1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: fighting for the future of our republic. My call is 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: end up miserable. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: But if the most important. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: to college. You should get married as young as possible 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: and have as many kids as possible. Go start at 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: turning point you would say, college chapter. Go start attning 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: point youould say high school chapter. Go find out how 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: your church can get involved. 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 4: Sign up and become an activist. 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, 17 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: most important decision I ever made in my life, and 18 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: I encourage you to do the same. 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Here I am. 20 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 4: Lord, Use me. 21 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show 22 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: my family, friends and viewers. 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: All Right, Happy Monday, December fifteenth, Blake, Happy Monday? 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 5: Is it? 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 5: Well, we got to Monday. 29 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: A lot of stuff went down this weekend, not the 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 4: least of which which want to call out the elephant 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 4: in the room. We had invited Candicezones to be a 32 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 4: part of a live stream today on this show later 33 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 4: today after our live show, she of course declined to 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 4: show up in person. And then over the weekend, Erica 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: Kirk announced that she's going to be meeting privately and 36 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: so with her and so sometime today, sometime today and so. 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: Per that tweet, she said, basically, all live streams, public 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: discussions and tweets are on hold until after this meeting. 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 5: We'll see what unfolds. 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: So we will see what unfolds. We are prepped ready 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: either way. So that's basically where we're gonna leave that discussion. 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: And you know, we're actually gonna have paramount tactical Gary 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 4: Melton on the show at the half halfway point in 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: this hour. We're going to touch just talk about some 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: of the. 46 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 5: We're two different guests, I believe talking about. 47 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: Viva Viva Viva. Fry is going to come on and 48 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: talk about why he believes Tyler is the shooter. Uh, 49 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: He's going to go through some of the evidence, and 50 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: he's also going to uh talk about his own little 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 4: sort of spats and squabbles on on the social media, 52 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: and then we are uh gonna, like I said Gary 53 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 4: Melton from Paramount Tactical Ballistics Expert, he's also visited the 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: campus of UVU since and and retrace the steps of 55 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: Tyler Robinson. All that and more will happen today, and 56 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: then we're gonna get into how Charlie was kind of 57 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: a modern day it's a wonderful life. 58 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 59 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's an interesting pitch. It's a it's a friend 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 6: of uh Chris Ruffo reached out and said this. 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: It's a good takes as soon as she told us to, 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: you know, he's pretty Yes, But we got a lot 63 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 4: of news to go over in the meantime, and you know, 64 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: obviously we had the Bondai Beach terrorism, which is just horrendous. 65 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 4: We're gonna get into that. Just in a second. We 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 4: had Rob Reiner was apparently stabbed to death along with 67 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: his wife Michelle, who it appears that his the son Nick, 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: who's had mental problems and drug abuse problems, homelessness problems. 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: He's now in custody. And of course, uh, you know, 70 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 4: we had this brown shooting where it's we're hearing reports 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: that a Republican campus Republican. Well, she's dead, we know that, 72 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: and it's a really terrible story. But there is also 73 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: reports that she may have been targeted. So let's get 74 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: into all of these stories because there we gotta go. 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: We gotta go quick here. Uh, let's hit Rob Reiner 76 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: because I think you and I both have some some 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: appealings feelings about that. 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, that broke last night out of nowhere, very horrifying, 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 6: just you know. It began with that police we're at 80 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 6: Reiner's home in the Los Angeles area, and they found 81 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 6: two bodies there that matched their ages, and then they 82 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 6: were they were stabbed to death, and it just sort 83 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 6: of dribbled out over the course of the evening, and 84 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 6: it now appears the suspicion is that both Rob and 85 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 6: his wife, Michelle were stabbed to death by their son, 86 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 6: who I believe had a history of there's some addictions 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 6: and issues, and so I imagine we'll learn more about 88 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 6: how exactly that happened. It's a pretty gruesome way to 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 6: get very I mean, unthinkably terrible. No one should suffer 90 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 6: that way, and it causes us to look back and 91 