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A telephone number, eight five fives to Gall. 54 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: It's really something I don't think we've seen as a 55 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: country before, but here we are. Eight five five Stagall 56 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: is how you want to get in here today? If 57 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: you want to get in here today, and you can 58 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: follow me online at Chris Stigall on x on Facebook, 59 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: Instagram and Christigall dot com is where all of it is, 60 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: as well as our three times a week newsletter that 61 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: Hrump Society. The Kamakazi Left. I'm not sure what you 62 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: do with a movement that is willing to die to 63 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: score political points. Have never been here. They're willing to 64 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: sacrifice a lot. But I don't know that I've ever 65 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: known the American left quite literally put their lives in 66 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: jeopardy just to score political points they're not even gonna 67 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: be around to see. But that's what we have going 68 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: on in Minneapolis. Now. They are trying, as we've been 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 2: talking about, they're trying to distract and make legacy media, 70 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: and frankly, not just legacy media, but all media do 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: nothing but talk about indiscriminate shootings by ICE agents. It's 72 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: the wild West. They're all Yosemite, Sam, and they're all 73 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: running around Minneapolis guns ablazing, indiscriminately firing at anything moving 74 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: like it's the old Nintendo game Duck Hunt. Now, of 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: course you know that's not true. I know that's not true. 76 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: How many Americans know that's not true? 77 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: Will? 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: It kind of depends on what they're watching and what 79 00:03:52,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: they're consuming. I mean, even this morning, as I read headlines, 80 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: Fox News has one protests erupt and clash with federal 81 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: officers after another ICE shooting in Minneapolis. Now that's their 82 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: most recent headline. To be fair to them, they had 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: written one with more context about five hours prior overnight. 84 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: But even the most recent Fox News headline, and I 85 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: was reading the story leaves the reader to just read 86 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 2: that the streets of Minneapolis are royaling because quote, another 87 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: man was shot another person was shot by ICE agents 88 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: with zero context in the story. And furthermore, if you 89 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: look at MSNBC or whatever they call themselves. Now, if 90 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: you look at the New York Times, if you look 91 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: at CNN, all of them this morning are saying ICE 92 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: shoots man, another man shot in Minneapolis. Does context matter here? 93 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: Of course it does, because if you actually know the 94 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: story of what happened, the American public would one hundred 95 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: percent understand this and one hundred percent be with Ice 96 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: as they are with the Renee Good story when she 97 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: drove her car into the ICE agent. The American public, 98 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: that's why it was never polled. I was making this 99 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: point yesterday. Have you seen any polling on the Renee 100 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: Good story? All the celebrities wearing their lapel pen it's 101 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: all coordinated, folks. This is for show, it's for consumption. 102 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: We're headed into the midterms and they desperately need something, 103 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: and so they've decided Ice is their ticket to victory 104 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: in the fall. They do not want to talk about 105 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: this fraud. They can't have it, certainly in the epicenter 106 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: of Minnesota. So what do they do. They get the 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: streets roiling. They're doing the same thing they did this 108 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: is I forget who wrote the piece this is I 109 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: think it was my friend Jack Cashell, who we might 110 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: get on tomorrow. He wrote a piece that this is 111 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: very very similar to Treyvon hands Up, Don't Shoot. Remember 112 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: that that was all a fraud, a total lie after 113 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: it was investigated, but it didn't stop. If you go 114 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: back and look at hands Up, Don't Shoot, that was 115 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: a complete lie, total fabrication. And all the celebrities did 116 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: the same thing. All the celebrities wore the pins to 117 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: their award shows, and there was protesting in the streets, 118 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: and the media covered it and it all ended up 119 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: being a colossal manufactured lie, just like the Renee Good 120 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: story is a colossal manufactured lie. Just like this morning, 121 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: another colossal manufactured lie. That Ice Yosemite Sam just pulled 122 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: out their gun. Anybody moving, bang bang bang. The ICE 123 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: agents are just up there shooting people. Is what you'd 124 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: be forgiven for believing if you read most legacy media 125 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: today and I'm sorry to say even including Fox News, 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: and you weren't listening to shows like this for context, 127 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: And here's the context. Ice agents in the hospital. Did 128 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: you know that? Did you even know that the agent 129 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: in the hospital. Does that matter? 130 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 6: Oh? 131 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: Did you know? By the way, even CBS reported this 132 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: that the guy that Renee Good rammed with her car 133 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: suffered internal bleeding. Did you know that? Do we care? 134 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: Anybody care about that? Or no? I guess to ICE 135 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: agents have it coming. The only good ICE agent is 136 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: a dead ICE agent, I suppose. Is that our new 137 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: Anyway ICE agent in the hospital after being ambushed. Did 138 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: you know that? Oh? I thought it was just a man. 139 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: I thought it was just a nice man walking to 140 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: the grocery or something, and then an ICE agent saw 141 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: him moving and bang, because that's what they do. They're 142 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: all trigger happy, right. No, the agent was ambushed by 143 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: two people while attempting to conduct a traffic stop on 144 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: an illegal alien in Venezuela. Of course, out wes same deal. 145 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: Last week two Venezuelan's got in the car tried to 146 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: mowdown ICE agents too. We have shared with you the 147 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: stories that there are trainings on how to basically run 148 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: over ICE agents with your car, extensive trainings. This is 149 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: all made for your consumption. It's exactly the same as 150 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: the George Floyd stuff during COVID, the marches, the looting 151 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: all coordinated. The piles of bricks on the palettes on 152 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: the corner. It's all coordinated. This is a new show 153 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: to kick off a new year. President Trump is rolling, 154 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: the economy is recovering. We're coming from a position of 155 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: strength for the first time in a long time. The 156 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: Democrats have been uncovered in a massive fraudulent scam, taking 157 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: your taxpayer money by the billions, funneling it through a 158 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: bunch of immigrants from Samoa and other places, shipping it home. 159 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: Our border has been locked down. This stuff the Left 160 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: has been exposed. These cockroaches, the light has been turned 161 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: on and they're scattering. And this is what it looks like. 162 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: Man shot by ice agent again, another shooting of man, 163 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: just like Renee Good was woman and Maryland man before that. 164 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: They're always man and woman, innocent people going about their day, 165 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,119 Speaker 2: headed to target when they became the target or whatever 166 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: manufactured lie. So the agent was ambushed by two people 167 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: while attempting to conduct a traffic stop on an illegal 168 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: alien from Venezuela. The agent fired his gun during the 169 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: attack because he was fearing for his life and safety. 170 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: Probably didn't hear that. The incident began about six fifty 171 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: Central time. Federal law enforcement attempted to make a traffic stop. 172 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: The suspect was released into the country under the BIDE 173 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: deministration in twenty twenty two. Not a surprise, the suspect 174 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: attempted to evade arrest by driving off, crashed into a 175 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: parked car, and that's when he fled on foot. According 176 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: to DHS, When an officer caught up to the suspect 177 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: and attempted to take him into custody, the suspect resisted 178 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: and violently assaulted the officer. Did you know no that 179 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: it was just a man. I thought he was out 180 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: grocery shopping. I thought it was just a kindly man. Shot. 181 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, he's an illegal alien. Did you 182 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: know that? I thought it was a man ed. I 183 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: thought it just a man like you. I mean, it 184 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: may as well have been you. The way the media 185 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: is reporting this today. Does it matter that he's an 186 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: illegal alien from Venezuela, evading arrest and violently reacting trying 187 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: to beat up the officer? Does any of that matter? 188 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 3: I don't know what the what it is with the 189 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: m States this year, but he is now the Minnesota man, 190 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: not the Mariland man you know before him. 191 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: He's a man, just a man. And then DHS says 192 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: two additional individuals came out of a nearby apartment while 193 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: the officer and suspect were struggling on the ground and 194 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: started attacking the officer with a snowshovel and a broom. 195 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: Did you know that? Why this kindly man just minding 196 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: his own business. The illegal alien from Venezuela crashing his car, 197 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 2: trying to flee, getting out, running away, captured, wrestles and 198 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: assaults the ice officer. Two more people come out and 199 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: start assaulting the officer while trying to conduct the law 200 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: enforcement exercise. Three people now on ice officer, assaulting him, 201 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: attacking him, his gun his only means of defense, and 202 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: he shoots this man in the leg. No, less, that's 203 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: the presence of mind this officer has, doesn't shoot him 204 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: in the chest where he likely deserved to be shot. 205 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: Quite frankly, and by the way, it's lucky that two 206 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: more people with a broom and a shovel aren't dead too. 207 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: But isn't that what they want? I dare say that's 208 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: what these people want. They're desperate for it. Actually, we've 209 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: never seen it like this before. I kind of used 210 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: it as a turn of phrase last week because I 211 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: thought I was being cute, But I'm not kidding anymore. 212 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: The Kamikazi left. They are willing to god Ice Aid 213 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: into discharging their firearm and perhaps even dying if it 214 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: means scoring political points to make Ice look like the villain, 215 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: and the media, of course, dutifully applies. The original suspect 216 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: breaking free after the altercation began striking the officer joining 217 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: in with the shovel, and Broom handled with the other two, 218 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: and that's when the officer to fired defensive shots. All 219 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: three suspects then barricaded themselves inside the apartment before being 220 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: taken into DHS custody. Now, if you heard the entirety 221 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: of that story, would you feel differently about it than 222 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 2: if you were watching say CNN or MS now or 223 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: reading the New York Times this morning where they all 224 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: say exactly the same thing. And I took a picture 225 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: of this. Federal agents shoots man, New York Times, Federal 226 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: agent shoots man. Tense protests after federal agent shoots man. 227 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: They're all saying it this morning, every one of them. 228 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 2: This was an illegal alien. Yes he was a man, 229 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: but he was a lawbreaker. And two other lawbreakers joined 230 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: in and assaulting someone trying to uphold the law. These 231 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: are animals, not men. Let's go to John in Michigan 232 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: this morning to kick things off. John. I'm glad you called. 233 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: Welcome in, Sir, Hi, Good morning, Chris. 234 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 6: I've been listening to you since day one, and it 235 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 6: just keeps getting better and better. 236 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: Brother. 237 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: Hey, I can't tell you how much that means to me. Sincerely, John, 238 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: thank you. 239 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 6: Okay. So I keep seeing a lot of videos on 240 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 6: the news of these ICE agents and there's only it 241 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 6: seems like in the photos there's only three four guys. 242 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 6: I think they need to do a little redirection and 243 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 6: maybe have less presence in multiple locations, but have more 244 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 6: ICE agents in each location. I don't think any ICE 245 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 6: agent should be alone, or there should be two or three. 