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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Speaker 3: We are here in Phoenix, Arizona Live this Friday, June
Speaker 3: twenty six Is it.
Speaker 2: You enjoys it? I thought yesterday was Jude. It is
Speaker 2: the twenty sixth of Juel.
Speaker 3: Good, not wrong. How are we doing, Blake, We're doing excellent, wonderful.
Speaker 3: We just got good news.
Speaker 2: This is well, there is good.
Speaker 3: You're talking about the Tyler Robinson Yes, yes, of course,
Speaker 3: so we do have an update. Judge Graft ruled on
Speaker 3: the contempt portion of the case involving Tyler Robinson. To
Speaker 3: bring the audience back up to speed. So there was
Speaker 3: obviously an ATF report that was reference in a defense motion. Now,
Speaker 3: the defense motion said that the bullet didn't match the
Speaker 3: gun all right, or something to that effect. Daily Mail
Speaker 3: took it spun, it went crazy twenty five thirty million
Speaker 3: impressions later. So the prosecution came out and they said, actually, hey, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 3: whoa wo woa. That's not what the ATF report says.
Speaker 3: The ATF report says the bullet was too badly damaged
Speaker 3: to conclusively without any question using ballistics reporting of striations
Speaker 3: on the bullet, et cetera, to match it to the gun.
Speaker 3: But we have plenty of other reason to believe that
Speaker 3: the gun matches the bullet and all this other evident.
Speaker 4: And just more generally, it's that it's it can't be
Speaker 4: provably they took. It can't be provably linked to this
Speaker 4: specific gun and people spotted. As it is disproven, it
Speaker 4: is not possibly linked.
Speaker 3: The prosecution went and corrected the record, but that's not
Speaker 3: why there he's being held in contempt this particular prosecutor.
Speaker 3: Why he's being held in contempt is because then after
Speaker 3: clarifying the record, which the judge admitted and concurred that
Speaker 3: he had a reasonable rationale and expectation to clarify the record,
Speaker 3: he went went on and said, we have an overwhelming
Speaker 3: case the state does against Tyler Robinson that he said
Speaker 3: is unfairly prejudicial to the journey. Okay, so that's the
Speaker 3: big case. It's basically a slap on the wrist. So
Speaker 3: here's actually a legal analyst from Fox News. I saw
Speaker 3: this clip as I was prepping for the show this morning.
Speaker 3: I thought he did an excellent job. I'll play it
Speaker 3: for you. Saw twenty seven.
Speaker 2: How does the.
Speaker 1: Contempt charge against Chris Ballard the prosecutor. How does that
Speaker 1: affect the case? Would they pull him off?
Speaker 4: Does it do anything else to the prosecution?
Speaker 5: I think it'll have no effect whatsoever. And I think
Speaker 5: the best way to look at this whole thing is
Speaker 5: this was a win for the prosecution. Yes, they were
Speaker 5: found in contempt, but they were not found in contempt
Speaker 5: for the bigger issue about correcting the ATF to report.
Speaker 5: That was really what this was all about, was there
Speaker 5: was false information out there.
Speaker 2: The prosecution felt.
Speaker 5: That they had to act and had to act quickly
Speaker 5: to correct it so it would not create this spun
Speaker 5: out of control false narrative.
Speaker 3: So it will have absolutely no effect on the prosecution.
Speaker 3: But again I marvel actually a Judge Graft's ability to
Speaker 3: navigate these with nuance, with impartiality, fairness. All of this
Speaker 3: is important because ultimately, when this case is done, it
Speaker 3: will be up for appeal, and he's being very careful
Speaker 3: not to give any reason for this trial to be overturned.
Speaker 2: It makes you.
Speaker 4: Really admire, you know, the capabilities of people we have
Speaker 4: randomly in Middle America. Because this is a not even
Speaker 4: the largest county in Utah. It's south of Salt Lake
Speaker 4: City and just out of you know, he's never expected.
Speaker 4: He probably mostly handles incredibly minor cases, and then suddenly
Speaker 4: the most famous criminal case in the country that's going
Speaker 4: to be consuming possibly two three years of his life,
Speaker 4: drops into it, and I feel like he's handled it
Speaker 4: all quite well.
Speaker 2: He's handled it well. I mean it's slow and deliberate.
Speaker 3: Certainly, I would love to Blake's points that he's made
Speaker 3: on the show multiple times.
Speaker 2: I would love for this stuff to be faster. You know.
Speaker 3: I always think about this, and I'm not saying this
Speaker 3: is exactly what I want to go. I'm just saying
Speaker 3: the contrast in the juxtaposition juxtaposition mentally is just wild. Well,
Speaker 3: remember when we went into Iraq and they found you know,
Speaker 3: Saddam Hussein hiding in a cistern or whatever it was,
Speaker 3: and and literally within like two or three weeks I
Speaker 3: think he was hanging in the public square.
Speaker 2: Well, it took a while. I remember that.
Speaker 3: It took a couple of years. Actually, no, I don't
Speaker 3: think so we'll look it up anyway. The point is,
Speaker 3: the pace of justice in this country is abysmally slow.
Speaker 3: But I once again I admire Judge Graft's deliberateness, how
Speaker 3: careful he's being, uh and how dispassionately and impartially he's
Speaker 3: approaching everything. I think that's actually really really important, and
Speaker 3: it's a it's a good thing when we want to
Speaker 3: get justice in this case. All right, we are going
Speaker 3: to now transition to some of the continued fallout from
Speaker 3: the DSA sweep in New York. And it occurs to me, Blake,
Speaker 3: that the Democrat Party has been sustained upon the a
Speaker 3: coalition of Fourteenth Amendment blacks, like the Black Americans, especially
Speaker 3: after the Civil Rights Act, and Ellis Island immigrants, and
Speaker 3: they are being supplanted by the Heart Seller immigrants and
Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety Immigration Act.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 4: We should, yeah, we should explain that because we had
Speaker 4: America's had two truly dramatic waves of immigration in the
Speaker 4: past one hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 2: You could call it the.
Speaker 4: Ellis Island Wave that kicks off maybe about ten to
Speaker 4: fifteen years after the Civil War runs eighteen nineties, twenty
Speaker 4: eighteen nineties, nineteen hundreds, nineteen tens. We get millions of
Speaker 4: people into America, and then America decides too many of
Speaker 4: these and they slam the door and we digest those
Speaker 4: Americans for decades, but that still is the bedrock of
Speaker 4: FDR's New Deal coalition. You have these big cities. They
Speaker 4: have Italians, they have Eastern Europeans, they have Jewish Americans,
Speaker 4: and a lot of them are sort of the bed
Speaker 4: of the Democratic Party, along with black and happens. A
Speaker 4: lot of the Democratic Party was very Catholic throughout this period,
Speaker 4: and that's the Democratic Party. But now we're at the
Speaker 4: point they got digested. A lot of them. They're not
Speaker 4: Democrats anymore. They got assimilated. I like to say that
Speaker 4: a sign of my assimilation. I'm mostly German. I'm Catholic,
Speaker 4: but I like reading English history a lot more than
Speaker 4: I like reading German history.
Speaker 2: I identify far more with England. I've been totally assimilated.
Speaker 4: But Democrats, that's not going to work for them because
Speaker 4: they can't handle people who love America. So they need
Speaker 4: to build a new coalition.
Speaker 2: So, as you say, the.
Speaker 4: Heart Cellar Act, that's the shorthand for Ted Kennedy's bill
Speaker 4: changing massively liberalizing our immigration laws nineteen sixty five onward.
Speaker 4: Continuing in nineteen ninety, the biggest immigration wave of any
Speaker 4: country in human history, and much.
Speaker 2: More alien people.
Speaker 4: Now we're getting more, We're getting Muslims, we're getting Hindus,
Speaker 4: we're getting more East Asians, not nearly as culturally Christian
Speaker 4: or European.
Speaker 3: Well, everybody thinks of immigration, not everybody. It used to
Speaker 3: be in the country that a lot of people thought
Speaker 3: of tabula rasa right, that we are a blank slate,
Speaker 3: that you can incorporate any culture and it will be
Speaker 3: seamless and easy. Once they come to America, they'll realize
Speaker 3: the blessings of freedom and capitalism and orderliness in the
Speaker 3: free market. No, what happens now is if you and
Speaker 3: go full screen on me, if you can't, guys, if
Speaker 3: you were saying, like, here's America in the nineteen twenties
Speaker 3: and then you get this huge immigrant way from southern
Speaker 3: and Eastern Europe, this is about how alien they were
Speaker 3: about like this much space. Guess what happened after hard
Speaker 3: Seller the immigrants. You can't even see it's off screen, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's like way over there. How alien they are to
Speaker 3: our starting point. The assimilation challenge is first and foremost
Speaker 3: much more difficult because they are much more alien to
Speaker 3: our country. But secondly, our country lost it's backbone and
Speaker 3: its courage and it's self confidence. So now it's racist
Speaker 3: to ask them to assimilate. Now it's racist to suggest
Speaker 3: they follow our laws. It's racist to suggest that they
Speaker 3: should not get on welfare instantly and work with an
Speaker 3: NGO to game our system.
Speaker 2: That's all bigoted and hateful.
Speaker 3: And we love our immigrant communities, and they add diversity
Speaker 3: and ethnic food and all this other garbage.
Speaker 2: Gotta have the ethnic food.
Speaker 3: This is exactly how communism gets ushered in, how foreign ideas,
Speaker 3: foreign grudges, and foreign tribalism get ushered into America.
Speaker 2: And it's got to stop. All right.
Speaker 3: Here's what I want to tell you about the Pew Report.
