1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Life Audio My identity got stripped away from me and 2 00:00:07,380 --> 00:00:12,340 Speaker 1: I was left essentially with nothing and in a spot 3 00:00:12,380 --> 00:00:13,660 Speaker 1: where I had to start over. 4 00:00:14,290 --> 00:00:16,230 Speaker 2: But it is okay to be proud of that. It's 5 00:00:16,290 --> 00:00:18,530 Speaker 2: okay to be thankful for that. It's just not okay 6 00:00:18,570 --> 00:00:20,230 Speaker 2: to find our identity in that. 7 00:00:20,610 --> 00:00:25,110 Speaker 3: Men are now like trying to make that manhood transition 8 00:00:25,150 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: between like 30 and 35 years old instead of it 9 00:00:28,910 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: happening between like 17 and 22 years old. I can't 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,260 Speaker 3: have God in one part of my life and then 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: be teaching things that are counter to what God's principles 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,339 Speaker 3: are in my other area and now I'm just being 13 00:00:40,370 --> 00:00:44,110 Speaker 3: a hypocrite. I'm affecting their life, I'm affecting their families, 14 00:00:44,710 --> 00:00:49,650 Speaker 3: their job, and the future generations within their home based 15 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:52,660 Speaker 3: on the stuff that I'm pouring into them. It needs 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,620 Speaker 3: to line up scripturally. Or I'm damning this family. 17 00:00:59,180 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the March or Die show today. 18 00:01:01,620 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: Glad to have you joining. This is the show where 19 00:01:04,180 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: we do our very best every single episode to give 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,530 Speaker 2: you both the principles and perspectives you need to march 21 00:01:11,130 --> 00:01:13,130 Speaker 2: when it would be easier to stay where you are 22 00:01:13,350 --> 00:01:16,110 Speaker 2: and die. And very glad to have my guest on today. 23 00:01:16,170 --> 00:01:20,390 Speaker 2: My guest is Rich Graham from Full Spectrum Warrior. Rich 24 00:01:20,610 --> 00:01:24,510 Speaker 2: is a former Navy SEAL. We'll talk about Full Spectrum 25 00:01:24,530 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: and all the training they do. A lot of work there, 26 00:01:26,819 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: good work. Also an author, Full Spectrum Warrior Lifestyle. Make 27 00:01:31,740 --> 00:01:32,940 Speaker 2: sure I read that so I don't get it wrong. 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,369 Speaker 2: Full Spectrum Warrior Lifestyle. And Rich, man, I appreciate you 29 00:01:36,390 --> 00:01:40,550 Speaker 2: taking time to talk to us. And yeah, sometimes it's 30 00:01:40,590 --> 00:01:42,470 Speaker 2: not easy to get everything lined out. It took us 31 00:01:42,490 --> 00:01:44,450 Speaker 2: a while to get it scheduled because I just can't 32 00:01:45,050 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: do that very well. Finally got it scheduled. We've been 33 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:50,020 Speaker 2: working through some things, but thanks for coming on. I 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:50,610 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate the opportunity to join you on your show. 36 00:01:54,460 --> 00:01:55,140 Speaker 3: It's an honor to be here. 37 00:01:56,190 --> 00:01:59,470 Speaker 2: One of the things, Rich, I really appreciate about you 38 00:01:59,690 --> 00:02:02,990 Speaker 2: is you are a former Navy SEAL. You've done all 39 00:02:03,010 --> 00:02:07,500 Speaker 2: of that. We'll talk about that. What you're doing now, 40 00:02:07,860 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: gun training and combatives and kind of full spectrum, right? 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,500 Speaker 2: Teaching people how to defend themselves, defend the ones they love, 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,530 Speaker 2: all that we'll talk about. But on the other side 43 00:02:20,570 --> 00:02:23,739 Speaker 2: of that, or as we work through that, You do 44 00:02:23,780 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: such a good job articulating that our identity should not 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,660 Speaker 2: be found in those things, those things that a lot 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: of people have found their identities in, certainly in the 47 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: community that I come from, I'm part of, for the 48 00:02:35,980 --> 00:02:39,139 Speaker 2: many men and women that we serve. Identity is such 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,310 Speaker 2: a difficult thing to get a hold of because we're 50 00:02:43,350 --> 00:02:45,790 Speaker 2: so proud of our service, so proud of the uniform 51 00:02:45,850 --> 00:02:48,110 Speaker 2: and the rank and the jobs that we did. And 52 00:02:48,130 --> 00:02:51,410 Speaker 2: then coming out of that, the ability to take care 53 00:02:51,430 --> 00:02:55,590 Speaker 2: of ourselves, to defend ourselves, defend our families, defend our communities. 54 00:02:56,330 --> 00:02:58,290 Speaker 2: And yet there's more to it than that. And you 55 00:02:58,310 --> 00:03:01,670 Speaker 2: do such a good job articulating that. So, man, excited 56 00:03:01,690 --> 00:03:04,180 Speaker 2: to talk to you through so much of this and 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: then talk about your book. But for those that aren't 58 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:10,700 Speaker 2: familiar with you, give us your background. Why you went 59 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:15,370 Speaker 2: into the Navy? Why the SEALs? What happened there and 60 00:03:15,410 --> 00:03:17,590 Speaker 2: how you got into the work that you're doing through 61 00:03:17,850 --> 00:03:18,430 Speaker 2: Full Spectrum? 62 00:03:19,470 --> 00:03:25,340 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. There's a lot there. And I would agree 63 00:03:25,380 --> 00:03:28,900 Speaker 3: with what you're saying as far as the identity piece. 64 00:03:28,940 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: And it's such a huge piece. And we can talk 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: about that in a little bit. But essentially, I was 66 00:03:35,980 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: a wild kid, just very high energy, loved excitement. I 67 00:03:40,940 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: was really into anything that had to do with an 68 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,220 Speaker 3: adrenaline rush. I was not big into drinking and drugs 69 00:03:48,260 --> 00:03:52,410 Speaker 3: and all that. Um, which the adrenaline rush stuff kind 70 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: of got me into very, like very mischievous and, you know, 71 00:03:56,620 --> 00:04:01,500 Speaker 3: really pushing the envelope with, with, uh, doing things that were, 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,930 Speaker 3: you know, borderline gets you arrested. If you ever got caught, 73 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:07,910 Speaker 3: you know, uh, just wild teenager, you know what I mean? 74 00:04:07,930 --> 00:04:11,990 Speaker 3: I loved playing, uh, high paced contact sports like lacrosse. 75 00:04:12,870 --> 00:04:15,310 Speaker 3: I was very big into Thai boxing all through high 76 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:23,940 Speaker 3: school and street riding, BMX riding. And basically, I didn't 77 00:04:23,980 --> 00:04:26,340 Speaker 3: really know much about the SEAL teams and all that 78 00:04:26,980 --> 00:04:31,890 Speaker 3: until my junior year of high school. And I had 79 00:04:31,930 --> 00:04:34,950 Speaker 3: basically been being groomed to be an architect, which my 80 00:04:34,990 --> 00:04:36,570 Speaker 3: dad was an architect, and I was going to take 81 00:04:36,630 --> 00:04:38,810 Speaker 3: over the family business or kind of follow in his 82 00:04:38,890 --> 00:04:43,430 Speaker 3: lead and And I was looking at universities and had 83 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:48,590 Speaker 3: a couple scholarships to different schools for architecture, industrial design, 84 00:04:48,630 --> 00:04:52,050 Speaker 3: or engineering, depending on which the school was. And when 85 00:04:52,089 --> 00:04:55,330 Speaker 3: it came time to basically pull the trigger on committing 86 00:04:55,350 --> 00:04:59,529 Speaker 3: to an eight-year program, five years to get your degree, 87 00:04:59,550 --> 00:05:02,490 Speaker 3: and then another three years as an apprenticeship to get 88 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:05,390 Speaker 3: your license, it was a huge undertaking at the time. 89 00:05:05,420 --> 00:05:07,630 Speaker 3: And I just kind of got cold feet at the 90 00:05:07,650 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: last minute. And I had heard about This organization in 91 00:05:15,010 --> 00:05:17,620 Speaker 3: the Navy or this team, those are the Navy SEALs. 92 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:23,060 Speaker 3: This is like 1998, 1999. Before everyone wanted. 93 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,380 Speaker 2: To be a Navy SEAL, yeah. 94 00:05:24,580 --> 00:05:27,300 Speaker 3: Yeah, so no one really knew. I didn't really know 95 00:05:27,580 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: much about it. I just heard that there was a 96 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,860 Speaker 3: special operations unit, which was SEAL Team 4, that was 97 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: hunting drug dealers in Central and South America. And I 98 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:43,130 Speaker 3: was like, you know, teenage attitude, wait, so I can 99 00:05:43,170 --> 00:05:46,010 Speaker 3: go hunt drug dealers, not arrest them and not go 100 00:05:46,029 --> 00:05:48,570 Speaker 3: to jail if, you know, for taking out drug dealers, like, 101 00:05:48,970 --> 00:05:51,830 Speaker 3: how do I do that? And then everyone was like, well, 102 00:05:51,870 --> 00:05:56,940 Speaker 3: you can't really do that. You're, you know, I was 145, 103 00:05:56,940 --> 00:06:00,180 Speaker 3: 150 pounds at the time. And, you know, common thing 104 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,460 Speaker 3: that you hear from a lot of guys is, you know, 105 00:06:02,620 --> 00:06:06,270 Speaker 3: the community didn't basically believe in them. And my community 106 00:06:06,650 --> 00:06:08,450 Speaker 3: for the most part, didn't really believe in me. Um, 107 00:06:09,610 --> 00:06:12,710 Speaker 3: the only people who did believe me were like, Rich 108 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: is crazy enough that maybe he would make it, you know, 109 00:06:16,660 --> 00:06:20,020 Speaker 3: from all the stupid adrenaline junkie stuff that I've been doing, 110 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: you know, in high school. And, um, but for the 111 00:06:23,420 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: most part, it was like, dude, you're not big enough. 