,

914
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: if the Christmas spirit lives in us, are we ever

915
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: really old? I mean, Sam is like fifteen hundred years old? Sorry,

916
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Papa Noel, I think you mean what douche Camar? Grandfather Frost?

917
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: Grand I want my grandkids to call me that grandfather Frost. Yeah,

918
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: you gotta get a little You gotta let some of

919
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: this white come in again like that just for men.

920
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: Go you gotta let it come on in. Grandfather. I

921
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: rule with an iron fist, is what it sounds like.

922
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: And everyone knows me. I don't do that. I rule

923
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: with like a plastic fist. Safer it is safer. Real silver.

924
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was interesting to me. Was silver just

925
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: so ubiquitous on trees. Well, and they had candles on

926
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: the end.

927
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: They said that they did it, but originally because candles

928
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: on the end of the limbs, it gave like a shimp,

929
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: something for the light to shimmer off and bounce off. Guys,

930
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: it itself Catch five.

931
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: I try real hard, and like Advent messages, not to

932
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: incorporate so much of the modern Christmas thing, because I

933
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: do recognize it's not at all the same.

934
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: But I did it a little bit Sunday.

935
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 2: The only thing I'll do is talk about unwrapping the gift,

936
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: you know, realizing I'm not sure gifts were ever.

937
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they were wrapped in ancient cultures. I'm

938
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: not sure, but they just roll them out. Here you go,

939
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: there's your bread. But you know it, well, it was

940
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: perfect for the like I used the Christmas vacation where

941
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: he brings in the gift for his boss. All shaped

942
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: the same, the ultimate, but you can't tell what Jesus

943
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: really was. The God of the Old Testament is love.

944
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: You can't really tell, you can only tell the shape

945
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: and so you know, then Jesus removes the wrapping. But

946
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: is it am I compromising by bringing in a modern

947
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: Christmas application to one?

948
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: Okay? I think this is the proper form to tell

949
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: you you are compromising. It's about time someone called water

950
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: down the gospel and you are a heretan, you know.

951
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: I tell my wife of the day is like, I

952
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: know some people just want to be heard. I want

953
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: to be fixed. Like when I complain or tell you

954
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: a problem, I want to be corrected. I want you

955
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: to tell me what I should do differently for me

956
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: to coach you up.

957
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, tell me something I should be doing differently,

958
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 2: not you know you right now necessarily.

959
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: Okay, made let me open this file on my computer,

960
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: coach populating.

961
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: Hold on, let's go take a second. It's pulling from

962
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: the cloud. That's great. Well, Merry Christmas to everybody. Merry Christmas, Johnny.

963
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 2: I know you're heading east and I'm heading a little

964
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: east and.

965
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: Going to Tokyo Knoxville. Yeah, but yes, going to the south.

966
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: They call it that they and no one's It won't

967
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: stick no matter how much I try. No, But I'm

968
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: excited to see some family and then going to Florida

969
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: for a few days. Oh fun, and where it's warm

970
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: and I'll never return because it's warm, there's nice. It's

971
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: chilly here and I don't like it.

972
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: Well, Hey, guys should check out Talk About That podcast

973
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 2: dot com.

974
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,480
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975
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,680
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976
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: note Hello at talk about That podcast dot com. That's

977
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: the email to send it to go to my website,

978
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: JOHNNYW dot com. We're announcing tour dates every week. New

979
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: tour dates pop up, and we're adding to my forty

980
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: eight city tour with Awakening events, and that's going to

981
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: be coming. I guarantee you to a major city near you.

982
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: Please don't make excuses. We need I need these rooms

983
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: to be full. Okay, they're taking a big chance on me.

984
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: I got a bus. Now we got to do something. Yeah,

985
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: it's time to stop thinking about yourselves. You know, we

986
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: talked about the whole episode. Christmas is about buying tickets

987
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: to my show for people that you love.

988
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: Look, help Johnny grow small as he tries to be great. Wait,

989
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: you will grow great as you keep Johnny from being small.

990
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's something, but no come to see

991
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: a show and it's getting a lot of fun. I

992
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: can't wait, Johnny. I'll be there for every single one

993
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, probably too much. That's gonna be too much,

994
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: so I don't have enough for hotel rooms for that.

995
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: Well, guys, thanks for the Tommy gave us this week. We

996
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: do wish you Merry Christmas. Let's do it again next

997
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: week You're on.

998
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: Talk about that