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The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.960 Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:07.000 precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.559 All right, welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.040 Hour two is underway, and it is the hour that 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.040 everybody's been waiting for the results of our twenty twenty 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.000 five turning. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.839 Point Action Amfest draw pole. 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.800 So this is something we do at every Amfest, and 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.560 we've got the we've got a major publication that's going 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.479 to go live with it in just a second as well. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:34.040 And here to unpack what we found from this straw 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.360 pole is the one and only Rich Bars Big Data 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.120 Pole who conducted it on our behalf. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:40.600 Rich welcome back to the show. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.240 Thanks for having me as always. 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.840 Yeah, well let's let's start. 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:49.040 Let's start with your your reaction, your experience at Amfest. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.120 You were there, you you and Mark Mitchell led a 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.040 breakout just you know, thirty thousand foot view. What was 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.640 it like in there and maybe what what's the disconnect 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.040 between maybe what some people are saying. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.040 Line versus what you experienced in person. 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:06.480 Well, first visually and I know I actually noticed to 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.280 be a fact, but visually this looked like the biggest 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.880 Amfest ever and you could see it if you've been 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.600 to an Amfest before, this one was just as a 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.320 matter of attendance and everything that was going on was huge. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:24.280 It was huge. So congratulations on that. Because we're talking 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.639 about a massive attendance folks. And secondly, you know, the 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.280 biggest thing that'll stand out is, you know, the media 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.640 narrative and the infighting that they projected was going on 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.480 over there, and we'll see this with the results of 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:41.080 the Straw Pole. Yeah, people debate, and that's what turning 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:46.119 point has always been about. But people there, people in attendance, right, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.600 and and the folks that were talking and interacting with 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.519 people agree on so much more. I mean, that's what 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.400 it comes to this, that's the biggest disconnect that the 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.960 media as usual always projects. There was a lot more 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.119 agreement than there was disagreement. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.600 Yeah, and you so some top level marks that you 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.120 were just telling me about is so this was the 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:12.639 youngest straw Pole result based on just who took the poll, right, 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.160 it was. It skewed the youngest of any that we've 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.400 ever had, because you know, even we struggle sometimes rich 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.440 with getting the students to take the darn straw Pole, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.320 this time we got lots lots Just the average age 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.240 of who took the poll was younger. So it's actually 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.680 going to give us a more interesting insight in some 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:33.560 ways about where younger Americans, younger conservative voters younger, younger 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.840 base voters where their heads are at right now. And 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.680 it was also the most response responses that we've ever 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.000 gotten at a straw pole. And what's which remarkable of 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.760 remarkable about that, Rich, is that you know, we intentionally 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.760 delayed this until we sent it out overnight after day 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.880 three and into day four. We wanted people to have 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.960 this full experience before we asked them these questions. So 0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:00.200 the response rate on a relatively short term was pretty remarkable. Well, 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.920 what just explain that from a polster's perspective, Rich, Well. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.440 Straw poles can be a bit of a polster's nightmare, 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.720 right because as the polster, you like, I want to 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.240 start early, I want to get this going, but you 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.120 also want people to have the experience before they answer 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.520 some of these questions. And honestly, it'll become very evident 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.560 when we show people some of the questions, right why 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.960 we want people to hear things first, which can be 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.159 challenging because for people who are taking it and the polster, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:32.200 because you are now limiting yourself on the reaction time, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.720 so we expect a certain percentage and just from experience, 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.080 we know what that is. This blew up and you 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:40.560 said it, and I was going to say it if 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.799 you didn't. This is the biggest America Fest st Straw 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.760 Pole ever. It's a very large sample, which means, folks, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:53.479 it's representative, it's statistically significant. So I was over the moon, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.800 you know, I mean as a polster, I was over 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.440 the moon when I you know, one minute you're logging in, 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.880 you're seeing the responses come in. The minute you see 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.120 an explosion. So I think too. It also tells you 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.039 that the respondents Andrew also, we're kind of hanging back 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.840 and saying, let me, you know, let me open it up. