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Speaker 1: Welcome to Christian Parent Crazy World, the podcast that tackles

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Speaker 1: tough topics to help you be a godly parent in

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Speaker 1: an ungodly world. I am your host, Katherine Seegers, and

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, we will tackle this vitally important question.

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Speaker 1: What if some of the health problems our kids and

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Speaker 1: even us as adults experience have deeper roots than we realize?

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Speaker 1: And what if one of those roots is hiding in

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Speaker 1: something we do every single night, sleep? As parents, we

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Speaker 1: want to address the problems our kids are facing, but

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Speaker 1: sometimes we focus on symptoms without ever getting to the root. Today,

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Speaker 1: we're going to look at one potential root issue that

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Speaker 1: can have a profound impact on every area of our

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Speaker 1: children's health, development, sleep, and overall well-being. That is airway health.

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Speaker 1: And I think you're going to be surprised by what

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Speaker 1: you learn about something as seemingly simple as the way

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Speaker 1: our kids breathe while they're sleeping. That's the plan for

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Speaker 1: this episode of Christian Parent Crazy World. Moms and dads,

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Speaker 1: so much of medical care is designed to treat the

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Speaker 1: symptom in front of us. We have a headache, so

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Speaker 1: we take something for the headache. We have trouble sleeping,

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Speaker 1: so we look for something to help us sleep. A

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Speaker 1: child has crooked teeth, so we straighten the teeth. I

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Speaker 1: have done that three times. Oh, so expensive. But what

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Speaker 1: if sometimes we're treating the symptom without ever asking what

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Speaker 1: is causing the problem in the first place? That is

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Speaker 1: what I found so fascinating about today's conversation. Dr. Callie

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Speaker 1: Hale has spent years looking beneath the surface of children's health.

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Speaker 1: And she's identified one potential root issue that can affect

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Speaker 1: far more than our kids' teeth. In fact, it can

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Speaker 1: impact sleep, development, behavior, learning, energy, and overall health. It's

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Speaker 1: something that can affect us as adults as well. How

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Speaker 1: well we're breathing while we sleep. Dr. Hale is a

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Speaker 1: dentist specializing in dental sleep medicine and airway health, something

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Speaker 1: I honestly have not thought a whole lot about. Her

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Speaker 1: training in obstructive sleep apnea literally transformed both her personal

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Speaker 1: and professional career and her work in pediatric expansion and

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Speaker 1: sleep disordered breathing has led to a national speaking career

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Speaker 1: focused on the connection between oral health, airway health, sleep

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Speaker 1: and overall systemic health. Callie is the co-founder and chief

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Speaker 1: clinical officer of the Airway Dentists. She is the founder

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Speaker 1: and chief dental officer of Toothpillow, and she is the

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Speaker 1: author of The Dental Burnout Solution. And just let me say, wow,

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Speaker 1: this conversation literally blew my mind. I did not know

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Speaker 1: what I did not know, moms and dads. And I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize that some of these pesky health issues that

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Speaker 1: I've recently noticed with my kids and with me actually

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Speaker 1: have a much bigger root issue. And it's a much

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Speaker 1: more serious root issue, but it is a correctable root

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Speaker 1: issue if you are asking the right questions. So after

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Speaker 1: this fascinating conversation with Callie, I was reminded of the

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Speaker 1: verse in Hosea chapter four, verse six, where we are

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Speaker 1: told that my people perish for a lack of knowledge.

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Speaker 1: you or your child may have some serious medical issues

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Speaker 1: that are merely being medicated by modern conventional medicine. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the root goes undiagnosed. Well, not after today. So with

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Speaker 1: that said, let's jump right in. Dr. Callie Hale, welcome

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Speaker 1: to Christian Parent Crazy World. I'm so glad to have

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Speaker 1: you here today.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. It's such an honor to be on

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Speaker 2: your show. We have so many good things to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: I am too. Today we're going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: something every parent will encounter at some point in life

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Speaker 1: that is helping our kids to face things that scare them.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes that's a trip to the doctor or the dentist

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Speaker 1: or the orthodontist. Sometimes it's a diagnosis or a procedure

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's simply hearing something. from an authority figure that

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Speaker 1: same time. I've got stories. I'm sure you do too.

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Speaker 1: our listeners to get to know you a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You are a dentist, you're an author, a speaker, and

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Speaker 1: you've built much of your career around helping people get

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Speaker 1: And I'm very curious, was there a particular experience that

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Speaker 2: the beginning. I come from a family of dentists. So

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Speaker 2: me was, you know, God just leads you to where

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Speaker 2: what I did do in the beginning. I was fortunate

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Speaker 2: program that I did to be able to help patients

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about root cause and really understanding what

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Speaker 2: what the last 10 years has looked like for me,

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Speaker 2: but I have thrown myself in to education for sleep apnea, orthodontics,

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Speaker 2: and I don't practice anymore, which is crazy. Like I'm

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Speaker 2: side knee to knee dentistry, as we say, is now

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Speaker 2: loved talking to patients. I love talking to people in general.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, let me help you. Let me learn from you.

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Speaker 2: Let me talk to you. And now I'm doing that

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Speaker 2: in ways through the providers that I've hired at my

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Speaker 1: Okay. There's so much to dig into here. And I

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Speaker 1: was just explaining to my regular listeners. No, he has

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Speaker 1: we're just two weeks into our house here in Nashville

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Speaker 1: my husband and I, he's the 11 year old. Same thing. So, okay,

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to all this. We're going to

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Speaker 2: Yes, I know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Let's pause for a minute there because what

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way we do things. And why is

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Speaker 1: it that I've gone to all of these orthodontic appointments

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Speaker 1: So, so something's going on here. But one of your

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Speaker 1: is that your tagline or your motto or your slogan,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Why is this such a passion for you? Why

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Speaker 2: Well, when I was in dental school, like I told you,

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Speaker 2: we were not taught early intervention orthodontics at all. You

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Speaker 2: certainly wouldn't put braces on a kid under age 16.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't, you certainly wouldn't do anything at age three

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Speaker 2: or four. And that was, that's just like not taught

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Speaker 2: So when I actually went back to school, traveled to

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Speaker 2: God laughs at me a little bit because he's like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: I had this whole plan for you. Because I remember

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Speaker 2: getting on the plane to fly to the seminar weekend

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Speaker 2: that was all on peds. And I remember going like,

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Speaker 2: I just got to check this off the list. Like I,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's required. I have to do it. But

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Speaker 2: And I got there and I listened to one of

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Speaker 2: my mentors and now dear friends talk on pediatric obstructive

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Speaker 1: has to do with mental and spiritual and emotional balance

433
00:21:39,290 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: as well. All of these things are connected. And you

434
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Speaker 1: said you you made a bold statement there. that you

435
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,700
Speaker 1: see crooked teeth and that glaring sign, that check engine

436
00:21:49,740 --> 00:21:53,020
Speaker 1: light right there is one of the most critical signs

437
00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:55,530
Speaker 1: that we can see as parents in terms of their

438
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,810
Speaker 1: overall wellbeing. Absolutely.

439
00:21:58,369 --> 00:22:00,129
Speaker 2: Just that alone. A hundred percent.

440
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Speaker 1: Okay. Unpack that a little bit and tell us what

441
00:22:03,369 --> 00:22:06,710
Speaker 1: tooth pillow is and how it helps to correct that.

442
00:22:06,770 --> 00:22:08,010
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why I built it.

443
00:22:08,090 --> 00:22:08,330
Speaker 1: Yes.

