1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Ammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Transgenderism America and North America and frankly the Western world 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: for that matter. We are currently having a great societal, 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: perhaps even civilizational reckoning with transgenderism. 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Make no mistake about it. 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: For decades, according to the DSM, essentially the Bible for 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: the psychiatric profession as published by the APA the American 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Psychiatric Association, for decades, gender dysphoria was listed as a 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: mental illness that was only changed over the past ten years. 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Ten to fifteen years, it solely started to phase out 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: and out, and now according to the psychiatry dot org website, 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: which is again in his website for the American Psychiatric Association, 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: at this point, gender dysphoria is no longer listed as 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: a mental illness, but it is something a little bit 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: more ano done. At the same time, as we covered 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: on our show last week, as this trendsmen happening in 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: the psychiatric profession, there are now some wins happening in 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: the other direction. There are now some tailwinds, some momentum 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: on the side of civilizational sanity and some headwinds on 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: the side of civilizational arson. For instance, There was this 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: recent court case that we covered on this show out 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: of New York States, the first successful medical malpractice lawsuit 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: in the entire history of transgender related medical malpractice lawsuits. 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: For the very first time, a so called de transitioner, 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: someone who was a biological female who thought that getting 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: a double messectomy at the age of sixteen, listening to 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: her psychiatrists, to her doctor, thought that. 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: This would be a good idea. 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: She was scarred physically and emotionally, and she was awarded 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: by a court in New York State last month with 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: two million dollars in damages. It was the first successful 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: medical menpractice lawsuit. And right after that you had the 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: American Medical Association, you had various other medical groups, the 34 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Plastic Surgeon Association, the Pediatric Association, all followed a SAP. 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: But we need to get back to a point, folks, 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: where we recognize that the DSM had it right for 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: years and years. 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: It is not enough. 39 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: It is not enough simply to say that we are 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: not going to blanket recommend that you engage in chemical 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: castration or gentle mutilation. That's the stands now that the 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: AMA that the plastic surgeons in this and the pediatrics 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: have taken after this medical maprous lawsuit. After all, if 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: you make them feel the financial pain, they're going to 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: get in line. So they're now saying that we're not 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: going to we're not going to recommend necessarily. It's not 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a one size fits all, one stop shop 48 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: solution for you to go ahead and chop off mister 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: winkiwink or to chop off your breasts. 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: But you discussed with the doctor and you figure it out. 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: But that's not gonna cut it. 52 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: We do have to get back to the traditional decades 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: long understanding under the DSM that gender dysphoria is best 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: characterized as a mental illness. And just the latest example 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: of this coming in tragic, horrific fashion this week in 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: a tiny, tiny town out in rural British Columbia. So 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how well this audience necessarily knows it's 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Canadian geography, but British Columbia the westernmost province there in Canada, 59 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: some six hundred miles northeast of Vancouver, the big city 60 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: on the Pacific Ocean. There in British Columbia, six hundred 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: miles northeast towards the Birder the border with Alberta. You 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: have a very small town called tumble Ridge and tumble Ridge, 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: British Columbia. Earlier this week the site of just the 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: latest mass shooting committed by a transgender individual. It's actually 65 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: the third deadliest shooting in Canadian history. Began a Tuesday 66 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: in this tiny, tiny town. Approximately twenty seven hundred people 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: give or take live there. You had a biological male 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: who stopped me if you've heard the story before, a 69 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: biological male who began quote unquote transitioning over the past 70 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: few years, was these days going as quote unquote Jesse 71 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: Jesse van Rutsolar. Well, mister van Rutzlar had had numerous 72 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: encounters with the police, with mental health officials. There very 73 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: much was on the radar of the authorities, both from 74 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: a law enforcement and from a mental health profession. So 75 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: earlier this week you had mister van Rutzlar who went 76 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: ahead and murdered his mother, horrible holes of his murder, 77 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: and his stepbrother and then proceeded to kill six people 78 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: at this school in Tumblebridge, British Columbia. And look, a 79 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: lot of the story has has honed in on the 80 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: totally botched or at least shall we say, highly politicized 81 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: response from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, otherwise known in 82 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: colloquial terms as the Mounties. The Mounties are which are 83 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: essentially the federal police in Canada, the rough analog to 84 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: the FBI, kind of sort of it's not personalogy that 85 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: they're kind of the equivalent there. They've long been addle 86 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: brained by a liberal mind virus Canada. 