246 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 6: It should be twenty or thirty or fifty. 247 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's been discussion, and I think I 248 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: don't remember if President Trump brought this up or I 249 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: brought it up. I think I actually asked her rumfers 250 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: at the newsletter whether they thought, do you want to 251 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: see National Guard deployed to back these people up doing 252 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: work of ICE? Would that help? I'm not sure I 253 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: don't know if they have the manpower and resources at 254 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: ICE to pack that many people into one operation, but 255 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: maybe they need military reinforcement. I don't know. What do 256 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: you think? 257 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 6: I don't know, but it's difficult with National Guard because 258 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 6: most National guardsmen are volunteers, and you know, they do 259 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 6: their two weeks or whatever and when there's when there's 260 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 6: a catastrophic event. But for them to be long term 261 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 6: away from their jobs, I don't know. I just I 262 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 6: think less locations right now, but but kind of consolidate 263 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 6: the ICE agents so there's more of them in each location. 264 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: I told John, I'm sure you Yeah. Sorry to interrupt you. 265 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: I are you headed to work today? Out of curiosity? 266 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: I am, sir? 267 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: Does this stuff come up at work? Just out of 268 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: because I sit here in a studio all day, I 269 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: can't I must confess, I don't get to talk to 270 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: a lot of folks outside of this room. The stuff 271 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: like this come up at work or not really. 272 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 6: I work in a company of about fifty people in 273 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 6: the office Chris and three of us are conservatives and 274 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 6: the rest are raging liberals, so we don't talk about it. 275 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, do you do you ever overhear it, 276 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: like everybody just tries to avoid it and doesn't bring 277 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: it up at all. 278 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 6: They just don't talk about it. I mean, it's I 279 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 6: just think there a lot of the people out there 280 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 6: are just indifferent, which being indifferent about the safety of 281 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 6: our country and our constitution. 282 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 7: And the laws. 283 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 6: I don't know how you can be indifferent about it. 284 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 6: I really don't. 285 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: You're not listen. I completely agree. I asked the question 286 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: because I was genuinely curious what the public reaction, for 287 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: real is. I have not seen, and I'm going to 288 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: dig around a little more during the break, but I 289 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: still think I stand on this as true. Who I've 290 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: not seen any polling to suggest the American public do 291 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: not support cracking down on illegal aliens in the country 292 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: and if ICE officers are assaulted in the process, I've 293 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: not seen any polling to suggest Americans don't stand with 294 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: the ICE officers. And because I've not seen any polling 295 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: to suggest that anecdotally, that's what I believe most Americans 296 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: know instinctively what's going on here, and it's why Donald 297 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: Trump is president twice, John, And I'm so grateful for 298 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: the call. I believe ultimately Donald Trump won two elections 299 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: on this very issue, and so celebrities can wear their 300 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: ribbons all they want, media can continue to write about 301 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: the innocent people. Ice is just indiscriminately shooting. But I 302 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: think Americans know full well what's up, assuming they're paying attention. 303 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: John points out a lot of indifference too. I don't know. 304 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: I'll keep a sharp eye on it. Hang on, listen 305 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: to John Fetterman in number fifty six. Here he seems 306 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: to be getting more strident about this as time goes 307 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: on as a Democrat, which is kind of amazing. I 308 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: don't know if he's people. Look, if you're a cynic, 309 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: you believe he's gearing up for reelection and he knows 310 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: what the American people want. And basically it backs up 311 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: my working theory that any kind of polling that we've 312 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: seen on it. I just told you yesterday, this third 313 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: way polling outfit is warning Democrats this abolished ice talk, 314 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: you better bail on it. It's not popular. Americans want 315 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: the law upheld. Democrats, even Democrats, even those who vote Democrat, 316 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: don't like illegal aliens breaking into the country. Now, the 317 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: establishment political class of the Democrats do. That's a dependent 318 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: class for them. But your average run of the mill friend, neighbor, 319 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: and co worker, if they're to be honest and you 320 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: look into their heart of hearts. You know as well 321 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: as I do. Illegal aliens running amuck and breaking into 322 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: the country does not play well with anybody who's of 323 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: sound mind. Sovereignty matters, laws matter. Most Americans know that. 324 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: John Fetterman knows that. Listen to this. 325 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 8: When you reach out almost three hundred thousand people, that's 326 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 8: unsustainable and we need to you know, as a Democrat, 327 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 8: it shouldn't be unreasonable to want to secure our border. 328 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 7: And do it in that way. And now let's also 329 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 7: let's also talk about ICE. 330 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 8: Now absolutely again, what happened in Minneapolis was absolutely tragic. 331 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 8: And then now if you think, now this is from 332 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 8: the Washington Post, you know, this is the latest statistics. 333 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 8: These are people that ICE now are. 334 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 7: It's like now. 335 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 8: Sixty seven percent have criminal charges pending ones or that 336 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 8: that that so that's more than two thirds you know 337 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 8: the people. Now, Now, there are some people that aren't 338 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 8: involved in any kinds of illegal things, you know, But 339 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 8: so me, I think two things can be true. You know, 340 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 8: round up all the criminals to deport them. They shouldn't 341 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 8: have ever been here, and they definitely have to go. 342 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 8: And now I don't know, want to see more and 343 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 8: more things happening in Minneapolis now too. So the two 344 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 8: things must be true. And I strongly reject the extreme 345 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 8: on either side. You know about this now, so we 346 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 8: must be true. And you know, I watched your earlier 347 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 8: in your show, you just pointed out President of Obama 348 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 8: deported you know, millions of people. 349 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 7: And there wasn't having the same kind of outrage here. 350 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: You know. 351 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 7: Here is from from Democrats. 352 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 2: Last night about midnight. There's video out there floating around 353 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: this morning on social media of these organized protests, these 354 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: bought and paid for protesters surrounding law enforcement and ice agents, 355 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: their vehicles being rated, laptops in their vehicles being destroyed, 356 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: notebooks taken, their vests being looted. So that's Democrat John Fetterman. 357 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: And we have a choice, really, as Americans, we have 358 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: a choice as to where this is going to go. 359 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: Just like watching the bricks to the storefronts during George Floyd, 360 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: same thing. Minneapolis has become a test case not for 361 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: immigration or protest rights, but for whether this country still 362 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: believes that law enforcement is a legitimate function of government. 363 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 2: That's the question. Is law enforcement a legitimate function of government. 364 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 2: Federal raids have targeted billion dollar fraud schemes in these 365 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: child nutrition and welfare programs. These are fraud schemes that 366 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: have stolen billions of dollars from you and me the taxpayer, 367 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: to enrich criminal networks. The response by Democrats was not 368 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: to cooperate or get to the bottom of it. It 369 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: was organized chaos and obstruction, street blockades, escalating protests, and 370 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: political cover. These kamikaze leftists attempting to, as we talked 371 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: about last week, run over an ice officer in renee 372 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: Good and was fatally shot in the process. Instead of condemnation, 373 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 2: the reaction from the left was accusation and denial. They 374 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: wore pins be good, and the protests, naturally, as we've seen, 375 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: are now turning violent. We're now seeing agents assaulted. The 376 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: focus shifted not to the crimes, of course, but to 377 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: blaming those enforcing the law. And all of us need 378 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: to be very clear about this. It's never spontaneous with 379 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: the American left. This was not spontaneous. What you're watching 380 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: right now is not spontaneous or organic. It is bought, 381 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: It is paid for it is coordinated resistance to avoid accountability. 382 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: And it's all framed, of course, as compassion, with ribbons 383 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: on the lapels of famous people, be good, the human mascot. 384 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 2: The guy pretending to be Governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls 385 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: has signaled his readiness to deploy the National Guard against 386 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: federal law enforcement, as if even could. That's not governance, 387 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: of course, it's a flirtation with nullification. When enforcement is 388 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: recast as oppression and fraudsters are recast as victims, it's 389 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: a moral inversion, you see. It's like a funhouse mirror. 390 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: Fraud doesn't just steal money. It creates power. It funds 391 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: organizations and sustains political machines and distorts elections. And when 392 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: it's exposed, whether through audits, if it's exposed through prosecutions, 393 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: if it's exposed through things like DOGE, these systems don't 394 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: like reforms, they don't like the exposure, they don't like 395 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: the sunlight. 396 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 9: What do they do? 397 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: They resist, And that's what we're watching, and that's what 398 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: this is. Resistance to reform, resistance and fighting back against 399 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: the fraud that's been exposed. They're not arguing, they're not 400 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: making political arguments, they're obstructing and if necessary, as we're seeing, 401 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: they're willing to be violent. They're even willing to lay 402 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: their lives on the line and become kamikaze pilots for 403 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: the cause. I didn't think i'd ever see the day, 404 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: but that's where we are. The Left is willing to 405 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: die to avoid responsibility for their fraud and win the 406 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: political argument in the legacy media. So law enforcement now 407 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: becomes branded as fascism. You see audits of their fraud 408 00:23:54,040 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: are smeared as harassment. Accountability is how recast as cruelty. 409 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: This is how a political movement morphs into a protection structure, 410 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: one that survives only by distraction and obfuscation. Eighty plus 411 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: percent of Americans agree it's not even close. It's truly 412 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: an eighty twenty issue. I can't even imagine who the 413 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: twenty are. Fraud should be stopped, laws should be enforced. 414 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: And when a party, the Democrats shield criminals instead celebrate 415 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 2: and memorialize and eulogize the criminal, well, this just places 416 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: themselves on the wrong side of civil order. Civil societies 417 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: fall when enforcement becomes selective, When law abiding citizens lose 418 00:24:51,880 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: protection and political power shields illegality that can't work. Minneapolis 419 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: is not about just one city. It's about whether accountability 420 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: still governs this country or not, or are we now 421 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: ruled by mob intimidation amplified by legacy media, because when 422 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: enforcing the law is treated as oppressive, well, the law 423 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: no longer protects the innocent. Now we're talking about protecting 424 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: criminals with political cover. And that is when as a country, 425 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: that's a moment when as a republic, a representative republic, 426 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: we've got to decide which side we're on. And I 427 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: still believe the American public, this republic, this representative republic, 428 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: is still on the side of enforcing our laws and 429 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: that law should be evenly applied to everyone, even Renee 430 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: Goods former father in law number fifty seven. If you please, 431 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about this. 432 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 10: You know, when you talk about the confusion, and you've 433 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 10: been open obviously about your support for the president. When 434 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 10: you look at the videos of what happened, and I'm 435 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 10: sure they're very hard for you, Timmy to watch, if 436 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 10: if you've even been able to. But the Deputy Attorney 437 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 10: General says that the Justice Department doesn't believe that there's 438 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 10: evidence to back a criminal investigation, right, and. 439 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: Nothing about charges or anything. 