444
00:22:08,970 --> 00:22:12,389
Speaker 2: So with tooth, With your, think about the foundation on

445
00:22:12,430 --> 00:22:14,450
Speaker 2: your house. You want a nice, thick, strong foundation to

446
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,540
Speaker 2: support everything, right? When you have, your teeth are in bone,

447
00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:19,340
Speaker 2: your teeth are in a foundation. Hopefully they got a

448
00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:20,979
Speaker 2: lot of healthy bone around them and you don't have

449
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 2: gum disease or anything and they're going to stay around.

450
00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: When they're crooked, it means that they don't have room, right?

451
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: We can think about it like that. Like where are

452
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,500
Speaker 2: they supposed to fit? So as a child, when you're growing,

453
00:22:31,540 --> 00:22:33,460
Speaker 2: you can expand your palate. You can also do it

454
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:35,310
Speaker 2: as an adult surgically, but as a child, you can

455
00:22:35,330 --> 00:22:37,810
Speaker 2: do it very minimally evasively because your body's in a

456
00:22:37,890 --> 00:22:42,350
Speaker 2: growth state. Your tongue is your natural palate expander, which

457
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:45,350
Speaker 2: people don't realize. So we ignore tongue ties. We don't

458
00:22:45,390 --> 00:22:47,030
Speaker 2: even know how to check for them if we aren't

459
00:22:47,109 --> 00:22:50,090
Speaker 2: trained and looking for them. And maybe you struggled to

460
00:22:50,109 --> 00:22:51,770
Speaker 2: breastfeed and nobody ever looked at that either. And you

461
00:22:51,790 --> 00:22:54,130
Speaker 2: thought it was you. And maybe it was because you

462
00:22:54,150 --> 00:22:56,300
Speaker 2: maybe had tongue tie and it couldn't latch well or whatever.

463
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,500
Speaker 2: So when you're thinking about crooked teeth, you're thinking about

464
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: why is their mouth too small? Are dental x-rays like

465
00:23:02,420 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: the bane of your existence when you go to the

466
00:23:04,180 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: dentist because that sensor is too big?

467
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Speaker 1: All of that.

468
00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: So the connection I like to make for people is

469
00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: that the roof of your mouth, like how do we

470
00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: connect crooked teeth to sleep and breathing? Okay, that's what

471
00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:18,070
Speaker 2: I want to connect. And it's that the roof of

472
00:23:18,109 --> 00:23:21,310
Speaker 2: your mouth is actually the floor of your nose. So

473
00:23:21,450 --> 00:23:24,669
Speaker 2: the wider your palate, the wider your nasal passages and

474
00:23:24,690 --> 00:23:26,310
Speaker 2: the easier you'll be able to get air in when

475
00:23:26,330 --> 00:23:30,210
Speaker 2: you're exercising and living and running and sleeping. You should

476
00:23:30,250 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: be able to have your lips closed all night while

477
00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: you're sleeping with your tongue up. Always, always your tongue

478
00:23:34,619 --> 00:23:36,780
Speaker 2: should be up and you should be breathing through your nose.

479
00:23:37,330 --> 00:23:39,270
Speaker 2: So nasal breathing is one of the most important things

480
00:23:39,290 --> 00:23:41,780
Speaker 2: that I tell parents. If your child struggles to nasal breathe,

481
00:23:42,130 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: you have to turn no stone unturned to fix that

482
00:23:45,140 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: while they're little. Like they have to be obligate nasal breathers, period.

483
00:23:49,700 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: We cannot let them go from elementary school to middle

484
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,100
Speaker 2: school to high school, not breathing through their nose. So

485
00:23:56,140 --> 00:23:57,379
Speaker 2: we have two things. You've got to be able to

486
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,380
Speaker 2: breathe through your nose and you've got to have room

487
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: for your teeth. So if you have crooked teeth or

488
00:24:01,510 --> 00:24:03,290
Speaker 2: you have allergies or you have an inability to breathe

489
00:24:03,310 --> 00:24:06,610
Speaker 2: through your nose, those are linked. And that's like another

490
00:24:06,670 --> 00:24:09,710
Speaker 2: sign that you should see an airway dentist like right

491
00:24:09,730 --> 00:24:12,350
Speaker 2: away to make sure that you can start making things wider.

492
00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:15,990
Speaker 2: So those are the more like technical, I would say

493
00:24:16,170 --> 00:24:20,830
Speaker 2: skeletal dental things. When it comes to symptoms, we talked

494
00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:23,310
Speaker 2: about tooth grinding. We talked about snoring. We didn't talk

495
00:24:23,330 --> 00:24:25,169
Speaker 2: a lot about mouth breathing, but mouth breathing is one

496
00:24:25,210 --> 00:24:27,010
Speaker 2: of the most dangerous forms of breathing you can do.

497
00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:28,689
Speaker 2: You actually get more oxygen to your brain when you

498
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:29,730
Speaker 2: breathe through your nose and into your mouth.

499
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,540
Speaker 1: Okay.

500
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:33,699
Speaker 2: So we don't want to mouth breathe. We don't want

501
00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:35,899
Speaker 2: to snore. We don't want to grind our teeth. If

502
00:24:35,940 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: you see shiners like dark circles under the eyes on

503
00:24:38,380 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: your kiddos, not normal. That is a big sign that

504
00:24:41,260 --> 00:24:43,220
Speaker 2: they didn't sleep all night. You've seen it on yourself.

505
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,070
Speaker 2: I'm sure too. I did during maternity leave or whatever. Bedwetting.

506
00:24:48,090 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: Bedwetting is a hush hush topic, especially when your kid's

507
00:24:51,180 --> 00:24:55,070
Speaker 2: five or nine or 12. That is heavily linked to

508
00:24:55,109 --> 00:24:57,730
Speaker 2: obstructive sleep apnea. So remember the spectrum we talked about.

509
00:24:58,130 --> 00:25:00,310
Speaker 2: Now we're getting towards like the other side of it

510
00:25:00,430 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: because we've got your body is now unable to hold

511
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,379
Speaker 2: urine like it should because of what's happening to your

512
00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: oxygen in your sleep at night. So those are some

513
00:25:09,859 --> 00:25:12,820
Speaker 2: of the biggest, I would say. And the ones that

514
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,810
Speaker 2: I kind of like my top five that I tell

515
00:25:14,830 --> 00:25:18,150
Speaker 2: parents to make sure is not happening ever for your child.

516
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Speaker 2: By the time the grinding's so loud, it sounds like

517
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,580
Speaker 2: construction or deconstruction, as you said, which I loved.

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00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,020
Speaker 1: Yes.

519
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,980
Speaker 2: It is your body's way of doing what we like

520
00:25:27,020 --> 00:25:30,300
Speaker 2: to explain as self-CPRs. If you've ever been a CPR certified,

521
00:25:30,340 --> 00:25:31,979
Speaker 2: you know you want to do a head tilt, chin lift,

522
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: and you want to bring that jaw forward to open

523
00:25:34,619 --> 00:25:37,540
Speaker 2: your airway. So what we have seen on sleep studies,

524
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,980
Speaker 2: like when you go in lab and they hook you

525
00:25:39,050 --> 00:25:41,369
Speaker 2: up to all the things and you sleep there, is

526
00:25:41,420 --> 00:25:45,310
Speaker 2: that when that patient stops breathing because their tongue blocks

527
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:49,020
Speaker 2: the back of their throat... the bruxing the grinding is

528
00:25:49,060 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 2: what happens in order for them to clear their airway

529
00:25:54,580 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: so it's never okay to do the tooth pillow is

530
00:25:57,660 --> 00:26:00,699
Speaker 2: a go-to immediate for any of my patients that are

531
00:26:00,869 --> 00:26:03,570
Speaker 2: young and growing that are grinding their teeth it's like

532
00:26:03,730 --> 00:26:05,770
Speaker 2: you're leaving with this today like i will not let

533
00:26:05,790 --> 00:26:07,930
Speaker 2: your child go home again and not have something that's

534
00:26:07,950 --> 00:26:11,650
Speaker 2: going to protect their airway while they're sleeping so The

535
00:26:11,730 --> 00:26:15,530
Speaker 2: Tooth Pillow is actually just a name that I came

536
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:17,869
Speaker 2: up with for what looks like a mouth guard. And

537
00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:20,910
Speaker 2: we use a couple of different brands for the company.

