1 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of 2 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: hours of Dennis's lectures, courses in classic radio programs. And 3 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles, go to Dennisprager dot com. 4 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Ultimate Issues Hour on the Dennis 5 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: Prager Show. This hour each week devoted to some great 6 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: issue of life, and I figure, since it is June, 7 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: it is the right time to talk about what happens 8 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: a lot in June, and that is people getting married. 9 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: And I want to make the case for marriage. You 10 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: can't get much more of an ultimate issue than marriage, 11 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: the basic building block of society, or at least of 12 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: higher civilization as we have known it. It is under 13 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 2: tremendous assault in the Western world, tremendous assault. The belief 14 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: that that one doesn't have to get married, there is 15 00:01:21,039 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: no reason to, is widespread. The recent candidate for president 16 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: of France, the woman who is the candidate for the presidency, 17 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: the socialist candidate, she was not married to the man 18 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: who she lived with and who was the father of 19 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: her children. This is incredible to us in America at 20 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: any rate. It's just that it made no difference. I'm 21 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: married not married, has kids with him, and I'm not married, 22 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. That's one of the areas of the assault. 23 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: There are so many areas men who say, you know, 24 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: why should I bother? I will get clubbered if there 25 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: is a divorce, I may even lose my children, all 26 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: of which, by the way, has some merit to it. 27 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: The the divorce laws are are a bit perverse. Uh, 28 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: I acknowledge that fact. But nevertheless, there there are arguments 29 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: that are made against marriage, and therefore arguments need to 30 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: be made for it. Everything that we have assumed was 31 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: central and unquestionable has not only become questioned, but has 32 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: become overthrown every almost every major idea, from patriotism, which 33 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: is now regarded by by much of the elite as 34 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: a form of chauvinism, if not in sipient fascism, to marriage, 35 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: to even having children. Why bother with children? It's it's 36 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: it's a polluted world, and then zero population growth is 37 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: the ideal, and why bother with marriage? It's a it's 38 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: a patriarchal institution. And of course God and religion, they 39 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: just poison everything. To use the terminology of my guest 40 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: of last week, Christopher Hitchens, whom I debated about God, 41 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: and you will find that debate at Praegerradio dot com. 42 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: Everything has not only been questioned, but in the Western world, 43 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: in many instances, is simply overthrown inside of one or 44 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: two generations. The argument for marriage, there are so many arguments. 45 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: There are both micro and macro. In other words, there 46 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: are personal arguments why it benefits the individuals, and there 47 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: are arguments from a societal standpoint why it benefits society. 48 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: And it is amazing to me that people don't care 49 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: about those second arguments. We remember, I believe, contrary to 50 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: the general assessment of the sixties, which was of a 51 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: very idealistic period of time, I regard the sixties as 52 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: the age of narcissism. And so when you make an argument, 53 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: when one makes an argument, well, marriage is good for society, 54 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: you go against the narcissism of that period with how 55 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: what's in it for me? Man? What's in it for me? 56 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: And I don't see anything in it for me, so 57 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: I won't do it. But there is a lot in 58 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: it for society as well as for you. So that's 59 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: the subject of today's Ultimate Issues Hour, and I particularly 60 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: dedicate this, though not exclusively at all but to men, 61 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: because a lot of men have great qualms, although right 62 00:04:29,159 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: now I must say that it is a lot of 63 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: women as well. I believe that feminism, which has copied 64 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: a lot of male attitudes, has taught women to in 65 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: fact be quite like men, and to have attitudes like men, 66 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: and to believe that they will gain at least as 67 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: much satisfaction from macro success from a professional life as 68 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: from a good personal life. You ask girls today, Ask 69 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: a girl of college if you have a daughter, niece, 70 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: granddaughter at college, ask her, if you could have a 71 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: spectacular marriage or a spectacular career, which would you prefer. 