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.640 I'll take what I think I can. We always give 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.600 people a little bit of time to complete it, and 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.960 then once they had the experience, they felt it was 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.719 sufficient for them. They they all filled it out almost 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.240 at once. On that last day a huge amount came in, 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.960 which was great for us, It really was. It was great. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.680 So, you know, I'm toying with everybody wants to know 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.400 the the who do we want as our twenty twenty 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:35.800 eight GOP nominee. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:37.480 I don't think. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.680 Anybody's you know, I'm toying with delaying it, but I 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.520 think we just have to, you know, I think we 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.320 just have to review the reveal here, Rich, what is 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.080 not surprising is who won, but what is surprising is 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:55.600 by what margin. So you know, drum roll please, studio. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.800 Let's go ahead and throw up image one sixty six. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.800 Who does the am Fest attendees? Who do they want? 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.560 As their twenty twenty eight GOP to twenty eight And 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.200 that big old bar right at the top is, of 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:09.279 course jd. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:10.000 Vance. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:14.560 The next closest was Marco Rubio, the great Secretary of 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.279 State in the Trump administration. 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.119 Rich, break this down. 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:23.719 Jd Vance is by is running away with the who 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.440 do we want as the twenty twenty eight GOP nominee. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.760 Explained the significance of that of that graph. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.960 And the consistency of him pulling at that level. I 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.720 don't think he ever pulled below seventy five percent, folks. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.520 That's well over a super majority. And I will tell 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.360 you this, Like we said, just a moment ago, there 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.160 were people who were waiting back, waiting to see and 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.320 when the Vice president gave his speech, it just went 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.960 to that level. Never looked back. I mean, it was 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.560 you know, some people you know, sitting back. I can't 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.719 wait to see what the vice president has to say. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.960 This has never happened, Andrew, this is never I've done 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.080 a lot of straw polls at a lot of different events, 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.920 We've done a lot of amfest ones. Right, this has 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.040 never happened. There has never been such widespread agreement over 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.000 because what are they really telling you when they're picking 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.240 who they want for the future nominee? Right, what is 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.520 the base? What is the turning point? Family telling you 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.600 this is the direction we want to go in the future. 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.840 This is what we want for the future of the movement, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.120 for the future of the party. And there are you know, 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.560 the media wanted to talk about all of the different 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:34.760 factions in the in the coalition. Right, this is near. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:41.360 You know, it's nearly unanimous, It's overwhelming. And we asked 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.160 a lot of other questions. It doesn't matter what the 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.800 answers for different demographic groups, how one favored other something 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.080 over the other. It doesn't matter when it comes to 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.040 this question, who do you want for your nominee? Everybody 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.520 is in agreement. There's not a single group that's disconnected 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.520 or has a different opinion. You know, always this is statistics. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.400 You're always going to have marginal support for something over another. Right, 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.600 I mean That's just the way it works. This is about, 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.760 as you know, uniformity as you get close to your 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:10.400 informative as. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.560 You get so just so people have the exact numbers, 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.520 it's eighty four point two percent chose jd Vance, YEP 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.640 four point eight percent, so just under five percent chose 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:24.040 Marco Rubio, two point nine percent chose Ron DeSantis, one 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:28.200 point eight percent chose Don Junior, point three percent chose 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.440 Ted Cruz, and point four percent chose Younkin. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.839 I'm not sure why the orders got swipped. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:38.520 Swapped there, but so that is basically the field you 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.760 know undecided was it two point five percent and that 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.040 we had three point one percent ride ins, right, So 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:46.760 I don't know if there was anybody worth mentioning in 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.240 the right in section rich, but that that is, you know, 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.679 the field that people most predict for twenty twenty eight. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:58.600 There is something worth worth mentioning, all right, and that 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:04.400 is there is there are more than a few responses 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.559 for Donald J. Trump for a third term. Right, But again, 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:09.920 I mean you're gonna get that some and that just 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.360 shows you how much the president is loved right by 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:16.800 the base. But there's outside of that, you know, there's 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.400 a representation to libertarian wing. You get a few for 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.360 Thomas Massey and stuff like that, but it's not you know, 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:26.040 you can see the percentage guys collectively, what that comes to. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.880 It's still not that much. I mean, this poll, the 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.680 results of this poll are very clear. We don't get 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.800 results like this. It just doesn't happen. 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.800 Hey, Rich, have a question in the history of a 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.440 turning point straw pole that you've conducted, have we ever 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.360 seen a question like this get you know, have a 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.720 front lawn runner with this much margin of victory. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.679 Nope, That's what I was just about to say. Especially, 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.680 I mean, could you imagine this early We did turning 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.160 point straw poles going into twenty four even and it 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.559 was a robust field. There's some pretty you know, significant 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.400 debate between who do we want Ron destand this do 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.079 we want President Trump? President Trump was always winning that, 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:11.040 uh and winning it overwhelmingly. 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So, Blake, 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.200 I promised you that you were going. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.280 To get to do the big reveal. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.679 It is about to be about ready to be thrown up, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.520 so I don't know, you want to take it away, Blake. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.120 Yeah, yeah, it'll be ready by the time I get 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:53.400 to it. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.679 We were we actually ready shopping what questions to put 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.200 into the straw pole. We just did it the night 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.400 I think Saturday night. We were talking I can out 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.640 what's to put into it, and obviously we had the stuff. 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:09.400 We've had debates over the past year about America's relationship 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.520 with Israel, how it relates to stuff in the Middle East. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.560 We had people bring it up on stage. 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.320 It was a recurring theme in our member exclusive interviews, 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.800 so we just said throw in to the attendees, what 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.800 best describes what your view of Israel as do you 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.600 view them as our number one ally as just one 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.720 ally of many, or do you think they're not an 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:31.640 American ally, which some prominent figures have said. And do 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.120 we have that result ready to throw up? Yeah, let's 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.400 throw up one seventy eight. And I think the result 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.880 was pretty refreshing. You got you said. Thirty three percent 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.800 said it was a top our top ally, fifty three 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.760 percent went for one of many, and thirteen percent said 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:47.280 not an ally, which I think you mentioned. It is 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.400 the youngest group we've had at Amfest, and I think 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.960 it does put into perspective. I think one ally of 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.880 many it gets an outright majority. I think that would 0:12:55.880 --> 0:13:01.599 probably describe the position Charlie was in the over the 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.240 last couple of years that they are a friendly country, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.880 they are a country we care about, but they're not 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:11.840 necessarily this monomaniacal focus that we must be fixated on 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.040 to the exclusion of other potential allies. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.160 And I think this also shows only thirteen percent say. 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.920 Not an ally that they're hot, you know, basically at 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.760 best in neutral or perhaps even a hostile country to us. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:24.920 This is a take you here, a lot online, It's 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.520 a take you here a lot on X, It's a 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.600 take some influencers really push. But I don't think it's 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.800 really it's taking over the GOP in the way that 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.839 a lot of critics have tried to argue. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.560 Yeah so so Rich. 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.720 If you go online, you would be entirely surprised by 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:46.600 the fact that it within you know, a statistically significant 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.480 sample of the youngest and the youngest sample set that 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.080 we've ever had from an amphis strapol that thirteen point 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:54.880 three percent like you, if you went online, you would 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:55.480 think it would be. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:56.920 Like fifty to fifty. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.480 What do you make of this pole result and what's 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.199 your message to the GOP with this in mind? 