112 00:06:24,900 --> 00:06:29,029 Speaker 3: You're not strong enough. You know, um, you know, you're crazy, 113 00:06:29,050 --> 00:06:31,070 Speaker 3: but like, dude, this is a, there's a whole nother 114 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:33,510 Speaker 3: level kind of thing. And the more people that told 115 00:06:33,550 --> 00:06:35,690 Speaker 3: me I couldn't, the more interested I got in taking 116 00:06:35,730 --> 00:06:40,830 Speaker 3: on the challenge. So that basically, you know, um, I 117 00:06:40,890 --> 00:06:45,089 Speaker 3: went and, uh, talked to the recruiter and just said, Hey, 118 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: you know, if I can hold up my end of 119 00:06:46,740 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: the bargain, what do I need to do to join 120 00:06:48,620 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: this program? And, you know, basically got fast tracked, you know, through, um, 121 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,980 Speaker 3: kind of skipping a lot of like details, but basically 122 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: for long story short, um, Went to the Navy, got 123 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:01,930 Speaker 3: to Bud's, went through Bud's in my first try and, 124 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: you know, got to the SEAL team at like 19 125 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,260 Speaker 3: years old, 20 years old. Um, you know, so, uh, 126 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,850 Speaker 3: and then started that, started that process. 127 00:07:11,310 --> 00:07:14,550 Speaker 2: Yeah. What was your, um, growing up, what was your 128 00:07:14,570 --> 00:07:17,570 Speaker 2: faith walk like, or what was your exposure to church 129 00:07:17,650 --> 00:07:18,530 Speaker 2: or Christianity? 130 00:07:19,460 --> 00:07:22,750 Speaker 3: So I grew up in a Lutheran church. My great 131 00:07:22,790 --> 00:07:27,450 Speaker 3: grandfather actually founded the church. He wasn't the pastor, but 132 00:07:28,390 --> 00:07:32,510 Speaker 3: he had said my grandfather was one of 17 kids. 133 00:07:32,590 --> 00:07:34,130 Speaker 3: They were a farmer family. Wow. 134 00:07:34,590 --> 00:07:34,810 Speaker 1: Right. 135 00:07:34,890 --> 00:07:38,830 Speaker 3: So my great grandfather came over from Germany and he 136 00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: was like, this is too much work to move 19 people. 137 00:07:44,930 --> 00:07:49,150 Speaker 3: From where he was in this little, you know, farmer 138 00:07:49,230 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: town in New Jersey. At the time, now it's not 139 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,340 Speaker 3: a farmer town anymore. But at the time, it was 140 00:07:54,380 --> 00:07:58,500 Speaker 3: just like farmland. And it was like 15 miles to 141 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,820 Speaker 3: where the Lutheran church was. So he basically sponsored and 142 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:09,110 Speaker 3: built a church in our hometown of Maniscon. And basically 143 00:08:09,130 --> 00:08:12,270 Speaker 3: reached out and got a pastor to come in and basically, 144 00:08:12,410 --> 00:08:13,890 Speaker 3: you know, got the church started. 145 00:08:13,930 --> 00:08:14,150 Speaker 2: Oh, wow. 146 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,179 Speaker 3: And so I, I grew up going to that church 147 00:08:17,260 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: as a Lutheran church and, um, I went to Sunday 148 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:23,060 Speaker 3: school and all that. And then come like, you know, 149 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:29,310 Speaker 3: late grammar school, uh, you know, wanting, and then into 150 00:08:29,350 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: high school, like there was always something going on or, 151 00:08:32,730 --> 00:08:34,290 Speaker 3: you know, you wanted to go do things that were 152 00:08:34,330 --> 00:08:36,750 Speaker 3: more fun than going to church and getting dressed up 153 00:08:36,830 --> 00:08:39,069 Speaker 3: and sitting in there, you know? So once I kind 154 00:08:39,090 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: of like, was a teenager, I kind of stopped going 155 00:08:42,460 --> 00:08:46,420 Speaker 3: to church and then listening to the people within the 156 00:08:46,540 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: school environment, you know, uh, and being into like the 157 00:08:52,210 --> 00:08:55,530 Speaker 3: punk rock, you know, kind of scene in the, the 158 00:08:55,570 --> 00:08:58,650 Speaker 3: skater scene. And, you know, a lot of people there 159 00:08:58,770 --> 00:09:03,589 Speaker 3: kind of push back against authority and push back against rules. And, um, 160 00:09:05,490 --> 00:09:08,530 Speaker 3: you know, all of that, you start becoming like a 161 00:09:08,590 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 3: little bit less of a believer, a little bit more agnostic, 162 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: a little bit more, you know, if God's so great, 163 00:09:14,860 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: why would he, you know, allow certain things to happen? 164 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:23,750 Speaker 3: A lot of disgruntled views based on hearing that there's 165 00:09:23,809 --> 00:09:26,730 Speaker 3: pastors who might be pedophiles and this and that. So 166 00:09:26,750 --> 00:09:31,349 Speaker 3: through that time as like a teenager, I basically pulled 167 00:09:31,429 --> 00:09:34,110 Speaker 3: away from, from the, from the church. And then the 168 00:09:34,170 --> 00:09:39,030 Speaker 3: time I had in the SEAL teams, there was no, like, 169 00:09:40,750 --> 00:09:43,750 Speaker 3: I was not plugged in. I was not practicing. I 170 00:09:43,790 --> 00:09:47,540 Speaker 3: was not around other men who were, I know it's 171 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: a little bit different. 172 00:09:48,300 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: Now you hear. 173 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: About a lot of like team guys who are, you know, 174 00:09:52,340 --> 00:09:54,870 Speaker 3: walking in their faith while they're practicing the job and, 175 00:09:55,450 --> 00:09:57,220 Speaker 3: The group of guys that I was with, at least, 176 00:09:57,460 --> 00:10:01,060 Speaker 3: we had like one dude this week. one guy, Cortez, 177 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:06,100 Speaker 3: who was like a Catholic dude. And every, every night 178 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,830 Speaker 3: he just opened up and read his Bible. And he 179 00:10:08,850 --> 00:10:12,210 Speaker 3: was kind of like the weird one. You know what 180 00:10:12,290 --> 00:10:13,230 Speaker 3: I mean? 181 00:10:13,290 --> 00:10:13,469 Speaker 1: Right. 182 00:10:13,530 --> 00:10:16,969 Speaker 3: He's like the old soul. And it was like, Hey dude, 183 00:10:16,990 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: you want to go do this, this, and this. And he, 184 00:10:20,030 --> 00:10:22,370 Speaker 3: you know, we were off of work and he's like, no, dude, 185 00:10:23,150 --> 00:10:25,350 Speaker 3: I'm married. I have kids. You guys can go. And 186 00:10:25,370 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 3: he would just sit back and he was living like 187 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,550 Speaker 3: the monk lifestyle, you know, weirdest, you know, but he 188 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: was like the odd, odd man out. And, um, and 189 00:10:34,179 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 3: I really didn't just start coming into my faith walk 190 00:10:37,020 --> 00:10:41,420 Speaker 3: until after my time in the Navy, which goes back 191 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,900 Speaker 3: into the identity thing of my identity got stripped away 192 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: from me. And I was left, left, essentially with nothing 193 00:10:51,460 --> 00:10:53,420 Speaker 3: and in a spot where I had to start over 194 00:10:53,440 --> 00:11:00,250 Speaker 3: and um and and then through the process which which 195 00:11:00,290 --> 00:11:02,030 Speaker 3: we can talk about if we get into like the 196 00:11:02,150 --> 00:11:07,609 Speaker 3: faith story was God and the whole like through the 197 00:11:07,650 --> 00:11:11,589 Speaker 3: Holy Spirit God kept being revealed to me and what 198 00:11:11,630 --> 00:11:14,740 Speaker 3: I was chalking off for a long time as coincidence 199 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,510 Speaker 3: I started coming to the you know, using a little 200 00:11:18,530 --> 00:11:22,050 Speaker 3: more discernment and coming to the realization that, you know, 201 00:11:22,740 --> 00:11:25,620 Speaker 3: God has been there and the Holy spirit has been 202 00:11:25,660 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: working on me. I just was tuning out the radio, 203 00:11:29,179 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And missing all the messages 204 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,390 Speaker 3: and through the process moving forward from that point is 205 00:11:36,410 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: when I started to like, uh, connect all the dots and, and, um, 206 00:11:43,220 --> 00:11:46,050 Speaker 3: and actually start to identify how God was actually working 207 00:11:46,110 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: my life, even though I wasn't aware of it. 208 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:50,930 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Well, one of the things that I 209 00:11:50,970 --> 00:11:56,330 Speaker 2: think we, we sometimes get wrong maybe about the identity 210 00:11:56,390 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: thing coming out of the military is it is okay 211 00:12:00,340 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: to be proud of what we did in the military, right? 212 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: Like to become a Navy SEAL. Um, I was a Marine, 213 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,460 Speaker 2: so I think everyone should have, you know, went into 214 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,020 Speaker 2: the Marine Corps, but you went into the Navy. Um, 215 00:12:10,059 --> 00:12:13,179 Speaker 2: and that's fine. It's okay. Um, became a Navy SEAL. 216 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,309 Speaker 2: I mean, the path to do that is very, very difficult. 217 00:12:17,410 --> 00:12:19,830 Speaker 2: There's a reason it's, you know, whatever the percentage is 218 00:12:19,950 --> 00:12:23,370 Speaker 2: of people who don't do it, right? And so it 219 00:12:23,770 --> 00:12:26,010 Speaker 2: is something to be proud of. And then, you know, 220 00:12:26,030 --> 00:12:29,670 Speaker 2: 9-11 happens. And so you're taking those skills forward. You're 221 00:12:29,690 --> 00:12:32,150 Speaker 2: doing the job that you were trained to do. And 222 00:12:32,990 --> 00:12:35,890 Speaker 2: we can be proud of that. And so it's, I 223 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:39,220 Speaker 2: think sometimes we do a disservice to the things that 224 00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:42,220 Speaker 2: God brings us into and through and the places that 225 00:12:42,260 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: he teaches us when we say, well, I need to 226 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,020 Speaker 2: kind of walk away from my past, walk away from 227 00:12:49,070 --> 00:12:52,070 Speaker 2: what I did to find this new identity in Christ. 