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Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Epicenter weekend edition with New York

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Speaker 1: Times best selling author in Mid East expert Joel Rosenberg.

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Speaker 1: This is a radio program of the Joshua Fund, a

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Speaker 1: ministry founded by Joel and his wife Lynn that's dedicated

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Speaker 1: to blessing Israel and her neighbors in the name of Jesus.

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Speaker 1: This is a program where we don't just talk about

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Speaker 1: faith and current events. We dive right into the spiritual

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Speaker 1: pulse of the Middle East and the God who's moving

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Speaker 1: so powerfully in it. Every week we unpack the headlines,

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Speaker 1: the prophecies, and the hope of Christ that's rising in

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Speaker 1: a region so often misunderstood because what happens in the

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Speaker 1: Epicenter doesn't stay there. It's after shocks ripple across the world.

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Speaker 1: Today we are featuring a powerful and deeply sobering conversation

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Speaker 1: between Joel Rosenberg and US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee,

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Speaker 1: a conversation about the growing hostility towards Israel, a spiritual

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Speaker 1: battle surrounding evangelical support for the Jewish state, and the

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Speaker 1: rising tensions between the United States and Iran. In this

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Speaker 1: special program, Ambassador Huckabee responds directly to recent accusations made

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Speaker 1: against Israel, President Trump, and evangelical Christians by influential media

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Speaker 1: voices on both the political left and right. This is

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Speaker 1: more than a political conversation. It's a spiritual conversation about truth, discernment, courage,

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Speaker 1: and why believers must remain grounded in scripture during a

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Speaker 1: season of confusion and rising hostility. Let's join Joel Rosenberg

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Speaker 1: and Ambassador Mike Huckabee from Jerusalem.

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Speaker 2: So I want to talk about a firestorm, a firestorm

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Speaker 2: that's erupting where on the left and on the right,

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Speaker 2: you've got people that are attacking Israel, the Jews, and

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Speaker 2: very important, not just Israel and Jews, they're attacking the Christians,

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Speaker 2: the evangelical Christians. Some call us a Christian Zionist Christians

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Speaker 2: who love Israel and love the Jews and are standing

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Speaker 2: with Israel in this seven front, eight front, or really

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Speaker 2: this is a big deal because what's happening on the left,

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Speaker 2: but more importantly on the crazies on the right, extreme right,

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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson, Candace Owen's, Megan Keviny and others, they are

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Speaker 2: firing the political equivalent of nuclear cruise missiles right at

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Speaker 2: the evangelical Christian alliance with Israel, which means at the

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Speaker 2: alliance between Trump and these evangelical Christians. So nobody better

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Speaker 2: to talk about this than the man who sat brutally

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Speaker 2: for more than two hours with Tucker Carlson trying to

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Speaker 2: explain and speak sense and reason into Tucker.

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Speaker 3: It didn't work.

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Speaker 2: But Mike Huckabee and maathro Rockabye, thank you for coming

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Speaker 2: on for.

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Speaker 3: Your first full interview really.

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Speaker 2: About that and about this topic. Since that's a very

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Speaker 2: intense dust up you had with Tucker.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell people that's two hours of my life

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Speaker 4: I'll never get back again. It was quite an experience, Joel.

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Speaker 4: You know, because I've known Tucker for over thirty years.

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Speaker 4: One of his first jobs was Little Rock, Arkansas. I

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Speaker 4: worked for he was the governor, and he worked for

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Speaker 4: a paper. It was actually I was a lieutenant other

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Speaker 4: OK and he was working for the newspaper. And then

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Speaker 4: I became governor. He went on to CNN, to MSNBC.

