WEBVTT - Timeless Wisdom: Ultimate Issues - The Case For Marriage 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome to the Ultimate Issues Hour on the Dennis

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<v Speaker 2>Prager Show. This hour each week devoted to some great

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<v Speaker 2>issue of life, and I figure, since it is June,

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<v Speaker 2>it is the right time to talk about what happens

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<v Speaker 2>a lot in June, and that is people getting married.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to make the case for marriage. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't get much more of an ultimate issue than marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>the basic building block of society, or at least of

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<v Speaker 2>higher civilization as we have known it. It is under

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous assault in the Western world, tremendous assault. The belief

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<v Speaker 2>that that one doesn't have to get married, there is

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<v Speaker 2>no reason to, is widespread. The recent candidate for president

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<v Speaker 2>of France, the woman who is the candidate for the presidency,

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<v Speaker 2>the socialist candidate, she was not married to the man

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<v Speaker 2>who she lived with and who was the father of

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<v Speaker 2>her children. This is incredible to us in America at

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<v Speaker 2>any rate. It's just that it made no difference. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>married not married, has kids with him, and I'm not married,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. That's one of the areas of the assault.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many areas men who say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>why should I bother? I will get clubbered if there

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<v Speaker 2>is a divorce, I may even lose my children, all

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<v Speaker 2>of which, by the way, has some merit to it.

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<v Speaker 2>The the divorce laws are are a bit perverse. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I acknowledge that fact. But nevertheless, there there are arguments

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<v Speaker 2>that are made against marriage, and therefore arguments need to

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<v Speaker 2>be made for it. Everything that we have assumed was

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<v Speaker 2>central and unquestionable has not only become questioned, but has

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<v Speaker 2>become overthrown every almost every major idea, from patriotism, which

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<v Speaker 2>is now regarded by by much of the elite as

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<v Speaker 2>a form of chauvinism, if not in sipient fascism, to marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>to even having children. Why bother with children? It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a polluted world, and then zero population growth is

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<v Speaker 2>the ideal, and why bother with marriage? It's a it's

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<v Speaker 2>a patriarchal institution. And of course God and religion, they

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<v Speaker 2>just poison everything. To use the terminology of my guest

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<v Speaker 2>of last week, Christopher Hitchens, whom I debated about God,

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<v Speaker 2>and you will find that debate at Praegerradio dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything has not only been questioned, but in the Western world,

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<v Speaker 2>in many instances, is simply overthrown inside of one or

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<v Speaker 2>two generations. The argument for marriage, there are so many arguments.

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<v Speaker 2>There are both micro and macro. In other words, there

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<v Speaker 2>are personal arguments why it benefits the individuals, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are arguments from a societal standpoint why it benefits society.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is amazing to me that people don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about those second arguments. We remember, I believe, contrary to

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<v Speaker 2>the general assessment of the sixties, which was of a

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<v Speaker 2>very idealistic period of time, I regard the sixties as

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<v Speaker 2>the age of narcissism. And so when you make an argument,

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<v Speaker 2>when one makes an argument, well, marriage is good for society,

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<v Speaker 2>you go against the narcissism of that period with how

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<v Speaker 2>what's in it for me? Man? What's in it for me?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't see anything in it for me, so

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<v Speaker 2>I won't do it. But there is a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>it for society as well as for you. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>the subject of today's Ultimate Issues Hour, and I particularly

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<v Speaker 2>dedicate this, though not exclusively at all but to men,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of men have great qualms, although right

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<v Speaker 2>now I must say that it is a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>women as well. I believe that feminism, which has copied

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of male attitudes, has taught women to in

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<v Speaker 2>fact be quite like men, and to have attitudes like men,

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<v Speaker 2>and to believe that they will gain at least as

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<v Speaker 2>much satisfaction from macro success from a professional life as

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<v Speaker 2>from a good personal life. You ask girls today, Ask

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<v Speaker 2>a girl of college if you have a daughter, niece,

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<v Speaker 2>granddaughter at college, ask her, if you could have a

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<v Speaker 2>spectacular marriage or a spectacular career, which would you prefer.