228 00:12:52,950 --> 00:12:54,730 Speaker 2: In a way, for a while, that's what I did. 229 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:59,250 Speaker 2: I kind of went, I can't hang on to like this. 230 00:13:00,190 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: I was a combat veteran in the Marine Corps. I 231 00:13:02,700 --> 00:13:05,819 Speaker 2: did these things. And now I'm home. Now I'm trying 232 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,580 Speaker 2: to be a Christian. So I was almost the other way, right? 233 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,540 Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like in the military, I can't be 234 00:13:10,570 --> 00:13:11,949 Speaker 2: a Christian. It was like, once I got out of 235 00:13:11,970 --> 00:13:14,849 Speaker 2: the military, I need to stop talking about what I 236 00:13:14,890 --> 00:13:17,150 Speaker 2: did back here. But it is okay to be proud 237 00:13:17,170 --> 00:13:19,490 Speaker 2: of that. It's okay to be thankful for that. It's 238 00:13:19,530 --> 00:13:21,949 Speaker 2: just not okay to find our identity in that. 239 00:13:22,610 --> 00:13:23,309 Speaker 3: I don't know if. 240 00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:25,550 Speaker 2: That makes sense. But when you talk about that, I'm like, man, 241 00:13:25,630 --> 00:13:27,010 Speaker 2: you have so much to be proud of. And I 242 00:13:27,150 --> 00:13:30,990 Speaker 2: want to be careful not to communicate like we shouldn't 243 00:13:31,030 --> 00:13:32,929 Speaker 2: be proud of our service or something. We should be 244 00:13:33,130 --> 00:13:34,220 Speaker 2: because it was important. 245 00:13:35,050 --> 00:13:40,430 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. And I'm you know, guys like talk 246 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: about how weak is like the common thing with Navy 247 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: SEAL stuff. Everyone always wants to know about how weak 248 00:13:45,540 --> 00:13:48,620 Speaker 3: and for people who haven't aren't familiar with that. It's 249 00:13:48,660 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: like our crucible kind of thing coming into the community 250 00:13:52,220 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: where you have like five and a half days where 251 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,770 Speaker 3: you have to be doing super strenuous physical activity, all 252 00:13:59,809 --> 00:14:03,330 Speaker 3: these team drills and you don't really sleep for five 253 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:08,430 Speaker 3: and a half days and Most people quit during that 254 00:14:09,010 --> 00:14:13,349 Speaker 3: challenge and it basically weeds out a huge majority of 255 00:14:13,370 --> 00:14:15,590 Speaker 3: the people who say they want to be Navy SEALs 256 00:14:16,270 --> 00:14:19,690 Speaker 3: and then they never become one. And that's like one 257 00:14:19,730 --> 00:14:27,130 Speaker 3: of the big, you know, qualification points of testing your willpower, 258 00:14:27,210 --> 00:14:30,290 Speaker 3: your mental fortitude and all that stuff. And a lot 259 00:14:31,330 --> 00:14:35,090 Speaker 3: of people are afraid of that, of man, you know, 260 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: this hell week thing's coming and I don't know if 261 00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:41,020 Speaker 3: I'm going to make it or whatever. And for me, 262 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,140 Speaker 3: that was such a great opportunity. And, you know, I'm 263 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:48,300 Speaker 3: so thankful for that opportunity. Because if you look at 264 00:14:48,350 --> 00:14:53,050 Speaker 3: like old tribal, you know, times where you had all 265 00:14:53,070 --> 00:14:56,050 Speaker 3: these cultures and it's the same in almost every culture. 266 00:14:56,070 --> 00:14:59,530 Speaker 3: At some point in time, you're boys and you want 267 00:14:59,550 --> 00:15:02,570 Speaker 3: to be amongst the men. And there's some type of 268 00:15:02,650 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: challenge that you have to do. That basically allows you 269 00:15:06,060 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: to come into manhood and like sit at the fire 270 00:15:09,140 --> 00:15:11,500 Speaker 3: with the men. Not that you have wisdom and you 271 00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:14,300 Speaker 3: have like real world experience or anything like that. So 272 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: even when you get there, it's time to shut up 273 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: and learn. Right. But you're at the man's table now. 274 00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:23,910 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And and having the opportunity 275 00:15:23,930 --> 00:15:28,750 Speaker 3: to go through how weak and test yourself. and be 276 00:15:28,850 --> 00:15:31,590 Speaker 3: able to earn not only the respect of the guys 277 00:15:31,610 --> 00:15:33,989 Speaker 3: that you're getting ready to work with, but to earn 278 00:15:34,010 --> 00:15:37,270 Speaker 3: your own respect of like, Hey, whatever it is that 279 00:15:37,310 --> 00:15:39,710 Speaker 3: I want to put my mind to, you know, like 280 00:15:40,330 --> 00:15:43,750 Speaker 3: mind over matter. Like I can, I can succeed at 281 00:15:43,810 --> 00:15:44,970 Speaker 3: whatever the task is. 282 00:15:45,350 --> 00:15:45,610 Speaker 2: Right. 283 00:15:45,690 --> 00:15:49,210 Speaker 3: And I have what it takes. Um, and, and I 284 00:15:49,270 --> 00:15:51,210 Speaker 3: deserve to be at the man's table. You know what 285 00:15:51,230 --> 00:15:54,110 Speaker 3: I mean? And I feel like this is, this is a, 286 00:15:55,010 --> 00:15:59,890 Speaker 3: a lost opportunity in the current culture to, of uh 287 00:16:00,230 --> 00:16:03,530 Speaker 3: guys leaving high school and going into college and college 288 00:16:03,630 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: used to be a big deal and now it's like 289 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,100 Speaker 3: you graduate college and you know okay well yeah you 290 00:16:11,140 --> 00:16:12,700 Speaker 3: call you got a college degree but you have a 291 00:16:12,740 --> 00:16:14,950 Speaker 3: master's degree and now you have to go in to 292 00:16:14,990 --> 00:16:17,430 Speaker 3: get a master's degree and then by the time you 293 00:16:17,470 --> 00:16:20,410 Speaker 3: finish that process you're in your mid to late 20s 294 00:16:20,930 --> 00:16:24,030 Speaker 3: and all you have to show for it is massive 295 00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:27,710 Speaker 3: amounts of of debt and you haven't actually done the 296 00:16:27,790 --> 00:16:31,810 Speaker 3: job yet that you've been training and learning about and 297 00:16:31,870 --> 00:16:34,130 Speaker 3: spending all this school time and then when it comes 298 00:16:34,170 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: into building families and stuff like that they don't you 299 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: don't feel like you're in a position to get married 300 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,420 Speaker 3: and start a family because you don't have an income 301 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:46,609 Speaker 3: yet which puts us in this like you know, this 302 00:16:46,750 --> 00:16:51,370 Speaker 3: very awkward position to where men are now like trying 303 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: to make that manhood transition between like 30 and 35 304 00:16:55,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: years old, instead of it happening between like 17 and 305 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,940 Speaker 3: 22 years old. You know what I mean? And so 306 00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:06,260 Speaker 3: like one of the things that I'm super thankful for 307 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:12,660 Speaker 3: is having the opportunity to challenge myself in that way. 308 00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:16,350 Speaker 3: like the other guys had had the opportunity to, to 309 00:17:17,580 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: basically carry that into the, the, the like civilian world 310 00:17:23,780 --> 00:17:26,380 Speaker 3: of like, Hey, it doesn't matter what the task is. 311 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 3: Like you put it in front of me and I'll 312 00:17:28,330 --> 00:17:32,050 Speaker 3: find a way to win, you know, um, even if 313 00:17:32,109 --> 00:17:34,050 Speaker 3: it's something that's a little bit out of my strength zone, 314 00:17:34,109 --> 00:17:36,300 Speaker 3: like I'll, I'll figure it out, you know? And I, 315 00:17:36,350 --> 00:17:39,169 Speaker 3: and I think that's something that is really important. And 316 00:17:39,210 --> 00:17:42,170 Speaker 3: if it's not going through how weak, you know, but, 317 00:17:42,430 --> 00:17:45,470 Speaker 3: you know, giving young men the opportunity in some way 318 00:17:46,109 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: to have that, that, um, that defining moment in their, 319 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: in their, you know, transition from a teenage boy into like, 320 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: now I'm, I'm a man, you know what I mean? 321 00:17:58,980 --> 00:18:02,660 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Yeah. And it's, it's taking that lesson. 322 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,460 Speaker 2: That's a great way to put that. You have to 323 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,330 Speaker 2: take those lessons though, and then use them once you, 324 00:18:07,810 --> 00:18:09,830 Speaker 2: once you exit the military. And I think one of 325 00:18:09,869 --> 00:18:13,369 Speaker 2: the struggles for a lot of people who have served 326 00:18:13,730 --> 00:18:16,710 Speaker 2: is that they feel like the most important thing they 327 00:18:16,790 --> 00:18:19,109 Speaker 2: ever did was what they did while they were in 328 00:18:19,130 --> 00:18:23,250 Speaker 2: the military. And so, you know, I'm thankful, obviously, for veterans. 329 00:18:23,310 --> 00:18:27,300 Speaker 2: We serve veterans. I am a veteran. But we have 330 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,180 Speaker 2: to really fight the urge to be, like, the veteran guy, right? Like, 331 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,900 Speaker 2: my identity now is not military, it's veteran, because that's 332 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,740 Speaker 2: the most important thing that I did. Instead of taking 333 00:18:39,780 --> 00:18:43,310 Speaker 2: those lessons, understanding how valuable they are, I learned things 334 00:18:43,450 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: about leadership. I learned things about... I learned things about myself. 