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Speaker 2: I'm Hugh Hewett.

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Speaker 1: On this Thursday, Jacksmith, former special prosecutor of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: had his day being prosecuted by the House Oversight Committee. Today,

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Speaker 1: here's Jim Jordan of Ohio talking with America Javert Jack

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Speaker 1: Smith cut number two.

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Speaker 3: Due and Miss Trimer Yo Beeck to you. Jenlmal yields back.

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Speaker 4: Mister Smith is Cassidy Hutchinson a liar. She was their

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Speaker 4: star witness January sixth committee, their star witness in one

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Speaker 4: of those staged and choreographed hearings they paid the former

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Speaker 4: president of ABC News to put together. She was in

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Speaker 4: fact the only witness at this special prime time hearing Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: June twenty eighth, twenty twenty two, eight o'clock in the.

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Speaker 3: Evening, and she told some stories. I mean these were

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Speaker 3: these were some stories she.

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Speaker 4: Talked about President lungsed across the back seat, grabbed the

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Speaker 4: steering wheel, tried to drive the car to the Capitol.

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Speaker 4: And I just want to know you think she was lying?

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Speaker 5: Chereman Jordan. My assessment of that particular issue is that,

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Speaker 5: with respect to the testimony about someone lunge of the

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Speaker 5: president lunging towards the driver, my recollection of her testimony

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Speaker 5: about that is that it was secondhand. She said she'd

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Speaker 5: heard that from somebody.

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Speaker 4: You familiar with the name of Tony Ornado? I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: Do you familiar with the name Tony Ornado?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: White House Deputy Chief of Operations, Deputy cheap of Staff

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Speaker 4: for Operations, right.

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Speaker 3: You know you remember what he said.

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Speaker 5: About it, as I said here right now, I do not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he said it didn't happen. How about Bob, you

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Speaker 4: familiar with that name? Yes, I am Secret Service agent

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Speaker 4: who was actually in the car that day. You know

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Speaker 4: what he said, He said it didn't happen. And they

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Speaker 4: both said the first time they ever heard this story

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Speaker 4: was when miss Hutchinson testified in the prime time hearing

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Speaker 4: as their star witness of the January sixth committee. By

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Speaker 4: the way, do you ever confirm her testimony about this

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Speaker 4: particular incident.

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Speaker 5: We conducted, as I said before, our own independent investigation

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Speaker 5: of all aspects of the case that we thought was relevant.

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Speaker 5: We attorneys from my office.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever confirm it?

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Speaker 6: That's a simple question.

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Speaker 5: Well, we interviewed her, I should say, attorneys in my office.

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Speaker 4: Bill, do you ever confirm the president leaping across the seat,

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Speaker 4: grabbing the steering wheel, this whole concoction she brought up

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Speaker 4: in the January sixth hearing, Do you ever confirm.

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Speaker 5: That we interviewed another firsthand witness who was in the

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Speaker 5: car who did not confirm that that could happen.

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Speaker 4: But also your deposition to the committee last month, mister Smith,

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Speaker 4: you said this my recollection with miss Hutchinson was a

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Speaker 4: secondhand hearsaying your remembers making that statement to us last

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Speaker 4: month in the deposition, I.

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Speaker 5: Did, and I was referring particularly to what we're talking

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you also said miss Hutchinson regarding this particular

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Speaker 4: claim was a second or even third hand witness. We

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Speaker 4: ask you, if you were a defense attorney, how would

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Speaker 4: Miss Hutchinson were a witness, the first thing I would

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Speaker 4: here say you remember saying all that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's correct, sir, that's correct?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 4: Were you gonna put her on the witness stand if

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Speaker 5: We had not made final determinations as to who we

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Speaker 4: Large ar choice of witnesses in this Are you familiar

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Speaker 4: what Washington Post reporters Carol Lenning and Aaron Davis said

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Speaker 4: in their book? They did his book three hundreds on

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Speaker 3: Here's what they said.

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Speaker 4: On page three to ten, they said Jack Smith had

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Speaker 6: Up on Hutchinson's account.

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, however, Trump administration officials uniformly fiercely disputed her accounts

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Speaker 4: under oath. Prosecutors on your team told Smith they wouldn't

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Speaker 4: Smith agreed. Are Carol Lennig and Aaron Davis who wrote this?

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Speaker 8: Are they? Lion?

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Speaker 5: My recollection is that I certainly had not made any

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Speaker 3: And that's the point.

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Speaker 6: That is the point, the fact.

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Speaker 1: That point check Brandon Gill, Congressman from Texas made more

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, we did, Yes, you did.

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Speaker 9: And the subpoena covered the time period between November twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty and January twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, sir, Could you say that again?

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Speaker 9: We're not going to delay like this. The subpoena covered

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Speaker 9: the time period between November of twenty twenty and January

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty one. How many days after Kevin McCarthy was

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Speaker 5: I don't recall, but those two things had nothing.

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Speaker 9: It was well sixteen days after becoming the highest ranking

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Speaker 9: Republican in the House of Representatives, usubpoenaed his toll records.

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Speaker 9: Do you agree that that might reasonably be considered a

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Speaker 9: violation of the speech or debate clause.

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Speaker 5: I do not, and I want to be clear that

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Speaker 5: the toll.

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Speaker 9: We were collecting month's worth of phone data on the

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Speaker 9: right after he got sworn in his speaker, all around

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Speaker 9: the time of a major vote. That sounds like a

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Speaker 9: flagrant violation of the speech or debate clause to me,

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Speaker 9: and I think most people agree with me. And Speaker

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Speaker 9: McCarthy had no recourse, did he, because you issued a

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Speaker 9: non disclosure order ensuring that neither he nor any of

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Speaker 9: the American people knew about the subpoenas.

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Speaker 8: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: The toll record, the non content toll record subpoena is

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Speaker 5: we did secure non disclosure orders for those subpoenas.

