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Speaker 1: This chapter is long. I remember to turn the day.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back to the Real Deal Podcast with Abby Johnson

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Speaker 2: and Reagan Long.

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Speaker 1: Where we deliver the Real.

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Speaker 2: Dealty all completely unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone, Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: We are so let me think here, when this runs, Abby,

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Speaker 2: it is going to be like a week and a

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Speaker 2: half out from Christmas. Today's December ninth, when we're recording

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Speaker 2: by the Tennis ayres, It's going to be about a

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Speaker 2: week and a half. Like didn't it seem it was

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Speaker 2: like August and then like zendor October, remember, and like

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Speaker 2: here we are too dumber.

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Speaker 1: My gosh, so fast, so fast, so fast. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where. I don't know where. It's time.

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Speaker 2: It's like it was like twenty twenty and now we're

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Speaker 2: like I'm just seeing twenty twenty six everywhere. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I know, like is a mom this is such like

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Speaker 2: a mom thing to say, But like these last five

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Speaker 2: six years have just I'm just like, whoa, Okay, here

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Speaker 2: we are, here we are.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. It's the last year of high

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Speaker 1: school for Kendall.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh no, gosh, so we're in the process. So

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Speaker 2: of course you've been through this with Grace, and Grace's

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Speaker 2: in our first year of college, so you know, we're

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Speaker 2: doing the college tours and the college applications and the

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Speaker 2: essays and all the things. And I, you know, I

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Speaker 2: have a very controversial take on college, and I've been

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Speaker 2: very upfront about it, and I think you probably would

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Speaker 2: agree with me on some points. But I think I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty polarizing on it, and I am. And again, this

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Speaker 2: is me. I went to college to get a degree,

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Speaker 2: and I have a dual credential in elementary and special ed.

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Speaker 2: It's all I ever wanted to do. I knew there

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Speaker 2: was no money in it. I just loved kids, especially

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Speaker 2: my gosh, my special led kids were just my angels. Literally,

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Speaker 2: my angels. Loved it. And then you know, when I

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Speaker 2: started having babies, I was like, oh my gosh. When

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Speaker 2: I was at home, I was having guilt of all

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Speaker 2: the work I had to do for school, and you know,

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Speaker 2: and then when I was at school, all I wanted

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Speaker 2: jews behold with my babies. And Kendall's looking into education.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, I'm like, I just feel.

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Speaker 1: Kendall would be great. Kendle would be such a good teacher.

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Speaker 2: So great, and that's what she just keeps getting pulled

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Speaker 2: back to. And you know, I'm like, we just got

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Speaker 2: to pray about it. This is between you and God,

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Speaker 2: like you have to, you know, because again you have

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Speaker 2: to discuss with your kids the pros and cons. And yes,

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Speaker 2: there's no money in it, but there needs to be angel.

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Speaker 3: No, it's better, it's better now, it's I mean, teachers

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Speaker 3: are not it's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's we need angels of teachers, and Kendall would

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Speaker 2: be by far just insanely good at it. And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter the like, if this is your gift,

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Speaker 2: if this is your calling, and this is where God

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Speaker 2: wants you, like, you've got to do it, like this

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Speaker 2: is where you're gifted.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think public school teachers around here are

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Speaker 3: getting paid like seventy eighty grand?

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Speaker 2: Are they? You know, I'm not even sure when it's

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Speaker 2: here in North Carolina, I just know it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's not bad. You get summer's.

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Speaker 2: Off, right, and you get the holidays.

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Speaker 1: I mean seventy eighty grand.

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Speaker 3: I mean right, I know the work is hard, but

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Speaker 3: like right, dang, and I mean I.

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Speaker 1: Think it's a pretty good deal. I think it's pretty

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Speaker 1: good deal.

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Speaker 2: I would. I will go to my grave saying teachers

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Speaker 2: are overworked and underpaid. I will go to my grave

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Speaker 2: saying that. But I also, you know, the whole college thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm just such a stickler, man, I'm just such a

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Speaker 1: Way way too many.

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Speaker 2: You know, young adults are graduating with an insurmountable amount

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Speaker 2: you know, but they have their piece of paper, and

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Speaker 2: But I do think, and we've talked about this, Abby,

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Speaker 3: I believe that if a kid cannot fund their college,

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Speaker 3: that if parents or scholarships or grants cannot fund a

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Speaker 3: that kids should take out student loans to go to college.

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Speaker 3: We are fortunate, now, you know, Grace is at Auve Maria.

