1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: You're listening to every Day Prayers with million Praying Moms, 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: where we pray God's word for our families in the 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: areas we need it most. 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Nicolette Bell. Here. 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: We believe prayer isn't a last resort. We think it's 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: the first and best response in parenting, a partnership for 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: the hearts of our children that God invites us into. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: And I am so glad that you have joined us 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: today for our Friday interviews as part of our Summer 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: book club. While we have our author Sjalene Roberts, where 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: we're featuring her book When Mothering is Hard and no 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: one sees all summer long. 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: Shaleene, welcome back to the show. Thank you. 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 3: I'm so glad to be here. It's good to see 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: you again. 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: I know we're getting to know each other well through 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: all these interviews. 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: In action, it's been a gift to me. 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: So absolutely. 22 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: We are in week five of our book club. I 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: can't believe it. It is going so fast. We are 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: just rolling through, learning so much together, covering chapters nine 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: and ten in your book, and really this week we 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: finish up Part two. Your book is in three parts, 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 2: and so we finish up part two and we step 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: into part three, and so I want us to kind 29 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: of finish out part two and talk about that and 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: the mindset of the kingdom that we really delved into 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: last week. 32 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: We're going to do a little bit more there and 33 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: then moving on. 34 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: To some really practical Part three is like very very practical. 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: And so you've convinced us this far that motherhood is 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: a divine calling that has been laid out in scripture, 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: and so these back calf is like the practices of 38 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: how to live that out and really to put that 39 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: in practice. So I love that you included that because 40 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: we need really practical steps as moms who are busy, 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: and we want to know some things we can do 42 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: and put into practice. So that's what we're going to 43 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: kind of delve into today. So let's begin with chapter nine, 44 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: is kind of finishing out part two. I do want 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: to say to our listeners, if you have not been 46 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: reading along, please keep listening today. There's going to be 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: plenty that you can grab on to and take into 48 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: your motherhood journey. You don't have to be reading with 49 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: us exactly to be following along exactly. But for those 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: that have been reading along. We're in chapter nine. It's 51 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: titled the Kingdom Command, and it kind of ends this 52 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: section where you've been building an argument talking about the 53 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: Kingdom of God in our motherhood. So what is this 54 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 2: Kingdom command and how do we live it out? 55 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's probably one of my favorite chapters in the 56 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 4: whole book because we have been moving up towards this point. 57 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: I've been setting the stage for We talk about the 58 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: holiness of motherhood and how God ordained it all the 59 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: way back in the garden, and how he desires to 60 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: partner with us and the radical redemption of his people. 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: That right here is where we see the actual command. 62 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: So I love this chapter. So we talk about in Matthew. 63 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: So we go to Matthew and we talk about in Matthew, 64 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: there's the scene where Jesus' husben crucified. 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: He's dead. 66 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: It's the third day and the women are going to 67 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: the tomb to anoint Jesus's body for burial. 68 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: And you know, I gosh, I just this passage gets. 69 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 4: Me all the time because I think about the heartbreak 70 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 4: and despondency that they must have been feeling. They believed 71 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 4: he was the savior and then it seemed like he 72 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: couldn't even save himself. They thought he was going to 73 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: save them and their nation, and their people and ultimately 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: ultimately all of us. He couldn't even save himself, or 75 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: so it seemed. So these women are walking to the 76 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: grave with heavy, burdened aching hearts, and they get there 77 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: and the most astounding thing happens that they never expected. Right, 78 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: Jesus explained to his followers what was going to happen, 79 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: but they could not fully grasp it. We live on 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: the other side of the cross, so we understand, but 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: they had no idea even though he tried to explain it. 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: So they get there and there's a great earthquake. An 83 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: angel descends from heaven, rolls away the stone, sits on 84 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: it and tells the women you are seeking. I know 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: that you have come to seek Jesus. He is not here, 86 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 4: for he has risen Go and tell the disciples. And 87 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 4: so I just think, in the blink of an eye, 88 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 4: these women's utter despondency turned to the most astonished, unbelievable 89 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: hope and joy. So they turn I like to think 90 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: they were probably running right. They just heard the good 91 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: news that Jesus had risen from the dead. They are 92 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: probably running to go tell the disciples, and all of 93 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: a sudden, Jesus appears in They're midst and he says 94 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: in Matthew twenty eight, he says, greetings, and he meets 95 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: these women right where they are, and I can just 96 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: imagine them like they're sandal laced, dirty feet, getting to 97 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 4: a stop in astonishment. And then it says that they 98 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 4: came and they worshiped him, and the worship, I don't know. 99 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: Has there ever been in all of history? Has there 100 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: ever been a more beautiful moment of worship? 