1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: It's hard to be a Messianic Jew in Israel, and 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: then to not only do that, but not to power 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: under it, but to be bold and take the Scripture 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: and the Gospel the people in Israel. That is not easy. 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: How can we have good conversations about Jesus with our 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: Jewish and Muslim friends. We must keep reaching out to 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Jewish and Muslim people around us with God's love and 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: with words of hope. Hi, and welcome to this episode 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: of Inside the Epicenter with Joel and Lynn Rosenberg, a 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: podcast of the Joshua Fund. We are a ministry dedicated 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: to blessing Israel and her neighbors in the name of Jesus. 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm Lynn Rosenberg with the Joshua Fund team, and today 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: we're excited to share the recording from a special session 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: on our Joshua Fund cruise to Alaska. In this session, 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: our wonderful guests and Graham Lott's, Victor Kalisher and Henry 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: Allen discuss how we can start gentle and strong, scripture 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: rooted conversations about Jesus with Jewish and Muslim friends. They 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: also talk about where they see God moving right now 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: in the Epicenter. Let's listen in. 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: Okay. 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: So these are questions that you guys have asked, and 22 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: so I'm just going to be reading them. So the 23 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: first question is for Henry and Victor, how do you 24 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: initiate conversations about Jesus when speaking to Jews and or Muslims? 25 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: And part two is what challenges do you often encounter 26 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: and how do you handle these challenges. Let's go ahead 27 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: and start with Victor. 28 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: So many of the questions be around is it at 29 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: all relevant for us? Is just how come that you 30 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: see Jesus in the Old Testament at all? How how 31 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: come that you believe that Jesus is the Messiah? So 32 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 4: I always try to take it to the Old Testament 33 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 4: and showing from the Old Testament that Jesus is the 34 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 4: fulfillment of all the Messianic expectation of the Old Testament, 35 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: that the Old Testament is actually the id card of 36 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: the Messiah. And Judaism is all about the Messianic expectation. 37 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: Everything in Judaism basically points to the Messiah at the end. 38 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: So I always try to take it to that. And 39 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: another thing that I must say that I try to 40 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: make sure that it does not become a competition of 41 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: knowledge because at the end I want that the message 42 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: will go to the heart. And I always one of 43 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 4: the things that I share many times that I tell 44 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: them that my Jewish identity is fulfilled in Christ. That 45 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: actually the rabbinical Judaism is taking us away from the Bible. 46 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 5: It's not really what the Bible is. 47 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: Teaching, and that what we need is repentance of sins 48 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 4: and we cannot have it through our own deeds, and 49 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: it is only through the Assiety. That's why He came 50 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 4: to be the way by which God can bring us 51 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: as a Jewish nation to himself and fulfill his desire 52 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: is calling for us as a Jewish nation. So it 53 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: goes to these places, and of course it shows how 54 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: Jesus in the New Testament fulfills these prophecies. So many 55 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: times it goes there and again I try not to 56 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: make it an intellectual competition, but really an answer to 57 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: the heart's desire relationship with God, and this can only 58 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: be through Christ. 59 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: Henry. 60 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, my approach starts before I meet Mohammed. 61 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 6: So it starts by praying every day for everyone named Mohammad. 62 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 6: And it starts also I always keep a New Testament 63 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 6: in my backpack or the bag I'm carrying every day, 64 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 6: and I always pray, say, Lord, introduce me to the 65 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 6: owner of this book. 66 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 5: That's not mine. 67 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 6: I have my own Bible, So introduce me, please, to 68 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 6: the owner of this book. So quite often when I 69 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 6: meet a Mohammed, I am happy to meet him. He 70 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 6: can see the excitement that I'm pleasant in meeting him, 71 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 6: and he would want to talk. And my opening conversation 72 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 6: quite often is have you ever read the Engail, which 73 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 6: is the New Testament for the Muslims. I know when 74 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 6: I say in Jail, that means I'm talking about the 75 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 6: New Testament, the book of Jesus Christ. And for all 76 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 6: of you to know, Muslim people believe that the in 77 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 6: Jail is one of the books of heaven, the heavenly books. 