538
00:26:20,930 --> 00:26:21,570
Speaker 1: Okay.

539
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:26,570
Speaker 2: There's all sorts of different brands of these appliances. We

540
00:26:26,609 --> 00:26:31,969
Speaker 2: call them guided growth appliances or habit corrector appliances or

541
00:26:32,130 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: myofunctional appliances because they help with like muscles and breathing.

542
00:26:36,340 --> 00:26:40,810
Speaker 2: Tooth Pillow was... created by two of my closest friends

543
00:26:40,869 --> 00:26:43,290
Speaker 2: who brought me in and said, we need to bring

544
00:26:43,330 --> 00:26:45,129
Speaker 2: this to the masses. And it was just one of

545
00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:48,350
Speaker 2: those things where I had, I had fear personally when

546
00:26:48,369 --> 00:26:51,090
Speaker 2: we first started talking about it. Cause I just thought, man,

547
00:26:51,369 --> 00:26:54,540
Speaker 2: the dentists around me are going to just be irate

548
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: that I would be promoting something like this, you know,

549
00:26:57,859 --> 00:27:02,300
Speaker 2: that they don't understand. And I didn't care though about

550
00:27:02,340 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: that truly at the end of the day, because I

551
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,580
Speaker 2: had already helped thousands of patients in my private practice.

552
00:27:06,619 --> 00:27:09,140
Speaker 2: And I knew that, that this problem was so much

553
00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: bigger than me. And that if I could get with

554
00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:15,139
Speaker 2: the best of the best and we could create a

555
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,940
Speaker 2: company that had dentists in every state willing to help

556
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,470
Speaker 2: me screen these kids and get them into offices that

557
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:25,689
Speaker 2: they didn't qualify for virtual care or qualify for virtual

558
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:27,649
Speaker 2: care and bring it right to their doorstep in the

559
00:27:27,690 --> 00:27:31,750
Speaker 2: middle of Indiana or Kentucky or Massachusetts, where there is nobody. Hmm.

560
00:27:32,570 --> 00:27:35,290
Speaker 2: And I knew that I could take photos and intakes

561
00:27:35,410 --> 00:27:38,260
Speaker 2: and sleep questionnaires and everything I needed. And these moms

562
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: would send me pictures and send me everything to be

563
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: able to say, yes, your child is approved for virtual treatment.

564
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:47,740
Speaker 2: I can help them from afar, or this is really severe.

565
00:27:48,050 --> 00:27:50,450
Speaker 2: This is the person you need to go see because

566
00:27:50,490 --> 00:27:54,750
Speaker 2: I have that at all. And that was where Toothpillow

567
00:27:54,770 --> 00:27:56,830
Speaker 2: was born because Toothpillow is just a cute name. I

568
00:27:56,850 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: always told my patients like, you need a pillow for

569
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,350
Speaker 2: your teeth. Like, isn't that great? You love your pillow.

570
00:28:01,390 --> 00:28:02,470
Speaker 2: Now you have a pillow for your teeth and it

571
00:28:02,490 --> 00:28:05,410
Speaker 2: gets them all excited. And so we started this company,

572
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:07,209
Speaker 2: like literally there was, it was like five of us

573
00:28:08,430 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: and somebody posted about us and we went viral like overnight.

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00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: We had over like 1800 submissions within like a week

575
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: or something like that.

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00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: I bet you did.

577
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,939
Speaker 2: Gosh, yes, we did. It almost crashed our system, but

578
00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:22,460
Speaker 2: we just pulled late nights and everybody got it done.

579
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,190
Speaker 2: And my team at Toothpillow like gets all the glory truly.

580
00:28:25,550 --> 00:28:27,889
Speaker 2: I am just the messenger of this amazing information, but

581
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: It has been a journey. We have over 13,000 children

582
00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: now that we have treated virtually with our platform. And

583
00:28:36,940 --> 00:28:40,940
Speaker 2: we have screened over 30,000 kids. So there are so

584
00:28:41,050 --> 00:28:43,670
Speaker 2: many out there. When I go through these submissions, it

585
00:28:43,710 --> 00:28:46,830
Speaker 2: brings tears to my eyes. I'm reading moms pour their

586
00:28:46,890 --> 00:28:50,230
Speaker 2: heart on paper to a stranger. I am a stranger

587
00:28:50,290 --> 00:28:53,390
Speaker 2: to that. They don't know me, but they know that

588
00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:55,490
Speaker 2: I have devoted my life to making sure that if

589
00:28:55,550 --> 00:28:56,650
Speaker 2: I can't help your kid, I'm going to help you

590
00:28:56,690 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: find somebody who can. And I'm reading medications these kids

591
00:29:00,020 --> 00:29:05,110
Speaker 2: are being put on for ADHD, ODD, even bedwetting. There

592
00:29:05,170 --> 00:29:07,989
Speaker 2: are literal medications to help kids stop bedwetting. You talk

593
00:29:08,010 --> 00:29:11,070
Speaker 2: about getting the root cause. What are we talking about?

594
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:15,330
Speaker 2: We have to stop medicating our kids for being tired.

595
00:29:15,370 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: But when you don't even link the things that their

596
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: symptoms are with teeth, how do you even know?

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Speaker 1: do it alone. Yeah, well, case in point here, because

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Speaker 1: I've been with my kids. We get our regular checkups

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Speaker 1: every six months at the dentist. And if they did

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Speaker 1: ask if my kids grind their teeth, I don't recall. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: if they did ask, we didn't follow it up with

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Speaker 1: any kind of corrective measure or suggestion. So that didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I just went in with my

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Speaker 1: son to get him checked out for, you know, he's 11,

622
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Speaker 1: almost 12. And, you know, looking at that point for

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Speaker 1: orthodontic care to, you know, to correct the symptom being

624
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,030
Speaker 1: the crooked teeth instead of really getting to the root cause.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, he's the one. in a hotel room

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00:31:15,370 --> 00:31:17,770
Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago, I'm like, what is

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Speaker 1: going on in this kid's mouth? And of course for

628
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Speaker 1: the past year, and I didn't realize because you see, I,

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Speaker 1: I grinded my teeth. Right. And so I'm very curious.

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Speaker 2: It's normal for you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right. Oh, it's just normal. And so I had to get,

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Speaker 1: you know, the molds done and my teeth. I can

633
00:31:32,980 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: remember when I was younger in my twenties, I got

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00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: married and I, you know, I had the, these things

635
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Speaker 1: that I put in my mouth that were so uncomfortable

636
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,810
Speaker 1: at night. And I would just, I would wake up

637
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Speaker 1: the next morning that was supposed to help with teeth grinding.

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Speaker 1: This was 30 years ago. Okay. So it's been, it's

639
00:31:49,670 --> 00:31:51,390
Speaker 1: been a long time. I'm sure that what you're doing

640
00:31:51,410 --> 00:31:53,530
Speaker 1: now is a lot better, but these things like I

641
00:31:53,570 --> 00:31:55,030
Speaker 1: would wake up, I would go to sleep with them

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00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:57,530
Speaker 1: in my mouth. I'd wake up and I'm like, where

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00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:59,030
Speaker 1: are they? I don't know.

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00:31:59,050 --> 00:32:02,340
Speaker 2: And I would find them taking the guards out.

