1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: The voice of free speech, the truth delivered common sense 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: for the American people. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 3: We've got some breaking news on the show today on 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: the subject of fraud. Congressman Jamie Comer from the House 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: Oversight Committee is joining us in just a few minutes. 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: You need to hear this special report on fraud in Minnesota. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 3: Sounds like they've called the law on some fraudsters up there. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: We'll have some news on the California elections. Oh boy, 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: where to start. I'll have some thoughts on the system 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: out there, but we know who the candidates for La 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 3: Mayor and California governor are going to be. And we'll 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: get back to NASA today. They've picked the astronauts for 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: the next step in the Artemis mission to eventually get 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: us back to the Moon. Our friend Bethany Stevens from 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: NASA comes by to tell us all about it. 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Today is Tuesday, June the ninth. 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: I'm Scott Jennings reporting for Salem Edward, broadcasting live today 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: from your nation's capital. First of all, I just jumped 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: in the chair here fresh off of a speech to 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: the American Foundry Society. Today, I want to thank my 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 3: friends there for the chance to address their annual DC 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: fly in about the politics of the day. Always good 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: to meet folks who make things, who truly make our 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: economy work on this day. By the way, nineteen seventy three, 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: let's hear cut five with that extraordinary win at the 27 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: Belmont Stake, Secretariat won the Triple Crown and dominating fashion, 28 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: setting the Belmont record at two minutes and twenty four seconds. 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: You know that horse set the record in all three 30 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: Triple Crown races that year. Did you know, by the way, 31 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: that in this year's Kentucky Derby, Secretariat was related to 32 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: nineteen of the twenty horses that made the field, Nineteen 33 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: out of twenty. Pretty incredible. As for today's news, it 34 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: is a Tuesday, and that means another round of primary 35 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: elections here in the United States. The twenty twenty six 36 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 3: mid terms are coming. Four states going to the polls 37 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: here Maine, Nevada, South Carolina, and North Dakota. In Maine, 38 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: Democrats are headed into the abyss with Graham Platner in 39 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: the Senate race. He seems all but assured to win 40 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: the Democratic nomination there, but it should be noted because 41 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: she herself has noted this many times. 42 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: Now. 43 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: Janet Mills is still on the ballot as a Democrat. 44 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 3: She's a sitting governor there. We'll see how many Democrats 45 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: cast a protest vote. 46 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: In that race. But it does seem like Platner is 47 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: going to win. 48 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: Now. 49 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: The latest polling in Maine shows the incumbent Republican Senator 50 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: Susan Collins slightly ahead of Platner. Democrats I think are 51 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: making a huge mistake here. We'll see what happens. Maine 52 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: also has a competitive primary for governor, about five candidates 53 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: running in each of the Democratic and Republican primaries. They 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: have ranked choice voting, so it may take several days 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: to get to the winner. There also Maine's second congressional district. 56 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: It's currently held by a moderate Democrat who is retiring, 57 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: so this is an open seat. Former Governor Paul Lepage 58 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: is the nominee for the Republicans, and there are several 59 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: Democrats running to replace Jared Golden up there. This seat 60 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: is rated as likely to flip to the Republican column. 61 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: Maine is a critical state for the Republicans if they 62 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: intend to hold their majorities in November. In either the 63 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: House or the Senate. Out in Nevada, a bruising primary 64 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: will reach its conclusion in the second Congressional district between 65 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: Lieutenant Colonel Dave Flippo, who is endorsed by President Trump, 66 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: and former state Legislator James Settlemeyer, who is endorsed by 67 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: the governor out there, Joe Lombardo. This is the one 68 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: solidly Republican congressional seat in Nevada. And speaking of Governor Lombardo, 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: he will be nominated for a second term and he's 70 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: running against Democrat Attorney General Aaron Ford. That race is 71 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: rated as lean Republican. Finally, down in South Carolina, they've 72 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: got a big ticket primary for governor and it's going 73 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 3: to reach its first major benchmark tonight. The primary of 74 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: numerous candidates will be whittled down to just two who 75 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: will then head to a June twenty third runoff election. 76 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: Lieutenant Governor Pamela Yvette has the endorsement of President Trump 77 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: and of Governor Henry McMaster. She seems quite likely to 78 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: make the runoffs. So other candidates here are the state 79 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: Attorney General Alan Wilson and Congressman Ralph Norman and Nancy Mace. 80 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: They're all running together. 81 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: Polling has been very close, true, a toss up outcome 82 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 3: in the Republican primary for governor in the Palmetto state. 83 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: You know, they still haven't finished counting the ballots in 84 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: California's jungle primary, which was held on June the second, 85 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: But last night, major news outlets project that in Los 86 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: Angeles in the mayor's race, that sitting LA Mayor Karen 87 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: Bass will face off against city council member and socialist 88 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: Nithya Rahman in the runoff. Now, those two emerge from 89 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: a crowded all party primary field that included former reality 90 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: TV star Spencer Pratt, who's arrested Republican. He ran an 91 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: insurgent campaign criticizing Bass for her response to the LA 92 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: wildfires last year. Pratt was in second place for the 93 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: longest time, but they kept counting the ballots in California 94 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: and finally Pratt was pushed down to third and out 95 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: of the race. California voting system, well, it's really something. 96 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: You have millions of mail in ballots sent to people 97 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: who didn't ask for them, no voter idd Ballot harvesting 98 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: is legal, where strangers come to your house and help 99 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: you fill out your ballot, then they take it and 100 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: they turn it in for you. Some people say there's 101 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: fraud going on here. Here's my view. LA is a 102 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: democratic town in a state with a long history of 103 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 3: picking terrible people, of re electing people who've done a 104 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: terrible job. Here's how I called it on CNN last night, 105 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 3: cut number six. 106 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: The system's crazy. 107 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: I mean, if you wanted to design a system to 108 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: make people question the results every year, to make people 109 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: wonder if there was any funny business going on, you 110 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: would design it precisely as they have designed it in California. 111 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: But as he pointed out, it's legal today. I don't 112 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: think the ballot harvesting ought to be legal. I think 113 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 3: vote by mail is inherently less secure than voting in person. 114 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: You're counting all these ballots for weeks and weeks. It's 115 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it does lead to a lot of questions. 116 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 3: But do I think it's fraudulent on its face that 117 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: a Republican didn't get more than twenty five percent of 118 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: the vote and a mayor's race in La. 119 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: No, it's not inherent I'm not surprised at all. 120 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 3: I mean, California routinely picks the literal worst people in 121 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: the world to run the state in the cities they 122 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: have done that in this case, that does not seem 123 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: to be a shocking outcome to me, said, it kind 124 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: of stinks that it takes so long to count the ballots. 125 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: I think ballot harvesting stinks. 126 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: And I think vote by mail and mailing out millions 127 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: of ballots to people who have never asked for one, 128 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that all does absolutely stink. 129 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: Is that the same as fraud? 130 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: No, But I do think it's a legitimate conversation about 131 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: whether he's election laws in California. I mean, if you 132 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: want to have more confidence and elections, he would scrap 133 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: this entire pile of garbage law and start over with someone. 134 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: Did you know by the way that my friend Rob Pires, 135 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: he did the math on this, and you look in 136 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: the governor's race in California. By the way, they've determined 137 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: that Democrat Xavier Bessera and Republican Steve Hilton are going 138 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: to make the runoff, so you will have a Republican 139 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: running for governor of California. But Rob Pires did the 140 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: math on this that I'm styre one of the Democratic 141 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: candidates will have spent nearly five hundred and fifty eight 142 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: million dollars on his previous run for president in twenty 143 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: twenty four and his run for governor of California in 144 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. Five hundred and fifty eight million dollars 145 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: on two races. What does he have to show for it? 146 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: Zero delegates for president and finishing third in the gubernatorial contest. 147 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: Five hundred and fifty eight million dollars and nothing to 148 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: show for it now is political consultants. Well, we'll hope 149 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: they enjoy their beach houses in their Lamborghinis. 150 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: Iran News. By the way, this just in. 151 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: The President says the United States must respond to Iran's 152 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: latest provocation, which was shooting down an Apache helicopter that 153 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 3: was patrolling in the Strait of Horror Moves. 154 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: Two pilots were in there. 155 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: Both have been rescued safely, but this incident feels like 156 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,479 Speaker 3: a setback in the pursuit of an agreement to end hostilities. 