Speaker 3: Pew did a They sorted Americans into nine political groups. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's a very very interesting way to do it. So
Speaker 3: instead of left the right, we understand that every side
Speaker 3: is actually really, when you break it down, a coalition
Speaker 3: of different types of voters.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Now I did my taxonomy of the right and broke
Speaker 3: down into five groups. They have broken it down into
Speaker 3: nine different groups, ranging from left, very left to very right. Okay,
Speaker 3: and they do it by race, White, Hispanic, Black, Asian, Okay,
Speaker 3: So what's interesting about this report and what was kind
Speaker 3: of the inspiration for our lead today was that Blacks
Speaker 3: and to a lesser extent, Latinos are really really low
Speaker 3: on the super progressive scale, and the vast majority of
Speaker 3: those cohorts fall into order and opportunity left. So, yes,
Speaker 3: they are left. They are democrats, but they're not crazy democrats.
Speaker 3: They sort of want order an opportunity. They actually are
Speaker 3: pretty cool with the capitalist system, with having to work
Speaker 3: for a job. They want order, they want crime, they
Speaker 3: want immigration. Actually, Blacks and Latinos tend to be very
Speaker 3: very bullish on immigration. They want order at the border,
Speaker 3: they want crime and dealt with, and they want order
Speaker 3: in those different respects. So they tend to be more
Speaker 3: economically progressive, but they want law and order.
Speaker 4: Okay, a lot of them, a lot of them, I
Speaker 4: would define that as they're groups that basically they want
Speaker 4: government programs to pay out.
Speaker 3: All right, that's sure, but it's something different than what
Speaker 3: we're seeing with the hard seller immigrants. Okay, it's something
Speaker 3: different than we're seeing with the nineteen ninety and onward
Speaker 3: mass invasion immigrants. So these are people that have been
Speaker 3: somewhat assimilated into the customs and norms of America, and
Speaker 3: you can work with them. And here's the big key,
Speaker 3: Blacks into a lesser extent. Latinos don't fully realize what's
Speaker 3: happening right now. They don't realize that the Democrat Party
Speaker 3: is leaving them behind. They have found new customers, and
Speaker 3: that is foreigners, foreigners that just get off the boat.
Speaker 3: They have fewer demands. All they want is communism. All
Speaker 3: they want is to seize the means of production from
Speaker 3: rich white people and give it away to their constituencies.
Speaker 2: This is what you see with Somalia.
Speaker 3: Okay, that is the most extreme example that you can
Speaker 3: think of, certainly, but that is a good case study.
Speaker 3: And here's I'll show that it's true. This is Zoram Mamdani,
Speaker 3: a foreigner himself, a Muslim, foreigner, Islamo Marxist twenty one.
Speaker 6: We saw today the Supreme Court make a decision that
Speaker 6: is putting so many people's lives in jeopardy. Many of
Speaker 6: you knows a city of eight and a half million people,
Speaker 6: more than three million of us were born elsewhere. I'm
Speaker 6: one of them. We're a city that's proud of our
Speaker 6: immigrant heritage. And when we think about especially what Haitian
Speaker 6: New Yorkers have had to deal with, not just for
Speaker 6: weeks or months or years, but frankly for decades, we
Speaker 6: have seen a cruelty that has become normalized.
Speaker 3: He says three million immigrants in New York City, three million,
Speaker 3: more than three million. That is crazy.
Speaker 2: They York.
Speaker 4: They'll tell you New York has always been a city
Speaker 4: of immigrants. But what that understates is New York has
Speaker 4: had its demographics change a lot, even in the past
Speaker 4: twenty or since nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: Since nine eleven, New York is.
Speaker 4: It's vastly less white, including ethnic whites, Italians and so forth.
Speaker 2: It's a lot more Islamic, a lot.
Speaker 4: More Chinese, like, a lot of interesting shifts have happened.
Speaker 4: And also it's economically changed, and that's one of the
Speaker 4: reasons you're able to see this more kind of communist
Speaker 4: stuff take off.
Speaker 3: So here's what's happening in the Democrat Party to this point.
Speaker 3: You are seeing the rise of the foreigners, the foreign tribalism,
Speaker 3: sectarianism coming up, and it is vengeful, it is bitter,
Speaker 3: it hates America, and you're seeing a wedge being driven
Speaker 3: into the heart of the Democrat Party. And we're even
Speaker 3: seeing now movement of some Democrats, moderate Democrats that don't
Speaker 3: like it, and they are actually signing a pledge, a
Speaker 3: promise to America supporting what strong borders, interesting, capitalism, and patriotism.
Speaker 2: Check this out. It's not twenty two.
Speaker 7: You know, there's certain things that I believe in that
Speaker 7: are not being reflected in the current environment, especially with
Speaker 7: some of these races on Tuesday. And as we said
Speaker 7: in our pledge, you know, we're for capitalism, not socialism.
Speaker 7: We're for safety and not lawlessness. We're proud of America,
Speaker 7: not ashamed of America, and we need to be promoting
Speaker 7: those things. And you know, the far left and the
Speaker 7: far right, you know, they're all very well organized, but
Speaker 7: those of us that don't support those far left or
Speaker 7: far far right principles need to do a better job
Speaker 7: organizing and getting our message out.
Speaker 2: That reminds me.
Speaker 4: Did you see the political headline the other day Democrats
Speaker 4: grapple uncomfortably with World Cup success?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what's there to grapple?
Speaker 3: By the way, we lost a Turkey in the ninety
Speaker 3: eighth minute and overage Anyways, that was it was really,
Speaker 3: really annoying. Was it going to be a two two
Speaker 3: tie and then they lost it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, But but the point is I have a lot of
Speaker 3: disdain for guys like this because you oversaw the anti
Speaker 3: white bigotry of the left. You were part of it,
Speaker 3: you were complicit in it. And now you're waking up
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, they're gonna eat me too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they are gonna eat you too. They eat me last
Speaker 3: Democrat middle absolute cowards.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 3: I will take you coming over to team Sanity if
Speaker 3: you apologize and you say sorry and you learn your lessons.
Speaker 3: I don't have any faith that this guy is. But
Speaker 3: what's happening on the left, keep your eye on it.
Speaker 3: It is a absolute wedge through the middle of that party,
Speaker 3: where you got Dan Goldman, who's not even being served
Speaker 3: coffee in New York City because he's Jewish, even though
Speaker 3: he's been a total loon and a nut job and
Speaker 3: a far left Democrat himself, and now they hate him
Speaker 3: too because his skin's too white and his Jewishness is
Speaker 3: too prominent. It's wild. It's wild what's happening over there.
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Speaker 3: you have so, I've been ripping off parts of your
Speaker 3: taxonomy of oh right, and it's really helpful. What's interesting
Speaker 3: is that Pew has created a taxonomy of left and right,
Speaker 3: and they've divided it into nine groups. What's interesting is
Speaker 3: what we're examining is that the heartseller immigrants, and I
Speaker 3: would say the nineteen ninety immigrants.
Speaker 2: Again. We expanded legal.
Speaker 3: Green card holders from about half a million a year
Speaker 3: to one point one to one point two million a
Speaker 3: year in nineteen ninety. Democrats and Republicans both guilty of
Speaker 3: this and that wave is the largest move of humanity
Speaker 3: in history and all the planet ever, just by sheer
Speaker 3: volume in numbers. And we've absorbed it, I would say,
Speaker 3: better than most cultures and countries could ever hope to
Speaker 3: absorb something as large as we've absorbed. But yet everybody
Speaker 3: has its limits, and this is supplanted in many ways
Speaker 3: the traditional backbone of the Democrat Party, which would be
Speaker 3: black Americans, progressive whites, moderate white blue dog Dems. And
Speaker 3: so there was a huge wedge being driven in the
Speaker 3: middle of the Democrat coalition and candidly, we should exploit that,
Speaker 3: thoughts that's interesting.
Speaker 8: Well, you know, okay, break that down form, we need
Speaker 8: toy exploit it. What exactly do you mean.
Speaker 2: I think that we should exploit it.
Speaker 3: There's absolutely there was a rise of moderate dem saying
Speaker 3: we still are patriotic, we're not ashamed of America, we
Speaker 3: love America, we still love capitalism.
Speaker 2: Okay, prove it.
Speaker 3: There's only one party now that represents any of those
Speaker 3: ideas well.
Speaker 9: And they want their home and that's what's gonna I
Speaker 9: think that's really going to turn the tide for the
Speaker 9: Democrats moving forward is whenever they actually see, whenever they
Speaker 9: taste and see the fruit, the rotten fruit of the
Speaker 9: heart celler Act and Third World migration. That is what's
Speaker 9: going to change hearts and minds whenever they realize that
Speaker 9: it's not not only I don't use public transportation so
Speaker 9: I don't have to worry about getting sabbed on the subway.
Speaker 8: Okay, it's not just that.
Speaker 9: Whenever they realize I can't even go to the park
Speaker 9: without being like fearing for the lives of my children,
Speaker 9: that's going to.
Speaker 8: Cause a mass ex I mean the exodus.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 9: We have already had a exodus from the madness that
Speaker 9: the Left is promoted over the last however many years,
Speaker 9: but that is going to be I think if we
Speaker 9: can exploit that, if we can spam all the social
Speaker 9: media's all x all Instagram with all these videos demonstrating, hey,
Speaker 9: our societies really are becoming unlivable because they are bringing
Speaker 9: they are they are bringing the third world into our
Speaker 9: country and we are becoming the third World.
Speaker 2: I really do believe that that's not even just immigration related.
Speaker 4: I think you're seeing the Left is really ideologically boxing
Speaker 4: itself into being an ideology of decline and ideology of deprivation.
Speaker 4: There's actually an incredible debate unfolding in Europe right now,
Speaker 4: especially because they're coming here for the World Cup. And
Speaker 4: it's not just that they're seeing how big our stores are.
