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Speaker 2: Joe? Do you believe in free speech?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Can I criticize Jesus in the United States, beautiful?

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Speaker 1: I think is actually Jordan. What isn't Jordan? Just just

430
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Speaker 1: back off now and stop. So my point in bringing

431
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Speaker 1: all of this up is over the years, those who

432
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Speaker 1: are anti Israel even existing, pretend they just want to

433
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Speaker 1: piece over here. Just give me that piece over here.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the borders from nineteen twenty whatever.

435
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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the borders from nineteen forty eight.

436
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Speaker 1: Happen nineteen sixty seven when they had so hard, they

437
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Speaker 1: had all of those things until they brought war and lost.

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Speaker 1: So what is your counter argument when somebody says, I

439
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Speaker 1: guess it's what I just said. Let's go back to

440
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Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty seven borders and we'll be happy.

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Speaker 2: These people never wanted a second state to begin with,

442
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Speaker 2: because if they would have wanted a second state to

443
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Speaker 2: begin with, we would have seen a state in nineteen

444
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Speaker 2: thirty six, you know, eighty percent of the Arabs, twenty

445
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Speaker 2: percent for the Jews as Perspiel connection, but that didn't

446
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Speaker 2: take place, or maybe in nineteen forty eight it was

447
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Speaker 2: supposed to be a little bit more for the Jews.

448
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Speaker 2: But you have to remember that they also received Transjordan,

449
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Speaker 2: they received seven seven percent of the land. People never

450
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Speaker 2: look at trans Jordan as Palestinian territory that was split up.

451
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Speaker 2: They never look at it at that at Jordan that way,

452
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Speaker 2: which is a problem, but they never wanted a state

453
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Speaker 2: to begin with. If not in nineteen forty eight, why

454
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Speaker 2: not in nineteen sixty seven, Why did you invade the borders?

455
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Speaker 2: Why did you do that? Why did you remain a

456
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Speaker 2: part of your a part of your Arab cohesive people Jordan,

457
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Speaker 2: or your Arab cohesive people in Egypt. Why did you

458
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Speaker 2: choose to attack And if that's not the case, why

459
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Speaker 2: did you start the first Intefada in nineteen eighty seven,

460
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Speaker 2: or maybe why did you start the second Intifada in

461
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Speaker 2: the year two thousand, or why you always reject peace

462
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Speaker 2: because they're not after peace? And even when yes alha

463
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Speaker 2: Fat try to sign the peace deal in the two

464
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Speaker 2: thousand peace deal that was trying to be signed, you

465
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Speaker 2: know what he said, He said to his Arab colleagues,

466
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Speaker 2: never forget the Treaty of jude Bia, which is a

467
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Speaker 2: treaty that was signed between Prophet Muhammad and the Koreas

468
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Speaker 2: tribe which banished Prophet Muhammad. He signed a deal with

469
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Speaker 2: him for nine years, nine month, month and nine days.

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Speaker 2: He broke it after two years because he realized that

471
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Speaker 2: the Koreish tribe was weak. Yes, a lot of fact

472
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Speaker 2: believed in exactly the same thing. We will sign deals

473
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Speaker 2: with the enemy as long as it's strong, But the

474
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Speaker 2: moment it's weak, we are going to slash their throats.

475
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Speaker 2: Same applies to Haramas. Ramas just wanted to Ramas just said,

476
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Speaker 2: we will sign temporary peace deals for ten years max.

477
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Speaker 2: Just like the Treaty of Judaibiya of their prophet. It's

478
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Speaker 2: all Islamic, Joe, all Islamic. It's got nothing to do

479
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Speaker 2: with Israel. It's got nothing to do with Palestine. It's

480
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Speaker 2: all about the Jews, the din Bata, the canceled religion,

481
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Speaker 2: settling on their ancestral homeland period. And if anybody tells

482
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Speaker 2: you otherwise, it's a blatant lie. People always become refugees

483
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Speaker 2: during war, and it's a war that they started. Now

484
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Speaker 2: they're paying the repercussions.

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Speaker 1: By the way, there is a Palestinian state. It's called Jordan.

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Speaker 1: I mean they it's been for a very long time.