157 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: We have a pack show for you today, as I said, 158 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: James Comer, Major news on fraud in Minnesota. 159 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Craig Fuller is going to be here. 160 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: We'll have an illuminating conversation on how artificial intelligence is 161 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: impacting American manufacturing. 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And 222 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: to break it down, we have the chairman of the 223 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: House Oversight Committee joining us live right now, Jamie Comer 224 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: of Kentucky Congressman. Thanks for being here. This is shocking 225 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: information that you have uncovered, and as I understand it, 226 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 3: law enforcement is now involved. 227 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: Tell us about it. 228 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 229 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: This report is based on many hours of transcribed inner 230 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 5: views with Minnesota state employees, as well as some depositions, 231 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 5: plus emails and correspondence. And what we determined with evidence 232 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: is that Tim Waltz and Attorney General Keith Elson knew 233 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: four years about the massive amounts of fraud. 234 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 4: And what we're talking about here, Scott, is. 235 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 5: Three hundred million dollars in food benefit fraud and at 236 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 5: least one billion dollars in other types of welfare fraud. 237 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 5: The basis for this report was testimony from nine different 238 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 5: Minnesota state employees. Career state employees, most of whom were 239 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 5: all retro Democrat. They did exactly what they were supposed 240 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 5: to do with state employees. They found the fraud and 241 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 5: they reported it to their superiors. But when they got 242 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 5: to the point of telling the Attorney General and the 243 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 5: governor time after time, the governor turned a blind eye. 244 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 4: And at a certain point he. 245 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 5: Got frustrated because the state employees would continue to blow 246 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 5: the whistle on this fraud, and he turned to retaliation. 247 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 5: He actually spent tax dollars to hire investigators to follow 248 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 5: them around and harass the state employees to try to 249 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 5: intimidate and deter them from doing their job with respect 250 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 5: to reporting fraud. 251 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: So you've uncovered this in the Oversight Committee, and you've 252 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: been working with Vice President Vance's Anti Fraud task Force, 253 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: and tell us about those communications, and then what has 254 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: the task force done with this information that you've uncovered today. 255 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: I have to brag on Vice President Vance. 256 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 5: He created this fraud task Force there on the ground 257 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 5: we speak in Minnesota. They've already arrested dozens of fraudsters 258 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 5: that were involved in various types of welfare fraud schemes 259 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 5: in Minnesota. They're putting a case together to arrest dozens more. 260 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: We have been in communityation with that fraud Task Force 261 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 5: ever since its start, and we passed the report to them, 262 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 5: and Vice President Vance read the report, and to his credit, 263 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 5: he immediately referred Governor Waltz to the Department of Justice 264 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 5: for a criminal investigation. And I know the Department Justice 265 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 5: will use as the basis for their investigation our report, 266 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 5: which again compiled many hours of transcribed interviews with credible 267 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 5: government employees who testified to Congress and if you lie 268 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: to Congress Scott, that's a felony, and they knew that. 269 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 5: So I think that this is the first step in accountability. 270 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 5: We know many of the fraudsters are being held accountable 271 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: as we speak, but I don't think these governors in 272 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 5: these states that continue to turn a blight out of 273 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 5: fraud are ever going to change their ways unless someone 274 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 5: is tell the accountable. And Chim walt is first in 275 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 5: line because of what Vice. 276 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: President Vance did with our report. 277 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 5: Hopefully the Department Justice can hold him accountable and Governor 278 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 5: Waltz can have his day in court. 279 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: Congressman Jamie Comer of Kentucky is our guest. The breaking 280 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: news here is that the House Oversight Committee has uncovered 281 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: evidence that whistleblowers and the Minnesota state government. We're telling 282 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: the governor's office and telling the state Attorney General about 283 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars of fraudile and activity, and 284 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: both the governor and the Attorney general turned a blind 285 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: eye toward it and in fact may have intimidated. 286 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Some of these whistleblowers. 287 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: Vice President Vance was asked about this in an interview 288 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: just last night. 289 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: Let's hear from the Vice President and cut number eight. 290 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 6: You had people within Governor Waltz's office who were saying, 291 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 6: you know what this looks like fraud. It looks like 292 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 6: these somal illegal immigrants are doing something that's very shady. 293 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: And then you had. 294 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 6: People who shut them down, who shut these blowers down 295 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 6: and said, you know, you're a racist or you're a xenophobe. 296 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: Congressman Comber, we've got about thirty seconds. I'll give you 297 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: the last word on this. I know this is a 298 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 3: significant report. Is there more to come from your committee? 299 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 4: Absolutely, We're on the ground in Minnesota. 300 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 5: We've been doing investigations in California pertaining to hospice fraud. 301 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 5: We've expanded this to Ohio with medicaid fraud there. 302 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: We're about to roll into New York. 303 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 5: So anywhere we get credible information of any type of 304 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 5: fraud with government tax fair dollars, we're going in there 305 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 5: and hopefully we'll have more government employees come forward like 306 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 5: they did in Minnesota and help us be able to 307 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 5: progress our investigation and hopefully hold some people accountable. 308 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: Congressman Jamie Comber Kentucky's first district. 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Slash America 341 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: Saving Western civilization. 342 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: One trusted leftist narrative at a time, It's the Scott 343 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: Jenny Show. 344 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: Indeed we are saving it here on Tuesday, June the ninth, 345 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 3: Scott Jennings Broadcasting for Salem. 346 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us today. 347 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: I have to say we must be in the campaign 348 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: season because I couldn't help but notice, and haven't been 349 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: able to stop noticing that the Democratic Party has all 350 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: of a sudden realized that the people that they are 351 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: nominating for various offices have said a bunch of stuff 352 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: that simply will not fly in a general election. You 353 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 3: may have heard me and others warning them about this 354 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: for months on end, particularly down in the state of Texas, 355 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: where they have nominated James Tallerco to run for the 356 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: United States Senate. His Republican opponent is Ken Paxton. James Tallerco. 357 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: It's one of these Democrats out there that they are 358 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: going to try to have to convince voters never held, 359 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: never held, never said, never believed, a bunch of crazy 360 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: things that would be anathma to voters in the state 361 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: of Texas. The exact same thing, by the way, happened 362 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: when Kamala Harris was running for president in twenty twenty four. 363 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: Republicans noticed, people noticed that she had said a bunch 364 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: of crazy stuff when she ran briefly for president in 365 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. They began using those clips of the twenty 366 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: twenty four campaign, and a concerted propaganda effort was made 367 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 3: to convince you that Kamala Harris never said any of this. Well, 368 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: this is happening again, and I want to go through 369 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: some of it in Texas, maybe in a couple of 370 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 3: other places in Texas. They care about the Second Amendment. 371 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: What has James Tallerco said about the Second Amendment? 372 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Well, he said, quote. 373 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: Having guns encourages violence against black sons and black daughters, 374 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: and he led legislation restricting handgun sales, and he tried 375 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: to prevent Texas from being a constitutional carry state. Let's 376 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: hear him in his own words. 377 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 7: Cut nine encourages violence against black sons and black daughters. 378 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: They cantor took their loved ones. 379 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 7: When the president allows weapons of war on our streets 380 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 7: and in our classrooms. President Trump is the anti family candidate. 381 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 7: As long as he's in office, all of our families 382 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 7: are under threat. 383 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: James Tallerico says that. 384 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: Because President Trump and Republicans ostensibly believe in the Second Amendment, 385 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: they're a threat to everybody that was then what's James 386 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: Tallerrico saying today, because he's now running for the US 387 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: Senate and they are in total panic mode. Let's hear 388 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: that cut number ten. I am a believer in the 389 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: Second Amendment. I don't pick and choose between the Bill 390 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: of Rights. I believe in the Second Amendment just as 391 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: much as I believe in the First. We have a 392 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: right to bear arms to protect ourselves our families. We 393 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: have a right to own weapons for sport or for hunting. 394 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: But like any freedom in the Bill of Rights, it's 395 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 3: not absolute. Okay, you heard it. James tall Rico then 396 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 3: and now on the Second Amendment? Are you inclined to 397 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 3: believe that he's had a change of heart and now says, hey, 398 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: do whatever you want under the Second Amendment. I am 399 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 3: not inclined to believe that. Let's pick an up topic. 