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 9: And let me ask you, mister Smith, at the time

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Speaker 9: you secured those non disclosure orders.

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Speaker 3: Was Speaker McCarthy a flight risk?

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Speaker 5: The non disclosure order was based on concerns about it.

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Speaker 3: Was Speaker McCarthy a flight risks?

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Speaker 5: He was not?

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Speaker 2: He was not.

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Speaker 9: Then why did your non disclosure order refer to him

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Speaker 9: as a flight risk? It says right here the court

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Speaker 9: finds reasonable grounds to believe that such disclosure will result

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Speaker 5: Sir, when securing a non disclosure order, the risks don't

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Speaker 9: I think the Speaker of the House is a risk

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Speaker 9: this question? No, this is not your time. This is

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Speaker 9: my time. You think the Speaker of the House is

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: What I was trying to explain is, with respect to

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Speaker 9: I think that you were using this is clearly in

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Speaker 9: reference to Speaker McCarthy, and you were using clearly false

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Speaker 9: information to secure a non disclosure order to hide from

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Speaker 9: Speaker McCarthy and from the American people the fact that

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Speaker 9: you were spying on his toll records. But I've got

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Speaker 9: more more, so let's move on. And May of twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty three, you also issued subpoenas for toll records of

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Speaker 9: nine US senators.

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Speaker 3: And an additional representative is that.

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Speaker 5: Right in May of twenty three, we did issue.

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Speaker 9: You did, and there were non disclosure orders in conjunction

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Speaker 9: with those subpoenas as well.

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Speaker 5: That's correct, consistent with Department policy law.

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Speaker 3: So again, nobody would know what you were doing.

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Speaker 9: The Senators would, and the representatives would, and the American

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: The toll records that we secured in the non disclosure

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Speaker 9: And you knew whenever you were doing that that there

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Speaker 9: was a risk you were violating the speechure debate clause.

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: The toll record subpoenas that we secured. Where with the

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Speaker 5: concurrence of the public.

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Speaker 9: Context, your own analysis says that you knew there was

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Speaker 3: I have it right here.

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Speaker 9: This is an email from John Keller at Public Integrity

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Speaker 9: Section to your team. As you are aware, quote, as

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Speaker 9: you are aware, there is some litigation risk regarding whether

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Speaker 9: violates the speechure debate clause in the DC circuit. That's

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Speaker 9: from your own analysis right there. So you did know,

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Speaker 5: So with respect to the item you just put up

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Speaker 5: on the screen, the last sentence states.

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Speaker 9: Uh, oh, we're going to get to the last sentence. Okay,

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Speaker 9: We're going to get to the last sentence, and you

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Speaker 9: signed case long here. Quote the bar on compelled disclosure

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Speaker 9: is absolute, is right?

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Speaker 7: Is that right?

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Speaker 9: Or do you think that you didn't have to abide

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Speaker 9: by that precedent?

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Speaker 5: To be clear, this is not this statement is not

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Speaker 9: This is This is your justification for those subpoenas and

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Speaker 9: get to that last sentence then. Quote, given my understanding

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Speaker 9: of the low likelihood that any of the members listed

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Speaker 9: below would be charged, the litigation risk should be minimal here.

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Speaker 9: In other words, you're using a novel legal theory, which

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Speaker 9: you knew was novel, has never been tested by any court.

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Speaker 9: You're not charging any of these members. Nobody is going to.

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Speaker 3: Know about it because you issued INNDOS.

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Speaker 9: Nobody is going to sue about it, So sue this,

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Speaker 9: So who cares?

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Speaker 3: We're going to do it.

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Speaker 9: Anyways, You walked all over the Constitution throughout.

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Speaker 3: This entire process, the gentlemen's times led members.

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Speaker 9: Of Congress, and you know it. It's absolutely disgraceful.

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely disgraceful. It goes on and on. Jack

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Speaker 1: Smith was a rogue prosecutor who did great damage to

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Speaker 1: the constitution in the political process of the United States.

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Speaker 1: He is the javert from Ley Mees.

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Speaker 8: He is.

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Speaker 1: He never to prosecute anyone again. He never to prosecute

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Speaker 1: at President Trump, he was unconstitutionally appointed. It was as

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Speaker 1: was held by the District court in Florida. Never appealed

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Speaker 1: because the case was dismissed after President trump one reelection.

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith and his team a disgrace to justice in

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Speaker 1: the United States. I'll be right back on the huge

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Speaker 1: US show quarter Back of America. I'm Hugh Hewittt. Noah

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Speaker 1: Rothman is with National Review, where he's a senior writer. Noah,

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Speaker 10: No, you might be detecting a trend of sinners.

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Speaker 10: Gu Lastly, if I've seen the same television show I've

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're the problem. I think Hollywood's the problem.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm typically leery of messaging strikes like that. I

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Speaker 1: And there is no need for that because China. A

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you are Oh for ten because it

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Speaker 1: I'll be right back in America. Stay tum, Welcome back in America.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt. For the first time, I don't know

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Speaker 1: in years, I've missed two commentary podcasts back to back.

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Speaker 1: So my next guest Eleana Y Johnson, who's a regular

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Speaker 1: Free Beacon, which you ought to be reading every morning

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Speaker 1: at Freebeacon dot com. Eli On a three parts to

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Speaker 1: today's interview part number one ten yes or no questions

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Speaker 1: because the Oscar List came out number one.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen Frankenstein?

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Speaker 11: I Hugh, I'll spare you time. I haven't seen anything.

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Speaker 2: You're zero for ten. I make up for my.

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Speaker 11: Zero for ten by having seen the Oongebob movie three

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Speaker 11: Yes, Hamnet No, never heard of it.

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Speaker 2: The Secret Agent.

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Speaker 3: Heard of it.

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Speaker 2: Sentimental Value never heard of it. Sinners heard of it.