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 6: we saw things, and I mean, among other things, Rob 92 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 6: was on he went on the air shortly after Charlie 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 6: was shot, and he actually said quite kind things about him. 94 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 5: Yes, do we have that ready to go? 95 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: If not, we'll get it. But the the point is 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: the we need to look at that as a good example, 97 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: right of how to respond in these situations. And unfortunately, 98 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 4: you know, with Charlie's death, gruesome same and you know, 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: I instantly saw the parallels and I felt terrible for 100 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: this family. I felt terrible for Rob Reiner, his wife Michelle, 101 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: and you know, honestly, I just my heart felt with compassion, 102 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: so instantly I went and I said as much on 103 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 4: social media. I think that tweet has two point one 104 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 4: million engagements now a lot of people retweeted it, and yeah, 105 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: my heart goes out to their family. I have no 106 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: idea the details of what was going on with there 107 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: was a nick senseless tragedy. Terrible to see. And by 108 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: the way, Rob Reiner's movie career, it should be the 109 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: guy had incredible depth. Yeah, he gave into TDS and 110 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: Trump arrangements. 111 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 5: He was a left wing actually quite a sharp one. 112 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 6: He got really in on anti Russia militarism. 113 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 5: He said, all the he believe all that. You know, 114 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 5: Trump's doing treason. 115 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, with Russia, stuff looks like, okay, it's terrible politics. 116 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 6: It's a free country. Yeah, it is a free country. 117 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 6: And he was allowed to believe what he wants. That 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 6: doesn't mean it's okay for him to get stabbed to 119 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 6: death by his son. 120 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 5: And it's disgusting if anyone is celebrating them. 121 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it really is. And you know, guys like 122 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: James Wood, who's a conservative. He came out and he said, 123 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: you know that he had worked with rob and they 124 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 4: were able to maintain their friendship even though they are 125 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: on diametrically opposed polar opposites of the political spectrum. And yeah, 126 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: I mean it's just but here's some of his movies. 127 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: This is Spinal Tap, stand by Me, Princess Bride, when 128 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: Harry met Sally, A few good men. I mean, this 129 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: guy had range, and say what you will tell those politics. 130 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 4: The guy made some absolute classics of American cinema in 131 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: the twentieth century. 132 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, and yeah, we should acknowledge it was an elephant 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 6: in the room. President Trump unfortunately posted on truth social 134 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 6: this morning. He said a very sad thing happened last 135 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 6: night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling but 136 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 6: once very talented movie director in comedy star, has passed 137 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 6: away together with his wife Michelle, reportedly due to the 138 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 6: anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding and incurable 139 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 6: affliction with a mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, 140 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 6: sometimes referred to as TDS. He was known to have 141 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 6: driven people crazy by his raging obsession with President Donald J. 142 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 5: Trump. 143 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 6: And he goes on for a bit longer. I'll be frank, 144 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 6: I think the president should delete that. 145 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand that sentiment. He's getting a lot of blowback. Actually, 146 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: Jake Tapper quote tweeted my tweet with Trump's truth to 147 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: contrast them. I mean, listen, I wasn't tweeting what I tweeted, 148 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: you know, with trying to make some large statement. I 149 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: just my heart went out to him. What can I say? 150 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: So? 151 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: I do think it's fair though. As soon as we 152 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: have this clip loaded on this Rob Reiner's reaction to Charlie. 153 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: You first heard about the murder of Charlie Kirk, what 154 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: was your immediate gut reaction to. 155 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 7: It, well, horror, absolute horror, and I unfortunately saw the 156 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 7: video of it, and it's this, it's beyond belief what 157 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 7: happened to him, and that should never happened to anybody. 158 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 7: I don't care what your political beliefs are. That's not acceptable. 159 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 7: That's not a solution to solving problems. And I felt 160 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 7: like what his wife said at the service, that the 161 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 7: memorial they had was exactly right and totally I believe, 162 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 7: you know, I'm Jewish, but I believe in the teachings 163 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 7: of Jesus, and I believe in doing to others, and 164 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 7: I believe in forgiveness. And what she said to me 165 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 7: was beautiful and absolutely you know when she she forgave 166 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 7: his his assassin, and I think that that is admirable. 