400 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: How about I don't know, gender reassignment surgeries. James Tallerico, 401 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: by the way, a state representative in Texas he wants, 402 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: voted against a bill that would have banned trans surgeries 403 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: for kids in Texas. And he once gave an interview 404 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: when the podcaster said, what is something that you love? 405 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: Open ended? What is something that you love? James Tallerico 406 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: then had this to say, cut eleven. 407 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: Something that you love that's not family or friends I love. 408 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it because it's on my mind. The 409 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: trans children who showed. 410 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 8: Up yesterday at the state capitol to advocate for their humanity. 411 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: They shouldn't have to, but it was an inspiration to watch. 412 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: Totally open ended. He could have picked anything in the world. 413 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: He could have picked baseball. He could have picked ice cream, 414 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 3: he could have picked apple pie. He could have picked 415 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: climbing a tree. You know what was on James Tallerico's 416 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 3: mind trans kids kids that back then he wanted to 417 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 3: see undergo gender mutilation surgery. Now the rebrand is underway. 418 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: Tall Rico this week Cut twelve. 419 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 9: You know, James, I hear consistent tropes about you being 420 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 9: way too liberal for Texas, that your pro sex surgery 421 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 9: for miners, and on and on and on. 422 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: How do you respond to. 423 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 9: That, Well, just on that particular accusation, I oppose gender 424 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 9: reassignment surgeries for miners. 425 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: They did this with Kamala, by the way, she was 426 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: as pro gender reassignment surgery for miners and inmates and 427 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: anybody else they could get their hands on. They tried 428 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 3: to claim that she never said those things, that she 429 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: would never have had those views. They're doing the same 430 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: thing with tall Rico. Where do you think his heart 431 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: actually is? Though his heart is really center cut for 432 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: the modern Democratic Party. Of course they are in thrall 433 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: to the trans gender cult. Don't be fooled. Let's pick 434 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 3: another topic. 435 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's say Green New Deal. 436 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: Then State Representative tallar Rico introduced a bill in the 437 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: Texas legislature to eliminate the oil and gas industry in Texas. 438 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 3: You might know oil and gas in Texas is a 439 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: very niche, tiny part of their economy. He wanted to 440 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: eliminate it. Why let's hear it from him in his 441 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 3: own words. Cut thirteen. 442 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 8: You can't call yourself with Christian and destroy God's creation 443 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 8: with greenhouse gases. 444 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: Okay, So James Tallarico says, you can't be a Christian 445 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: and support or work in the oil and gas industry 446 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: in Texas. This is of course a major political problem 447 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: if you're running for the US Senate in Texas. But 448 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: now the b rebrand is here. Tallarico today, Cut fourteen. 449 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 9: We have to protect good paying oil and gas jobs. 450 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 9: You know, I've had family members who have worked in 451 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 9: the oil and gas industry. I went to Texas public 452 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 9: schools funded by Texas oil and Gas. 453 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: So I owe a lot to the industry. 454 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 9: And I know that some of these jobs keep whole 455 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 9: families for float and so I want to protect our 456 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 9: status as an energy leader here in Texas. 457 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 3: I mean, they are completely and totally trying to I 458 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 3: guess hope that people of Texas don't have televisions, radios, internet, 459 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: because you can't say that today and hold the views 460 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 3: that James Tallerico held you can't be a Christian and 461 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: support oil and gas, just not that long ago. He 462 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: hasn't been on the scene that long. Let's pick another topic. 463 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, how about the border. What is James 464 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: Tallarico said about immigration and border security. 465 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: Let's go to then cut seventeen. 466 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 9: How do you balance your feelness toward Ice versus the 467 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 9: people you would represent who support deporting on documented immigrants. 468 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 9: You have thirty seconds. So my family from the border. 469 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 9: My mom grew up in Laredo, Texas. I feel like 470 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 9: Texans understand this issue of immigration more so than people 471 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 9: in other states because we live with it, both the 472 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 9: benefits and the challenges. So what I've said is that 473 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 9: our southern border should be like our front course. There 474 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 9: should be a giant welcome Matt out front and a 475 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 9: lock on the door. We can welcome immigrants who want 476 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 9: to live the American dream. 477 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 8: We can build a pathway to citizenship for those neighbors 478 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 8: who have been here and it's making us richer and stronger, 479 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 8: and we can keep out people who mean to do 480 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 8: us harm. 481 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: Okay, that was James Tallerico just in the primary earlier 482 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 3: this year. Welcome Matt at the southern border instead of 483 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: a fence or a wall. I guess now though James Tallerico, well, 484 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: he says he's got a new position on the border. 485 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: Let's hear that cut sixteen. 486 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 9: I called out Joe Biden for failing to secure our 487 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 9: southern border, and I got a lot of heat in 488 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 9: my own party for doing that. But I remember talking 489 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 9: with my colleagues and the legislature who represent border communities, 490 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 9: and they told me about the utter chaos caused by 491 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 9: President Biden's policies, and the Democratic Party we're the ones 492 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 9: that should be about making government work for people, and 493 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 9: our immigration system is a prime example of government not 494 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 9: working for people. And so I'm a border security Democrat. 495 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 9: I believe we've got to have a sane, orderly process 496 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 9: to ensure that we know who's coming into our country. 497 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: A border security Democrat. 498 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 3: If you believe that I've got some vegan stakes that 499 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: I'll sell you, I guess. But it's not just Tallarico 500 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: who they are scrambling to rebrand down in Texas. There 501 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: are lots of Democratic candidates who are going through this 502 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: process right now of become You know, they're not talented 503 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: at much, but many of them are talented actors. That's 504 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: tall Rico's principal talent. He's an actor. He was acting 505 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: like a progressive liberal. Now he's trying to act like 506 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: a moderate. It's happening in other races around the country. 507 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: Let's go to Colorado where they have a competitive of 508 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 3: congressional race. There in the eighth district, there is a 509 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: Democratic candidate named Manny Rootinel first changing his tune about agriculture. 510 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: Let's hear that and cut number three. 511 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 10: You told the Yale Big Egg and Antitrust Conference in 512 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 10: twenty twenty one that quote, the factory farming of animals 513 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 10: is one of the largest sources of suffering on the planet. 514 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 10: You also said, quote animal agriculture is a horrific exploitative industry. 515 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: Feel free to taking a minute on of this. 516 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 10: Do you still believe what you said and how will 517 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 10: that affect the way. 518 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: That you lead? Look, farmers and ranchers are my friends. 519 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 11: I've been honored to be supported by United farm Workers, 520 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 11: United Food and Commercial Workers, which represents the meat packers 521 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 11: over at GPS in Greeley. 522 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: I will always fight for our ranchers and farmers. 523 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 11: And right now, Donald Trump and Gabe Evans are creating 524 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 11: terrible conditions for them with their chaotic and corrupt tariff policies. 525 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 10: Would you mind answering the question, though, whether you still 526 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 10: believe the animal agriculture is a horrific, exploited time industry 527 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 10: and Colorado rinchers and farmers are the envy of the world. 528 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 11: They have the best practices, the most sustainable practice. They 529 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 11: produce the best product. I will always fight for them. 530 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: Now going to let him get away with it out 531 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: there sounds like, at least for one reporter in Colorado. 532 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: How about Michigan? 533 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 3: Where are the leading Democratic candidate for Senate, Abdua Lsied, 534 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: has been caught deleting thousands upon thousands of tweets where 535 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: he said crazy things. He's been confronted about that. Let's 536 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: hear that cut number seven. 537 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 12: I want to ask you as well, because my colleagues 538 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 12: at k File here at stand and found that you 539 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 12: had deleted thousands of old posts on x on Twitter 540 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 12: sometime before launching your senate campaign. Some of those posts 541 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 12: included messages that said the champion to the defund the 542 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 12: police movement described the police as quote standing armies. 543 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: Why did you take this post down? Well, let me just. 544 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 10: Speak to a vision for public safety that I think 545 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 10: all of us can agree with. 546 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: I think all of us want to be safe. We 547 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: want to know that we can get home safely. 548 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: We don't want to worry about being the victim of 549 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 3: somebody's violence, whether it's from a neighbor or the state itself. 550 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: Abdul l Sied is from the most radical, liberal progressive 551 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: wing of the Democratic Party. 552 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: One of their motivating issues. 553 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: Is defund the police. He has been for defund the 554 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: police his entire career, right up until now when he 555 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: thinks he's going to be the nominee for Senate in Michigan, 556 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: and they've realized you can't run on defund the police 557 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: in a purple state like Michigan. Time and time and 558 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: time again. 