335 00:18:47,619 --> 00:18:50,180 Speaker 2: I learned how to do hard things and push through 336 00:18:50,220 --> 00:18:54,010 Speaker 2: when it seems like everything's against me. So taking those 337 00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:58,190 Speaker 2: lessons and instead of saying, well, that was the pinnacle, saying, no, 338 00:18:58,230 --> 00:19:00,609 Speaker 2: I'm going to take those lessons and then leverage them 339 00:19:00,730 --> 00:19:03,070 Speaker 2: to be successful in other areas of my life. And 340 00:19:03,090 --> 00:19:06,050 Speaker 2: I think that is one of the missing components for 341 00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:08,370 Speaker 2: a lot of people who transition. Yeah. 342 00:19:08,570 --> 00:19:12,939 Speaker 3: And I think from, well, I mean, I'm in the 343 00:19:12,980 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: business of teaching, right? And so I'm just getting over, 344 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,550 Speaker 3: like I had a case of pneumonia. So I just 345 00:19:20,570 --> 00:19:24,429 Speaker 3: have that like stupid nagging cough that's following it. But, um, 346 00:19:24,450 --> 00:19:28,010 Speaker 3: you know, it's one of those things where from a 347 00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:32,470 Speaker 3: firearms training standpoint, like people come and they want to 348 00:19:32,490 --> 00:19:34,770 Speaker 3: run a gun and train like a Navy SEAL, you know, 349 00:19:34,830 --> 00:19:37,470 Speaker 3: and all this kind of stuff. And there's a lot 350 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:40,210 Speaker 3: of guys who get out and they want to teach 351 00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:45,770 Speaker 3: a what they were doing in the military because the 352 00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:49,149 Speaker 3: civilian market thinks it's really cool and it's exciting or whatever. 353 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's one of 354 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,860 Speaker 3: those things where we have to ask ourselves, is this 355 00:19:55,900 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: about me or is it about the client? And if 356 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:04,969 Speaker 3: we're teaching someone family home protection, And it's like, well, 357 00:20:04,990 --> 00:20:06,750 Speaker 3: there's a way we did it in the seal teams. 358 00:20:07,470 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: And like, you probably have a way you guys did 359 00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:10,950 Speaker 3: it in the Marines of how we're going to clear 360 00:20:11,020 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 3: structures and all that stuff, you know? Um, but at 361 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: the same time, the looking at the, the civilian or 362 00:20:20,220 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 3: the homeowner, the father, whatever, who's trying to protect their home, 363 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: it's well, it's, I'm going to take bits and pieces 364 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,460 Speaker 3: of what I learned and did and my experiences within 365 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,270 Speaker 3: the military and And I have to be able to 366 00:20:34,290 --> 00:20:42,930 Speaker 3: review those, right? Identify what key points are, are relevant 367 00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:46,540 Speaker 3: and are critical for me sharing with this individual. And 368 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: then what things that I learned and what lessons that 369 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:55,530 Speaker 3: I learned that I can take and modify and To 370 00:20:55,730 --> 00:21:01,130 Speaker 3: fit the environment the intent the desired outcome the legal 371 00:21:01,570 --> 00:21:05,730 Speaker 3: framework That this person that i'm going to teach needs 372 00:21:06,210 --> 00:21:08,370 Speaker 3: so that way what i'm sharing with them and what 373 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:13,989 Speaker 3: i'm teaching with them is specific for um for the 374 00:21:14,130 --> 00:21:18,420 Speaker 3: outcome that i'm trying to get them versus Well, what 375 00:21:18,460 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: was I doing when I when I was in and 376 00:21:21,220 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: for me that That is in the form of firearms training. 377 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, when we're clearing a structure 378 00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:30,419 Speaker 3: with a bunch of Navy SEALs, like, okay, well, we 379 00:21:30,460 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 3: have night vision. We have team tactics that we've been practicing. 380 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: We have gear that we're wearing. We have communication headsets 381 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:43,170 Speaker 3: and radios. Maybe there's new technology that we're using or 382 00:21:44,790 --> 00:21:48,550 Speaker 3: there's explosives that we have. These are all things that 383 00:21:48,590 --> 00:21:53,010 Speaker 3: the dude protecting his house doesn't have. So the way 384 00:21:53,050 --> 00:21:55,780 Speaker 3: that we were doing it in the team does not 385 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: directly correlate to how the person would be doing it 386 00:21:59,020 --> 00:22:02,380 Speaker 3: within their home. The intent of the mission that we're 387 00:22:02,420 --> 00:22:05,379 Speaker 3: doing in the team is different than the intent of 388 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,859 Speaker 3: the mission for someone protecting their house. One's an assault, 389 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 3: one's a defense. You know what I mean? One, we 390 00:22:10,420 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: chose the time and place to do the attack. The other, 391 00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:16,590 Speaker 3: you were surprised and caught off guard because now you're 392 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:19,590 Speaker 3: on the side of being assaulted. You know what I mean? 393 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:28,220 Speaker 3: So as we would basically reorganize and restructure the key 394 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,699 Speaker 3: lessons that we've learned and the things and experiences that 395 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,540 Speaker 3: we've had to make it relevant and fitting to the client, 396 00:22:34,940 --> 00:22:39,649 Speaker 3: you know, I think that's one of the flexibility challenges 397 00:22:39,690 --> 00:22:43,750 Speaker 3: that I think is really good for guys coming out 398 00:22:43,770 --> 00:22:46,380 Speaker 3: of the military to practice or law enforcement or whatever 399 00:22:46,410 --> 00:22:49,340 Speaker 3: to practice of how do I take what I've learned 400 00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:52,860 Speaker 3: before and figure out how do I restructure this for 401 00:22:52,900 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: the key things that I need to bring over to 402 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: make it relevant for the next thing that I'm trying 403 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: to do. Yeah. 404 00:23:02,570 --> 00:23:05,390 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. And that's, in a sense, it's redeeming 405 00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:07,570 Speaker 2: that time, right? It's not letting it be a waste. 406 00:23:07,630 --> 00:23:09,609 Speaker 2: It's like, that was a phase. It's done. I'm not 407 00:23:09,650 --> 00:23:12,030 Speaker 2: doing anything with it. No, you take the lessons, you 408 00:23:12,050 --> 00:23:14,609 Speaker 2: apply the lessons to your current situation, whatever that is, 409 00:23:15,490 --> 00:23:19,109 Speaker 2: and then, you know, redeem that time and use it 410 00:23:19,130 --> 00:23:24,020 Speaker 2: for something good and valuable. That's awesome. And you did that. 411 00:23:24,210 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: You started a company. Can you talk about full spectrum, 412 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,820 Speaker 2: what you do? But then like beyond that, I love 413 00:23:31,859 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: your logo. I like the name. Talk about what it 414 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,340 Speaker 2: means to really be a full-spectrum warrior. When you talk 415 00:23:39,380 --> 00:23:41,820 Speaker 2: about that, and that kind of seems like your DNA, 416 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: what does that mean to you? So talk about what 417 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,260 Speaker 2: you do, but then why full-spectrum warrior and what that means. 418 00:23:48,980 --> 00:23:55,010 Speaker 3: Okay. So my niche is basically doing firearms instruction. That's 419 00:23:55,150 --> 00:23:59,369 Speaker 3: what my biggest thing on my business model is people 420 00:23:59,410 --> 00:24:04,940 Speaker 3: come here to train and to learn skills as it 421 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,179 Speaker 3: revolves to pistol, precision rifle, carbine work, all that kind 422 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,859 Speaker 3: of stuff. And I've built a really cool facility out 423 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:16,290 Speaker 3: here in the national forest. My property is surrounded by 424 00:24:16,330 --> 00:24:22,090 Speaker 3: national forest, but we have a very unique training location that, 425 00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:26,909 Speaker 3: that people come out to and get to experience training 426 00:24:26,930 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: in an un-micromanaged kind of way, because it's just with the, 427 00:24:31,220 --> 00:24:34,070 Speaker 3: with the few people that are out here at the time. Um, 428 00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: but with that being said, like I mentioned, you know, 429 00:24:37,859 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: I was big into Thai boxing growing up and, uh, 430 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,220 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of guys can relate to this, uh, 431 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,689 Speaker 3: cause more people do like jujitsu or martial arts and 432 00:24:47,710 --> 00:24:50,010 Speaker 3: stuff like that than they do, you know, fighting in 433 00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:52,550 Speaker 3: the SEAL teams. So if we were to take it to, 434 00:24:52,810 --> 00:24:56,070 Speaker 3: you know, the average person who loves watching UFC fights 435 00:24:56,590 --> 00:24:59,460 Speaker 3: and all that, you know, being a full spectrum warrior is, um, 436 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:05,050 Speaker 3: There's one thing about learning the technique, the technical skill 437 00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:08,350 Speaker 3: of putting someone in an armbar or in a rear 438 00:25:08,410 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: naked choke or the technical skill of this is how 439 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,380 Speaker 3: you throw a punch. These are like, let me teach 440 00:25:14,420 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: you the fundamentals for