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<v Speaker 2>And a generation ago, certainly, prior to feminism, the question

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<v Speaker 2>would have been would have been regarded by the vast

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<v Speaker 2>majority of young women as absurd. The dream was to

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<v Speaker 2>have a wonderful man and make and make and make

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<v Speaker 2>a good home. That was the dream. That's been the

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<v Speaker 2>dream of women throughout history. Not all women, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>not all women. There's no such thing as all. Generalizations

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<v Speaker 2>by definition mean you mean that you are generalizing, meaning therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>of course there are exceptions. And that was a good

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<v Speaker 2>dream for the female to have, finding a good man

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<v Speaker 2>and making a home with him, it was a very

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<v Speaker 2>good thing that at least one of the sexes had

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<v Speaker 2>that as their as their primary dream, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>knocked out. Ah, you're crazy for thinking that way. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there's much more satisfaction in being an astronaut, and I

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<v Speaker 2>choose that because it's it was the most glamorous profession.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we saw about an astronaut for whom being

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<v Speaker 2>an astronaut, a female astronaut, for whom being a female astronaut,

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<v Speaker 2>or being an astronaut was not exactly satisfying to the

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<v Speaker 2>ache for love. It gives you an idea of how

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<v Speaker 2>powerful the mind is that it could thwart the staggeringly

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<v Speaker 2>powerful urge in a woman. It's also in men, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about women for a moment. The staggeringly powerful

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<v Speaker 2>innate brain based urge for love. It gives you an

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<v Speaker 2>idea of how powerful the mind is when it is

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<v Speaker 2>incessantly bombarded with another message. It can thwart even what

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<v Speaker 2>the primal brain wants. And so girls were taught that

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<v Speaker 2>their primal instinct to want love more than anything else,

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<v Speaker 2>to love and be loved was just nonsense. What they

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted was professional success, and if a guy came along,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I hear all constantly from young women. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the right guy comes along, but I'm preoccupied with my career,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounds reasonable. She's not saying she doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to have the right guy, But there was very little

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<v Speaker 2>sense of that being very important. Ironically, and sadly, it

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<v Speaker 2>does become very important to women as they reach their

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<v Speaker 2>fortieth birthday in most cases, at any rate, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have had professional success, and by golly, it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>give them one fifth of the satisfaction that feminism promised them.

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<v Speaker 2>They were promised happiness through professional success. But somehow you

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<v Speaker 2>can't hug a pay raise, and it's nice to have

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<v Speaker 2>a pay raise. Don't get me wrong, I have never

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<v Speaker 2>poo pooed the importance of financial stability. I'm not an idiot,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not counterposing it, because the truth is people

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<v Speaker 2>who are married actually do better. So I'm obviously not

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<v Speaker 2>anti having financial stability, since marriage is better for financial

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<v Speaker 2>stability than being alone. That's for both sexes then, especially

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<v Speaker 2>for women. But you can't hug professional success when you

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<v Speaker 2>get home. That's just the way it is, and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't you haven't built anything, and it's nice to have

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<v Speaker 2>professional success. But what has been done to women to

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<v Speaker 2>convince them that that is where their happiness lies. It's

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<v Speaker 2>amazing the power of the mind to subvert the power

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<v Speaker 2>of nature. Now, sometimes it's good, because happiness does come

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<v Speaker 2>from the mind fighting the brain. But sometimes you outsmart yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what I think has happened with the feminist

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<v Speaker 2>ideal here. As for men, well, men have an innate

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<v Speaker 2>problem with marriage, and that is men are in fact

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<v Speaker 2>variety oriented in their sexctual nature, and the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>they will never be able to have another woman other

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<v Speaker 2>than the women that they are married to scares the

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<v Speaker 2>living daylights out of most men. This is it. This

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<v Speaker 2>is it, And people have to appreciate that you can't

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<v Speaker 2>make the world better. You can't do the right thing

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't acknowledge what your raw materials are. And

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<v Speaker 2>the raw material of male nature is not marriage oriented.

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<v Speaker 2>It is variety oriented. So if you now have women

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<v Speaker 2>saying that marriage is not important, well, then by gully,

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<v Speaker 2>the guys are certainly not going to be the great

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<v Speaker 2>force for marriage. Hey cool, you mean you women also

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<v Speaker 2>on variety? Oh man, this is heaven. You don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to die and go to heaven. This is heaven, this

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<v Speaker 2>is male nature speaking. So there's a lot working against marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get married. That's the subject of this Ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>Issue's hour, and I will take your CA one eighth

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<v Speaker 2>e R seven seven six and digitally that's eight seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven two four three triple seven six the Ultimate Issues

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<v Speaker 2>Hour on the Dennis Prager Show.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the Ultimate Issues Hour on the Dennis Prager Show.