101 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 102 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: And then Jesus tells these women, go tell my brothers. 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: And so in this passage Matthew twenty eight is the 104 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: first time that we see the go and tell command. 105 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: He tells the women, go and tell. And I unpack 106 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: this in the book. 107 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 4: You know, there are a lot of There are some 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: different reasons that scholars believe maybe Jesus appeared to the 109 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: women first, because you know, a woman's testimony was not 110 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: legally binding in court. It was considered untrustworthy. So some 111 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: scholars believe maybe Jesus did this intentionally so that if 112 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: somebody said the disciples fabricated the resurrection. You would look 113 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: at this and go, no, no, no, if you made 114 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 4: if you made that up, you would not put this 115 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 4: in there. Nobody would believe it. So maybe that was why, 116 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 4: Maybe there was a strategic reason. But when I was 117 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: writing this book and I was just kind of sitting 118 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 4: on this passage, I really think there was another reason. 119 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: I think Jesus appeared to these women because he wanted 120 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 4: to make their joy complete and he loved them. He 121 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: could have appeared in the midst of the disciples. He 122 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: did not need the women to go and tell, but 123 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: he appeared before them first because he loved them, to 124 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: make their joy complete. And then he elevated them. You know, 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: women did not have any worth in that society. He 126 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: elevated them with the very first missional go in tell command. 127 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 4: That first command was given to women, and so he 128 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: elevated their worth, He elevated their position. And you and 129 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: I as mothers, that same go and tell command applies 130 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 4: to us today too. It applies to us within our 131 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: own homes, it applies to us within our own community. 132 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: We have the same command given to us as women 133 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: in the twenty first century. 134 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: That's so beautiful. I get chills when I hear you 135 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: talk about that. And I think there's something so powerful 136 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: about looking at the Resurrection story not at Easter. We're 137 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: in the middle of the summer. I love looking at 138 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: and following the liturgical calendar. There's something really powerful about 139 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: those rhythms that we do year after year. But I 140 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: think so often we can just skim over that because 141 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: it's just the story and we know it and we've 142 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: heard it before. But let's not lose the wonder of that. 143 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: And I think sometimes when we read it, when we 144 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: read the resurrection story, or we read the story of 145 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: christ Birth not at Christmas, and we read Resurrection not 146 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 2: at Easter, it gives us a different lens to see 147 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: and to understand what's going on and what might be 148 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: happening a little bit differently. And so I think that 149 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: is a true gift of this book of your writing here, Sheleine, 150 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: because we get to sit with this resurrection story and 151 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: think about what does it mean for my life today 152 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: in July, not necessarily in April and Eastern right, it 153 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: has this command that lives on and lives through us today. 154 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: In the same way that it did to those women. 155 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree. 156 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: And I think because we live in the Western Church 157 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: and we're so familiar with the story and we're two 158 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 4: thousand years removed from the resurrection, I think I'm sorry, 159 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 4: not too well. Yeah, about two thousand years from the resurrection. 160 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 4: We are so familiar with it, and so we do 161 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: lose the wonder. And I think, if we can bring 162 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 4: ourselves back and put ourselves in the position of those 163 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: women who they were living on the other side of 164 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 4: the cross, they were living before until the resurrected Christ 165 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: appeared before them, if we can put ourselves. 166 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 3: In their shoes and just try to imagine what I mean. 167 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: I cannot fathom the emotional ups and downs that they 168 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 4: must have been experiencing, and then the exuberant joy when 169 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 4: they realize that everything that Christ had been trying to 170 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: teach them was coming to fruition through his death and resurrection. 171 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: It's just it's. 172 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really it's really sweet, it's really tender, And 173 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: I agree thinking about it outside of Easter is powerful. 174 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there's really something to that. 175 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: So this kingdom command that we've been given, what does 176 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: that look like for how we live that out? We've 177 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: been given this go and tell commission. What does that 178 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: mean for me and my family and for our listeners 179 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: and their families. 