78 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 6: Yet they believe it has been corrupted, and ninety nine 79 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 6: point ninety nine percent of Muslims have never even seen 80 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 6: a copy. So in my approach, I asked, have you 81 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 6: ever read the Jail? Of course, most of the time 82 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 6: would say no. And my next statement would be, if 83 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 6: I'm to give you a copy as a gift, would 84 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 6: you like to receive it? Would you consider reading it? 85 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 6: So just two three weeks ago, I was in Lebanon 86 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 6: and I had that copy ready and the Uber driver 87 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 6: was a Mohammed. Immediately I did the same approach. Mohammad 88 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 6: was delighted to receive the copy of the new testing 89 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 6: and that's one of my approaches. 90 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: Thank you Henry, thank you Victor. And the next question 91 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: is for you. First of all, thank you so much 92 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: for teaching Matthew twenty four. And it was insightful and 93 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 3: it was encouraging. And as we discern the times we're in, 94 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: there is the opposite thought that Matthew twenty four is 95 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: not laying out the events that we're seeing. 96 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 5: Now. 97 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: What is your response to this point of view and 98 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 3: how do you defend the thought that Matthew twenty four 99 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: is applicable for today's day and age. 100 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: Thank you for your encouraging words about the message. So 101 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: when I speak, when all rite, I share what God 102 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: is put on mahat of what he has seemed to 103 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: reveal to me. I'm not an apologist, so I don't 104 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: try to defend the scripture. Starting with Genesis, chapter one, 105 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: verse one. In the beginning, God created the heavens and 106 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: the earth. The Bible doesn't defend existence of God doesn't 107 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: try to explain, it doesn't try prove it. It just 108 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: starts there. And Matthew twenty four. I'm sorry, I didn't 109 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: realize we're having the Q and A this morning, so 110 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: I didn't even bring my Bible to the session. I 111 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: borrowed marrows for Joel's great message on Isaiah nineteen. But 112 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: I believe it's Matthew twenty four and in verses thirty 113 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: two to thirty four, when he gives a parable of 114 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: the fig tree, he says, the generation that sees this 115 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: take place will be the last generation, and that's the 116 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: re establishment of the nation of Israel. I believe Joel 117 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: Harti has pointed out that the beginning of this end 118 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: time scenario, the day of the Lord leading up to 119 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: the return of Jesus, was triggered with star the time 120 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: clock began with the re establishment of the nation of Israel. 121 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: And then if you back up to Matthew chapter twenty four, 122 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: the first thing, it's three and four when the disciples 123 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: asked Jesus what will be the sign of the end 124 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: of the age, and that's what it goes through. And 125 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: I think some of those things could apply to eighty 126 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: seventy some of the judgments when you'll be handed over 127 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: and you'll be put to death and all that. But 128 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: you can also Prophecy is interesting because it has layers. 129 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: It can speak to seventy a D. But then you 130 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: leap frog and it can speak to the end of time. 131 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: So as Joel was pointing out, from zeph and I 132 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: to the back and forth. So there may be some 133 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: back and forth in Matthew twenty four. But I'm sorry 134 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: if you read and I started to say, read your newspaper. 135 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: We don't do that anymore. However, you get your news. 136 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: If you get your news and you line it up 137 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: with Matthew twenty four, how could you not think it 138 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: speaks to our generation. So we're seeing it take place, 139 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: and we're living in biblically prophetic time. So I'm not 140 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: going to argue that point. I wouldn't try to defend it. 141 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: I just want to live my life. Let me tell 142 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: you something. I want to live my life so that 143 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: five minutes before I see Jesus, I have no regrets. Okay, 144 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: So I want to live on the sharp edge of expectance. 