440 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 10: That just an investigation into what happened in terms of 441 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 10: the ICE agent's actions. But they were according to the 442 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 10: prosecutors resigning today, pressuring them to investigate Rene's actions and Becka, 443 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 10: her wife's actions. 444 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: How do you feel about all that? 445 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 11: Well, you know, I'm not blaming anybody. I mean, it's 446 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 11: a hard situation all the way around. It's it's hard 447 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 11: for the you know, for everybody involved. I mean to 448 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 11: us agent. You know, at first I didn't see the 449 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 11: footage where you know, he was actually you know, he 450 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 11: was actually been ran I mean, not seeing the bump 451 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 11: of the car hitting you know, hitting his legs, and 452 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 11: so in a you know. 453 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 7: In a flag select it's hard to say how you 454 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 7: would react. 455 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 11: From my understanding that he had been through that before, 456 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 11: maybe drag or something. 457 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: And so this gentleman, this former father in law of 458 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: Renee Good, goes on to say Renee was not walking 459 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: in the spirit of God, which was not the answer 460 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: the CNN folks were looking for more than a minute. 461 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: I want to go back to miss Good's former father 462 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: in law, remember Renee Good. Also it was disclosed that 463 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: she was not in fact married. This woman with whom 464 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: she lived was not her wife. The whole thing again 465 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: a manufactured story. She used to be a wife to 466 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: a man who apparently died, with whom she had three children, 467 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: and then became some kind of crazed militant lesbian in 468 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: a later life. And for fun, they decided to start 469 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: stalking and blocking the work of ice in Minnesota. I 470 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: don't know how one takes up that hobby, but that's 471 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: what she and her galpal decided to start doing. Well, 472 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: CNN caught up with ms Good's former father in law, 473 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: that is, the father of the man who died to 474 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: whom she was once married, and I wanted to revisit 475 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: this because I thought it was a really interesting He's 476 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: not a hostile guy. He clearly doesn't dislike his former 477 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: daughter in law. He's sorry about the whole thing. He's 478 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: trying to be kind of cautious. But it's what he 479 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 2: says at the very end of this answer on CNN 480 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: that I thought was worth hearing. So give me number 481 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 2: of fifty seven again, if you would please. 482 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 11: Paul here he is, well, you know, I'm not blaming anybody. 483 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 11: I mean, it's a hard situation all the way around. 484 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 11: It's hard for the you know, for everybody involved. I 485 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 11: mean to us agent. You know, at first I didn't 486 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 11: see the footage where you know, he was actually you know, 487 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 11: he was actually being ran I mean I seeing the 488 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 11: bump of the car, you know, hitting his legs and 489 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 11: so in a you know, in a flash like that, 490 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 11: it's it's hard to say how you would react from 491 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 11: my understanding that he had been through that before, maybe 492 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 11: dragged or something, and so, you know, like I said, 493 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 11: it's just it's just a hard situation for everybody. 494 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 12: Uh. 495 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 11: You know Becca, you know it's it's she's a great 496 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 11: person as well. I mean, you know, I don't have 497 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 11: any many enemies. I love everybody, and that's what the 498 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 11: Bible tells us about our neighbors, as we love ourselves. 499 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 11: But you know, I think there's some bad choices, and 500 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 11: the words is for the rapid God would come up 501 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 11: on the chilling disobedience, and you know it's it's uh, 502 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 11: I don't blame us. 503 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 7: I don't blame Rebec. I don't blame Renee. 504 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 11: I just you know, I just wish that you know, 505 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 11: if a walking in the spirit of God, I don't 506 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 11: think she would have. 507 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: Been there, oops, and quickly they see in an anchors 508 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: pivoted away and ran away from that. If she'd been 509 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: in the spirit of God, she wouldn't have been there. 510 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 12: That's right. 511 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know too many God honoring people 512 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: that hey, hey, and hoh and royal in the street 513 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: and block law enforcement from doing their job. I just don't. 514 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: I remind you again. The organization Third Way, left wing 515 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: polster group have been warning Democrats listen to me. It 516 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: is political lethality to keep chanting abolish ice, don't do it. 517 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: Last year, NBC News reported some elected officials had resurrected 518 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: the Abolish Ice campaign and talking point third Way. This 519 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: group has implored the left to talk about ice abuse 520 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: or overreach, but be clear they still want secure borders 521 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: and legal immigration. They pointed to a focus group that 522 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: showed a window, not a wave for change, even among 523 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: Democrat primary voters, says Third Way, there is a clear 524 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: preference for a balanced approach over abolition. Even Democrats are 525 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: warning Democrats securing the border and upholding American sovereignty and 526 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: the law matters even to most Democrats. Yes, I know 527 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: it's the holidays. I know this is not a time 528 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: of year most people think about losing weight. But you know, 529 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: our executive producer Fast Eddie is doing it. 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This morning, Flags Flying Am 602 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: five seventy the answer your radio destination there in the district. 603 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: Thank you for choosing it if you're driving in listening 604 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 2: this morning, Thanks for listening on great radio stations like 605 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: it all over the country. Choosing the podcast as well. 606 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: If you don't get to catch the show live, the 607 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: Salem news channel app. There's a ton of ways to 608 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: get the show, and of course catch us on YouTube, 609 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: all the social media. Why aren't you following on X? 610 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 2: You're on X already. Why aren't you following me? Come 611 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: on at Chris Stigall C Hris S T I G 612 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: A L L. I'd love to have you on board 613 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: at Christigall dot com for everything you need. So yesterday 614 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: it looked like things were about to get pretty hot 615 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: for Iran. I mean, we know what's going on in 616 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: the streets there. We've been covering that for the last 617 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 2: couple of days. You're talking about thousands upon thousands of 618 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: protesters either jailed or murdered in the streets, and there 619 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: was a sincere belief that the president was going to 620 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 2: launch on Iran because of it. And then he came 621 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: out yesterday to say, I think the killing I've been 622 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: told the killing in Iran is done. I don't know that. 623 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: I believe that. I'm not even sure he believes that. 624 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: Does John Hayward believe it? He is the deputy national 625 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: security editor at Breitbart and our go to guy for 626 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 2: matters like these, and John, I welcome you in this morning. 627 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on a quick turnaround. Good morning, 628 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: Good morning. 629 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 8: Yeah. 630 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 4: No, I don't think the killing is done. I think 631 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 4: the question is what gear is going to shift into. 632 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 4: Maybe the Iranian regime is taking this opportunity to take 633 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 4: an off ramp from the most brutal repression. Maybe they 634 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 4: think they don't have to stack up another ten thousand bodies, 635 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 4: that they've made their point and that the demonstrations will 636 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 4: lose energy from now on. And there is one particular protester. 637 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 4: His name is Urfin Sultani, and he had a young 638 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 4: man twenties. He'd been arrested. They were going to execute him, 639 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: and they suddenly said yesterday, oh no, we're not going 640 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 4: to execute him. Why did you ever think we were 641 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 4: so At the very least that guy is not getting executed. 642 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 4: That could be the signal that was sent to Trump 643 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 4: to stay his hand that they were going to back 644 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 4: down from the worst of the bloodshed. 645 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 2: Brett Behar had Iranian leadership on his show last night, 646 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: and I saw the clip where he was basically saying, 647 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: and it was amazing to me that Brett was able 648 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: to keep a straight face. You know that we've always 649 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: been negotiating goodwill, that we were always willing to come 650 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: to the table. I mean, these guys continually, perpetually publicly 651 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: portrayed themselves as the victim. They also love to pretend 652 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: apparently they're still publicly taking the position that Trump's aerial 653 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: assault on their nuclear facility was no big deal and 654 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 2: didn't hurt us at all. What is reality as you 655 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: understand it, and you're reporting about what the state of 656 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: Iranian leadership finds itself in today. 657 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 4: Although their strikes were a big deal, very much so. 658 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 4: I mean they always do that. They always claim they 659 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 4: won every conflict and nothing hurts them and they're invincible, 660 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 4: and they have to do that. I think the Iranian 661 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 4: leadership is keenly aware that one of the reasons this 662 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 4: uprising is so huge and spiraled so quickly to its 663 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 4: current dimensions is because they looked weak. They had a 664 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 4: horrible year. They got their butts kicked by everybody from 665 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 4: the US to Israel. All of their foreign holdings fell apart, 666 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 4: all that money that they plowed into terrorism across the 667 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 4: Middle East, in Lebanon, in Israel and Gaza, all that 668 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 4: is gone, just wiped away like dust. And that's one 669 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 4: of the reasons the Iranian people rose up because the 670 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 4: regime looked weak, and they keenly understand that they have 671 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 4: to project an image of invincible strength if they're going 672 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 4: to rally their own supporters, which they're doing in a 673 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 4: big way right now. They're filling the streets with pro 674 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 4: regime demonstrations and they staged one in India. There was 675 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 4: a demonstration in India yesterday in favor of the Iranian 676 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 4: regime by Muslims who are living there. So I mean 677 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 4: they're trying to reassert their strength and show that they're 678 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 4: still in control. And you can't do that if you 679 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 4: also go on TV and say, oh, yeah, Trump blew 680 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 4: up our nuclear program and we just cried like babies. 681 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: The technology element to this story is a fascinating one 682 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 2: to me too. The regime is trying desperately to repress 683 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 2: any kind of external communication from coming in or any 684 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: kind of imagery from getting out. As I understand it, 685 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: Starlink Elon Musk's Starlink is creating connections where internet service 686 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: has been cut in the country. It's getting harder for 687 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: brutal regimes to keep their people quiet and from either 688 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 2: being exposed to information from the outside or sharing information 689 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: from the inside. Out. 690 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 4: It's harder, but it's still not impossible for them to 691 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 4: do it. The Uranians figured out how to jam starlink. 