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Speaker 11: My colleague John Ortz gave it a rave review. We

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Speaker 1: Okay, one battle after another, Nope and Bogonia. Now, how

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Speaker 2: Seventh do so No. I took two three year olds

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Speaker 2: to it. Do not do it, do not do it?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three films focused on Gaza war and hostage crisis

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Speaker 1: nominated for oscars, Israel's butcher staying children know more where

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Speaker 1: and are gone?

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Speaker 2: And then one.

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Speaker 1: Called, uh, the voice of hin Rajab about the death

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Speaker 1: of a five year old Palestinian.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to bet which wins?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Can all three walk away with the wards?

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Speaker 11: Because I think that's what would happen if the oscars

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Speaker 11: could do it. And I look forward to the demonstrative

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Speaker 11: protests by the winners while they're up on stage and

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Speaker 11: the absolute silence on the butchery of the Iranian regime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen thousand.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming to, in fact, out reverse order of my

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Speaker 1: question because you brought it up. Should President Trump strike

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Speaker 1: as a purely punitive measure. I do not have hopes

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Speaker 1: for regime change. I don't want a bombing campaign. I

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Speaker 1: just want to strike them, because you shouldn't mow down

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Speaker 1: fifteen thousand of your people.

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Speaker 11: And will he strike, well, I think he should strike

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Speaker 11: in an effort for regime change in Iran, not simply

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Speaker 11: as a punitive measure, but because it's in the American interests.

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Speaker 11: And for about the past ten days, you I've believed

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Speaker 11: strongly that the window for American action is not closed.

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Speaker 11: In the days after President Trump issued his threats and

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Speaker 11: the Iranian leaders were sort of thumbing their noses, and

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Speaker 11: there are a lot of people saying he drew a

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Speaker 11: red line, he's not enforcing it. That may yet turn

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Speaker 11: out to be true, But I think we're working on

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Speaker 11: a bit of a longer timeline. There's enough fifteen squadron

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Speaker 11: and aerial refueling tankers heading to the region, and I

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Speaker 11: tend to think President Trump is waiting for the right

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Speaker 11: time here. And at the same time, the conditions that

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Speaker 11: led to these protests, the economic emiseration and the fact

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Speaker 11: that the Iranian currency is not worth the paper that

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Speaker 11: it's printed on, are.

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Speaker 7: Not changing.

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Speaker 2: Now we've got real.

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Speaker 11: Problems, and I think I do think the President is

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Speaker 11: going to pick his moment, and I hope he does.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to.

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Speaker 1: But we have to do different kinds of strike punity,

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Speaker 1: meaning there's a guardrail here.

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Speaker 2: You don't machine gun your own people, and.

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Speaker 1: Then regime destabilization paps change as with Serbia, as with Libya.

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Speaker 1: That would be a sustained air campaign. Do you think

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Speaker 1: he's got the.

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Speaker 2: Will to do that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got iron will, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's in the bombing campaign.

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Speaker 2: Business, do you.

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Speaker 11: I'm not sure. You know. Predicting the actions of this

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Speaker 11: president is tough. The latter, the regime destabilization, regime decapitation

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Speaker 11: is obviously more difficult than the former, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 11: put it past this president. And Hugh, I would note

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Speaker 11: the Wall Street Journal report last night that this regime

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Speaker 11: is looking that this president Trump is looking at regime

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Speaker 11: change in Cuba.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's totally.

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Speaker 11: And I think the two are connected because what underlies

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Speaker 11: both of these things, as well as the maduro rate

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Speaker 11: in Venezuela, is that we can totally discard the notion

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Speaker 11: that this president doesn't is not concerned with matters beyond

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Speaker 11: our shores. I think he's looking at legacy building, and

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Speaker 11: I think he knows that the way he acts on

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Speaker 11: Iran is intimately connected with his legacy. And when he

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Speaker 11: went out and did that press conference on Maduro announcing

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Speaker 11: that they had captured him, he cited it in a

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Speaker 11: line of foreign policy actions, including the killing of custom

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Speaker 11: Sulimani and Operation Midnight Hammers. So I would say, now,

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Speaker 11: those three things are the things he's proud of, st Off,

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Speaker 11: and he may be looking to add a fourth and

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Speaker 11: a fifth with another strike on Iran and in Cuba.

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Speaker 11: It's clear this is where his mind is though, and

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Speaker 11: you could add Greenland to that too.

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Speaker 1: I am going to I think is a big deal, Elianna,

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Speaker 1: and I want your quick take on it, because Noah

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Speaker 1: Rothman doesn't think it's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a big deal.

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Speaker 11: Oh you know, I don't know if we know yet, Hugh.

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Speaker 11: On the one hand, the president may have seen the

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Speaker 11: doo and the markets and climb down with some kind

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Speaker 11: of phony deal. I think that's the point no On

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Speaker 11: some of his colleagues at National Review we're making. On

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Speaker 11: the other hand, it may be that Rubio and the

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Speaker 11: Vice President and others negotiate American sovereignty over bases in Greenland,

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Speaker 11: and we really do get a dear deal for rare

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Speaker 11: earth minerals. I myself, I don't have a real knowledge

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Speaker 11: of where this is going to end up, but I'm

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Speaker 11: for it. I'm for the sovereignty over the basis.

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Speaker 1: I'm for the Golden Dome, and I'm for protecting the

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty mile exclusive economic zone, which US

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Speaker 1: sovereignty over some of the bases would give us the

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Speaker 1: right to.

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Speaker 2: Patrol and protect.

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Speaker 1: And that's something that I don't think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people know about the law.

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Speaker 2: They see.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Eleana Y Johnson, follow on exit Eleana Y Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Go see Bob sponge Pants again and again and again

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Speaker 1: until you can repeat every line.

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Speaker 2: In the movie.