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<v Speaker 2>The hour each week devoted or at least this is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely devoted. I have some Ultimate Issues on other hours,

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<v Speaker 2>but this one is devoted to some great issue in

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<v Speaker 2>this one. Given that we're in June and there are

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<v Speaker 2>so many weddings, I want to answer the question why

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<v Speaker 2>get married? Because, as I summarized earlier, there is such

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<v Speaker 2>a huge and organized either apathy or opposition. The apathy

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<v Speaker 2>is even worse to marriage. Why bother? It's you don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to you stay together. If you one day you

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<v Speaker 2>both decide not to, then you don't have messy divorce proceedings.

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<v Speaker 2>Who needs it? It's just a piece of paper. I

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<v Speaker 2>always get a kick out of the it's only a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of paper whenever a guy says that. It's usually

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<v Speaker 2>the guy says that to a woman he's been with

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<v Speaker 2>for six years. Well, honey, I love you, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's why marriage just a piece of paper? I have

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<v Speaker 2>a good answer for you women, Well, honey, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>only a piece of paper, why do you oppose it?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd like I'd like some guy to answer that one.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's only it can't be only a piece of paper.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't be so opposed to it if it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of paper. And then people argue, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there there's a there's a whatever percentage chance that you'll

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<v Speaker 2>get divorced. Yes, that's right, there is. There's a percentage

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<v Speaker 2>chance that you'll have a crash in an auto. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't argue against driving. I know about divorce, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a very very painful thing, and it's and and life

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<v Speaker 2>has pain, but it but it is still better to marry.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, people say, well, look, this guy makes

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<v Speaker 2>the case for for for marriage and he's divorced, so

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<v Speaker 2>what On the contrary, I have more more credibility because

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<v Speaker 2>I so believe in it, even though I've gone through

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<v Speaker 2>it and it is painful. Of course, of course it's

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<v Speaker 2>a better thing. Of course, First of all, you grow up. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, growing up is not a big value for

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of people. It isn't. It just isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, staying a child is a big value. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only is growing up not a big one, not growing

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<v Speaker 2>up is often a big one. I want to stay

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<v Speaker 2>a kid. I want to dress like a kid, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk like a kid, I want to look

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<v Speaker 2>like a kid. So so it's it's it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>very powerful argument, except if you do want to grow up,

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<v Speaker 2>and that, to me is a very powerful argument for marriage. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>does that mean that every human being who has remained

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<v Speaker 2>single has not grown up? No, it doesn't. Does that

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<v Speaker 2>mean that every human being who has married has grown up? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>every human I'll ask you this on the second part.

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<v Speaker 2>Any one of you who has married, you tell me

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<v Speaker 2>if you are not wiser and more mature at least

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<v Speaker 2>those two since you got married. I've never met anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who has denied that they were more aware of life,

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<v Speaker 2>that they were more mature, that they were more a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things as a result of getting married, even

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<v Speaker 2>if the marriage was not a good one. Now, if

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<v Speaker 2>your task in life is not too fully grow up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm talking emotionally psychologically, obviously, there are very good

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<v Speaker 2>people who have remained single that you could still be

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<v Speaker 2>kind to the world and a wonderful uncle and a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful aunt. I recognize that fact and do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of good for the world. But the fact is that

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<v Speaker 2>with regard to yourself and your emotional development, what is

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<v Speaker 2>available in marriage is not available not getting married. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just not available. So that's a big one. People always

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<v Speaker 2>speak about companionship, and I will talk about that, but frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>growing up is a big one, at least to me. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>there is and this I made the point when my

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<v Speaker 2>two older kids got married last year, and I did

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<v Speaker 2>a number of shows on this. You immediately have a

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<v Speaker 2>different relationship with your child's spouse than your child's live in.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you do. It changes from my son's girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>or significant other or partner or whatever term you wish

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<v Speaker 2>to use, to my daughter in law or my son

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<v Speaker 2>in law. In the case of the man who married

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter, he is my son in law. His family

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<v Speaker 2>is now part of my family. They are not merely

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter's boyfriend's family. These are huge differences. Huge Now

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<v Speaker 2>the stakes are greater and the chance for pain is

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<v Speaker 2>also greater. That's right. So you have a choice in life.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wish to avoid pain or you want to