692 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 4: You do it by jamming GPS because starlink needs GPS 693 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 4: data to target satellites, so they JAMGPS across the country 694 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 4: with military equipment, and that costed starlink to fail in 695 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 4: a lot of places. And even though some Iranians are 696 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 4: getting the word out and we're seeing these horrific pictures 697 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 4: of hundreds thousands of corpses being stacked up in body bags, 698 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 4: it's not enough information necessarily to really guarantee success. At 699 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 4: this point, we're looking at ten to twenty thousand maybe 700 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 4: Iranians who have been murdered by the regime to hold 701 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: power in the Middle East, in Africa. Ten to twenty 702 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 4: thousand dead in places like that is the opening stages 703 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 4: of a negotiation. So the regime is by no means 704 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 4: on its last legs from anything that we can see 705 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 4: right now. They're threatened, they're clearly threatened, and this could 706 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 4: still go against them. But you know, you can kill 707 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 4: your way out of a challenge like this, and you 708 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 4: can silence your people, and you can cut off the internet. 709 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 4: Iran is proving all of those things. They're by no 710 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 4: means the most technologically sophisticated tyranny in the world, but 711 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 4: they still manage to kill the Internet for most of 712 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 4: their population almost overnight. 713 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 2: It is obviously from the United States point of view, 714 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: our official government position is the Iranian regime no longer 715 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: prevailing and presiding over its population is a good thing 716 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 2: for the United States. The question is do we let 717 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: the folks inside Iran handle this on their own or 718 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 2: will they ultimately need our backing? And I know nor 719 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: am I cheering for it, to be clear, but I 720 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: understand there is a little appetite for our involvement and 721 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: things like this, and I have read people worried that 722 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 2: President Trump is being goaded into it. What is the role, 723 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 2: what is the responsibility to Iran the citizens there, if 724 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 2: at all? What is our ultimate desire the outcome? How 725 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: do you see our role in this if any. 726 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 4: Well, there's not much appetite for boots on the ground. 727 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 4: That much is obvious. And I don't think President Trump 728 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 4: would make that mistake and try a nation building crusade again, 729 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 4: because that doesn't work. I think help of the type 730 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 4: he gave to Syria to the new government in Syria 731 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 4: would be what we'd be thinking of, political support, economic support, 732 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 4: some sweeteners, some teasers. Do this in that, and we'll 733 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 4: lift sanctions and you'll have money in your pockets. I mean, 734 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 4: there's a lot we could do to help a new, 735 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 4: better government that takes over and Iran. The problem is 736 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 4: who would that be. One of the biggest problems that 737 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 4: has always faced the Iranian opposition is that they're very fragmented. 738 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 4: Parts of the Iranian opposition hate each other. You will 739 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 4: talk to Iranians that will tell you the Shah Reza Palavi, 740 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 4: the Shah's son, the crown Prince, he's the greatest guy 741 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 4: in the world, he's ready to walk in and take 742 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 4: over minute one. And then ten minutes later you'll talk 743 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 4: to Iranians that will tell you that guy's crap, he's 744 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 4: a charlatan, don't trust him, will never follow him. So, 745 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 4: I mean, their resistance is not united. They don't have 746 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 4: a government in waiting, and the Ranian regime goes to 747 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 4: great lengths to make that the case, to make sure 748 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 4: there is no united resistance so that nobody can plausibly 749 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 4: say we're ready to walk in and take over on 750 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 4: minute one, who. 751 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 2: Do you believe most of the Iranian population to be? 752 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 2: Are they moderate Muslims? Are they fanatics? What I've been 753 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 2: told over and over that they're moderates. They want commerce 754 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 2: and they want open trade and all of these things. 755 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: What do you understand it to be? These people that 756 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: are waiting for a new leadership. 757 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 4: A lot of them are moderates, a lot of them 758 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 4: are fanatics. I think it's a coin toss which one 759 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 4: could claim to be the outright majority. I think, like 760 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 4: a lot of places, they have what you would call 761 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 4: like a left and a right in a middle. You know, 762 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 4: they have people in different walks of life. So a 763 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 4: lot of Iranians do want a better world. They don't 764 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 4: like the Molas, they don't like the theocracy. Those people 765 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 4: are a significant number, but I don't know if you 766 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 4: could say that they're the majority. The regime has a 767 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 4: lot of supporters, the Islamic Revolutionary Guardcore, the theocratic end 768 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 4: of the regime, which is in charge of oppressing the 769 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 4: people inside the borders. They said they've gotten something like 770 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 4: four hundred thousand tips from Iranians turning in protesters, agitators 771 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 4: and demonstrators. So I mean if that's true, and they 772 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 4: lie all the times. Who knows, But if that's true, 773 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 4: that tells you there is a sizable amount of support 774 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 4: for the regime and all of its hideous ugliness, for 775 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 4: the extremism, for the Sharia law, for the supported terrorism. 776 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 4: There are a lot of Varanians who are one hundred 777 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 4: percent behind that, and then there are a lot of 778 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 4: them that want to live a better life. And this 779 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 4: is a contest of will between those two sides to 780 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 4: see who will take over Iran. 781 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: My sister in law text last night and she said, 782 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 2: who do I watch? Who can I trust for accurate, 783 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: honest reporting about what's coming out of Iran? And I said, well, 784 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 2: outside of reading what my brilliant friend John Hayward writes, 785 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure who would you lean into and 786 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: watch right now? What can we trust about the information 787 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 2: we're getting coming out of that place? 788 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 4: Iran is a terrible information environment. It's a big country, 789 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 4: a lot of it is very sparsely populated. The regime 790 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 4: controls communications. It's really hard to get accurate reporting our 791 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 4: data out of there. If somebody gets past the blockade 792 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 4: and they call CNN, let's say, and they start telling 793 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 4: them what's really going on? Who is that person? Do 794 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,959 Speaker 4: we believe them? What are their credentials? Are they really 795 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 4: making any of this sup or not? We don't know. 796 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's really hard to get reliable information out 797 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 4: of a place like this, which is kind of a 798 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 4: pity in this year or of the information age, but 799 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 4: it's still true. Places like Iran, China is like this, 800 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 4: a lot of Africa is like this, Sudan. I mean, 801 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 4: these places are information backwaters, and getting reliable data of 802 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 4: any kind all the way up to eye with his 803 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 4: testimony very very hard to do. So I think your 804 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 4: best bet is to look for places that are talking 805 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 4: to as many sources as they can, that are using 806 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 4: things like satellite data that's external and reliable, and you 807 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 4: go with that. I mean, there's really nobody that has 808 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 4: one hundred percent straight story. I would say it's possible 809 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 4: the Iatola and his people don't one hundred percent really 810 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 4: know what's happening in every part of Iran. 811 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: Right now, Johnny, I hold you over for one more 812 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: segment and if you have time, sure, Okay, I appreciate that, 813 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 2: because I want to pick your brain on Venezuela as well. 814 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 2: But with about ten seconds. Aerial assaults on Iran more coming, 815 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 2: do you think or no. 816 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 4: I think it's possible, but I don't know who you strike. 817 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 4: I don't think you take out the iatola with a 818 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 4: precision strike. I don't think that would get the job done. 819 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 4: I don't know what you hit. So I think that's 820 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 4: one of the reasons Trump hasn't done it. They don't 821 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 4: have a clear target. 822 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 2: More than a minute, we're back with John Hayward, national 823 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,919 Speaker 2: Security deputy editor at Bright Bart. He's doctor Underscore zero 824 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 2: on X doctor underscore zero and the O in zero 825 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: is the digit zero. All right, John, thanks for sticking 826 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 2: with us through the break, because the other thing I 827 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about was Venezuela. Much like Iran, 828 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 2: the question always is when leadership is taken out, who 829 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 2: fills that vacuum? And I think there's a great debate 830 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 2: still about what we know about Venezuela who will lead 831 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 2: it going forward. There's a race right now to get 832 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 2: venezuelan oil sold New State Department. Well, sorry, I'm going 833 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 2: to get the I had this story in front of 834 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 2: me and now I lost it. They are selling Venezuelan 835 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 2: oil is the point. Fast They've got American interests in 836 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 2: there that are pumping it, and they're going to start 837 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 2: trying to sell it. So the whole dynamic, I guess, 838 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: is basically what I'm asking, what have we set up 839 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 2: there in Venezuela. 840 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 4: Well, Venezuela wasn't really a regime change operation. We took 841 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 4: out the leader, Nicholas Maduro, who was virulently anti American 842 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 4: and a narco terrorist, an actual enemy of the United States, 843 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 4: but his regime and government is basically still there, just 844 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 4: without him. His old vice president took over and the hope, 845 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 4: and what we're seeing so far supports this is that 846 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 4: the new regime, the new leaders are a little bit cowed, 847 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 4: a little bit frightened of what happened to Maduro, willing 848 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 4: to deal with the United States. We're laying down the 849 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 4: lot of them. We're saying, you'll do this, this and this, 850 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 4: and so far they're doing everything that Trump has demanded 851 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 4: of them. That could stop, you know, they might stop cooperating, 852 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 4: but for right now, the people that are left behind 853 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 4: are playing ball, which is kind of what you would 854 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 4: expect when you're dealing with an organized crime gang. The 855 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 4: socialist government of Venezuela is legendarily incompetent at doing anything 856 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 4: in terms of actually governing. They're just a bunch of 857 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 4: narco terrorist thieves that stuffed the national treasure in their pockets. 858 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 4: Nicholas Maduro and his family don't know how to do 859 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 4: anything except spend the money that they steal from the 860 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 4: Venezuelan people, and that now that he is gone, the 861 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 4: regime that's left over is frightened and confused. I don't 862 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 4: think he would get quite that response in Iran if 863 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 4: he did the same thing and captured the Iatola or 864 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 4: took him out. They have a little bit more of 865 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 4: a robust structure of their tyranny and they would put 866 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 4: a new iotolin placed pretty fast. But for Venezuela, the 867 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 4: thing about Maduro is nobody really needed it. He's an 868 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 4: incompetent knitwick who was doing nothing but stiphon off their 869 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 4: money like a bloated tick, and the people that are 870 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 4: left behind are kind of glad to see him go. 871 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, what about this Greenland situation. You have the Foreign 872 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 2: Minister of Denmark saying yesterday we want to find a 873 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 2: common way forward. That's changed dramatically from thumping the chest 874 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 2: saying never never, never over our dead bodies. Smashing Gorka 875 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 2: told us last week, the President is deadly serious about Greenland. 