Speaker 4: They're also seeing, wait, they have air conditioning everywhere in America,
Speaker 4: and they're having a heat wave in England and in
Speaker 4: France right now, and there's stories where people, as Britain
Speaker 4: is having these ninety plus degree temperatures, people are being
Speaker 4: told take out your a C.
Speaker 2: It's illegal.
Speaker 4: You didn't you didn't get the rot permit for you
Speaker 4: don't have the Loisse.
Speaker 8: For the and they're being told that.
Speaker 4: And like we have the left coming out and basically saying, well,
Speaker 4: not having AC is actually a left wing position. We
Speaker 4: shouldn't have AC because it's killing the planets.
Speaker 2: If we can make.
Speaker 4: Politics be where the party that will give you air
Speaker 4: conditioning and the left says we hate air conditioning will
Speaker 4: take it out, we'll be able to win.
Speaker 2: I hope so. I hope so.
Speaker 3: And one of the reasons I'm talking about this is
Speaker 3: because we saw how President Trump was able to appeal
Speaker 3: to more black Americans that candidly they were not as
Speaker 3: ideologically driven in some ways, but they were like, hey,
Speaker 3: I had more money in my pocket.
Speaker 2: When President Trump wasn't all.
Speaker 3: And listen, crime was being dealt with, we didn't have
Speaker 3: this like, you know, kind of loose notions of just
Speaker 3: soft on crime and no cashless.
Speaker 2: Bail and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: So I think these are the issues that where you
Speaker 3: can sort of expand a tent moving forward in the left.
Speaker 3: And listen, I am not one of those people who says, oh,
Speaker 3: what's happening in New York is a good thing, because
Speaker 3: we're gonna you know, no, that's a bad thing. The
Speaker 3: fact that we're even here is abysmal. It is an
Speaker 3: absolute It's an indictment of so many years of failed
Speaker 3: political policies, both from the left and the right. Okay,
Speaker 3: so we're here, and I'm going to deal with what
Speaker 3: is true right now. And I do think that there
Speaker 3: is a wedge issue emerging within the left coalition where
Speaker 3: you have sort of these blue dog Democrats. You have
Speaker 3: white Democrats that kind of like, you know, their jobs
Speaker 3: and their lives, and you have blacks and Latinos that
Speaker 3: want a good economy and they want law and order
Speaker 3: and they don't.
Speaker 2: Want an open border.
Speaker 3: Those are the issues that can sort of expand the tent.
Speaker 3: President Trump showed the way a little bit in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, and we should exploit that to the max.
Speaker 8: I think that's good.
Speaker 9: I'm reading on that note a book called The Camp
Speaker 9: of the Saints right now, highly docommand amazing book.
Speaker 8: I mean it's amazing. It's also a big black pill.
Speaker 2: And it's a black pilling book. It's a traumatizing book.
Speaker 4: What I'd say stands out about it is it was
Speaker 4: written in sixty nine, seventy, yes, and it feels so
Speaker 4: much more modern than that in terms of how it
Speaker 4: recognizes the nature of the left.
Speaker 9: Well, just to give you a brief to let people
Speaker 9: understand what the narrative is, it's basically the destruction of
Speaker 9: Western society, not because of a fascistic government like the
Speaker 9: other dystopian novels of that era. Rather, it is the
Speaker 9: destruction of Western civilization because a fleet of millions of
Speaker 9: migrants come to Western shores, particularly the shores of France,
Speaker 9: and no, the West does nothing to stop them, because
Speaker 9: they don't have the heart to maintain their own vilization
Speaker 9: and stop this this invasion that's coming to their borders.
Speaker 9: But what's interesting that makes me think the reason I
Speaker 9: brought it up is because even the immigrants who currently
Speaker 9: live in France at the time, they go, you guys
Speaker 9: don't understand. You can't, you cannot let this happen. I
Speaker 9: left those countries. I know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: I've had that conversation in countless ubers. Yes, I will
Speaker 3: never forget. I was sitting with a Haitian, which is
Speaker 3: obviously in the news right now, and this Haitian was like,
Speaker 3: I hate Haitians.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, that's a little bit of ress.
Speaker 2: I would never Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was just like, you know, we're all made in
Speaker 3: the image and likeness of God and all that. He said, well, yes,
Speaker 3: but I fled there, and you do not want to
Speaker 3: bring these people here. Why is this in the news
Speaker 3: right So the judge the Supreme Court rather just finally
Speaker 3: ruled on the TPS, which, by the way, they've had
Speaker 3: TPS since you know, like over a decade or whatever.
Speaker 3: T p S stands for temporary temporary protected status, which
Speaker 3: means you go home when the crisis is averted. And
Speaker 3: I just love ste Miller. I text I tweeted out
Speaker 3: last night that he's a total legend because he is
Speaker 3: just cool calm and collected.
Speaker 2: Be more like this.
Speaker 3: If somebody comes in and confronts you about immigration itsp.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight should consider Haiti a safe country for Haitians? Absolutely,
Speaker 2: for yes, so for I mean yes, Haitians live in Haiti.
Speaker 2: It's not our position that Haitians should leave Haiti.
Speaker 10: I mean it would be it'd be crazy for us
Speaker 10: to say that Haitians couldn't live in Haiti is their country.
Speaker 2: Of course Haitians should live in Handy, that's common sense.
Speaker 3: Why is that contra No, but that's you gotta understand
Speaker 3: that this is hatred and bigoted and racist and all
Speaker 3: this stuff.
Speaker 2: He goes on.
Speaker 3: I just love Steven Miller clips. So here we're gonna
Speaker 3: play some more Top twenty four.
Speaker 11: Do you expect the administration to deport anyone who loses
Speaker 11: to he has status as.
Speaker 2: A result of this ruling? Well, of course if you
Speaker 2: if you no longer have status in this country, then.
Speaker 10: You're supposed to be deported, And in particular in the
Speaker 10: case of the Haitians. I thought an administration flew over
Speaker 10: vast numbers. It's hard to know these acts number. They're
Speaker 10: probably more than a Miliaegal Immigrants from Haiti. And that's
Speaker 10: not counting the border crossers here to the United States.
Speaker 10: So people have only been here for a few months.
Speaker 10: We're receiving welfare. Who's all their ties, all their social connections,
Speaker 10: all their family is back in their home country of Haiti.
Speaker 2: And of course that's where they should I love the answer.
Speaker 3: Well, of course, if you no longer have status in
Speaker 3: this country, then you're supposed to be deported.
Speaker 2: Easy, simple, That's where they should go.
Speaker 8: It's very simple. And I get this on campus all
Speaker 8: the time.
Speaker 9: It's like even from conservatives, you know, supposed conservatives that
Speaker 9: for some reason they seem to believe that we have
Speaker 9: some kind of moral responsibility to bring people into our country.
Speaker 8: They're like, yes, we could maybe reduce the immigrant talk about.
Speaker 3: That, because a lot of this is a bastardization of scripture.
Speaker 9: Now, that's exactly right, okay, And obviously I was a
Speaker 9: pastor before I do what I do now, which is
Speaker 9: just like make libs mat on the internet, so which
Speaker 9: is a.
Speaker 2: Lot of fun. Good at it.
Speaker 9: I'm good at it because what I do is I
Speaker 9: just say what the Bible says. And it turns out
Speaker 9: the Overton window has gone so far to the left
Speaker 9: that you're not even allowed to say out loud what
Speaker 9: the Word of God says. So that's what I do.
Speaker 9: But it's very important to understand that what's going on
Speaker 9: with this mass migration crisis that we're facing, it is
Speaker 9: it we should treat it like an invasion, and it's
Speaker 9: what is what is an invasion when we're thinking metaphysically, well,
Speaker 9: the God of the universe, the creator of all has
Speaker 9: told us that whenever he judges nations, he judges them
Speaker 9: by bringing invading forces in right, and.
Speaker 3: So why you know why this is I'm sorry, go
Speaker 3: ahead and keep going, but this just I always think
Speaker 3: about this that we've basically let in as many immigrants,
Speaker 3: maybe a few more than babies we've killed.
Speaker 2: That's about right.
Speaker 3: Since roevi w it's about right. And so if you're
Speaker 3: talking about a judgment on a nation.
Speaker 9: We are a blood soaked America and God, God is
Speaker 9: a just and righteous God. Now he is merciful to
Speaker 9: his people, and we cry out for mercy. And by
Speaker 9: by the grace of God, all of us we are baptized.
Speaker 9: We know the Lord. We will stand before him covered
Speaker 9: by the righteousness of Christ. But God judges nations as
Speaker 9: moral entities. And this is something that's very import God
Speaker 9: treats nations. He judges them based on their actions. And
Speaker 9: so even though a nation may have a lot of
Speaker 9: good people in it, God will bring about judgment. I
Speaker 9: look at Sodom and Gomorrah. Right, God judges nations we
Speaker 9: look at but look at Nineveh. Look at in the
Speaker 9: Book of Amos, He's casting judgments upon pagan nations for
Speaker 9: not submitting to God's law. So we know, like, what
Speaker 9: what ultimately has to happen is that we must repent.
Speaker 9: We must turn away from murdering seventy million babies. We
Speaker 9: got to acknowledge that, hey, we let this happen. Yeah
Speaker 9: it was the Libs, Yeah they pushed for it.
Speaker 8: But what did we do?
Speaker 9: What did we do to stop it? Almost nothing for
Speaker 9: so long? And so we are living in a blood
Speaker 9: soaked America under God's judgment. But God is also merciful.
Speaker 9: He's merciful, and it's we are not. We haven't gone
Speaker 9: over the precipice yet.
