WEBVTT - Afraid to Debate? - Sunday Fireside Chat 

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<v Speaker 3>Hi everybody, Dennis Praguer fireside Chat. For whatever reason, Snoopy

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<v Speaker 3>has showed up. Maybe all the attention Auto gets my

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<v Speaker 3>beloved Auto finally registered on Snoopy. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 3>he also is getting a rub, whereas Otto does not

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<v Speaker 3>need a rub to be present. Anyway, Now you've had

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to meet Snoop, good to be with you.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a chance every week. This is what number

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and ninety. By the way, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>that proves that this is number one ninety. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to share with you something. It's the beauty of the

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<v Speaker 3>fireside chat is spontaneity. Well, one of the beauties. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the one hundred and ninetieth edition of the fireside Chat.

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<v Speaker 3>It proves something that every young person should be taught

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<v Speaker 3>very early. The power of habit, the power of repetition,

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<v Speaker 3>of doing something regularly. I guess that's just another way

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<v Speaker 3>of saying habit. You get so much accomplished, not by

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<v Speaker 3>doing a ton at one time, but by doing something regularly.

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<v Speaker 3>Good habits are really sort of the essence of a

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<v Speaker 3>good life. One hundred and ninety fireside chat is a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of fireside chats. But obviously I had one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ninety weeks to do it, but I did it

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<v Speaker 3>every week. It was a habit and it remains one anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>Just a thought for you. Great to be with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I always open, I think, always always open with a

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<v Speaker 3>topic and then I take your questions. A few weeks

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<v Speaker 3>ago I did a fireside chat in which I analyzed

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<v Speaker 3>a video of John Oliver, why does he consider a

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<v Speaker 3>late night comic? Is that? Is that correct? With his

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<v Speaker 3>anti Israel diatribe on his show, it was a particularly

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<v Speaker 3>intellectually shallow and morally shallow appearance, in my opinion, and

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<v Speaker 3>I reacted to point by point with my own points

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<v Speaker 3>and said repeatedly, I would love to debate John Oliver

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<v Speaker 3>about the Middle East. After all, if you use your

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<v Speaker 3>large audience to say certain things you should morally, you

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<v Speaker 3>are bound to defend it. I am bound to defend

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<v Speaker 3>anything I say. And if someone challenges me to a

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<v Speaker 3>debate who has an equivalent audience of mine. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>mean some guys who are rite on the internet, Oh

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<v Speaker 3>Breaker won't debate me, and they have four hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen followers. But somebody who has their own show or

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<v Speaker 3>their own column, whatever, I would love to debate them

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<v Speaker 3>on anything that I have said. So I said, why

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't he debate me? And I'm very courteous to people

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<v Speaker 3>that I debate. As my radio show thirty five years

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<v Speaker 3>bears testimony to I said, I would go anywhere. I

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<v Speaker 3>would pay the expense. He could choose his own moderator,

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<v Speaker 3>his own city, anything, I'll go to his city, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course I got no responses. I predicted he won't

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<v Speaker 3>debate me. The reason that I raised the issue is

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<v Speaker 3>this is really important avenue to understanding the left. They

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<v Speaker 3>almost never debate, and they almost never debate because they

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<v Speaker 3>cannot live with intellectual opposition. Left wing thinking is feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>Feelings cannot go up against facts and logic. It's all emotion.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all negative, often hatefilled emotion. But that's all it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all it's ever been. The left doesn't debate. The

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<v Speaker 3>Left smears if you differ with them, you're a racist.

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<v Speaker 3>You are what I called twenty years ago six HERB,

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<v Speaker 3>six hirb, sexist, intolerance, in a phobicchomophobic, islamophobic, races, bigoted.

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<v Speaker 3>The list is much longer today, but that was the

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<v Speaker 3>list twenty years ago. You are all these things, So

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<v Speaker 3>we don't debate you. We just label you. That has

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<v Speaker 3>been done ever since Lenin in the Russian Revolution. That

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<v Speaker 3>is all they have done. They don't debate, and you,

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<v Speaker 3>especially those of you who are younger, just need to

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<v Speaker 3>know this. The reason they don't want us at your

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<v Speaker 3>campuses is that they are afraid that if students hear

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<v Speaker 3>us for an hour and a half they will change

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<v Speaker 3>their minds, and they're right. That is a very legitimate