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Speaker 1: Because that's what I did when I was your age,

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Speaker 1: Eleanor good to say you, thank you. I'll be right

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Speaker 1: back in America. Stay tuned back in America. I'm q

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Speaker 1: hewittt former United States Senator Jim Tallent. There's a senior

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Speaker 1: fellow at the Reagan Institute for Peace through Strength.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Jim, how are you?

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Speaker 8: I am doing well. Mis she Ewett, how are you good.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna play twenty question.

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Speaker 1: The twenty questions have to do with the ten movies

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Speaker 1: nominated for Best Movie of the Year by the Academy today,

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Speaker 1: and the questions are have you heard of it? And

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Speaker 1: have you seen it? For each each movie movie. Number

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Speaker 1: one Frankenstein, have you heard of it? Have you seen it? No?

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Speaker 8: And no? And I'm afraid a lot of my answers

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Speaker 8: are going to be along those lines.

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Speaker 2: All right. Number two Hamnet.

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Speaker 8: Hamnet?

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Speaker 2: Hamnet?

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Speaker 8: Is that Hamlet misspelled?

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Speaker 1: No, that's that's Hamlet with Hamlet, that's Hamlet with it

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Speaker 1: in it Hamnet?

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Speaker 8: No, definitely, no, and no.

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Speaker 2: The Secret Agent.

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Speaker 8: No, I like the song from the sixties Secret Agent.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't count for hearing about it, So that's a

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Speaker 2: no on the movie.

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Speaker 8: How about I used to jog to that song?

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Speaker 2: How about sentiment sentimental value?

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Speaker 8: No, I haven't seen it, No idea what it is?

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Speaker 8: No sinners, sinners, No sounds intriguing.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 8: Might catch it on streaming in a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Here's the best opportunity I've f one.

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Speaker 8: Now. I didn't see it, but I recognized that my

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Speaker 8: wife wanted to see it. Isn't that the one with

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Speaker 8: Brad Pitt.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there you go. You got one out of we

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Speaker 2: got one thus far. Train dreams, train dreams.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, Marty Supreme, Marty Supreme.

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Speaker 8: That's that draws another blank.

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Speaker 1: No, no, one battle after another, and they're not talking

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Speaker 1: about reconciliation.

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Speaker 8: I've heard of that one.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 8: I saw a couple of articles. I saw a couple

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Speaker 8: of articles, and I actually watched part of a video

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Speaker 8: saying how terrible the movie was.

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Speaker 1: That's two out of twenty, two out of eighteen. And finally, Begonia, Begonia.

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Speaker 2: I'm making this.

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Speaker 8: Wasn't that a country? Wasn't that a country? An old

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Speaker 8: Marx Brothers movie?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but you're you are two under twenty.

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Speaker 8: You're better, by the way as Fredonia.

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Speaker 1: You're better than Eliotta Johnson and Noah Rothman. So at

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Speaker 1: least you get heard of two of these movies. Jim,

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with Hollywood?

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Speaker 2: I used to go to.

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Speaker 1: Two movies a week until like five years ago before COVID. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think it's a combination of economics controlled by people

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Speaker 8: who don't care about the quality of the movies. Whatever

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Speaker 8: you think about the old Hollywood system, I mean the

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Speaker 8: men who ran it were ruthless, but they really didn't

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Speaker 8: care about producing good movies. And then of course the

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Speaker 8: whole there obsession with woke topics and messaging and the

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Speaker 8: rest of it has really interfered with the creative instincts

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Speaker 8: that they used to have.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's let me get to the last movie

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Speaker 2: I saw.

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Speaker 8: The last movie I saw was god Zilla Minus one,

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Speaker 8: which was very good.

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Speaker 1: You guess Japanese I missed that too, all right, very

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Speaker 1: from very silly Hollywood, very serious. Should President Iran strike Iran?

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Speaker 1: And willie President President Trump?

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Speaker 8: Okay, I think he should any any and I think

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Speaker 8: he will. But let me let me go into the

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Speaker 8: background or the reasoning for that. I mean, the reason

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Speaker 8: to do it. There are two reasons to do it.

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Speaker 8: One is because we said we would, and I think

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Speaker 8: it's important to sustain our credibility. And the second is

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Speaker 8: if it's done properly, it could further weaken the regime.

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Speaker 8: The reason not to do it, you is that the

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Speaker 8: rest of the Middle East is really going well now.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we're in phase two, which I think we

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Speaker 8: really have Hamas behind the eight ball. I mean, the

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Speaker 8: Lebanese president just said, you know, Hesbala's got to disarm,

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Speaker 8: got to leave. Syria and Israel are negotiating closer terms,

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Speaker 8: and so you know the old legal saying, when the

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Speaker 8: judge is going your way, you know, just be quiet.

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Speaker 8: And so there's a danger that if we hit Iran

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Speaker 8: it could disrupt some of those activities, which is one

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Speaker 8: of the reasons evidently our allies and partners have urged

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Speaker 8: us not to do it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 8: I think what the President's eventually going to do is

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Speaker 8: hit them in some very targeted way, but something that

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Speaker 8: will hurt them uniquely without disrupting the region, kind of

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Speaker 8: when he took out Cassin Solomani when was that two thousand.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, early early twenty memory of the talent.

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Speaker 8: I think he'll do.