876 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 2: The President continues to say, we're going to have our 877 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 2: way with Greenland. What's real here? What do you believe? 878 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 2: What's the outcome? 879 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 4: Well, Trump has a good point. I mean, people do 880 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 4: not see the point he's making so much because he's 881 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 4: so blustery about the way that he says it. And 882 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 4: he keeps doing things like saying, yeah, we'll use force 883 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 4: if we have to, and some people say, you know, 884 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 4: that's an outrage, and others say, why the heck are 885 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 4: you using force to take Greenland? He's right, Greenland is 886 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,240 Speaker 4: strategically significant. It is a very important piece of territory. 887 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 4: It has a lot of resources that have not been 888 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 4: exploited yet, and if somebody like Russia or China gets 889 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 4: control of the country, either by force or by buying 890 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 4: their way into it, they will exploit those resources to 891 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 4: our detriment. So there's a lot of reasons why we 892 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 4: should be in charge of Greenland. And Trump is absolutely 893 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 4: correct that the Danes cannot protect it. The Danish government 894 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 4: does not have the wherewithal to defend Greenland from either 895 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 4: a military assault by somebody like Russia or from China 896 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 4: just walking in and buying the place up. The Chinese 897 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 4: have already tried, and the Danes did shoot down one 898 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 4: attempt for them to do it. They cannot protect it 899 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 4: the way it needs to be protected. Trump is correct 900 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 4: about that, and one way or the other, I think 901 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 4: he's right. We are going to end up with some 902 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 4: degree of authority over Greenland. It's just a question of time. 903 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 2: John Hayward, he is writing about all matters national security 904 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 2: at Breitbart. Read every word he writes. Yeah, trying to 905 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 2: combine up buy up our farmland. They can certainly buy 906 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 2: up Greenland. Thank you, John. We'll stay in touch certainly 907 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 2: as the show rolls on. Okay, the situation with Ice 908 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: in Minneapolis continues. This shree fanned are fan the r 909 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 2: I don't have to say him, this guy. If you 910 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 2: told me he was Ai generated, i'd believe you. I'm 911 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 2: not sure what how do you describe this guy? And 912 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 2: I've tried a couple of times. I don't even know 913 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: what he is. He's the hair, He's a curious looking fella. 914 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 3: To put it mildly, Yes, he's He's Indian. He definitely 915 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 3: well at least. We think he has a hair piece 916 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 3: and we want to do impeach Trump, and the Democrat 917 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 3: Party said no and slapped him down. 918 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 2: So now he's back. I have no idea why this 919 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: guy does media, no idea. He's uh Now, remember what 920 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 2: I told you the Third Way people. NBC News reported 921 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 2: the Third Way, the left wing polster group Third Way 922 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,919 Speaker 2: told Democrats, don't go out there and talk about abolishing Ice. 923 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 2: Don't do it. The American public doesn't like this, right, 924 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 2: even the Democrats were worn. Don't say that. Well, here 925 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:17,240 Speaker 2: comes hairpiece number fifty nine. We must reform ice. 926 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 13: But it looks at this stage, folks, ice is beyond reform. 927 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,280 Speaker 2: Ice is totally out of control. 928 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 13: And this week I intend to introduce a bill to 929 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 13: abolish ice. We need to make ice go away two 930 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 13: thousand and three. Before two thousand and three, without Ice, 931 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 13: various federal agencies were able to take care of business. 932 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 13: And we can do this without Ice. But we do 933 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 13: not need the murderers. We do not need this paramilitary organizations. 934 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,240 Speaker 13: Members on our street. 935 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, those of you listening and can't see it. The 936 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 2: best I can do is describe him as maybe like 937 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 2: a poor man's Johnny Mathis. I don't know, like a 938 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,760 Speaker 2: Johnny Mathis stunt double. He's like an unfortunate looking Johnny Mathis. 939 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 2: That's the best I got, if you don't know what 940 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 2: he looks like. 941 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 3: Ed and now coming out abolishing Ice, Like how many 942 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 3: talking points Democrats? Talking points that Democrats pay a lot 943 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 3: of money for? 944 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 2: Is he just going to come out against I don't know. 945 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 2: Chuck Flint is a former prosecutor. He's now the CEO 946 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 2: of the Alliance for IRS Accountability. You know, accountability is 947 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 2: one of those things that's been a theme on this show. 948 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 2: Mister Flint, welcome back to the show. The fraud in Minnesota, 949 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 2: the taxpayer fraud is rampant, it's bad. And I would 950 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 2: submit to you that all of this, the theatric's over Ice, 951 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 2: the protests, all of it bought and paid for to 952 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 2: get away from that central theme of accountability that is 953 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 2: deeply necessary here. You got the Treasury looking at it, 954 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 2: you get the President focused on it, Congress should be 955 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 2: focused on it. That's what this is about, really, isn't it? 956 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 2: Rampant fraud and the hope that the American public will 957 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 2: look over there and not pay attention to the fraud. 958 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good. 959 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 4: Morning, and it's great to be with you. I agree 960 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 4: with you, it is. 961 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 2: It's a distraction. 962 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 14: They're trying to throw a red herring out there and 963 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 14: focus more on ice, which is a big problem, you know, 964 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 14: in that community because of the way that they've handled policing. 965 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 14: I'm talking about the Minnesota officials. But with regard to 966 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 14: the fraud it's in Minnesota. I would say it's ground zero. 967 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 14: There's about nine billion of it that we know of 968 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 14: related to social services programs. But a really important point 969 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 14: last week's Secretary Besson announced an IRS task force. 970 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 7: It's going to go ahead and. 971 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 14: Look at fraud related to pandemic air incentives and also 972 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 14: nonprofits that are engaged in fraud, which has been a 973 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 14: huge problem over there. Just a couple of days ago, 974 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 14: Secretary Besson said that approximately ten percent of the federal 975 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 14: budget is lost every year to fraud. That's five hundred 976 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 14: billion dollars a year. That's ten cents for every dollar. 977 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 14: Think about what that means to American families right now. 978 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 14: We're not going through an affordability crisis. We have a 979 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 14: fraud crisis. 980 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 2: And this is just one state, mister Flint. I mean, 981 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 2: it's difficult to get your mind wrapped around the fact 982 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 2: that if you're talking about nine billion in one state, 983 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 2: how much worse is it in places like California. 984 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 14: That's right, it is just one state, and you're seeing 985 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 14: that it's Minnesota is ground zero, but that it's in 986 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 14: other states as well. It's obviously in California, it's a 987 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 14: very big number, and there's going to be a lot 988 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 14: of investigating that happens, and I think you're going to 989 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 14: see more task force that it will. 990 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 4: Be stood up in other states to look at this. 991 00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 2: The resignation of several prosecuts, including a Trump appointee. I 992 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 2: kind of talked about this yesterday with Representative Emmer. He 993 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 2: said he didn't really have all the details on it 994 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 2: and he wanted to know more. But what we found 995 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 2: out from Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, last night, is 996 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 2: these five or six individuals that resigned in the federal 997 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 2: Prosecutor's office. I guess they went to her and said, well, 998 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 2: we want out, we don't like this, but we'd like 999 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 2: to take I don't know whatever they have paid leave 1000 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 2: or whatever vacation time. She fired them on the spot. 1001 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 2: Is her claim last night, do you have any insights 1002 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 2: into the resignation of these federal prosecutors. 1003 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 14: I've read multiple reports sun saying that perhaps they disagreed 1004 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 14: with the review of the ice shooting from last week, 1005 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 14: but some also saying that they agreed that it was 1006 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 14: done lawfully. I would say this about the shooting from 1007 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 14: last week. People have been dissecting that for days. It 1008 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 14: happened in a split second. The officer was hit with 1009 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 14: a vehicle, which is a lethal weapon, and he had 1010 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 14: a split second to react. And the woman that hit 1011 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 14: him with a vehicle, the one that was shot. She 1012 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 14: was not just an innocent bystander. She was just not 1013 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 14: on her way home the way that Doc Rivers, the 1014 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 14: coach of the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks, said. She was a 1015 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 14: left wing foot soldier who worked for Minnesota Ice Watch. 1016 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 7: She was a part of their war on ice. She 1017 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 7: had been obstructing ice operations. 1018 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 14: Earlier in the day. She on the video she refused 1019 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,800 Speaker 14: to comply with two orders to get out of the vehicle. 1020 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 14: So she was there to not do anything other than 1021 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 14: obstruct and not comply. And as far as the incident 1022 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,280 Speaker 14: last night goes, this is why you have to honor 1023 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 14: ice detainers and this is why sanctuary cities are so dangerous, 1024 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 14: because arresting individuals in the street is not easy, and 1025 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 14: right now the nation is seeing just what a dangerous 1026 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 14: job police officers have. The thin blue line is not 1027 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 14: a saying okay, It is something that separates law abiding 1028 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 14: citizens for absolute anarchy, and you're seeing just how thin 1029 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 14: that line is right now. 1030 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 2: I have not seen, and again I continue to look for. 1031 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 2: I have not seen any meaningful public polling on this subject, 1032 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 2: and I suspect if we did, as I intimated off 1033 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 2: the top, even Democrats are warning their own don't go 1034 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 2: out there and talking about abolishing ICE. The American public, 1035 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 2: even those who vote Democrat. I still believe that's true. 1036 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: Maybe not the actual office holding Democrats, but those who 1037 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 2: vote Democrat for whatever confused reason, I still believe most 1038 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 2: of them believe in laws. I still believe most of 1039 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 2: them believe in American sovereignty because they love to say 1040 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 2: how were their Americans? And they don't have to listen 1041 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 2: to Ice ironically, which I think is always so funny. 1042 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 2: But my point is I don't think there's a lot 1043 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 2: of approval for illegal aliens. I think it's pretty obvious 1044 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 2: by President Trump winning on the issue twice. I think 1045 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 2: people like secure borders. I think they support the enforcement 1046 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 2: of immigration laws, and so I don't know how this ends, 1047 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 2: but I do know that the American left is actually 1048 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 2: afraid of this subject. For as loud as they're being 1049 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 2: right now politically, I don't think they believe this is 1050 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 2: a winner. 1051 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 14: Well, they might not, but they own the issue. This 1052 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 14: is their language, and they started this. They unleash this 1053 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 14: Pandora's box years ago with the abolish ice, defund the 1054 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 14: police rhetoric that they've been using. They've been using it 1055 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 14: for years, and now is any surprise that this is 1056 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 14: what we're seeing in the streets, people who will not 1057 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 14: just It's not that they're not only failing to comply 1058 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 14: with law enforcement. It is that they're actually interfering with 1059 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 14: law enforcement investigations. They feel emboldened to go ahead and 1060 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 14: do this and that there will be no consequences. It's 1061 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 14: as if they believe that they are entitled to behave 1062 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 14: this way because they hold some type of morally superior 1063 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 14: position in what is going on in society. But you 1064 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 14: must obey officers. And this is something that the Democrats 1065 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 14: set in motion a long time ago. 1066 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 2: I honestly believe they're goading one another into potentially losing 1067 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 2: their lives. I called them the Kamikazi left. I think 1068 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 2: they are now so committed to this political cover that 1069 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 2: they're willing to endanger their own lives to do so. 1070 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 2: To your point, and the media, of course, all too 1071 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 2: willing to make this sound like the ice officers are 1072 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 2: just indiscriminately shooting people. It's always man, person, woman. They 1073 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 2: never say it's an illegal alien that they're pursuing when 1074 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 2: others come and start beating them with shovels and broomsticks. 