shooting a pistol. You know what 441 00:25:17,340 --> 00:25:19,590 Speaker 3: I mean? These are the seven fundamentals. And if you 442 00:25:19,619 --> 00:25:21,850 Speaker 3: practice them, you can be really good at it. that 443 00:25:21,890 --> 00:25:24,530 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that if someone pulls a knife on you 444 00:25:24,570 --> 00:25:27,090 Speaker 3: at the gas station, your gun's in a holster or 445 00:25:27,130 --> 00:25:29,710 Speaker 3: in the car, that doesn't mean because you understand the 446 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:32,469 Speaker 3: seven fundamentals of pistol shooting, you're going to win the 447 00:25:32,510 --> 00:25:35,490 Speaker 3: exchange at the gas pump. And just because you know 448 00:25:35,530 --> 00:25:37,449 Speaker 3: how to do an armbar, if you go on and 449 00:25:37,530 --> 00:25:39,929 Speaker 3: fight someone in the ring, that doesn't mean you're going 450 00:25:39,950 --> 00:25:43,290 Speaker 3: to win because maybe they know something too. So when 451 00:25:43,330 --> 00:25:46,389 Speaker 3: we start to reverse engineer this, if we want to 452 00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:50,419 Speaker 3: be successful in, fighting with a pistol, we have to 453 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 3: understand that maybe there's going to be a fight that 454 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,750 Speaker 3: happens prior to me even getting my hands on the 455 00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,590 Speaker 3: gun that I have to actually win first. So if 456 00:26:00,630 --> 00:26:02,650 Speaker 3: I want to be good with my hands and be good, 457 00:26:03,230 --> 00:26:06,910 Speaker 3: you know, at combat sports, I need to be good 458 00:26:06,970 --> 00:26:09,129 Speaker 3: with the technical skills, but then I also have to 459 00:26:09,170 --> 00:26:12,500 Speaker 3: be able to follow through and be able to put 460 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 3: that into practical application, which then takes us to the 461 00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:18,210 Speaker 3: next step back and Where, okay, well, if I'm going 462 00:26:18,250 --> 00:26:22,180 Speaker 3: to be strong with someone who also has technical skills, right, 463 00:26:22,380 --> 00:26:25,300 Speaker 3: and has good practical application, well, now it comes into 464 00:26:25,380 --> 00:26:31,670 Speaker 3: who's stronger, who has more endurance, who has more explosive power. 465 00:26:31,710 --> 00:26:33,890 Speaker 3: So that brings us into like, well, what is my 466 00:26:33,970 --> 00:26:39,270 Speaker 3: training regimen? That supports my technical skill and practical application. 467 00:26:39,390 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: So now we're looking at what we do in the gym. 468 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,500 Speaker 3: When we look at what we do in the gym, 469 00:26:43,540 --> 00:26:47,780 Speaker 3: what are we reinforcing that with as far as diet goes, right? 470 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,820 Speaker 3: And for us to have a good diet, to have 471 00:26:49,859 --> 00:26:52,570 Speaker 3: a good gym regimen, to be going to our classes 472 00:26:52,619 --> 00:26:55,610 Speaker 3: and training, well, that takes discipline. So now we have 473 00:26:55,650 --> 00:26:58,770 Speaker 3: to have goal setting, discipline, schedule, like this is a 474 00:26:58,869 --> 00:27:02,989 Speaker 3: planned process. It just doesn't happen by chance. You know 475 00:27:03,010 --> 00:27:06,129 Speaker 3: what I mean? So as I've spent time over the 476 00:27:06,170 --> 00:27:10,140 Speaker 3: last like 15 years going from the dude who was 477 00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 3: doing the job and just in it, not really like 478 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: thinking about it because I was young and ambitious. Right. 479 00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: And I was excited to do it. And now working 480 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: with guys who are supposed to be doing the job 481 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 3: and maybe the job isn't as exciting as it once was, 482 00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:30,460 Speaker 3: you know, working with firefighters who have let themselves go. 483 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: We're working with law enforcement officers who, who keep failing, 484 00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: trying to try out for the SWAT team. You know 485 00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: what I mean? And they've got basically stuck or dudes 486 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: who work in the corporate world who just lost their, 487 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,300 Speaker 3: their fire and, and, uh, and, and don't have like 488 00:27:46,340 --> 00:27:49,889 Speaker 3: a good self image. You know what I mean? Like going, 489 00:27:50,869 --> 00:27:54,970 Speaker 3: once we start deconstructing it or reverse engineering it, like 490 00:27:55,010 --> 00:27:57,370 Speaker 3: I was just explaining, um, you get to a point 491 00:27:57,410 --> 00:28:00,609 Speaker 3: where this then starts transitioning into almost like a life 492 00:28:00,690 --> 00:28:04,060 Speaker 3: coaching kind of thing to where we're getting to the 493 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,430 Speaker 3: point where the physical part is ending and it's transitioning 494 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: over into the mental part where we talk about attitude. 495 00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: We talk about, you know, ambition, about being a team player, 496 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,260 Speaker 3: about taking personal responsibility, you know, and as we follow 497 00:28:19,340 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 3: that trail further, we basically find ourselves back into the 498 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,900 Speaker 3: spiritual warfare faith talk. You know what I mean? What 499 00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: is the root of the evil behind the manipulation or 500 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: the strongholds or the discouragement or the poor self-image? And 501 00:28:37,859 --> 00:28:41,700 Speaker 3: eventually it gets us back into that spiritual warfare, which 502 00:28:41,740 --> 00:28:46,350 Speaker 3: then we start to rebuild back the opposite direction from 503 00:28:46,390 --> 00:28:49,860 Speaker 3: a spiritual level back to where we started with. with 504 00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: the technical skills, which is like the technical skill part 505 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:56,380 Speaker 3: is the easiest part of the process. But, um, to 506 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:03,140 Speaker 3: really be a well-rounded fighter, whether it's physically, spiritually, or emotionally, intellectually, 507 00:29:03,220 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: like it's a, it's a combination of that spiritual fight 508 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:10,850 Speaker 3: and the physical fight going, going back and forth and 509 00:29:10,910 --> 00:29:12,670 Speaker 3: finding balance through the process. 510 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: That's awesome. I love it. It's kind of the very 511 00:29:17,420 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: holistic approach. It's understanding that there are different types of 512 00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:27,780 Speaker 2: attacks and different styles of attack, and whether that be 513 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:32,030 Speaker 2: physical or spiritual, emotional, speaking to self-image and some of 514 00:29:32,050 --> 00:29:34,510 Speaker 2: those things, we have to be strong in all of 515 00:29:34,530 --> 00:29:37,090 Speaker 2: those areas or we're not as strong as we think 516 00:29:37,130 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: we are. What do you do with people who come 517 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,460 Speaker 2: to you? Because there's kind of like types of people, right? 518 00:29:45,620 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: So there's like the jujitsu people. They love jujitsu. They're 519 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,620 Speaker 2: fine with guns, but they love jujitsu, right? Or there's 520 00:29:51,660 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: the gun people. They love guns. They'll roll around twice 521 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,490 Speaker 2: a year because they have to for annual training. But 522 00:29:57,550 --> 00:30:01,230 Speaker 2: other than that, they're not interested in that. or they've 523 00:30:01,250 --> 00:30:05,870 Speaker 2: got the hand-to-hand thing, they've got the gun thing, but 524 00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:11,170 Speaker 2: mentally they're not disciplined. Spiritually, they're a disaster. How do 525 00:30:11,570 --> 00:30:16,430 Speaker 2: you talk through that with people who want to do 526 00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:18,130 Speaker 2: what they want to do, but don't want to do 527 00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:22,170 Speaker 2: the hard other things that are necessary to be full 528 00:30:22,210 --> 00:30:24,110 Speaker 2: spectrum in that sense? How do you walk through that 529 00:30:24,130 --> 00:30:24,570 Speaker 2: with someone? 530 00:30:25,090 --> 00:30:25,230 Speaker 1: Hmm. 531 00:30:26,620 --> 00:30:28,990 Speaker 3: Each personality type, you kind of have to approach it 532 00:30:29,030 --> 00:30:31,950 Speaker 3: a different way. You know what I mean? Because certain 533 00:30:32,030 --> 00:30:37,170 Speaker 3: things motivate certain types of personalities. Right. So some guys 534 00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:40,420 Speaker 3: are externally motivated and some guys are internally motivated. And 535 00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: if you've ever been a personal trainer, like at the gym, 536 00:30:42,740 --> 00:30:46,140 Speaker 3: which I've been a personal trainer before, that's actually what 537 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: I did when I got out of the SEAL teams 538 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:52,230 Speaker 3: when I was in that transition time. And that basically 539 00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:57,220 Speaker 3: parlayed me into uh, being the shooting instructor, which I 540 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,050 Speaker 3: think really helped doing personal training first because it, it 541 00:31:01,090 --> 00:31:05,890 Speaker 3: got me better at, you know, breaking down the, uh, 542 00:31:05,930 --> 00:31:11,210 Speaker 3: the exercises and explain understanding body mechanics better, like in, um, 543 00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:13,940 Speaker 3: and breaking it down. But if you'd have people who'd 544 00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:19,420 Speaker 3: come into the gym and you have the one client 545 00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:22,940 Speaker 3: who is super motivated, they want to come at 6am 546 00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: before they go to work. And they're going to meet 547 00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:29,239 Speaker 3: with you once a week and you say, hey, the 548 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,590 Speaker 3: next four days or what I want you to do 549 00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:35,250 Speaker 3: between now and next Monday when I see you, I 550 00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:38,170 Speaker 3: want you to do this, this and this. And they 551 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:41,990 Speaker 3: totally do it. Right. They're motivated. They don't need you 552 00:31:42,130 --> 00:31:47,090 Speaker 3: there to, you know, give them that external motivation. They're 553 00:31:47,150 --> 00:31:50,500 Speaker 3: self-motivated and they'll just go do it. Right. Then you 554 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,300 Speaker 3: have the people who are externally motivated where they need 555 00:31:54,340 --> 00:31:56,540 Speaker 3: you to be their cheerleader. They need you to pump 556 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,550 Speaker 3: them up and hype them up. And they might work 557 00:31:59,620 --> 00:32:02,550 Speaker 3: really hard when they're there with you. But as soon 558 00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:05,650 Speaker 3: as they leave, they go right back into all their 559 00:32:05,730 --> 00:32:08,890 Speaker 3: old habits and all their old vices. And then they 560 00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:10,990 Speaker 3: come back in the next Monday and they're like, oh, 561 00:32:11,010 --> 00:32:12,690 Speaker 3: my God, I need you to kick my ass today. 