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Speaker 1: Not only was I taking them out, I was throwing

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Speaker 1: them because I would find them in the corner of

647
00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: the room because I hated apparently I was throwing them

648
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,470
Speaker 1: and get this, get this Callie. One time, so I

649
00:32:13,490 --> 00:32:15,150
Speaker 1: would usually find them over in the corner of the

650
00:32:15,210 --> 00:32:17,850
Speaker 1: room or something the next day. One time I couldn't

651
00:32:17,890 --> 00:32:20,700
Speaker 1: find them, like days and weeks go by. I can't

652
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: find the mouth guard. Where is the mouth guard? Finally,

653
00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:27,180
Speaker 1: I'm looking for something underneath my bed, my big bed,

654
00:32:27,310 --> 00:32:30,690
Speaker 1: my queen size bed. It's in the center of underneath

655
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:32,290
Speaker 1: the bed. I'm like, I meant to get rid of

656
00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:32,930
Speaker 1: it this time.

657
00:32:33,410 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: This time I was really, I'm so sorry.

658
00:32:37,740 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: So at that point the thing went in the garbage

659
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,510
Speaker 1: and you spent like a ton of money on this.

660
00:32:43,180 --> 00:32:45,820
Speaker 1: And it wasn't working. So I'm sure that what the product,

661
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's come a long way. What you've developed now,

662
00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:51,300
Speaker 1: especially for kids called a pillow, because this was not

663
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,860
Speaker 1: a pillow. This felt more like a tooth rock. That's

664
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:59,510
Speaker 1: what I had. It was not a pillow. But anyway,

665
00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:02,450
Speaker 1: so what you're talking about, I'm like, my heart is

666
00:33:02,510 --> 00:33:06,170
Speaker 1: breaking because I didn't know Callie. I didn't realize. First

667
00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:08,390
Speaker 1: of all, that my kids were grinding their teeth until

668
00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:10,590
Speaker 1: more recently, because, you know, you're not in the same

669
00:33:10,670 --> 00:33:13,930
Speaker 1: room where, you know, we live in homes that have

670
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: multiple rooms. We're blessed that we're not all in a one.

671
00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: It's not Little House on the Prairie where, you know,

672
00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: the kids are like right over there in the other corner.

673
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: We don't... really know sometimes that a kid is grinding

674
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,300
Speaker 1: their teeth or has a problem and like me completely

675
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,740
Speaker 1: ignorant that okay this is much bigger problem than just

676
00:33:33,070 --> 00:33:37,250
Speaker 1: deconstruction in their mouth it's it's it's a clue it's

677
00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:39,930
Speaker 1: a sign that there's a bigger problem going on here

678
00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:42,990
Speaker 1: that needs to be corrected and why is it well

679
00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:45,070
Speaker 1: we could spend all day there we could talk about

680
00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:46,969
Speaker 1: the product which i think is much more interesting but

681
00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:49,130
Speaker 1: i just it honestly i was getting ticked off when

682
00:33:49,150 --> 00:33:51,580
Speaker 1: you were talking because i'm like My kids have been

683
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,460
Speaker 1: to professionals with orthodontic care. My kids have been in dentistry.

684
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,070
Speaker 1: We haven't neglected that. And nobody connected the dots because

685
00:34:00,090 --> 00:34:00,530
Speaker 1: there's so much.

686
00:34:00,550 --> 00:34:03,110
Speaker 2: And that's where dentistry is failing. That is where we're failing.

687
00:34:03,170 --> 00:34:06,270
Speaker 2: We failed you because if you think about it, I

688
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: wasn't trained on this either. I had to spend $ 50, 000

689
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:12,430
Speaker 2: for this residency to learn about obstructive sleep apnea. that's

690
00:34:12,450 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: a whole nother problem. When you think about the cost

691
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,580
Speaker 2: that it takes to go off and specialize in something

692
00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:19,580
Speaker 2: when this should be the cornerstone of the foundation of

693
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 2: dental school training. And it is not, it's not. So,

694
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: so our kids are good. Our grandkids are going to

695
00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 2: have grandkids before this is common. I think truly. And well,

696
00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: I'm trying to change that with tooth pillow because I'm like,

697
00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:32,460
Speaker 2: I've learned that if I can go straight to the

698
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:38,780
Speaker 2: moms with symptom resolution and photos, proof that they are like,

699
00:34:38,860 --> 00:34:41,430
Speaker 2: sign me up. Like, yes, I want my kid to

700
00:34:41,469 --> 00:34:43,410
Speaker 2: have this help because I had to do that. I

701
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:44,770
Speaker 2: had to go to social media. I had to, I

702
00:34:44,890 --> 00:34:46,690
Speaker 2: had to turn the account into something that was going

703
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:49,029
Speaker 2: to be an educational platform for families so that they

704
00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:51,780
Speaker 2: would be able to go and get an honest opinion.

705
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: Because the problem is, is you go to somebody, a

706
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: very well-meaning dentist. I pulled teeth for braces.

707
00:34:57,540 --> 00:34:57,820
Speaker 1: Okay.

708
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,859
Speaker 2: I did the cardinal sin that I look at now

709
00:34:59,910 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: and think, oh my goodness, And so I remember what

710
00:35:02,780 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: it was like to think that, oh, yeah, the orthodontist

711
00:35:05,340 --> 00:35:06,700
Speaker 2: asked me to pull the teeth, so I will pull

712
00:35:06,739 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: the teeth. It's like this pass-through of this patient, and

713
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,940
Speaker 2: it's like, who's actually looking at the body as a whole?

714
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: And when I realized that nobody, and nobody was taking accountability,

715
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,420
Speaker 2: that I realized a general dentist and a pediatric dentist, really,

716
00:35:19,989 --> 00:35:23,590
Speaker 2: are the two most profound branches in dentistry to be

717
00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:25,890
Speaker 2: able to take care of this and really screen for it.

718
00:35:26,570 --> 00:35:28,189
Speaker 2: Because we see it all the time. I saw patients

719
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:30,350
Speaker 2: every six months too, never once. I remember the very

720
00:35:30,370 --> 00:35:34,339
Speaker 2: first guy, adult, that I treated and cured of obstructive

721
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,780
Speaker 2: sleep apnea. Severe. Stopped breathing 47 times an hour. Severe. Thin.

722
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:40,550
Speaker 1: 6'2.

723
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't fit a body type of sleep apnea. Like we're

724
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: taught in like you're obese and the CPAP thing, right?

725
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 2: Like didn't have a clue, but he was grinding his teeth.

726
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:51,980
Speaker 2: He'd have root canals, crowns. I keep patching teeth and

727
00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: making stuff. I'm just going about.

728
00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: It, right?

729
00:35:55,380 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: And I screen him. I screen him. And I am

730
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,230
Speaker 2: literally floored that he is so severe. His oxygen level

731
00:36:02,270 --> 00:36:04,890
Speaker 2: is getting into the 70s. Who else would have found

732
00:36:04,969 --> 00:36:06,390
Speaker 2: out on this guy before he had a heart attack?

733
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:11,010
Speaker 2: And that's why I train dentists every single week. Literally,

734
00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:15,379
Speaker 2: I have a massive educational platform for dentists because I'm like,

735
00:36:15,739 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 2: you guys got to wake up and y'all got to

736
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,899
Speaker 2: start helping these families. Because if you don't, who will?

737
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:27,250
Speaker 2: Because orthodontics is way too far behind. Traditional orthodontics isn't

738
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:29,110
Speaker 2: going to get you any sort of airway care. The

739
00:36:29,150 --> 00:36:32,910
Speaker 2: American Academy of Orthodontists is actually very against having a

740
00:36:32,969 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: place in airway. It is sad. I don't even want

741
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,020
Speaker 2: to drag you through the politics of it. It's just

742
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: absolutely a waste. And the only people suffering are the people.

743
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: Right. Like, are the patients. And us.