145 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: That I'm on the tiptoe of expectancy. So I will 146 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: tell you and I told Joel and Lin this yesterday 147 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: and they laughed it. I put Rosa Shana on my 148 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: calendar every year the feast of the trumpets, and just 149 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: as the other feasts have been fulfilled by Jesus, I 150 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: think possibly the Rasiashana feast would be fulfilled by the 151 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: blast of the trumpet and Jesus coming down with a 152 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: loud shout and the voice of the archangel and catching 153 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: us up to be with him. I believe that could 154 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: be a fulfillment of Rossias Shana. So that's I live 155 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: with that expectancy every day, but it gets heightened this 156 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: September when we have Rassia Shana. So I can't I'm 157 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: not going to defend it. I can't explain it, but 158 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: I believe in my personal said I've been studying the 159 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: scripture in depth for over fifty years, and the way 160 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: I do it is more what you were saying from 161 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: your heart. You know, you speak from the heart. And 162 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: the Lord told me a long time ago, or he 163 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: seemed to say to me that I couldn't speak to 164 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: the minds of people because I'm not smart enough, I'm 165 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: not intellectual, but he wanted me to speak to their hearts, 166 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: and I believe that's the way he speaks to me. 167 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: He speaks to my heart, and that I want to 168 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: share with others what he seems to have said to me. 169 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know that that answers your question. 170 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 5: I think that's. 171 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: Something you'll have to take before the Lord and you. 172 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: Just ask him. 173 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: But you read the headlines, look at the headlines of 174 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: the news, and you read Matthew twenty four and it's 175 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: amazing how they match up. 176 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: It's interesting that Victor's comment and your comment are very similar. 177 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: You know that he doesn't challenge and it's similar to 178 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: what you just said. Henry. In the Epicenter region, are 179 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: people still having dreams and visions of Jesus and would 180 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: you share your favorite example. 181 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 6: I believe God has really gracefully allowed multitude of Muslims 182 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 6: to have visions, dreams, even experienced miraculous healing in many situations. 183 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 6: But just recently, was in Lebanon, just a couple of 184 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 6: weeks ago, and my two sisters and I we went 185 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 6: out in the afternoon to have coffee and dessert, and 186 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 6: the lady serving us I found out she was Syrian, 187 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 6: had run for her life, and I told you a 188 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 6: little bit about it the other day, but we were 189 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 6: so encouraged to hear her testimony that she really ran 190 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 6: for her life because of her faith. 191 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: She's a lawyer and. 192 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 6: She refused to accept bribe in a court case, and 193 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 6: she told the defendant that she's a Christian and she 194 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 6: was threatened and she and her mother and younger brother 195 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 6: ran for their life. Now, when I met them, I asked, 196 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 6: have you been in touch with believers here? She said no, 197 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 6: we don't know anybody. And said can I help you? 198 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 6: And can I have a friend contact you? And at 199 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 6: that moment she said, you know, last night I had 200 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 6: a dream. I had a dream that I was walking 201 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 6: and a person came, a stranger came by my side, 202 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 6: and both of us we were singing, praising the Lord. 203 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 6: And when I woke up, I asked my mother. I 204 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 6: told her what my dream was, and she said, you're 205 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 6: gonna meet somebody who's gonna help you, who's gonna come 206 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: alongside you and gonna help you. Well, you know, right now, 207 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 6: one of my friends pastor who's pastoring a congregation. All 208 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 6: of them are Muslim Evangelist MBBS Muslim background believers in 209 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 6: South Lebanon and already and visited this family and already 210 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 6: got them in touch with the Church, and just exactly 211 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 6: what the Lord showed her in her dream. 212 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: Thank you, Henry. 213 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: Today's verse comes from One Peter, chapter three, verse fifteen. 214 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who 215 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: asks you to give the reason for the hope that 216 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: you have, but do this with gentleness and respect. Will 217 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: you join us in praying for more and more believers 218 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: to be willing to initiate honest scripture rooted conversations with 219 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: Jewish and Muslim friends, asking heart questquestions without pride or argument. 220 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: Ask the Lord to keep spreading his word more and 221 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: more through print and digital channels, to meet seekers through 222 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: dreams and visions, and to connect them with churches that 223 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: will disciple them in the Word of God. Pray for pastors, evangelists, 224 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: and the new believers in Israel and Lebanon and Syria, 225 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: all the different places that our guests talked about today, 226 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: that they will stand firm, that they will shepherd wisely, 227 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: and that leaders would be multiplied as God moves across 228 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: the epicenter. 