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<v Speaker 3>fear because left wing ideas that America is founded on racism,

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<v Speaker 3>that America is founded and fought the the American Revolution

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<v Speaker 3>to perpetuate slavery, that America is systemically racist, that blacks

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<v Speaker 3>and women and people of color are all persecuted in

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<v Speaker 3>the United States. This is all false. Of course there's

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<v Speaker 3>racism in the United States. It's like saying that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's something bad in every human being. Of course

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<v Speaker 3>there is. So what does does that mean that America

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<v Speaker 3>is racist? There's anti semitism in the United States, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not an anti Symitic country. I say, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a Jew who's written a book on anti Semitism. They

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<v Speaker 3>won't debate us because they can't debate us, and deep

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<v Speaker 3>down they know it. So what they do is they

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<v Speaker 3>talk people into believing, why would we would debate racists? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you one reason to prove that we're racist.

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<v Speaker 3>Would that be a great opportunity. See John Oliver doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>know anything about the Middle East nothing. I'm totally convinced

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<v Speaker 3>of it, and so he knows he would never debate

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<v Speaker 3>me on the Middle East. And by the way, he's

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<v Speaker 3>right when I said he won't debate me. I was

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<v Speaker 3>as sure of that as I was that the sun

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<v Speaker 3>would rise in the east the next day. But you

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<v Speaker 3>need to know this. When they have cancel culture, it's

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<v Speaker 3>because they're so afraid that people will become aware of

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<v Speaker 3>what we have to say. Whether it's about about ivermectin,

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<v Speaker 3>or whether it is about system racism or police brutality,

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<v Speaker 3>or every one of their subjects. They know deep down

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't have an intellectual or moral like to

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<v Speaker 3>stand on and then but that they do is they

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<v Speaker 3>convince themselves not that they're afraid to debate us, but

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<v Speaker 3>that there's no reason to. But of course there's reason too.

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<v Speaker 3>We're a certain that we're right as they are that

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<v Speaker 3>they're right. But we're totally open to debating. Why is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Why are we open to debating the left but the

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<v Speaker 3>left is not open to debating us because we know

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<v Speaker 3>that we'll win. Not win in the sense of a

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<v Speaker 3>TKO or a knockout or a split decision in a

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<v Speaker 3>boxing match, but in the sense that with people here

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<v Speaker 3>both sides, our side will make more sense and have

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<v Speaker 3>more facts Charles Mblou writes hate filled columns about America.

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<v Speaker 3>Every dime. He writes a column in The New York Times.

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<v Speaker 3>He's basically wit in run one colum five hundred times,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's about how evil America is, how whites are

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<v Speaker 3>just spectacularly racist. Would he debate Larry Elder? I would

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<v Speaker 3>pay ten thousand dollars to Charles Blow to debate Larry Elder,

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<v Speaker 3>a black conservative. He would never debate Larry Elder. It

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<v Speaker 3>would end his career. He would look like the fool

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<v Speaker 3>that he is, namely one left wing New York Times columnist,

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<v Speaker 3>would debate anybody? Would Thomas Freeman debate me? I would

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<v Speaker 3>pay him ten thousand dollars to debate. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>way it is. They just smear and cancel. Now you

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<v Speaker 3>know why that should tell you something. They are afraid

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<v Speaker 3>of us intellectually, they have every right to be ok.

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<v Speaker 3>Hel oh Caduke, Let's go to question number one. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the video question.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, my name is Roud Nadir, I'm eighteen years old

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm from Gilbert, Arizona. Dennis, I was just curious

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<v Speaker 4>to know what your thoughts are on third wave feminism,

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<v Speaker 4>and obviously we all believe that men and women are

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<v Speaker 4>equal when it comes to opportunity, but when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to biology and work ethic. I was just curious to

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<v Speaker 4>know what your thoughts are on that area.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, thank you, Okay, so briefly I could do

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<v Speaker 3>we should do maybe one on feminism. But first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how third wave feminism differs from second

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<v Speaker 3>wave or first wave. I'm not being cute. I really

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what is the intellectual difference, what is the

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<v Speaker 3>ideological difference. But anyway, whatever it is, maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a chronological statement rather than a an ideological statement. So

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<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of problems with feminism. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a problem with the idea that men and women

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<v Speaker 3>are equal before God and before the law. That's such

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<v Speaker 3>a given to me that I don't even think that