87 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: It's been this for a very long time. 88 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: Was a pearly kept secret until Donald Trump burst the 89 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: secret down to the open Canada is substantially politically to 90 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: America's left. There were very obscure reasons historically why that's 91 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: the case there, it's. 92 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: Not really worth getting into it. 93 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: But Canada, based on a political left right axis, is 94 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: substantially to America's left, and many folks were really highlighting 95 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: the fact that the Mounties were tripping over themselves. In fact, 96 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: there was a neologism, a new word that was added 97 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: to our lexicon this week where the Mounties spoke of 98 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: gun persons, not a gunman or a gun woman, but 99 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: gun persons. Yes, that is the extent to which the 100 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: oral Connadian mental please went above me on to try 101 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: to obscure the transgender nature. Here's actually one clip of 102 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: how the Mountees have just been totally totally botching this 103 00:05:58,720 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: from the get. 104 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: Go, all around the world of reports coming up with 105 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: the media. 106 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: Look for the world and for people who tell. 107 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: Me rich actual people as a the shooter, and they 108 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: are all saying that this person is transgender. 109 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Why is the RCPO speakers is why are we hiding this? 110 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: Folk? 111 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 4: Help? 112 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: Well? 113 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: First off, thank you for your question. We're not hiding it. 114 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 5: In fact, you're the first media to ask the question. 115 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 5: I will say this, we identify the suspect as they 116 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 5: chose to be identified in public and in social media. 117 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 5: I can say that Jesse was born as a biological 118 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: male who approximately the information that I have, approximately six 119 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 5: years ago, began to transition to female and identified as 120 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 5: female both socially and publicly. 121 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, we've hearn a lot of transgender dispascas. 122 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: Do you think as a correlation here. 123 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 5: It's too early to say whether that has any correlation 124 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: in this investigation. I think it's important to recognize that 125 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 5: this investigation is still in its infancy. We have seen 126 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 5: still locked down the school and the residents while we 127 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 5: execute search warrants and gather for their evidence and talk 128 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 5: to witnesses that may have for their evidence. 129 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: For place, folks, it's really not that complicated. 130 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: If gender dysphoria is what the DSM said it was 131 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: for decades, if it actually is a mental illness, and 132 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: to be very clear, we'll stipulate the obvious here. We 133 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: have compassion here on this show for those mental illness. 134 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: I know many people in my own life who have 135 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: a mentalness. It's terrible, it's absolutely horrible. You have immense 136 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: compassion people Historically in the fifties sixty seventies, when you 137 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: diagnose genessphoria, they really thought that they were born in 138 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: the wrong body. And there's all sorts of counseling that 139 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: you can talk to them to try to try to 140 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: encourage them to if they're a man, to really embrace 141 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: their manliness, if there are a woman's really embraced, if femineities, 142 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: all sorts of counseling, psychiatric and psychological guidance that. 143 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: Can be done there. 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that you bestow legitimacy upon the lie 145 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: to to say that the lie that a man can 146 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: become a woman or woman can come to say that 147 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: is real. That's a big, big, big difference. And because 148 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: this is a mental illness, it logically follows that those 149 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: who are who have mental illnesses probably should not be 150 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: around lethal firearms. You would probably say the same thing 151 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: about a schizophrenic or about anyone else who has a 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: DSM recognized mental illness. This is obviously hardly the first time, 153 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: for those of you who've been paying at all attention 154 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: recent years, hardly the first time of a high profile 155 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: act of transgender violence in America. In March twenty twenty three, 156 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: at the Covenant School, the Christian school in Nashville, Tennessee, 157 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: Audrey Hall, the transgender shooter, went ahead and shot up 158 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: the school in which he had been raised, murdered six 159 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: people that day in Nashville, Tennessee. Recall the lengths which 160 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: authorities seemed to try to hide the manifesto, A manifesto 161 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: large Swathswiss have subsequently been divulged to the public via 162 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: people like Stephen Crowder via the Daily Mail and other 163 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: sources as well, and the manifesto from that day confers 164 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 1: confirms that Audrey Hal sought to seek revenge on the Christians, 165 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: on Christianity's religion that told him that he could not 166 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: be a sheet. In fact, in the middle of that shooting, 167 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: Audrey Hall runs to the church next door, before continuing 168 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: the rampage inside the school the adjoining church and shoots, 169 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: shoots at the stained glass on the window of the 170 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: church at Abraham like the original patriarch, the original monotheist. 171 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: Can you think of anyone more symbolic to shoot up 172 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: than that you're trying to shoot in this case metaphorically Monotheism, 173 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: in this case really Christianity before denying your ability to 174 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: be transgender. It's deeply harrowing stuff. We saw it yet 175 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: again just a few months agoing in August, so prior 176 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: to the Somali fraud scandal, prior to the Tom Homan 177 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: versus Tim Walls and Jacob Fry's immigration surge scandal and 178 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: all that. Prior to all that, there was a terrible 179 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: shooting in Minneapolis in August at a Catholic church, at 180 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: a Catholic school by a transgender individual, where similarly we 181 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: saw the heroing notebook manifesto, similarly evincing anti Christian animis 182 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: and bigotry. For that matter, look no further than the 183 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: assassination of my late friend Charlie Kirk Charlie Kirk was 184 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: murdered on September tenth, twenty twenty five, by an individual 185 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: who was in a transgender relationship, by an individual who 186 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: waited until Charlie was saying exactly what I am saying now, 187 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: talking about transgender violence. Charlie was answering a question about 188 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: transgender violence when this individual who we will not name, 189 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: pulled the trigger and fatally lethally wounded my friend Charlie Kirk. 190 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: He was in a trensender relationship and deliberately shot him 191 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: when Charlie was talking about transgender violence. So I don't 192 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: want to hear this lie, this gaslighting that there's no 193 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: correlation between the historic mental illness of genders and violence. 