167 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean, really, that's the only correct response 168 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: in this moment. 169 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 6: That is that is the only correct response, especially in 170 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 6: it's whenever anyone dies, but especially when it's a heinous 171 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 6: murder that no one deserves. And you know, there's a 172 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 6: vast tragedy that goes into that. 173 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 4: And he was also well known as meathead on was that. 174 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 6: Which that was such a big deal in the seventies 175 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 6: and it's more forgotten today. 176 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 4: But he was great. I actually went and watched up 177 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 4: the clips last night and they were they were hilarious. 178 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 4: There was this uh oh, he was the dad in 179 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: Wolf of Wall Street. I didn't realize that anyways, Rob Reiner. 180 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: I just think it's a total tragedy. Yeah, his politics 181 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 4: were awful. Don't care right now, literally, do not care. 182 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 4: We're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministry, and 183 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: today I want to point you to their podcast. It's 184 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: called Culture in Christianity, The Alan Jackson Podcast. What makes 185 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: it unique is Pastor Allan's biblical perspective. He takes the 186 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're 187 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: facing today, gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge Trump, and the 188 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: White House issues in the church. He doesn't just discuss 189 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 4: the problems in every episode, he gives practical things we 190 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: can do to make a difference. His guests have incredible 191 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 4: expertise and powerful testimonies. They've been great friends and now 192 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: you can hear from Charlie and his own words. 193 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: Each episode will make you recognize the power of your 194 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: faith and how God can use your life to impact 195 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: our world today. The Culture in Christianity podcast is informative 196 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: and encouraging. You could find it on YouTube, Spotify, or 197 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe so 198 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 2: you don't miss any episodes. Alan Jackson Ministries is working 199 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. You 200 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: can find out more about Pastor Allen and the ministry 201 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: at Alan Jackson dot com. Forward slash Charlie. 202 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: Tweet from Jade Vance paying his respects to Ella Cook. 203 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: She was the vice president of the Brown University College Republicans. 204 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: He says, this beautiful young girl was one of the 205 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 4: murdered students at Brown University. It takes a special courage 206 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: to lead an organization of conservatives on a left wing campus, 207 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 4: on a far left campus. You could say, and I'm 208 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: very sorry our country has lost one of its bright 209 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: young stars. Eternal rest grant unto her. Oh lord, and 210 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 4: that's from Vice President Jade Vance. Terrible tragedy. Everything that 211 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: I have seen about this young woman said that she 212 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: was brave, she was kind, she was helpful. She would 213 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: throw in and help you lend a hand on anything 214 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: going on on campus, especially with the College Republicans. So 215 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 4: our heart goes out to Ella Cook. And her family 216 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 4: and another terrible sort of tragedy over the weekend. They 217 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: do not have a suspect at this time. They have 218 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: not released video evidence. There's some reporting that would suggest 219 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: that she was targeted Blake, so they had a suspect 220 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: person of interest. They ended up releasing that that person 221 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: of interest, which is just like a whole crazy how 222 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: do I just it's unbelievable cameras everywhere, yea, in. 223 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 6: Modern society that you could shoot that many people and 224 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 6: get away and not have good leads. 225 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: About ten were shot, two were killed. Unfortunately, Ella is 226 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 4: one of those who were killed. And there unfortunately there 227 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 4: was another shooting that happened obviously in Bondi Beach, Australia. 228 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 4: Fifteen were killed as some Jewish celebrants were enjoying a 229 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: Honuakah celebration and it was right right there on the beach. 230 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: There's a whole bunch of crazy stuff with this nideline. 231 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 6: Everything about it is exactly what Charlie warned about so 232 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,119 Speaker 6: often with bringing Islam. 