72 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 2: And a generation ago, certainly, prior to feminism, the question 73 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: would have been would have been regarded by the vast 74 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: majority of young women as absurd. The dream was to 75 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: have a wonderful man and make and make and make 76 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: a good home. That was the dream. That's been the 77 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: dream of women throughout history. Not all women, of course, 78 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 2: not all women. There's no such thing as all. Generalizations 79 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: by definition mean you mean that you are generalizing, meaning therefore, 80 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: of course there are exceptions. And that was a good 81 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: dream for the female to have, finding a good man 82 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: and making a home with him, it was a very 83 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: good thing that at least one of the sexes had 84 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: that as their as their primary dream, and that was 85 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: knocked out. Ah, you're crazy for thinking that way. Now, 86 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: there's much more satisfaction in being an astronaut, and I 87 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: choose that because it's it was the most glamorous profession. 88 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: And then we saw about an astronaut for whom being 89 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: an astronaut, a female astronaut, for whom being a female astronaut, 90 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: or being an astronaut was not exactly satisfying to the 91 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: ache for love. It gives you an idea of how 92 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: powerful the mind is that it could thwart the staggeringly 93 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: powerful urge in a woman. It's also in men, but 94 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: let's talk about women for a moment. The staggeringly powerful 95 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: innate brain based urge for love. It gives you an 96 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: idea of how powerful the mind is when it is 97 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: incessantly bombarded with another message. It can thwart even what 98 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: the primal brain wants. And so girls were taught that 99 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: their primal instinct to want love more than anything else, 100 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: to love and be loved was just nonsense. What they 101 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: really wanted was professional success, and if a guy came along, 102 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: that's what I hear all constantly from young women. Well, yeah, 103 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: the right guy comes along, but I'm preoccupied with my career, 104 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: and it sounds reasonable. She's not saying she doesn't want 105 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: to have the right guy, But there was very little 106 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: sense of that being very important. Ironically, and sadly, it 107 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: does become very important to women as they reach their 108 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: fortieth birthday in most cases, at any rate, and they 109 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: have had professional success, and by golly, it doesn't really 110 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: give them one fifth of the satisfaction that feminism promised them. 111 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: They were promised happiness through professional success. But somehow you 112 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: can't hug a pay raise, and it's nice to have 113 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: a pay raise. Don't get me wrong, I have never 114 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: poo pooed the importance of financial stability. I'm not an idiot, 115 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: and I'm not counterposing it, because the truth is people 116 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: who are married actually do better. So I'm obviously not 117 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: anti having financial stability, since marriage is better for financial 118 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: stability than being alone. That's for both sexes then, especially 119 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: for women. But you can't hug professional success when you 120 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: get home. That's just the way it is, and you 121 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: don't you haven't built anything, and it's nice to have 122 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: professional success. But what has been done to women to 123 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: convince them that that is where their happiness lies. It's 124 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: amazing the power of the mind to subvert the power 125 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: of nature. Now, sometimes it's good, because happiness does come 126 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: from the mind fighting the brain. But sometimes you outsmart yourself, 127 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: which is what I think has happened with the feminist 128 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: ideal here. As for men, well, men have an innate 129 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: problem with marriage, and that is men are in fact 130 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: variety oriented in their sexctual nature, and the idea that 131 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: they will never be able to have another woman other 132 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: than the women that they are married to scares the 133 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: living daylights out of most men. This is it. This 134 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: is it, And people have to appreciate that you can't 135 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: make the world better. You can't do the right thing 136 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: if you don't acknowledge what your raw materials are. And 137 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 2: the raw material of male nature is not marriage oriented. 138 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: It is variety oriented. So if you now have women 139 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: saying that marriage is not important, well, then by gully, 140 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: the guys are certainly not going to be the great 141 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: force for marriage. Hey cool, you mean you women also 142 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: on variety? Oh man, this is heaven. You don't have 143 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: to die and go to heaven. This is heaven, this 144 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: is male nature speaking. So there's a lot working against marriage. 145 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: So I get married. That's the subject of this Ultimate 146 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: Issue's hour, and I will take your CA one eighth 147 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: Prager seven seven six one eight p R A G 148 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: e R seven seven six and digitally that's eight seven 149 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: seven two four three triple seven six the Ultimate Issues 150 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: Hour on the Dennis Prager Show. 151 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 152 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 153 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: There's the Ultimate Issues Hour on the Dennis Prager Show. 154 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: The hour each week devoted or at least this is 155 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: absolutely devoted. I have some Ultimate Issues on other hours, 156 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: but this one is devoted to some great issue in 157 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: this one. Given that we're in June and there are 158 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: so many weddings, I want to answer the question why 159 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: get married? Because, as I summarized earlier, there is such 160 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: a huge and organized either apathy or opposition. The apathy 161 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: is even worse to marriage. Why bother? It's you don't 162 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: need to you stay together. If you one day you 163 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: both decide not to, then you don't have messy divorce proceedings. 