559 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: We see this. 560 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: People who hold in their hearts, in their heart of 561 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: hearts are the most liberal, progressive, radical Democrats you can 562 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: think of, using their talent for acting to try to 563 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: convince you, Oh no, no, I'm a moderate. I couldn't 564 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: possibly be the radical that they portray me. As my 565 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: advice for the American people, use your common sense, don't 566 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: fall for it. Scott Jennings is broadcasting to you today 567 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: on Salem I do want to give you a message 568 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: about something that the bureaucrats in Washington don't really want 569 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 3: to talk about, and that is this Alzheimer's is becoming 570 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: an economic time bomb and our country is simply not ready. 571 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: Cases are on track to nearly double to fourteen million 572 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: by twenty sixty. This will put pressure on the families affected, 573 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: our national workforce, and the already strained Medicare and Medicaid programs. 574 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: Here's the part that needs to get your attention. American 575 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: families are shouldering most of the burden. They cover seventy 576 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: percent of the lifetime costs for an Alzheimer's patients, about 577 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: four hundred grand. Our competitors aren't standing still. China is 578 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: actually working on this. They're aggressively expanding early diagnosis and treatment. 579 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: But here in the US, there is still work to 580 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: be done, still work to be done. We have to 581 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 3: turn this around. Four and five voters say they'll support 582 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: candidates who prioritize better access to Alzheimer's detection. That would 583 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: be good for fear families, good for the economy, and frankly, 584 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: it just makes a lot of common sense. 585 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: To learn more. 586 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: Join the fight at Market Institute Dot org. That's Marketinstitute 587 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: dot org. More after this, it's Scott Jennings on Salem. 588 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: Stay with us conversation said stories you simply won't hear 589 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: from the mainstream media. 590 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: It's the Scott Jenny Show. 591 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: Well, one topic is generating a lot of conversation in 592 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: America's heartland that has to do with AI data centers. 593 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 3: As AI data centers and the industrial boom around AI 594 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: spurring this debate. One thing is becoming clear AI just 595 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: may offer the chance for a revival of manufacturing in 596 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: the heartland. Joining me to discuss this, Craig Fuller, author 597 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: of a recent article about this very topic. Craig is 598 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 3: CEO of Freight Waves and has some unique technology tracking 599 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: of this heartland revival. Craig, welcome to the show. Tell 600 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: us you've been analyzing this. What is the data showing 601 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: us about the AI impact on manufacturing renaissance in the 602 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: United States? 603 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: Well, reinduentrializations here, it's happening. 604 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 13: We've been seeing it really since November, so I think 605 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 13: the market had to sort of swallow the tariff impact, 606 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 13: sort of the change in trade policy that was last year. 607 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 13: But since November we've seen the factories and the industrials. 608 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 1: Absolutely rip. 609 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 13: It's the first time we've been tracking this data for 610 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 13: ten years. I've been around my whole life, but this 611 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 13: is a very different economy. We're seeing it we made 612 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 13: right in front of our eyes, where the center of 613 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 13: the country, the old Rust Bill, sort of what we 614 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 13: think is the dying part of the United States is 615 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 13: coming to live in ways that we haven't seen ever 616 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 13: since we tried our data. So we're seeing in the 617 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 13: middle of the country really originate the freight versus dependent 618 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 13: upon previously dependent upon the coast. 619 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: And so it's a really exciting time. 620 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 13: AI data centers are having a substantial impact, and because 621 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 13: of the tax incentives that we got through the Big 622 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 13: Beautiful Bill, a lot of that investment is taking place 623 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 13: in US factories, in US production. 624 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: All Right, I live in Louisville, Kentucky. You're just outside 625 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 3: of it. We see a lot of freight come and go. Now, 626 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 3: if I understand this correctly, you have this sonar technology 627 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: that is tracking what the freight is. So tell me 628 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: how is AI transforming freight? What are these trucks carrying 629 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 3: and how much of it is going through a place 630 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 3: like Louisvillehere, I. 631 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 13: Am well the numbers are staggering. So just to build 632 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 13: a data center, we're not talking about GPUs, But to 633 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 13: put this in perspective, there are seven hundred billion dollars 634 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 13: of AI data center construction that would be deployed this year. 635 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 13: To make that equivalence, the largest infrastructure build in history 636 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 13: is the Interstate Highway System. They deployed about twenty billion 637 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 13: dollars a year to build that out, seven hundred billion 638 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 13: over thirty five years. The AI data centers, these hyper 639 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 13: skealars are doing that every two weeks. 640 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: The amount of money is staggering. 641 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 13: I think what's the most exciting is the Interstate Highway System. 642 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 13: The largest infrastructure built in history was funded by federal 643 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 13: tax dollars in the federal government. 644 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: Really important to have that structure. 645 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 13: What we're seeing with AI data centers as private companies, 646 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 13: the most wealthiest, richest companies in the history of mankind 647 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 13: are taking capital and putting into our economy, and it's 648 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 13: creating demand for construction materials, creating demand for things like steel, 649 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 13: HVAC systems, cooling systems, transmission lines, copper, you name it, 650 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 13: and a lot of that's coming from US factories. 651 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: It's really a profound time in history. 652 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've read your article, and according to your technology, 653 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 3: one standard five hundred megawatt data center needs thirty thousand 654 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: truckloads of material like copper, concrete, and steel. And you 655 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 3: got to what My next question is these materials, This 656 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: stuff that goes into an AI data center that's coming 657 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 3: out of US factories. So I guess if you're somebody 658 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 3: out there who's been I don't know about these data centers. 659 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of things. One thing to know 660 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: here this true or false. 661 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 3: Data centers are spurring a manufacturing renaissance on basic building blocks. 662 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean that that's true. 663 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 13: Yes, yeah, absolutely, And I think it's something that you know, 664 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 13: as long as we don't, you know, give up for nimbiaism. 665 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 13: And you see a lot of these a lot of 666 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 13: noise out there trying to decommission or block data centers 667 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 13: from being built. I mean, we think about the kinds 668 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 13: of economy that we want. It's all driven by electricity, 669 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 13: by power and data. 670 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: This is infrastructure. This is infrastructure for the future. 671 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 13: Economy, and it's driving this manufacturing renaissance that we haven't 672 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 13: seen in decades. This is doing more than any trade 673 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 13: policy would ever do, because it's actually creating demand of 674 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 13: the United States, and we're going to get our turn 675 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 13: on investment in the terms of new industry, new infrastructure, 676 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 13: new answers to disease, and ways that we haven't seen. 677 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: But it is happening. It's driving. 678 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 13: Investment in blue collar industries and factories and trucking and railroads. 679 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: They're all beneficiaries of it. 680 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 13: Were so blessed to the United States that we have 681 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 13: the ability to make these big investments. 682 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: Craig Fuller, I'll give you the last word ten seconds. 683 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: A lot of the negative information that we're seeing about 684 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 3: AI and data centers, it's coming in people's social media 685 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 3: feed you can't ignore it. Is it coming in some 686 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 3: way from China and other overseas competitors that simply don't 687 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 3: want us to succeed in this endeavor. 688 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 13: Absolutely, they want to shut down investment. They did the 689 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 13: same thing to Germany and decommissioned power plants and destroyed 690 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 13: the industrial might of Germany. It's happening in the US. 691 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 13: We've seen decarbonization do this fall the same form. We 692 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 13: have to be careful to know the importance of our infrastructure, 693 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 13: and the importance is going to place in our economy. 694 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,959 Speaker 3: Craig Fuller is the CEO of Freight Waves, a font 695 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 3: of information about the AI boom and data center construction. 696 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 3: More after this on Salem to stay with us, Well, 697 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 3: we're here. On Tuesday, June the ninth, quick checking the headlines, 698 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 3: the US trade deficit has dropped again in April, beating 699 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 3: expectations of economic forecasters, with exports of goods and services 700 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 3: hitting their highest point on record, in large part due 701 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 3: to petroleum and material supply exports. Trade devis has now 702 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: fallen thirty two percent since May of twenty twenty five. 703 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 3: That was in delivering on President Trump's promise of putting 704 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 3: the American worker first. Vice President Jade Vance has referred 705 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 3: the Governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls, and that state's Attorney General, 706 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: Keith Ellison, to the Department of Justice's Fraud Division for 707 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: a criminal investigation. This came after a report from the 708 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 3: House Committee on Oversight. The Oversight committee there run by 709 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 3: Jamie Comer. We highlighted it earlier in the show. Comer 710 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 3: says they have uncovered evidence that Tim Walls and Keith 711 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 3: Ellison turned a blind eye to or in some cases 712 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 3: intimidated whistleblowers who were trying to stop the massive fraud 713 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 3: that was going on up in Minnesota. And we have 714 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 3: news on voter registration on two fronts today. First news 715 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 3: is about on citizens on the voter rolls. Second bit 716 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 3: is about Republican voter registration trends. To discuss these two stories, 717 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 3: as Casey Crosby, National co Chair of the Republican National 718 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 3: Committee KC, Democrats often claim, there's no evidence of non 719 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 3: citizens or illegal aliens attempting to vote in our elections. 