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Speaker 1: I hope he hits carg Island, But people tell me

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Speaker 1: their reason not to the A Meet Segal, very very

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Speaker 1: serious Israeli analysts said one of the second order consequences

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Speaker 1: of President Trump obliterating the Iranian nuclear program was to

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Speaker 1: drive Saudi Arabia further away from the Abraham Accords because

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Speaker 1: they no longer need them. I had not considered that before,

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Speaker 1: but it meets a very good reporter. What do you

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Speaker 1: think about that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's I think it's very possible. I

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Speaker 8: believe Dwayne and I have discussed that on the pod

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Speaker 8: that one of the ironic outcomes of the real successes

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Speaker 8: over the last year is that is that the Gulf

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Speaker 8: States have less of a reason. I mean, they're less

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Speaker 8: afraidive Iran now, but personally, and you might want to

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Speaker 8: ask him eat this is. You know, the Saudis are

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Speaker 8: not stupid, and they know what President Trump wants. He

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Speaker 8: wants the Abraham Accords to be expanded, and there are

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Speaker 8: things they want and so by engaging in this kind

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Speaker 8: of a tactic, being a very reluctant partner in that respect,

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Speaker 8: they're probably hoping to get more. You know, there are

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Speaker 8: other countries besides the United States that are good at

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Speaker 8: pursuing their own interests. We don't see that very much

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Speaker 8: in Europe, but we do see it in the Middle East.

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Speaker 8: So that's what I suspect, because I think NBS wants

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Speaker 8: economic development for the country, he wants stability in the region,

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Speaker 8: he wants to modernize Saudi Arabia, and all of that

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Speaker 8: is advanced by the right kind of agreements with Israel,

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Speaker 8: which may or may not be a formal recognition. That

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Speaker 8: doesn't matter that much all, I think if we just continue.

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Speaker 1: So my last question is what do you make of

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Speaker 1: the Greenland outline as the President describe it, Provided it's accurate.

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Speaker 8: I like it and wrote a great column about it,

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Speaker 8: you know, because he actually read the National Security Strategy,

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Speaker 8: which in discussing Western hemisphere I think mentions five times

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Speaker 8: critical supply chains, the importance of military readiness. This whole episode,

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Speaker 8: this whole exercise for the last year, has been about

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Speaker 8: sending a signal that we're very interested in the Arctic

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Speaker 8: and we're going to pursue our claims there, that we're

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Speaker 8: very interested in showing up our supply chains, and Greenland

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Speaker 8: is an important part of that, and that we're going

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Speaker 8: to protect our hemisphere and pursue our own interests. And

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Speaker 8: we got an agreement. I don't know exactly what's in it,

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Speaker 8: but we'll have more freedom to operate militarily. We'll have

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Speaker 8: better access to the rare earths in Greenland, and that's

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Speaker 8: more than we had. So, you know, I don't think

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Speaker 8: President Trump ever really cared about getting sovereignty over Greenland.

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Speaker 8: He wants to integrate Greenland into America's national security strategy

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Speaker 8: for the Western Hemisphere. So you know, I'll wait to

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Speaker 8: see exactly what's in it, but it's got to be

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Speaker 8: better than what we had before, and I don't think

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Speaker 8: we would have gotten it if we hadn't combined this

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Speaker 8: pressure tactics with the negotiations.

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Speaker 2: Jim Tallon always good.

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Speaker 1: To talk with someone who actually thinks about national security

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Speaker 1: on a daily basis. Jim Talent can be followed on

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Speaker 1: x at Jim Talent follow me to the next segment

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Speaker 1: of Today's Hewit.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back America.

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Speaker 1: You Hewitt inside the Relief Factor Studio West. I don't

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Speaker 1: have to deal with what's coming at Josh Cross. Are

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Speaker 1: going to be a bad weekend in the Beltway, Josh,

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Speaker 1: you're ready for it.

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Speaker 12: You know, we haven't had a snowmageddon as they call

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Speaker 12: it here in about a decade. So the way the forecasters,

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Speaker 12: you guys know, you know in Ohio, you know that

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Speaker 12: you're you're used to that kind of snow, but we

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Speaker 12: haven't had more than a foot of snow in a

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Speaker 12: long time.

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Speaker 2: So I think the snow is better than icy rain.

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Speaker 2: So take the snow.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I have a drill, Josh, before we get.

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Speaker 7: To the real story.

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Speaker 1: I want to know if you have heard and then

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Speaker 1: seen the ten movies nominated for Best Picture. So heard

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Speaker 1: of and seen Frankenstein Yeah, No, no one.

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Speaker 9: No, no, No, you're Hamnett.

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Speaker 7: Hamnet never even heard of it.

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Speaker 2: The Secret Agent.

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Speaker 7: No, and No.

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Speaker 1: Sentimental Value no one, No Sinners, no one, no f one,

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Speaker 1: no one, No Trained Dreams.

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Speaker 7: No. I also haven't heard of that one either.

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Speaker 1: Marty Supreme, Yes, yes, and yes, Oh you've seen it.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's it's it's very good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it too. Okay, so that's what. That's

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Speaker 1: a hit though, one battle after another.

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Speaker 12: No, but I actually that's on my weekend snow watch lists.

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Speaker 2: So that's a yes. No, yes. And Bogonia no no.

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Speaker 2: So you're three out.

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Speaker 1: Of twenty and that's better than Noah Rothman, Eleana Johnson

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Speaker 1: and Jim Tallon.

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Speaker 2: So what's that tell you about Hollywood and movies?

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Speaker 12: Well, the disconnect between what's nominated for the Oscars and

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Speaker 12: what and I, Hugh, I actually try to see some

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Speaker 12: of the artsier critically acclaimed, you and me both, but

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Speaker 12: some of the ones I had not even heard of.

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Speaker 12: At least half of the I think three or four

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Speaker 12: of the ones you mentioned. I would want to make

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Speaker 12: a shout out for a song. I'm surprised song song

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Speaker 12: Blue was not nominated, because I like that was one

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Speaker 12: of the better I know, I liked it.

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Speaker 1: But they're not going to nominate things that people like,

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Speaker 1: and therefore they're not going to get oscars and no

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Speaker 1: one's ever going to hear of them. All right, let

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Speaker 1: me move on if I can, Josh to the big story.

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Speaker 1: Do you think President Trump is going to strike Iran?

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Speaker 1: And should he?