1075 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 2: They always leave that part out. The ice officers always 1076 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 2: just usemite sam and discriminately shooting at people. It's so dishonest. 1077 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 2: The media is to blame, of course, Chris. It's completely dishonest. 1078 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,919 Speaker 2: And you go back to the first shooting last week. 1079 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 2: It was being dissected for days. They were breaking down 1080 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 2: the frames and looking. 1081 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 14: At it for you know, so much time. This officer 1082 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 14: had a split second to react. And most of these 1083 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 14: people that are commenting about it, they've never worked in 1084 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 14: law enforcement, they've never been in the criminal justice system. 1085 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 14: They don't know how dangerous it is for these officers 1086 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 14: on the street and when they have a split second 1087 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 14: to react to lethal force being used against them. I mean, 1088 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 14: she put him in that position and she is not 1089 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 14: with us because she used terrible judgment. 1090 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 2: Chuck Flint, former prosecutor CEO of the Alliance for IRS Accountability. 1091 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 2: You can follow him on x at Chuck A. Flint 1092 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 2: and IRS Accountability dot Org. Chuck. Great to catch up 1093 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 2: with you, sir. Thanks for your time this morning. Thank 1094 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,919 Speaker 2: you so much. Still to come on the Stagall Show, 1095 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 2: we will check in with the current Senator and maybe 1096 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 2: probably future Governor of the Great State of Tennessee, Marsha 1097 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 2: Blackburn will join us on The Stagall Show. Sit Tight, 1098 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 2: Beautiful Look at San Diego this morning on eleven seventy am. 1099 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 2: The answer there. Thank you for listening, Thanks for choosing 1100 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 2: this show, however you get to it every day. 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That's it and you can beat it anyway. 1126 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 2: That's at Apple Podcasts, Spotify specifically, if you have the 1127 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 2: time and you're inclined, subscribe and rate it if you could, please, 1128 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 2: it helps us a lot, you know, in France. Back 1129 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen, I took a trip there with some listeners. 1130 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 2: It was one of my favorite trips of all time 1131 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 2: because not so much to Paris, but after we you know, 1132 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 2: I was fine. I was glad to see Paris and everything. 1133 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 2: It was pre the Notre Dame fire and that whole deal, 1134 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 2: which was neat, but it was when we got out 1135 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 2: into rural France, and of course we went to Normandy 1136 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 2: and we saw the American military cemeteries. It was just tremendous. 1137 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 2: We went out there on the anniversary of D Day, 1138 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 2: and I recommend that to anybody if you get the 1139 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 2: chance to do it. But the one thing that I 1140 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 2: I will never forget about that trip. While we were 1141 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 2: in Paris, I was watching I think it was the 1142 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 2: BBC because it was the only language that I could understand, 1143 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 2: monitoring the news, and they were talking about Paris very 1144 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 2: specifically implementing at that time stickers for drivers in the 1145 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 2: city of Paris color coded stickers, and the color coded 1146 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 2: stickers determined what days you could drive and not pay 1147 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 2: a penalty like a fee or get a ticket or something. 1148 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 2: So the most eco friendly cars got a certain color sticker, 1149 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 2: and if you were one of those dirty trucks, you 1150 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 2: got a like a blacksticker or something, and you could 1151 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 2: only drive if you had a blacksticker displayed on certain 1152 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 2: days of the week. They were trying to limit pollution. Really, 1153 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 2: what they were trying to do is limit your freedom 1154 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 2: of movement. And I always said, I've been saying for 1155 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 2: years on the show. Have I not ed there's going 1156 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 2: to come a time because Democrats in this country love Europeans. 1157 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 2: They just love Europeans, and they want to do everything 1158 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 2: like the Europeans. Have you ever heard me warn this 1159 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 2: before that they were going to glom onto that idea eventually? 1160 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 2: I have Chris Yes, sir, from the Washington Times. Democrat 1161 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 2: run states want to monitor automobile mileage to reduce car 1162 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 2: use and raise revenue. States are advancing plans to monitor 1163 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 2: your mileage and even limit how much you drive. Soon, 1164 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 2: blue state governments could begin tracking your odometer and a 1165 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 2: bid to lower tailpipe emissions, reduce traffic, and raise revenue. 1166 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 2: Massachusetts lawmakers weighing a bill that seeks to move the 1167 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 2: state closer to a net zero carbon emission mandate by 1168 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 2: expanding public transit and coming up with a plan to 1169 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 2: cut back on car trips. 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And by three times a week newsletter. 1218 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 2: The Harump Society, I think right now, particularly at this 1219 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 2: time in history, it is a must stop, and I 1220 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 2: really thank everybody who has become a harum for that's 1221 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 2: growing by leaps and bounds too. The conversation there is great. John, 1222 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 2: one of the harumfers, wrote a really sharp observation that 1223 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 2: I actually addressed yesterday. He said, you know, Chris, with 1224 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 2: the closing of USAID and all the structural changes at 1225 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 2: the State Department, we're now starting to see tyrants falling 1226 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 2: right and left, seemingly kind of dependent, not warriors, but 1227 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 2: they're like dependents. What's going on there? I thought, it 1228 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 2: was really really perceptive. In fact, Axios has written a 1229 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 2: story here. Today, the Trump administration is launching an unprecedented 1230 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 2: eleven billion dollar soft power effort to remake foreign health 1231 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 2: assistance after its controversial decision to gut USAID controversial not 1232 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 2: to taxpayers. Called the America First Global Health Strategy, the 1233 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 2: program aims to boost US influence and interests in developing nations, 1234 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,360 Speaker 2: especially in Africa, while bypassing these NGOs, that is, non 1235 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 2: governmental organization that delivered services through Usaid. The program would 1236 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 2: send billions of dollars directly to needy foreign governments, healthcare organizations, 1237 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 2: and drug manufacturers over the next five years. So far, 1238 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 2: Secretary Rubio has signed fifteen agreements with African countries aimed 1239 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 2: at improving their health systems, with an emphasis on HIV, AIDS, malaria, TB, 1240 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 2: and others. The US has committed eleven billion dollars over 1241 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 2: five years to these countries and have pledged twelve billion 1242 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 2: in matching funds and promised to meet performance goals. The 1243 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 2: initiative is the administration's answer to critics who accused Trump 1244 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 2: of deadly, dangerous and self defeating isolationism. So, of course 1245 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 2: he is not but he's going to dictate the terms. 1246 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,559 Speaker 2: It's perceptive. The Trump administration is going after fraud wherever 1247 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 2: it's found. Usaid was a hot bed of it, Minnesota 1248 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 2: appears to be a hot bed of it. And I 1249 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,880 Speaker 2: think we're just getting started, which again is why we're 1250 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 2: seeing all of the duplicitous lies and thuggery, and you know, 1251 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 2: the shows of protests out in the streets over Minnesota 1252 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,679 Speaker 2: woman and Minnesota man being shot by the mean Ice agents. 1253 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 2: It's all deflection. I think we're really on the verge 1254 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,720 Speaker 2: of some real progress here actually, and we may not 1255 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,400 Speaker 2: fully understand why it's happening. I mean, if fraud, waste, 1256 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 2: and shadowy payments to unaccountable NGOs are truly being cut off, 1257 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 2: the effects could be a far bigger deal than any 1258 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 2: any of us expect. Quite frankly, I mean, we're talking 1259 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 2: about entire political, activist even military ecosystems built around US 1260 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:23,880 Speaker 2: funding taxpayer funding, and then when that money disappears, plans 1261 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 2: fall apart, and not because they were defeated, they just 1262 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 2: can't be financed anymore. So, to be clear, the problem 1263 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 2: is not humanitarian aid itself, food relief, disaster response, emergency 1264 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 2: medicine and saves lives. It should continue, and the Trump administration, 1265 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,640 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, they clearly think it should continue. They're just 1266 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 2: going to handle it directly. The problem is, of course, 1267 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:52,560 Speaker 2: that phony aid infrastructure. It is a sprawling, opaque financial 1268 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,639 Speaker 2: system that roots taxpayer dollars through layers of these non 1269 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 2: governmental organizations with almost no oversight, totally vague mandates, little 1270 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 2: to zero accountability for outcomes, and then enter DOGE, the 1271 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 2: Department of Government Accountability. Now we can see, we can 1272 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:20,640 Speaker 2: see this system is a labyrinth of lies, deceit, and 1273 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 2: money laundering. For decades, the United States foreign policy has 1274 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 2: relied on this soft power apparatus centered on USAID and 1275 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:35,760 Speaker 2: all these NGOs. In theory, it promotes development and stability. 1276 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 2: In practice, though the evidence has demonstrated its often sustained 1277 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:46,839 Speaker 2: corrupt regimes. It's done nothing but enrich mostly Democrat connected elites. 1278 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,680 Speaker 2: It has totally distorted domestic politics abroad and indirectly or 1279 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 2: otherwise its benefited hostile actors and Inspector General Report and 1280 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,800 Speaker 2: congressional reviews have documented aid flowing into environments controlled by 1281 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 2: or penetrated by terrorist groups, militias, crooks, including Somalia, Afghanistan, Yemen, Gaza, Lebanon, 1282 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,720 Speaker 2: parts of Iraq and Syria, even when funds are not 1283 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 2: intended for extremists. When you have weak oversight and non 1284 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 2: governmental organization passed throughs well, it makes diversion routine forensic analysis. 1285 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 2: People like Data Republican on X. If you don't follow her, 1286 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 2: she's brilliant. They argue that this system functions as a loophole. 1287 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,719 Speaker 2: Mike Ben's has been chronicling this too on X, allowing 1288 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 2: activities that would be illegal if done directly. These systems 1289 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 2: persist because the incentives have been upside down. NGOs are 1290 01:11:52,400 --> 01:12:00,679 Speaker 2: rewarded for spending volume, not success. Bureaucracies grow by expanding budgets, 1291 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 2: not by ending dependents. I can give you an example 1292 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,680 Speaker 2: of this in my own existence. I remember working for 1293 01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,040 Speaker 2: an Office of Congress and it was the first time 1294 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 2: that I had ever heard that inside Congress leadership was saying, 1295 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 2: we're allot of this budget for the course of a 1296 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,640 Speaker 2: year and we haven't spent it all. Hurry up and 1297 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 2: spend it all, or we won't get more budget next year. 1298 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,720 Speaker 2: If they think we don't need it, we're not going 1299 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 2: to get an increase. So hurry up and spend it all. 1300 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 2: That's the way government has always operated, never mind NGOs. 1301 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:40,599 Speaker 2: Politicians gain moral cover from the humanitarian branding. Contractors rotate 1302 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 2: between non governmental organizations and state department roles and intelligence 1303 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 2: adjacent work. No one is ever rewarded to turn the 1304 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 2: spickett off. It's not just foreign I mean when we 1305 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 2: look at Minneapolis and the Feeding our Future scandal, that 1306 01:12:56,120 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 2: showed how this NGO style fraud operates domestically too. Hundreds 1307 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 2: of millions of stolen, laundered dollars through shell organizations sent overseas, 1308 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:12,679 Speaker 2: and whistleblowers totally ignored. Enforcement almost non existent installed out. 1309 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:18,360 Speaker 2: It wasn't an anomaly, it was a window. Early indicators 1310 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 2: suggest how dependent these networks were on US money. Sudden 1311 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,400 Speaker 2: NGO shutdowns, executive resignations, mass layoffs. Have you noticed it, 1312 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 2: programs collapsing across multiple regions. You see when the funding 1313 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:40,160 Speaker 2: dries up, coordination collapses. We're watching these coordinated efforts throw 1314 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 2: tantrums in an organized way in the streets of Minneapolis. 