720 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: But you all have been covered another example of a 721 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: blue state where non citizens have been discovered on the 722 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 3: voter rolls. Tell us what's the story in New Jersey. 723 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 14: Yeah, listen, we have a great state chairman in New Jersey, 724 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 14: Christine Hamlin, who also happens to be a county clerk 725 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 14: of Monmouth County, and she discovered a lot of this 726 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 14: and uncovered it, worked with the state party, reported it. 727 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 14: But you know, we've known this all along, Scott. The 728 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 14: Republican National Committee has forty eight freedom of information request 729 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 14: out to different states across the country trying to get 730 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 14: the voter roles because we have to make sure that 731 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 14: we have only American citizens on and of course not 732 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 14: dead people. And so we've been on the offense making 733 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 14: sure that these voter rules are clean. But I mean 734 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 14: New Jersey just a perfect example. And thankfully we have 735 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 14: a good state chairman like Christine who is able to 736 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 14: recognize that bring it to our attention, and it's proof, 737 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 14: and it's what we have been saying all along is 738 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 14: going on. So it's nice when you've got someone who 739 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 14: can show the proof. 740 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 741 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 3: I was looking at the story on this case and 742 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 3: that it says here that we had non citizens on 743 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 3: the voter rolls in New Jersey and in other Blue 744 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,479 Speaker 3: states for years, and the report is is that some 745 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: of them even. 746 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: Voted in prior elections. 747 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 3: And this was according to documents that you all had 748 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 3: obtained via public records request. So this was the New 749 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 3: Jersey Republican Party working with the Republican National Committee, and 750 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 3: you requested the voter roles from all twenty one counties 751 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 3: there in New Jersey. Multiple instances of non citizens seeking 752 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 3: naturalization who were asking to be removed from the voter 753 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,479 Speaker 3: rolls and claiming unknowingly that they were registered to vote. 754 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 3: Most were registered as Democrats. So you have non citizens 755 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 3: who are claiming they wound up on the voter rolls. 756 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 3: They don't know how some of them voted in elections, 757 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 3: and most of them were Democrats. I mean, this is 758 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 3: what's in the documents. What's that tell you, Casey? 759 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 12: I mey, go. 760 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 14: Figure it tells us exactly what we think has been 761 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 14: going on. There's been cheating, and that's why it's so 762 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 14: important and one of President Trump's main goals with the 763 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 14: Republican National Committees to make sure that we are fighting 764 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 14: election integrity on all fronts. And so we know these 765 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 14: things are going on, and like I said, under President 766 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 14: Trump and Chairman Gruders, we are on the offense making 767 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 14: sure that we are getting these voter roles cleaned up 768 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 14: and making sure that we work tirelessly to get the 769 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 14: Save America Act passed. I mean, we have the RNC 770 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 14: Landmark case, the RNC versus Watson right now that's dealing 771 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 14: with mail in ballots, and we're election day should end 772 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 14: on election day, So we are on the offense and 773 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 14: election to and making sure that these voter rules are 774 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 14: cleaned up is a top priority not only to President 775 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 14: Trump but to the Republican National Committee. 776 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 3: Casey, is it your belief that things like this what 777 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 3: you've uncovered in New Jersey here, is it your belief 778 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 3: that this is going on in virtually every blue state, 779 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: maybe even in some red states that have you know, 780 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 3: blue states, I don't know. I think the average person 781 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 3: looks at these stories say well, is this an isolated item. 782 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 1: Or is this probably more systemic or widespread? What's your view? 783 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 14: Well, I think it's probably a little bit more systemic 784 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 14: and widespread than maybe what we know or would like 785 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 14: to believe. I mean, certainly, you look at what's going 786 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 14: on in California. Now, why does it take weeks to 787 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 14: count the votes and to get these candidates through the primaries? 788 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 14: I mean, and you just look at the even like 789 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 14: the fraud you just mentioned in Minnesota leading in I mean, 790 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 14: we see things wrong in all these blue states, and 791 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 14: so it leads you to believe that there's just a 792 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 14: lot of different things going on that need to be tackled. 793 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 14: And thank god we have President Trump who's willing to 794 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 14: take on these battles across the board. But you know, 795 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 14: I have to believe that it's happening in a lot 796 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 14: of states. I'd like to believe it's not happening in 797 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 14: red states. You know, we're blessed in Kentucky. I know 798 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 14: the state that both of us are from, that we 799 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 14: have a great Secretary of State who is an election 800 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 14: integrity lawyer, and we think we do things pretty good here. 801 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 14: But yeah, we certainly see a trend across a lot 802 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 14: of our blue states. 803 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 3: Casey Crosby is the national co chair of the Republican 804 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 3: National Committee. She's our special news guest here at the 805 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 3: top of the two o'clock hour today. Casey, there was 806 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 3: some other information that came out about voter registration yesterday. 807 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to run by you A new. 808 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 3: District by district voter registration analysis across twenty eight battleground 809 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 3: congressional districts shows that Republicans are rapidly gaining ground while 810 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 3: Democrats are continuing to lose support. The report, Casey says 811 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 3: that since twenty twenty four, Republicans have gained more than 812 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty nine thousand and voters relative to 813 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 3: Democrats across these twenty eight districts. That's about a one 814 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 3: and a half point shift towards the Republicans in just 815 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 3: over a year. A. 816 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: Why do you think this is? And B? 817 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 3: What is the Republican National Committee doing on the voter 818 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 3: registration front right now to take advantage of these trends. 819 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 3: People are obviously wanting to sign up with the Republicans 820 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 3: more than the Democrats right now. 821 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 14: I mean are we surprised? I mean the Democrat Party. 822 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 14: I mean when you look at where they are, they're 823 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 14: like Looney Tune left right now, with leaders like Mom, 824 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 14: Donnie aoc elon Omar and m a few. I mean, 825 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 14: they've gone completely left. We saw during twenty twenty four 826 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 14: President Trump and the promises he made during his campaign 827 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 14: all were geared towards helping the American family, American people, 828 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 14: and we've seen his policies working. And so during twenty 829 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 14: twenty four, he grew in every single demographic across whether 830 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 14: it was Blacks, Hispanics, women, males, youth, and so he 831 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 14: grew the vote. And we've been working tireless at the 832 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 14: Republican National Committee to make sure that we build on 833 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 14: those games that he made. And it goes back to 834 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 14: working very strongly with our state parties. I think last 835 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 14: week or the week before, the Democrats released their autopsy 836 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 14: report on what went wrong in twenty twenty four. Well, 837 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 14: we all know they had a terrible president. They didn't 838 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 14: even mention him in that report. They annoyed Kamala Harris 839 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 14: as their nominee without getting one primary vote, and you know, 840 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 14: and we just see that they're in complete disarray. They 841 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 14: can't even they can't they can't even admit it, let alone. 842 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 14: You see where they were saying that Joe Biden was 843 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 14: fit to be president, and here we have his wife 844 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 14: out on a book tour now saying that she thought 845 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,439 Speaker 14: he had a stroke during the debate. I mean, they're 846 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 14: telling us exactly who they are, and the voters are 847 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 14: believing them, and they're switching to the Republican Party, and 848 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 14: we're picking up new voters. And we feel very good 849 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 14: going into the midterms about where we stand. And as 850 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 14: you mentioned, we looked at target districts. The NRCC looked 851 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 14: at target districts. And these mid terms are going to 852 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 14: be one, as you know, in a few states across 853 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 14: the country. And so that's why it's critically important that 854 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 14: we see these switches and registrations. It's setting up for 855 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,240 Speaker 14: the perfect storm for us going into the midterms. 