233 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 5: Into the West. 234 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 6: So this was obviously of migrant origin, and they targeted 235 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 6: a Jewish community and it was a father and son 236 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: team they like lived in a million dollar house. But 237 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 6: they still just go for radical Islam. So they've thrived 238 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 6: in this country that welcomed them, and they decide to 239 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 6: go and murder a bunch of Jews and they go, 240 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 6: they go raid the house and the mother, she's I 241 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 6: saw on gb news she was saying, you know, her 242 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: son was a good boy. 243 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 5: He was a good boy. 244 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: He was a good boy. 245 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 5: He was a good boy. 246 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 4: And he was not a good boy, dear, He was 247 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: not He was not a good boy. He was actually 248 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: a terrible monster that killed a bunch of innocent people 249 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: investigated and been investigating because he was apparently tied to 250 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: an Islamic cell with the of ISIS, and somehow he 251 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: was not detained, apprehended, his family was allowed to get guns. 252 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 4: Like the whole thing reeks to high heaven here. I 253 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: don't know how anybody in the Western world could be 254 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 4: tied to an Islamic you know, Isis cell and first 255 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 4: of all, be allowed to roam free. Actually they should 256 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: have been deported immediately. We should take heed in the 257 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: United States. Secondly, the fact that Australia, which has extremely 258 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 4: restrictive gun laws, the father apparently had six guns legally owned, 259 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 4: so the whole country cracks down on law binding people haven't. Yeah, yeah, 260 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: and yet. 261 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 6: Everything about this is just it's outrageous because this is Australia. 262 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 6: Australia is this big, almost entirely empty continent filled with 263 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 6: natural resources. They get that, they're they're settled by the English, 264 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 6: the greatest country creators in the world. Australia has basically 265 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 6: no reason to have any problems whatsoever. They could basically live. 266 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 6: They could, you could all, everyone could live like a 267 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 6: king in Australia. And what they do is because they 268 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 6: have this left wing brain virus. Why do you need 269 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 6: any Islamic migration into Australia. What country has ever been 270 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 6: made better by saying, yeah, let's bring in more Islamic 271 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 6: migration to this society. Has it made England better? 272 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: No? 273 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 5: Has it made Germany better? 274 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: No? Yeah? 275 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: And there was this, uh, I mean, you got to 276 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: give credit where it's due. There was a hero that 277 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: ran in I believe we have that footage, grabbed the 278 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: gun and basically subdued it looks like the father and 279 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: ended up getting shot a couple times in the arm 280 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: by the son who was perched up on the bridge. 281 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 4: So his name was I think Ahmed or something Ahmed, 282 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: so it's actually another Muslim. He's been called a trader 283 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: online by Fillow Muslims. And by the way, there was 284 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: already video of people celebrating in Sydney, other Muslims celebrating 285 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: the attack. It's eerily similar to what happened on October seventh, 286 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: where you know, Jews get attacked and then you know 287 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: people Muslims around the world celebrate so pretty sick stuff. 288 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: And you know, I think we should play a cut 289 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: from from Charlie here. Yeah, one fifteen. We have just 290 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: enough time. One fifteen. 291 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: Spiritual battle is coming to the West and the enemies 292 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: are Wokeism, Remarxism combining with Islamism to go after what 293 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: we call the American way of life. And the American 294 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: way of life is very simple. 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You can follow him 327 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: on x which is how I discovered him. He's been 328 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: doing great work, just breaking down all the dynamics of 329 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: the case. I think people's intrigue in the dynamics of 330 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: the cases reaching an all time Hi. Actually because we 331 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: we saw Tyler Robinson in court last week. So Gary, 332 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 4: welcome to the show. It's an honor to have you. 333 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: Hi. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 334 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 4: So just a little bit on your background so people 335 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: understand why you know so much about this topic. Gary 336 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: Milton is a former US Army Special Forces green Beret. 337 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: You served as a weapon sergeant and sniper team leader, 338 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 4: completing four combat tours. Following your military service, Gary, you 339 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: held a position of unit chief and special Tactics and 340 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 4: Structure for a federal agency. Today, Gary is the owner 341 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: and lead instructor of Paramount Tactical Solutions, a company dedicated 342 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: to professional firearms and tactical training. You work full time 343 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: doing that, so Gary, you also have a great YouTube 344 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: and you're a great Twitter follower, so you know your stuff, 345 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 4: and I wanted to have you on because you know, 346 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 4: I refuse to go back to Utah like anytime soon. 347 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 4: I'll just be honest, it's no offense. I just can't 348 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: bring myself to do it. But you actually went to 349 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: the campus and you retrace the steps of the alleged assassin. 