194 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: There is probably a historic correlation between most DSM recognized 195 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: mental illnesses and violence. Jennertus Foria in this case is 196 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: no different whatsoever. So now, while we are continuing this 197 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: social momentum, we have this huge million dollar medical minropractice 198 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: loss of victory in New York State. We have the 199 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: AMA and various other medical associations that are now finally, 200 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: finally not bestowing universal in promotori's legitimacy upon chemical castration 201 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: and gentle mutilation for minors. Finally, is it too much 202 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: to ask that we don't crack down necessarily on guns. 203 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: The time is not now for gun control. The time 204 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: now is for trands control. And that means beginning by 205 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: recognizing this yet again is as the DSM set for 206 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: decades it was in mental illness. 207 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: Folks, to stay with us. We'll be right back much 208 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: more on the other side. Welcome back. 209 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: So explosive stuff you say on Capitolhill, the Attorney General 210 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: of the United States getting grilled by many Democrats, a 211 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: lot of people crapping on the train journal. I happen 212 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: to think that she did a pretty darn good job. Frankly, 213 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: she's done a very darn good job this WHO administration. 214 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: And more on that in just a second there. 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More 240 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: than almost any other of the Trump cabinet picks, Pam 241 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: Bondy has really been taking incoming and taking incoming, not 242 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: merely from the left, which is to be expected, but 243 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: taking incoming really from the right in a way that 244 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: I have frankly been caught off guard by at times. Now, 245 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: some of this is focused on the Epstein saca. Not 246 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: all of it is, but some of it is definitely 247 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: focused on Epstein. And to be sure, we've been very 248 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: candid on this show that the Epstein handling has not 249 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: been this administration's finest hour. At this point, they're doing 250 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: all they can to turn over millions of documents there 251 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: and to comply with the law that Congress passed there. 252 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: Clearly the rollout should have been handled better. Frankly, for 253 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: years and years and years, far too many in both 254 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: the Republican e lefted official class and the conservative influencer 255 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: class pedaled this notion there was this massive, massive mass 256 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: of international sex conspiracy, that there was a literal physical 257 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: list that would go ahead and uncover there. 258 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: And that was never going to be the case. 259 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So the whole Epstein saga to me has been 260 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: just a lot of podcast bros trying to make you 261 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: livid and to increase your pulse and your blood pressure, 262 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: all for no actual pot of gold. At the end 263 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: of the rainbow. There's a thing called Statute of limitations 264 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: on all these various crimes that took place two decades 265 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: or more ago. I want to see political accountability just 266 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: like you. But again, at this point, thedministration is turning 267 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: over millions of documents, so what is out the more 268 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: do you want from them? 269 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: Now? 270 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: Yes, they had this hearing, it got pretty feisty. We 271 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: recently showed you this clip of Treasury Secretary Scott Besson 272 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: when he was on Capitol Hill test playing on the 273 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: Senate side. He got into it quite a bit with 274 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: Senator Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas from the Conwealth of Massachusetts. The 275 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: comming from the Collinwealth's case. Maybe so Scott Besson was 276 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: getting into with Elizabeth Warren and various other Democrats. There's 277 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: a pan Bondy was very much getting into it. There 278 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: at times a pretty fiery and combative exchanges here, for instance, 279 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: here was this exchange between the Attorney General and Becca Balynch, 280 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: who was a Democratic congresswoman from Vermont. 281 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: Go ahead and watch. 282 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: Those na's Merrit Garland anything about Epstein, not once when 283 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 4: he was Exhaus. And also I want the record to 284 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: reflect that, you know, with this anti Semitic culture, right now. 285 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: She voted against a resolution contempt condemning. 286 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: Oh clear, do you want to go there? Attorney General? 287 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: Do you want to go there? 288 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: Are you, gentlemen talking about a woman who lost her grandfather? 289 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 5: Time the committee talk to Jared Wise about anti Semitism? 290 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: The ranking member, No, I'm gonna Can I get like 291 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: thirty seconds back? 292 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 5: You know? 293 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been okay. 294 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: So, first of all, not how I congressman ought to 295 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: comport herself. Second of all, Pam BONDI can talk about 296 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: anti Semitism to whoever she darn well pleases, Thank you 297 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: very much. This DOJ has been the greatest defender of 298 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: Jewish civil rights, has been the greatest defender of Jewish 299 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: civil rights, the greatest defender of American Jews and their 300 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: religion institutions and so forth in general. 