562 00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:15,130 Speaker 3: You know, I had this one lady yesterday. You know, 563 00:32:15,270 --> 00:32:17,190 Speaker 3: she would come in. She'd be like, Oh my gosh, 564 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,500 Speaker 3: you totally have to kick my ass today. Last night 565 00:32:21,220 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: while watching a movie, I had like half a tub 566 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,820 Speaker 3: of ice cream. And I'm like, you realize every time 567 00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:32,940 Speaker 3: you do this, like you're getting, you're frustrated because you're 568 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,020 Speaker 3: not losing any weight. 569 00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:34,820 Speaker 2: Right. Right. 570 00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: But, and she was like, she worked so hard. Like, 571 00:32:44,270 --> 00:32:48,570 Speaker 3: Nothing about her work ethic when she was there with me. 572 00:32:49,390 --> 00:32:52,210 Speaker 3: But as soon as she left, she would go back 573 00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:54,330 Speaker 3: into all that old stuff. So she's treading water. You 574 00:32:55,150 --> 00:32:57,690 Speaker 3: know what I mean? So it's one of those things 575 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:07,140 Speaker 3: where some trainers get really frustrated with that. And rightfully so, 576 00:33:07,220 --> 00:33:09,460 Speaker 3: because they're like, hey, you're making me as a trainer 577 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:11,980 Speaker 3: look bad because people see you as my client and 578 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,530 Speaker 3: you're not getting the results that you should. And it 579 00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:19,780 Speaker 3: looks bad upon me. And that's one way of looking 580 00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:21,500 Speaker 3: at it. The other way of looking at it is like, hey, 581 00:33:21,940 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: my job is to be here with you and try 582 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: to do what I can do to keep you on track. 583 00:33:27,090 --> 00:33:28,390 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you have to 584 00:33:28,430 --> 00:33:30,370 Speaker 3: take that responsibility to do it. So don't get mad 585 00:33:30,390 --> 00:33:32,350 Speaker 3: at me when you're not getting the results because you're 586 00:33:32,390 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: not playing to the program. But really, it's just... kind 587 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,980 Speaker 3: of like the same thing with our walk with Christ 588 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: and the Holy Spirit. Like the Holy Spirit's reaching out 589 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: to us and reaching out to us. And sometimes we 590 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,700 Speaker 3: just don't listen and we don't listen and we don't 591 00:33:49,740 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 3: listen until we're like in a position where we're ready 592 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,850 Speaker 3: to listen. So one of the things that I'll do 593 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,970 Speaker 3: with those types of clients or people that are in 594 00:33:59,010 --> 00:34:03,550 Speaker 3: those situations is just let them do self-reflection and let 595 00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:08,610 Speaker 3: them ask, like let them answer their own questions of like, Hey, 596 00:34:09,950 --> 00:34:13,990 Speaker 3: do you think that eating that ice cream is really 597 00:34:14,050 --> 00:34:15,210 Speaker 3: helping your situation? 598 00:34:15,989 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: No. 599 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 3: And ask them questions that basically reveal and make them 600 00:34:23,380 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 3: say what it is that they're doing. You know what 601 00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 3: I mean? And I'm not in their home, so I 602 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,670 Speaker 3: can't force them to do anything. I can cut them off. 603 00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:34,469 Speaker 3: And just be like dude, I don't want you as 604 00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:37,489 Speaker 3: a client anymore because you're making me look bad But 605 00:34:37,530 --> 00:34:40,150 Speaker 3: by cutting them off. I don't know if i'm necessarily 606 00:34:40,170 --> 00:34:43,250 Speaker 3: helping them either Until the until they get to that 607 00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:46,930 Speaker 3: point where they need to make a change You know 608 00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:50,390 Speaker 3: what I mean? And they finally own it and take 609 00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 3: responsibility And say that they are ready You know and 610 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 3: now you can truly work with them, you know, um 611 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 3: it's one of those things. The only thing you can 612 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 3: keep doing is just keep, you know, working with them, 613 00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:09,270 Speaker 3: reminding them, placing the vision in front of them, allowing 614 00:35:09,310 --> 00:35:12,290 Speaker 3: them to know what things could look like if they 615 00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:13,830 Speaker 3: did X, Y, and Z. But at the end of 616 00:35:13,850 --> 00:35:16,009 Speaker 3: the day, it's like they got to walk the walk. 617 00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:16,509 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 618 00:35:17,110 --> 00:35:17,790 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. 619 00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:19,670 Speaker 3: Yeah. 620 00:35:19,730 --> 00:35:20,950 Speaker 2: And I think it's a real challenge for a lot 621 00:35:20,969 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: of people. I think, you know, we, we see examples 622 00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: all the time of, you know, like law enforcement professionals 623 00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:29,580 Speaker 2: that are very good at one aspect of their job, but, 624 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 2: if what you're really good at is using a gun 625 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,339 Speaker 2: and you don't know how to do anything else, then 626 00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: people get shot, right? Because you don't have any other tools. 627 00:35:36,340 --> 00:35:39,009 Speaker 2: That's the only thing you have. And if you have 628 00:35:39,070 --> 00:35:41,990 Speaker 2: something else and you're not good in a well-rounded sense, 629 00:35:42,090 --> 00:35:45,090 Speaker 2: then you're very limited in terms of your options and 630 00:35:45,110 --> 00:35:47,590 Speaker 2: your ability to do your job. So yeah, super important. 631 00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:52,100 Speaker 2: And I think for people who aren't in professional gunfighter roles, 632 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 2: they're not in law enforcement, they're not in the military, 633 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: still understanding that you need to be well, you need 634 00:35:58,540 --> 00:36:01,310 Speaker 2: to be whole, in all of those facets of your 635 00:36:01,350 --> 00:36:03,989 Speaker 2: life if you're really going to be, I would say, 636 00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:06,140 Speaker 2: what God wants you to be, right? Really be able 637 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: to function the way that God's called you to function. 