164 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: Who needs it? It's just a piece of paper. I 165 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: always get a kick out of the it's only a 166 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: piece of paper whenever a guy says that. It's usually 167 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: the guy says that to a woman he's been with 168 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: for six years. Well, honey, I love you, and it's 169 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: it's why marriage just a piece of paper? I have 170 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: a good answer for you women, Well, honey, if it's 171 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: only a piece of paper, why do you oppose it? 172 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: And I'd like I'd like some guy to answer that one. 173 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: If it's only it can't be only a piece of paper. 174 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 2: You wouldn't be so opposed to it if it's just 175 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: a piece of paper. And then people argue, well, you know, 176 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: there there's a there's a whatever percentage chance that you'll 177 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: get divorced. Yes, that's right, there is. There's a percentage 178 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: chance that you'll have a crash in an auto. It 179 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: doesn't argue against driving. I know about divorce, and it's 180 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: a very very painful thing, and it's and and life 181 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: has pain, but it but it is still better to marry. 182 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: So you know, people say, well, look, this guy makes 183 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: the case for for for marriage and he's divorced, so 184 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: what On the contrary, I have more more credibility because 185 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: I so believe in it, even though I've gone through 186 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: it and it is painful. Of course, of course it's 187 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: a better thing. Of course, First of all, you grow up. Now, 188 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: I know, growing up is not a big value for 189 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: for a lot of people. It isn't. It just isn't. 190 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: In fact, staying a child is a big value. Not 191 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: only is growing up not a big one, not growing 192 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: up is often a big one. I want to stay 193 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: a kid. I want to dress like a kid, I 194 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: want to talk like a kid, I want to look 195 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: like a kid. So so it's it's it's not a 196 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: very powerful argument, except if you do want to grow up, 197 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: and that, to me is a very powerful argument for marriage. Now, 198 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: does that mean that every human being who has remained 199 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: single has not grown up? No, it doesn't. Does that 200 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: mean that every human being who has married has grown up? Well, 201 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: every human I'll ask you this on the second part. 202 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: Any one of you who has married, you tell me 203 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: if you are not wiser and more mature at least 204 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: those two since you got married. I've never met anybody, 205 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: anybody who has denied that they were more aware of life, 206 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: that they were more mature, that they were more a 207 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: lot of things as a result of getting married, even 208 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: if the marriage was not a good one. Now, if 209 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: your task in life is not too fully grow up, 210 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: and I'm talking emotionally psychologically, obviously, there are very good 211 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: people who have remained single that you could still be 212 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: kind to the world and a wonderful uncle and a 213 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: wonderful aunt. I recognize that fact and do a lot 214 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: of good for the world. But the fact is that 215 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: with regard to yourself and your emotional development, what is 216 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: available in marriage is not available not getting married. It's 217 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: just not available. So that's a big one. People always 218 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: speak about companionship, and I will talk about that, but frankly, 219 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: growing up is a big one, at least to me. Secondly, 220 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: there is and this I made the point when my 221 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: two older kids got married last year, and I did 222 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: a number of shows on this. You immediately have a 223 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: different relationship with your child's spouse than your child's live in. 224 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: Of course you do. It changes from my son's girlfriend 225 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: or significant other or partner or whatever term you wish 226 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: to use, to my daughter in law or my son 227 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: in law. In the case of the man who married 228 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: my daughter, he is my son in law. His family 229 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: is now part of my family. They are not merely 230 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: my daughter's boyfriend's family. These are huge differences. Huge Now 231 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: the stakes are greater and the chance for pain is 232 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: also greater. That's right. So you have a choice in life. 233 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: Do you wish to avoid pain or you want to 234 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: live life fully? Those are your choices. If you want 235 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: to live life fully, then you take risks for pain. 236 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: That is the way it works. That's the way in 237 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: which the world has been made one, Aid Praguer seven 238 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: seven six. You are listening to the Dennis Prager Show, 239 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: the Ultimate Issues Hour, and let's go to Susie in 240 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, Susie, Dennis Prager, thank you for calling. Hello, Susie, Hi, Hi? 241 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: How old are you? 242 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: Susie thirty? 