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<v Speaker 3>time needs to be spent on it. The capacities of

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<v Speaker 3>both both sexes are essentially the same, you know when

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<v Speaker 3>I learned this. Interestingly, I didn't have a sister, so

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't grow up with girls in my life. But

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<v Speaker 3>I've always been a music lover, and some of you

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<v Speaker 3>know I conduct orchestras periodically. I'm very involved in music

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll never forget this was transformative. I used to

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<v Speaker 3>listen to the classical music station where I grew up

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<v Speaker 3>in New York City, and they once did something on

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<v Speaker 3>one of their programs where they had music critics listen

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<v Speaker 3>to recordings and then react to them. So they decided

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<v Speaker 3>to do an experiment. They had the same exact piano piece,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's Beethoven, whatever, Bach, and they had

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<v Speaker 3>let's say, five versions, and they would ask the panel,

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<v Speaker 3>and there these were professional music listener critics tell us

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<v Speaker 3>if this is a male or female pianist, and there

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<v Speaker 3>was absolutely zero I couldn't tell. They couldn't tell. And

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<v Speaker 3>these people listened for a living, and they could hear

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<v Speaker 3>the every nuance in the interpretation of a piano piece.

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<v Speaker 3>And I realized that was a very I was in

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<v Speaker 3>high school and I realized, Yeah, the capacities of the

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<v Speaker 3>two sexes are the same, not the capacity for every

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<v Speaker 3>single thing. Obviously, there are ways in which women and

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<v Speaker 3>men differ, and thank god they do. I'll give you,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you. Look, the obvious is physical, okay, But

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<v Speaker 3>putting physical aside, here's an interesting difference, I believe, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think most couples with a child would acknowledge this.

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<v Speaker 3>The woman is much more likely to awaken if the

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<v Speaker 3>baby whimpers. She marvels at the fact that he could

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<v Speaker 3>sleep through it, and he marvels at the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>it woke her up. Am I right, Rodrigo, Yeah, Rodrigo

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<v Speaker 3>is a is newly fathered and is probably living exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. I suspect when your baby you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>out to the world and your wife is out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Cape Kennedy, the woman right exactly. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 3>are differences, but capabilities that that is largely speaking, pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much a non issue. Okay, so everyone with a brain

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<v Speaker 3>has accepted not just a brain. Everyone who is a

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<v Speaker 3>clear thinker wants to be a clear thinker. There are

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<v Speaker 3>people with brains that don't think clearly. Knows that the

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<v Speaker 3>sexes are equal, but they're not the same, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>thank god, they're not the same. It is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the delights of life that we differ in more than

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<v Speaker 3>just biology of the body. But feminism did teach that

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<v Speaker 3>men and women were the same, and that has played

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<v Speaker 3>havoc with both sexes because, on the one hand, they

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<v Speaker 3>taught that, so for example, they told young women for

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<v Speaker 3>the last fifty years that they should pursue career just

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<v Speaker 3>like men do, and that will bring them happiness. But

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<v Speaker 3>it has not brought a lot of women happiness. When

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<v Speaker 3>at fifty they call my radio show and they they

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<v Speaker 3>have great careers, but no husband and no children, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't call up to tell me how happy they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Otto is leaving the room. I hear by announce, Rodrigo,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to allow the star of the show to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's hard to say why he's leaving,

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<v Speaker 3>but there were there. He's there. We had pre show

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<v Speaker 3>excitement for him. That that is correct. The prager, you

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<v Speaker 3>giant version of Otto was here and it spooked him.

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<v Speaker 3>So telling young women career will bring you happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>Was not.

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<v Speaker 3>Wise. It brings some people happiness, but not most, not

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<v Speaker 3>as much as a in terms of women, as a

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<v Speaker 3>husband and a family as difficult as husbands and families

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<v Speaker 3>are because human being are difficult. And another thing that

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<v Speaker 3>feminism told women when it told them that they were

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<v Speaker 3>the same was that their sexual drive is similar to

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<v Speaker 3>that of a man, and that just like men are

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<v Speaker 3>very happy to have non commit not committal be essentially

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<v Speaker 3>emotion free sex. So to women, and you can go

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<v Speaker 3>from partner to partner just like men do, and you

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<v Speaker 3>will love it. Well, most women don't love it just

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<v Speaker 3>the way it is. Some women do, there's no question,