Speaker 2: We need to pray for Him to heal our land.
Speaker 3: And this is h Listen, I've got no like I
Speaker 3: want to be very clear because even my mother sometimes
Speaker 3: she's like, you're going a little too hard on I
Speaker 3: don't hate that. There's a micro and a macro that
Speaker 3: you have to understand with this stuff. The micro is that, yes,
Speaker 3: I meet immigrants, I love them, they are sweet people.
Speaker 3: And then there's a macro where a nation has an
Speaker 3: obligation to not flood its borders with foreigners, with foreign
Speaker 3: ideas and foreign gods. And that is exactly what we've
Speaker 3: done in this country and we need to stop it
Speaker 3: because it is tearing us apart. And you look at
Speaker 3: New York, look at Mayor Mom, Donnie, look at Chevalier.
Speaker 3: These people hate Western civilization, they hate what you stand for,
Speaker 3: and they probably hate you. So if that makes me
Speaker 3: un Christian to defend my home, then I think you're
Speaker 3: the one with bad theology.
Speaker 2: Team. Do we have these images? Can I throw these up?
Speaker 3: I just want to give a shout out to our
Speaker 3: Turning Point Action team. There is so much going on
Speaker 3: on campus right now that it was just like tons
Speaker 3: of people coming in and out. This is a war
Speaker 3: machine and I love it. So this is Turning Point Action.
Speaker 3: This is the largest Arizona class ever. What are these
Speaker 3: people doing? They're being trained up in chasing ballots to
Speaker 3: win in November. We're teaching them how to go door
Speaker 3: to door, send text messages, harassed kindly to people to
Speaker 3: get their ballots in and to encourage them and explain
Speaker 3: to them the way the process works. I will I'm
Speaker 3: not kidding you in twenty twenty four. You will be
Speaker 3: blown away to this. We had stories of ballot chasers
Speaker 3: like these that are getting trained right now and being
Speaker 3: sent out that that we go to a house where
Speaker 3: the gentleman had like a Trump shrine, like a shrine devoted.
Speaker 8: A big waving flag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like in the Yeah, like a little bit much admittedly,
Speaker 3: but the point is that person didn't vote.
Speaker 2: Didn't vote.
Speaker 4: We'd come in and we'd say, we think we're at
Speaker 4: the wrong address because this person supposed to hasn't voted,
Speaker 4: you know, since you know twenty sixteen.
Speaker 8: Ah yeah, man, I keep forgetting about it.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 3: So this is what we have to do to save
Speaker 3: our country. And I'm so proud of the Turning Point
Speaker 3: Action Team. Every day they're hitting the ground running, getting
Speaker 3: these people into the office, hiring, hiring, hiring, and we're
Speaker 3: doing that in not only Arizona, We're doing that in Nevada,
Speaker 3: in New Hampshire. We have offices in all three states.
Speaker 3: We're building the Red Wall simultaneously. We have guys like
Speaker 3: Joshua Hayines and we're doing a whole big training.
Speaker 2: Do you want to tell them about this? Pick up
Speaker 2: the mic?
Speaker 3: Right, So you already went to campuses with.
Speaker 2: Us in the.
Speaker 3: Last semester, in the spring semester, and we're bringing the
Speaker 3: gang back together. We're bringing new faces, new names, people
Speaker 3: that are trying to take these conservative ideas to college
Speaker 3: campuses and have those debates, those clips that go viral.
Speaker 2: Tell us about it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm so excited to be a part of it.
Speaker 9: I actually went on campus the day after the assassination,
Speaker 9: like mice. My heart swelled in my chest for these
Speaker 9: young people.
Speaker 8: And I knew. So I was a pastor before, Like
Speaker 8: I said, I was a pastor.
Speaker 9: Before I do what I do know, and I knew
Speaker 9: that these young people were desperate. I didn't know the
Speaker 9: effect and the impact and how far reaching char Kirk,
Speaker 9: the impact of Charlie Kirk was until I went on
Speaker 9: campus and saw the I mean, these young men were
Speaker 9: just deflated like it was. I mean, heads down in
Speaker 9: sackcloth and ashes basically, and so I went there and
Speaker 9: I actually did a tabling event.
Speaker 2: Well I did.
Speaker 9: I went and just like spoke to the students the
Speaker 9: day after it happened, and then a week later I
Speaker 9: did an event and uh, it was my first event
Speaker 9: like that, And within twenty minutes we had probably eight
Speaker 9: hundred students surrounding the table.
Speaker 8: They were desperate for it.
Speaker 9: And as I came out there, and my entire mission
Speaker 9: in life at this point besides saving Western civilization and
Speaker 9: doing everything I can to do that, and the way
Speaker 9: that well, the way that I believe that that's going
Speaker 9: the Western civilization is going to be saved is by
Speaker 9: training up a new generation of young men who will
Speaker 9: unapologetically apply their faith in politics and culture. So we
Speaker 9: need we need conservative politics that is rooted.
Speaker 8: And grounded in the eternal.
Speaker 9: So that's my whole project, is to take these young
Speaker 9: men who are right on the issues there, but they
Speaker 9: don't know why they're right, and so to ground them
Speaker 9: in the eternal. And so having the opportunity to do
Speaker 9: this college tour gives me a lot of FaceTime. Of course,
Speaker 9: it's fun to own dunk on the Libs. That's easy,
Speaker 9: but Honestly, what's been more exciting for me is talking
Speaker 9: with these conservatives and having it out on the ideas
Speaker 9: and them realizing, wait a second, I have this like
Speaker 9: gut instinct to like mass deportations, but they don't even
Speaker 9: know why that's morally right. They have no idea why
Speaker 9: they don't have the words. They don't have the words,
Speaker 9: or they don't have the theological grounding. They haven't rooted
Speaker 9: their politics in the eternal. And that's what I'm trying
Speaker 9: to train people to do, is to say, hey, you're right,
Speaker 9: but you need to know why you're right actually, and
Speaker 9: you need to be grounded.
Speaker 3: And and so what we've done is we're actually bringing
Speaker 3: in all these people like Joshua that are into Phoenix,
Speaker 3: and we're doing you know, coaching debate, coaching training and
Speaker 3: kind of going through debate one on one, understanding the
Speaker 3: difference in an assertion and acclaim and defensive and offensive debate.
Speaker 3: It's really fascinating stuff. And we're going through the of
Speaker 3: leftism and all this stuff. It was it was a great,
Speaker 3: great class yesterday. It's just like a great time. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you went over to the other building, I was
Speaker 3: hooping and hollering and clapping and like dunking on people.
Speaker 2: I mean, and I love that. Everybody seemed to get
Speaker 2: into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they embraced the dynamism of it that you've got
Speaker 3: to have fun with this or.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be too much of a drag and they'll
Speaker 4: know you hate it. And Charlie, one of the key
Speaker 4: things he was getting at is if you're gonna have
Speaker 4: someone jeer at you, if they know they're getting under
Speaker 4: your skin, if they know that you're flustered, if they
Speaker 4: know you're unhappy, they are going to absolutely run wild.
Speaker 2: But if you're playing to the crowd.
Speaker 4: And saying like yeah, come on, or if you're asking it,
Speaker 4: if you're basking in it, if you're getting your own
Speaker 4: jobs back, they want to see a good fight. It's
Speaker 4: it's kind of like that movie Gladiator with Russell Crowe
Speaker 4: and the guy's telling him.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's not enough to win the fight.
Speaker 8: You want the crowd has to be entertained. That's right,
Speaker 8: that's right.
Speaker 2: Well, and so we went all through all of that.
Speaker 3: How people it's funny they go is the debate that's
Speaker 3: a big question again, is the debate that you're engaged
Speaker 3: in is it to win over the person across from you,
Speaker 3: or is it to create viral e clips? And my
Speaker 3: answer to that is simple, Yes, very simple, very simple,
Speaker 3: and I do.
Speaker 2: Have to get to day. Joshua, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Breaking judge in Palisades fire trial declares mistrial with jurors
Speaker 3: unable to reach unanimous decision. Ten out of the twelve
Speaker 3: jurors are set on not guilty for Jonathan render Neck
Speaker 3: and two set on guilty.
Speaker 2: This guy was reading about that.
Speaker 4: It seems like they don't have much physical evidence proving.
Speaker 3: This guy's a Luigi almost certainly aficionado. And I mean,
Speaker 3: just show a picture of him. I got a picture
Speaker 3: of him. This is no, that's that's the guy. And
Speaker 3: this is why the third worldization of our cities, it
Speaker 3: ultimately has a downstream knock on effect when it comes
Speaker 3: to getting accountability and justice for people that just ruined
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of people's lives.
Speaker 2: That's frustrating.
Speaker 9: Yes, I mean well, turning back to the classic line,
Speaker 9: the third world is not a place, it's a people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some cultures are better than others anywaymen, even within
Speaker 3: the United States.
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Speaker 3: We have some special guests in studio because, as I
Speaker 3: mentioned in our one, there's a lot of activity at
Speaker 3: campus and we love it want to celebrate it. We've
Speaker 3: got Kate Scott. You can find her on Instagram at
Speaker 3: White Squirrel Magic.
Speaker 2: That's right, I love it.
Speaker 3: We've got hold on Shark Khan. I didn't want to
Speaker 3: get it wrong, that's all I'm saying. Shark Khan and
Speaker 3: you can find him on Instagram at Real Shark Khan,
Speaker 3: which is spelled s h a wait. I got s
Speaker 3: h a h r i Q. And you Shark's got
Speaker 3: a great, great story. Uh, you are a convert to Christianity, yes,
Speaker 3: from Islam, So I want to get into that in
Speaker 3: just a second. And then we have Lily Kate. You
Speaker 3: can find her on X set. It's Lily Kate, l
Speaker 3: I l y just one el the proper way, that's right.