638 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,739 Speaker 2: Let's talk about your book, Full Spectrum Warrior Lifestyle. What 639 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: prompted you to write that? And what is, you know, 640 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,969 Speaker 2: kind of the, when you get to the other side 641 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:20,489 Speaker 2: of that, what are you hoping that people will have 642 00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:22,090 Speaker 2: gained from it or learned from it? 643 00:36:23,090 --> 00:36:28,450 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's, I wrote it because my students have 644 00:36:28,650 --> 00:36:31,850 Speaker 3: asked me to put it on paper. Um, and this 645 00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:37,430 Speaker 3: actually happened probably around like 2012 ish, I would say. Um, 646 00:36:40,570 --> 00:36:43,390 Speaker 3: and I was working with a fire department. I was 647 00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:47,029 Speaker 3: working with their special ops team. So these are guys 648 00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:53,070 Speaker 3: who might do like high, high rescue, you know, on like, uh, 649 00:36:54,219 --> 00:36:56,739 Speaker 3: high rise apartment buildings, you know, or in cities and 650 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,010 Speaker 3: stuff like that. Or if there's a car that goes 651 00:37:00,050 --> 00:37:02,050 Speaker 3: into the water and they have like a dive team 652 00:37:02,110 --> 00:37:04,710 Speaker 3: or if there's a hazmat spill. And so that's like 653 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:09,569 Speaker 3: special ops for, for firefighters. Right. And I'm working with 654 00:37:09,590 --> 00:37:12,609 Speaker 3: this fire department, working with them with the, with the 655 00:37:12,690 --> 00:37:18,060 Speaker 3: full spectrum warrior philosophy, this mentality. And, and afterwards the 656 00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:23,069 Speaker 3: guys were like, Hey dude, how do we know, if 657 00:37:23,150 --> 00:37:25,630 Speaker 3: we're staying on track, cause this was just a talk. 658 00:37:25,690 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 3: It wasn't like written out. It was like a more 659 00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 3: of like a speech or like a, like a lecture. And, 660 00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 3: and then they were just asking like, how do we 661 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 3: track our progress? How do we know if we're on 662 00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 3: the right path? How do we keep tabs and, and 663 00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:45,430 Speaker 3: like keep ourselves like, you know, on point. And they 664 00:37:45,469 --> 00:37:46,570 Speaker 3: had asked me if I was going to put it, 665 00:37:46,610 --> 00:37:48,750 Speaker 3: if I could put it into a book format and 666 00:37:48,770 --> 00:37:50,950 Speaker 3: I was considering it. And then all, all the Navy 667 00:37:50,989 --> 00:37:54,530 Speaker 3: SEAL books kept coming out. And I'd go to places 668 00:37:54,590 --> 00:37:57,330 Speaker 3: and I'd meet people. And everyone's like, oh, yeah, this 669 00:37:57,350 --> 00:37:59,250 Speaker 3: is my buddy Rich Graham. He's a veteran Navy SEAL. 670 00:37:59,290 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 3: And the first thing everyone would always say to me 671 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,140 Speaker 3: is like, oh, cool, you're a SEAL? How many books 672 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: did you write? 673 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,460 Speaker 2: SEALs love their books, man. They love them. 674 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,990 Speaker 3: So I didn't want to fall into that cliche. And 675 00:38:13,530 --> 00:38:18,570 Speaker 3: it actually deterred me for a long time. And then finally– 676 00:38:20,330 --> 00:38:22,950 Speaker 3: you know, like I, I basically like prayed on it and, 677 00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:26,220 Speaker 3: you know, for years people have been asking me to, to, 678 00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:30,899 Speaker 3: to put this in a format that they could revisit and, 679 00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 3: you know, um, and apply in their life, you know, 680 00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,610 Speaker 3: and not just have to remember all the talks and 681 00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:41,430 Speaker 3: revisit every podcast that I've done, you know, and all 682 00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:44,230 Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. So four years ago I started 683 00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:47,549 Speaker 3: putting it on paper and, um, and it was just 684 00:38:47,590 --> 00:38:50,610 Speaker 3: a process, you know, I'm in the, in the timeframe 685 00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:54,700 Speaker 3: I've had two, two girls and, uh, you know, I'm 686 00:38:54,739 --> 00:38:56,940 Speaker 3: running a whole ranch and a training facility and we 687 00:38:56,980 --> 00:39:01,739 Speaker 3: run a charity and, um, there's been legal stuff. It's 688 00:39:01,780 --> 00:39:03,020 Speaker 3: just life. You know what I mean? 689 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 690 00:39:03,590 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 3: So full-time life going on and in the spare time 691 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:12,939 Speaker 3: trying to wake up super early and start putting this 692 00:39:13,219 --> 00:39:18,020 Speaker 3: onto paper. And it's just been a process. And one 693 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,150 Speaker 3: of the things through that process was, like, normally when 694 00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 3: I go to speak at, um you know for for 695 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 3: big companies or doing you know active shooter response training 696 00:39:31,020 --> 00:39:34,500 Speaker 3: for big corporations and stuff like that and then going 697 00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:36,950 Speaker 3: into some of the full spectrum warrior philosophy with them 698 00:39:36,969 --> 00:39:41,330 Speaker 3: or police departments and government jobs when it came to 699 00:39:41,350 --> 00:39:45,890 Speaker 3: the the pillar of faith i basically had to to 700 00:39:45,969 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 3: just hint at it and i couldn't discuss it yeah 701 00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:54,270 Speaker 3: due to the nature of where we're speaking. Sure. So 702 00:39:54,370 --> 00:39:58,130 Speaker 3: when I was originally writing the book, I was taking 703 00:39:58,190 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 3: it from like, Oh, just do it from that same, 704 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,819 Speaker 3: from that same perspective. And I'll just hint towards the 705 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:09,939 Speaker 3: faith part and hint towards spiritual warfare, but not really 706 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,620 Speaker 3: get into it. So more people can read it and 707 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 3: it doesn't become like blacklisted from like corporate America. And then, um, 708 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 3: And then I prayed on it and I was like, no, 709 00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 3: you know what? This is my opportunity to say the 710 00:40:23,860 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 3: stuff that I'm not allowed to say when I'm doing 711 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,410 Speaker 3: those corporate talks. And it's in a book. It's in a, 712 00:40:28,739 --> 00:40:34,850 Speaker 3: you know, a personal like it's not me speaking from stage. 713 00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:37,630 Speaker 3: So I was like, you know, I'm going to invite 714 00:40:37,650 --> 00:40:39,469 Speaker 3: God into the conversation and I'm going to bring God 715 00:40:39,489 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 3: into the talk. And then what happened with that was 716 00:40:41,780 --> 00:40:49,830 Speaker 3: actually really cool was it then challenged me. to basically 717 00:40:49,969 --> 00:40:54,210 Speaker 3: go back and revisit every single thing that I was 718 00:40:54,350 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 3: teaching across the full spectrum warrior philosophy, because since I 719 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: officially brought God into the conversation, you can't have God 720 00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 3: for one part of the conversation. So now when I 721 00:41:06,580 --> 00:41:09,860 Speaker 3: used to talk about faith, I can't have God in 722 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 3: the faith talk and then talk about health or talk 723 00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 3: about fitness and. 724 00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:22,049 Speaker 4: And do that or talk about finances and do it 725 00:41:22,090 --> 00:41:28,100 Speaker 4: in a way that doesn't have a way that's being 726 00:41:28,140 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 4: condoned by what Scripture says. Because I can't have God 727 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,460 Speaker 4: in one part of my life and then be teaching 728 00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:37,500 Speaker 4: things that are counter to what God's principles are in 729 00:41:37,540 --> 00:41:38,300 Speaker 4: my other area. 730 00:41:38,380 --> 00:41:40,940 Speaker 3: Now I'm just being a hypocrite. You know what I mean? 731 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 3: So it really challenged me to go back and, and 732 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 3: really do a deep dive into everything that I'm teaching. 733 00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 3: And some things I had to update and some things. 734 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,260 Speaker 5: I had to basically have a gut check on and 735 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 5: other things I just had to basically, you know, it 736 00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:58,980 Speaker 5: extended that process of writing the book because it really 737 00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 5: put me into, and if. 738 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,910 Speaker 3: The book flops, It's like, all right, well, at least 739 00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 3: I have my own personal Bible study for four years 740 00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 3: to make sure that if I'm going to have the 741 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,540 Speaker 3: responsibility of teaching somebody and sharing knowledge with other people 742 00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:20,950 Speaker 3: and guiding how their life is being framed and how 743 00:42:20,989 --> 00:42:24,550 Speaker 3: they're building on their own foundation and I'm affecting their life, 744 00:42:24,590 --> 00:42:29,310 Speaker 3: I'm affecting their families, their job, and the future generations 745 00:42:29,330 --> 00:42:32,940 Speaker 3: within their home, Based on the stuff that I'm pouring 746 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,339 Speaker 3: into them, it needs to line up scripturally or I'm 747 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,940 Speaker 3: damning this family. And I took that as a huge responsibility. 