301 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? 302 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Of course they have Harmi Dillon, the head of DOJ 303 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: Civil Rights, Leo Terrell, who is the DOJ essentially anti 304 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: endy Semitism envoy. Harmy Dillon and Leo Tourell are doing 305 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: yeomen's work. They're trying to award Leoterrell with a prize 306 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: in Israel for becoming one of the greatest spokespeople for 307 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: the Jewish people all throughout the world. He's there in 308 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: pam Bond. They's doj So Pimbonni can talk about this 309 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: stuff to whoever the heck she wants. 310 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: To talk about. 311 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: And by the way, the fact that this woman tragically 312 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: had grandparents perish, murdered by the Nazis and the Holocaust 313 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: does not give her the unquestioned moral authority to not 314 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: take hey for any previous votes that she's taken on 315 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: these matters. So a total, just absolute red herring there. 316 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: PIMBONDI got getting into it as well. Actually with Jamie Raskin, 317 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: I particularly enjoyed this one. Jimmie Raskin is an absolute 318 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: reprobrate to a congressman from Maryland, go ahead and watch 319 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: this exchange. 320 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 4: And none of them, none of them, ask Merrick Garland, 321 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: over the last four years, one word about Jeffrey Epstein. 322 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 4: How ironic is that? You know why? Because Donald Trump 323 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: the doo the doo right now is over. The Dow 324 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: is over fifty thousand dollars. I don't know why you're lauding. 325 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: You're a great stock trader. As I hear Raskin, the 326 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: Dow is over fifty thousand right now, the S and 327 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: P at almost seven thousand, and the NASDACS smashing records. 328 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 4: Americans four oh one k's and retirement savings are booming. 329 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: That's what we should be talking about. We should be 330 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 4: talking about making Americans safe. We should be talking about 331 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: what does a DOW have to do with anything? That's 332 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 4: what they just ask, Are you kidding? 333 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about making Americans safe. This has been 334 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: our thesis when it comes Epstein. By the way, for 335 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: the entire time. The reason Democrats are so fixated on Epstein. 336 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: Donald Trump kick Jeffrey Epstein out of mar A Lago. 337 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: He reported on Epstein and Maxwell to the Palm Beach 338 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: County sheriff. Donald Trump's distancing himself from Epstein bonafidees are unquestioned. 339 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: The only reason that Democrats are on this story is 340 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: to try and distract you from what's really happening. You see, 341 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: it's all these information hoaxes, it's Epscene, it's his affordability hooks. Well, 342 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: Pam Bondy talking about keeping Americans safe. Let's talk about 343 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: keeping Americans safe. Recent data out of Washington, DC shows 344 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: that homicides are down in incredibly an incredibly impressive number. 345 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: The month of January just according the lowest homicides in 346 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: the nation's capital in decades, In absolute decades, the National 347 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: Guard is doing wonders in the nation's capital. Violent crime 348 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: down more than thirty percent. In DC, homicides down sixty percent, 349 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: nine hundred and seventeen guns seized off the streets illegal 350 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: guns for that matter. There outside WASHINGTONC. This story is 351 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: actually the exact same thing. This conation is currently experiencing 352 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: the lowest homicide rates since the McKinley administration. Yeah, William 353 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: McKinley not to namy here every day. He was tragically assassinated, 354 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: and then Teddy Roosevelt was sworn in as a very 355 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: young president. America currently has the lowest murder rate since 356 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: nineteen hundred one and a quarter centuries ago. That is 357 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: pretty much right in DOJ's wheelhouse. The National Guard operation 358 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: in Washington, you see, and decreasing violent crime. This is 359 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: the number one thing that the Department of Justice ought 360 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: to be doing, is protecting you. Again, this Epstein stuff 361 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: is just such a it's such a distraction in so 362 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: many ways. We all want justice, but why are you 363 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: losing so much attention on the day to day things there, 364 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: like the economy, like the turn Drell said, the crime rates. 365 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: That's what we care about on the show. We're policy driven, 366 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: we're data driven. I mean, what just one more data here. 367 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 1: This is a little more DHS than DOJ. But I mean, 368 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: I have a migrant encounters at the US Mexico border. 369 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: Pew Research reporting just last week migrant encounters at the 370 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: US Mexico border have fallen to their lowest level in 371 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: fifty years. Fifty five zero Border Patrol recorded two hundred 372 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: and thirty seven and change thousand encounters in the twenty 373 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: twenty five fiscal year as the lowest since nineteen seventy 374 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: the Nixon administration. I mean, this is astounding stuff. Border security, 375 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: crime in DC, homicides, folks. This DJ is racking on 376 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: wins the Supreme Court. What is the issue? I want 377 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: my turning General to punch back against Democrats who harasser 378 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. I want all my campics to fight back. 379 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: And she's try about Epstein two. It's a dodge. Don't 380 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: fall for the bait. Don't take it. You're smarter than that, folks. 381 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: Stay with us in this side. We'll be right back 382 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: with much more welcome back. So I had a really 383 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: nice time last night up in pom Beach at the 384 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: Real Clear Gala. So Real Clear Politics, you likely know, 385 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: is an arrogation website where they host a lot of articles. 386 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: You frequently hear about the Real Clear Politics polling average. 