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<v Speaker 3>but most women do not. It is not in keeping

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<v Speaker 3>generally with their nature. So feminism did a lot of damage,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's done damage in another way, the obsession with

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<v Speaker 3>the me too. Now I have zero Not only do

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<v Speaker 3>I not defend sexual harassment, let alone sexual assault, which

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<v Speaker 3>is evil, but I actually haven't engaged in it, which

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty remarkable for a man of my age, going

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<v Speaker 3>back to a time when it was more common. But

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought it was wrong to say something inappropriate

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<v Speaker 3>to a woman, especially in a work atmosphere. I just

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<v Speaker 3>assumed that. But in any event, it's gone. It's gone

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<v Speaker 3>too far where men now, young women are telling me this.

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<v Speaker 3>Men are afraid to ask a woman out to as

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<v Speaker 3>we would say in my time. Maybe they still pick

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<v Speaker 3>up a woman at a Starbucks now, because I'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>you why. They are told, Oh, wait a minute, it

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<v Speaker 3>was an unwanted advance. Well, how does a man know

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<v Speaker 3>if an advance is wanted or not until he makes it?

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't know if it's wanted or unwanted. Now, once

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<v Speaker 3>it's unwanted, it's unwanted. But nevertheless, I'm not talking about physical.

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<v Speaker 1>Action.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about just starting a pick up conversation. But men,

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<v Speaker 3>men are now afraid to do that. And it's not

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<v Speaker 3>because they're all whimps. There are a lot of wimpy men,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's not the reason. It's because they they have

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<v Speaker 3>reason to fear that they may well be charged I

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<v Speaker 3>don't mean necessarily legally, but morally in every other way

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<v Speaker 3>with oh, y know, it made want unwanted advances, and

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<v Speaker 3>indeed the woman may even mention it on Twitter, who knows,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's gone. That's gone too far. And finally, I

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<v Speaker 3>charge feminism with not really caring about women. I've said this,

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<v Speaker 3>or I've said this my whole life that feminism is

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<v Speaker 3>much more anti man than it is pro woman, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've never changed my mind on that one. But one

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<v Speaker 3>example of not being pro woman is that I know

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<v Speaker 3>of no feminist movement. I know of feminists, but I

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<v Speaker 3>know of no feminist movement that has come out in

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<v Speaker 3>defense of girls in high schools who have to compete

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<v Speaker 3>against biological males, who say they're female in sports. This

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<v Speaker 3>is not anti transgender. It's a typical example of the

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<v Speaker 3>left not debating but smearing. To say that biological women

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<v Speaker 3>should only compete against biological women is not anti trans

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<v Speaker 3>It is pro fairness, It is pro decency, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is pro woman. No feminist organization has come out in

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<v Speaker 3>defense of these women at the Tokyo Olympics, which are scheduled.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether they'll happen or not, I don't know, but New

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<v Speaker 3>Zealand is apparently going to be sending a trans a

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<v Speaker 3>trans women, that is, a biological male who identifies as

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<v Speaker 3>a woman in the weightlifting competition the most obvious arena

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<v Speaker 3>where men have a built in advantage, and so a

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<v Speaker 3>biological man will be lifting heavy weights against biological women

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<v Speaker 3>who cannot lift the same weights as males can. Is

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<v Speaker 3>that fair? Of course, it's not fair. I'm tempted to

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<v Speaker 3>say you have to go to college to think it

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<v Speaker 3>was fair, which is probably true, which tells you something

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<v Speaker 3>about what college does to the brain. Okay and Dresser

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<v Speaker 3>forty one, Boston, Massachusetts. Hig Dennis, one of my daughter's

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<v Speaker 3>fifth grade friends, came out as gay to her teachers

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<v Speaker 3>and some classmates. The teachers embraced her, encouraged the classmates

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<v Speaker 3>to make the girl feel comfortable in her skin. All

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<v Speaker 3>seems well intended until you find out the parents are

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<v Speaker 3>being kept in the dark about it. What are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 3>Love the fireside chat? Thank you, thank you very much. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>there are a lot of issues here. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>it is mind boggling that the parents are being kept

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<v Speaker 3>out of it, but it is not surprising. See the

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<v Speaker 3>undermining of parental authority is one of the major features

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<v Speaker 3>of all cults, and Leftism, unlike liberalism and unlike conservatism,