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<v Speaker 2>live life fully? Those are your choices. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to live life fully, then you take risks for pain.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the way it works. That's the way in

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<v Speaker 2>which the world has been made one, Aid Praguer seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven six. You are listening to the Dennis Prager Show,

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<v Speaker 2>the Ultimate Issues Hour, and let's go to Susie in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles, Susie, Dennis Prager, thank you for calling. Hello, Susie, Hi, Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>How old are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Susie thirty?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for calling. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here in LA marriage is under attack because when

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<v Speaker 3>you get married and you're happy, then after a year

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<v Speaker 3>or two, the husband is noticing about Hugh Hefner and

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<v Speaker 3>then his friends tell him, oh, everybody wants to be

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<v Speaker 3>like Hugh Hefner and have a lot of women, and

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<v Speaker 3>oh he's so happy, But is he really happy? And

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<v Speaker 3>then you get cable and you get the package, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you discover Playboy channel is on that and your

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<v Speaker 3>husband is glued to watching those nude women in sex

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<v Speaker 3>acts with women and in disgusting scenes. So marriage is

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<v Speaker 3>really under attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there are two separate issues here, the envy of

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<v Speaker 2>the Hugh Hefner and the guy glued to the Playboy channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you speaking about from your own experience?

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<v Speaker 3>Lots of women here in LA have that problem of

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<v Speaker 3>my girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 2>Of their husband in effect wanting to live a Hefner

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<v Speaker 2>like existence. Yeah, well, this is why I, oh, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for calling. I need to comment on that. This

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<v Speaker 2>is why I have said to you. As important as

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<v Speaker 2>I consider so much of what I've done on tape,

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<v Speaker 2>I have hundreds of hundreds and hundreds of lectures on tape.

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<v Speaker 2>My four tapes on male sexual nature maybe the most

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<v Speaker 2>important thing I ever did to help men understand themselves

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<v Speaker 2>and women to understand their men, because there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>denial about male sexual nature on the part of both sexes,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has to be maturely acknowledged. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>have to bring in what works and what and value systems.

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<v Speaker 2>And I beg you, I do this about nothing else

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever done. I beg you to get them. Go

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<v Speaker 2>to Dennis Prager dot com and or call eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>two two five eighty five eighty four eight hundred two

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<v Speaker 2>our CDs or downloads. However, it's gone. I feel bad

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<v Speaker 2>because it sounds like an ad Okay, I got that

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<v Speaker 2>out the This, Yes, Hugh Hefner, is what male nature

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<v Speaker 2>would would live like if it had no nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>stop it, not society, not values, et cetera. That is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Hugh Hefner is profoundly empty empty. Is he happy in

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<v Speaker 2>some ways? Undoubtedly. I'll continue with that in a moment

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<v Speaker 2>on the Dennis Prager Show.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of Timeless Wisdom, we'll continue right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the Dennis Prager Show, the Ultimate Issues hour.

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<v Speaker 2>This one is the case for a marriage and it's June,

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<v Speaker 2>and I figured it's a perfect time to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of marriage is taking place, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of marriage is not taking place if we follow the data,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the Western world. And the last woman, a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty year old woman from Los Angeles, called in and

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<v Speaker 2>then about how she says so many of her male acquaintances.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to live a Hugh Hefner life, especially she

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<v Speaker 2>feels in Los Angeles. And indeed, that is it is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely worth dealing with. I don't have the time now

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<v Speaker 2>because of the larger subject of marriage, but I but

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<v Speaker 2>that has to that issue has to be dealt with.

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<v Speaker 2>I said that at the very beginning. Women have their

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<v Speaker 2>own reasons, now given to them by feminism and and

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<v Speaker 2>now internalized about oh well, it's not that important. I

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<v Speaker 2>need to need to be professionally successful, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>I find a guy that's nice, but it's not critical,

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<v Speaker 2>and so on and then and men have their own

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<v Speaker 2>nature to fight, because male nature is variety oriented. So men,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a real choice. You want to be let

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<v Speaker 2>around by your by your testes or by your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, That is very simple. Guys, that's your choice.