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Speaker 3: It's a private school. It's not cheap. No school is cheap,

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Speaker 3: private university, at public universities, at State of Texas, she

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Speaker 3: was looking at going to Texas A and M. It

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Speaker 3: so it's not It is not cheap anywhere. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: The additional scholarship she's on the dance team, so she

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Speaker 3: various things that she received her. The actual amount of

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Speaker 3: something for a year to save up money. Because I

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Speaker 3: would not ever allow any of my children to go

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Speaker 3: to school on a loan.

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Speaker 2: And I think kids don't understand that.

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Speaker 3: They yeah, I had student loans when I graduated, and

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Speaker 3: it was a burden until that balance was at zero.

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Speaker 3: And you know, my son Alex then will be the

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Speaker 3: More of like a professional sort of you know, something

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Speaker 3: to have to get good grades. He's going to have

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Speaker 3: help some, but he's going to have to get scholarships

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Speaker 3: student loans. And you know, my next Luke, you know,

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Speaker 3: he talks about going to seminary. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: We'll be able to fund that, help them fund that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I'm I'm I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't think scholar I don't think loans

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Speaker 3: should be available for education. If you want to go

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Speaker 3: find scholarships, you do something. But you know, are your

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Speaker 3: parents can take out loans in their name if they

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Speaker 3: need to. But I think the amount of money, but

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Speaker 3: also college tuition needs to come down.

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Speaker 2: And that college tuition needs to come down, and interest

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Speaker 2: rates need to come down after the fact. And I think,

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Speaker 2: and again, when kids sign up for this, or young

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Speaker 2: they don't, Abby, they don't have no idea. They don't

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Speaker 2: have no idea what they're committing to. And because now

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Speaker 2: across the board, in especially public education, what they're being

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Speaker 2: taught is not truly life skills. They're not being taught

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Speaker 2: they want it that way. How do we these credit

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Speaker 2: card companies, these institutions, the banks, they just stay wealthy,

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Speaker 2: do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Row borrow bars well, and I do feel bad. I

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Speaker 3: conservatives will be like, well that's what you get. You

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Speaker 3: I'm like, they don't know, right, they don't know, and

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Speaker 3: there's because we haven't taught them.

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Speaker 1: How would they know, right? I do feel bad for them.

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Speaker 3: I see these girls like bawling their faces off because

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Speaker 3: making an entry level wage, and they're like, how am

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Speaker 1: I can't pay this. They're crying.

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Speaker 3: They're interest rate is like at five percent or something,

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Speaker 3: being annoyed with them and saying, well, you know, that's

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Speaker 3: they shouldn't have been allowed to take out that much money, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're seventeen, eighteen, nineteen years old when they're

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Speaker 3: taking out loans each semester for sometimes forty fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: They don't know what they're doing. They don't have the

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Speaker 3: kidding me? That's like mafia money.

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Speaker 2: And we've programmed them, We've conditioned them that this is

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Speaker 2: just the next step. This is what you're supposed to do. So, oh,

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Speaker 2: everyone else. Okay, it's fine, no problem, no.

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Speaker 1: Problem, there's a bunch of loans.

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Speaker 2: Will give it to you. And so again it's just

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Speaker 2: like and I mean, I went to a private college.

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Speaker 2: I remember when my aunt, my aunt was my youn

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Speaker 2: me fill out my application and she's like, heg, this

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Speaker 2: literally praise God. I did get I mean, it was

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Speaker 2: I did get some academic scholarships. I did get some

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Speaker 2: decent help for having parents at the poverty level where

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, this is poor though finally it's working

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Speaker 2: out in my favorite hat. But I mean it's just like, yeah, kids,

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Speaker 2: it's just like, well, this is the next step. Oh,

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Speaker 2: the average kid has to borrow money, don't worry about

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Speaker 2: My heart goes out to a lot of kids that

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Speaker 2: are just forced that this is just this is what

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Speaker 2: you're supposed to do, even though a large percentage if

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Speaker 2: you don't even know what you want to do, like

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Speaker 2: what is your interest? What is your gift?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: And again I've told like cayten, might you know Kitten's

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Speaker 3: for us, because Grace, you know, she has this desire

436
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: to be a wife and mother, and I'm sure she

437
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 3: will be one day. We also want her getting a

438
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,239
Speaker 3: degree in something, because education is important to us in

439
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: our family. We knew that that four years of her

440
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: being away from us is primarily going to be used

441
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 3: for spiritual formation, and so we wanted to make sure

442
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 3: that she was in a place where she would receive

443
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: good spiritual formation, and we knew that Ave would be

444
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 3: that place for her. There were other places too, but

445
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 3: for us, we felt like Ave was the right ry

446
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: for grace, and so it wasn't going to be at

447
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: Texas A and M, even though they have a fantastic

448
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 3: Catholic center. We wanted her to be in a place

449
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: where every class. It wasn't like she's going to university

450
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: with a Catholic center, right, We wanted her to be

451
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: going to school where every class, every teacher, every organization,

452
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 3: everything that she's involved in was centered around our Catholic faith. Yeah,

453
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: the degree for us is less important than the spiritual

454
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: formation she will receive at ab A well.