748 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,180 Speaker 3: And that really like weighed in on the process of 749 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,410 Speaker 3: why it took me so long to write it. In 750 00:42:49,469 --> 00:42:51,710 Speaker 3: addition to just finding the time, you know what I mean? 751 00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:55,060 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. It's funny, and I get exactly where 752 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 2: you're coming from. We speak often, active duty military bases, 753 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 2: police departments, fire departments, and we speak on resiliency. But 754 00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: you really do have to be careful. There's a line 755 00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:08,950 Speaker 2: they have. In fact, many of them will tell you, 756 00:43:09,050 --> 00:43:13,129 Speaker 2: please don't go beyond this, right? What I found with 757 00:43:13,150 --> 00:43:15,850 Speaker 2: the books that we take, and we write the books, 758 00:43:15,870 --> 00:43:19,370 Speaker 2: we put the gospel at the end of them, very clearly, 759 00:43:19,469 --> 00:43:23,180 Speaker 2: like walking through it. It gives us something to leave behind, 760 00:43:23,219 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 2: which is awesome. But then I've been surprised over the 761 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: years at the reception to those books. It's like, oh, okay. Yeah, see, 762 00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:33,380 Speaker 2: this makes sense. The faith part you're talking about, it 763 00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 2: makes sense. People tend to respond much better to that 764 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,420 Speaker 2: than we think they're going to. And yeah, I talk 765 00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 2: about faith as like I can't just include it. And 766 00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:48,020 Speaker 2: that's why I don't like to think of faith as 767 00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: a pillar. You know, we talk about the pillars of 768 00:43:50,060 --> 00:43:52,980 Speaker 2: resiliency and faith is one of the pillars. I tend 769 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,620 Speaker 2: to think of faith more as the foundation that the 770 00:43:54,660 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 2: pillars stand on because faith has to touch everything else 771 00:43:58,420 --> 00:44:01,390 Speaker 2: that we do. You mentioned health, some of those other areas. 772 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,810 Speaker 2: Why would I make good decisions about my body if 773 00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:06,730 Speaker 2: it wasn't for an underlining faith foundation? Like that has 774 00:44:06,750 --> 00:44:09,029 Speaker 2: to inform even how I think about my body. It 775 00:44:09,070 --> 00:44:11,670 Speaker 2: has to inform how I think about my mind, my relationships, 776 00:44:11,710 --> 00:44:14,790 Speaker 2: my finances. And so faith is the ground on which 777 00:44:14,830 --> 00:44:18,489 Speaker 2: everything else stands. So, yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. 778 00:44:18,510 --> 00:44:20,730 Speaker 3: So far, when we get to the part of the 779 00:44:20,770 --> 00:44:25,170 Speaker 3: full spectrum warrior philosophy, like when it comes to faith, 780 00:44:26,050 --> 00:44:30,129 Speaker 3: we're talking like there's, there's two, there's two or three 781 00:44:30,170 --> 00:44:36,420 Speaker 3: chapters that basically go into more of like scriptural based stuff. 782 00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:40,380 Speaker 3: And part of that is going, you know, one is 783 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 3: faith and it's, and from the point of faith where 784 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,339 Speaker 3: it's like, You don't even sit on a chair unless 785 00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 3: you believe that it's going to hold your weight. You 786 00:44:47,780 --> 00:44:50,029 Speaker 3: won't even do something as simple as sit down on 787 00:44:50,930 --> 00:44:52,850 Speaker 3: an object if you don't believe it's going to hold you. 788 00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:56,630 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? So for us to be 789 00:44:56,650 --> 00:44:59,190 Speaker 3: able to move, for us to be able to trust 790 00:44:59,290 --> 00:45:02,350 Speaker 3: and to be able to do things that we don't 791 00:45:02,489 --> 00:45:05,010 Speaker 3: know what the results are going to be. It takes 792 00:45:05,450 --> 00:45:08,110 Speaker 3: a form of faith and then taking that from a 793 00:45:08,530 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 3: psychological standpoint and then transitioning a parallel of, well, how 794 00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 3: is this also happening spiritually? The other thing is we 795 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,140 Speaker 3: talk about, okay, well, we have values like, you know, 796 00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:21,930 Speaker 3: America is a country based on laws. Well, where do 797 00:45:21,950 --> 00:45:25,210 Speaker 3: we draw our value system from? You know what I mean? 798 00:45:25,250 --> 00:45:28,150 Speaker 3: Like your choices that you make on a daily basis 799 00:45:28,210 --> 00:45:30,330 Speaker 3: of what is right or wrong. What are we even 800 00:45:30,370 --> 00:45:32,810 Speaker 3: basing that on? Are we basing that on world principles 801 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:35,270 Speaker 3: or are we basing that on godly principles? And there's 802 00:45:35,290 --> 00:45:39,339 Speaker 3: a lot of things that culturally are acceptable, but spiritually 803 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 3: they're unacceptable. So we have to be careful of like, hey, well, 804 00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:46,739 Speaker 3: this is what the world is telling us, but this 805 00:45:46,820 --> 00:45:50,030 Speaker 3: is what. and this is the results of what we 806 00:45:50,070 --> 00:45:52,290 Speaker 3: get when we walk with the world. And this is 807 00:45:52,510 --> 00:45:54,330 Speaker 3: the results we get when we walk with the spirit, 808 00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:58,330 Speaker 3: you know, and, and then talking about like integrity of 809 00:45:58,390 --> 00:46:01,330 Speaker 3: like doing the right thing when no one's looking, we 810 00:46:01,370 --> 00:46:03,930 Speaker 3: can just do that from a psychology standpoint, or you 811 00:46:03,950 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 3: can do that on a parallel from a, from a 812 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 3: spiritual standpoint. So the, it does, it ties into everything. 813 00:46:11,980 --> 00:46:13,780 Speaker 3: And even when we go into, so there's a couple 814 00:46:13,820 --> 00:46:20,460 Speaker 3: of chapters that are like, that are, very focused on our, 815 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,090 Speaker 3: you know, faith is a broad, broad statement, but based 816 00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:28,810 Speaker 3: on like our spiritual relationship, you know what I mean? 817 00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 3: And accountability there. But then on other things, like you're 818 00:46:32,020 --> 00:46:35,009 Speaker 3: talking about, like health, you know, it says like, that 819 00:46:35,110 --> 00:46:39,250 Speaker 3: the body is the temple for the Holy Spirit. And 820 00:46:39,310 --> 00:46:41,950 Speaker 3: it also talks about that the devil has come to 821 00:46:42,010 --> 00:46:44,730 Speaker 3: seek and destroy the image bearer of God, which we 822 00:46:44,810 --> 00:46:47,529 Speaker 3: are built in the image of God. So from a 823 00:46:47,610 --> 00:46:53,509 Speaker 3: health standpoint, from our body, from all of that, we 824 00:46:53,550 --> 00:46:57,170 Speaker 3: can have a discussion about diet, but even something as 825 00:46:57,250 --> 00:47:03,950 Speaker 3: simple as discussing diet, it's also going, well, why are... 826 00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 3: the why are we confused about our gender why are 827 00:47:08,460 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 3: we getting plastic surgeries why are we eating things that 828 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 3: are so unhealthy why are we drawn to this and 829 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,980 Speaker 3: it's you know you have of the world well yeah 830 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 3: from business standpoint it's good business this and that on 831 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,620 Speaker 3: a spiritual welfare standpoint the enemy is trying to destroy 832 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 3: the image bearer of god and that's that's us you 833 00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:29,420 Speaker 3: know what i mean And that's the children and all this. 834 00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 3: So we kind of like touch each one of these 835 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,340 Speaker 3: topics in a parallel of, you know, the worldly and 836 00:47:38,380 --> 00:47:42,970 Speaker 3: psychological and then also from a spiritual standpoint. And then 837 00:47:42,989 --> 00:47:46,549 Speaker 3: the reader can use discernment to figure out where they 838 00:47:46,690 --> 00:47:51,470 Speaker 3: are in their own, you know, walk as far as like, 839 00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:54,170 Speaker 3: you know, how deep they want to dig into the topic. 840 00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:54,630 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 841 00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:58,899 Speaker 2: That's good. That's good. Rich, where can people get that 842 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,819 Speaker 2: book and where can people follow you and learn more 843 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,780 Speaker 2: about Full Spectrum? 844 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the book is available right now on pre-sale. It 845 00:48:07,739 --> 00:48:14,779 Speaker 3: launches December 1st and that's at fswlifestyle.com. So like fullspectrumwarriorlifestyle.com. 846 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:21,549 Speaker 3: And then our training website is fullspectrumwarriors.com. And you can 847 00:48:21,730 --> 00:48:24,710 Speaker 3: check me on Instagram at fullspectrumwarriorusa.com. 848 00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:28,860 Speaker 2: And I think all of your, all of those links 849 00:48:28,969 --> 00:48:32,299 Speaker 2: are linked on your personal Instagram too, I think, right? 850 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 2: You have a link there that people can find you there. 851 00:48:34,820 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 2: So awesome. Rich, thanks, man. I really appreciate it. Love 852 00:48:39,219 --> 00:48:42,060 Speaker 2: the conversation. Love what you guys are doing, what you're doing. 853 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 2: And man, it really is, you know, full spectrum, but 854 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,939 Speaker 2: you integrate faith into what you're doing and that makes 855 00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:51,940 Speaker 2: it make sense. Yeah. 856 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:52,580 Speaker 3: Yeah. 857 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,420 Speaker 2: I really appreciate that. Thanks for joining the conversation and 858 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: for sharing with us. 859 00:48:57,820 --> 00:49:02,629 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate the opportunity. And I'm excited to, just 860 00:49:02,650 --> 00:49:04,650 Speaker 3: like what you guys are doing with your program, just 861 00:49:04,690 --> 00:49:07,340 Speaker 3: building strong men of faith and trying to improve people's 862 00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 3: lives one at a time. 863 00:49:08,140 --> 00:49:09,779 Speaker 2: Awesome. Thanks, Rich. 864 00:49:10,340 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. Appreciate it.