Speaker 3: All right, So you guys are wanted to go out
Speaker 3: on campus. So we're doing this big training and you
Speaker 3: want to pick up the mic just like, let's start there.
Speaker 3: How has your experience been doing the doing the training.
Speaker 12: Has been fun, absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: We get debate training, we get media training, we get
Speaker 12: prepped on all the all the different briefs, all the
Speaker 12: different topics. So I'm just even more excited to go out.
Speaker 2: Did you guys get dunked on yesterday?
Speaker 9: Like for sure?
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, that's an important first step, I will tell you. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's really exciting. So these are just a I mean
Speaker 3: there's dozens of people next door actually that are that
Speaker 3: are going out and uh they're gonna be on campus
Speaker 3: and doing debates, trying to bring conservative ideas and conservative
Speaker 3: values to students and uh debate the ideas. It's a
Speaker 3: really beautiful thing. But Shark, I want to ask you
Speaker 3: about this. So you we've spent a lot of time
Speaker 3: talking about the rise of Islam in the West. You
Speaker 3: are a Christian and you have a ministry reaching out
Speaker 3: to Muslims.
Speaker 2: How about it?
Speaker 13: Yeah, so I grew up about muslim And I'll give
Speaker 13: you a really quick story about just how deep I was.
Speaker 13: My father was one of seventeen from Pakistan. They definitely
Speaker 13: know how to be fruitful and multiply. And he actually
Speaker 13: saw the second plane hit the Twin Towers in New York.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 13: And so it was absolutely, you know, an incredible, incredible
Speaker 13: time in my life where the earliest thing I knew.
Speaker 13: My earliest identity was just that I'm going to be
Speaker 13: a Muslim and that this is who we are. And
Speaker 13: I lived in a blue collar town of firefighters and
Speaker 13: cops and first responders, and truthfully, that led my earliest
Speaker 13: identity to being a Muslim, and I wanted to defend
Speaker 13: it with my entire heart and soul. It was everything
Speaker 13: I knew, everything I bled. It was my mentors of
Speaker 13: doctors and lawyers, all in the community. And the truth
Speaker 13: is I had no issues being a Muslim. I loved it.
Speaker 13: It made so much sense for me. And through trying
Speaker 13: to defend my faith at the highest level, I was
Speaker 13: that Muslim guy on the college campuses that would challenge
Speaker 13: my Christian fraternity brothers their faith. I would try to
Speaker 13: rip their faith away from them. I ended up trying
Speaker 13: to defend the Qoran so much that I would eventually
Speaker 13: see it for what it was, and I lost my faith,
Speaker 13: and in twenty twenty I left Islam, And actually I
Speaker 13: didn't come to christ right away, and two years later
Speaker 13: when I was extremely suicidal, not having any identity, not
Speaker 13: knowing how to engage with this world with no faith.
Speaker 2: So you lose your faith, then you become suicidal.
Speaker 13: Yes, I become suicidal because I'm not Christian. I hadn't
Speaker 13: let Christ into my life to heal me. Yet I
Speaker 13: didn't know what that meant. I wasn't discipled well into Christ.
Speaker 13: Yet I actually would have a dream of Christ and
Speaker 13: he would nail me on the night that I actually
Speaker 13: would revert and pray to Allah. Christ actually met me
Speaker 13: that night, and it was two years later from that
Speaker 13: moment that I would actually become born again. And the
Speaker 13: faith meant so much to me now that I said,
Speaker 13: you know, as as somebody who finally encountered Christ, I
Speaker 13: met Jesus through reading the Quran, that this conviction I
Speaker 13: had that every religion has to encounter Christ in some way.
Speaker 13: You have to deal with Christ in some way. When
Speaker 13: I found out who the true Christ was, it was
Speaker 13: the moment that sin fell from my soul and I
Speaker 13: felt the race for the first time ever. And now
Speaker 13: I've dedicated my entire life to building this ministry, to
Speaker 13: baring my cross. The thing in Islam that was going
Speaker 13: to take me off this earth. I now proudly wear
Speaker 13: as a badge of who Christ is. And I firmly
Speaker 13: believe that Islam is a sin that will end in
Speaker 13: our generation. I firmly believe that the cross is big
Speaker 13: enough for the two billion Muslims, and I firmly believe
Speaker 13: that our generation is going to see a revival in
Speaker 13: Islam of Muslims that is going to strengthen our church.
Speaker 13: They're going to become Christians, and it's going to be
Speaker 13: one of the most beautiful moments of who Jesus Christ
Speaker 13: really is.
Speaker 2: And shining in that moment. Wow, God, bless you man.
Speaker 2: That gives me so much.
Speaker 3: Let's just say it's such a good take on all
Speaker 3: of the Islamification sort of negativity that we've been hearing
Speaker 3: and thinking about. And you look at mom Donnie, and
Speaker 3: you look at what's happening in New York and it's
Speaker 3: a beautiful thing. And we talked about an hour one
Speaker 3: actually with Joshua Haims that you know, there is a judgment,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 2: Believe it's linked to abortion.
Speaker 3: Actually, if you look at all the immigration that we've
Speaker 3: had in it's roughly one to one how many babies
Speaker 3: we've killed.
Speaker 2: Surprise, surprise.
Speaker 3: But God is also a merciful god and he will
Speaker 3: heal our land. And we do need to repent, and
Speaker 3: we do need to seek him out. And it's just
Speaker 3: beautiful that you're a part of God's redemption plan for
Speaker 3: this story, for this country. And we could go on
Speaker 3: for a long time, but I have to play the
Speaker 3: Miss Rachel clips.
Speaker 2: It's a nice sege, Mom Donnie.
Speaker 3: It's a total it's a it's the awkward, most awkward
Speaker 3: segue I've had in a while.
Speaker 2: But Kate, Kate Scott, here we go. You are making fun.
Speaker 3: Of Miss Rachel, who is huge, and she's basically a
Speaker 3: commie huge with kids, she's getting weirder and weirder, and
Speaker 3: so you took it upon yourself to take her on.
Speaker 2: And this is the Mom Donnie clip. There you go.
Speaker 2: That will that'll be the the glue here top thirty five.
Speaker 14: My friend.
Speaker 11: Today's letter is M for Mom Johnny. Mom Donnie is brawn, right,
Speaker 11: which is better than what good? If Timmy has two
Speaker 11: houses and Deandrey has none, what should Timmy do?
Speaker 15: I know, give him his houses?
Speaker 16: Right?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 2: How is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 17: I mean I don't really have much to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said it all.
Speaker 12: She's a theater girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, well, you're a theater kid, which I've
Speaker 3: been trained to be very leery of and yet here
Speaker 3: you come making me laugh about mom Donnie. I just
Speaker 3: have to play one more because it's so funny. Ice clip,
Speaker 3: my friend.
Speaker 15: Today's letter is I for illegal aliens? I mean it's
Speaker 15: supposed to say ice. Do you know they I say it?
Speaker 15: And the ice agent, the ice agent? Do you know
Speaker 15: the ice agent? The answer in spanishes.
Speaker 18: No, remember kids, plead the or the sec Yes.
Speaker 2: That's really funny.
Speaker 3: I noticed it was like hard for you to watch yourself,
Speaker 3: but these have gone viral.
Speaker 17: They really have. You got to give the people what
Speaker 17: they want.
Speaker 3: It's really funny. I wonder if our audience is familiar
Speaker 3: with miss Rachel. If you're a parent, you're familiar with
Speaker 3: mister Rachel. It's like YouTube pushes it right up to
Speaker 3: the top of your feet.
Speaker 17: I think it's a whole liberal young adults are really
Speaker 17: fond of Miss Rachel as well too, for some reason,
Speaker 17: because they're in my comment section anger.
Speaker 2: Yes, what do they say her too?
Speaker 17: That she's a saint, that she's a true Christian, she
Speaker 17: is compared to mister Rogers and her you know, social
Speaker 17: justice and everything. She's she's everything I'll.
Speaker 2: Never be Wait, is she does she not have kids herself.
Speaker 2: She does, she does.
Speaker 17: She I believe she has two. One was actually through
Speaker 17: surrogusy so in.
Speaker 2: Fact, and then she was able to have one herself.
Speaker 17: I believe.
Speaker 2: That there's got to be a story there.
Speaker 3: You should look, you should look into video about how
Speaker 3: liberal commies don't actually want to bear their own children.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it was a medical condition. I
Speaker 2: don't want to get ahead of myself. That's that's strange.
Speaker 2: Maybe she struggled and you know, all right, whatever.
Speaker 3: So Mick has a question that I want to read
Speaker 3: to you, guys, said, He says, please read for me.
Speaker 3: He goes for the guests, what is the toughest part
Speaker 3: of the debates and pick up the mics and what
Speaker 3: is the most gratifying part of it?
Speaker 2: We'll start, we'll go, we'll go in this order.
Speaker 17: Sure, I mean, I would say the toughest part is
Speaker 17: you don't know what they're going to ask. I think
Speaker 17: there's the improv to bring it back to theater. There's
Speaker 17: the improv element there. And then the most rewarding is
Speaker 17: that was that the second part he said, most rewarding
Speaker 17: is changing someone's mind. Of course, that they can't.
Speaker 2: Prove is wrong, either in person or online.
Speaker 17: Right right, and then sorry. More than that is when
Speaker 17: you do change their mind ultimately.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Love that.