229 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,479 Speaker 3: Victor, would you share with us one of your favorite 230 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: examples of an an Israeli Jewish person coming to faith 231 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: since October seventh would love to. 232 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: And you know, the stories that I love the most 233 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: many times is not necessarily the ones that someone have 234 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: seen an angel, but the simple ones, the ones that 235 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: a seed that was sown in the heart of someone. 236 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 5: And yield salvation. 237 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: And there are many of those, because we are in 238 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: the business of sowing seeds, seeds of life, of eternity, 239 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: of salvation. And the one that I love so much 240 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 4: is a young man Benjamin comes to the Bible Society, 241 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 4: and we need to realize that it's not about us. 242 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: It's not that we as Bible Society or the Joshua 243 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: Fund or any other organization does the salvation of all 244 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: the people. 245 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: And that's it. 246 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: God is using his people. We are servants of the Lord, 247 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 4: each one. 248 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: Of us as a share in that. 249 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: You know, some souls another one waters and God says, 250 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: and we never know what a certain person went through, 251 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: even all his life to prepare him that when you 252 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: say one word, that will be the thing that we 253 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 4: open the heart. So this person, Benjamin is young men. 254 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: He was really searching for God that he came to 255 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: the Bio Society and told me I was searching for God. 256 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: I had a desire for God and I didn't find 257 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 4: it in his A seratic Jew comes from a religious background. 258 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 4: And I searched and I prayed to God and I 259 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: prayed God, is this true, that that Jesus that the 260 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: issue is the real Messiah? If so, I want to 261 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: come to you. I repent and he tells me how 262 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: at that point he felt like all the weight and burden, 263 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: you know, is taken away from him. And it feels 264 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 4: like that God feels him with joy. And you know, 265 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: this is something that I grew up in a believing 266 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: family and every time people tell me, how did you 267 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: come to faith? And said, I lived it. I believed 268 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: in it all my life. At a certain point I said, 269 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: I have to give my love to declare it. 270 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 5: But I lived it all. 271 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: I never went against it. I loved God from childhood. 272 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: I don't have a special story. And this man I 273 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 4: envied him. 274 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 5: In a sense. 275 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 4: You know that God just poured his spirit upon him 276 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 4: and took the burden of the syney and he repented. 277 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 5: That's one thing. Another story. We do outreach. 278 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 4: We have a team that does outreach throughout Israel, and 279 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: at one point, you know, it was a hot day. 280 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: They wanted to go to a small store and buy 281 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 4: some something to drink and do eat a snack and something. 282 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 4: So they bought it and then the man in the 283 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: shop they asked them who should they write the receipt to. 284 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 4: So they say the Bible Society in Israel, and it 285 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: was like, what are you these guys? And he shows 286 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: us his a phone with the logo of the Bible Society. Wow, 287 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 4: I was longing to meet one of you. I'm reading 288 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: your messages. We do gospel messages and the New Translation 289 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 4: on the internet, and I love it. I really feel 290 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: that this, you know, changed my life. And that's another case, 291 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 4: another one. Again we do outreach and this Avram his name, 292 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: it comes from an Orthodox background. 293 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 5: We shared the New Testament with him. 294 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: He started to read it and we told him come 295 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: again to the same place where we do outreach there 296 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 4: and it came, and then another day comes again and 297 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 4: every time, okay, do you read? And he says yes, 298 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: and it is changing my life. My friends tell me 299 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 4: you don't even look the same. What happened to you? 300 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: And he says, I'm just reading the word of God. 301 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 4: I'm reading the New Testament. So these are some of 302 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: the of the stories that are happening in these days, 303 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 4: and again there are more and more that we don't 304 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: even know. People come to the bar Society because it 305 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: says Bible Society and they were touched and they say, 306 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 4: I heard, I read. 307 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 5: Do you have a new Testament to give me? It's 308 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 5: a great joint. 