856 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think these voter registration numbers run a little 857 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 3: contrary to the narrative in the national media that somehow 858 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 3: the sky is falling for Republican electoral prospects may not 859 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 3: be the case if you look at how the voters 860 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 3: and the registrants are moving in these key races. We've 861 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 3: got about twenty seconds left here case. I just want 862 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 3: you to opine on the RNC versus the DNC, the 863 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 3: Democrat National Committee when it comes to fundraising. I've been 864 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 3: reading the reports here. Republicans have a massive financial advantage 865 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,439 Speaker 3: and the Democrats are in debt. 866 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: Can you illuminate that for us a little bit? 867 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, we are very blessed with the Republican 868 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 14: National Committee. First and foremost, we are completely unified with 869 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 14: the White House. In this administration. We have President Trump, 870 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 14: who is the great as president ever. We have a 871 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 14: Vice President Vance who is our finance chair and chairman 872 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 14: Gruters and I work tirelessly traveling the country dilling for dollars, 873 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 14: and frankly, our investors are very confident in the plan 874 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 14: that we have going into the midterms. I mean, I'm 875 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 14: the former treasurer of the RNC, and the way that 876 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 14: we spend our money is if it's not about winning, 877 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 14: we aren't spending it. So that's getting out the vote 878 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 14: and protecting the vote. And that's it. And so we 879 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 14: have about one hundred and twenty four million cash on hand. 880 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 14: They are in debt about eighteen million dollars. And again 881 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 14: this puts us in a tremendous position going into November. 882 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty four million dollars in the bank 883 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 3: at the Republican National Committee. And did you say eighteen 884 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 3: million dollars in debt for the Democrats. 885 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 14: Yep, that's wid just sh I have eighteen million. It 886 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 14: is wild and it just shows how completely dysfunctional they are. 887 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: I mean, that is that is crazy. I don't know 888 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: who's running. 889 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if you were running a shop that 890 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 3: was eighteen million dollars in debt and your competitors we're 891 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 3: in the black to the tune of one hundred and 892 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 3: twenty four million. 893 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, no wonder they're looking for new leadership over there. 894 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 3: Casey Crosby is the national co chair of the Republican 895 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 3: National Committee. She hails from my home commonwealth of Kentucky. 896 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 3: And we thank you, Casey for your time today and 897 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,479 Speaker 3: have safe travels. We'll got to take a break. Scott 898 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 3: Jennings is here on Salem. More after this. 899 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 2: Now for America's favorite pundit, it's Scott Jennings. 900 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 3: It is Tuesday, June the ninth, Common Sense for the 901 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 3: American people. Scott Jennings here on Salem. Something that has 902 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 3: caught my attention today there is a hearing going on 903 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,720 Speaker 3: up on Capitol Hill and it is producing some jaw 904 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 3: dropping moments. The House Judiciary Committee, the chairman is Jim Jordan, 905 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 3: friend of the show, has been questioning the Southern Poverty 906 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 3: Law Center interim president Brian Fair. You know, they've been 907 00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 3: indicted on charges of wire fraud, bank fraud, and money 908 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 3: laundering tied to over four point one million dollars that 909 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 3: the SPLC paid to informants who worked in hate groups 910 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 3: from twenty ten to twenty twenty three. In this hearing, 911 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 3: Republicans have been highlighting one of the informants role in 912 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 3: the twenty seventeen Charlottesville rally and then the revenue surge 913 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 3: that the SPLC received after that. You remember the Charlottesville rally. 914 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 3: This was the Many Fine People moment and the Unite 915 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 3: the Right rally in Charlottesville. The SPLC got a bunch 916 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 3: of money in the door after that whole thing. Well, 917 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 3: according to the information that's come out, they were actually 918 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 3: paying people to go there and be part of the rally. 919 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,959 Speaker 3: Now Fair, in this hearing, the guy Brian Fair, who's 920 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 3: the interim head of the SBLC, has been defending the payments. 921 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 3: He called it standard in tells work they were sharing 922 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 3: with law enforcement. I'm not sure I agree with that, 923 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 3: but that's what he has said about it. Anyway, this 924 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 3: hearing today has produced a couple of moments. Brian Fair 925 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 3: is at the table. Let's start with this one. The 926 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: chairman of the committee is Jim Jordan, and he and 927 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 3: Fair are going back and forth over the SPLC's involvement 928 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 3: with some of these actual hate groups cut twenty. 929 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 15: But the indictment says that these informants and film sources 930 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 15: were encouraging other people to attend these hate rallies. And 931 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 15: I'm saying, okay, so you don't have to answer that stupid, 932 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 15: but is that a good thing in general? 933 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 16: Again, all the allegations in the indictment, do you wish 934 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 16: Chairman Jordan okay will be addressed. 935 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 15: Do you wish you hadn't have done the program? You 936 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 15: said the program was successful, helpful, But now you're stopping it. 937 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 16: We stop the program because we believe hate and extremism 938 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 16: has migrated significantly online and into government agencies. 939 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 940 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 15: Wow, that's that's that's that's. 941 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 1: That makes no sense. 942 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 15: Now recognizes I mean, mister Sherman, I've got a UC request. 943 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 3: Did you hear the audible gasps in the room. There's 944 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 3: a big crowd for this hearing today. Pretty shocking stuff. 945 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 3: Now in another round of questioning, Jerry Nadler is in there. 946 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 12: Now. 947 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 3: He's a Democrat, and I mean he's a very liberal 948 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,240 Speaker 3: Democrat from New York. No friend of any Republican anywhere. 949 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 3: I can assure you no, not a conservative bone in 950 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 3: Jerry Nadler's body. He asked a simple question to Brian 951 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 3: Fairhead of the SPLC about the Unite the Right rally. 952 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: Let's hear that exchange in cut twenty one. 953 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 10: Can you explain what actions the SBLC took before the 954 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 10: Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in an attempt to 955 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 10: help law enforcement? 956 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 16: Congressman, never again, I must say that council will respond 957 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 16: to all allegations in the indictment in the Middle District 958 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 16: of Alabama. 959 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: And that's not an alleasia. 960 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 16: It's part of the allegation. 961 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 3: Okay, Jerry Nadler was trying to give Brian Fair a 962 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 3: chance to say something on his own behalf, and he 963 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,399 Speaker 3: couldn't do it. 964 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: He couldn't do it. 965 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 3: If you are watching on the video stream, you saw 966 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 3: Jerry Nadler was kind of slack jaw there. He couldn't 967 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 3: believe that that's what Brian Fair had to say. Bottom line, 968 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 3: based on my review of this right now, and it's 969 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 3: still happening there on Capitol Hill, the SBLC is having 970 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 3: a rough day on Capitol Hill. And this comes after 971 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 3: just a couple of days ago, the Department of Justice 972 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,959 Speaker 3: has expanded its indictment against the Southern Poverty Law Center. 973 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 3: They're now alleging, in addition to the previous allegation, that 974 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 3: the SPLC funneled millions of dollars in tax exempt funds 975 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 3: to extremist organizations, and it paid for things like KKK, Robes, 976 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 3: cross burnings and other extremist rallies. So you have the 977 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,479 Speaker 3: SPLC claiming to be the final arbiter of whose hate 978 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 3: group and who isn't and putting the target on the 979 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 3: backs of conservatives across this country and taking in all 980 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 3: this millions and millions of dollars. 981 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: And what were they using it for? 982 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 3: They were funneling it to people so they could buy 983 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 3: KKK robes, engaging cross burnings and stage extremist rallies. 984 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 1: Pretty shocking stuff. 985 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 3: We'll keep an eye on this Southern Poverty Law Center 986 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 3: indictment and the hearing that's going on on Capitol Hill. 987 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 3: We're going to take a break when we come back. 988 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 3: We haven't touched on this on the show yet, but 989 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 3: we need to get into it because closing arguments are 990 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 3: happening today in the Carmelo Anthony murder trial down in Texas. 991 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 3: We'll have legal analyst Danny Savallos. After this stay with 992 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 3: us and the leftists haven't had enough gut there's more. 993 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,320 Speaker 3: This is the Scott Jenny Show. It is Tuesday, June 994 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,919 Speaker 3: the ninth, and in sixty seconds here we'll dive into 995 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 3: this Carmelo Anthony murder trial in Texas. We have NBC 996 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 3: News legal analysts Danny Savallo's standing by. He's been covering 997 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 3: the trial every day. 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In April twenty 1032 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 3: twenty five, a horrific crime occurred at a track meet 1033 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 3: in Frisco, Texas when he's seventeen year old boy named 1034 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 3: Carmelo Anthony brutally stabbed another male student named Austin Metcalf, 1035 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 3: and Metcalf ultimately succumbed to his stab wounds. 1036 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 1: He died. 1037 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 3: The case that shocked the nation is on trial. The 1038 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 3: jury was handed the case this morning around eleven o'clock, 1039 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 3: so closing arguments are over. The jury is deliberating and 1040 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 3: here to bring us insights into this ongoing trial. As 1041 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 3: NBC News legal analyst Danny Savalos, Danny, you've been covering 1042 00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 3: this trial every single day. I set up we had 1043 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 3: really covered this here on the Scott Jennings Show. So 1044 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 3: maybe go back to the beginning. I set it up 1045 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 3: for the audience here, but kind of go back to 1046 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 3: the beginning, from the moment this happened to right now, 1047 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 3: Carmelo Anthony, both of these, both the suspect and the 1048 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 3: victim here were teenagers, and they were competing at a 1049 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 3: track meet. 1050 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: Is that right? 