387 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: They're one of the first pioneers in the media age. 388 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: It's actually the twenty fifth anniversary this year. So congratulations 389 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: certainly to Real Clear Politics. And they're won the pioneers 390 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: of the aggregation agglomeration polling aggregates. That's kind of their 391 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: bread and butter. So I went to the gala last 392 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: night in Palm Beach. I was there a couple of 393 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: years ago as well, and they just debuted. It was 394 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: two or three years ago. They just started giving out 395 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: this big annual prize and it's a free speech prize. 396 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: So Real Clear. 397 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: If you look at who actually who runs it, and 398 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: this is not this is all public, this is not 399 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: like Prime Information. The folks who run and are involved 400 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: with Real Clear tend to be right of center. Certainly 401 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: that the folks who run it are definitely on the 402 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: right right half of the American political spectrum. But the 403 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: publication itself, the articles that they aggregate there, they're very 404 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: much trying to do in all the above all sides things. 405 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: It's actually very similar, frankly, to what the task was 406 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: of the Newsweek Opinion section, the news Week op ed 407 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: page when I served as a pen editor there for 408 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: three years from May twenty twenty to May twenty twenty three. 409 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: I am an unabashed conservative, as you know by listening 410 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: watching the show, But my task when I ran the 411 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: opet page at a Newsweek before transitioning into my term role, 412 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: my task was to try to compile, along with my 413 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: deputy editors, the best views from all across the ideological spectrum. 414 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: And that's roughly what Real Clear tries to do as well, 415 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: even though the folks who run it behind the scenes 416 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: and publicly are for the most part, if not the exclusive, parts, 417 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: on the right half of the political spectrum. So because 418 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: of this of this mission, because this mission of ideological 419 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: diversity and trying to bring all the best viewpoints together, 420 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: that they're really really big on free speech. 421 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 2: And their big. 422 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: Annual prize is essentially a it's a free speech prize. 423 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: It's names the Samizot Prize and Samizot it's kind of 424 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: an old Soviet term. It referred to certain types of 425 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: dissident activity during the Cold War throughout the Eastern Bloc. 426 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: Think about Eastermany Poland, things like that there where they 427 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: were essentially doing underground dissemination of otherwise censored material. So 428 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: the Samizop Prize that the Real Clear gave out last 429 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: night at the Gallum Pond Beach is an ode to 430 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: free speech. And I was there the Galla a couple 431 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: of years ago when they gave the award to Miranda Divine, 432 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: who famously helped expose the Hunter Biden laptop from hell. 433 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: Matt Taibi was a winner at that same gal a 434 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. So last night's recipients were three individuals. 435 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: And the recipients of the Real Clear Samiza Prize at 436 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: their twenty twenty six Gallop were Alan Derschwitz, Graham Lenihan 437 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: and posthumously Charlie Kirk. So Alan Derschwitz was there the 438 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: award on his behalf. I actually was sitting at Professor 439 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: Dershwitz's table. I've known Professor Dertchwitz for some years now. 440 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: I actually debated him myself for a fire exchange here 441 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: at Mimmy Beach about three years ago Graham Lenahan. Maybe 442 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: you haven't heard of Graham Lenahan. I frankly is not 443 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: particularly familiar with him until fairly recently. He is a writer. 444 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: He is a comedy writer over in the UK. He 445 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: himself is Irish. He is raised from Dublin, Ireland, originally there, 446 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: and he set the woke mob on fire when, as 447 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: someone in the entertainment profession, as a comedy writer, he 448 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: was liking liking various trans skeptical posts on social media. 449 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: This culminated this passive temper with his arrest from the 450 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: British STOSSI let's call it the British secret police at 451 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: Heathrow Airport, the massive international airport in London. They arrested 452 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: this guy, Graham Lenehan, this comedy writer, for a series 453 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: of tweets about how biological males should not be in 454 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: female's prisons or compete against female sports. They literally arrested 455 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: him for tweeting this stuff. I mean, look, there's so 456 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: much to say about how great Britain, which really was 457 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: the cradle of West democracy in Western values. There's son 458 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: say about how just terribly, terribly far Britain has just 459 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: gone off the rails. It's really, really really sad personally 460 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: as an Anglo file. We'll hold that story for another day. 461 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: So that's who Graham Lenahan is. Charlie Kirk you, of 462 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: course no, Andrew Colvitt was there to accept the award 463 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: on Charlie's behalf. Andrew Colvitz a longtime top producer on 464 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk Show. He has now been the main 465 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: stand in data host on the Charlie Kirks Show since 466 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: Charlie's hocrific assassination this past September. And Professor der Schwitz, 467 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: you know by reputation as well. So it was very 468 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: interesting when they actually put all the awardees on stage 469 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: and you had Carl Cannon and Tom Bevin too of 470 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: the real Clear Politics, longtime staffers and founders up there 471 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: leading this conversation. It turns out that they actually gotten 472 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: to something of a disagreement pretty early on. So specifically 473 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: Graham Lenahan, who again hasn't made he's been persecuted by 474 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: the British for his view on the tran stuff. President 475 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: Dr Schwitz, who is a liberal broadly speaking in old 