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Speaker 2: Welcome to a brand new episode of the Michel ta

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Speaker 3: Today. I am pretty psyched because this guest is.

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Speaker 2: Congressman John James out of Michigan is a remarkable person.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a little It reveals about me that

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Speaker 2: I appreciate hard workers, patriots, people who believe as I

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Speaker 2: a Masters of Business from the University of Michigan. Commissioned

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Speaker 3: I've always said this guy has the right stuff. Now

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Speaker 2: Next Congressman John James.

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Speaker 3: I've wanted to meet you for so long.

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Speaker 2: I'm such a big admirer, and I hate to start

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Speaker 3: And I love achievers.

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Speaker 3: That's what you seem to be.

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Speaker 2: And now you're running for governor in Michigan, which I

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Speaker 4: How you doing well?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great now, Michelle, because now I have that

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Speaker 2: You know, there are so many layers to that healthcare onion.

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Speaker 2: We can increase tuition because you know what, the government's

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Speaker 1: That question makes me think of a movie Will Ferrell

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Speaker 1: Like you, but you're crazy. That's what most American people

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Speaker 1: You know what, we had our No Kings protest last November,

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Speaker 1: and sacrifice is required, and he's going to make that

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Speaker 1: sacrifice on the front end so that my sons don't

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Speaker 1: have to make the sacrifice in the future.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing that we've been lulled there, given that it

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Speaker 2: just doesn't Nine to eleven doesn't feel that long ago

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Speaker 2: to me. And then, you know, you look at October

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Speaker 2: seventh and I remember people saying, could that happen here?

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Speaker 2: And it's like, well, it already did. It happened on

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Speaker 2: nine to eleven. You know, I don't know how people

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Speaker 2: can not see domestic safety, the safety period as the

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Speaker 2: number one obligation of the government. Now I don't want

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Speaker 2: to run out of time. I want to get to

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Speaker 2: you running for governor of Michigan.

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Speaker 4: But we're having so much fun.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, but this is going to be

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Speaker 2: fun too. This is going to be fun too because

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean, you clearly demonstrate such leadership. I

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Speaker 2: hear people talk about Gretchen Whitmer in positive ways, and

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Speaker 2: then she was in the Oval office and she held

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Speaker 2: a magazine in front of her face or a folder.

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Speaker 3: She didn't want to be seen there, whatever.

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Speaker 2: So I have very mixed feelings about this person, you know,

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Speaker 2: but that's neither.

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Speaker 3: Here nor there.

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Speaker 2: You are running on the Republican side. Do you have

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Speaker 2: the Republican nomination or do you have opposition at this point.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm super excited. It was just reported recently, just

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Speaker 1: last week that I'm the favorite in Michigan well in

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Speaker 1: the election. But you know what, you know, the last

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Speaker 1: thing we're going to do, the last thing we're going

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Speaker 1: to do is kick our feet up. Because we had

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Speaker 1: a saying in combat complacency kills. We're going to continue

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Speaker 1: to get out there to listen before we lead. We're

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Speaker 1: going to continue out to go out there and hear

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Speaker 1: folks concerns how we can meet their needs. And the

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Speaker 1: need is great, Michelle. We have education issues. We're forty

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Speaker 1: fourth out of fifty in education. We have housing issues.

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Speaker 1: We have a housing crisis all over the state of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Michigan is growing at the second slowest rate in Union.

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Speaker 1: We're forty ninth out of fifty in terms of population growth. Detroit,

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Speaker 1: our largest city, one out of every two children is

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Speaker 1: in poverty, not poor, not scraping by poverty. One out

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Speaker 1: of two children in Detroit. Also in Detroit, only thirteen

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Speaker 1: percent of third graders can read.

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Speaker 4: At grade level.

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Speaker 1: We have a situation in the state of Michigan where

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Speaker 1: we don't have the time for an experiment. We need

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Speaker 1: experience and when you talk about preparing for crises that

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Speaker 1: are coming, I don't know. Maybe having a combat that

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Speaker 1: are in the commander in chief of the Michigan National

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Speaker 1: Guard would be a good start. When you're talking about

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Speaker 1: bringing economic development and making sure that people's personal economy

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Speaker 1: is doing well. Maybe the walking result of the American dreams.