309 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. Okay, So this next question I'm going to 310 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: ask of each of you. So you're going to each 311 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: give a response, and we'll start with Ann what excites 312 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: you most about what you see God doing in the 313 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: epicenter these days? 314 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: What Victor just said and what Henry has just said. 315 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: But God is moving, you know, it's just really thrilling, 316 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: and there are no boundaries to the Holy Spirit. He 317 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: can cross language barriers, cultural barriers, geographical barriers. But I 318 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: love both of these Can I just say I love 319 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: both of these men very precious And if you listen 320 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: to what they say, so much of what they say 321 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: is rooted in the Word of God, and the word 322 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: of God given out is powerful like sharper than a 323 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: two edged sword. And what's exciting to me is that 324 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: God is given both Henry and Victor insight, understanding vision 325 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: of how to reach their particular mission, Fiel, and so 326 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: I can see the strain a little bit in Victor's space, 327 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: where it's just hard to be a messianic Jew in Israel, 328 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: and then to not only do that, but not to 329 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: power under it, but to be bold and take the 330 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: scripture and the Gospel to the people in Israel. That 331 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: is not easy. And so I just praise God for you, 332 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: Victory and Henry. I have loved your stories. I didn't 333 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: meet Henry until Saturday when we boarded the ship, and 334 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: he turned and spoke to me. And I found out 335 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: that Ruthie went to heaven just right before their forty 336 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: ninth wedding anniversary. And I told them ten years ago 337 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: this August, I buried my husband two days before my 338 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: forty ninth wedding anniversary. And so we just struck up 339 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: a bond. And I just appreciate the fact, Henry, that 340 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: you're fresh in grief, but you have not lost your passion, 341 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: your zeal, your vision, your heart to fulfill the purpose 342 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: that God has left you here for. And so what 343 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: they said, and of course Joel's messages and a little 344 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: bit more familiar with Joel because I'll get his newsletters 345 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: and I'm privileged to know him personally, but this has 346 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: been the fresh blessing for me and just exciting because 347 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: to be honest, God loves the whole world, and so 348 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: if you're an American, if you're a Canadian, God loves 349 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: us too, you know, And he's working in our midst 350 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: and I know that, and I want to do my 351 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: best to reach the people that God has sent me to. 352 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: But he loves the whole world. But I know that 353 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: Jews and Muslims in particular have a movement of God 354 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm thrilled. So I don't know if 355 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: that answers the question, but it's very exciting to me 356 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: and encouraging that God is moving. And sometimes when he moves, 357 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: if you look, it's not pleasant. So he can move 358 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: by sending over or he can move by allowing Hamas 359 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: to do what they did in October seventh in my 360 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: prayers that that would cause Israel to look up and 361 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: see her Messiah. But he can move in unpleasant ways, 362 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: but he's moving. He's an active God. So I'm just 363 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: thankful for the evidence we've had from Henry and Victor 364 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: and Joel that he's moving in the epicenter. 365 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: Amen, Thank you, Victor. 366 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: I'm just you took my words in a sense that 367 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: people come to God when they go mostly through difficult times, 368 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 4: and Israel is going through very, very difficult times. You know, 369 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: many people because of that say, well, worries God. But 370 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: you know, even that is good because they ask a 371 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 4: question and you can talk with them. So there is 372 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: an openness, there is a response, even it seems like 373 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 4: a negative response at the beginning. My father a Holocaust survivor, 374 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 4: he came to faith following the Holocaust by receiving a Bible. 375 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 5: He received a. 376 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 4: Bible, read the Bible and a verse that's just you know, 377 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: struck is hard. When thy father and mother forsake you, 378 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: I will gather you. He lost all his families. It's 379 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: a long story, but this really brought him to faith. 