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Speaker 1: I mean the king and the queen is Palestinian although

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Speaker 1: they don't want any refugees from Gaza, which is very

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Speaker 1: interesting to me, because Egypt doesn't want them, Jordan doesn't

490
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Speaker 1: want them, nobody wants them. But yet we're supposed to

491
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Speaker 1: go march in the streets because of a genocide allegedly.

492
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Speaker 1: It is a hard TV go and follow them officials

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Speaker 1: ahardtv dot com.

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Speaker 2: Why don't the Palestinians in Jordan chant for a free

495
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Speaker 2: Palestine from the Jordanians right because it's a separate country

496
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Speaker 2: allegedly occupying them. Why don't they go out to the

497
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Speaker 2: streets and chant free Palestine from Jordan? Why don't they

498
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Speaker 2: chant that? Because it's nothing to do with the Muslims.

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Speaker 2: They don't care ifs kill them or oppress them in Lebanon,

500
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Speaker 2: or oppress them in Egypt, they don't care because it's

501
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Speaker 2: never about that. It's about the Jews.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. It's funny nobody on that side complains about

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Speaker 1: the big wall that Egypt puts up either. You mentioned

504
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Speaker 1: the Muslim brotherhood earlier. Egypt was smart enough to get

505
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Speaker 1: rid of them. When when Obama did this ridiculous Arab

506
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Speaker 1: Spring thing. I mean, they were going to make that

507
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Speaker 1: basically another theocracy in the military said screw you and

508
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Speaker 1: got rid of the Muslim brotherhood. That's why Egypt has

509
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Speaker 1: a little more modernity than other areas in that region.

510
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Speaker 1: All that said, when you see people claiming in this

511
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Speaker 1: country in the United States carrying what would be Palestinian

512
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Speaker 1: flags and it's a genocide and the Jews are bad,

513
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Speaker 1: why aren't those sane people complaining about thirty and forty

514
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Speaker 1: thousand people killed in Iran because they dare want freedom

515
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Speaker 1: in liberty? Why is that genocide? Okay? But this alleged

516
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Speaker 1: genocide in Gaza that didn't happen is not okay. Why

517
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Speaker 1: are they picking and choosing like that? Are they just stupid?

518
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Speaker 1: Do you think?

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Speaker 2: First of all, yes, I do think they're stupid. Second,

520
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Speaker 2: it's the very very engine that funds that, that well

521
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Speaker 2: oiled system called Hamas, called Chrisbala, called the Jutis that

522
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Speaker 2: Iran implemented in those very places to eradicate the Jews.

523
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Speaker 2: So if there's no funder and no trainer for these

524
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Speaker 2: terrorist organizations, who's gonna get rid of Israel? Because nobody

525
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Speaker 2: seems to be able to do it, but Iran does.

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Speaker 2: I mean when I say I run. I mean the IRGC.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the I run me amazing people. I'm not

528
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Speaker 2: talking about you guys. The IRGC is the main head

529
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Speaker 2: of the snake that is sending all its arms. Now

530
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Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a squid, right, sending all

531
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Speaker 2: its arms to the Middle least to go and try

532
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Speaker 2: and eradicate the Jews. If you oppose that very terrorist organization,

533
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Speaker 2: then I mean, they don't call it the terrorist organization,

534
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Speaker 2: then how are you going to eradicate the Jews? And

535
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Speaker 2: this just proves to you that the people who chen

536
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Speaker 2: free Palestine or stop the genocide that never happened, they're

537
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Speaker 2: not actually about oppressed people or people that were killed.

538
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: They were never about this. It's always about eradicating the Jews.

539
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Speaker 2: And how do we do it. We use the only

540
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Speaker 2: people that can, the IRGC that vowed death to Israel

541
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Speaker 2: and death to America, which people seem to forget all

542
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Speaker 2: the time. I don't know why they do.

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Speaker 1: They declared war on us in the nineteen seventies, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that it's taken this long for us to

545
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Speaker 1: do anything is kind of amazing. But I get your point. So,

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Speaker 1: in other words, you're going to take the side of

547
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Speaker 1: whoever extends the ability to try to get rid of Israel.