180 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think first and foremost as moms, you 181 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: I like to see. I like to say that as moms, 182 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 4: as parents, our family is a little eclesia. 183 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: You know. 184 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: Ecleosya is the Greek word for church, and it literally 185 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: means a gathering as people. So our family, if we're 186 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: believers in the Blood of Jesus Christ, and we are, 187 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 4: we are a gathering of people. 188 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 3: Our home is a little ecclesia. 189 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 4: So the go and tell command for us as moms, 190 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 4: first and foremost is to go and tell our children. 191 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: Sometimes we think about and I think you and I've 192 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: maybe talked about this before. Sometimes we think about the 193 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 4: go and tell command is out there, you know, maybe 194 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: it's maybe it's out in the community, and certainly it is. 195 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: Or maybe it's maybe it's abroad, and certainly it is. 196 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: But sometimes we tend to overlook the go and tell 197 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 4: command that exists right in front of us. And so 198 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: I think it's important first and foremost we have to 199 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: understand God gave us these children in this day, in 200 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 4: this time for very specific reason, and we are responsible 201 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 4: to steward the gift that He gave us. And part 202 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 4: of that, the most important part of that, includes going 203 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: and telling our children about the gift of the good 204 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 4: News of Jesus Christ. And you know the end me, 205 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: he doesn't want us to do that. He wants to 206 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: distract us. He wants us to get so busy and 207 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 4: all the things we have to do. But that is 208 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: first and foremost the most important part of the go 209 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: and tell command. And then it of course extends to 210 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: your community and your school, and you know it goes on. 211 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: But first it's our family. 212 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we often get that backwards, don't we. 213 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: I want to read one of my favorite quotes that 214 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: you wrote in the entire book. It's on page one 215 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: fifty five, and you write, motherhood doesn't put the Great 216 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: commission out of reach. It puts the Great Commission right 217 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: in front of us. 218 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 219 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 2: When I read this, it really really struck me because 220 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: I feel like I was serving in the local church 221 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: and now I serve inn online ministry, and so often 222 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: I feel like the care of my children can feel 223 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: like a hindrance to the calling God has placed on 224 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 2: my life. 225 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: Right, and I feel. 226 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: This constant tension in myself of God, You've called me 227 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: to do these things, But here are these people who 228 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: need me and need my attention, and I feel a 229 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: longing and tug in a pool to care for them 230 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: and to do that as well as I do this other. 231 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: And so for me, this was such a reminder of 232 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: the purpose in my motherhood and also the seasonality of 233 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: what I'm in. Right, you're on the other side of 234 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: where I am. You have one about to go to college, 235 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: like leaving the empty nest. My sister has older kids, 236 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 2: one in college and two about to go to college, 237 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: and so I get that perspective from her as well. 238 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: But like, this is only a season of my life, right, 239 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: And so I I don't want to feel like I'm 240 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: not fulfilling the calling. 241 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: I think that's the world. 242 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: That's that's the enemy, trying to twist what I'm thinking, 243 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: or even my own self of wanting to earn and 244 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: to please God instead of just being where He's placed 245 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: me to be. So not that you know, we can 246 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: we can talk about this another time, like this to 247 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: work or not to work, Like that's not what I'm 248 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: really talking about here, but just where I'm placing my value. 249 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: But this quote man, it it hit me. 250 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 251 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: I also think for so long as members of the 252 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: Western Church. And I don't get me wrong, I love 253 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: kids ministries in church. I think that there is a 254 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: place for them. They're very effective. My kids have benefited 255 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 4: greatly from the kids ministry at our church. However, in 256 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 4: the Western Church, we have tended within church to segment 257 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 4: Sunday mornings. We have adult church and we have kids Church, 258 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: and in some ways has that is a mentality that 259 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: has taken root in our heart, and we as parents 260 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: have almost gotten to this place where we think we 261 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: need to outsource the discipleship of our children to the 262 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 4: local church or to parachurch organizations, and so we can 263 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 4: kind of we think, and I think it's even I 264 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 4: don't think it's I think it's subconscious, but in some 265 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: ways we almost think we can just kind of sit 266 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: back and let the church or the parachurch ministry disciple 267 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 4: our kids. 268 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: That is not how God designed it. That is not 269 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: how He intended it. 270 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: He intended our children first and foremost to sit under 271 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: our discipleship. 