Speaker 12: The toughest part is students will come up with a
Speaker 12: vague impression of an idea with no sites, no examples,
Speaker 12: no facts, and they will ask you about it and
Speaker 12: you'll say, Okay, what exactly are we talking about here,
Speaker 12: and they're like, I don't know. I just saw something
Speaker 12: online about it two weeks ago, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 12: let's get some things tangible. But the most gratifying part
Speaker 12: is I talk to women about why feminisms lied to them,
Speaker 12: why it's a failure as an ideology and we should
Speaker 12: completely move on from it as a country. And usually
Speaker 12: we'll bring people in with those kinds of anti feminist
Speaker 12: statements and they come in and I address them, talk,
Speaker 12: I say their name, I talk to them kindly, I
Speaker 12: smile at them, and they're like, oh, you're not really
Speaker 12: mean and awful and nasty and horrible. And so when
Speaker 12: I'm able to actually give a testament and not be
Speaker 12: exactly what they expect me to be and they actually
Speaker 12: have a good conversation experience with me, that does a
Speaker 12: lot awesome.
Speaker 13: That's amazing. The hardest part, I would say, is separating
Speaker 13: the ideology from the person. And I'll use this Slam
Speaker 13: as a great example, Like I love Muslims so much,
Speaker 13: They're my whole family, my bloodline, my friends, but I
Speaker 13: stand so firmly against Islam that it is not even funny.
Speaker 13: And having to separate your own flesh and like your
Speaker 13: own beliefs around that and just loving the person but
Speaker 13: being so harsh on the truth and radical ideology. That's
Speaker 13: definitely the hardest part, but it's probably the most rewarding
Speaker 13: as well. I will say the most rewarding though, is
Speaker 13: when I'm debating Muslims on college campuses. They the you know,
Speaker 13: the MSA, you know, in Islamic culture, the women are
Speaker 13: not going to engage with the men. And when I'm
Speaker 13: engaging with the men on campus and we catch them
Speaker 13: and we show them some truth or something they didn't know,
Speaker 13: I always look at the crowd and I noticed the
Speaker 13: Muslim women in the hijabs are the ones that are
Speaker 13: watching so intently, almost like taking mental notes, and they
Speaker 13: engage so beautifully with it afterwards, like I would never
Speaker 13: get a chance to talk to them, but seeing somebody
Speaker 13: who they've never seen lose a debate on the Muslim side,
Speaker 13: lose to something like, you know, a basic point that
Speaker 13: I would bring up is the most rewarding thing.
Speaker 3: What are some of the basic points you bring up
Speaker 3: in the Islam debate that like spins their head up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 13: So a lot of people argue Islam as a Christian heresy.
Speaker 13: It's actually a Rabinical Jewish heresy. So what I use
Speaker 13: is I only use the Torah to actually deconstruct just
Speaker 13: the authority of the Qoran. And I really just press
Speaker 13: them on the corruption claim. And the biggest thing I'll
Speaker 13: give you, probably the most powerful one I have right now.
Speaker 13: In Sewer seventeen, verse one oh one, it says, oh,
Speaker 13: children of Israel, you know we clearly gave Moses nine
Speaker 13: clear signs. And it's referring to the ten plagues in
Speaker 13: the Bible. Okay, but in the Kuran it's nine. And
Speaker 13: I press the muslim will guess which plague is missing
Speaker 13: from the Koran?
Speaker 2: Guess what?
Speaker 13: Mhubba never heard of the passover the most important plague.
Speaker 13: And so I'll press the Muslims on, well, can you
Speaker 13: explain the passover? A lot of them can't even do
Speaker 13: it because they've never heard of it. But if they
Speaker 13: can do it, now, I press them. Okay, So, the Passover,
Speaker 13: the festival of unleaven bread, everything in between. It's mentioned
Speaker 13: in the Bible about seventy times. So if you're gonna
Speaker 13: say that my scriptures corrupted, why did you make up
Speaker 13: the Passover, the blowing the doorposts, the passover, lamb, the
Speaker 13: festivals and then practice it all the way from Exodus
Speaker 13: to the Last Supper.
Speaker 2: Well, it's yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: It's a foreshadowing of Jesus being the firstborn son to
Speaker 3: die exactly right, as a sacrifice for our sins as Christians.
Speaker 3: Exactly So that's fascinating that they would leave out probably
Speaker 3: the climax of that story it is, and the one
Speaker 3: that foreshadows Jesus the true Messiah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3: Okay, you brought up feminism and I have the cliploaded now.
Speaker 3: You you went viral for this, and it looks like
Speaker 3: you're basically.
Speaker 8: Having a realization.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll pay it. We'll play it. It's pretty short,
Speaker 3: but I love it. Go ahead and play thirty eight.
Speaker 19: You got.
Speaker 3: That's very short, but you said the caption says, when
Speaker 3: you realize the feminist movement is a government scam so
Speaker 3: they could get the other half of the population working,
Speaker 3: so they could double their tax intake and raise your
Speaker 3: children by their standards.
Speaker 12: Yeah, based, that's exactly what feminism has intended to do.
Speaker 12: And a lot of people think that feminism can take
Speaker 12: credit for getting women the ability to work at all,
Speaker 12: the ability to vote, the ability to wear pants, the
Speaker 12: ability to speak freely. And I have a speaking series
Speaker 12: that I'm doing on a lot of college campuses where
Speaker 12: I bust these feminist myths, like point by point, and
Speaker 12: so my entire life goal is to show women that
Speaker 12: they are actually the victims of feminism and it's time
Speaker 12: to move on. We're not moving back to the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 12: We're not moving back to Victoria.
Speaker 8: But we're not moving back.
Speaker 12: And a lot of people on the right want to
Speaker 12: go back to this like ideological perfect time, but it's
Speaker 12: not gonna happen. We need to move on and pass
Speaker 12: feminism to a spirit of feminism.
Speaker 3: I won't make random statements that contradict yourself. I Anthony,
Speaker 3: Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Please ummute yourself.
Speaker 19: Hey Andrew, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Hey man, what's going on just working.
Speaker 19: You know, hopefully my baseball team can beat your rival tonight,
Speaker 19: but that would be asking a lot.
Speaker 2: We have fifty two wins.
Speaker 19: You have more than me, now, so let's just leave
Speaker 19: it like that. I believe you so actually, so here's
Speaker 19: my question, and it's kind of funny that you got
Speaker 19: the three guests on, so maybe they can answer it
Speaker 19: since they've done training, media and everything. I've seen this
Speaker 19: because I'm on the campaign committee from my local town
Speaker 19: supervisor who's a Republican. We're trying to take back a
Speaker 19: one year term from a far left, stay at home
Speaker 19: thirty seven year old dad who really has never worked.
Speaker 19: Why do Republicans and excuse my language and this, I
Speaker 19: would say, I'll say, suck at messaging. They have communications people,
Speaker 19: they can't communicate anything correctly. They just rather I know, Andrew,
Speaker 19: you and Blake have talk about this. They would rather
Speaker 19: get up there and just give a press conference or
Speaker 19: read off the speech. They can't go off the cusp
Speaker 19: at all.
Speaker 3: Well some of them can. But yeah, you guys, who
Speaker 3: wants to take that one? Why do Republicans suck at
Speaker 3: messaging so bad?
Speaker 17: I'll take it, I think.
Speaker 19: Please, no scary stuff like the Rachel thing that kind
Speaker 19: of had me creeped out with.
Speaker 17: Hey, that means I did a good job. Right, that's
Speaker 17: the point, which is.
Speaker 2: A terrifying cultural phenomenon, and we'll never.
Speaker 14: Forget it, no, I won't.
Speaker 17: I think that it has a lot to do with
Speaker 17: conservatives and Christians abandoning ship. I actually love that sign
Speaker 17: over there. It says do don't give up the ship.
Speaker 17: And I feel like for some reason, the creative gifts
Speaker 17: have been overtaken by liberals. That's actually one of my
Speaker 17: main callings. I would say, like why I'm put on
Speaker 17: this earth is to is to encourage others to use
Speaker 17: gifts that God gave us for his glory without compromise.
Speaker 17: And so for some reason, culturally, when it comes to
Speaker 17: the creative things like marketing or being able to talk
Speaker 17: in front of people with messages, it's it's been abandoned.
Speaker 17: So I don't know why that has occurred, but it's
Speaker 17: time we.
Speaker 2: Part of it.
Speaker 3: Part of an institutional capture like in Hollywood. Right, it
Speaker 3: became dominated by the left, partly because of our inherent wiring,
Speaker 3: but then it just went full crazy, probably around the
Speaker 3: seventies eighties, and then it's gone on till now, and
Speaker 3: you know that's a huge problem. So we need the
Speaker 3: long march back through the institutions, and we need to
Speaker 3: create a counter institutions, parallel institutions as well.
Speaker 2: What do you think thirty seconds?
Speaker 12: Art has always been pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable,
Speaker 12: and typically when you're pushing away from Christianity, you push
Speaker 12: toward the left. And so that is exactly why all
Speaker 12: of our institutions have been quote taken over by the left.
Speaker 12: But you're right, we need a recovery of creativity and
Speaker 12: an embrace of creativity on the right so that we
Speaker 12: can be quote unquote cool again.
Speaker 3: Right, well, ten seconds, I'll let we will pause. I
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Speaker 3: carry it forward. We got our ask us anything, and
Speaker 3: we did a hot swap in the break. Now we
Speaker 3: have Shane Winnings, who is the chairman and CEO of
Speaker 3: Promise Keepers. You can find him on Instagram at Shane
Speaker 3: dot Winnings. That's right, boom, all right, we're gonna get
Speaker 3: into it. He's a great Christian, great debater. He had
Speaker 3: one of the most viral clips from the last uh
Speaker 3: Pick Up the Mic tour during the spring semester. So
Speaker 3: our next up, hold on, I got Elizabeth, Elizabeth, welcome
Speaker 3: to the show.
Speaker 2: Please ummute yourself.