548
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Speaker 1: So we're for Hamas they hate Israel, We're for the IRGC.

549
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Speaker 1: They can kill one hundred thousand or a million Iranians,

550
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Speaker 1: that's fine as long as they stay in power trying

551
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Speaker 1: to get rid of Israel. Before, before the theocracy came

552
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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, stupidly by Jimmy Carter, he allowed that.

553
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Speaker 1: Before that happened, there was a very good relationship between

554
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Speaker 1: Israel and Iran. That can that be restored? Will that

555
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Speaker 1: relationship be better if the theocracy is defeated.

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Speaker 2: So every time I talk about Iran, the Irunians right

557
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Speaker 2: in my comments, you have to speak more about the

558
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Speaker 2: Shah because the objective is not only to get rid

559
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Speaker 2: of the IRGC or the Iyotolo regime. It's to bring

560
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Speaker 2: the shop back. So, yes, I believe that could take place.

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Speaker 2: The Shah is a great friend of Israel, a great

562
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Speaker 2: friend of the United States. I believe we could restore that.

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Speaker 2: But in order for that to happen, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't talk about this, there must be some

565
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Speaker 2: sort of operation on the ground. And I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: about the United States I'm not talking about Israel. There's

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Speaker 2: Kurdish forces on the ground. Any run, any run that

568
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Speaker 2: could take control of the one thing that drives financial

569
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Speaker 2: stability to the Iranians. When I say Runnians, I mean

570
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Speaker 2: the IRGC. The i Ruanians are suffering there. You know,

571
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Speaker 2: they barely have any money. There's noper inflation. So there's

572
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Speaker 2: there's Kurdish forces, opposition forces in the northwest part of Iran.

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Speaker 2: If we actually deploy them and train them to go

574
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Speaker 2: and take control of the Ahvas area, which is the

575
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: old rich Arab area, our Arab dominated area, and we

576
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Speaker 2: got the supply line of the Iranians for funds, maybe

577
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: then we can actually make this disgusting regime collapse and

578
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: change it with something that's a lot more suitable for

579
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Speaker 2: the region. And when people, you know, when every time

580
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Speaker 2: I talk about this, people say, but you know, we

581
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: tried to do this in Iraq and it didn't happen.

582
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Speaker 2: We tried to do this in Libya, but it didn't happen.

583
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Speaker 2: It didn't happen because they're not the same people. We

584
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Speaker 2: tried to do it in Germany and it happened. We

585
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Speaker 2: tried to do it in Japan, and it happened. The

586
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: Iranian people are not the same. They're one of the

587
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Speaker 2: most sophisticated people that I've seen. And the fact that

588
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Speaker 2: the people of Iran themselves are saying, do destroy the IRGC.

589
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Speaker 2: We will take the rest from here. The show will

590
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Speaker 2: come back, We'll do secular democracy. I believe them. They're

591
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Speaker 2: not the same as the Iraqis. They're not the same

592
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Speaker 2: as the Libyans. They're different, and they're sophisticated, and I

593
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Speaker 2: trust them.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an amazing point. And I bring this

595
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Speaker 1: up on my show all the time. Afghanistan was not

596
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Speaker 1: like this. Iraq wasn't like this. The people in Afghanistan

597
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: are run by a bunch of war lords. They defeated

598
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Speaker 1: the Soviet Union then state for twenty years for no

599
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Speaker 1: reason and ended up giving it back to the Taliban,

600
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Speaker 1: who still has ultimate control over the people, and the

601
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Speaker 1: people don't know any better. In Iraq, I mean, we

602
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Speaker 1: not only ruined it, we handed it to Iran, for

603
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Speaker 1: God's sakes. They're running the joint now, which doesn't make

604
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Speaker 1: any sense. But your point is so well taken. The

605
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Speaker 1: twenty five hundred year history of the Persian people wants

606
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Speaker 1: to rise back up, and they also like Western culture

607
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Speaker 1: and Western civilization. I do believe you're right that they'll

608
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Speaker 1: take over. But I'm here to tell you man is

609
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Speaker 1: an American guy born and raised. I don't want one

610
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Speaker 1: American boot on the ground there. I don't want us

611
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Speaker 1: to go in there because then it'll become a forever

612
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Speaker 1: war because all the machinery is going to be getting

613
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Speaker 1: making trillions of dollars. I wanted to be handed back

614
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Speaker 1: to the Iranian people. You're the first person that I've

615
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Speaker 1: heard say this is doable by the people. Don't we

616
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Speaker 1: have to have some sort of a chink in the

617
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Speaker 1: armor of the military in Iran. As soon as they

618
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Speaker 1: turn their guns on the theocracy, that's when you can

619
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Speaker 1: give it back to the people. Is that likely to happen?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any information on that?