1051 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 17: Exactly right. So Carmelo Anthony was a track athlete who 1052 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 17: was visiting a tent. Now, apparently there's this pent culture 1053 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 17: among track and field athletes, and I was never one, 1054 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 17: but apparently in Texas they have tents that are set 1055 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 17: up on the stadium the stands, and so Carmelo Anthony 1056 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 17: had entered an opposing team their tent and was asked 1057 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 17: to leave by the victim. 1058 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: And what happened is obviously. 1059 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 17: The subject of a lot of dispute, but I think 1060 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 17: pretty clearly we can say from the testimony, at least 1061 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 17: in this case, that the victim shoved him or pushed him, 1062 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 17: or put his hands on him and Carmelo, Anthony pulled 1063 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 17: a knife and stab them, after which the victim died. 1064 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 17: So that those are the I guess you could say 1065 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 17: the undisputed facts. But beyond that, there is a tremendous 1066 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 17: issue as to whether or not this was self defense 1067 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 17: or whether or not it was manslaughter. 1068 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 3: So I should go back and ask you this question. 1069 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 3: I said it was the murder trial. Is he charged 1070 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 3: with murder or something else? Here in the case he is, and. 1071 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 17: Really not to take away from the big story, A 1072 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 17: lot of people have been talking about self defense, but 1073 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 17: I think, really, if I'm the prosecution, I'm worried about 1074 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 17: a lesser included offense like manslaughter. But yes, he is 1075 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 17: charged with murder with a mandatory minimum of five years 1076 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 17: and much more than that if convicted, and so that 1077 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 17: is what the jury is considering. If they can consider 1078 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 17: a lesser included offense, then manslaughter might be a possibility. 1079 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 17: But here's the problem. He's claiming self defense. And I 1080 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 17: think that's what made has made this case so interesting 1081 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 17: because it's raised a lot of issues of bout self defense. 1082 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 17: And I got to tell you, Scott, I don't think 1083 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 17: he's got a real good shot at self defense. I 1084 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 17: just don't see that happening, even though Texas law is 1085 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 17: relatively favorable to the defendant who claimed self defense. 1086 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 3: I was reading some accounts of the trial, Danny, and 1087 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 3: I guess they had the coroner testify in the case 1088 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 3: who showed the jury the pictures of the victim here 1089 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 3: and after the victim had been stabbed and just you know, 1090 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 3: his chest had been gouged by this knife. 1091 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: I guess they had. 1092 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 3: Pictures of his lacerated heart, and apparently this caused audible 1093 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 3: gasps in the courtroom and clearly some uncomfortable moments with 1094 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 3: the jury. When you hear things like that, When you 1095 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 3: see that sort of an impactful moment in a trial, 1096 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 3: does that tell you something about which way you think 1097 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 3: the jury may be leaning? Those are those the kinds 1098 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 3: of things that stay with a juror when they go 1099 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 3: into these deliberations. 1100 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 17: Well, they are scott And the reason is that's why 1101 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 17: prosecutors always put in as many autopsy photos as they 1102 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 17: can before the judge strikes some of them as cumulative. 1103 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 17: If we're up to the prosecution, they would put thirty 1104 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 17: autopsy photos in, but they don't, and judges don't let them. 1105 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 17: But I mean it's even more than that. I mean 1106 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 17: members of the family were told to leave the courtroom, 1107 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 17: and the photos included not only the autopsy, but even 1108 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 17: his removed heart. He had a two inch I guess 1109 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 17: you would say laceration. Laceration, that puncture wound really in 1110 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 17: the heart, which you know too, in the heart, I 1111 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 17: don't mean through the chest. 1112 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: I mean once it. 1113 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 17: Got to the heart, there was a considerable wound in there. 1114 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 17: And jurors even saw his actual heart removed. And none 1115 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 17: of this has been published that I know of, but 1116 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 17: according to reports, they saw his actual heart removed in 1117 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 17: on a table, which makes sense if you're the prosecution 1118 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 17: you want to show cause of death. But I mean 1119 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,760 Speaker 17: talk about gruesome. I mean everybody was worn to leave. 1120 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 17: Those that wanted to did and and this is really 1121 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 17: pretty common fair though for prosecutors it really helps their case. 1122 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 17: So no surprise that they introduced that, and no surprise 1123 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 17: that it was so dramatic. 1124 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 3: So that sounds like one of the more dramatic parts 1125 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 3: of the prosecution here for the defense, you know, based 1126 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 3: on your judgment, have they done a good job or 1127 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 3: not a good job in trying to push this self 1128 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 3: defense side. 1129 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: Yea. 1130 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 3: I know it may be a week sort of a 1131 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 3: week theory to begin with, but have the defense attorneys 1132 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 3: been skillful in your opinion? 1133 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 17: Yeah, Scott, I know you totally get this, but I mean, 1134 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 17: as a defense attorney, you know I've been. 1135 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,439 Speaker 1: Asked this a lot on air. Was it a good job? 1136 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 17: I mean, here's the thing is a defense attorney, we 1137 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 17: don't get to pick our facts. The prosecutors get to 1138 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 17: pick the facts they want to bring to trial. Sometimes 1139 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,680 Speaker 17: you have a case that's just what we call, or 1140 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 17: at least we used to call it, a dead bang loser. 1141 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 17: Sometimes you have a case that the facts are awful, 1142 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 17: but the client wants to go to trial, so you 1143 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 17: do the best you can. And that's what this feels 1144 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 17: like to me. This should have been a plea. This 1145 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 17: should have been a situation where the defense comes to 1146 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 17: the prosecution and says, let's try to work this out 1147 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 17: because this isn't there really isn't a self defense option here. 1148 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 17: And by the way, just as an aside, one of 1149 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 17: the things that a defendant has to do when they 1150 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 17: claim self defense, because it's an affirmative defense, you have 1151 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 17: to admit you have to admit the underlying crime and 1152 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 17: then say, in addition, I feared for my life. So 1153 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 17: in a way, that kind of makes a manslaughter and 1154 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 17: unintentional killing a more difficult lift for this defense. But 1155 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 17: I think sometimes, you know, as a defense attorney, and 1156 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 17: obviously that makes me biased, But I look at this 1157 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 17: and I say, well, the defense did the very best 1158 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 17: they could with what they had. But I also feel 1159 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 17: like seeing this, I can almost and this is just 1160 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 17: my own sort of instinct from being a defense attorney 1161 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 17: that watching the witnesses they put on, I think they 1162 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 17: realized this was an uphill climb and they did the 1163 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,959 Speaker 17: best they can because even some of their witnesses really 1164 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 17: gave the prosecution some points on cross examination. And so look, 1165 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 17: I mean, do I think they did a good job, Yes, 1166 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 17: I think, but let me qualify that. I think they 1167 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 17: did a good job with the horrible facts that they had. 1168 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 17: Do I think it's going to win. No, But the 1169 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 17: life of the defense attorney is losing a lot. It's 1170 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 17: kind of like baseball. If you've bat three hundred, that's 1171 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 17: pretty good. 1172 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 3: Danny Savallo, says an NBC News legal analyst following the 1173 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 3: murder trial here of Carmelo Anthony in Texas. He is 1174 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 3: accused of murdering another teenager named Austin Metcalf last April. 1175 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: It was a gruesome scene. 1176 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 3: Austin Metcalf was stabbed in the heart with a knife 1177 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 3: and he died in his twin brothers arms. We had 1178 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 3: closing arguments wrap up this morning, Danny. I assume you 1179 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 3: watched the closing for both the prosecution and the defense. 1180 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 3: Tell us this, I think for those of us who 1181 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 3: see movies about, you know, dramatic trials, the closing arguments 1182 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 3: are often posited as you know, the moment when the 1183 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 3: deal is sealed. But in this particular case, is it 1184 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 3: your view that the jurors would have had their minds 1185 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 3: made up prior to closing or do you think anything 1186 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 3: was said in the closing arguments that might have changed 1187 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 3: a mind in there? 1188 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 17: Oh, Scott, this is a question for the ages. I mean, 1189 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,439 Speaker 17: if you ask a biased attorney like me will tell 1190 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 17: you that, oh, the closing argument is everything. 1191 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 1: It's where we shine. 1192 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 17: We say, look at me, aren't I cute? And you know, 1193 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 17: as a defense attorney, you want to think that you 1194 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 17: have this power to will your will onto the jury. 1195 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 17: But the reality is I think jurors make decisions early on. 1196 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 17: There's a lot of studies that suggest, although I wouldn't 1197 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 17: say they prove that, you know, from the opening statement, 1198 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 17: jurors are making up their minds, and then all those 1199 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 17: studies are probably worthless because after all, every jury is 1200 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 17: full of a bunch of individuals who are different from 1201 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 17: the last jury. So it is a question for the ages. 1202 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 17: I don't know, but I mean that's why we have 1203 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 17: closing arguments, is that we believe that our summation and 1204 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 17: our argument, it's the one time we're able to argue, 1205 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 17: not during opening. During opening we just restate the facts, 1206 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:56,680 Speaker 17: the best facts. 