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Speaker 1: Someone whose father came from the Jim Crow South to

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Speaker 1: Michigan for better opportunities and now as a result, was

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Speaker 1: able to grow his family business, creating hundreds of jobs

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Speaker 1: and growing the family business larger and being able to

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Speaker 1: help the community. Maybe having someone being an executive of

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Speaker 1: the state should be able to tell that story and

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Speaker 1: understand some of the weight that are a large, small

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Speaker 1: and everything business in between are facing. Maybe when you

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Speaker 1: have a state that has forty percent of his budget

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Speaker 1: coming from the FEDS, having someone who's deployed to Washington,

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Speaker 1: d c. And will make sure that Michigan's the first

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Speaker 1: to the troth and not continuously the last, and someone

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Speaker 1: who won't shade their face when they go ask the

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Speaker 1: President for things, maybe that might be a start. Michigan

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Speaker 1: is also a battleground state, and I want to be

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Speaker 1: very careful and I want you to hear this very carefully.

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Speaker 1: Battleground states in midterms have an outsized role in determining

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Speaker 1: not only the leadership in their state, but also the

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Speaker 1: leadership in Washington DC. When you look at past midterms,

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Speaker 1: even as recently as the last one, when we have

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Speaker 1: a week or a toxic top of ticket, when we

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Speaker 1: have people who bring the rest of the Republican ballot down,

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Speaker 1: then we jeopardized Senate seats and House seats that we

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Speaker 1: should have won. We saw that in Pennsylvania, we saw

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Speaker 1: that in Arizona. But we saw the opposite in New York,

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Speaker 1: a blue state. To be sure, New York a blue state,

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Speaker 1: you had Lee Zelden, who ran a strong race and

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Speaker 1: was able to pull five Republicans across the finish line

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Speaker 1: in districts that Biden won.

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Speaker 4: That was the.

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Speaker 1: Difference in one hundred and eighteenth Congress. That was the

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Speaker 1: difference for our republic because we were able to do

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Speaker 1: that in one hundred and eighteenth, we were the bulwark

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Speaker 1: against crazy in Washington, d C. We would have had

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico in a DC and four additional senators for

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Speaker 1: Democrats in DC. We would have had open borders and

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Speaker 1: amnesty codified, we would have had a stuffed impact Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court under Chuck Schumer. But because we had a strong

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Speaker 1: top of ticket in New York, in a blue state,

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Speaker 1: we were able to protect the republic long enough to

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Speaker 1: make sure that we could get our President Trump in office.

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Speaker 1: We have the same opportunity here. Michigan is a much

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Speaker 1: better environment. Michigan has gone from a Democrat to Republican,

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Speaker 1: Democrat to Republican, and now we're up.

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Speaker 4: Historically.

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Speaker 1: You have an issue set where people trust Republicans, and

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Speaker 1: what we are focused on is economic mobility, public safety,

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Speaker 1: government accountability, wellness, and academic excellence. These are things that

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Speaker 1: people trust Republicans on, and so Michigan is a much

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Speaker 1: better situation. We're already leading the top of ticket, and

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Speaker 1: so I'm excited to make sure that we can take

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Speaker 1: our positive message, a vision for purpose for the future

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Speaker 1: of Michigan that will also massively benefit holding our seats

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Speaker 1: in both the House and the Senate.

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Speaker 4: In after the menter, I want.

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Speaker 3: To ask you an obvious question here.

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Speaker 2: You talked about your dad coming from the Jim Crow South.

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Speaker 2: I've experienced this directly that there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: people with your background and your skin color who find

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Speaker 2: it difficult, find it challenging to be on the Republican side.

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Speaker 2: What are the challenges that you've faced in that regard.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, the biggest challenges that I faced in that regard

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Speaker 1: are from people who look like me. And it is

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Speaker 1: challenging because, if I'm to be honest, in the past,

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Speaker 1: Democrats have taken African Americans for granted and Republicans in

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Speaker 1: the past hadn't even tried. But recently under President Trump,

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Speaker 1: not only did he come to Detroit eight years ago

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Speaker 1: and say.

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Speaker 4: What do you have to lose?

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Speaker 1: And not only did he come to Detroit and deliver

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Speaker 1: on his promises where we have the most economic gains

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Speaker 1: for African Americans, just for African Americans, but for everyone

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Speaker 1: around the country before the pandemic.

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Speaker 4: But President Trump has increased.