272 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: He has tasked us. 273 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: In calling us with the mission of bringing the good 274 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: news to our children so that we can raise them 275 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: up so they can go out and tell a desperate, 276 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: hurting world about the good news of Jesus Christ. 277 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: So I think that what. 278 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: You're saying, I think so many women will relate to 279 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: because so many of us have felt that. I remember, 280 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: I mean, even just writing going through the process of 281 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: writing this book, that quote, when the Lord kind of 282 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: impressed that on me. 283 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: That was convicting to. 284 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: Me too, because I thought, how many times have I 285 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: done the same thing. How many times have I thought, well, 286 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: missional work, the Great Commission is out there, it's not 287 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: in here. And when I have that thinking, when I think, well, 288 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: it's out there, and then it's completely the enemy. 289 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: Because here's what happens, especially for busy moms. 290 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: The enemy tells us a great commission's out there, but 291 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: then he gets us so busy and distracted in here 292 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: that we think, well, I can't go out there because 293 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: I'm too busy here. But also I'm so because the 294 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: Great Commission's out there, I don't need to disciple here. 295 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: So what happened? We're not doing everything right, missing it 296 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: in all the places. 297 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And in reality, the Great Commission is right 298 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: in front of us. And then when we have eyes 299 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: to see and a heart that recognizes that, and we 300 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: disciple our kids that actually overflows into the community. Right, 301 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: So when we do that first, we are influencing both realms. 302 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: But the enemy he's so deceptive, he. 303 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: Is he is. 304 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: Wow, that is so true. That is so so true. 305 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: We really can get that wrong a lot. And so 306 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: this is such an encouragement. I'm going to read that 307 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: quote for us just one more time and then we'll 308 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: move on to chapter ten. Motherhood doesn't put the Great 309 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: Commission out of reach. It puts the Great Commission right 310 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: in front of us. 311 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: May we see it today? 312 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: May we look in the faces of our children and 313 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: see it and know that's exactly what we're supposed to 314 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: be doing and exactly where we're supposed to be. 315 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: Ma'am, I'm getting a tear in my eye. 316 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: Okay, moving on to part three and chapter ten, which 317 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: is titled Yeah, filling up and pouring out. Well, sometimes 318 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: in motherhood, doesn't it seem like we're just pouring out? 319 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: There's no filling, We're just. 320 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 4: From an empty way, but it's still pouring here go, yes, 321 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: you're good. 322 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: Yes, So let's talk about where did that a title 323 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: come from? 324 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: We're kind of transitioning in. 325 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: The How Tosh, where did that title come from? 326 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: And what does it mean? 327 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I like to say if the part went 328 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: into are like the classroom teaching of the book, this 329 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: is the lab because this is where we're like rolling 330 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: up and hitting our hands dirty. 331 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, that title just cave experience. 332 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: It came from you know, it's been a mom for 333 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: eighteen years, and there are a lot of years where 334 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: I have felt like I am pouring from an empty Wow, 335 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: and we have to understand that we cannot or out. 336 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: You know, we are life givers as moms. 337 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: Well, we can't prout life. 338 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 4: And give life to our children if we aren't going 339 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: to the source of fight himself first. We're going to 340 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: constantly try to be pouring out of exhaustion and overwhelm 341 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: and distraction if we aren't first going to the source 342 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: of life himself. 343 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: So that title just. 344 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 4: Came from my own experience and seasons of feeling like 345 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: I was pooring, poor and pooring and I didn't have 346 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 4: anything left to give. And you know, just in his 347 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: compassion and kindness, the Lord revealing to me, if you're 348 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 4: going to prout life, you have to come to the lifegiver. 349 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: You have to be in fellowship and seek the lifegiver. 350 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's where the title came from. 351 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: So we kind of go into you're going to discuss 352 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: like three practices, and the first one is prayer. Is 353 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 2: to pray, And you know, we could just sit here 354 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: for several weeks on this podcast because that's exactly what 355 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: we talk about every day again and again, is praying 356 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: for our families coming to God in freer. And I love, love, 357 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: love the story that you tell about Susannah Wesley, John 358 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: Wesley's mother, and you kind of tell a couple of 359 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: stories about their life, So why don't you share a 360 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: little bit about that because I just think that we 361 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: as women can relate to this. It's a story I've 362 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: heard before but had kind of forgotten about. 363 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: So she I share the stories of three women. 