243 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling. Go ahead. 244 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: Well, here in LA marriage is under attack because when 245 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: you get married and you're happy, then after a year 246 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: or two, the husband is noticing about Hugh Hefner and 247 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: then his friends tell him, oh, everybody wants to be 248 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: like Hugh Hefner and have a lot of women, and 249 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: oh he's so happy, But is he really happy? And 250 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: then you get cable and you get the package, and 251 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: then you discover Playboy channel is on that and your 252 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: husband is glued to watching those nude women in sex 253 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: acts with women and in disgusting scenes. So marriage is 254 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: really under attack. 255 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: Well, there are two separate issues here, the envy of 256 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: the Hugh Hefner and the guy glued to the Playboy channel. 257 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: Are you speaking about from your own experience? 258 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: Lots of women here in LA have that problem of 259 00:17:16,639 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: my girlfriends. 260 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: Of their husband in effect wanting to live a Hefner 261 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: like existence. Yeah, well, this is why I, oh, thank 262 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: you for calling. I need to comment on that. This 263 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: is why I have said to you. As important as 264 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: I consider so much of what I've done on tape, 265 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: I have hundreds of hundreds and hundreds of lectures on tape. 266 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: My four tapes on male sexual nature maybe the most 267 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: important thing I ever did to help men understand themselves 268 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: and women to understand their men, because there's so much 269 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: denial about male sexual nature on the part of both sexes, 270 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: and it has to be maturely acknowledged. And then we 271 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: have to bring in what works and what and value systems. 272 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: And I beg you, I do this about nothing else 273 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: I've ever done. I beg you to get them. Go 274 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: to Dennis Prager dot com and or call eight hundred 275 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: two two five eighty five eighty four eight hundred two 276 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: two five eight five eighty four my four tapes on 277 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: our CDs or downloads. However, it's gone. I feel bad 278 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: because it sounds like an ad Okay, I got that 279 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 2: out the This, Yes, Hugh Hefner, is what male nature 280 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: would would live like if it had no nothing to 281 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: stop it, not society, not values, et cetera. That is correct. 282 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: Hugh Hefner is profoundly empty empty. Is he happy in 283 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: some ways? Undoubtedly. I'll continue with that in a moment 284 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: on the Dennis Prager Show. 285 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom, we'll continue right after this. 286 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 287 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Dennis Prager Show, the Ultimate Issues hour. 288 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: This one is the case for a marriage and it's June, 289 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: and I figured it's a perfect time to do so. 290 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: A lot of marriage is taking place, and a lot 291 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: of marriage is not taking place if we follow the data, 292 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: especially in the Western world. And the last woman, a 293 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 2: thirty year old woman from Los Angeles, called in and 294 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: then about how she says so many of her male acquaintances. 295 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 2: I want to live a Hugh Hefner life, especially she 296 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: feels in Los Angeles. And indeed, that is it is 297 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: absolutely worth dealing with. I don't have the time now 298 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: because of the larger subject of marriage, but I but 299 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: that has to that issue has to be dealt with. 300 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: I said that at the very beginning. Women have their 301 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: own reasons, now given to them by feminism and and 302 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: now internalized about oh well, it's not that important. I 303 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: need to need to be professionally successful, you know, if 304 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: I find a guy that's nice, but it's not critical, 305 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: and so on and then and men have their own 306 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: nature to fight, because male nature is variety oriented. So men, 307 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: you have a real choice. You want to be let 308 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: around by your by your testes or by your mind. 309 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 2: That is, That is very simple. Guys, that's your choice. 310 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: If you if you wish to live a life and 311 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: at the end of your life be able to say 312 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: that you slept with uh, with eight hundred women and 313 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: this will be meaningful to you, then do it. That's all. 314 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: But please understand you will not look back at your 315 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: life and say, wow, this was terrific, uh, compared to 316 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 2: a man who can look back at his life and 317 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: have and have made a home and a life with 318 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: with a with a woman, uh, and with with hopefully 319 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: with children, and with a community of people, and with 320 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: and with friends as well. Yes, there's plenty of divorce. 