350 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: We have to say that in a sort of journalistic sense, 351 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 4: not in any other way. I believe he's the man 352 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 4: who pulled the trigger. Gary, tell us what you what 353 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 4: you saw when you visited Uview. 354 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, you know, one of the things that I 355 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: wanted to do while I was there. At the time, 356 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: there was a lot of different U I don't know, conspiracies, 357 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: we had the palm gun, we had different shooters and 358 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: different locations. And what I thought was really important to 359 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: do was go there. Number one, talk to eyewitnesses. I 360 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: talked to multiply witnesses while I was there, you know 361 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: that had very very similar stories. 362 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: The other thing I did while I was there. 363 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: Was actually I actually fluid drone uh and what we 364 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: did was a three D map survey of the campus 365 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: and we have since built a three D model of 366 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: that that's interactive. 367 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: People can download it for free. 368 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: It's it's on my ex account, and that way people 369 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: can kind of see what is possible, what has lines 370 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: of sights. And I knew just from what people were 371 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: saying that some of these theories that they were putting 372 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: out just weren't possible. I knew there was no line side. 373 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, I just wanted to 374 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: get some hard ground truth and see what was going on. 375 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: And you know, this case was important to me. You know, 376 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: I was a big fan of Charlie's felt personal and 377 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: I think, you know, if you're going to get to 378 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: the truth, you need to get there. You need to 379 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: talk to some people, and you need to see the 380 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: ground truth. And you know that's kind of what we did. 381 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's a video here. 382 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: Gary. 383 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna set you show it really quick so 384 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 4: people can see how easy it ultimately was to get 385 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: on this rooftop access point one three. 386 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 3: All right, folks, So here's the stairs they go to 387 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: the roof. 388 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: Wow, this wall is about maybe three feet tall. All right, 389 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: So right there is the shooting position. It's about two 390 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: hundred feet away from there. You don't need to be 391 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: spider Man. As a matter of fact, you don't even 392 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: need arms. Literally get up there if you didn't have arms. 393 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 5: Wow, that's a good visual. That's a good visual. So, 394 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 5: just from your knowledge. 395 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 6: Across the spectrum and your own visits, do you feel 396 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 6: there's any misconceptions that you're seeing repeated over and over 397 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 6: and over again that have spread really far that, in 398 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 6: your opinion, are pretty easily debunked or opposed. 399 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's been a cycle of people taking 400 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: very normal things, or maybe even slightly abnormal, and then 401 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: turning them into suspicious items. 402 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 3: Right. 403 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: One of the things that really struck me on the 404 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: ground there was exactly how. 405 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: Easy this entire thing was. 406 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: You know, before I went there, one of the things 407 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,239 Speaker 1: that was being portrayed was like this was, you know, 408 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: some big conspiracy. It's very complex, you need professional hitmen. 409 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: It's one hundred and forty yards, it's so far. All 410 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: these things now, I knew the distances was nothing, especially 411 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: for a scoped rifle. I mean that is you know, 412 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: my eight year old son was going into courses with 413 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: us shooting twelve hundred yards. It's not hard. And then 414 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: once you see the layout of the campus, you know, 415 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: looking at it from a security standpoint, unfortunately, it was 416 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: a real challenge, you know, once the information was out 417 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: that this was the location. 418 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: And then on top of that. 419 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: Once you look at the UVU courtyard, it is channelized. 420 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: There's only it's obvious where any sort of speaker. 421 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: Is going to be. 422 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: So, you know, the thing that shocked me the most 423 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: was how easy this was. And then once we get 424 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: into coming back and then hearing things like hey, you 425 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: know what, you need to be Spider Man, or people 426 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: think that you have to have some sort of special 427 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: access or that you have to climb up to the roof, 428 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: when in reality, you walk right up to the roof. 429 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: The pathway that goes in between buildings is level with 430 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: the roof, and the only thing that separates that that 431 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: walkway from the roof is you know a three foot 432 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: guardbrail that you just step over. 433 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 3: And now you're you have access. 