364 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 4: So it's Monica, Saint Augustine's mom, Susannah Wesley, and then 365 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 4: Amelia Taylor. 366 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: And they're all wonderful. 367 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: They're all incredible stories of faithful, fervently praying moms that 368 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 4: I love Susannah's because I think she's just so relatable. 369 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: So Susanna Wesley, like you said, she was the mother 370 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 4: of John and Charles Wesley. 371 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: They both actually were hymn writers. 372 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: I forgot how many hymns together that they wrote, but 373 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 4: it's an astonishing amount. 374 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: And she had nineteen children. 375 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: Ten of those children lived to adulthood, so she was 376 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 4: obviously very busy. Life was not easy for Susannah. Her 377 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: husband actually left her a couple times. One time when 378 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 4: he was when he was gone, there's a little bit 379 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: of discrepancy in the facts of the story, but the 380 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 4: story goes that one time when he was gone there, 381 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: their house caught on fire. So their house actually caught 382 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 4: on fire twice. One time was when he had left 383 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 4: and he was not there, and then he ended up 384 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 4: hearing about the fire, came back, and then they kind 385 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 4: of rebuilt their lives after the fire. So she did 386 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 4: not have an easy life. He was kind of absent. 387 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 4: She was volunteering in the church. She homeschooled her children, 388 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: which wasn't necessarily irregular at that time, but she wrote 389 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: her own curriculum, which was amazing. So she would search 390 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 4: for curriculum and if it didn't meet her standard, she 391 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 4: wrote her own. She taught her children to read. I 392 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: believe she started at age five. She would teach them 393 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: to read by going through the Book of Genesis. So 394 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 4: it was incredible, incredible woman. Well she you look at 395 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 4: a woman like that. Everything she had on her plate 396 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 4: and all the demands of her, she had to be 397 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 4: connected to Christ or there was no way. It's you know, 398 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: it was by his power. It was his power was 399 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: made perfect in her weakness. And so she had this 400 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 4: really curious habit where, you know, so the chapter is 401 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 4: about prayer, and so we're talking about how do we 402 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 4: integrate a life of fervent, effectual prayer into our day 403 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: to day when we're hold out all, you know, from 404 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 4: all angles. She had this really curious habit where she 405 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: would take her apron and she would just she would 406 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: throw it over her head because she was just so 407 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: overwhelmed by everything that was going on around her. She 408 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 4: would take her apron, she would throw over her head, 409 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 4: and her children knew when Mom's apron is over her head, 410 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: that is her sacred place she is praying. Do not 411 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: bother her, don't talk to her, don't talk to her. 412 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: And I just love it because how many of us 413 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 4: feel like I, you know, I you not get a 414 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 4: moment away. I remember my kids for a little feeling 415 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: like I can't even go to the bathroom. I go 416 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 4: to the bathroom, and they were little fingers, you know, 417 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: sneaking under the door. 418 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: I can't even get. 419 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: A minute away. 420 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: And so how many of us can relate to that? 421 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: You know, I don't even feel like I can get 422 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 4: two a minute step cry. You may have to metaphorically 423 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: take an apron and throw it over your head and 424 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: just find, you know, five minutes under that apron to 425 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 4: be with you and the Lord. 426 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: So I love the story because it's just so relatable. 427 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I love it too. It's just is so relatable. 428 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: I think of a friend of mine. She has four 429 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: uh little ones, and she will She'll tell me she'll 430 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: put them all in the car and just get them 431 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 2: all in their car seats, and then she'll stand outside 432 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: for just a minute. 433 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: Yes, just close the doors. They're all safe, they're a. 434 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: And then I just pray for just a second before 435 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: I get into the car. Yes, I love them all 436 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 2: contained for just a minute. 437 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: And so that's what it reminds me of. 438 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: But your point in this chapter is by sharing these 439 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: stories of praying mothers, is the impact that we see 440 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: that their children had on the course of faith that 441 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: we're still. 442 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: Benefiting from today. 443 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: Seen Augustine John Wesley and Charles Wesley, the founders of 444 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: the Methodist movement that really took over and really evangelized 445 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: many people who were unchurched. And so these stories of 446 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 2: powerful leaders beginning in the prayers of their mothers, and 447 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: then we see that lineage of prayer being passed down 448 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: to the children, and so their children become ones who pray, 449 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: and then the Lord begins to work in their lives. 