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.800 You know, neither Laur or I were surprised by this, 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.160 and we were thinking and comparing it to what we 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.160 see and that it really has been a trend with 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.920 the general public, not just among you know, the base 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.080 of the Republican Party. Look, the Internet is real, but 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:21.000 it doesn't necessarily mean that it's really representative, right, I mean, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.120 that's the difference. People have to keep reminding themselves when 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.160 they see these narrative wars and these pushes online. This 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.720 is basically representative too of what we heard walking around 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.120 and talking to people. I mean, Andrew and same thing 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:35.880 with winning the mid terms. By the way, that was 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.240 the number one question I got walking around talking with 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.360 different people. They would say, oh, this is you know, 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.800 great and I understand the debate, but we really, you know, 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.520 what can we do to win? We want to win. 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.400 That was overwhelming, well, just walking around the place, so 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.960 a lot of this didn't surprise me. I do think though, 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:53.760 that it is a bit of a wake up call 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.360 to you know, the older guard of the GOP who 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:02.840 are used to they've become there's an expectation, you know 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.640 that Israel will get a always you know, like a 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.040 bit of a privileged or special place in the conversation, 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:16.160 and that's not where the future really sees our you know, 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.560 uh when it comes to you know, where we prioritize 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.080 our public, our foreign policy. That's just not the future 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:27.000 that people see, especially among younger people. So not something 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:28.480 they'll have to come to grip with it. But it 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:33.320 doesn't mean there's this outward hatred or anti Semitism. It's 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.760 just like, hey, look, we have been put last for 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.120 a very long time. We just want to be put first, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:42.600 and we don't really think that, you know, questioning the 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:47.080 old Orthodoxy or the right is a bad thing, and 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.920 I'm not necessarily sure it is myself, Andrew, you know, 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:50.280 to be. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.800 Honest, No, no, totally, I share some of that. I 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.760 think you you articulated it well. And in our one Rich, 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.560 I said, you know what's interesting about Amfest and turning 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:04.920 point these conferences, we're looking to define the dominant core 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.320 of a winning coalition, right right, the dominant center cut 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.200 and so you're gonna get these really loud voices that 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:12.640 want us to be anti Asrie. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:13.920 You're gonna get these really loud. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.040 Voices that want us to, you know, essentially say that 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.160 Israel is the most important topic. You know that there is, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.880 because it's a proxy war for other things whatever. 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So we've already kind 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:23.159 of mentioned what are the most important topics for people. 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.440 Blake kind of already did the big reveal one sixty five. 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.640 The winning the midterms is the most important by far. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.880 Let's go ahead and show that image one sixty five. 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.280 All right, see how much it stands out. It's like, 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.639 you know, it's a sore thumb right there. It is 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.399 by far and away the number one topic. And to 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.800 Blake's point, it kind of had me wishing we wouldn't 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.960 have have done that, just so we could have seen 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:49.560 what the other ones. But what we see behind it 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.400 are voter integrity, voter idea at nine point three percent, 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.920 the affordability crisis, which I'm not surprised at at eight 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:01.200 point one percent, Mass deportations five point three percent, accountability 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.200 for deep state law fair at four point two percent, 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.560 rounding out the top five issues. 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:08.639 In the midterm. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.760 Yeah, go ahead, Blake that ending the war in Ukraine 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.080 dead last. I think, what is that point four percent? 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:16.800 It's well under one percent. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.879 And yeah, I noticed that too. Ending the war in 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.840 Ukraine is the last. Is the last, I think, because 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:26.720 we're not sending the money like we used to be. 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:28.880 I mean, that's what really I think brought it home 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:30.600 for people, is it felt like we're in these we're 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.359 running these huge deficits, We've got this huge tax burden, 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.480 the economy sucks, and we're spending all our money on 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.560 a war, you know, abroad to fight Putin. 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.040 And that's what made it. Yeah, go ahead, Rich. 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.080 Well, I was just gonna say, I think it's indicative 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.760 of two things. One is how many problems people think 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.199 that we have. Right that has to get before that, 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.879 because I don't think there's much support out there for 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.800 the Ukraine war anymore. And then two is I do 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.560 think and I'm just from speaking to people about this, 0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.879 I think everybody pretty much sees the ends and so 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.560 it's really kind of only a matter of time. Among 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:07.840 the base anyway, they definitely do. Whereas you know, the public, 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.959 that's a little bit that would be a different result 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.760