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<v Speaker 3>is a cult, and one of the first things they

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<v Speaker 3>do is break parental authority. They give it to the state.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a perfect example that the teacher did not

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<v Speaker 3>feel morally obligated to tell the parents. Your fifth grade

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<v Speaker 3>daughter is announcing to everyone that she's gay. But that

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<v Speaker 3>raises another issue as well, fifth graders knowing that they're gay.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's an interesting question. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>gay friends, I'm going to ask them, did you know

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<v Speaker 3>in fifth grade? In fifth grade, do you know if

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<v Speaker 3>you're heatero sexual? In fifth grade? Do you think about

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<v Speaker 3>heterosexuality and homosexuality or is it that in our age

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<v Speaker 3>where these issues are discussed so early and the innocence

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<v Speaker 3>of children is compromised so early. This has now become

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<v Speaker 3>more common, which is what I think often the issue

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<v Speaker 3>is Jalen seventeen, Alan Park, Michigan. Hey Dennis, I recently

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<v Speaker 3>just started watching your show after seeing ads of them

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<v Speaker 3>on YouTube. My question to you is why do you

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<v Speaker 3>think people decide to choose the left even though they

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<v Speaker 3>divide our country and spread corruption? Which is all true? Also,

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<v Speaker 3>Pineapple on pizza, Thank you. As to Pineapple on pizza,

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<v Speaker 3>My wife likes it. I thought it was inedible and

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<v Speaker 3>then I had it and liked it. What am I

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<v Speaker 3>going to say as to as regards the first part?

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<v Speaker 3>What was that about? Oh? Yes, why do people choose

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<v Speaker 3>the left? The left is the default position, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like there's a default mode on your computer,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a default mode in society. If you don't think

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<v Speaker 3>issues through and just feel you will probably be on

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<v Speaker 3>the left. That is the way it works. For example,

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<v Speaker 3>let the government take care of people is a very

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<v Speaker 3>very nice proposition. It sounds right correct. Let the government

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<v Speaker 3>feed people, pay for their health care, pay for their

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<v Speaker 3>college education, pay for everything in their lives, pay for

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<v Speaker 3>their children's lunches and breakfast at school. This sounds without thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>it sounds moral and beautiful and compassionate. So the default

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<v Speaker 3>position for those who feel is going to always be left.

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<v Speaker 3>There's another reason people prefer to be taken care of

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<v Speaker 3>to liberty. In the choice between being free and taking

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<v Speaker 3>care of yourself, or less free or unfree and having

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<v Speaker 3>the state take care of you, most of humanity will

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<v Speaker 3>choose to have the state take care of them and

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<v Speaker 3>give up freedom. There's no question liberty is a value,

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<v Speaker 3>not an instinct. That's why there are very few free countries.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are very many countries and big governments. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the default position of the human species. Take care of me,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you my freedom. So leftism, for very many reasons,

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<v Speaker 3>is the default. All right, let's see here, Wow, a

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<v Speaker 3>twelve year old Rockville, Maryland micah. How can you defeat

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<v Speaker 3>the left in an argument? If conservative arguments are based

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<v Speaker 3>on reasoning and logic, while left wing arguments are based

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.239
<v Speaker 3>on emotion and feelings, you can defeat them. But they

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<v Speaker 3>won't debate. That was ironically, that was my opening statement.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not hard at all. But if they don't debate,

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<v Speaker 3>that's very hard to defeat anybody in the debate if

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<v Speaker 3>they don't debate. Zai in twenty six Pulaski, Tennessee hel

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<v Speaker 3>almost the prager. In a couple of your more recent

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<v Speaker 3>fireside chats, you have mentioned that you do not agree

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<v Speaker 3>with the idea of unconditional love. Correct In support of

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<v Speaker 3>your view, you reference the condition between God and man

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<v Speaker 3>to accept his son in order to retain eternal life.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't recall using that example. I might have, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not Christian. I'm Jewish in belief. I'm pro Christian

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<v Speaker 3>very much so, as you probably know. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember using that particular example. I've always heard

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<v Speaker 3>God loves the sinner and not the sin. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so God's love. Does God love require our acceptance of

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<v Speaker 3>his son? Or does God love us no matter what

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<v Speaker 3>is and is willing to let us make ourver say? So,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I did use that, maybe in speaking about Christians,

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't even think Christians should believe in unconditional love.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the biblical basis of it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the logical basis of it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the moral basis of it is

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<v Speaker 3>if love is given unconditionally, then love has been removed

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<v Speaker 3>from moral considerations. It is becoming the only a moral

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<v Speaker 3>act in life. That's what you're saying. There's no moral

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<v Speaker 3>quality to love, no matter how despicable, cruel, vile you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you just as much as I love the kind.