1315 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:50,559 Speaker 2: Right now. Activism starts to lose its logistics, militancy loses 1316 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 2: its cash, influence campaigns lose their reach. What looks like 1317 01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:05,560 Speaker 2: sudden change is really just reality returning once the subsidizing disappears. 1318 01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 2: If the funding truly dries up, the consequences could be dramatic. 1319 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 2: Fragile governments may collapse once these subsidies vanish. Terror linked 1320 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 2: groups may lose revenue. Activist networks may go quiet, Migration 1321 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 2: pressures could shift. Progress might appear mysterious because the public 1322 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:31,920 Speaker 2: rarely sees the financial plumbing underneath all these global politics. Yes, 1323 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,480 Speaker 2: there's going to be short term instability, but the alternative 1324 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 2: is endless dependency, a leaner model focused on emergency, true 1325 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:49,520 Speaker 2: emergency relief, hard auditing, bilateral diplomacy and trade rather than subsidies. 1326 01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 2: It all forces transparency and self reliance and honest engagement. Hureum, 1327 01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 2: for John's instinct, is a sound point of view. When 1328 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,840 Speaker 2: tyrants fall quietly, it's often not defeat in battle, but 1329 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 2: the sudden absence of the money that kept them upright, 1330 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 2: Because once that spickett closes, reality returns, and I think 1331 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 2: that's what we're watching, that's what we're seeing in the 1332 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,160 Speaker 2: streets of Minneapolis, that's what we're seeing in so many 1333 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,000 Speaker 2: of these government agencies. The hissing, the writhing the shrieking 1334 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 2: reality is returning, Transparency is returning, and they hate it. 1335 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 2: These undercover videos of this kid going door to door 1336 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 2: with nothing but a camera and asking these people, hey, 1337 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 2: this business is registered as an XYZ and you seem 1338 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,560 Speaker 2: to be a liquor store. What's that about? And some 1339 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 2: guy that can't speak a lick of English goes, oh, 1340 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's fraud. We're watching the theft of 1341 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:57,759 Speaker 2: your tax dollars in mind, right under our noses. Marsha 1342 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,320 Speaker 2: Blackburn is coming up in just a little bits United 1343 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:05,120 Speaker 2: States Senator from Tennessee, and she's introduced the Fraud Accountability Act. 1344 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 2: It explicitly adds fraud as a deportable offense under the 1345 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 2: Immigration and Nationality Act. The bill would make clear that 1346 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,639 Speaker 2: any person who commits a deportable offense now explicitly including 1347 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 2: fraud like this, would be subject to denaturalization. It just 1348 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:29,479 Speaker 2: makes sense. This protesting you're seeing in the streets of 1349 01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,560 Speaker 2: Minneapolis isn't authentic or organic, not at all. It is 1350 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:42,160 Speaker 2: the last gasps of a subsidized institutional fraud petering out, panicking, 1351 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,760 Speaker 2: and we got to keep the pressure on more than 1352 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 2: a minute. How Americans are grading Trump on Venezuela and Greenland. 1353 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 2: Axios is out with some new polling. Now, I mind 1354 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,759 Speaker 2: you that the new polling is a sample of Rutter's 1355 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,640 Speaker 2: ipso's taking a sample of two hundred and seventeen adults. 1356 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,519 Speaker 2: Now that shouldn't mean much of anything to you or me, 1357 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 2: because when you see a poll that samples adults, what 1358 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,080 Speaker 2: does that mean? That just means any random knuckle dragging, 1359 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,240 Speaker 2: mouth breathing, anybody that's stopped on the street. Excuse me, sir, 1360 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 2: do you have a functioning brain? 1361 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:20,280 Speaker 13: Oh? 1362 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, do you mind answering some questions? 1363 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 7: H sure? 1364 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,320 Speaker 2: You know, we don't know whether he watches any news. 1365 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 2: We don't know if he has any knowledge of much 1366 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 2: of anything. We don't know if he votes. But opinions 1367 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 2: are like what everybody has one right, you've heard that saying, well, sure, 1368 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,320 Speaker 2: Americans are divided on the merits of President Trump's recent 1369 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:49,439 Speaker 2: foreign incursions and threats, and remain especially skeptical of acquiring Greenland. 1370 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:54,200 Speaker 2: New polling has found well again in this audience. I 1371 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,720 Speaker 2: don't think there's going to be much dispute about why 1372 01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:02,040 Speaker 2: Venezuela and Greenland are important. It's been explained repeatedly by 1373 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 2: this president. It's been explained repeatedly by this host. You're 1374 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 2: a sophisticated audience. You read, you understand. President Trump is 1375 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 2: calling attention to global vulnerabilities to this country that no 1376 01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 2: one's paid attention to before. Nobody has thought about shipping 1377 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,080 Speaker 2: lanes in Greenland. Nobody has thought about Russia and China 1378 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 2: just taking over Greenland and what that could mean, and 1379 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,759 Speaker 2: that they're buying it up right and left and offering 1380 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 2: to buy did you even know I didn't know. Did 1381 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 2: you know that China was offering Greenland money? Then Mark 1382 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 2: I should say to buy it. They've been rebuffed so far, 1383 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,640 Speaker 2: But did you know that we should? And does that 1384 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,679 Speaker 2: matter to you? If you look at it on a globe, 1385 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 2: look at it, look at a physical globe and look 1386 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,639 Speaker 2: at Greenland and then think about it being China or Russia, 1387 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,599 Speaker 2: does that not give you a new perspective? Or when 1388 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 2: you know that Russia and China and Iran are doing 1389 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 2: business with a dictator in Venezuela stealing oil an oil 1390 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 2: infrastructure that we Americans paid for to extract from their ground, 1391 01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 2: and they're financing terror with it in our backyard, the 1392 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,320 Speaker 2: Western hemisphere and when you look at it that way, 1393 01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 2: when smart people understand the vulnerabilities to this country, like 1394 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 2: President Trump and his team, and it's explained well to 1395 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,479 Speaker 2: the American people, and we can debate whether it's being 1396 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,559 Speaker 2: explained well or not. I think most Americans are even 1397 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 2: aware of the sitting duck nature we were under Joe Biden. 1398 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 2: I think that Chinese spy balloon is one of the 1399 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,599 Speaker 2: perfect illustrations of how dangerous and tenuous things were. Eight 1400 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,680 Speaker 2: days a spy balloon flies over our country and was allowed. 1401 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 4: To do so. 1402 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:44,560 Speaker 2: These things were being allowed allowed our enemies floating in 1403 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 2: our waters right off the coast of Alaska or Florida. 1404 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 2: That's stuff that was going on in real time every day, 1405 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 2: and most of us were just blissfully ignorant of it. 1406 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,920 Speaker 2: And so Axios comes out with a pole. Now that 1407 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:02,280 Speaker 2: says a plurality of people are not happy with the 1408 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:06,320 Speaker 2: way Trump's talking about Greenland and Venezuela. Well. I suspect 1409 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,760 Speaker 2: it's because most of these people asked have absolutely no 1410 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,400 Speaker 2: idea the danger we face, and if they had it explained, 1411 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:17,679 Speaker 2: they might answer differently. Ornament. President Trump on truth Social 1412 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 2: this morning just a little while ago, said if the 1413 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,599 Speaker 2: corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop 1414 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:28,040 Speaker 2: the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of 1415 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,000 Speaker 2: Ice who are only trying to do their job, I 1416 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:34,639 Speaker 2: will institute the Insurrection Act, which many presidents have done 1417 01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,879 Speaker 2: before me, and quickly put an end to the travesty 1418 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 2: taking place in that once great state. Thank you for 1419 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,120 Speaker 2: your attention to this matter. I'm sure Senator Marsha Blackburn 1420 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,720 Speaker 2: of the great State of Tennessee has something to say 1421 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,960 Speaker 2: about this and much more. And Senator will welcome you 1422 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 2: back to the show. Good morning, ma'am. 1423 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,559 Speaker 7: Good to join you. Thank you so much. 1424 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 2: You have been dealing in something called the Fraud Accountability Act, 1425 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,840 Speaker 2: which tackles what we're seeing just one instance of it, 1426 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,759 Speaker 2: I'm afraid, not just in Minneapolis, but in so many places. 1427 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 2: And I want to get into that in just a second, 1428 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 2: but it dovetails nicely with this subject of what the 1429 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 2: President's addressing. In my view, Senator, this street theater that 1430 01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:15,120 Speaker 2: we're seeing is born almost exclusively out of the need 1431 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,879 Speaker 2: to distract from the staggering multi billion dollar fraud we've uncovered. 1432 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,760 Speaker 2: That's my opinion. How about you, what we do know. 1433 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:28,679 Speaker 9: Is this there is a fraud scheme that has taken 1434 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 9: place in Minnesota that I don't know if there's been 1435 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,800 Speaker 9: anything else like that said is very intentional, it is 1436 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 9: very purposeful in their ability and their desire to defraud 1437 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:48,840 Speaker 9: the US taxpayer. And we are already up to about 1438 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 9: ten billion dollars and the estimate is the number is 1439 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 9: going to go even higher. 1440 01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:57,519 Speaker 7: And because of. 1441 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 9: That, we were looking at the Immigration and Nationality Act 1442 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:06,680 Speaker 9: and trying to make certain that these individuals could not 1443 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:11,679 Speaker 9: only be deported, but they could be denaturalized. And fraud 1444 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:17,120 Speaker 9: is one of the offenses that can trigger a denaturalization process. 1445 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,559 Speaker 9: But we found it was not consistent through the code. 1446 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:26,200 Speaker 9: So my Fraud Accountability Act, and I've got several members 1447 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 9: of the Republican Conference that have joined me on this bill. 1448 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,760 Speaker 9: It would make it explicit. It would tighten up and 1449 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,040 Speaker 9: tweak this to make certain that it's all types of 1450 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 9: fraud that can trigger denaturalization, and it can be against 1451 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:47,679 Speaker 9: private citizens, are your local, state or federal government. Because indeed, 1452 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 9: we know that the federal government was sending money to 1453 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 9: Minnesota and then it was working its way to the 1454 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 9: local level to these supposed charities that turn out to 1455 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 9: be storefronts that are used to receive government payments and 1456 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:10,759 Speaker 9: they're not delivering the services that they're supposed to be delivering. 1457 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,080 Speaker 2: What is it, Senator, that seems unique? I mean, I 1458 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 2: doubt it's just smally. I mean, that particular group has 1459 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,840 Speaker 2: been identified as pretty infested with this behavior, but I 1460 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,560 Speaker 2: doubt it's exclusive to them. I'm sure they are probably Americans, 1461 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,560 Speaker 2: natural born Americans, who are participating in this kind of 1462 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,600 Speaker 2: fraud too. But what is it specifically about these immigrants, 1463 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,800 Speaker 2: legal or otherwise, who are coming in defrauding taxpayers? Why 1464 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 2: is it uniquely amongst this group? 1465 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,760 Speaker 9: And Chris, what we are wanting to see and the 1466 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 9: reason there is such an immediate investigation of this is 1467 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 9: because this is a crime against the US taxpayer and 1468 01:23:55,360 --> 01:24:01,080 Speaker 9: the GAO has estimated that fraud in our annual budget, 1469 01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 9: this is our annual budget, that fraudulent disbursement and fraudulent 1470 01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 9: use of taxpayer dollars run somewhere between two hundred and 1471 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 9: fifty and five hundred and twenty one million billion dollars, 1472 01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 9: that is billion a year. Now, a former GOO Inspector General, 1473 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:29,639 Speaker 9: the Assistant estimates it's up to seven hundred and fifty 1474 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 9: billion dollars a year. Chris, that is how much we 1475 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 9: spend on our nation's security. That is our defense budget, 1476 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,840 Speaker 9: and it is it's our medicaid budget, and it is 1477 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,080 Speaker 9: one hundred billion dollars short of what we spend on defense, 1478 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 9: which is eight hundred and fifty billion dollars a year. 1479 01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 7: So think about that. 1480 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,480 Speaker 9: The amount of fraud in an annual budget is equivalent 1481 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 9: to what we spend on providing medicaid services. Now, what 1482 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 9: we are here and one of the main calls coming 1483 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,880 Speaker 9: in to sendate offices right now is people that are 1484 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 9: identifying or saying have you looked at this program? Sometimes 1485 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 9: it's property fraud. Sometimes it's fraud dens and scamming senior citizens. 