321 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: I know that obviously I'm one of them, and and 322 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: that and and and it's tragic and it's absolutely tragic 323 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: when it happens. So so so therefore, what what is 324 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: the choice to live? To live that that that hefnarian life? 325 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 2: It is utterly, utterly shallow, a viagra based life. Ah. 326 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: Now now I am happy. Look, it's it's possible to 327 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: be to be happy on some level if you were 328 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: if if if happiness is available with such shallowness that 329 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: you have never in effect left high school or college, 330 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: then fine, And you should be avoided by women. And 331 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: if women wish to give themselves to you, then fine. 332 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: And they they they deserve the uh, the life that 333 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: they have chosen. But I believe in any any definition 334 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: of happiness that is beyond having an orgasm, uh, you 335 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: have a far a far deeper happiness available to you 336 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: through through commitment to somebody, to building something. I've always 337 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: thought ever since I'm a kid. But I but I 338 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: acknowledge I was born mature. I mean, you know, there 339 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 2: are kids like that, So I take no credit for it. 340 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: I was I was just was born thinking about these things. 341 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: And I remember as a kid thinking what will I 342 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: want to say about my life? Before as I'm ready 343 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: to die, what will I want to say about it? 344 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: And I certainly had my time of what they say 345 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: sewing wild oats, and I realized, after a certain number 346 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: of years, this is this, this could go on forever, 347 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: and and what do I have to show for it? 348 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: What? 349 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: Exactly? One A Praguer seven seven six is the number 350 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: one eight p R A G E R seven seven 351 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: six and Houston, Texas, Ryan Hillo, Ryan Dennis Prager. Hey, okay, 352 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 2: thank you. 353 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wanted to. 354 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: And how old are you? In this case ages are 355 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: significant to me. How old are you? 356 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 4: I'm twenty five years old, Okay, go ahead. And I've 357 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: been married for two years. I got married a year 358 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 4: and a half after I graduated from college. And I 359 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 4: actually it was an interesting interesting experience for me because 360 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: I I did a few research fellowships in college, so 361 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: I had a pretty close relationship with a handful of 362 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: professors and went back and met with them because I 363 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: wanted to talk to them about what, you know, what 364 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: was going on in my life and everything. And I 365 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 4: was telling them I was going to get married, and 366 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: these professors were just adamant, adamant that I was making 367 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 4: a huge mistake. 368 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: Now wait wait, now, wait at a huge mistake because 369 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: of your age or because of getting. 370 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 4: Married, because of getting married. The specific one professor in 371 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: particular was just in general was I could you know, 372 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 4: thought the marriage was all of those things that you've 373 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: already said at patriarchal institution, et cetera, et cetera, a 374 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: very academic there. 375 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 2: Now were these male and female male and female professors. 376 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 4: Both female professors. 377 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, well that's look the university, which is which 378 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: is the most confused place in America as an institution, 379 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: that's where you would have it's the only place where 380 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: you would have women systematically arguing against marriage. And I'm 381 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: sure they're they're just unbelievably happy women, those two women, 382 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm certain of. It will be back in a moment. 383 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Dennis Prager Show, The Ultimate Issues Hour, Hi, everybody, 384 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: Ultimate Issues Hour, the third hour of my Tuesday show. 385 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: And it's June, and I figured the Ultimate Issue is 386 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: the case for marriage. You want to grow, there is nothing, 387 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: there is no profession that will enable you to grow 388 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: the way marriage does. And then again parenthood by the way. 389 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 2: And really, folks, you have a choice to make. And 390 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: I'm speaking especially to those of you on the younger 391 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: side are who debate this whole issue and who have 392 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: put an effect all of your future eggs in the 393 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: profession basket. Do you want to live life safe or 394 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: do you want to live life deeply? That is one 395 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 2: of the questions you will have to answer. I know 396 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: that I have always wanted to have all of life, 397 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: with its pain, with its joy. This has always been 398 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: important to me. But if you want safety, if you 399 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: want if you want to guarantee less hurt, then I 400 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: guess don't get married. That's a guarantee. And then you 401 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: can die saying well I experience less pain than others. Wow, 402 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: that's really something now. But if you want to grow, 403 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: if you want the intensity of life's experience, if you 404 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: want to march through life with somebody at your side, 405 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's guaranteed, of course not obviously, given the 406 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: divorce rates, and there are a lot of people who 407 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: are not divorced who are certainly unhappy in their marriages. 