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Speaker 2: So listen. What people don't understand about this regime change

622
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Speaker 2: in Iran is that you can destroy as many ballistic

623
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Speaker 2: missiles as you want, it's not going to do much

624
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Speaker 2: for the people in Iran. You can destroy many of

625
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: their nuclear capabilities in Iran, not going to do much

626
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: for the people in Iran. You can try and sink

627
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: their ships and explode and destroy their planes not going

628
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: to do much for the people of Iran, because the

629
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Speaker 2: people of Iran have one thing threatening them and is

630
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Speaker 2: the besiege and the IRGC aiming at AK forty seven

631
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Speaker 2: towards them, saying you try to rise, we kill you. Right,

632
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Speaker 2: just we saw what happened in the protest before this war,

633
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Speaker 2: This war erupted that everything. We need something to change

634
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Speaker 2: the direction of the AK forty seven towards the besiege,

635
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Speaker 2: towards the IRGC once that happens, and it can be

636
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Speaker 2: done without boots on the ground, because there are forces

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Speaker 2: in Iran that will oppose this regime, such as the

638
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Speaker 2: Courtish forces and the Balucci forces in on the other side,

639
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Speaker 2: and then there's the AHA's line that's connecting them both.

640
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Speaker 2: If we take control of that, we can actually cut

641
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Speaker 2: the supply chain. It will collapse to have nobody to

642
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: pay they can't pay them, and then how do you

643
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Speaker 2: think it's going to withstand. It's not going to withstand.

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Speaker 2: They're slowly going to suffocate, and then we might see

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Speaker 2: a change.

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Speaker 1: It is a sahar TV. Go and follow him official

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Speaker 1: sahartv dot com, Go to Official Sahart TV over on YouTube,

648
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Speaker 1: and also go check him out on Instagram and on

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Speaker 1: on TikTok. Let me finish with this, and you have

650
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Speaker 1: to promise to come back again. I love talking to you.

651
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Speaker 1: Your knowledge is vast and I think I've learned a

652
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Speaker 1: lot in this conversation. Let me finish with this. Joe

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Speaker 1: Kent is a guy that I had on this show

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Speaker 1: what he was running for a US representative. I find

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Speaker 1: him to be a I found him to be a

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Speaker 1: decent man, served very very valiantly. He's a gold star husband,

657
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: his wife was killed in action, and then he goes

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Speaker 1: and gets this job Encounter Terrorism. My problem with Joe

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Speaker 1: Kent and how he reacted here, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: I've got his phone number, I've reached out. He's ignoring me.

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Speaker 1: He's not coming on the show. I think he knows

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask him some pretty hard questions. My

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Speaker 1: biggest problem with Joe Kent is that he didn't do

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Speaker 1: this the day we start the operation against Iran. Had

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Speaker 1: he done it that day, Sahar, I would have said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he consciously disagrees, he morally disagrees. I get it. He

667
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Speaker 1: waited two and a half weeks. What do you make

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Speaker 1: of that? Because what if I'm against you doing something

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Speaker 1: you're doing. I'm not gonna hang out with you for

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Speaker 1: two and a half more weeks and then complain about

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Speaker 1: it later and throw you under the bus. I'm gonna say, Sahara,

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Speaker 1: I can't do that, and I'm gonna walk away. What

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Speaker 1: do you make of that?