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Speaker 4: I think he did PPS. Well, he's been fired. He's

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Speaker 4: pretty much been every network, been fired from every one

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Speaker 4: of them. I knew him at Fox. We worked together

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Speaker 4: in New York for six and a half years when

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Speaker 4: I was there. But the Tucker Carlson that I'm watching

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Speaker 4: today is not recognizable from the one that I have

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Speaker 4: known all as many years before.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the interview, but he's given

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Speaker 2: other interviews, including just this week a two hour interview

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Speaker 2: think when even further in some of the most astonishing

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Speaker 2: American statements I've ever heard him make. And that's tough

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Speaker 2: to He's tough to top, but he keeps talking himself,

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Speaker 2: just zooming out for a moment. Though this is a firestorms,

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Speaker 2: this is the way I'm describing It's just it's just

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Speaker 2: a war right now by people on the left, mostly

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got Candace Owens on the right saying

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Speaker 2: that Israel is a demonic nation direct quote Hassan Piker,

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Speaker 3: He says that Hamas is a thousand times.

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Speaker 2: Better than Israel, and he calls Prime mister net and

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Speaker 2: Yahoo Satan Yahoo.

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Speaker 3: Those are just a few of the recent quotes.

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Speaker 2: Senator Bernie Sanders accusing Israel of genocide, saying that Israel

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Speaker 2: dragged the United States in to this war with Iran,

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Speaker 2: Tucker himself is called the war in God's a genocide.

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Speaker 3: And those are just a few.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, let's not get into all the

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Speaker 2: It's too long and too exhausting. So let's start with

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Speaker 2: the most explosive thing that Tucker has said in recent days,

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Speaker 2: and that suggesting that President Trump is the anti Christ. Now,

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Speaker 2: he said on his show on April fifteenth, the day

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Speaker 2: himself above them. Could this be the Antichrist?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: When the New York Times reporter read that to him,

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Speaker 2: he said, I've not said that. She said, you have

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Speaker 2: said it. He said, actually, I did not say that

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Speaker 2: this could be the Antichrist? I don't know where that

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Speaker 5: You know, you've been talking on your show about whether

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Speaker 5: Trump is the Antichrist.

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Speaker 6: I have not said that.

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Speaker 5: On your show the day after Easter, you noted he

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Speaker 5: swearing ceremony as president. You said, and I'm quoting, maybe

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Speaker 5: affirmatively rejects what's inside that book. And then on a

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Speaker 5: recent show you went further, saying, here's a leader who's

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Speaker 5: mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the God of

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Speaker 6: I actually did not say, could this be the Antichrist?

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Speaker 7: Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors,

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Speaker 6: Could this be the Antichrist? Well, who knows.

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Speaker 7: I don't know where that comes from, but I know

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Speaker 7: that those words never left my lips, because I'm not

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Speaker 7: sure I fully understand what the antichrist is. If there's

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Speaker 2: It We're at a new low when somebody who endorsed

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Speaker 3: How do you respond to something like.

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Speaker 4: That, Well, there are two things that are really wrong

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Speaker 4: is that he denies the words that he said, and

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Speaker 4: he vehemently denies it. It's like I'm reminded of Peter

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Speaker 4: at Kaifis' house saying I'd never said that. You know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know the man. First, it's like, yeah, you do,

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Speaker 4: really bizarre because the internet lives forever. Those words that

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Speaker 4: on any social media platform and see him saying the

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Speaker 2: I've got a theory on this already. I mean meaning,

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Speaker 2: it's possible he forgot possible.

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Speaker 3: His mind is so clouded.

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Speaker 2: I have another theory, which is he's an evil genius.

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Speaker 3: He's been in media for thirty plus years.

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Speaker 2: By saying he didn't say it, he got the New

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Speaker 2: York Times to replay the clip and media all of

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Speaker 2: the world, certainly social media is replaying the clip, in

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Speaker 2: other words, to magnify the concept that President Trump is

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Speaker 2: not just evil and a betrayer, and we'll get to

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Speaker 2: some of the other things he said, but is the

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Speaker 3: This is what's happened.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting because Tucker Carlson was a huge fan

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Speaker 4: Trump could be the Antichrist. Now here's the real issue.

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Speaker 4: President Trump hasn't changed. I've known him since two thousand

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Speaker 4: and eleven or twenty ten. He really is the same person.