408 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: That's a given that that's true. So so what therefore what? 409 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: And to you guys who want to live the efnarian existence? 410 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: You speak to the guys. You speak to the guys 411 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: who do and tell me that they have a deep, rich, 412 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: wonderful life. They have fun, Yeah, they have fun. I 413 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: don't know how much fun. Frankly, to be perfectly honest 414 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: with you, I don't know how much fun you know 415 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: when you do well? What you guys? When you get 416 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: involved with a woman, and especially if you sleep with her, 417 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: for most women, at least those those over college age, 418 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: there is there is usually a desire. Unless the woman 419 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: has really squelched her nature, there is usually a desire 420 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: for something more with that man. And unless you are 421 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: prepared to absolutely ignore their their calls and ignore them afterwards, 422 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: then there is there is. It's not exactly the most 423 00:26:54,600 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: pleasant way to lead a life. Alright, Let's go to 424 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: more of your calls one Aid Prager seven seven six, 425 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: and we go to a Dallas and mar kello Mark 426 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager, Hello, good, thanks. 427 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: My question is you know, from a Jewish perspective, poligamility, polygamy, 428 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 5: was allowed in to the medieval period in the Fardika communities. 429 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 5: It wasn't outlawed or prohibited. It was just a question 430 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: of maria's contracts being modified so that the husband wouldn't 431 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 5: taken more than one wife. Why do we today look 432 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 5: at it as morally wrong in terms of having more 433 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 5: than one wives? 434 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't even use the word morally wrong. But 435 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you why it's wrong. Uh. The since you've 436 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: cited the Bible itself or was and specifically the the 437 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 2: the Hebrew Bible or the Old Testament or the Torah 438 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: and the and the rest of the Tanach, the answer is, 439 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: every single time there is polygamy described, Uh, it shows 440 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: how terrible it is for one of the women. One 441 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 2: is loved and one is hated. That is a common 442 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: a description of the two women. And and there and 443 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: that's it. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. Does is 444 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: it economically beneficial? In some cases? Probably? Does it satisfy 445 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: some women who otherwise would not marry and at least 446 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: they they then have a chance for a child. Yes, 447 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: But in terms of the way in which ultimately, if 448 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: you still want to talk Bible, which is what you did, 449 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 2: God created one woman for Adam after saying it is 450 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: not good for him to be alone, by the way, 451 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: not two women, by the way. That is in itself instructive. 452 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: Notice it's not Adam who said it's not good for 453 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: man to be alone. Men don't realize it. They often 454 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: have to be told it. It's God who makes the 455 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: pronouncement it's not good for man to be alone. It's 456 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: not like Adam woke uple one day. You know, I 457 00:28:52,240 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: need a partner. God made the announcement, and they need 458 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: to be talking about Bible. Seem to keep remembering personal 459 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: things to mention to you. I resume tonight for those 460 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: of you in the southern California area, I resume my 461 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: Bible teaching at the University of Judaism. So contact contact 462 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: of the university and a joint it's the It's four 463 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: four nights, four Tuesday nights. I believe it works out 464 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 2: it and tonight is the one again. It doesn't matter 465 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: if you have ever studied with me or not. Doesn't matter 466 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: if you're you're religious or not religious, or what your 467 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: religion is. If you are religious. So that's at the 468 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: University of Judaism. Tonight begins the four wee the four 469 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: Tuesday nights of this season, and let's go to what 470 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: Tory a man in Mankato, Minnesota. Hello Tory, Dennis Prager. 471 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: Hi Dennis. 472 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 4: Both my wife and I Hello. 473 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: Wow you know I, Oh my god, I think all shure? 474 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: Are you there? Yeah? Notice every line got killed, including Torri. 475 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: Every something happened to our telephone line. Every single line there. 