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<v Speaker 3>That means love has no moral quality to it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>bizarre to me, just bizarre. You really think it's an

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<v Speaker 3>ideal to love torturers as much as Mother Teresa. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't get it, and I mean it. I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a matter of hyperbole or rhetorical device. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't get it. It is better to love the kind.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a moral ideal to love the kind. That's my belief.

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<v Speaker 3>What to me, the idea that God is in heaven,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's sort of like an air conditioner. Air Conditioners

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<v Speaker 3>are a moral right. They condition the room if a

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 3>hitler walks in, and they condition the room if the

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<v Speaker 3>Mother Teresa walks in. Correct, right, So that is how

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<v Speaker 3>people who speak of God's unconditional love to me are

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<v Speaker 3>speaking about God. He just blows his love onto everybody equally.

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<v Speaker 3>It is irrelevant how people treat other people. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know where that's from. By the way, if you check it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very interesting. Google has a fascinating graph on the

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 3>use of terms in books and magazines and newspapers in

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<v Speaker 3>the course of the last one hundred years, from the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning of the twentieth century. Years and I looked up

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<v Speaker 3>unconditional love, and the graph goes like this, so virtually nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen hundred, virtually nothing, then a little climb, then a

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 3>little climb, and after the nineteen fifties it's like a mountain.

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<v Speaker 3>The use of the term unconditional love skyrockets after the

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<v Speaker 3>fifties when people became stupid. And that's it cracks me up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like perfect. The timing is perfect now with people.

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<v Speaker 3>The joke is as America got more secular, it spoke

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<v Speaker 3>more about unconditional love, not as it got more religious.

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 3>When America was much more religious in the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>the twentieth century, people didn't talk about unconditional love. So

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<v Speaker 3>so much for those of you who are religious and

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<v Speaker 3>think it's a religious idea on conditional love, unconditional love

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<v Speaker 3>is a secular idea that I utterly reject, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a religious idea that I utterly reject. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know exactly how God figures out whom he

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<v Speaker 3>loves or not. But it's very hard for me to

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<v Speaker 3>believe that God looks upon people who who massacre other

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<v Speaker 3>human beings. I love you, it's just I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see it. And you know, people say, by

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 3>the way, people say, well, it's like children. If your

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<v Speaker 3>children murders, you will still love you, will still love

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 3>that if your if your child murders, you will still

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<v Speaker 3>love your child. Well, first of all, it's not a

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<v Speaker 3>fully analogous thing, because we are humans and humans are flawed,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm not sure that that is a perfect analogy.

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<v Speaker 3>But even then, I'm not sure that it's true. There

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<v Speaker 3>are plenty of parents who have seen behavior and children

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<v Speaker 3>and don't love them quite as much as they did earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>or quite as much as they love their good children.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me put it to you this way, if one

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<v Speaker 3>of your children murders another one of your children, it's

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<v Speaker 3>hard for me to believe you will love that child

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<v Speaker 3>quite as much as you did before. Because remember, we're

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<v Speaker 3>all God's children. So the person who tortures another person

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<v Speaker 3>is one child of God torturing another child of God.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not I'm not even sure that the child

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 3>analogy among humans quite works out. There are parents who

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<v Speaker 3>have given up on their awful children, and I mean

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean that they won't welcome them if they come back.

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<v Speaker 3>God welcomes us if we do penitence. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>if God loves me anyway, why be penitent? If I

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<v Speaker 3>have God's love while I continue to kill, rape and murder,

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<v Speaker 3>well that's the same thing, murder, rape and steel. Then

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<v Speaker 3>why stop? He loves me anyway? I got a lot

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 3>of our im it's against the idea. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite verb is? I mean near the end? Are

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 3>we at the end? My favorite verb? Did I ever

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<v Speaker 3>tell you? You know? Right? Do you know? You both

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<v Speaker 3>know the E word? It's hold together?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people, it's a very fun thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Ask what is your favorite four letter word?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you ask young men, we all know,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we won't even go there. So let's leave