Speaker 16: Hi, thank you so much for taking my call. Absolutely,
Speaker 16: And I'm gonna be a bit cheeky, I know, but
Speaker 16: Jagie Vance watches the show sometimes I would just get
Speaker 16: there out there that Charlie'd be a great name for
Speaker 16: your baby coming in July.
Speaker 2: There it is JD and Usha do you hear that?
Speaker 2: I endorse? Very good? What's your question, Elizabeth?
Speaker 16: Well, the reason I'm calling and I apologize the note
Speaker 16: that I had unfortunately went blank. But basically, when you're
Speaker 16: filling out any kind of immigration forms, whether it be
Speaker 16: for the Green card, coming in for a work visa,
Speaker 16: or anything of that nature, you have to fill out
Speaker 16: in your form that you are not associated with the
Speaker 16: Communist Party or totalitarian regime or communism. So I was thinking,
Speaker 16: if you are a person who loves communism and you
Speaker 16: live on your form, could that be used to denaturalize
Speaker 16: all of these crazy foreign communists and if we also
Speaker 16: use that to clean up our university systems that are
Speaker 16: filled with foreign communists.
Speaker 2: Yes, the short answer is yes.
Speaker 3: And we actually talked about that yesterday on the show,
Speaker 3: that you could actually use that to deport some of
Speaker 3: these dsa radical commis that think they're heading into Congress
Speaker 3: next year.
Speaker 2: You could actually use that to deport and to naturalize them.
Speaker 2: True story.
Speaker 3: Now, have we ever done that, as have we ever
Speaker 3: had the guts to do that? The as Sean Davis said,
Speaker 3: who was on the show when we were talking about,
Speaker 3: do you have the testicular fortitude to do that?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. They do not.
Speaker 3: I would love to see them do this. This is
Speaker 3: a perfect reason to use such a thing. Now you
Speaker 3: have to be very very careful about who you use
Speaker 3: it on. Chevalier would be my choice, okay, and this
Speaker 3: is why, because she started an organization that has proudly
Speaker 3: and loudly claimed publicly that their job is to destroy
Speaker 3: Western civilization. Okay, So if you want to be a
Speaker 3: congresswoman from the state of New York serving the entire
Speaker 3: country from DC, and you want to destroy that country,
Speaker 3: you can get the heck out, Shane, Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: No, I totally agree.
Speaker 20: I mean, even when I was in the military, we
Speaker 20: take an oath to defend everyone and defeat enemies, you know,
Speaker 20: foreign and domestic, and I think we need to recognize
Speaker 20: that these ideologies, they are enemies.
Speaker 2: Of what it means to be an American.
Speaker 20: So the fact that they can exist in this country,
Speaker 20: let alone take positions of power, it's mind blowing to me.
Speaker 20: It feels like we're watching a black Mirror episode and
Speaker 20: we need to do something about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was this, so you can throw this tweet up.
Speaker 3: This was from Esthetica. So the best thing the Trump
Speaker 3: administration could do in response to the communist terrorists being
Speaker 3: elected by New York City Dems is to just denaturalize
Speaker 3: and deport them using the Immigration and Nationality Act and
Speaker 3: the Communists Control Act of nineteen fifty four. They are
Speaker 3: completely within the rights to do this. It will create
Speaker 3: a national scandal, of course it will. Can you imagine
Speaker 3: the ms now segments from if they actually did this,
Speaker 3: It would be apoplectic.
Speaker 2: And totally beautiful. Will watch. It will create a national scandal.
Speaker 3: It will force mainstream Democrats to defend these radical communists,
Speaker 3: which they don't want to do.
Speaker 2: They will want they want to ignore them.
Speaker 3: Most importantly, it sets a precedent and severely hampers the
Speaker 3: long term plans of the DSA communist left.
Speaker 2: Totally agree. I agree.
Speaker 3: So hope that answers your question. It's just gonna take
Speaker 3: some will, That's all it's gonna take.
Speaker 2: Tim. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Please unmute yourself. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 2: thanks for taking our question. Listen.
Speaker 6: We're a homeschool family here in Florida, and our daughter,
Speaker 6: Natalie really likes to study the American Founding and she's
Speaker 6: here beside me.
Speaker 8: She actually has a question she would like to ask.
Speaker 2: Wonderful sweet Hello, my name is Natalie.
Speaker 4: Did Charlie have a favorite Founding father.
Speaker 8: And if so, who was it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Charlie liked a lot of the Founding fathers. I'd
Speaker 3: say I'd heard him quote the you know Madison stuff
Speaker 3: a lot. I've heard him quote Adams a lot. Obviously,
Speaker 3: we all love George Washington, but yeah, Madison, I think,
Speaker 3: because of his contributions to the Federalist Papers was a
Speaker 3: big one. John Jay was another writer of the Federalist Papers,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I would say.
Speaker 2: That's probably my take. I don't know. I wish Blake
Speaker 2: was here for this, but.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Madison would probably be right up there
Speaker 3: at the top of Adams. And Adams had that great
Speaker 3: quote saying that, you know, the Constitution was written for
Speaker 3: a only for a moral and religious people, and was
Speaker 3: inadequate for any other, and so he often quoted that.
Speaker 3: He talked about Thomas pain quite a bit, but Thomas
Speaker 3: Paine ended up kind of embracing the French Revolution, So
Speaker 3: I think he liked his quotes but didn't like the
Speaker 3: trajectory ultimately of his story.
Speaker 2: If that makes sense. Does that answer your question?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Thanks, wonderful. Of course.
Speaker 3: Who do we got next, Gina, Gina, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Please unmute yourself.
Speaker 14: Hi, everybody. I don't mean to be a downer, but
Speaker 14: I have to tell you every time, every time I
Speaker 14: watch your show and Charlie's in the commercials, my heart
Speaker 14: just breaks.
Speaker 16: I can't.
Speaker 14: I was on Charlie's show not long before he passed.
Speaker 14: I was on your show not long after he passed.
Speaker 14: I'm sorry. I was with him before he passed, of course,
Speaker 14: and with you after he passed. I had some questions
Speaker 14: when the Candice thing first hit and I was on
Speaker 14: your show, and then she played a clip of me
Speaker 14: on your show on her show. I'm still I'm not
Speaker 14: I'm not well about it all. There are still so
Speaker 14: many questions, and I don't expect you're going to answer
Speaker 14: those today. I still like to sign on to the
Speaker 14: show from time to time when I can tolerate it.
Speaker 14: I want to ask the question to try to keep
Speaker 14: you guys on track with with the topic that you've
Speaker 14: got going today. My question was your your theater. You
Speaker 14: pointed Andrew to a theater leariness, and I would just
Speaker 14: theater kids just like to know a little bit more
Speaker 14: about why you've got that background. I think it's when
Speaker 14: you share with other people and then You've got theater
Speaker 14: kids right there on your show today.
Speaker 16: So here we go.
Speaker 2: We have one. We made one exception, Gena, I feel so.
Speaker 3: So you're basically wondering, you know how, you know, how
Speaker 3: are we going to protect the country against the rise
Speaker 3: of the theater kid?
Speaker 2: Left? Is that your question?
Speaker 14: Well, that that was that was something else that was
Speaker 14: said right after I pose my first question, And I
Speaker 14: thought that plays right in because yes they do. And
Speaker 14: I don't mean to point fingers.
Speaker 2: That you Well, she's one of the good ones, so
Speaker 2: that's good. But yeah, and so why do you think
Speaker 2: it is that the theater kid, you know, thing is
Speaker 2: a thing? Why? Why are why are they so bent
Speaker 2: that way?
Speaker 17: I thought, I thought about this a lot, and I
Speaker 17: think theater offers a family when you when you do
Speaker 17: a show, you you're with each other for long hours,
Speaker 17: for long periods of time, and uh, you they caught
Speaker 17: like your theater family. And so unfortunately, the kids who
Speaker 17: don't relate to their parents for various reasons find a
Speaker 17: new new family in theater. And unfortunately, because Christians have
Speaker 17: abandoned the theater space, they're performing plays that are leftist
Speaker 17: liberal propaganda, leading them down the path of a terrible life,
Speaker 17: and so that is the moral of the story that
Speaker 17: they're putting on with these shows with their new family,
Speaker 17: and that sounds like the definition of a cult slightly.
Speaker 17: And so it's been like a collection of misfits.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You guys got theories on this.
Speaker 13: You know, whenever I see really masculine men being forced
Speaker 13: into like feminine roles in theater and they get celebrated
Speaker 13: by like the entire school, I'm like, you know, it
Speaker 13: made us not the best thing to do.
Speaker 2: And there used to be some jackman.
Speaker 17: Let's not go there, Okay, don't bring him into So.
Speaker 13: That's my hot take.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to take on this.
Speaker 20: I mean, it is the running joke, like, you know,
Speaker 20: my kid can do anything except drama or theater, and
Speaker 20: I think it's just because of the culture that we're in.
Speaker 20: It would be great if it could shift the other way.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 20: I remember being a young boy doing plays at church
Speaker 20: and that that was cool. But then, you know, the
Speaker 20: first time I did drama in like seventh grade, I
Speaker 20: realized this is a very different animal and maybe that's
Speaker 20: by design. So I think anything we see that's like
Speaker 20: corrupting the minds or tends to have a path that
Speaker 20: the outcomes are kind of the same. I'm going to
Speaker 20: steer away from that unfortunately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that makes me hear sad on some
Speaker 3: level to hear you say that, though, Shane, because I do.
Speaker 3: I think that we need to reclaim the institutions like.
Speaker 2: Long March back. And so when I see like even you.
Speaker 3: Know, Top Gun Maverick for example, you know Tom Cruise
Speaker 3: for all his faults and we could go into them.