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Speaker 4: And if you listen to things that he has said,

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Speaker 4: still saying the same things that he was saying forty

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Speaker 4: five years ago. This is the same guy. Tucker Carlson,

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Speaker 4: on the other hand, is saying very different things. So

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Speaker 4: if someone has had a dramatic change in not just personality,

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Speaker 4: it's Tucker Carlson. That's the hard part to explain. Why

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Speaker 4: And that's really what we're looking at, is somebody who

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Speaker 2: So Tucker has called President Trump in the New York

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Speaker 2: Times interview in recent weeks since he saw you, he's

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Speaker 2: called him evil, a betrayer of the United States, betrayer

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Speaker 3: Tucker also in the New York.

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Speaker 2: Times interview, said that President Trump is spellbinding. Now that

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Speaker 2: but he says, I think this.

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Speaker 2: A spell that the President is casting on people to weaken,

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Speaker 2: confuse them, and make them more compliant. He said, spending

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Speaker 2: It's like smoking hash. I can't say I have never

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Speaker 2: done it, but maybe Tucker has. But he says there

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Speaker 2: may be a supernatural component. So on the one hand,

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Speaker 2: Tucker is accusing the President of being sort of all powerful,

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Speaker 2: But then he went on to say that President Trump

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Speaker 2: is a slave to Prime Mister net Yahoo, that President Trump.

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Speaker 3: Is a hostage.

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Speaker 2: Pretty hard words when we had dealt with two hundred

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Speaker 3: So which is it? Is Trump the.

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Speaker 2: All powerful anti Christ evil put people in spells, or

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Speaker 2: is he a slave to Yahoo and the Israeli government.

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Speaker 4: Truth is, he can't be both. He's got to be

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Speaker 4: one of the other. He has to be neither one.

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Speaker 4: I think he's neither one. I was in the room

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Speaker 6: It was at the White House. There were two parts of.

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Speaker 4: The meeting, and I can tell you President Trump was

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Speaker 4: not pulled in. He was not led, He was not

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Speaker 4: somehow persuaded. Evidence was presented. It was the thorough discussion.

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Speaker 4: President Trump made up his own mind. Anybody who's ever

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Speaker 4: been around him knows you don't grab President Trump by

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Speaker 4: the nose and wheeling him along. It's not how he operates.

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Speaker 4: He's a very decisive person.

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Speaker 2: He's had some dust ups with net Yahoo in the

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Speaker 2: past that where they agreed at times.

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Speaker 4: But it's also because they have such a close relationship,

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Speaker 1: Ambassador Huckabee as they discussed why President Trump believed Iran

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Speaker 3: Let's sharpen this point.

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Speaker 2: The New York Times interviewer asked Tucker, So, what has changed, Tucker,

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Speaker 2: It is true that President Trump would seem like an

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Speaker 3: But something did change. What's the thing that changed?

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Speaker 4: Well, the biggest thing that changed was not something that

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Speaker 2: So one would think right logically that Tucker Carlson or

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, don't want to break this to you, Tucker,

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I have to ask you another question because I

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Speaker 7: And by his many advocates in the United States know that,

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Speaker 2: But because he couldn't get out of it, he is

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Speaker 3: He is. He hates.

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Speaker 2: He says, he's apologized to you and Tucker, Ted Crews

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Speaker 4: Well, when we did our interview, he because he was

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Speaker 2: Last question, I thought the most despicable moment in his

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Speaker 3: Still hope that he sues.

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Speaker 4: I really do, because the only reason that people change

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Speaker 4: the kind of really evil behavior that Tucker is doing

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Speaker 2: The First Lady of France is suing Candice owen Good,

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Speaker 4: Man, ridiculous, absurd.

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 2: You can disagree with the Macrones, but this has becomes

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Speaker 6: That is.

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Speaker 4: I feel like worthy of a lawsuit because if people

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Speaker 2: I just want to say you did such an excellent job.

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Speaker 3: You handled it well, and.

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