434 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: And the other thing is is very obvious to me 435 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: if you just look at Google Maps, if you're trying 436 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: to plan this operation, you know, it's it's simple. It's 437 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: not that hard and it's not that complicated. And the 438 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: thing is, we have all these kids out there playing 439 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: call of duty, and you know, they're very tactically minded, 440 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: and you know, there was nothing Especially once I went there, 441 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: talked to people on the ground, saw the campus, A 442 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: lot of what wasn't clear to me was crystal clear, 443 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, especially by the time that we got the 444 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: charging documents out they laid out the evidence. Everything made sense, 445 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: it really did. And you know, they continue to push 446 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: a lot of disinformation and there's a lot of reasons 447 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: behind that, but you know, that's what I wanted to do. Look, 448 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to be lied to by the government, 449 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: but I don't want to be lied to by the 450 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: internet either, And I think it's really important for us 451 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: to make sure that we're pushing the truth and people 452 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: are being honest about this. And you know, I think 453 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest problems is is the omission. 454 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people pushing these different conspiracies 455 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: theories in exploiting Charlie's death for their own means. They're 456 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: not telling you this information, Like why haven't these people 457 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: gone to this location and looked at this Why aren't 458 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: they showing people how easy it is to actually access 459 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: the roof? And if people saw what I saw a 460 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff would make a lot more sense 461 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: to him, and they wouldn't believe a lot of these 462 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: other artificial narratives that people are pushing. 463 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: Well, and let me just because when I saw this 464 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: video of yours, Gary, it was it reminded me of 465 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 4: the charging document. So this is straight from the charging document, 466 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: says Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so, 467 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: Robinson had become more political and started to lean more 468 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: to the left, becoming more pro gay and trans rights oriented. 469 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 4: She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a 470 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several 471 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 4: discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, 472 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: who have very different political views. In one conversation before 473 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: the shooting, Robinson mentioned that Charlie Kirk would be holding 474 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 4: an event at UVU, which Robinson and said was a 475 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 4: quote stupid venue. For the event, Robinson accused Kirk of 476 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 4: spreading hate. And when you see how easy that rooftop 477 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 4: access is, you start to kind of put one on 478 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 4: one together and you realize that Robinson had a plan 479 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 4: that he was going to ultimately take advantage of, and 480 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: he obviously knew how easy it was to get up 481 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 4: to that rooftop, which is yeah, which is terrifying. 482 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: It really is. 483 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: And look, you know, one of the other things that's 484 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: being pushed around for a long time was that, you know, 485 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: you TPUSA both a local chapter, and you guys didn't 486 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: advertise this event till a couple days prior to now. 487 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: The insinuation there is that that doesn't give Tyler enough 488 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: time to plan for this. And what we found out 489 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: with a little bit of I don't know twenty not 490 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: even five minutes of googling and looking. Look, you guys 491 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: have already put out on your website as early as 492 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: August twenty seventh, so we have at least. 493 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: Almost a full two weeks prior to this. 494 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: That not only the time of the event, but the 495 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: low the exact location of the UVU courtyard. 496 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: So when you have over ten days. 497 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: Of planning, and it sounds like that Tyler Alreadie was 498 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: familiar with the campus to begin with, Like a lot 499 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: of the mystery of this starts to go out the 500 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: window and it starts to really conform with what is 501 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: exactly being proposed by the State of Utah and the FBI. 502 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: In the charging documents. 503 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we can attest we you know, Andrew Seipher, 504 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 4: who's our head of field. You know, Charlie would sometimes 505 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: throw these events out, you know, seven ten days in advance. 