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<v Speaker 2>If you if you wish to live a life and

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of your life be able to say

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<v Speaker 2>that you slept with uh, with eight hundred women and

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<v Speaker 2>this will be meaningful to you, then do it. That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>But please understand you will not look back at your

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<v Speaker 2>life and say, wow, this was terrific, uh, compared to

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<v Speaker 2>a man who can look back at his life and

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<v Speaker 2>have and have made a home and a life with

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<v Speaker 2>with a with a woman, uh, and with with hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>with children, and with a community of people, and with

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<v Speaker 2>and with friends as well. Yes, there's plenty of divorce.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that obviously I'm one of them, and and

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<v Speaker 2>that and and and it's tragic and it's absolutely tragic

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<v Speaker 2>when it happens. So so so therefore, what what is

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<v Speaker 2>the choice to live? To live that that that hefnarian life?

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<v Speaker 2>It is utterly, utterly shallow, a viagra based life. Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now now I am happy. Look, it's it's possible to

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<v Speaker 2>be to be happy on some level if you were

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<v Speaker 2>if if if happiness is available with such shallowness that

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<v Speaker 2>you have never in effect left high school or college,

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<v Speaker 2>then fine, And you should be avoided by women. And

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<v Speaker 2>if women wish to give themselves to you, then fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And they they they deserve the uh, the life that

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<v Speaker 2>they have chosen. But I believe in any any definition

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<v Speaker 2>of happiness that is beyond having an orgasm, uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a far a far deeper happiness available to you

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<v Speaker 2>through through commitment to somebody, to building something. I've always

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<v Speaker 2>thought ever since I'm a kid. But I but I

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge I was born mature. I mean, you know, there

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<v Speaker 2>are kids like that, So I take no credit for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was just was born thinking about these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember as a kid thinking what will I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say about my life? Before as I'm ready

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<v Speaker 2>to die, what will I want to say about it?

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<v Speaker 2>And I certainly had my time of what they say

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<v Speaker 2>sewing wild oats, and I realized, after a certain number

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<v Speaker 2>of years, this is this, this could go on forever,

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<v Speaker 2>and and what do I have to show for it?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly? One A Praguer seven seven six is the number

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<v Speaker 2>one eight p R A G E R seven seven

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<v Speaker 2>six and Houston, Texas, Ryan Hillo, Ryan Dennis Prager. Hey, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>And how old are you? In this case ages are

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<v Speaker 2>significant to me. How old are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm twenty five years old, Okay, go ahead. And I've

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<v Speaker 4>been married for two years. I got married a year

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<v Speaker 4>and a half after I graduated from college. And I

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<v Speaker 4>actually it was an interesting interesting experience for me because

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<v Speaker 4>I I did a few research fellowships in college, so

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<v Speaker 4>I had a pretty close relationship with a handful of

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<v Speaker 4>professors and went back and met with them because I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to talk to them about what, you know, what

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<v Speaker 4>was going on in my life and everything. And I

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<v Speaker 4>was telling them I was going to get married, and

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<v Speaker 4>these professors were just adamant, adamant that I was making

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<v Speaker 4>a huge mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Now wait wait, now, wait at a huge mistake because

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<v Speaker 2>of your age or because of getting.

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<v Speaker 4>Married, because of getting married. The specific one professor in

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<v Speaker 4>particular was just in general was I could you know,

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<v Speaker 4>thought the marriage was all of those things that you've

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<v Speaker 4>already said at patriarchal institution, et cetera, et cetera, a

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<v Speaker 4>very academic there.

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<v Speaker 2>Now were these male and female male and female professors.

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<v Speaker 4>Both female professors.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, well that's look the university, which is which

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<v Speaker 2>is the most confused place in America as an institution,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where you would have it's the only place where

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<v Speaker 2>you would have women systematically arguing against marriage. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they're they're just unbelievably happy women, those two women,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm certain of. It will be back in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the Dennis Prager Show, The Ultimate Issues Hour, Hi, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>Ultimate Issues Hour, the third hour of my Tuesday show.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's June, and I figured the Ultimate Issue is

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<v Speaker 2>the case for marriage. You want to grow, there is nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no profession that will enable you to grow

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<v Speaker 2>the way marriage does. And then again parenthood by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And really, folks, you have a choice to make. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking especially to those of you on the younger

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<v Speaker 2>side are who debate this whole issue and who have

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<v Speaker 2>put an effect all of your future eggs in the

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<v Speaker 2>profession basket. Do you want to live life safe or

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to live life deeply? That is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the questions you will have to answer. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that I have always wanted to have all of life,

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<v Speaker 2>with its pain, with its joy. This has always been

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<v Speaker 2>important to me. But if you want safety, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want if you want to guarantee less hurt, then I

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<v Speaker 2>guess don't get married. That's a guarantee. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>can die saying well I experience less pain than others. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really something now. But if you want to grow,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want the intensity of life's experience, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to march through life with somebody at your side,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean it's guaranteed, of course not obviously, given the

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<v Speaker 2>divorce rates, and there are a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are not divorced who are certainly unhappy in their marriages.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a given that that's true. So so what therefore what?