744
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:48,550
Speaker 2: Yes, of course. Like they think they're getting whatever everybody

745
00:36:48,590 --> 00:36:50,140
Speaker 2: else is getting. So you go to the orthodontist, you

746
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,779
Speaker 2: get braces and you got straight teeth. And we all,

747
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: and I think as the consumer, as a parent, as

748
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: a non-dentist, you think it's all the same. Unfortunately, it's not.

749
00:36:58,969 --> 00:37:00,650
Speaker 2: And who you go to matters. I got a guy

750
00:37:00,670 --> 00:37:02,190
Speaker 2: in Nashville. You are going to be hooked up. I'm like,

751
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:05,030
Speaker 2: you got to go. I personally mentor him. He's actually

752
00:37:05,170 --> 00:37:08,150
Speaker 2: outside of Nashville. He is wonderful. And you've got to

753
00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:08,509
Speaker 2: go see him.

754
00:37:09,090 --> 00:37:12,790
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, definitely that's going to happen. But you just

755
00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:16,770
Speaker 1: mentioned crowns. Like the number of crowns I have personally

756
00:37:17,230 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: worn through. I can't even tell you. I've swallowed them. No,

757
00:37:20,969 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm not. I've got one in the back of my

758
00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:28,300
Speaker 1: mouth that we've had it replaced yesterday. three, four times.

759
00:37:28,460 --> 00:37:31,230
Speaker 1: One time I swallowed it and then they had to,

760
00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:35,549
Speaker 1: and they cost a ton of money. And then, I mean,

761
00:37:35,570 --> 00:37:37,810
Speaker 1: I've lived without one for a while. It got to

762
00:37:37,830 --> 00:37:40,350
Speaker 1: the point where the dentist was like, if it comes

763
00:37:40,410 --> 00:37:42,420
Speaker 1: off again, you probably just need to live without it.

764
00:37:42,910 --> 00:37:47,140
Speaker 1: So obviously from my youngest to To my oldest, I mean,

765
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: I can tell you stories I'm sure that you could

766
00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: have prevented from happening. My son, my son, my oldest son,

767
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,830
Speaker 1: he is now in college. I'll never forget. Like, so

768
00:37:55,969 --> 00:37:58,069
Speaker 1: his mouth development, like you said, we just didn't even

769
00:37:58,110 --> 00:38:00,450
Speaker 1: look into it as he was growing up. I don't

770
00:38:00,489 --> 00:38:02,390
Speaker 1: know if he was grinding his teeth. I can't tell you,

771
00:38:02,410 --> 00:38:04,290
Speaker 1: but I can tell you this. When we finally got

772
00:38:04,330 --> 00:38:06,549
Speaker 1: around to what the typical age is, you go to

773
00:38:06,590 --> 00:38:09,770
Speaker 1: your orthodontist, what, 11, 12, to see what we're going

774
00:38:09,790 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: to do about the crooked teeth. And I can remember.

775
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,379
Speaker 2: Which is too late. Right?

776
00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: It's too late.

777
00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:15,420
Speaker 2: Yes.

778
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,020
Speaker 1: And so he was, this was one of the most

779
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: terrifying experiences for him and for me. He had a

780
00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:21,660
Speaker 1: bit of an overbite.

781
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,060
Speaker 2: Okay.

782
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: I didn't look severe to me, but you could kind

783
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,980
Speaker 1: of tell it wasn't really unattractive or anything. I figured

784
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: it was probably correctable. That's how my thinking was. We

785
00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:34,529
Speaker 1: go into this orthodontist office. He gets the x-rays. He

786
00:38:34,590 --> 00:38:38,149
Speaker 1: comes in and bedside manner, like was the worst ever.

787
00:38:38,510 --> 00:38:42,620
Speaker 1: He literally looks at us and he says, okay. this

788
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,660
Speaker 1: is not going to be treatable with an appliance. We're

789
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 1: going to have to, if you really want to correct

790
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,180
Speaker 1: his overbite, we're going to have to break his jaw,

791
00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: saw it in half. We're going to have to wire

792
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: it back together and he'll have to, you know, eat

793
00:38:53,380 --> 00:38:54,060
Speaker 1: through a straw.

794
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,859
Speaker 2: This is how he's explaining this.

795
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:58,790
Speaker 1: Yes. With my son right there, like right there. And

796
00:38:58,910 --> 00:39:01,190
Speaker 1: my son's eyes are as big as saucers and I'm

797
00:39:01,250 --> 00:39:05,290
Speaker 1: sitting here going, shut up. My kid is going to

798
00:39:05,330 --> 00:39:09,549
Speaker 1: have nightmares. It was so horrific. And I was so

799
00:39:09,770 --> 00:39:13,230
Speaker 1: angry at this man because he terrified my son. And

800
00:39:13,489 --> 00:39:15,859
Speaker 1: we ended up going, we found a different orthodontist that

801
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,220
Speaker 1: was able to help and correct it. Is it perfect? No,

802
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,859
Speaker 1: but he looks great. He's a very attractive kid.

803
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 2: And didn't have to have his jaw broken.

804
00:39:23,540 --> 00:39:25,230
Speaker 1: Oh, no, he didn't have to have his jaw broken

805
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:27,130
Speaker 1: and saw in half. And mind you, at the time,

806
00:39:27,210 --> 00:39:29,970
Speaker 1: this kid was like a beanpole. Like he would turn sideways.

807
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: and you couldn't see him. And like, you're going to

808
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: put him on a liquid diet for three months. Yeah.

809
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,900
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

810
00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:39,330
Speaker 1: All together. Anyways, the point is that's the sort of

811
00:39:39,390 --> 00:39:43,509
Speaker 1: thing I'm sure if you're, you're cognizant at a very

812
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:47,690
Speaker 1: young age of your child's mouth development and the I

813
00:39:47,730 --> 00:39:50,610
Speaker 1: encourage all parents, go into your kid's room at night.

814
00:39:51,150 --> 00:39:52,190
Speaker 1: Just listen.

815
00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:52,750
Speaker 2: That's what I say.

816
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:56,660
Speaker 1: Listen to their breathing. Because I can remember actually a

817
00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:59,060
Speaker 1: couple of instances where I was putting clothes away. And

818
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,779
Speaker 1: I think I remember going in there and I'm like,

819
00:40:01,820 --> 00:40:04,420
Speaker 1: I think he's grinding his teeth. I'm not sure. This

820
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: is my 11-year-old, the one who's now 11. But you're

821
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:10,450
Speaker 1: not in there. They went to bed, you know, and

822
00:40:10,510 --> 00:40:13,489
Speaker 1: so you're giving them their privacy and their time to sleep,

823
00:40:13,530 --> 00:40:17,450
Speaker 1: but you don't know they're having a problem. They're doing mouth.

824
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: They're having mouth breathing. They're grinding their teeth. These are

825
00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: all major symptoms that unfortunately your regular dentist and your

826
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: regular orthodontist are not. trained to really screen for or

827
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: to get to the root problem of. They're just going

828
00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:34,820
Speaker 1: to correct the crooked teeth so you can take a

829
00:40:34,860 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: nice picture and be on your merry way. And then

830
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,150
Speaker 1: you can be like me in your 50s having to

831
00:40:40,170 --> 00:40:43,870
Speaker 1: get Invisalign and address a mouth that's not developed properly.

832
00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:47,910
Speaker 2: Yes. Way too late in life. Yes, absolutely. You are 100% right.

833
00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:49,569
Speaker 2: And that's the heartbreaking thing of it. And I think

834
00:40:49,590 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: that's what has created such distrust in medicine already. I

835
00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: think medicine is ahead of us in the distrust with

836
00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:58,790
Speaker 2: the way the last 10 years have gone. But, and

837
00:40:58,810 --> 00:41:01,190
Speaker 2: we know that not every doctor is created the same.