506 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: If something opened up in his schedule, he would be 507 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: able to do these outdoor events a pretty quick turn. 508 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 4: And so those those whole that whole theory kind of 509 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 4: goes out the window. You you mentioned drone. Explain to 510 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: us the the conspiracy theories about drones. 511 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 3: Gary, Yeah, so. 512 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: You know early on Frank Turk talked about that on 513 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: the way there that you know, he actually was looking 514 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 1: at Charlie's phone and that he saw drone footage from 515 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: the event. Now I had talked to with that in mind. 516 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: I was at number one. I went to UVU and 517 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: I actually put the drone up. We were going to 518 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: do the survey. Immediately we were, law enforcement came up 519 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: and said, hey, look we need you to take down 520 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: a drone. Now, my drone pilot had already made all 521 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: the necessary steps with the FFA to make sure that 522 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,239 Speaker 1: we could do that. And I explained to the law 523 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: enforcement officer, hey, look, you guys don't control this airspace. 524 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 3: He's like, well, we got policies, you have to do this. 525 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: And we're not going to sit there and argue with him, right, 526 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: So we ended up grounding the drone. We went and 527 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: jumped through some hoops. We were trying to get some 528 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: documents done. Long story short, what we ended up having 529 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: to do was leave campus, we flew the drone. We 530 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: were off campus, we flew the drone. We got the survey. 531 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: So that kind of reinforced other people saying Brian Harpoole 532 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: specifically saying like, hey, we couldn't get it. We couldn't 533 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: get permission to get a drone up in the air. 534 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: And of course people took that what Frank said at 535 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: the beginning and said, hey, this is clear indication of 536 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: lying and or a conspiracy. Well, what I found out 537 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: was the picture that was being pushed around saying hey, 538 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: this is proof that there was drone footage was actually 539 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: it was very clear to me once I saw that picture. 540 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: It is a wide angle shot of the crowd from it. 541 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 4: Let's throw that up. Yeah, let's throw that ups. This 542 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 4: is actually the I think the images guys I sent 543 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 4: them to, Yeah, this is actually there was a walkway 544 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 4: or a bridge elevated that there was just that was 545 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 4: just from our events team that was setting up that event. 546 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 4: They went up there to as they always did, to 547 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 4: show Charlie the crowd size, so they took those images. 548 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand why Frank thought this was a drone, 549 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, But again I think it almost shows that 550 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: the lack of conspiracy, because you guys aren't sitting in there, 551 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, micromanaging what people say. 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So, Gary, 602 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 4: everybody that I've talked to since all this happened that's 603 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 4: been in combat, everybody that I know in that role 604 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 4: it's actually seen live fire in combat, says that bullets 605 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 4: do weird things? What do I mean by that when 606 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 4: they say that? 607 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: Look, you know, when we talk about ballistics, we have internal, 608 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: external and terminal ballistics and terminal ballistics is the study 609 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: of what happens when a projectile hits target, and it 610 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: is the most unpredictable we can We're pretty good at 611 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: predicting what happens internally and externally, but once it hits 612 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: a target, you know, there's so many things going on. 613 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: It is an extremely high speed, energetic event, and there's 614 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: so many things that happen at the micro level. As 615 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: soon as that projectile touches anything at the speeds that 616 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: it's going, it's going to deform, and really the prediction 617 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: of that kind of goes out the window after that. 618 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: The real problem that we have here in this particular 619 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: case is everything that we would even begin to try 620 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: to use to try to predict what could possibly happen, 621 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know the type of ammunition 622 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: was it, you know, store bought? Was it handloads? We 623 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: don't know the weight of the bullet, what grain was it? 624 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: Was it fifty five grain, you can go all the 625 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: way up to two hundred and twenty grain? 626 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: What type of projectile was it? Was it frangivey? 627 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're talking about the grain, what does that 628 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: mean exactly? 629 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 9: For the layman, it is. It's the weight of the bullet. 