Speaker 2: He's a patriot, he loves America.
Speaker 3: And I felt like Maverick was a great Americana film
Speaker 3: and I'd love to see more films like that same.
Speaker 3: And you know, you see this Citizen Vigilante, which is
Speaker 3: a German guy that was just kind of had enough
Speaker 3: and he was just like, hey, I'm gonna tell the
Speaker 3: real story about some of these grooming gangs and things
Speaker 3: like this. You know, film is powerful, and we need theater.
Speaker 3: I want some conservative theater kids that aren't bad at
Speaker 3: their jobs. You know, that's a problem. I think conservative
Speaker 3: sometimes feel restrained by their traditional values.
Speaker 2: And there's something.
Speaker 3: About that medium medium where it it, like you said,
Speaker 3: it's pushing the boundaries. So you're almost like It's almost
Speaker 3: like a PhD student that like their whole thing is
Speaker 3: to come up with new theories, whether or not they're
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Speaker 2: Bio here, Josiah, Welcome to the show. Unmute yourself.
Speaker 21: Hey Tine, thanks for the opportunity. I wanted to ask
Speaker 21: about something I'm passionate about, which is retaining information and
Speaker 21: then be well to particulate it very clearly through communication.
Speaker 21: And I was wondering what tips or things that you
Speaker 21: guys have learned in the communications space, and also if
Speaker 21: there's something as like a boot camp or training that
Speaker 21: would be available to a student to also get on
Speaker 21: that magic as well.
Speaker 2: Why don't you guys answer that? What are you learning?
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've got a quick one for you. So I
Speaker 13: call it's the Big three. It's called read, write, speak.
Speaker 13: If you can't speak, then you need to write more.
Speaker 13: If you can't write a lot, then go read more
Speaker 13: and you can kind of reverse engineer that formula. So
Speaker 13: then now if you want to become an excellent speaker.
Speaker 13: You have a systematic way to do that. So if
Speaker 13: you don't have things to talk about, write more about
Speaker 13: those things. It'll help you with your public speech. You're
Speaker 13: ability to actually like formulate those ideas, live and communicate
Speaker 13: them in an effective way. And if you don't have
Speaker 13: things to write about, well go read some books that
Speaker 13: you're really really passionate about. You can run that system
Speaker 13: for pretty much any knowledge base that you want to have.
Speaker 13: That's what I'd say, that's right.
Speaker 12: I do.
Speaker 20: Yeah, I still use flash cards and I write them myself.
Speaker 20: So I think again writing something down. Now, even the
Speaker 20: Bible talks about in Philippians for like to meditate or
Speaker 20: to dwell, and one of those translations is to write
Speaker 20: at lengths. And so it's like the more you write
Speaker 20: these things, it actually gets ingrained in your brain.
Speaker 2: And then it's just reps.
Speaker 20: You know, when you're talking about the recall, you have
Speaker 20: to get those reps in so that you can lower
Speaker 20: your heart rate, lower your quarterisol, be able to remember
Speaker 20: a lot of people get emotional and hot conversations or
Speaker 20: debates or when they're put on the spot. So I
Speaker 20: think just getting the reps in and knowing you're going
Speaker 20: to be a little rusty in the beginning.
Speaker 17: I have no notes, nothing yet that's spectacular.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, some of the things that we talked about yesterday,
Speaker 3: like I said, is understanding the and Andrew Wilson was
Speaker 3: a great debate was actually teaching part of the debate
Speaker 3: class that we had, So I would recommend checking out
Speaker 3: his stuff because he's he's fantastic and he uses logic
Speaker 3: to deconstruct the the the you know, the assertions of
Speaker 3: the left, if you will. And what's interesting is you
Speaker 3: realize that a lot of people make assertions, they make
Speaker 3: truth claims that are based on zero evidence. So just
Speaker 3: asking great questions is a huge, huge asset to you
Speaker 3: when you debate. Charlie used the Socratic method expertly in
Speaker 3: his debate, So you just say, hey, what evidence do
Speaker 3: you have for that?
Speaker 2: Oh? What have you read the study? You know, you
Speaker 2: just keep probing deeper.
Speaker 3: In and oftentimes in when you're kind of deconstructing somebody
Speaker 3: else's debate, if you can just allow them to make
Speaker 3: a fool of themselves.
Speaker 2: People love seeing that.
Speaker 3: Actually, if you're doing a live debate, for example, they
Speaker 3: love to see dumb people saying dumb things and making
Speaker 3: themselves look dumb doing it. I know that cynical maybe
Speaker 3: to say, obviously we have a heart for the people
Speaker 3: across from us, but if their ideas are poisoning the
Speaker 3: country and they're destructive to our country, it's okay to
Speaker 3: let those ideas expose themselves for being false and ultimately terrible.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You want the idea to look bad, and sometimes that's
Speaker 3: going to mean the people that believe in those ideas
Speaker 3: are going to look bad. So you don't always have
Speaker 3: to be the biggest genius in the room to do that.
Speaker 3: You just let them out themselves and reveal themselves. And
Speaker 3: I mean you I saw a clip of Shane Shane
Speaker 3: went super viral from our spring semester and you just
Speaker 3: kept asking questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just kept what is a fetus? Is it right?
Speaker 2: You were having an abortion debate? Tell us about that? Yeah.
Speaker 20: I mean, you know, again, I'm not a high IQ
Speaker 20: person like Charlie. I don't think we have anybody like Charlie.
Speaker 20: He was one of one of one, and so just
Speaker 20: being myself, I'm like, look, I'm a very common sense person.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 20: I was in the army, So you got to get
Speaker 20: used to speak into, like the private in the room
Speaker 20: who's just out of high school. And so I asked
Speaker 20: a lot of questions, Hey, what do you mean by that? Okay,
Speaker 20: you're going to use this word. What does that mean
Speaker 20: to you? And the more you let them talk one,
Speaker 20: the longer you have to think about what you're going
Speaker 20: to say. But you realize, like you said, they're not
Speaker 20: saying anything of substance. A lot of these kids are
Speaker 20: regurgitating buzzwords or phrases.
Speaker 2: We're regurgitating it.
Speaker 20: They don't know what it even means. And so just
Speaker 20: having a basic understanding of like what does fetus mean?
Speaker 20: It means offspring, little human. Okay, rephrase your sentence. I
Speaker 20: want to be able to kill the little human. And
Speaker 20: it doesn't sound so good. They don't like saying that.
Speaker 20: That's just one way to kind of walk someone into
Speaker 20: a trap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you are particularly good at the faith stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean you're the chairman and CEO of Promise Keepers,
Speaker 3: Tell right about that.
Speaker 20: Yeah, I've been blessed to lead that founded in nineteen
Speaker 20: ninety by Coach McCartney who's in heaven right now with Charlie.
Speaker 20: And you know, we are a National Christian Men's Ministry.
Speaker 20: Our goal is to equip every man in christ to
Speaker 20: become better husband's, fathers, and citizens. We've got to get
Speaker 20: involved as citizens, and so we're grateful. Through conferences, curriculum,
Speaker 20: campus tours, we're raising up the men of America. You
Speaker 20: strengthen the man, you strengthen the family and little plug.
Speaker 20: You know, the number one opposition to a Marxist ideology
Speaker 20: is a strong family led by a strong man.
Speaker 2: That's BKA aims to raise up amen.
Speaker 3: It was interesting I was talking with Andrew Wilson yesterday
Speaker 3: and he he was like, you know, asking kind of
Speaker 3: like postman. If you know anything about Andrew Wilson, he's
Speaker 3: like the Darth Vader of the right.
Speaker 2: He's like, he's a pretty savage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's great though, and the orthodox Christian guy. But
Speaker 3: he was like, hey, so you know, challenge me to
Speaker 3: articulate our vision at turning point.
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, it hasn't changed. He's like, well,
Speaker 2: what is it?
Speaker 12: You know?
Speaker 3: And I was like, I was like, it's too empower
Speaker 3: gen Z to live out the American dream, to have
Speaker 3: ba get married, afford a family, not be debt slaves,
Speaker 3: and to pursue their Christian faith boldly and proudly and
Speaker 3: get in.
Speaker 2: The public square.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like that's because that is the bedrock
Speaker 3: of any country. It is you need strong men. You
Speaker 3: need strong women too, absolutely. But there's been such an
Speaker 3: assault against young men. And I think that's ultimately where
Speaker 3: Charlie shines so much, is that he gave young men
Speaker 3: the courage of their own conviction to speak loudly and
Speaker 3: proudly and unapologetically in the face of you know, this
Speaker 3: toxic masculinity and this you know, these accusations that are
Speaker 3: hurled on young men to cow us and you know,
Speaker 3: put us in a low position. No, we are meant
Speaker 3: to be strong, our shoulders broad and fully confident right.
Speaker 20: And women want to follow a strong man. And a
Speaker 20: strong man is not lording over a woman. He's not
Speaker 20: dragging her along, He's leading her. You know, just like
Speaker 20: if I was dropped off in a jungle with my family,
Speaker 20: I'm not a mile ahead of them, I'm just one
Speaker 20: step ahead. I'm taking the hits first. That's what a
Speaker 20: godly man does a leader, and so be a man
Speaker 20: worth following and.
Speaker 3: Be inspired by these these young people that are going
Speaker 3: out on campus leading ministries, both of you leading the theater.
Speaker 3: Kid charge back in the UH and they're taking, they're taking,
Speaker 3: they're picking up the man on, they're picking up the mic,
Speaker 3: and we're proud of them and we're grateful for them
Speaker 3: to be with us here on campus. Is we try
Speaker 3: and win the next generation, for for the country, for
Speaker 3: Christ and for the future.
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