1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Hey Adam, welcome across walk Talk. Thanks for joining me. Hey, 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: thank you so much for having me Michael Adam. Of course, 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: you are a lead pastor of east Side Community Church 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: in Dallas, an author and a podcaster, and you are 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: the author of a new children's book. I really enjoyed 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: looking at this What will You Teach Me? It's published 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: by BNH. 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Really unique book. I'm going to let you tell folks. 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: About it, what inspired you to write it, and maybe 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: what hold does it fit? 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah in the market, Well, yeah, there's a lot of 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: kids books out there, that's for sure, and certainly a 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 3: lot of people equipping families to tell their kids about 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 3: Jesus or to disciple their families. That's where we spend 16 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: a lot of our time on our podcast and on 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: our writing. But what felt like in a lot of 18 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: kids books was lacking. Or you'll have a book that 19 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: tells kids about Jesus, and you'll have another book that 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: teaches kids their colors. You'll have a book that teachers 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: kids their letters, you have a book that's just silly. 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: You have all kinds of different kinds of kids books. 23 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: But what was missing in my mind is a book 24 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: that showed all these things you're teaching your very little 25 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: kids about their numbers, their colors, music, food, all these 26 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: kind of basic things you'd learn in a kid's book. 27 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: They all point us back to Jesus. They actually teach 28 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 3: us something about God. They actually show us that God 29 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: is the one who designed math. God is the one 30 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 3: who gave us language. God is the one who gave 31 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: us science and discovery and music, and he left us 32 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: with things to read. 33 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: And so a kid's book, hopefully where. 34 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: There's kids who are delighted by all the illustrations and 35 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: the questions and the animals, but also are learning from 36 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: their parents the most important lesson that comes alongside every 37 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: lesson that saw our science lessons teach us about how 38 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: are God created, how he feels about us, and our 39 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: math lessons that teach us how God is orderly and 40 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: organized and he measures things and he has made us measured. 41 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: And so that's the idea, is that it's a delight 42 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: of a kid's book that does everything a normal kid's 43 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: book would do, but. 44 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: Combines a lot of those genres together. 45 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Save me the target audience for fearing who are curious 46 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: what age is this for? 47 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other thing. 48 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: So my wife and I ministry, we've made middle grade 49 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: Bible studies. We've made a kid's book for young readers. 50 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: This is our youngest attempt. So this is for kids 51 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: from babies to four years old. So it's kids that 52 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: are just learning how to read, just learning their colors, 53 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: just learning how to doodle. 54 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: And there's a lot going on in every page. 55 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: With the idea that these kids are going to look 56 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: at this book over and over again. 57 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: That's why it's a bored book, you know. 58 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: So the pages are harder to tear out, the pages 59 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 3: are harder to damage, with the idea that this kind 60 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: of book is the one a kid's going to read 61 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: a hundred times. 62 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been there many times. I know. 63 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: My first introduction to parenting, One of my first introductions 64 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: to parenting was was when my kid, my first child, 65 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: it was about one. 66 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: He tried to eat the book and so. 67 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: I realized, oh, this is this is why, this is 68 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: why we have board books for one of the reasons 69 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: we have a lot of books. 70 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Maybe the next one we can do. We can we 71 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: can make an edible book like a page of croc. 72 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: Let a pagent pe. That's right, it's gonna be great. 73 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: Read from the description the book, what we're talking about, 74 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 2: what will you teach me? It includes interactive educational opportunities 75 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: for kids to count, name colors and shapes, point out 76 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: in different types of animals and more. And of course 77 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: it teaches that God is the inventor of all things 78 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: we can learn, and parents can help teach those ideas 79 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: and their children. You are the host of a podcast, 80 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: the Family Discipleship Podcast. How do you see this book 81 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,279 Speaker 2: kind of aligning with your broader mission of family discipleship. 82 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, you know, several years ago I wrote a 83 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: book with Matt Chandler called Family Discipleship that's about spiritually 84 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: leading your family. And our friends at Training the Church, 85 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: the Knowing Faith Podcast, they came to us and asked 86 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: us to think about doing a podcast that would equip 87 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: parents to spiritually lead their family. And from that we've 88 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: also created a series of resources like I've talked about 89 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: for different ages, this again our youngest one. And so 90 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: the idea of that podcast again is to equip parents 91 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: to spiritually lead it home in ways that honestly, parents 92 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: kind of mystify probably more than it needs to be, 93 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: make it more difficult and unattainable in their minds than 94 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: it needs to be. So we're also trying to demystify 95 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: make accessible this idea that you can lead your home 96 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: spiritually without being a seminary grad theologian, and scholar. And 97 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: this is a great example of that where you know, 98 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: maybe a lot of parents, especially if they didn't grow 99 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: up around Christian education around the church, may not realize 100 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: that the simplest lessons we teach are rooted in what 101 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: we know is true about God. And so this book 102 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: fits what we've always tried to do, which is a 103 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: quick parents to think about discipling their children. My wife 104 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: is fond of saying our podcast is not a parenting podcast. 105 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: It's a discipleship podcast. 