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Speaker 12: If you asked me that a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 12: I would have been more bullish given the comments made

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Speaker 12: by the President and a lot of his inner circle.

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Speaker 12: But at Davos, Steve Woodoff seemed to suggest that they

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Speaker 12: were going to be looking at a diplomatic option, and

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Speaker 12: that rhetoric was echoed by the President this morning and

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Speaker 12: announcing the Board of Peace.

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Speaker 7: And you know, it just feels like Trump. Trump is very.

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Speaker 12: Responsive to the headlines of the news, to the visuals

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Speaker 12: coming out of social media, and it does feel like

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Speaker 12: that even though we have moved military assets into the

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Speaker 12: Middle East and were prepared more so than we may

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Speaker 12: have been a week ago, it doesn't seem like right

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Speaker 12: now the administration is ready to strike. I admit I

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Speaker 12: could be surprised. The President had surprised me before, but

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Speaker 12: it just doesn't seem based on public comments from both

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Speaker 12: the President.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to ask you if you do

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Speaker 1: not remember, because I also fell for the head fake

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Speaker 1: last June when Midnight Hammer dropped, and I completely fell

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Speaker 1: for the head fake on Operation Absolute Resolve in the Duro.

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Speaker 2: I mean I just did.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, I mean, look, I I hesitate to make

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Speaker 12: predictions for that very reason, and I certainly I mean,

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Speaker 12: Trump has sort of gone back and forth in terms

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Speaker 12: of his rhetoric in the last week on Iran. But look,

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Speaker 12: there's every bit of evidence that that protesters continue to

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Speaker 12: be killed, the human rights disaster, that the you know,

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Speaker 12: the horrible atrocities that took place, that they're fresh in

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Speaker 12: my mind. But I wonder, given all the news of

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Speaker 12: the last week, whether it was Greenland, whether it was

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Speaker 12: you know, all the all the Davos back and forth,

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Speaker 12: whether that's not quite a quite its front and center

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Speaker 12: in the White House's mind.

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Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you about Greenland, Josh. There are

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Speaker 1: lots of reactions. I'm I'm I thought Trump made Davos

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Speaker 1: great again because it become kind of a joke and

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Speaker 1: he actually made news there and made it relevant. What

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Speaker 1: did you think about the Greenland deal and the Davos trip.

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Speaker 12: Look, I this seems to be a pattern with Trump,

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Speaker 12: and not always in the best of ways, foreign policy wise,

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Speaker 12: where we kind of create a chaotic situation, end up

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Speaker 12: backing down, coming up to some compromise, and kind of

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Speaker 12: getting back as we were.

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Speaker 7: You know, in square one, we're still kind of learning.

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Speaker 12: About the negotiations and the contours of a deal that

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Speaker 12: the US had been that Trump had been talking to

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Speaker 12: Mark Ruta, the NATO Secretary General, about.

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Speaker 7: Maybe we have more much more economy over.

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Speaker 12: A military bases in parts of Greenland, but we are

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Speaker 12: you know, this is something.

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Speaker 7: That could have been handled diplomatically.

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Speaker 12: There didn't need to be a rupture in the US

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Speaker 12: European relationship to get to the point where we are today.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think me let me might argue my case,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a rupture. There was an upset francois Accron,

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Speaker 1: whom nobody cares about. There's an upset EU that has

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Speaker 1: nothing to say about a NATO issue, and the eight

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Speaker 1: members of NATO did not rupture. So I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of tds on display here perhaps, and I

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Speaker 1: think it was unfortunate.

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Speaker 12: I mean, a lot of people are talking about the

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Speaker 12: Canadian Prime Minister's Mark Karney's speech, talking about this rupture,

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Speaker 12: and I can't help but think that he's already been

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Speaker 12: trying to improve build business ties and economic ties to China,

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Speaker 12: which is hard to square his comments the ideal the

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Speaker 12: more idealistic and and strategic comments that Carney made with

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Speaker 12: the Chinese relationship and the inattention to anti Semitism that

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Speaker 12: Canada has been playing in recent in recent years. So

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Speaker 12: you know, I do think there's a little bit of

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Speaker 12: posturing and a little bit of kind of chest thumping

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Speaker 12: from some of the Europeans, But I also think this

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Speaker 12: is a totally needless provocation, and I think there's no

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Speaker 12: national security Denmark and NATO and the eusually we're all

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Speaker 12: on pretty much the same page, and I think we

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Speaker 12: still are on the same page, aside from all the

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Speaker 12: threats that that Trump made. That that freaked the heck

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Speaker 12: out of the Scandinavians and the EU, and I don't

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Speaker 12: think that was necessary.

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Speaker 1: Well said Josh Cross is always following mine act at

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Speaker 1: Josh Crosshower.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned, I'll be right back here on the to

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Speaker 2: hew A Show.

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Speaker 7: Oh Man, God its hosts bow he got hit bumps.

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Speaker 7: But what do you say?

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Speaker 3: Street got big.

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Speaker 1: Gym welcome back in America. That music means big. Jim

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Speaker 1: Garretty is in the house with us. Guaranty the indispensable

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Speaker 1: Jim as. You are my cultural reporter. You're rite for

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post, you're rite for National Review. You do

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Speaker 1: the three Marbotini podcast. You're often on the editors podcast

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Speaker 1: for National Review. So you're a man of culture. The

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Speaker 1: Oscars were nominated. The nominations came out this morning. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking for your reactions to the Best Picture, all right,

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Speaker 1: number one, Frankenstein.

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Speaker 6: I at least heard of that one. Didn't see it,

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Speaker 6: don't expect to see it. Hamnet Okay, And I know

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Speaker 6: that's not a typo. You're not mispronouncing it. It actually

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Speaker 6: is an N, not an L. I have a big

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Speaker 6: I remember seeing it on the box office display. Didn't

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Speaker 6: see it.

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Speaker 2: The Secret Agent.