380 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 4: And Jeremy Ah thirty verse seven says that Israel will 381 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: go through terrible times it's called the jacob'struggle, but through 382 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: it she will be saved. So it is through very 383 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 4: difficult time that God works and awakens the people and 384 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 4: prepares their heart, and many long to him. 385 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 5: And we are going through that now. 386 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 4: I wish we would not you know, we don't want wars, 387 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 4: and we don't want, you know, difficult times and suffering. 388 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: Of course, we don't pray for suffering, but as they happen, 389 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: we pray that God will turn the eyes of people 390 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 4: to himself, their hearts to himself, and that people will 391 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 4: soften and receive Him. 392 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: And we see that this is really happening. 393 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 4: So we need to use this not window of opportunity, 394 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: This is really a door of opportunity that we must 395 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: react upon. We cannot just you know, be passive when 396 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: God is working in such a way amongst the people 397 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: of Israeli in this region. We see the suffering, and 398 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 4: Joshua found you know, the testimony of the love of 399 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: Christ is so that people will taste and see that 400 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 4: God is good. That in in spite of all these 401 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 4: turbo suffering, God is good. God is always good. He 402 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: didn't change, and he's loving, and he's doing that because 403 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 4: He will not let the people of Israel reach peace 404 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 4: and prosperity Without him. They will not be able to 405 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: come to the point that when we did it our 406 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 4: own way right, it cannot work. God wants his people 407 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: and it will bring them to the point too is 408 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 4: calling for them and he will turn the world upside 409 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: down if needed to bring his people back to himself, 410 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 4: and this is happening these days, and we need to 411 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: respond to that. 412 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 6: And me, yeah, I'm really excited. And first of all, 413 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 6: I'm so excited about how many Christians all over the 414 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 6: world are praying for the Muslim world and the epicenter, 415 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 6: and just so exciting because i know when people pray, 416 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 6: God's going to answer and some great things gonna happen. 417 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 6: And I'm very excited about that. Second thing, I'm really 418 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 6: excited how the Word of God is going out so 419 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 6: powerfully in a huge number, reaching millions and millions of people. Third, 420 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 6: I'm so excited because the Muslim governments cannot stop the 421 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 6: Gospel to go into their countries anymore. You know, you 422 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 6: got the radio, you got television via satellite, you got 423 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 6: the Internet, the websites, the social media. They cannot stop 424 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 6: it anymore. It's unstoppable. It cannot be confined. Like Paul said, 425 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 6: the Word of God cannot be confined. The other thing 426 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 6: I'm excited is the number of Muslims coming to know 427 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 6: Jesus today is staggering. We don't even know how to 428 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 6: handle all the people coming to know the Lord another one. 429 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 6: I'm excited many of these Muslim converts are being raised 430 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 6: as leaders, as pastors. Imagine yourself having dinner with Pastor 431 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 6: Muhammad and Pastor Ibrahim and Pastor Aziz. That's when I 432 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 6: had the privilege sitting down with five mbbs who are pastors. 433 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 6: And this is really exciting that today we are seeing 434 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 6: Muslim background believers taking the charge. And now we're seeing 435 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 6: missionaries going from country to country. I had one week 436 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 6: teaching in Germany to about one hundred and twenty Arabs 437 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 6: living in Europe. Three Iraqi Muslim converts decided to go 438 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 6: back to Iraq as missionaries to their own people. To 439 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 6: God be the glory. The doors are open. If you 440 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 6: don't think they are open, maybe you're hiding the key. 441 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: In your pocket. 442 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to this episode where we talked 443 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: about how to have a gospel conversation with our Jewish 444 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: and Muslim friends. If you found this podcast valuable, please 445 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: click the subscribe button on your podcast app, Share this 446 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: episode with a friend or family member who might be interested, 447 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 2: and please don't hesitate to contact us. Let us know 448 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: who you are. Do you want to talk about something 449 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: else on this show? 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