106 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: It's about how you help your children become friends and 107 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: followers of Christ. But it's also our attempt to disciple 108 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: moms and dads as they follow Christ. And a lot 109 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: of kids books that are written for Christians, the real 110 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: target audience is the parent who's reading them. I would 111 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: say this one is less so that we really are 112 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: aiming at the youngest kids, but certainly I think there's 113 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: an edi by work that's done in the heart of 114 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: a parent as they consider all the different things they 115 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: do or a living or around their home, and how 116 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 3: those things teach them about the Lord. 117 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: Adam, do you think we sometimes create an unnecessary divide 118 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: between the spiritual and the secular and learning when in 119 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: reality alwaysdom of knowledge you know, comes from God. 120 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of the reasons. 121 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: You know, we help parents a lot think through school choices, 122 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: and there's some great, you know, opportunities to be in 123 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: public schools or homeschooled, and we've done many of those 124 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: options ourselves. But one of the beautiful things about a 125 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: Christian education are truly Christian education, not necessarily just a 126 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: private education, but a Christian education helps us bridge that gap. 127 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: You know what the really sad thing is, Michael, that 128 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: the priority level in this generation where we would make 129 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: sure our kid learns math, and make sure our kid 130 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: learns how to read, and make sure our kids no science, 131 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: and make sure our kids no history, but when it 132 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: comes to learning the Bible, we'd kind of casually go, 133 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: I bet they'll pick up enough as they go, you know, 134 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: I bet they'll you know, by being a church they'll 135 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: probably pick up enough, or they'll have a Saineti school 136 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: teacher that'll probably teach them enough. We would never treat 137 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: math or science or history that way. So while math 138 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: and science and history also point us to Christ, a 139 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: class or a time of discipleship that overtly teaches them 140 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: about Christ has often taken the back burner. And so 141 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: where we're trying to help parents see is not only 142 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: do all these subjects point us to God, but there's 143 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: a real opportunity here to say, there's nothing more important 144 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: that I want you to learn than who God is 145 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: and how He loves you. And it's not as simple 146 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: as just knowing the characters of the Bible and a 147 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: few of the stories. We're not talking about familiarity with scripture. 148 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: We want to actually have our kids be challenged by 149 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: the levels of theology they can approach in our own house. 150 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: Because we are being challenged, we're being discipled, and so 151 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: it's a critically important thing. And you're right, there's been 152 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: a secular divide that's kind of made these subjects are 153 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: important about One of my favorite authors in this area, 154 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: John Tyson, talks about discipling his son and how if 155 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: he got up every morning early and took his kid 156 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: to football practice, our generation wouldn't. 157 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: Blink an eye. 158 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: But if he gets that very up every morning earlier 159 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: than he has to to disciple this kid and read 160 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: the Bible together, people will be like, man, that's intense. 161 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: You go, well, why does that seemed more intense? This 162 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: is so much more important than football about our generational 163 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: black and I at math tests, are math worksheets or 164 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: history lessons, but we'd kind of go and we'd expect 165 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: our kids to get good grades in those and study 166 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: hard to do their projects. But when it comes to 167 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: the Bible, we'd give give a pass and just say, 168 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: you know, you know. I bet you know enough by 169 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: the time you're four. You're familiar with Noah, You're familiar 170 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: with Adam and Eve. You know Jesus died of the Cross. 171 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: That's probably good enough. Now, I want a lifelong discipleship, 172 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: and I think that is going to take bridging some 173 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: of these gaps from the way we've emphasized the secular 174 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: education and deemphasized discipleship. 175 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: Let me ask you more in basic questions I should 176 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: have asked you at the beginning of it is I've 177 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: heard of all my life, I've heard about discipleship and 178 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: in church, and of course you're you're talking about family discipleship. Yep, 179 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: give me kind of a definition of that in your mind. 180 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: And I say that from this framework, when I read 181 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: Genesis and Exodus, it seems like that's what they were doing. 182 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: They were doing family discipleship. That's what all those commandments 183 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: were about, you know, teaching your kids and all that. 184 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: Is that what you're talking about in terms of what 185 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: family discipleship truly is. 186 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: That's a big part of it. Yeah. 187 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: So if discipleship, if we take it at his most 188 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: basic level, some people would kind of think of discipleship 189 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: as an education program in a church. Some people think 190 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: of it as evangelism, like how do we reach people 191 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: who don't know Christ? Or how do we mature those 192 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: who do? And I would say discipleship should encompass both. 193 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: Discipleship is about becoming friends and followers of God. Right, 194 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: So at its most basic level, you're helping. Then you're 195 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: helping somebody mature. You don't have to be an expert 196 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: help somebody mature. You can actually walk alongside someone help 197 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: the mature. You don't have to be walking so far 198 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: ahead of them. And at Exodus, Moses is leading the 199 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: people out of Israel and in Deuteronomy, he gives them 200 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: this long speech before they enter the Promised Land, that's 201 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: what you're referring to, Michael, And before or they enter, 202 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: he tells these people, here's the command of God, the 203 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: most important one. You're gonna love God with your whole heart, 204 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: soul in mind. Ironically, again, secularly, we know what this 205 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: looks like, right Michael. If somebody said they loved a 206 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: football team with their whole heart, soul and mind't we 207 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: would have certain expectations. Oh, I bet that means you 208 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: wear some of their gear. I bet your house is 209 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: decorated with some of their stuff. I bet you spend time, 210 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: maybe even spend time with your family sitting around watching 211 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: their games, maybe even spend your money going to their games. 