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<v Speaker 3>out the sexual for a moment. But I think people

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<v Speaker 3>would say love, right, A lot of people would say love,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would not. I would say ern. Ern is

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<v Speaker 3>a beautiful word. I want to earn love I don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want unconditional love from anybody. I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want it from my kids. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>it from my wife. What does that mean? No matter

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<v Speaker 3>how I behave? So if I come home, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and and beat up some members of my household, just

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<v Speaker 3>mistreat everybody, you will you will love me the same.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I don't even think it's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 3>If you think your spouse will love you no matter

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<v Speaker 3>how you act, you're not going to act as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think emotional insecurity is very, very good. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want you to be fully secure in the love of people.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not fully secure that my my my syndicator, my

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<v Speaker 3>radio syndicator will hire me every time my contract comes up.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a good thing. Every single day I think,

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<v Speaker 3>after thirty five years, this better be my best show

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<v Speaker 3>or my job is on the line. I do better

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't have an unconditional contract with my with

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<v Speaker 3>my employer. If unconditional love is good, why isn't an

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<v Speaker 3>unconditional contract good? Think about that one. Till next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Dennis Prager, thanks for being.

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<v Speaker 1>With me tomorrow on Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager.

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<v Speaker 3>Audrey, i'mon Waitesburg, Washington. Hi, Dennis, what do you think

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<v Speaker 3>about assisted suicide? I noticed you avoid this topic. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I've avoided it, but I don't talk about

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<v Speaker 3>it much. But I don't think I've avoided it. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's something we must speak to. Everyone is compassion

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<v Speaker 3>for those suffering and pain who are terminally ill. However,

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<v Speaker 3>pain management is the answer, not assisted suicide. If you

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<v Speaker 3>took if you look at the expense or the experience,

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<v Speaker 3>my glasses are in need of a reading glass part

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<v Speaker 3>better than I have. Anyway, if you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>experience of every nation where it's been tried, you'll see

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<v Speaker 3>it is indeed a slippery slope. In Canada, oh poor Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes under the ever so comforting acronym of made

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<v Speaker 3>medical assistance to dying and let me see lost my

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<v Speaker 3>spot here and the let's see it goes under the

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<v Speaker 3>ever so comforting acronym of medical assistance and dying, and

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<v Speaker 3>the abuses are so frightening. Senior's report being told they

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<v Speaker 3>could move into assisted living or or chose or choose

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<v Speaker 3>that's they spelled it wrong, or choose suicide. Disabled people

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<v Speaker 3>living in poverty are eligible. Two disabled women on welfare

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<v Speaker 3>were unable to receive housing that would meet their unique needs. Ever,

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<v Speaker 3>helpful Social Services suggested they take advantage of the offer

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<v Speaker 3>of assistant suicide, which they did. I'm laughing because what

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<v Speaker 3>a suggestion. The words mature miners are now being discussed,

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<v Speaker 3>so depressed teens can receive the assisted suicide since having

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<v Speaker 3>a psychiatric illness will soon make one qualified for made

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<v Speaker 3>m aid, which is their term for medical assistance in dying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an important topic my thinking. Only those convicted of

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<v Speaker 3>a capital crime should ever be put to death. There

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<v Speaker 3>is a good reason the hippocratic oath says, first, do

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<v Speaker 3>no harm. We do not have the wisdom to dispense

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<v Speaker 3>death to others. The potential for abuse is staggering. As

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<v Speaker 3>the mom of a disabled son who loves his life

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<v Speaker 3>that could be euthanized tomorrow in the Netherlands, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>we must speak up. It's an extremely difficult subject and

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<v Speaker 3>there's certainly no perfect answer. I'm convinced I'm not an

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<v Speaker 3>absolutist in the no camp, and I'm certainly not in

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<v Speaker 3>the yes camp. My brother is the head of medical

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<v Speaker 3>ethics at an Ivy League university. He's a doctor and

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<v Speaker 3>I the last I spoke to him about it. His

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<v Speaker 3>position was it should be illegal, but doctors should figure

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<v Speaker 3>out ways to do it when necessary and just not

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<v Speaker 3>be prosecuted. That's my position. There are times when the

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<v Speaker 3>only truly merciful thing is to put somebody to death,

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<v Speaker 3>But those are Those are not normal times, but they exist.

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