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Speaker 6: That's actually sounds good, but I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 2: Sentimental value.

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Speaker 6: You could be making up that one and I would

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Speaker 6: not be able to tell you whether it's.

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Speaker 2: True or not, not making it up. Wouldn't be wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be prudent, not gonna do it, wouldn't do it, sinners.

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Speaker 6: Okay, heard of that one. Haven't seen it. Heard people

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Speaker 6: raving about it. It's about vampires in the Old South,

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Speaker 6: So that one I'm not surprised by. At least it

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Speaker 6: permeated some, you know, with Michael B. Jordan as opposed

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Speaker 6: to the other Michael Jordan's.

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Speaker 2: It received sixteen Oscar nominations. F one.

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Speaker 6: Okay, actually saw that. I really, yes, really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 6: Kind of almost felt like old fashioned movie making. It's

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Speaker 6: not a groundbreaking story, but just really done. And I

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Speaker 6: saw it right around my birthday and the themes about

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Speaker 6: you know, pursuing greatness but also kind of passing the

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Speaker 6: torch to the new generation. I'll be rooting for that one.

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Speaker 6: I know it's never gonna win.

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Speaker 2: Brad Pittson, It's not gonna win. Uh, trained dreams.

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Speaker 6: Again. You can be making that up.

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Speaker 2: No, not man, you haven't seen that. No, No, all right, no,

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Speaker 2: Marty Supreme.

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Speaker 6: Okay, heard of that one. Heard people saying good things

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Speaker 6: about it, haven't seen it. I have only the vaguest

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Speaker 6: idea of what it's about don't really unlikely to see it.

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Speaker 2: I have seen it. They were lying to you one

888
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 2: battle after another.

889
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 6: Heard of that one. I hear from the likes of

890
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 6: Kyle Smith, who used to be with us at National Review,

891
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 6: now over at the Wall Street Journal. Just insufferably overhyped

892
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 6: and overdone, and the heavy handed political metaphor and all

893
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 6: that stuff. Leonardo DiCaprio, you know, to his credit, throws

894
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 6: himself into whatever role he's doing. But you know it's

895
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 6: about Trump being bad. So I figured that'll be I

896
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 6: didn't know that.

897
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: Another reason not to say it. I'd heard of it,

898
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: But now that I've heard you say that, I won't

899
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: see it and then begonia, I.

900
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 6: Feel like I might have heard. So is this about

901
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: the kidnapping of no idea?

902
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: Never heard of it? All right, So that's the list.

903
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 6: I have aig familiarity with it.

904
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: So I've seen F one and Marty Supreme. I've seen

905
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: two out of ten. I liked one out of ten,

906
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: the one that can't win because Brad pitching it. You've

907
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: seen none. You did see F one, you've seen one

908
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: out of it's actually one of them, and you've heard

909
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: of Center. So you've heard one more than I've heard of.

910
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: So what's that say about the movies? Or what's that

911
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: say about you? And what's that say about me?

912
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 6: Okay, well, what it says about me is that I

913
00:45:53,239 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 6: generally see action movies, superhero movies, you know, the summer

914
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 6: movie types.

915
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 7: Right.

916
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 6: I am not the target audience for most Oscar bait.

917
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 6: Doesn't mean I've never enjoyed them. But you know, we

918
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 6: all know what oscar bait is. You know, where you're

919
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 6: playing a character who's somewhat mentally challenged. And I won't

920
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 6: use the line from that Robert Downey Junior did no,

921
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 6: but nevertheless, the idea that, like, you know, often it's

922
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 6: someone who's trying to stretch as an actor, historical dramas.

923
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 6: You know, if you're playing anything with.

924
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: Daniel Lewis in it.

925
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, yeah, like and here's and if you if

926
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 6: those movies are your taste, great. You know, very rarely

927
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 6: have I seen a Oscar winner argo. I remember seeing

928
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago, which kind.

929
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: Of you've got robot? Actually do your robot kids go

930
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: to the movies?

931
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 6: Not that often will go see superhero movies. And we

932
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 6: actually felt pretty good about all three of the ones

933
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 6: that came out this year, Superman, Fantastic Four, and Thunderbolts.

934
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 6: We did not like the Captain America one did not work.

935
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 6: But they're like, we're you know, we're of the general

936
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 6: mainstream consensus. And for a long time the Marvel movies

937
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 6: are about as much fun as you could have in

938
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 6: the theaters. And then they did Endgame and it's been

939
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 6: very hit and miss since then. They're way back in

940
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 6: the day.

941
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: I know, I have young grandchildren, so my movie options

942
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: are very limited. I used to be with the fetching

943
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: missus Hewett, a two film a week person, when even

944
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: when my kids are in the house we.

945
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: Just loved movie. There aren't any movie.

946
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: Jim My point is it's collapsed, and I think this

947
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: list proves that am I making too much of a

948
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: point of it.

949
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 6: I don't know if the Oscar selections are the most

950
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 6: natural measuring stick, but what is indisputable is what they

951
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 6: used to call the middle class of movies, movies that

952
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 6: had a budget from like about fifteen million dollars two

953
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 6: hundred million dollars. A lot of comedies were in this category.

954
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 6: A lot of romantic comedies were in this kind of category.

955
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 6: That that's this basically has disappeared and that this was

956
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 6: where you know, Will Smith in Hitch would be that

957
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 6: kind of movie, you know with Kevin James or something

958
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 6: like that, right.

959
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: Like Kevin Goson movie Ever made?

960
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 6: Yes, exactly western. You know that that basically movies are

961
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 6: are either you know, small independent made with the almost

962
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 6: the money, or they are giant blockbusters that are designed

963
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 6: to have a theme park at you know, Universal or

964
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 6: Disney or something like that. So I think we will

965
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 6: miss these kind of movies.

966
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: The movies used to form the culture, and it was

967
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: my kids grew up on the movies. My grand kinswok

968
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: grew up on the movies.