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Speaker 1: Those numbers because he's focused on things like making our

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Speaker 1: economy stronger again, bringing our jobs back home. Just recently,

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Speaker 1: General Motors said they're going to put an additional two

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Speaker 1: billion dollars back into the state of Michigan. And Stillantis

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Speaker 1: is bringing fourteen billion dollars back to the country, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of that is coming into the state of Michigan.

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Speaker 4: As well.

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Speaker 1: These are jobs that are going to benefit all Americans,

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Speaker 1: but particularly African Americans who are working hard each and

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Speaker 1: every single day. These are jobs that had left our

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Speaker 1: communities and had gone to places like Mexico and China,

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Speaker 1: and President Trump's bringing them back. So people aren't dumb.

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Speaker 1: You also have the First Step Act. You also have

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Speaker 1: opportunity zones where you look at the incarceration race, addressing

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Speaker 1: second chances for people and addressing recidivism and giving people

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Speaker 1: a different and better shot at life. You also have

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Speaker 1: opportunity zones where economic growth small businesses will be able

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Speaker 1: to thrive in areas that have been disinvested in the past.

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Speaker 4: And this is something that's very very important.

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Speaker 1: Particularly when you have people who are overwhelmingly in a

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Speaker 1: cash based economy who need more of their own hard

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Speaker 1: cash back in their pockets. When you talk about things

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Speaker 1: Republicans stand for like no tax on tips, no tax

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Speaker 1: on overtime, making sure that you can keep more of

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Speaker 1: your own tax dollars, these are fundamentally conservative ideas and

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Speaker 1: ideals that work their work everywhere they're being tried, and

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Speaker 1: so you can just see it the proofs in the pudding.

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Speaker 1: You look at blue states run by Democrat governors in

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Speaker 1: cities and people are leaving. And then you look at

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Speaker 1: red states that are being led by Republicans and people

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Speaker 1: are going to those places. You look at inner cities

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Speaker 1: run and control by Democrats for decades, and people are

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Speaker 1: struggling to make ends meet. People are struggling with their schools,

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Speaker 1: they're struggling with their health care, They're struggling with their jobs.

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Speaker 1: And so when you look at this, they're struggling with violence.

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Speaker 1: Detroit is top. I think what two or three in

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Speaker 1: violent homicides, rapes, and this doesn't benefit African Americans.

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Speaker 4: Are anyone?

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Speaker 1: So, like I said, I think the Democrats in the

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Speaker 1: past had taken the African American vote for granted, but

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Speaker 1: Republicans haven't tried.

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Speaker 4: And I think that President Trump and the Republican.

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Speaker 1: Party is reaching out to each and every single American,

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Speaker 1: regardless of your race, your color, your creed, or how

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Speaker 1: you voted in the past. I'm looking forward to going

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Speaker 1: back home where I was raised, where my business is,

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Speaker 1: and talking to my brothers and sisters. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was rejected. Who do

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Speaker 1: I think I am? But I still have to show up.

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Speaker 1: I still have to listen, I still have to work,

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Speaker 1: and I truly believe that if you do all the

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Speaker 1: right things, that's how you earn trust. And I think

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Speaker 1: that people in Stay, Michigan, regardless of their race, regardless

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Speaker 1: where they come from, deserve a governor who cares about them.

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Speaker 3: Here a great candidate. Uh I.

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Speaker 2: I don't consider myself when I do these interviews to

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Speaker 2: be you know, I like to ask questions that matter,

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Speaker 2: but I'm also going to tell you what I think,

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Speaker 2: and I I think Governor John James sounds pretty damn

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Speaker 2: good where I'm sitting.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sitting in one of those blue states. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you know this. I'm in Minnesota, and

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Speaker 3: uh it's it's dire.

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Speaker 2: So we we we hope, we we only hope we

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Speaker 2: can have a candidate that like you.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, John.

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Speaker 1: James, Michigan will welcome you with open arms. Only Great

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Speaker 1: Lakes State, Michigan will welcome you.

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Speaker 4: With open arms.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that he is Congressman John James. What's the website?

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Speaker 4: Real quick, John jamesimi dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's John jamesimi dot com where you can follow me

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Speaker 1: on the socials, John James am I.

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Speaker 3: John James am I as in mission again. That's this,

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Speaker 3: you know, the little m I stand question. Okay, Congress.

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Speaker 3: Been great to see you, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I always end every podcast saying be brave and do good,

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Speaker 2: and you have done both of those things in droves

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Speaker 2: and we wish you the very best.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Michelle, You're awesome. Godlins.

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