455
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: And let's you know, let's just also just put out

456
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: the probable point of it's there's a there's a good

457
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: chance she could meet her future husband there, right, Yeah,

458
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 2: and so when we're talking about the formative years and

459
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: of entering adulthood and friends, and you know, it's it's

460
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: it's probable that she could meet her future husband and

461
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: so knowing that this is where he wanted to be

462
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: and this is his family's values, and I mean that's huge.

463
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: So, right, I don't want her going to Texas a

464
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: and m falling in love with an agnostic, right, which

465
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: those aren't the people that Ave Maria lets in, right, right,

466
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: Ave Maria is not like a place where nominal Catholics go,

467
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 3: or where atheists to go, or where agnostics go.

468
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: No, they have.

469
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 3: And I mean I don't want to marrying a Protestant either,

470
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: because I don't want not that I'm mad at Protestants,

471
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: but I don't want there to be division in their marriage.

472
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: I want them worshiping at the same place. And Grace

473
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: is never going to leave her Catholic faith. So I

474
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: don't want children being raised in two different denominations, or

475
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want that. I want Grace to

476
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: be equally yoked with another strong traditional Catholic. And I

477
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: knew that the probability of her meeting that person was

478
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: much higher at Ave Maria than at Texas University, Texan

479
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: and University, right, So that's her desire, that's what she wants.

480
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: So it was like, well, this is the obvious choice

481
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 3: then for you, right, So all you have to think

482
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 3: of all of these things as a parent.

483
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: And really you really really do.

484
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 3: And that's why parents need to be very active in

485
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: their children's decision making. On a university. It's really not

486
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: about just well, wherever my kid wants to go, they

487
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: can go. No, like, you need to be an active

488
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: participant in where your child is going to leave. They're

489
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: going to leave your home and they're going to make

490
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 3: their own home, right, you need to be active and

491
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: where they're going to set up their next home away

492
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: from you, right, because it is going to help determine

493
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 3: their future.

494
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's so true. I'm even thinking, like,

495
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: you know, when I went to mercy Hurst, it was

496
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: mercy Hurst College, it's now Mercyhurst University, and it's just beautiful.

497
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: It's beautiful campus and very Catholic and you know, and

498
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 2: so all the like mindedness there. So even when you know,

499
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: my friends and I these the amazing friends that I

500
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: had made, even though just being real, you know, sometimes

501
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: you didn't make the best decisions. It was like it

502
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: was like, come on, we gotta go to church, Like

503
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: we're going to confession. Who's coming?

504
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

505
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was still like okay, we're we're growing up.

506
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: We're still you know, fill off the horse, screw right,

507
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: and you're gonna screw up. But it was still like

508
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: having your accountability partners, like Okay, we were brought up

509
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: this way, we know the drill. All right, we're all tired.

510
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: We went to bed late. Who's going Who's going to church?

511
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: Who's going to Mass at eleven? Do you know what

512
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: I mean? And and so it's just and then just again,

513
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: And as far as dating goes, it's like, yeah, these

514
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 2: are the people that have the same values. And I think, Abby,

515
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: my goodness, the pre cana classes and preparing couples. I

516
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: was gonna say, young couples, whatever age you are, I

517
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: don't care if you're in your late thirties early forties

518
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: and this is your first marriage, whatever preparation, whatever age

519
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: you are. The preparation there needs to be such an

520
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: emphasis like you need to dig of like really looking

521
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: at your beliefs, your religion, you are you equally yoke

522
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: because I'm telling you, if it is far off and

523
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: you're like, but I'm gonna pull them, I'm gonna I

524
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: was there. It is so hard. I mean, God's word

525
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: tells us the importance of that, thinking, oh, politics, it's

526
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: not a big deal.

527
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm was there. Yes, it's a big deal.