1486 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 9: Other times it is programs on healthcare or social security, 1487 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 9: or transportation services, or daycare or elder care or child's care. 1488 01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 9: But there seems to be a template that is being 1489 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:38,120 Speaker 9: used by different groups that would choose to defraud the 1490 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:44,240 Speaker 9: American taxpayer. And when this is someone who has come 1491 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,160 Speaker 9: to the country, is on a work permit, of visa, 1492 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:54,040 Speaker 9: a legal residency, or they are a naturalized citizen. If 1493 01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,560 Speaker 9: they are found to be doing this, they can be 1494 01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:04,720 Speaker 9: apprehended and held until they're denaturalization and deportation hearing can 1495 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:11,200 Speaker 9: take place, and then they will be removed from the country. 1496 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:16,320 Speaker 9: And by the way, our legislation allows any court, any 1497 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 9: federal court, to hear these cases, so that we don't 1498 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:26,439 Speaker 9: get backed up waiting years for an immigration court to 1499 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 9: hear these cases. 1500 01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:32,880 Speaker 2: Senator Marshall Blackburn of Tennessee joins US pivoting to Secretary 1501 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,880 Speaker 2: Besson commenting on the Federal Reserve. Here, Jerome Powell, there's 1502 01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,000 Speaker 2: a look under the hood right now of the cost 1503 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,080 Speaker 2: overruns at the FED. Senator, I wanted to play you, 1504 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,800 Speaker 2: Secretary Besson and get your reaction number sixty three, if 1505 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,200 Speaker 2: you would please, Paul, the. 1506 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:53,759 Speaker 15: Federal Reserve occupies a unique spot in the American governmental process. 1507 01:26:54,640 --> 01:27:00,880 Speaker 15: They have no supervision, they have no accountability, and I 1508 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 15: think that we will look at this and think that 1509 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,320 Speaker 15: a couple of things. On Chair Palell's watch, the FED 1510 01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 15: is now losing one hundred billion dollars a year, one 1511 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 15: hundred billion dollars with no accountability. We had the worst 1512 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:20,680 Speaker 15: inflation in forty nine years. And we'll see what the 1513 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,519 Speaker 15: Italian ends up being. But got a very good chance 1514 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,599 Speaker 15: that we will have had ethics violations over the past 1515 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:32,559 Speaker 15: for four to six of the regional presidents or governors, 1516 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,960 Speaker 15: and there needs to be some accountability. 1517 01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:42,960 Speaker 2: Senator, this sounds somewhat related. If the Secretary's accusations stand. 1518 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,760 Speaker 2: What do you know, Chris. 1519 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 9: One of the things I continue to say is we 1520 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:53,200 Speaker 9: have to remember that under the Biden administration, they tried 1521 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:58,880 Speaker 9: to make illegal legal, whether we were talking about the 1522 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:04,920 Speaker 9: regulations and the rules from different agencies or immigration, and 1523 01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,919 Speaker 9: we just see this so widespread. I mean, we're spending 1524 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:13,160 Speaker 9: so much time cleaning up things that happen during the 1525 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,960 Speaker 9: Biden years and indeed going back into the Obama years. 1526 01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,800 Speaker 9: So there is a lot of house cleaning that is 1527 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 9: taking place. 1528 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:23,040 Speaker 2: And I give the. 1529 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 9: Administration and President Trump a lot of credit for pushing 1530 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,559 Speaker 9: this to the forefront. Now when it comes to the FED, 1531 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,800 Speaker 9: I think everyone said, hey, how is it that this 1532 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:39,320 Speaker 9: building has such massive cost overruns and they're so far 1533 01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:44,360 Speaker 9: off schedule. And usually when there is a contract that displaced, 1534 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:49,080 Speaker 9: you have a timeframe that you were working from and 1535 01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:53,400 Speaker 9: in a date certain for turning over the keys to 1536 01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,519 Speaker 9: that project, and you also have a budget. But there 1537 01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,559 Speaker 9: seems to be no accountability for this and finding out 1538 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:05,360 Speaker 9: what has happened and why is going to be an imperative. 1539 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:10,280 Speaker 9: And President Trump is right to do that. His goal 1540 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 9: is to make certain that the federal government is there 1541 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,400 Speaker 9: to be a good steward of the taxpayer's money and 1542 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:22,400 Speaker 9: that they are there to serve the needs and expectations 1543 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:28,759 Speaker 9: of the American taxpayer and the American citizen. And President 1544 01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 9: Trump continues to say America First, and as he is 1545 01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:36,799 Speaker 9: saying that, it is the people of this country first, 1546 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:41,559 Speaker 9: looking out for our citizens, making certain that our country 1547 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:46,920 Speaker 9: is safe and secure, making certain that our people are 1548 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:51,599 Speaker 9: going to be prosperous. And these are all. 1549 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 6: Things on the to do list. 1550 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,040 Speaker 9: And I'll tell you it's an honor to be in 1551 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,879 Speaker 9: the Senate and to be supporting that America First agenda 1552 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:01,559 Speaker 9: and supporting our president. 1553 01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,280 Speaker 2: You know, Senator, we had a story earlier this week 1554 01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 2: that said the states that are losing population the fastest, 1555 01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,680 Speaker 2: the states that are gaining population the fastest. Tennessee was 1556 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,439 Speaker 2: one of those gaining population the fastest. Personal anecdote, I 1557 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,840 Speaker 2: have a sister in law and a brother in law 1558 01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,559 Speaker 2: who are just about to sell their home in suburban 1559 01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,760 Speaker 2: Chicago and moved the great state of Tennessee. I told 1560 01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:24,040 Speaker 2: them that I was not only going to be talking 1561 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,439 Speaker 2: to their future senator, but probably their future governor. So 1562 01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,960 Speaker 2: I promised my in laws that I would I would 1563 01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,519 Speaker 2: share that with you. They're headed to Tennessee. You've got 1564 01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 2: more constituents coming, Yes. 1565 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:34,640 Speaker 7: Indeed we do. 1566 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,800 Speaker 9: Tennessee has no state income tax, of course, but when 1567 01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,360 Speaker 9: I was in the state Senate, I led the fight 1568 01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 9: to kill that imposition of a state income tax. And 1569 01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:52,639 Speaker 9: we have been a well led, well governed state. Our 1570 01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,439 Speaker 9: focus has been how do we make certain that we 1571 01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,719 Speaker 9: are a safe, prosperous state. And as the next governor, 1572 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,080 Speaker 9: my goal is to make certain that Tennessee is America's 1573 01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:08,680 Speaker 9: conservative leader. We want to be state where people know 1574 01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,680 Speaker 9: they are going to be free. We want to be 1575 01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:13,520 Speaker 9: number one individual. 1576 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,559 Speaker 2: Senator, You're always welcome back. I appreciate your time. Senator 1577 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:23,000 Speaker 2: Marsha Blackburn, thank you, Mam. Senator Ashley Moody yesterday and 1578 01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:26,360 Speaker 2: Josh Holly, We're among a couple of different senators during 1579 01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:31,679 Speaker 2: the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee hearing talking 1580 01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,320 Speaker 2: about the use of chemical abortion drugs, among other things, 1581 01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,040 Speaker 2: and then we went down the rabbit hole of what 1582 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,440 Speaker 2: is a woman and what is a man? These esteemed doctors. 1583 01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:49,400 Speaker 2: You're Senator Moody number fifty four questioning doctor Verma, MS Verma. 1584 01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:50,960 Speaker 1: Can men get pregnant? 1585 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:54,439 Speaker 2: Doctor Verba? 1586 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,360 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we're doctor bron Can 1587 01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:57,200 Speaker 1: men get pregnant? 1588 01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:57,840 Speaker 2: As a doctor? 1589 01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,679 Speaker 7: Give me your opinion as a doctor? 1590 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:06,960 Speaker 1: Can men get pregnant? I mean, I'll move on to 1591 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,679 Speaker 1: the next one, is doctor, can men get pregnant? 1592 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:10,840 Speaker 4: No? 1593 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,519 Speaker 7: I know you're a lawyer, an ag like I was 1594 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:14,880 Speaker 7: an ag? 1595 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: Can men get pregnant? 1596 01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 15: No? 1597 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:22,400 Speaker 2: Josh Hawley also tried it with doctor Verma. 1598 01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:26,679 Speaker 12: Take a listen, do you think that men can get pregnant? 1599 01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,840 Speaker 16: I hesitated there because I wasn't sure where the conversation 1600 01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 16: was going or what the goal was. I mean, I 1601 01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 16: do take care of patients with different identities. I take 1602 01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,120 Speaker 16: care of many women. I take care of people with 1603 01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:40,000 Speaker 16: different identities, and so that's where I paused. 1604 01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:44,040 Speaker 1: I think I wasn't sure where you were going with that. 1605 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,400 Speaker 12: Well, the goal is is the truth? So can men 1606 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:47,000 Speaker 12: get pregnant? 1607 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,880 Speaker 1: Again? The reason I pause there is I'm not really 1608 01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:51,240 Speaker 1: sure what. 1609 01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:52,679 Speaker 2: The goal of the class. 1610 01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,479 Speaker 17: Goal is is to establish a biological reality. You just 1611 01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,759 Speaker 17: said a moment ago that science and evidence should control, 1612 01:32:58,920 --> 01:32:59,640 Speaker 17: not politics. 1613 01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 12: So let's just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant? 1614 01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,639 Speaker 1: I take care of people with many identities. 1615 01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:07,920 Speaker 12: But can men get pregnant? 1616 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,240 Speaker 1: Many women that. 1617 01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,680 Speaker 16: Can get pregnant? I do take care of people that 1618 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 16: don't identify as women. 1619 01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,040 Speaker 12: That can Can men get pregnant? 1620 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,599 Speaker 1: Again, as I'm saying, let me, let. 1621 01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:19,080 Speaker 12: Me just remind you. 1622 01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:22,200 Speaker 17: You testified to a moment ago science and evidence should control, 1623 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:23,160 Speaker 17: not politics. 1624 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,280 Speaker 12: So should can men get pregnant? 1625 01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,360 Speaker 16: You're a doctor, say science and evidence should guide medicine. 1626 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,080 Speaker 17: I do science and evidence tell us that men can 1627 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,479 Speaker 17: get pregnant? Biological men? Can they get pregnant? 1628 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,960 Speaker 1: I also think yes, No questions like this are a 1629 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,040 Speaker 1: political tool. 1630 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 12: No, yes, No questions are about the truth. 1631 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:41,320 Speaker 7: Doctor. 1632 01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,160 Speaker 12: Let's not make a mockery of this proceeding. 1633 01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:53,040 Speaker 2: That's doctor, she said before that twisted pretzel logic. Speaking 1634 01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,599 Speaker 2: of doctor from Reline dot com, doctor Fauci, remember him? 1635 01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:01,799 Speaker 2: Anthony Fausci privately acknowledged the impression data showing stronger immunity 1636 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:06,920 Speaker 2: from a COVID infection than shots, while publicly pushing those 1637 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:12,520 Speaker 2: shots newly released document show Biden's top pandemic response officials 1638 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:17,160 Speaker 2: discussed a thorough study from Israel showing the superiority of 1639 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:23,920 Speaker 2: natural infection simultaneous with the initial initiation of federal shot mandates, 1640 01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,840 Speaker 2: and what they knew was natural immunity was always best 1641 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:32,080 Speaker 2: in most cases, and they hit it anyway to push 1642 01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:37,560 Speaker 2: a political shot, just like doctor Verma is pushing the 1643 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:43,120 Speaker 2: politics of gender confusion. It's sick. We'll see you tomorrow. 1644 01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,599 Speaker 2: So that's a wrap for another Christa Gall Show podcast. 1645 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:47,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for committing to it listening to it all the 1646 01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,200 Speaker 2: way through. You're a fighter. I like that about you. 1647 01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,400 Speaker 2: Hope you'll leave it a five star review and a 1648 01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:55,400 Speaker 2: written review Apple Podcasts, Spotify. We'll see you next time 1649 01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:59,840 Speaker 2: here on the Chrystagall Show podcast. Their Christicall Show podcast