476 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: school liberal, but very much a liberal. Professor Durschwitz gets 477 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: up there and starts giving his p and his ode 478 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: to transgenderism, how I don't really care if you were 479 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: a male and now you want to identify as a 480 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: female or vice versa. There and the crowd started booing, 481 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: but to Professor Derswood's credit, he handled it with a 482 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: plum and said, this is my free speech right. And 483 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: this is kind of one of the late motifs. This 484 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: is one of the themes of the evening, was this 485 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: all out exaltation of free speech, this notion that we're 486 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: so that it is important in and of itself that 487 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: we are disagreeing. You know, even my good pal David 488 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: d Rosiers, who's the publisher of Real Clear Politics. I've 489 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: known David for many, many years. I just did an 490 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: event with him myself, also in Palm Beach actually last month. 491 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: So David de Roziers led off the opening remarks at 492 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: this gala. I don't think David would particularly mind if 493 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: I ripped him a little bit for a common that 494 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: he said there, which was he was criticizing the potential 495 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: prosecution of Don Lemon actually for his entry into the 496 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: church in Minnesota during the whole anti ice quote unquote protests. 497 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't view that the same way frankly, because it's 498 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: not a free speech issue. It's the fact that there 499 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: were constitutional rights that were violated, which are these people's 500 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: rights to their freedom of religion there, and there are 501 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: statutes on the books, like the Face Acts that prevent 502 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: this exact sort of thing there. But again, this notion 503 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: throughout the evening, and I love real clear, so I'm 504 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: not picking up real clear, but it was an unambiguous 505 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: notion throughout the evening that free speech is the sina 506 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: qua non, that it is the top value in our order, 507 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: and that all other things are subservient to free speech, 508 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: even if we are disagreeing on something as morally profound 509 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: and as morally charged as transgenderism, as inhibiting other folks 510 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: religious freedom rights, as Don Lemon and the other provocatoris 511 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: did in the city's church in Saint Paul, Minnesota. There 512 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: free speech, free speech, free speech. I want to just 513 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: briefly say that that is not how I view it, 514 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure that's not how the founder is 515 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: viewed either. Don't get me wrong. Free speech is really 516 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: really important, but it is not the most important thing 517 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: out there as an intrinsic matter. The relevant question folks 518 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: is this, Do we have a system of free speech 519 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: and a society like ours for the purpose of allowing 520 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: you and me and all of us to derive idiosyncratic 521 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: pleasure of saying whatever the heck we want to say, 522 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: and that's your right to say it. Is that the 523 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: highest value? Or on the other hand, consider the alternative 524 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: viewpoints that the reason that we have a system of 525 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: free speech is to arrive at the truth of the matter. 526 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: And free speech is therefore first and foremost an instrumentality. 527 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: Is not intrinsically important. It is to an extent, but 528 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: it's not the foremost, utmost intrinsic value. Rather, it's mostly 529 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: the instrumentality to allow competing viewpoints to allow at the truth. 530 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: That's how I view it, That's how the ancient Greeks 531 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: viewed it. What do you think that Socrates played on 532 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: Aristotle were doing the account me in Athens. This notion 533 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: of the Socratic method still implemented in law schools to 534 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: this day. This back and forth colloquy, this exchanged there, 535 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: it's all there to try to arrive at the truth. 536 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: At the level of US Supreme Court, when it comes 537 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: to first mem and free speech, caluse jurisprudence. This is 538 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: the stance long taken by Justice sam Alita, my personal 539 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: favorite justice on the Nation Side Court, at least in 540 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: terms of his jurisprudence. Clarence Thomas has the most amazing 541 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: life story and is an all American hero, greatesed living American. 542 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: Of all of them, for the matter, sam Alito is 543 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: the one whose jurisprudence is actually closest to my own, 544 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: and one of the reasons for that is for his 545 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: long standing stance on this very issue. You can see 546 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: this in some cases such as Us versus Stephens involving 547 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: so called animal crush videos, where he was the sole 548 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: dissenter and eight to one opinion upholding the constitutionality of 549 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: these horrific videos where you kill an animal. Before the Internet. 550 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: He was the sole dissenter in a case called Snyder 551 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: versus Phelps when it came to the Westborough Baptist Church 552 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: quote unquote protesting military funerals. Because just Aelito understands as 553 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: the ancient Greeks did, that's each is primarily there to 554 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: get to the truth of the matter, and ultimately free 555 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: speech must be subservience to the truth. So when Professor 556 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: Derswood is saying free speech, free speech, we freach yaaa 557 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: trands there, that's a lesser important value in the fact 558 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: that transgenderism and general mutilation, chemical castration are rudeness, they 559 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: do irreversible damage, They are middle fingers in the eyes 560 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: of our creator himself, for what it's worth, and are 561 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: frankly just outright immoral. That is the most important value there. 