969
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 7: I think.

970
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: I think I took my daughter to see Titanic ten

971
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: times when she was fourteen or thirteen. So we got

972
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: a minute to the break. We'll come back after Oscar's

973
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: something important. Are they dead dead dead dead dead by

974
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: streaming and by consensus that the filmmakers have lost their mind?

975
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: Or is it just a bad couple of decades.

976
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 6: Quote Billy Crystal in The Princess Bride, He's only mostly dead.

977
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 6: They're mostly dead because it now costs about twenty bucks

978
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 6: ahead at least where I am to go to the movies.

979
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 6: I you know, like you, I'd see movies maybe once

980
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 6: a week, once every two weeks, but they only cost

981
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 6: seven bucks. The more the ticket costs, the more the

982
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 6: movies gotta be good. The more of the movies got

983
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 6: to be something where you feel really good from the

984
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 6: trailer or the commercial, or you like the book or

985
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 6: something like that. Yeah, it becomes a much bigger risk

986
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 6: at twenty bucks ahead.

987
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm coming back with a technical question for Garritty because

988
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 1: his kids build robots.

989
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: And there they're bound from the school on the Charles

990
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: that actually learned the thing. So stay chimed.

991
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm back with Garrity the indispensable A. Gim is my

992
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: tech consultant, Jim. I have here my iPhone which is

993
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: many years old with my Cleveland Brown's orange on it.

994
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: By the way, that Jets don't get a quarterback.

995
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: Sorry, Dante Moore's going home rather than go to the Jets,

996
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get it new one today. Can I

997
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: say to the person at the Apple help desk, I'm

998
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: sure this has been hacked and has malware on it.

999
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I want my contacts, I want my number, and I

1000
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: don't want any malware. Can they make that work?

1001
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 6: Probably not, but they'll try to upsell you something with

1002
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 6: the much higher caliber spyware.

1003
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: You're not going to have.

1004
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 6: They're not going to have that basic spyware. We're going

1005
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 6: to give you the premium plus spyware.

1006
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: Are you telling me I got to get a new

1007
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: phone number in order to dump the spyware because we

1008
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: are talking to the chicoms right now because it's in

1009
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: the studio, and I tell you there's a reason it's

1010
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: not allowed into any building.

1011
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 6: So second time that I was in Ukraine, I ran

1012
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 6: into Tim Mock, who writes a newsletter news site called

1013
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 6: The counter Offensive, great reporter. Everybody should fow him on Twitter,

1014
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 6: subscribe to his thing. And he said that, you know,

1015
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 6: he goes through He was in Ukraine, went to Taiwan.

1016
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 6: I think he was somewhere else, like Kazakistan or something.

1017
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 6: And they tell you if you're going to places like

1018
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 6: this your cell phone, you know, you figure this is

1019
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 6: where they're most likely to try to get spyware in there,

1020
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 6: and they can do it remotely through wireless signals and

1021
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 6: stuff like that. So Tim Mack tolds us, I told

1022
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 6: us he's getting you know, he goes to some professional,

1023
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 6: high grade caliber person who can find spyware by foreign

1024
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 6: intelligence or anybody else who's out there trying to put

1025
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 6: it onto your phone, and he goes, they do the

1026
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 6: full review, they do the scan, and he is he says,

1027
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 6: they comes back clean, and he was so pissed. I'm

1028
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 6: so disappointed that nobody thought he was worth listening in on.

1029
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 6: And I kind of feel that kind of way. I

1030
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 6: kind of feel like if you if you told my

1031
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 6: phone and you said, Jim, you've been to Ukraine a

1032
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 6: bunch of times, no Russian spyware, You've been to Taiwan,

1033
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 6: nothing Chinese, I'd feel a little insulted. I've been told

1034
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 6: by reliable sources that both of those countries governments have

1035
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 6: a file on it. That probably just means a file

1036
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 6: just means they have a paper.

1037
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: We don't like this guy, so they actually wrote, now, Jim,

1038
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: I know, I know I've got spyware. When people come

1039
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: to the house for dinner who are in the government,

1040
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: they make me put it downstairs under a bunch of

1041
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: wooden crates, and then they still.

1042
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 6: I believe that you interview the president fairly regularly. I

1043
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 6: assume that when they're doing that, they not only scan

1044
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 6: all your recording equipment, they probably frisk you. I don't

1045
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 6: know if you feel like you've been to the proctologist.

1046
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 6: I'm just figuring anything as a full check.

1047
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: But do the robot kids help do having robot kids

1048
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: help you figure this stuff out?

1049
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 6: This is not really their specialty, but I will point

1050
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 6: out so glad you mentioned it to you, because like

1051
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 6: we're now deep January, early January is when they get

1052
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 6: the assignment. So my younger son, I'm never going to

1053
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 6: get to see them until the first competition. They are building,

1054
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 6: they are designing. They got electrical stuff to worry about. Uh,

1055
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 6: I'll get to see them like maybe a month from there.

1056
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: Do the power fail? Does the light flicker in the

1057
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 2: house at times?

1058
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 6: Thankfully they're not doing it here. Basically, yes, in northern Virginia,

1059
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 6: the power goes out. I'm really certain AI will become

1060
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 6: you know, sentient, and it's going to happen because of

1061
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 6: one of these robot fronts.

1062
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: Are you by the way, ten seconds do all the

1063
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: robot kids get together? What do they do for fun?

1064
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 5: All this?

1065
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 6: They are into this and it's someone I may write

1066
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 6: an article that you've made.

1067
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 7: In the world.

1068
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: You need to write a book. You need to write

1069
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 2: a book called Robot Kids. Here's your title.

1070
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, America, thank you, and and Adam, thank you, Harley,

1071
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: thank you generally. Shamli'm hu you have come back tomorrow

1072
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: to the next you at show