1207 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: For our case. 1208 01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 17: But during closing that's our one chance to talk to 1209 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 17: thea about what we think the evidence shows. So I mean, 1210 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 17: do I think it possibly swayed them. I don't know 1211 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 17: that the defense really had anything to work with here. 1212 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 17: I mean, I just think this is a case where 1213 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 17: it was pretty I mean, the facts against this defendant 1214 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 17: were really tough. I mean, after all, you know, you 1215 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 17: have a you don't really have a self defense case. 1216 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 17: You have what appears to be an unreasonable response to force, 1217 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 17: because you can only meet force with commensur at force. 1218 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 17: In other words, you can meet a knife with a knife, 1219 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,959 Speaker 17: a gun with a gun. You can't meet a shove 1220 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 17: with a knife. And that's what happened here. And none 1221 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 17: of the facts are really working out for the defense. 1222 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 3: All right, we got about thirty seconds, Danny. I read 1223 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 3: that Carmelo Anthony and his family set up a defense 1224 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 3: fundraising mechanism and they raised over six hundred thousand dollars. 1225 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 3: And then I also read that maybe that money was 1226 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 3: spent on other things and they wound up using public defenders. 1227 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: Is that true? 1228 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,360 Speaker 3: Did they misspend the money on their defense and end 1229 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 3: up using public defenders in the. 1230 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 17: Case, God, I have seen that everywhere, but I haven't 1231 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,439 Speaker 17: really gotten it from a reliable source. I've mostly seen 1232 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 17: it on social media, and it's the kind of thing 1233 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 17: that wouldn't be publicized, so I would be if it's true, 1234 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 17: it's astonishing because six hundred thousand would have gone to 1235 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 17: a solid defense. Now, let me just say having the 1236 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 17: public defender is not a loss. Public defenders are terrific lawyers. 1237 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 17: But it's true that they had that much and failed 1238 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 17: to use it or lost it, that would be shocking. 1239 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 3: Danny Savallos is an NBCDWS legal analyst and one of 1240 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 3: the best in the business. Danny will be tracking this 1241 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 3: as the jury deliberates. Carmela, Hey, I love that. Hey, 1242 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 3: that's the most important credential for getting on the show. 1243 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 3: And you cleared the bar. We got to take a 1244 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 3: break more after this. See it, Danny, true. 1245 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 1: Justice in the American way. Look up in the sky. 1246 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 1: It's a bird, it's a plane. It's the Scott Jenny Show. 1247 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 1: Look up in the sky. 1248 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 3: Indeed, massive news today related to NASA Artemis three, the 1249 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 3: next mission in this Artemis program that we've heard so 1250 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 3: much about, has had its crew of four astronauts officially 1251 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 3: announced today. Now, if you've not been following this, Artemis 1252 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 3: two was the recent successful flyby of the Moon. How 1253 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 3: could you have missed it? Everybody was captivated by this, 1254 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,760 Speaker 3: and that was piloted by four brave American heroes. Their 1255 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 3: journey captivated the nation and the world. It was the 1256 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 3: first time we've been back around the Moon since nineteen 1257 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,919 Speaker 3: seventy two. And now the next step in the Artemis 1258 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 3: program is taking focus the names of the four astronauts 1259 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 3: that we'll do Artemis three are as follows Commander Randy Bresnik. 1260 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 3: We have Andrew Douglas, Frank Rubio, and Luca Parmitano here 1261 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 3: to discuss this announcement today. What is Artemis three and 1262 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 3: when we're going back to the moon? Is our friend 1263 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,599 Speaker 3: Senior Advisor and Press Secretary for NASA, Bethany Stevens. Bethany, 1264 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Scott Jennings Show. Oh, looks like 1265 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 3: you had a successful announcement today. Tell us about these 1266 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,719 Speaker 3: four astronauts and what they are going to be doing 1267 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 3: here on Artemis three. 1268 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 18: Thanks so much for having me, Scott. 1269 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:11,719 Speaker 3: Glad to be back. 1270 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,679 Speaker 18: We did have a successful announcement today. We are looking 1271 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,639 Speaker 18: forward to Artemis three in twenty twenty seven. 1272 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 4: We announced the. 1273 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 18: Four crew members today, but we also importantly announced some 1274 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 18: more details about this mission that will be taking place 1275 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 18: to prove technologies ahead of a lunar landing in twenty 1276 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,679 Speaker 18: twenty eight. It's going to be one of the most 1277 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,439 Speaker 18: complex missions that NASA's ever undertaken, and we know that 1278 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 18: these four are the right people for the job. So 1279 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 18: looking forward to a successful mission. 1280 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 3: All right, So tell me, so, are are they going 1281 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 3: to be the astronauts that go to the moon? Or 1282 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,640 Speaker 3: are these astronauts doing something in the interim. 1283 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 18: Hereor these astronauts are proving the technologies of the lunar landers. 1284 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 18: So this mission will take place in Earth orbit, so 1285 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 18: not necessarily going to Moon. But they're going to be 1286 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,879 Speaker 18: dogging with both the Blue Origin and the SpaceX landers 1287 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,360 Speaker 18: making sure that we're able to do that, just like 1288 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 18: we did in Apollo nine. We're going to be doing 1289 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 18: that here now, making sure that these are capable of 1290 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 18: landing our astronauts putting American bootprints back on the Moon 1291 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 18: in twenty twenty eight. But I know we've spoken about 1292 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 18: this previously. It's not just about landing on the Moon, 1293 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 18: putting a blootprint, putting down a flag. We're actually going 1294 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 18: to stay on the Moon. We're starting a moon base 1295 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 18: and we're starting to build that early next year, and 1296 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 18: eventually we will have astronauts going on regular missions to 1297 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,599 Speaker 18: lift and work on the Moon. So exciting things ahead 1298 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 18: for NASA. 1299 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 3: Now, I've read recently, and I know you guys at 1300 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 3: NASA work closely, and you mentioned both with SpaceX and 1301 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 3: with Blue Origin, And I was reading recently and saw 1302 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 3: the video Blue Origin had a bit of an unfortunate 1303 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,440 Speaker 3: explosion on a launch pad. Did that have any impact 1304 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 3: on the Artemis program or is that something you sort 1305 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 3: of build in, you know, expectations you're going to have 1306 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 3: things like that. Are we still on the calendar that 1307 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 3: you want to be on in order to get to 1308 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 3: the Moon by twenty twenty eight? 1309 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,599 Speaker 18: Yeah, NASA administer to Jared Isaacman has said, and it's 1310 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 18: worth noting he was on the ground down in Cape 1311 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 18: Canaveral the day after that anomaly occurred, but he is 1312 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 18: projected confidence in our timelines we are. Blue Origin has 1313 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 18: also projected confidence in our timelines. We're still on tracks 1314 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,719 Speaker 18: for twenty twenty seven. And I think it's also important 1315 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 18: to note that with great adversity and challenges like this, 1316 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 18: we typically see great innovations that make us come back 1317 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,679 Speaker 18: stronger than we have before. We're confident in Blue Origins 1318 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 18: ability to recover from this and to get back to 1319 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,400 Speaker 18: flying soon and prove their technologies, but are necessary for 1320 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,080 Speaker 18: Artemis three and four, Artemis four in the meantime. 1321 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 3: All right, and final question for you, Bethany. I know 1322 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 3: and we've read China also trying to get to the Moon. 1323 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 3: They'd like to put astronauts on the Moon. What is 1324 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 3: our best guess over at NASA. Are they ahead of us? 1325 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,200 Speaker 3: Are they tracking with us? Are we going to beat 1326 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 3: China back to the moon? I think every American wants 1327 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 3: to know, can we beat the Chinese here in this 1328 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 3: space race to get boots on the moon. 1329 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you I. 1330 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 18: Was just with this crew and they were just speaking 1331 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,120 Speaker 18: with one of our representatives in Congress and they were 1332 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 18: asked the same question and their response was, hell, Yes, 1333 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,679 Speaker 18: we are going to be China back to the Moon. 1334 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 18: It's a paramount importance. We are in the next space race. 1335 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,320 Speaker 18: And China said that they're going to land before the 1336 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,719 Speaker 18: end of twenty thirty. The administrator of NASAGI at Isaac 1337 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 18: Men has said that we are going to land before 1338 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 18: the end of twenty twenty eight. So, as you said, 1339 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,799 Speaker 18: it's going to come down to months and days, not years, 1340 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 18: and we have a challenge in front of us. But 1341 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 18: one thing I know about Americans, they love competition and 1342 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 18: they certainly. 1343 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: Rise to the challenge. 1344 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 18: Just look at the last several Olympics. 1345 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 3: I love that Bethy Stevens is the Press Secretary and 1346 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 3: senior advisor over at NASA. Bethany, you've been doing a 1347 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,519 Speaker 3: great job bringing information about the Artemis program to the 1348 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 3: American people, and we are grateful for your time. We'll 1349 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 3: have you back in Congrats to the four astronauts. We'll 1350 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 3: be doing Artemis three. NASA making that announcement this morning. 1351 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,680 Speaker 3: We are out of time today. We'll be back with 1352 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 3: more breaking news tomorrow, common sense for the American people. 1353 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. I'm Scott Jennings. See you then.