838
00:41:01,210 --> 00:41:04,490
Speaker 2: Not every doctor thinks the same. There is no reason

839
00:41:04,510 --> 00:41:06,770
Speaker 2: to put dentists in any other category. We are not

840
00:41:06,810 --> 00:41:08,770
Speaker 2: all the same. We don't have all the same training.

841
00:41:08,830 --> 00:41:11,469
Speaker 2: We don't have all the same opinions. We definitely, I

842
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:15,149
Speaker 2: have a very different opinion on orthodontics than most orthodontists

843
00:41:15,230 --> 00:41:17,339
Speaker 2: out there. And I have some dear friends who are

844
00:41:17,550 --> 00:41:22,340
Speaker 2: orthodontists who are airway trained and they are unstoppable. They're

845
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,010
Speaker 2: incredible people. And they will be the first to tell you, yeah,

846
00:41:26,090 --> 00:41:28,589
Speaker 2: our residency sucks. They don't talk about this stuff. Like

847
00:41:28,610 --> 00:41:30,230
Speaker 2: the only reason I was exposed to is because I

848
00:41:30,270 --> 00:41:33,150
Speaker 2: had a mentor or whatever. Like it's every same story,

849
00:41:33,469 --> 00:41:37,070
Speaker 2: which means the majority of children, the majority of children

850
00:41:37,150 --> 00:41:39,469
Speaker 2: are having orthodontic treatment done way too late in life

851
00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:42,890
Speaker 2: without airway in mind and on they go. And then

852
00:41:42,910 --> 00:41:45,110
Speaker 2: they turn 30 or 40 and they start having symptoms,

853
00:41:45,530 --> 00:41:47,969
Speaker 2: but nobody's relating it back to their braces. Why would

854
00:41:47,989 --> 00:41:49,570
Speaker 2: they ever go back to thinking, oh yeah, when I

855
00:41:49,590 --> 00:41:51,569
Speaker 2: was 12 and my parents put braces on me, oh,

856
00:41:51,590 --> 00:41:54,049
Speaker 2: this is why I have tachycardia or this is why

857
00:41:54,070 --> 00:41:55,930
Speaker 2: I have hypertension. Like my blood pressure is kind of

858
00:41:55,950 --> 00:41:57,489
Speaker 2: high now. Or like, this is why I don't sleep

859
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:59,710
Speaker 2: through the night very well. They're not thinking about their

860
00:41:59,730 --> 00:42:03,029
Speaker 2: braces when that's exactly what they should be thinking about

861
00:42:03,350 --> 00:42:04,830
Speaker 2: is what is, what is the size of my jaws

862
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:06,690
Speaker 2: and how do I breathe? And do I have sleep apnea?

863
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:09,770
Speaker 2: And so for me, just the idea and the knowledge

864
00:42:09,850 --> 00:42:12,690
Speaker 2: now that it can be prevented a hundred percent.

865
00:42:12,730 --> 00:42:13,029
Speaker 1: It can.

866
00:42:13,110 --> 00:42:15,310
Speaker 2: The good news is, is it also can be cured.

867
00:42:15,610 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: They can't. And we don't promise we cure everybody, of course,

868
00:42:19,590 --> 00:42:22,270
Speaker 2: but like there are some very obvious things that adults

869
00:42:22,330 --> 00:42:25,310
Speaker 2: need if they are diagnosed with sleep apnea. And you

870
00:42:25,350 --> 00:42:28,210
Speaker 2: start fixing those things and you start watching the magic happen.

871
00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:31,090
Speaker 2: So Toothpillow is designed for parents to be able to

872
00:42:31,110 --> 00:42:34,450
Speaker 2: go in and have their child screened for $ 0. It

873
00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:37,270
Speaker 2: still does not cost a dime to submit your child

874
00:42:37,310 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: for an assessment. You are going to literally get an

875
00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:44,980
Speaker 2: opinion from an airway dentist from Toothpillow before you ever

876
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: spend a dime And they're going to either tell you,

877
00:42:47,739 --> 00:42:51,500
Speaker 2: you got to go in office for expanders because it's critical.

878
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,020
Speaker 2: Like right now at 12, you need to get in

879
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,299
Speaker 2: there with upper and lower expanders, or we can treat

880
00:42:57,340 --> 00:42:59,709
Speaker 2: you virtually and you can start with.

881
00:42:59,630 --> 00:43:10,430
Speaker 1: Us right now. OK, so what does this look like

882
00:43:10,489 --> 00:43:13,170
Speaker 1: practically then? So you said we can do this. You

883
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:16,650
Speaker 1: can do it virtually or you I'm sure you're associated

884
00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:19,470
Speaker 1: with a lot of dentists, orthodontists across the country who

885
00:43:19,540 --> 00:43:22,140
Speaker 1: you could maybe go in for an in-person screening. So

886
00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: how do you go about finding out which which route

887
00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:26,700
Speaker 1: to go and what does that?

888
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,940
Speaker 2: Well, you have to be screened. So you go to

889
00:43:28,980 --> 00:43:32,350
Speaker 2: Toothpillow.com and you're going to click. It's all the buttons

890
00:43:32,410 --> 00:43:34,570
Speaker 2: are obvious. And it says, is my child a candidate?

891
00:43:34,590 --> 00:43:35,890
Speaker 2: Because that's the first thing you need to know is,

892
00:43:35,950 --> 00:43:37,969
Speaker 2: is my child a candidate to wear a Toothpillow? And

893
00:43:37,989 --> 00:43:39,690
Speaker 2: you'll click that and you do need to have your

894
00:43:39,710 --> 00:43:41,290
Speaker 2: child present with you. We're going to ask you a

895
00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:42,950
Speaker 2: bunch of questions. I need you to tell me everything

896
00:43:42,969 --> 00:43:44,009
Speaker 2: you would tell me if we were sitting in an

897
00:43:44,050 --> 00:43:48,009
Speaker 2: office together. I need to know medical history, dental history, symptoms.

898
00:43:48,070 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: How are they sleeping, breathing? We have a bajillion questions.

899
00:43:50,420 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: And then we're going to ask you to take pictures

900
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: of your child. And you're going to take these photos

901
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: of their teeth, of their face, of their profile. I

902
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: want to see what their jaw looks like, all of

903
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: the things. And that's going to get submitted. And the

904
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:04,460
Speaker 2: state level dentist that we have hired for that state

905
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,670
Speaker 2: is going to review it. And they're going to review

906
00:44:06,730 --> 00:44:08,669
Speaker 2: it and they're going to tell you yes or no.

907
00:44:09,150 --> 00:44:11,029
Speaker 2: You'll either get an email that says your child has

908
00:44:11,050 --> 00:44:14,010
Speaker 2: been approved for treatment. Here's some information on how the

909
00:44:14,010 --> 00:44:16,930
Speaker 2: 24 month program works, or you need to schedule a

910
00:44:16,930 --> 00:44:18,500
Speaker 2: call with us and we're going to help you find

911
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: a dentist because you've got like, this is too severe

912
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: to just be able to wear a mouth guard, AKA

913
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: a tooth pill. So we have before and afters on

914
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,460
Speaker 2: our website. We spend a tremendous amount of money trying

915
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,049
Speaker 2: to educate through our website. We do webinars. We do

916
00:44:33,090 --> 00:44:34,930
Speaker 2: all sorts of things to try to get parents the

917
00:44:34,989 --> 00:44:39,250
Speaker 2: best information that we can. And I recommend everybody, I mean,

918
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:42,030
Speaker 2: it's literally free. Like everybody should have the child screened first.

919
00:44:42,450 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: Even as you're making decisions, who to see and who

920
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:46,500
Speaker 2: to do or whatever you want to do, you need

921
00:44:46,540 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: to get multiple opinions. And Toothpill is the easiest way.