562 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: I would have liked to hear a little more of 563 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: that last night. For what it's worth there, free speech 564 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: really important, But I just want to say that there 565 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: are other values out there, frankly that are ultimately more 566 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: important than just free speech. Folks, stay with us, We'll 567 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: be right back the other time. Welcome back. Just two 568 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: foul thoughts on our previous topic before moving on to 569 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: some final thoughts for today's show. First, I wanted to 570 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: make sure this audience does not in any way misconstrued 571 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: or misunderstand what I am saying about the topic of 572 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: free speech. Free speech absolutely is one of the pillarstones 573 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: of modern Western democracy. It ought to go without saying 574 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: that without your ability to agree to disagree when it 575 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: comes to politically charged Indeed, I would argue even morally 576 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: charged issues certainly without your ability to agree to disagree 577 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: on that, countries start to go to hell in a handbasket. 578 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: In fact, when the left started ditching its old school 579 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: ACLU liberalism for its modern, more heavy handed form of 580 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: quote unquote progressivism and oxymoron, if there ever were one, 581 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: that was really one of the leading indicators that America 582 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: could potentially be heading for some more challenging times ahead. 583 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: So free speech is absolutely important. My only thing that 584 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and this is really the key takeaway, is 585 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: that it's not the end all be all. I just 586 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: couldn't helple think this when I was watching my friend 587 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: Alan Dershwitz last night just say aggressively pro transgender things 588 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: and then thinking that this is somehow okay because free speed. 589 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: But there are real victims. There are real victims here 590 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to transgender ideology, and not just frankly 591 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: those who are now succesfully suming for medical malpractice per 592 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: our opening segment, but also those who are being harmed 593 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: by transgender individuals like this horrific school shooting in British Columbia. 594 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: There are real harms involved from this ideology. That's the 595 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: most important thing. There's a million examples of this. How 596 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: about the abortion debate? 597 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 2: Free speech? 598 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: I agree to disagree with you about the worth of 599 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: the life in the room. Okay, I mean, bra vote, 600 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: you want a cookie? I mean good for you for 601 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: disagreeing with me about the moral worth and dignity of 602 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: that unborn child in the womb. Guests who doesn't have 603 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: a vote in the matter, the unborn child, the one 604 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: that perhaps you are just talking about snuffing out as 605 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: if it's just a clump of cells whatever they're so again, 606 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: this exercise that I'm getting out here, this mental exercises, 607 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: just intend to show you that free speech, while important, 608 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: is not the most important thing out there. And that 609 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: really was my big takeaway from the Real Claar Gallo, 610 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: which otherwise is a wonderful evening in tremendous, tremendous kudos 611 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: to David Rosiers, who Tom Bevin to Karl Kannen and 612 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: all the great folks there at Real Clear John McIntyre, 613 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: if I forgot any other names, my apologies. You guys 614 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: threw on a wonderful gala last evening. 615 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: In Palm Beach. Folk. 616 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: I've also been watching the Olympics. I'm not sure if 617 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: you've been watching the Olympics. I have to say that 618 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: I hate this political gotcha game. I mean, all these 619 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: reporters that are shoving the microphones in the American athletes faces. 620 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: Do you condemn the Trumpministration's approach to immigration? Do you 621 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: condemn the Trump Ministration's assault on the LGBTQ plus minus 622 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: a X y Z alpha beta, bravo whatever agenda? Who cares? 623 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: What are you doing this for? I mean, that's one 624 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: of my first objections. One of my other objections is 625 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: and my palate, Eli Shapiro, had any nice essay at 626 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: this over at City Journal intest publication for the Manhattan Institute. 627 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: And in this new essay, what Ili argues a very 628 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: astute point is that there's kind of this notion lurking 629 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: in the background every time we do the Olympic Games 630 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: every two years, so it's the winter, then two years 631 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: later summer, and then two years later winter. It's kind 632 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: of a repeating cycle. There's this notion that's always lurking 633 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: in the background during the Olympics games that the Olympics 634 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: are kind of like a United Nations Peace Corps like entity, 635 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: and that we really should just pretend that this is 636 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: kind of the Grand Kumbaya that we're all just going 637 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: to go along to get along here. When it comes 638 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: to the Olympics, I certainly sense that watching the tenor 639 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: and the tone of the coverage. I have it on 640 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: the background a lot. I happen to be a big 641 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: fan of the Olympics. Actually, I'm just a big sports 642 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: fan in general, so I love watching the games there. 643 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: And the better takeaway is this, that's not the purpose 644 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: of the Olympics. The purpose of the Olympics is not 645 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: to solve all the world's problems. The Olympics is not 646 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: tended to make sure the muddles vran do not have 647 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: a new because it's non intended to get Lamir Putin 648 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: and Russia out of Ukraine. By the way, I have 649 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: to say that I'm still astounded to this day that 650 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: international sporting competition the Olympics, but not just the Olympics. 