450 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: And so that's such a beautiful ripple. And I think 451 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: we can forget that when we pray for our kids. 452 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: We can just think, oh, we're just praying for them. 453 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: Maybe God will do something to help you know where we. 454 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: Are right now. 455 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: But you know, here at Million Praying Moms, we talk 456 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: about praying scripture for our kids, that we're not just 457 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: praying for our kids not to be angry. We're actually 458 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: gonna find the biblical opposite of angry. We're gonna find 459 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: joy in the scriptures, and we're going to write out 460 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: scripture about joy. And then I'm gonna go down and 461 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pray those scriptures over my kid, and I'm 462 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: gonna do it every day in the name. 463 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: Of this podcast, every day Prayers. 464 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: There's something about the every day coming that does something 465 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: in our children's hearts, also does something in our hearts 466 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: as moms. So I just love these examples that you 467 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: give here in this chapter because I think it's very 468 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: practical and that people can relate to. So for the 469 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: woman maybe who's listening today, Selene, and she's like, I 470 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: don't really have a practice of prayer, what's one tip 471 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: you can give her to get started. 472 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would just say acknowledge that you don't have 473 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: a practice, and then take that to the Lord and 474 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 4: just ask him, Lord, help me. You know, we have 475 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 4: prayers in the Bible like help my unbelief. God is 476 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: so ready and anxious and not anxious, ready and willing 477 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 4: and excited to answer honest, vulnerable prayers like that. So 478 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 4: if you do not have a habit of prayer, I 479 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 4: would say to you, the more you pray, the more 480 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 4: you want to pray, Amen, Because the more you go 481 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 4: to the Lord in prayer and you see how he 482 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: answers those prayers, the more you are excited to go 483 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: to him again and again and again because you see 484 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 4: how he's working children's life in your life and he's answering. 485 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just so I think I've shared this 486 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: with you before. But when my son was choosing colleges, 487 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: we were it was a really hard decision process for him, 488 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: and then for my husband and I as you were guide, 489 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 4: as we were guiding him, and I entered a season 490 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 4: of fasting and prayer for him. And God answered our 491 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 4: prayers in the most powerful ways and made it so clear. 492 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 4: And so when you start to see that, when you 493 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 4: start to see the fruit of your prayers, then you realize, wow, 494 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: I mean, just the evidence of God's work at hand 495 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 4: in your family's life, that alone will convince you to 496 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: continue to pray. So I would just encourage you just 497 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: start with a simple, a simple prayer, and it does 498 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: not have to be profound. The Bible tells us that 499 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: the Holy Spirit will intercede for us with groans and 500 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 4: utterings when we don't know what to pray. So you 501 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 4: can literally come to the Lord and say, God, I 502 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: don't know what to pray, that I'm here, would you 503 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: help me to pray? 504 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: Would you help me in my unbelief? 505 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 4: And He will in to that prayer and you will 506 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 4: just see that You're a desire for prayer continues to grow, 507 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 4: the words in prayer continue to grow, and you'll see 508 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: God's hand at work in your life. 509 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: Right right, man, That's so good. 510 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: We could just keep talking about this, but we are 511 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: out of time for today. So friends, we hope that 512 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: you have a really great rest of your week and weekend. 513 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: We're so glad that you're joining us in the whe 514 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: Mothering is hard and no one sees book club if 515 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: you are not reading along. I know that after listening 516 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: today you are going to want to get a copy 517 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: of this book. You can do so on our website 518 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: Million Praying Moms dot com backslash shop. You can use 519 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: the code Podcast twenty for twenty percent off of your 520 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 2: order of Shaline's book. And we just wish you the 521 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: best as you are putting what we're learning here in 522 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: to practice wherever you are this week, Maybe just start praying. 523 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: Let me pray for you, Jesus, We are so thankful 524 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: that you meet us where we are in our motherhood. God, 525 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: today I pray for opportunities of pulling the apron over 526 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: our heads. Would you help us to connect with you. 527 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: Would you remind us of the kingdom command that you 528 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: have given us and show us in our motherhood where 529 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: and how to connect with you so that we can 530 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: live on mission to go and tell, first in our 531 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: family and then to the world around us. 532 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: It's in your name, we pray Amen Hi. 533 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 2: Then I hope you are following along with us in 534 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 2: our summer book club featuring the book When Mothering Is 535 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: Hard and No One Sees by Scheline Roberts. If you 536 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: have not joined us yet, it's not too late to 537 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: jump in. Head to the homepage of our website to 538 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: find out more. Until next time, friends, the Lord bless 539 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 2: you and keep you. Make his face shine upon you, 540 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: and be gracious to you me. The Lord look with 541 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: favor on you, and give you his peace.