528
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: It's a big deal. And there were so many things

529
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: I've bent on. And again I'm not saying I'm my

530
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, you know, I've made so many mistakes,

531
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: but there were so many things I overlooked to being

532
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: young and so eager to get married and have my

533
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: own family, and I feel I was very ill prepared

534
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: in my pre cana. I will say that it was

535
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: even out in California, so I'm like, man, liberal Californias

536
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: for very new for marriage. But truly, all jokes aside,

537
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: I was so ill prepared, and I overlooked so many

538
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: glaring points, whether I mean everything from God's word and

539
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: the church reaffirming things that it was like no, but

540
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: it's okay, and it's like, oh, these are things you

541
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: have to be in alignment on because if you're not

542
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: now and there's that hope that we'll get there we'll

543
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: get there, you know. And so yes, when you're sending

544
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: your child off at age seventeen or eighteen to go

545
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: out into the world into I mean, oh, it is

546
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: just one of the most monumental things that you're flipping

547
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: their wings.

548
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: To my parents.

549
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: For people that don't know, my parents are becoming Catholic

550
00:29:53,920 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: and after gosh, my dad's seventy seven, my mom is seventy,

551
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: So after seventy three years and seventy seven years of

552
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: being Protestant, my parents are becoming Catholic, and it is

553
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: it's just such an exciting thing and no prompting for

554
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: me at all.

555
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: By the way, I had no idea.

556
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: How many times I think of how many years you've

557
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: been Catholic and like, so it's not like you've been

558
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: you know, this was.

559
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: No, I've been Catholic since twenty twelve.

560
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, never have I talked to them about becoming Catholic.

561
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: We've just lived our lives as Catholics, and they have

562
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: come to see the beauty of the church.

563
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: And I didn't believe them.

564
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: I remember, like a year or eighteen months ago, Abby,

565
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: you sent me a picture. You're like, Greg, I'm in

566
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: my parents' house. Look at the books they have on

567
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: their Look at the books they're reading, Like you didn't

568
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: even know. They didn't even tell you.

569
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: And she's liked, I had no idea, Yeah, like books

570
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: and becoming Yeah. And when my dad mentioned something about

571
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: them coming into the church, I was like, no, like what, Like,

572
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: I was like, they're not doing that, like he'd mentioned

573
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: it in front of Doug and I was like, do

574
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: you know your parents are thinking about becoming Catholic? And

575
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: I was like, that's never going to happen. But it

576
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: is happening. They are in r Cia, o Cia whatever

577
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: they call it now, and so with Easter they're going

578
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: to Indivisil. They will they will join the church. So

579
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: of course they've already you know, been baptized and everything,

580
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: so they'll receive first Eucharist and confirmation. It's just been

581
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: really wild for me. It's hard for me to still

582
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: even believe it.

583
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure I.

584
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: Think just knowing them as these like strong Southern Baptists,

585
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: so but it's it's really amazing and really beautiful. And anyway,

586
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: you talked about pre Kina, so my parents had to

587
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: do this marriage inventory.

588
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: Well, cute they've been married, do they've been married.

589
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: For forty eight years, So forty nine years in January.

590
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we're gonna have to plan them a fifty.

591
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: It's thirty one hundred per I'm gonna have to drive

592
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: back to Texas for that.

593
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Okay.

594
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: So they took this marriage inventory, so you know, the

595
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: priest was like, they do not have to go through

596
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: any pre kana stuff, but have them do the marriage inventory.

597
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: I think it will be fun.

598
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so my dad prints out the results to show me, okay,

599
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: because he wants me to see their results.

600
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: Regan.

601
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: It was so funny. Their results were like identical to

602
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: each other. Really, it was like they have now morphed

603
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: into the same person.

604
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: They've literally become one.

605
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, what does Mike think about this? What

606
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: does Kathleen think about this?

607
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

608
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: They think the same exact thing. Wow, okay, what is

609
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: Mike strings here? What is Kathleen string?

610
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: Oh? The same? Like it was.

611
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: It was like they had these little bars, you know,

612
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: like measurement bars or whatever, and they were like the

613
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: same across the board on everything.

614
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: It was so funny and wow, it was crazy.

615
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: I was like, like, that's so it's so unsurprising. To

616
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: me and knowing them and just the most lovely like

617
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: both as individuals like phenomenal people, and then as a couple,

618
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 2: they're just precious together.

619
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: I was like, what a match you really?

620
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: Wow?

621
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: But like what what goals too? Reeah?