476 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: Everyone was full and everyone just got knocked off. Too bad, 477 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: because I really wanted to take that. I wanted to 478 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: take every one of your calls. They're coming back now, 479 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: but it's I don't know how does that happen. I 480 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: guess it's inevitable sometimes because it's a bank taking so 481 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: many calls. Well, they're all religned to bed. I think 482 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: there was about an impending divorce, and I would have 483 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: loved to have been able to answer you. I'm making 484 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: the case for marriage on this Ultimate Issues Hour. It 485 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: is so obvious to me that with all its issues, 486 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: you really have to answer. These are questions, These are 487 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: ultimate questions that you folks have to answer. You folks 488 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: have to answer the question of what is it you 489 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: want in the final analysis out of life? Do you 490 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: want a deeper life? Do you want to grow or 491 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: do you want to avoid pain? Do you want as 492 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: easy a life as possible? Or as rich a life 493 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: as possible? These are intellectual, value based questions you must 494 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: ask yourself, and depending upon those answers, that is how 495 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: you will ultimately lead your life. But I'm telling you, 496 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: the one thing that has always guided me is how 497 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: do I want to look back at my life? Do 498 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: I want to say I played it safe and as 499 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: a man? Do I want to say, oh, I was 500 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: with ex number of women? Wow? What an achievement. Back 501 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: in a moment on The Dennis Prager Show. 502 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: This episode of timeless Wisdom. 503 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: We'll continue right after this. 504 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 505 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: Don't listening to the Dennis Prager Show. The case for 506 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: marriage is what I'm making on this Ultimate Issues Hour. 507 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: Every week at this time I devote an hour to 508 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: some ultimate issue case for marriage, and I will certainly 509 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: return to it another time. But but I thought June 510 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: was a perfect time to do this. How in Philadelphia, 511 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager, thank you for calling. Hello, How are you okay? 512 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: Thank you? 513 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 6: I The reason I called you had turned on the 514 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 6: radio and you were talking about somebody sewing their wild 515 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 6: oats as before they became monogamous, and I guess maybe 516 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 6: even mentioned yourself. And it's a debate. I've had with 517 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 6: friends in the past who have had that experience and 518 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 6: claimed that they wouldn't have had it any other way, 519 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 6: that in fact, they're better off for having had that 520 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 6: experience before they settled down, and I disagree with them, 521 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 6: But I was wondering what you thought about that. 522 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: I think that it depends very much on the individual, 523 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: on the type of society in which they live. There 524 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: are people in closed religious societies for whom this would 525 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: not be a good idea. I also believe that the 526 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: act of intercourse itself should be reserved for the person 527 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: that you will marry. But if I may generalize, I 528 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: think that for men, I could speak for men better 529 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: than for women to be able to say, when married, 530 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: you know what, I really do know what variety would 531 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: be like, and and I don't sit here yearning for 532 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: something that I've already experienced, could be, could be, isn't 533 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: necessarily but could be helpful. 534 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 6: Do you think that someone who has had that variety 535 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 6: And I'll acknowledge I have not married with seven children 536 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 6: only one person. Do you think that somebody who has 537 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 6: had that variety can honestly say that they don't continue 538 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 6: to yearn for it. 539 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: No. I think that men have a yearning for it 540 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: in their nature, no matter what. But I believe that 541 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: the fantasy world has diminished tremendously. To take a non 542 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: sexual arena. If one has had certain foods, one doesn't 543 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: wonder what does that food taste like? There still may 544 00:34:13,319 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: be a yearning for that food because it's yummy, but 545 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: you don't have the additional uh a fantasy of g 546 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 2: what would it be like? And and in that regard, 547 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: it could And I'm not the issue is not advocating. 548 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be as honest as I can in 549 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: answering your question. And it could, it could help for 550 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 2: those men. But as I said, I think the act 551 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: itself and I distinguished between the act of intercourse and 552 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 2: and and other contact between men and women. I think 553 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 2: that should be reserved for the person that you will marry. 554 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: I think there's some some some one thing and that 555 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: specifically should be sacrisanct. If if to the extent that 556 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 2: people can do that, you want to lead a deeper life, 557 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: get married you want to lead a painless life, don't 558 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: the Ultimate Issues hour on the Dennis Prager Show. 559 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: This has been Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Visit Dennisprager 560 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: dot com thousands of hours of Dennis's lectures, courses in 561 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: classic radio programs, and to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles 562 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: m