212 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: You probably build your calendar around when your team is playing. 213 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: Those are things that happen when we say you love 214 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: this team with your whole heart, soul, and mind. When 215 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: we say love God with your heart, soul and mind 216 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: is very similar. Moses follows that up with that means 217 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: it's going to impact what you're talking about, And you're 218 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: gonna talk about this all the time when you get up, 219 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: when you go to bed, when you're on your way. 220 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: It's gonna affect the way what you wear, it's gonna 221 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: affect what you put up on the house. It's gonna 222 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: be something that is just the truest and most important 223 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: thing about you. Ironically, while we might romanticize that and 224 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: see like see they get it now, the generation immediately 225 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: after that rebels they handed off to Joshua. At the 226 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: end of Deuteronomy and Joshua, it says the generation after 227 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: Joshua did not follow God, and it actually calls back 228 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: to the same idea that their parents did not pass 229 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: us on. And this is not just for parents. I mean, 230 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: it's the churches, the church at large. Right, the Christian 231 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: older generation's role is to invest in the next generation. 232 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: So it's not just for parents, it's for an entire 233 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: generation of adults to say, what are we doing to 234 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 3: share what we believe with another generation that is growing 235 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: up right now. So it is pointing back to Genesis 236 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: and Exodus, it is pointing back to Douterani. But it's 237 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 3: also Michael. Of course, what we heard Jesus' command, right, 238 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: He said to you, guys should be making disciples. And 239 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: it's what we saw Jesus doing. We saw him making disciples. 240 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: So if we're followers of Jesus, we want to do 241 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: what Jesus did, we shouldn't we be the kind of 242 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: people who listen to what he said to do and 243 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: follow his example. Then what was he doing making disciples? 244 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: What did he say to do? Make disciples? So that 245 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: starts for a lot of us behind our front door. 246 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: We're in our own homes, but it's not limited there, 247 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: and we're making disciples wherever. Disciples need to be made 248 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: everywhere we go. So it's not certainly not just the 249 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: Old Testament, and it's actually a beautiful part of the 250 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: New Testament. But that is a good place to root 251 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: it him that this has always been true. 252 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: About God's people. We help each other follow God. 253 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: Let's circle back to the book that we're talking about 254 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the episode here, What will You 255 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: Teach Me? By BNHB. Do you see this being the 256 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: first of a series of books. Do you have other 257 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: ideas in your mind that you want to tackle in 258 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: this genre. 259 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: That's a good question. 260 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: We do want to do a book that equips parents 261 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: of kids this age, so thinking about the child dedications 262 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: or thinking about discipleship from you know, there's not a 263 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: lot of work out there for when you get pregnant. 264 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: How do you think about discipling this baby? You think 265 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: about sleep, do you think about food? You think about play, 266 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: You don't think about rare, You don't think about spiritual 267 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: leadership of a kid who can't speak yet. And so 268 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: we do see ourselves probably writing a book for parents 269 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: in that age. Then our kind of history has been 270 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: we're hitting different age groups. I think next we're probably 271 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: going to do our resource sets for families to do 272 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: devotions together of any age. But I've not got a 273 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: series in mind yet, though. I always have some kids 274 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: book ideas bouncing around in my head, and I don't 275 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: know if they'll ever become something or not, but they're 276 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: up there, and one day they might be out there. 277 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: We'll see. I'll give you one more. 278 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: Bitut of hair for parents of young kids, pages toddlers one, two, three, four. 279 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: What do you want to do? What do you want 280 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: to tell them about this book before I let you go? 281 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say this is what I hear from 282 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: parents right now, is it quickly becomes their kid's favorite 283 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: book just because of the illustrations. Okay, the illustrations are fantastic. 284 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: There's so many animals and there's so much going on 285 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: that your kid won't realize everything on every page until 286 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: they've read it three or four times. So that was 287 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 3: intentional that there's just it is a mess of activity. 288 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: On every page. 289 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: But the content of the book and the opportunity you 290 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: have the disciple your kid through it, that's what's going 291 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: to make it one of your favorite books. 292 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: So kids love it because of the pictures. 293 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: I hope parents love it because it's going to spiritually 294 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: bless them as they try to spiritually bless their kids. 295 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 3: So if you're going to a baby shower or if 296 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: you've got a kid of your own, and I hope 297 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: this is one that you'll consider doing because it's just 298 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: different than other kids books. It's going to help you realize, Hey, 299 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: we're going to teach us kid a lot of things, 300 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 3: but most importantly about Jesus. 301 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: If you enjoy today's interview, please make sure to subscribe 302 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 4: and share the episode with a friend. A big thanks 303 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: to the team at life Audio for their partnership with 304 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: us on the podcast. 305 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: If you go to lifeaudio dot 306 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: Com, you will find dozens of other faith centered podcasts 307 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: in their network see you next time.