922
00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:54,709
Speaker 1: To do that. Wow. Okay. Because I mean, I know.

923
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: I know because of the tooth grinding, we've got a

924
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,070
Speaker 1: much bigger problem with Seegers 4 and 5. And honestly,

925
00:45:03,130 --> 00:45:06,130
Speaker 1: Seegers 1, 2, and 3, I'm going to be sneaking.

926
00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:09,149
Speaker 1: I've got a 16-year-old. She's already done her orthodontic care.

927
00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:11,609
Speaker 1: Her teeth are straight now, but that doesn't mean we're

928
00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:15,450
Speaker 1: all fixed, right? Just because we got the teeth straight. Absolutely.

929
00:45:15,810 --> 00:45:18,010
Speaker 2: There could be other issues. There is an age limit

930
00:45:18,050 --> 00:45:21,410
Speaker 2: for virtual care, I should say. We screen 3 to 12.

931
00:45:21,410 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: So for your 16 year old, I'll tell you who

932
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:25,660
Speaker 2: you got to go see outside of Nashville because I

933
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: personally mentor him and he's wonderful. And he will measure

934
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,739
Speaker 2: her and tell you because we can't get, we don't

935
00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:32,540
Speaker 2: want to guess. There should be no guessing. We need

936
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,660
Speaker 2: to assess her. She's had braces.

937
00:45:34,730 --> 00:45:35,010
Speaker 1: Great.

938
00:45:35,390 --> 00:45:37,170
Speaker 2: I don't care. I want to look and see, does

939
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:39,210
Speaker 2: her tongue fit in her mouth? Does she need any

940
00:45:39,350 --> 00:45:42,430
Speaker 2: exercises for her tongue? Does she have a tongue tie?

941
00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:44,589
Speaker 2: Like these are all the things at 16 you can

942
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:46,950
Speaker 2: still correct. It's not too late and you need to

943
00:45:46,989 --> 00:45:51,969
Speaker 2: find out. So absolutely. We'll make sure she's taken care of. Oh, wow.

944
00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:55,379
Speaker 1: This has been so educational.

945
00:45:55,450 --> 00:45:55,819
Speaker 2: And you.

946
00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, because my teeth are a hot mess

947
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: right now. It's like it was just the bottom one

948
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: for a while, you know, and that kind of my

949
00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: the way my mouth is shaped. You don't really notice it,

950
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:07,700
Speaker 1: but I'm starting to notice it more and more with

951
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: my top teeth. So, yeah, I want to see what's

952
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: going on in my mouth and make sure that we

953
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: figure out the best way to get that corrected. Because honestly,

954
00:46:16,140 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: my biggest concern personally at the moment is kind of cosmetic.

955
00:46:19,660 --> 00:46:22,580
Speaker 1: But let me rephrase that. That has been my biggest

956
00:46:22,620 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: concern because I didn't really connect it to anything else.

957
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:28,850
Speaker 1: How is this affecting my sleeping? How is this affecting

958
00:46:28,890 --> 00:46:31,589
Speaker 1: my airway? My husband tells me sometimes he hears me

959
00:46:31,730 --> 00:46:33,930
Speaker 1: snoring at night and sometimes I hear him snoring too.

960
00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:40,500
Speaker 1: He snores more. But, you know, you're not thinking, you know,

961
00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: a lot of times you're not thinking that that tooth

962
00:46:42,739 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: grinding or that snoring or whatever is really a much

963
00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: bigger problem.

964
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,220
Speaker 2: It's a much bigger problem as you get older. It's

965
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,379
Speaker 2: a very serious thing.

966
00:46:50,940 --> 00:46:54,220
Speaker 1: And are we getting proper rest? Rest is so important.

967
00:46:54,260 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: I just did a couple of episodes and it was

968
00:46:56,300 --> 00:46:58,940
Speaker 1: so fascinating to me. It was on Sabbath and how

969
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:04,180
Speaker 1: we're designed, how we're designed by God. Yes. To need rest.

970
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: We work from rest. We're supposed to be working from

971
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: a state of rest. And yet here we are spending

972
00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: however many hours a night in a bed trying to rest.

973
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,890
Speaker 1: Are we really resting? And what is that rest looking

974
00:47:15,930 --> 00:47:18,830
Speaker 1: like for kids, for us? Are we really getting rested?

975
00:47:18,969 --> 00:47:22,029
Speaker 1: And what other kind of problems are stemming from the

976
00:47:22,090 --> 00:47:27,569
Speaker 1: fact that that eight hours hours of time, hopefully, that

977
00:47:27,610 --> 00:47:30,790
Speaker 1: we're spending in bed, is it really restoring our bodies?

978
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,180
Speaker 1: Is it really restoring our souls and our minds? Maybe not.

979
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,020
Speaker 1: And so these are some of the biggest signs. Okay.

980
00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: So if you had just a couple of things, maybe

981
00:47:41,170 --> 00:47:43,730
Speaker 1: one or two things that you would leave parents with

982
00:47:44,270 --> 00:47:47,870
Speaker 1: after this conversation, what are your top things that you

983
00:47:47,890 --> 00:47:51,609
Speaker 1: would want them to remember after this conversation, given what

984
00:47:51,650 --> 00:47:54,090
Speaker 1: your life's passion is and how you're really kind of

985
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:57,730
Speaker 1: fighting against an industry that has just been built up

986
00:47:57,850 --> 00:48:02,379
Speaker 1: like kudzu with all that's treating symptoms instead of getting

987
00:48:02,420 --> 00:48:05,060
Speaker 1: to root causes. What would you, what, what's your best

988
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:05,860
Speaker 1: advice for parents?

989
00:48:06,540 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: My biggest advice is first and foremost, you're doing the

990
00:48:08,620 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: best you can as a mama. So do not be

991
00:48:10,420 --> 00:48:13,620
Speaker 2: hard on yourself with all the decisions you have to make. Yeah. My,

992
00:48:13,860 --> 00:48:16,020
Speaker 2: my critical thing that I want people to remember is, um,

993
00:48:17,530 --> 00:48:21,509
Speaker 2: Orthodontics matters very, very early in life. And whatever you've

994
00:48:21,550 --> 00:48:25,450
Speaker 2: been taught or told or remember from your own childhood

995
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: or your parents, what they thought about it, please challenge

996
00:48:29,340 --> 00:48:32,580
Speaker 2: the narrative. Challenge whatever notions you have that races are

997
00:48:32,620 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: really not important and you don't need to do it

998
00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:38,020
Speaker 2: because you don't, that's not true. And you need to

999
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: unlearn whatever you have learned in that regard because it

1000
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: really does determine the rest of your life. in your

1001
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,379
Speaker 2: child's life. It truly does. And get second opinions and

1002
00:48:48,460 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: know that whoever you choose to do your child's orthodontic treatment,

1003
00:48:52,580 --> 00:48:55,180
Speaker 2: that that is probably the most critical decision you will

1004
00:48:55,219 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: make as a parent in their growth and development. And

1005
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,420
Speaker 2: so you need to be confident and trust that person.

1006
00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: Ask them if they know anything about airway, ask them

1007
00:49:05,340 --> 00:49:09,330
Speaker 2: their philosophy on treatment. Do they offer sleep studies? I mean,

1008
00:49:09,350 --> 00:49:11,810
Speaker 2: we are literally doing sleep studies, home sleep studies in

1009
00:49:11,850 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 2: my brick and mortar offices in Texas. And we're about

1010
00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:15,180
Speaker 2: to start offering sleep studies virtually.

1011
00:49:15,739 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: We are.

1012
00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:19,830
Speaker 2: Because if you're not looking at their orthodontic and pre-decision.