630 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 9: So how it nope, nope, Just how much mass the 631 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 9: bullet is, how heavy, how literally how heavy it is. 632 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 9: It's what we use to actually measure. We don't use 633 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 9: ounces or pounds to measure bullets. We use grains, and 634 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 9: so it's how heavy that is. 635 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: And so, you know, the thing that we need to 636 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: understand is that the thirty out six was one of 637 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: the most popular rifles in the United States for a 638 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: really long time. And when we're picking ammunition, whether we're shooting, 639 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, varments all the way up to moose, there 640 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: is a ammunition type specified for the thirty off six, 641 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: and then you get into things like, you know, right here, 642 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: I have reduced recoil ammunition, low recoil ammunition, tumble upon 643 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: impact ammunition, again some additional reduced recoil. And when we 644 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: have this large array of different ammunition and projectile types, 645 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: to come to the conclusion that they're all going to 646 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: result in that, you know, have the same results, which 647 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: is what people seem to think is a little little crazy. 648 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: And then just on top of that, like we could 649 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: take the exact same ammunition, the exact same rifle the 650 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: exact same target, and you were going to have varied 651 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: results if you were shooting that exact same target one 652 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: hundred times. It's just a very hard to predict what's 653 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: going on, and there's a lot of variables that we 654 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: can't account for, and we don't even have that information 655 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: with when it comes to the Tyler Robinson case to 656 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: begin with. But there's also a lot of variables that 657 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: you'll never account for, just between the variances of the 658 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: AMMO conditions, the way that it hits the target, all 659 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: of these. 660 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 6: We have a question from a listener Jazz. They ask, Uh, 661 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 6: why didn't the dude have a gun when he was 662 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 6: jumping off the roof? Plus was him putting it together 663 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 6: or taking it apart with those little tools and being 664 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 6: able to do it so quickly? 665 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 5: Was that plausible? 666 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 6: Especially on the second one, I'd have to refresh myself 667 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 6: on the first. 668 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 5: My belief is did he have. 669 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 4: It car carrying his pant leg? He was walking with 670 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 4: a weird gait on the video and we actually have 671 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: some images of this Gary if you want to start. 672 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, but if you have thoughts on the on the 673 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 6: assembly questions specifically. 674 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, So unfortunately, what we had was we had the 675 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: governor of Utah make kind of a silly statement and 676 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: he said when he was after the after he took 677 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: the shot, he disassembled it. That is not true, true, 678 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: and he actually does have the rifle when he jumps 679 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: off of the building, and you can actually see it 680 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: in several shots. The problem is we have a really 681 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: crappy video that has been cropped way in but if 682 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: you actually look and look at it, there are many 683 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: times where you can see what is. 684 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: Clearly a rifle. 685 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: Now, as far as assembly, what we believe is that 686 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: he actually had the barreled action separated from the stock 687 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: and when he was walking around with that barreled action 688 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: down his leg, so that's just the action in the barrel, 689 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: the part that holds it all together, well, not really 690 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: the part that holds all together, but the stock, the 691 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: part that we is separate from it so he could 692 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: make it more compact and carry it to the shooting location. 693 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: Here's some great examples of pictures that I pulled where 694 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: you can actually see that he clearly has something much longer. 695 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: The problem is that this video footage is so poor, 696 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: and then on top of that, it's zoom, so it's 697 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's cropped so far in that it is 698 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: very difficult to see this, and I understand why people 699 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: are confused that. But all it takes is two spruce 700 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: to put the action, the barrel action back onto the 701 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: stock itself and it's not going to affect accuracy or 702 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: anything like that. It would take less than a minute 703 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: and it's not that complicated, not that hard, but people 704 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: have tried to overcomplicate it. 705 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was fantastic, Gary. We're gonna have you on 706 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 4: again soon. Gary Milton, Paramount Tactical. 707 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for having me. 708 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 8: For more on many of these stories and news you 709 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 8: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com