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Speaker 2: Something is pretty fishy with Joe Kent. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: And there's one tweet that I can't show you right here,

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Speaker 2: but there's one tweet that I read of him from

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Speaker 2: I think twenty twenty two or twenty twenty four, I'm

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Speaker 2: not exactly sure date, but he said, we need to

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Speaker 2: destroy the entire ballistic missile arsenal of the IRGC. Joe,

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Speaker 2: if you're against an operation with Iran, against the war

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Speaker 2: with Iran, then why would you write this? How do

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Speaker 2: you suggest rid of the ballistic missile capabilities of the

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Speaker 2: IRGC without bombing the ballistic missiles just like President Donald

684
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Speaker 2: Trump is doing right now? How do you suggest we

685
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Speaker 2: did what you found out that there's an alleged investigation

686
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Speaker 2: by the FBI on you. That's what you found out.

687
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Speaker 2: So you decided you're gonna quit right now and join

688
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Speaker 2: your groper friends and they're probably your friends, Joe, I

689
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: don't know them very much, such as Tucker Carlson and

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Speaker 2: Megan Kelly, who are writing on this cause because it

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Speaker 2: gets them clicks and views and likes.

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Speaker 1: I am not a friend of Tucker. He was on

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Speaker 1: the show once before he started his Fox show, but

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen them or talk to him since. Megan

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00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: and I go back a bit, and I'm confused about

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Speaker 1: her take. I want her to be a journalist. I

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Speaker 1: want her to be straight down the middle, and if

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Speaker 1: she wants to yell the F word on her podcast,

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Speaker 1: god bless her. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think that she's almost trying to

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Speaker 1: straddle a line and she's leaning one way that I'm

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Speaker 1: not happy about. Well, we can talk about that more later.

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Speaker 1: As far as Joe Kent goes, you think it's that

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Speaker 1: he found out he was being investigated. We now know

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Speaker 1: by several sources, including Andrew Colvet, that Joe Kent is

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Speaker 1: the only person in government whoever got the signal chat

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Speaker 1: from Charlie Kirk in that group the day before Charlie

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Speaker 1: was killed, and suddenly Candice Owen's got it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't get into somebody else's head just like you can't.

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Speaker 1: But you spelled that very well. If you felt this

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Speaker 1: about the ballistic missiles, and if we're doing what you

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Speaker 1: wanted us to do, what is your problem? Has he

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Speaker 1: answered that question at all?

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Speaker 2: Do you think?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: No, he hasn't. No, he hasn't, and the fact that

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Speaker 2: he needs to do of course, of course you can

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Speaker 2: see all the I found maybe I think five or

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Speaker 2: six tweets from Joe Kent completely debunking the claims he's

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Speaker 2: making now. And by the way, he made a recent

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Speaker 2: tweet that also blew me away. He said, it seems

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Speaker 2: like the United States is withholding their war with Iran. Amazing.

723
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Speaker 2: Israel isn't gonna like this, so hold on, you said,

724
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Speaker 2: Israel is the puppet masters of the United States. So

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Speaker 2: now Israel isn't gonna like the fact that the United

726
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Speaker 2: States is stopping the war. And by the way, Israel

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Speaker 2: said that they will keep attacking Iran regardless of what

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Speaker 2: the United States keeps doing. So Israel isn't dictating the

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Speaker 2: United States what to do. The United States isn't dictating

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Speaker 2: Israel what to do. We have different objectives, similar values,

731
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Speaker 2: but we have different objectives and Israel will keep going

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Speaker 2: regardless of what the United is. So Joe Kent is

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Speaker 2: incredibly confusing. He was cut off of all intel and

734
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Speaker 2: information for what a month and a half two months back? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: reasoning behind that.

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Speaker 1: Well, and why leave him and why leave him in

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Speaker 1: the job, And if you're gonna come off from the information,

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Speaker 1: maybe launch him. And you almost get the feeling. And

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Speaker 1: I don't have this on knowledge, but I'm making some

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Speaker 1: assumptions here. You almost get the feeling that they said,

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Speaker 1: we're investigating you. You're not welcome into these secret meetings,

742
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Speaker 1: but we don't want to put you on blast and

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Speaker 1: ruin you, so just shut up and stay out of

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Speaker 1: the way. And for some reason, on that day, two

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Speaker 1: and a half weeks into it, he decides, I'm now

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Speaker 1: going to throw the president of the United States under

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Speaker 1: the bus and act like he's Babie's puppet. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Let me finish with this.