622
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: Right, because you know it hasn't always been certainly, it

623
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: hasn't always been that easy for them, right, but like

624
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: their marriage is so easy now right right, and they

625
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: have so much fun together and they love traveling together

626
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: and all this kind of stuff, and I'm just like, wow,

627
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: it's like marriage goals right there. I mean, yeah, just

628
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: life is easy for them, and now it has not

629
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: been perfect. Okay, one time my parents, my parents didn't

630
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: talk to each other for a solid week. Wow over

631
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: what because yeah, so my dad, so my mom. This

632
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: was I don't know, probably ten years ago. My dad

633
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 3: my mom started a pregnancy center where they used to live,

634
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: and my mom was she volunteered up there all the time,

635
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: so she had a shift to volunteer in the morning

636
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: from like eight to noon. My dad had plans for

637
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: them to go to a movie, and my mom just

638
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: stayed up there like chitty chatting like she does for

639
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: a long time. So then it screwed up my dad's

640
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: plans for them to go to the movies, and she

641
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: didn't call and let him know or anything. So my

642
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: dad was just like sitting there, sitting there waiting, totally

643
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: blew his afternoon date with my mom.

644
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: So she comes home like did you do whatever?

645
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 3: And my dad's like sitting there mad because he had

646
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 3: this whole date planned with my mom and she screwed

647
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: it up. And he's like, Kathleen, like, I've been waiting

648
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: to take you on a date and you just come

649
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 3: in here.

650
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: Like's if nothing, Yeah.

651
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: You're like two hours late.

652
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: And she's like, well, I was chatting you know, right,

653
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 3: I was at the center right like whatever. And he's

654
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: like but he didn't even call, you know, And and

655
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: she's like, well, I mean my mom was totally like inconsiderate, right,

656
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: but she didn't really think anything about it at.

657
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: The time, you know, she was just doing Yeah, she's

658
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: just doing her job, like just.

659
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: Like my mom is super social and my dad could

660
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: have called her right to be like, yo, we're still

661
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: going to this date or wait, right, but he didn't either.

662
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: He just chose to sit there and be mad. So

663
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: it was this like thing, right, So then they gave

664
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: each other the silent treatment.

665
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: Wow for a full week, and who came, it's a

666
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 2: full week.

667
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: They were calling me to be like, can you let

668
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: your dad know next time you talk to him that

669
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and I'm like, y'all live in the

670
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: same house. Mom's like, well, I'm not talking. I'm not

671
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: talking to him yet, I'm not talking to him. So

672
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: finally I had to stop it. Yes, I had to

673
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: go to the house and be like, are we done?

674
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: Are we done? Now? Like, are we done with the

675
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: silentary And then they just.

676
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 3: Busted out laughing. They started laughing and then they started talking.

677
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: So they're cute even when they finally right. My mom, though,

678
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: could get She could go like months, I'm silent.

679
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: Well now we know where Abby got.

680
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: Her her little stubborn number. My mom is so sub Yeah,

681
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: she could.

682
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: She could not talk to somebody for the rest of

683
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: her life, like she decided, she could be like, oh, yeah,

684
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: I'm doing this.

685
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: And yet she's just like the sweetest woman I've ever met.

686
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: Oh, bald buddy, Oh it's so funny. Yeah, so there.

687
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: Their little worksheet was hilarious to man, yeah to look at,

688
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: and also interesting because my dad, as he's grown older,

689
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: he's become so much more like emotional too, and like

690
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: just so that's been interesting too to kind of watch

691
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: his like awareness of my mom's feelings and stuff like that,

692
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: and so that showed up in the inventory too.

693
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: So right, it was just real. It was neat.

694
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: It was neat to see like a to see the

695
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: inventory of a couple who's been married for forty eight

696
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: years and like a very happily married. I love that couple.

697
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: So it was it was fun here for so so

698
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: I can't wait. They've asked Doug is my dad's sponsor

699
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: into the church, and my mom had asked me, but

700
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: I said, you know what, you should really have Grace

701
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: because she and Grace talked about, you know, her faith.

702
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: All the time. Oh wow, And so Grace is mom's

703
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: sponsor into the church.

704
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: So oh I love that.

705
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: I know.

706
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: So I get to do all the things though like

707
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: that Grace can't be here for right, you know that

708
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: I get to do all the like proxy stuff right now.

709
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: So oh, I love that. It's fun.

710
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: Well, we've jumped from college to pree Kana and these

711
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: cute little personal stories and I love it. Sometimes it's

712
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: just and sometimes people just love to, especially especially you Abby.

713
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: You know when people see just the woman on TV

714
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: or on stage and then they get to like hear

715
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: these personal stories. It's just like they love it.

716
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: You know, I am a real person.

717
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: She is.

718
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: She has real parents, right right, she's a daughter too.

719
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: I love it.

720
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: Well, all right, friends, until next time.

721
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: Keep raising your little saints.

722
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: Oh take cod