1013
00:49:20,380 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: around how you do their ortho based on how they

1014
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: sleep and breathe, then you're kind of just guessing, lining

1015
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,020
Speaker 2: up teeth. So it's really, really critically important that their

1016
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,100
Speaker 2: airway be assessed and be part of the conversation before

1017
00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:35,180
Speaker 2: you make any decisions.

1018
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,090
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I love probably of everything you said,

1019
00:49:42,130 --> 00:49:44,670
Speaker 1: I love challenge the narrative because that's what we do

1020
00:49:44,750 --> 00:49:47,430
Speaker 1: on the show and so many areas, so many areas.

1021
00:49:47,450 --> 00:49:50,390
Speaker 1: Let's challenge the narrative. What is our culture saying? What

1022
00:49:50,450 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: is the medical establishment saying? What are other parents saying?

1023
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,660
Speaker 1: Sometimes we need to challenge the narrative in our churches

1024
00:49:57,780 --> 00:50:02,500
Speaker 1: and with our own bringing, let's always challenge the narrative

1025
00:50:02,540 --> 00:50:04,660
Speaker 1: and let's get back to root causes. That's what I

1026
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,730
Speaker 1: love about our faith is that God is all about

1027
00:50:07,770 --> 00:50:10,110
Speaker 1: getting to the root of problems. I can remember, I

1028
00:50:11,090 --> 00:50:15,230
Speaker 1: talked earlier about that issue I'd had with depression and anxiety.

1029
00:50:15,390 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: And when I went to the conventional medical approach, all

1030
00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:23,060
Speaker 1: the psychologists and psychiatrists wanted to do was get out

1031
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: the pad, get out the pad and write the prescription.

1032
00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: So did some of the doctors. Like I said, that

1033
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,980
Speaker 1: one doctor looked at me and said, if you, if

1034
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: you don't want this pill, I can't help you. They

1035
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,980
Speaker 1: didn't want to get to the root cause. And so,

1036
00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:36,590
Speaker 1: what I'm so grateful for is that our faith and

1037
00:50:36,650 --> 00:50:40,130
Speaker 1: our heavenly father, who's the great physician, he, that's not

1038
00:50:40,170 --> 00:50:42,469
Speaker 1: good enough for him. And that's not good enough for us.

1039
00:50:42,510 --> 00:50:43,790
Speaker 2: Yeah. A hundred percent.

1040
00:50:44,489 --> 00:50:46,590
Speaker 1: It's not good enough. He is going to get to

1041
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:49,339
Speaker 1: the root cause because he knows what he knew, what

1042
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:52,020
Speaker 1: was at the root cause of all of that, that

1043
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,620
Speaker 1: was feeding a Seth's pool of I'll be at the

1044
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,430
Speaker 1: ADHD challenging kind of brain chemistry that our world isn't

1045
00:51:00,450 --> 00:51:02,850
Speaker 1: designed for. But once we got to the root cause,

1046
00:51:03,330 --> 00:51:06,270
Speaker 1: the other was manageable. And getting to the root causes,

1047
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:11,090
Speaker 1: once you get to that root cause, the rest becomes manageable.

1048
00:51:11,230 --> 00:51:13,550
Speaker 1: And our guide is all about getting to root causes,

1049
00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:16,370
Speaker 1: as are you, which is a beautiful thing. I cannot

1050
00:51:16,830 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: thank you enough for first and foremost. I know you're

1051
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: educating my whole audience, but thank you for educating me, Callie.

1052
00:51:23,060 --> 00:51:26,420
Speaker 1: Cause I really didn't know. I really didn't know that

1053
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,989
Speaker 1: this was, I mean, I knew it was something, but

1054
00:51:29,050 --> 00:51:31,069
Speaker 1: here are all of the medical professionals in my life

1055
00:51:31,090 --> 00:51:34,029
Speaker 1: that should be guiding me towards a solution or at

1056
00:51:34,070 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: least telling me this is a, this is a bigger problem.

1057
00:51:37,650 --> 00:51:40,450
Speaker 1: asking the right question for heaven's sake, just ask me

1058
00:51:40,469 --> 00:51:43,609
Speaker 1: the right question. Yes. We weren't getting there, but now

1059
00:51:43,810 --> 00:51:46,830
Speaker 1: I realize, and I, I'm definitely, I can't wait to

1060
00:51:46,850 --> 00:51:48,310
Speaker 1: get my assessment. Seriously.

1061
00:51:48,489 --> 00:51:51,100
Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to feel better too.

1062
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,379
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for all of us. So for parents

1063
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: who want to learn more about what you're doing and

1064
00:51:56,980 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: about Toothpillow, tell them where, where do they go to

1065
00:51:59,540 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: find out more?

1066
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,500
Speaker 2: Sure. So our Toothpillow Instagram is Toothpillow underscore official.com. My

1067
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: Instagram is theairwaycentereddentist, all spelled out. And we are constantly

1068
00:52:10,739 --> 00:52:14,549
Speaker 2: educating on those platforms. The Toothpillow website is toothpillow.com. That

1069
00:52:14,590 --> 00:52:16,130
Speaker 2: is where you can submit your child for an assessment.

1070
00:52:16,810 --> 00:52:19,150
Speaker 2: And if you need anything, it is easy to get

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Speaker 2: my social media. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: You just mentioned before the show we were talking and

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Speaker 1: And now that I have this little studio downstairs, maybe

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Speaker 1: next time you're in Nashville, we can do one in person.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to. Oh, my gosh. You say

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Speaker 2: when and I'll come.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that'll be awesome. And here's the best part about Toothpillow.

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Speaker 1: www.toothpillow.com backslash CPCW. Callie. Thank you so much for being

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: We are kindred spirits.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I know your passion to get to root causes and

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Speaker 1: to make sure that one of the most important things

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Speaker 1: we have, that's the foundation for everything is that rest

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Speaker 1: that we get at night. And like I said, I

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Speaker 1: just did this incredible series with Dr. Steve Hall from

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Speaker 1: designed by God to work from rest. not rest from work.

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Speaker 1: We're supposed to work from rest, but the foundation of

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Speaker 1: our rest is compromised at night if we don't have

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Speaker 1: proper breathing, proper airwaves, and the symptoms that you've mentioned

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Speaker 1: so perfectly here today show us if that's not working

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Speaker 1: for us, then the whole foundation is compromised. And so

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Speaker 1: we may not be resting well, our kids may not

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Speaker 1: be resting well, and that can cause a whole host

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Speaker 1: of other problems. It could be something so simple as

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Speaker 1: an airway, right?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for educating me today and all of

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Speaker 1: my listeners. I can't wait to find out myself. I'm

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Speaker 1: signing up. I'm going to go for an in-person and

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Speaker 1: next time you're in Nashville, you'll come by my home studio.

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Speaker 2: I would love to. Yes. Well, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for having me. It was a pleasure and I hope

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Speaker 2: everybody got something out of this.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they did. I know that I did. So

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Speaker 1: God bless. I hope this conversation encourages you to look

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Speaker 1: a little deeper, to not always settle for treating the

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Speaker 1: symptom when there may be a root cause underneath it.

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Speaker 1: That applies not only to our physical health, but to

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Speaker 1: so many areas of life. There are root issues in

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Speaker 1: our culture. There are root issues in our thinking, root

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Speaker 1: issues in our relationships, and root issues in our children's hearts.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes the wisest thing we can do as parents

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Speaker 1: is to slow down, to ask better questions, to pray

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Speaker 1: a lot, And to seek understanding about what's really going

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Speaker 1: on beneath the surface. Because getting to the root can

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Speaker 1: change everything. And as always, remember, God gave you your kids,

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Speaker 1: your specific kids, for a reason. That's because you hold

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Speaker 1: the key to unlocking who God created them to be.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Christian Parent Crazy World is

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