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<v Speaker 2>And to you guys who want to live the efnarian existence?

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<v Speaker 2>You speak to the guys. You speak to the guys

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<v Speaker 2>who do and tell me that they have a deep, rich,

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful life. They have fun, Yeah, they have fun. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how much fun. Frankly, to be perfectly honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, I don't know how much fun you know

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<v Speaker 2>when you do well? What you guys? When you get

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<v Speaker 2>involved with a woman, and especially if you sleep with her,

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<v Speaker 2>for most women, at least those those over college age,

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<v Speaker 2>there is there is usually a desire. Unless the woman

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<v Speaker 2>has really squelched her nature, there is usually a desire

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<v Speaker 2>for something more with that man. And unless you are

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<v Speaker 2>prepared to absolutely ignore their their calls and ignore them afterwards,

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 2>then there is there is. It's not exactly the most

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<v Speaker 2>pleasant way to lead a life. Alright, Let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>more of your calls one Aid Prager seven seven six,

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<v Speaker 2>and we go to a Dallas and mar kello Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Dennis Prager, Hello, good, thanks.

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<v Speaker 5>My question is you know, from a Jewish perspective, poligamility, polygamy,

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<v Speaker 5>was allowed in to the medieval period in the Fardika communities.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't outlawed or prohibited. It was just a question

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<v Speaker 5>of maria's contracts being modified so that the husband wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>taken more than one wife. Why do we today look

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<v Speaker 5>at it as morally wrong in terms of having more

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<v Speaker 5>than one wives?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wouldn't even use the word morally wrong. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you why it's wrong. Uh. The since you've

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<v Speaker 2>cited the Bible itself or was and specifically the the

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<v Speaker 2>the Hebrew Bible or the Old Testament or the Torah

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<v Speaker 2>and the and the rest of the Tanach, the answer is,

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<v Speaker 2>every single time there is polygamy described, Uh, it shows

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<v Speaker 2>how terrible it is for one of the women. One

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<v Speaker 2>is loved and one is hated. That is a common

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<v Speaker 2>a description of the two women. And and there and

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 2>that's it. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. Does is

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 2>it economically beneficial? In some cases? Probably? Does it satisfy

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 2>some women who otherwise would not marry and at least

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 2>they they then have a chance for a child. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>But in terms of the way in which ultimately, if

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 2>you still want to talk Bible, which is what you did,

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 2>God created one woman for Adam after saying it is

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<v Speaker 2>not good for him to be alone, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>not two women, by the way. That is in itself instructive.

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<v Speaker 2>Notice it's not Adam who said it's not good for

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<v Speaker 2>man to be alone. Men don't realize it. They often

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<v Speaker 2>have to be told it. It's God who makes the

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<v Speaker 2>pronouncement it's not good for man to be alone. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like Adam woke uple one day. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>need a partner. God made the announcement, and they need

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<v Speaker 2>to be talking about Bible. Seem to keep remembering personal

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<v Speaker 2>things to mention to you. I resume tonight for those

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<v Speaker 2>of you in the southern California area, I resume my

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<v Speaker 2>Bible teaching at the University of Judaism. So contact contact

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<v Speaker 2>of the university and a joint it's the It's four

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<v Speaker 2>four nights, four Tuesday nights. I believe it works out

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<v Speaker 2>it and tonight is the one again. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>if you have ever studied with me or not. Doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>if you're you're religious or not religious, or what your

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<v Speaker 2>religion is. If you are religious. So that's at the

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<v Speaker 2>University of Judaism. Tonight begins the four wee the four

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday nights of this season, and let's go to what

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<v Speaker 2>Tory a man in Mankato, Minnesota. Hello Tory, Dennis Prager.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Dennis.

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<v Speaker 4>Both my wife and I Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow you know I, Oh my god, I think all shure?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you there? Yeah? Notice every line got killed, including Torri.