651 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: Also when it comes to international tennis and golf, Russia 652 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: and Belarus literally can't even compete under their flag. Look, 653 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: we're very critical of Putin Russia on this show. We're 654 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: no fans of Lamir Putin, but the notion that competing 655 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: for the country of Russia is now still banned four 656 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: years after Punin invaded Ukraine. I'm sorry, what did the 657 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: Russian hockey player have to do with this? What did 658 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: the figure skater have anything to do with? 659 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: Lamar? 660 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: And Pun's decision to send the tanks rolling into the 661 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: dompass and cry me are you kidding me? Instead, you 662 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: see the Russians and the Bela Russians compete and there's 663 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: label called ai N which essentially Association of Independent Nations 664 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: or Athletes whatever. It's like a vague thing that says 665 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: that they are approved international athletes. So if you're trying 666 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: to solve the world's problems, that maybe the first thing 667 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: to do is recognize that that Russia and in this 668 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: case also Belarus are real countries. It's absolutely crazy. I 669 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen this. You know, lim is history. 670 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: But the better take for the Olympics is that it's 671 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: about sports. It's about athletic greatness. That's the purpose of this, 672 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: and boy are they great. Some of this stuff is 673 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. Now, personally I'm more of a fan of 674 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: summer games, but the Winter Games are are fun as well. 675 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: I mean, who can watch some of these skiers? So 676 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 1: just yesterday I was watching one of the many skiing 677 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: competitions and it's the moguls run you go down. I 678 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: don't know how many of y'all are are skiers. I'm 679 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: personally not a big skier actually, but moguls are essentially 680 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: these mounds of snow and you like zig zag back 681 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: and forth. There takes very tight knit parallel skiing. It's 682 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: like aggressive knee and hip control. It's really really skillful 683 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: stuff to not fall in your face and just make 684 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: a total hash of it. And then they're going off 685 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: these rams and doing tricks and flips there. It's crazy, 686 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: it's wild. The entertaining stuff, it's really fun and it's 687 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: really invigorating. So, whether it's that, whether it's the Summer 688 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: Games and Michael Phelps back in the day and now 689 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: the current swimmers and the track and field guys there 690 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: watch athletic greatness. That's literally the purpose of the Olympics, 691 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: going back to the ancient Olympics in actual ancient Greece. 692 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: Just a thought for now, what one final thought. It's 693 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: worth updating you when it comes to the Save Acts, 694 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 1: now known in the House as these Save America Acts. 695 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: So this legislation has passed the House by two hundred 696 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: and eighteen to two hundred thirteen vote, pretty much exclusively 697 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: along a long party lines. This would require this The 698 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: build is first introduced last year by Chiproway of Texas. 699 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: It would require documentary proof of citizenship to register devote 700 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: in federal elections and would establish a nationwide voter ID 701 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: requirement for casting ballots. There, it's now out of the 702 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: House onto this and it's Patty Murray, by the way 703 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: of Washington State is none too happy watch this melt down. 704 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 3: They're trying to say this is a voter ID bill. 705 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 3: That's not what's happening here. Let's just look at a 706 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: typical mom. You guys must know some working mothers, the 707 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 3: ones that I hear from across my district and across 708 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 3: this country. They are struggling to put food on the 709 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: table for their kids, working two jobs to try and 710 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 3: make ends meet, trying to juggle getting their kids to school, 711 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 3: maybe catching an occasional game, Fearing they're never going to 712 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: be able to find childcare they can afford, and praying 713 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: nobody in the family gets sick because I can't afford 714 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 3: a doctor either. And now you're going to say to 715 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 3: those women because they got married and changed their names. 716 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: They have to go down to a clerk and prove 717 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 3: their citizens sign affidavits. 718 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 2: Do this in person. 719 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 3: This is a minefield of red tape that you have 720 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: put in front of women and American citizens. 721 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: Sorry, we said Patty Murray was actually Congresswimman CATHN Clark, 722 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: their masters is Patty Murray. For what's worth of Washington 723 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: has said has certainly said very similar things as well. Look, fundamentally, folks, 724 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: the polling on the on the issue of voter ID, 725 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: the polling on this is astronomical. There is not a 726 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: voter slice of the demographic that I have seen that 727 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 1: as opposed to voter ID, Blacks, Hispanics, men's, women's, most 728 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: poles show Democrats at least priority all TOIDs of majority 729 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: support as well. You know why, it's common freaking sense. 730 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: If you need ID to board an airplane, or to 731 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: get into a courthouse, or to buy a bottle of 732 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: liquor or whatever, it really ought to need that ID 733 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: to cast your vote, to engage in this grand experiment 734 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: of order liberty from one generation to the next. It's 735 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: the most important thing out there. And yes, traditionally elections 736 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: are handled by the states, but there have been federal interventions, 737 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: the Fifteenth Amendment, Nineteenth Amendment, the sixty five Voting Rights Act, 738 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: and on and on. These two will be a worthy salvo. 739 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in the Senate there, perhaps in 740 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: a reconciliation package. Perhaps mister President of that reconciliation package 741 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: goes ahead and comes back. Folks, have a great restory evening. 742 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: You hope enjoys today show. We'll be right back with 743 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: more tomorrow. The Josh Amber Show is a member of 744 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: the Trust Project.