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Speaker 1: I said I was going to finish with Kent. But

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Speaker 1: now that I have you, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: When Obama was in office in twelve he could have

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Speaker 1: done what President Trump is doing now. He could have

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Speaker 1: shown at least moral support to the Persian people, the

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Speaker 1: people of Iran that hate the i r GC and

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Speaker 1: that hate the theocracy. But instead he said, quote, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to meddle in the election affairs of the

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Speaker 1: Islamic Republic. When he said that, the IRGC started killing

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Speaker 1: people in the street, just shooting them in the face.

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00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: If they dared come out and say we want to

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Speaker 1: have a free and fair election, We're pretty sure somebody

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Speaker 1: other than the guy that was allegedly the winner won

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Speaker 1: that election. That guy was put into exile or killed

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Speaker 1: and people were killed in the street. So simple question.

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Speaker 1: Had Obama done then what Trump is doing now, might

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Speaker 1: there be a free year on today potentially.

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Speaker 2: But Obama would have never done that. Because you have

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00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: to realize every time there's a Muslim in power in

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Speaker 2: the West, which the Muslim world is looking with great respect.

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Speaker 2: The the fact that Mamdani just won the New York

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Speaker 2: City elections, the fact that he is right now in

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Speaker 2: office is a great victory for the Muslim world. The

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Speaker 2: fact that dearborn Michigan the mayor there is Muslim great victory.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that Mamdanni won after what happened in

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Speaker 2: nine to eleven. Yeah, you know, the same person that's

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Speaker 2: been chanting globalized the interfile on college campuses because he

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Speaker 2: was leading the Free Palestine protest or whatever. The fact

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Speaker 2: that that very person who said globalizefla wud means globalize

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Speaker 2: the violence against Jews and Christians worldwide, the fact that

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Speaker 2: he's in office right now just puts a hell of

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Speaker 2: a lot of wind in the backs of the Muslim saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: we were able to get this person in New York City.

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Speaker 2: We were able to get Barack Hussein Obama in the

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Speaker 2: president position in the United States. The sky is the limit. Yeah,

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00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: the sky is the limit. The American population forgets we

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00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: can infiltrate politics from within. We can affect politics from within,

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Speaker 2: and once we do, bye by American values, Bye by freedom,

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Speaker 2: Bye bye. We don't support that, you corrupt our system.

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Speaker 2: We will never support this. So Americans, if you're watching this,

789
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: realize what's coming your way, open your eyes and start

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Speaker 2: acting accordingly because you don't want to be subjugated by

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Speaker 2: no one. That's all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. It's a heart

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Speaker 1: TV over on YouTube. It's at official Sahar TV officialsawheartv

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Speaker 1: dot com. Go follow him on all the platforms. He's

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Speaker 1: an amazing debater. He's somebody who's got a vast amount

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Speaker 1: of knowledge, and I appreciate you hanging out when it

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00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: comes to mom Donnie. I urge you probably haven't done

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Speaker 1: this because you and I just now connected, but I

799
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: urge you to go and check out my interview from

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00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: last week with Rudy Giuliani, again, the best mayor that

801
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: New York City ever had, and his comments about mum

802
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: Donni will really make you happy because he's not playing

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00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: around and that city is in dire straits. The only

804
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: good thing is we know that mum Donni lied his

805
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: ass off to get the job. I'm going to give

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00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: free bussing and free food and free housing and bah

807
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: bah bap. He's not doing any of that stuff. He's

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00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: doing the exact opposite what he said. And there's already

809
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: remorse in that city. And then when you walk up

810
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: to the microphone and say the prophet Muhammad says about migration,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh damn, twenty five years after nine to eleven,

812
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: that's happening in New York. So if you don't mind,

813
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: go and check out that video, I think that you

814
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: would enjoy it. Sahar and let's do this again very soon.

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Speaker 1: I really love the amount of knowledge that you bring

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00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: and I love how you do it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Joe, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, my man, that's going to do it. For

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Speaker 1: this one, I'm shaking it and unafraid with Joe. PAGs

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Speaker 1: another one to drop very soon. Make sure you subscribe.