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<v Speaker 2>Every something happened to our telephone line. Every single line there.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone was full and everyone just got knocked off. Too bad,

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<v Speaker 2>because I really wanted to take that. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>take every one of your calls. They're coming back now,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's I don't know how does that happen. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it's inevitable sometimes because it's a bank taking so

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<v Speaker 2>many calls. Well, they're all religned to bed. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there was about an impending divorce, and I would have

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<v Speaker 2>loved to have been able to answer you. I'm making

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<v Speaker 2>the case for marriage on this Ultimate Issues Hour. It

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<v Speaker 2>is so obvious to me that with all its issues,

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<v Speaker 2>you really have to answer. These are questions, These are

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate questions that you folks have to answer. You folks

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<v Speaker 2>have to answer the question of what is it you

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<v Speaker 2>want in the final analysis out of life? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>want a deeper life? Do you want to grow or

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to avoid pain? Do you want as

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<v Speaker 2>easy a life as possible? Or as rich a life

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<v Speaker 2>as possible? These are intellectual, value based questions you must

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<v Speaker 2>ask yourself, and depending upon those answers, that is how

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<v Speaker 2>you will ultimately lead your life. But I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that has always guided me is how

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<v Speaker 2>do I want to look back at my life? Do

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say I played it safe and as

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<v Speaker 2>a man? Do I want to say, oh, I was

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<v Speaker 2>with ex number of women? Wow? What an achievement. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in a moment on The Dennis Prager Show.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of timeless Wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll continue right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't listening to the Dennis Prager Show. The case for

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<v Speaker 2>marriage is what I'm making on this Ultimate Issues Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Every week at this time I devote an hour to

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<v Speaker 2>some ultimate issue case for marriage, and I will certainly

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<v Speaker 2>return to it another time. But but I thought June

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<v Speaker 2>was a perfect time to do this. How in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 2>Dennis Prager, thank you for calling. Hello, How are you okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 6>I The reason I called you had turned on the

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<v Speaker 6>radio and you were talking about somebody sewing their wild

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<v Speaker 6>oats as before they became monogamous, and I guess maybe

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<v Speaker 6>even mentioned yourself. And it's a debate. I've had with

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<v Speaker 6>friends in the past who have had that experience and

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<v Speaker 6>claimed that they wouldn't have had it any other way,

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<v Speaker 6>that in fact, they're better off for having had that

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<v Speaker 6>experience before they settled down, and I disagree with them,

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<v Speaker 6>But I was wondering what you thought about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it depends very much on the individual,

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<v Speaker 2>on the type of society in which they live. There

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<v Speaker 2>are people in closed religious societies for whom this would

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<v Speaker 2>not be a good idea. I also believe that the

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<v Speaker 2>act of intercourse itself should be reserved for the person

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<v Speaker 2>that you will marry. But if I may generalize, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that for men, I could speak for men better

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<v Speaker 2>than for women to be able to say, when married,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I really do know what variety would

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<v Speaker 2>be like, and and I don't sit here yearning for

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<v Speaker 2>something that I've already experienced, could be, could be, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily but could be helpful.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think that someone who has had that variety

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<v Speaker 6>And I'll acknowledge I have not married with seven children

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<v Speaker 6>only one person. Do you think that somebody who has

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<v Speaker 6>had that variety can honestly say that they don't continue

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<v Speaker 6>to yearn for it.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I think that men have a yearning for it

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<v Speaker 2>in their nature, no matter what. But I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>the fantasy world has diminished tremendously. To take a non

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<v Speaker 2>sexual arena. If one has had certain foods, one doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what does that food taste like? There still may

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<v Speaker 2>be a yearning for that food because it's yummy, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have the additional uh a fantasy of g

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<v Speaker 2>what would it be like? And and in that regard,

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<v Speaker 2>it could And I'm not the issue is not advocating.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to be as honest as I can in

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<v Speaker 2>answering your question. And it could, it could help for

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<v Speaker 2>those men. But as I said, I think the act

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<v Speaker 2>itself and I distinguished between the act of intercourse and

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<v Speaker 2>and and other contact between men and women. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that should be reserved for the person that you will marry.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's some some some one thing and that

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<v Speaker 2>specifically should be sacrisanct. If if to the extent that

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<v Speaker 2>people can do that, you want to lead a deeper life,

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<v Speaker 2>get married you want to lead a painless life, don't

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