1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: fighting for the future of our republic. My call is 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: end up miserable. But if the most important thing is 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: You got to stop sending your kids to college. You 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: should get married as young as possible and have as 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: many kids as possible. 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: Go start at turning point. 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 4: You would say college chapter. 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: Go start aturning point, yould say high school chapter. 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I recommend to 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: my family, friends and viewers. 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Happy Monday. 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: It is January nineteenth, twenty twenty six. We are in 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: studio here in Phoenix, Blake. Happy Monday, Happy Monday. The 28 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: Bears lost. 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: They did. 30 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 4: That was I was on a plane when it happened, 31 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 4: that's right, Yeah, you were coming back from the country. Yes, yeah. 32 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: It was quite entertaining. 33 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 4: It was a great game, and I so having lived 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: in California, I found like my flesh was like trying 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: to root for the Rams, but then I wanted the 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: Bears to win for Charlie. So I was very It 37 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: was very It was a weird experience, but. 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: I don't think Charlie could ever make me a Bears fit. 39 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: Well, fair enough, but I was pulling for the Cubbies 40 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 4: that didn't happen. 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: You know, Cubs were okay. I was okay with the Cubs. 42 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: I was pulling for the Ducks that didn't happen. I 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: was pulling for the Bears, and sadly that didn't happen. 44 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: Although the late heroics from Caleb Williams to get that 45 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 4: game tied up right there at the end was amazing. 46 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 4: Actually that he ran twenty five yards back twelve, it 47 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: was like, well, yeah it was. It was crazy because 48 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: he ran twenty twenty five yards back. And the other 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: thing that was crazy about this weekend was you had 50 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: all these games in the snow, right, you had the 51 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: Bills games, you had the Chicago game, and you know, 52 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 4: and then you had all this stuff in Minneapolis. It 53 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: was like in a country that seems increasingly defined by 54 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: the sun built and the warmer climates, it was like 55 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: the whole country was fixated on snowy environs. 56 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: And then the NFL is getting rid of all of them. 57 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: That's really late, that's really We're building's more dome every 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: time a new stadium, like the new Chief Stadium is 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: going to be a dome, which is a mistake, big mistake, 60 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 4: big mistake. And that sort of in a roundabout way 61 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: leads us to the lead story today. Now there's stuff 62 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 4: going on in Greenland, there's developments in Iran. All of 63 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: that stuff is important. We will get to it. But 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 4: I was horrified, truly, truly disgusted actually in what happened 65 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 4: in Minneapolis. And of course what we're talking about is 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: what happened at Cities Church in Minneapolis when Don Lemon 67 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: tags along with a group of far left agitators and 68 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: I would say communists even and by the way we're Bolsheviks. 69 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: And this is what one of the things I want 70 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: Blake to explain to the audience is, I think increasingly 71 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: the best analogy for what's going on in Minneapolis. But 72 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: you've seen it in Portland, You've seen it in la 73 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: You've seen it in all these cities. You've seen it 74 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: in Atlanta when they you know, went after the police 75 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: training facility. You see it with this Antifa front groups 76 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: and these these street gangs. They are neo Bolshevik Bolsheviks. 77 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: And one of the things that Bolsheviks did is they 78 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: targeted Christian churches. 79 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: Every time, every time, every time. It's the background here. 80 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: So it's if you really just go into history, probably 81 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: one of the most defining features of radical left political 82 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: movements from the French Revolution two hundred and thirty years 83 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: ago on down into really the present is they'd call 84 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: it anti clericalism, anti religion, anti clergy, anti anti churches, 85 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: anti Christianity. And so the Bolsheviks are the most notorious one. 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: They blew up when they seize power, they blew up churches. 87 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 3: They would execute priests, they would execute nuns, they would 88 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: they would humiliate them in a lot of ways. There's 89 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: a fun history of the Russian well, okay, not a 90 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: fun a good history of the Russian Revolution. 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 4: They would preface that by all histories. Yes, yes, history. 92 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: So for example they would they would you torture priests 93 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: and then make them do mock debates with atheists where 94 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: they would admit that they were liars or wrong about everything, 95 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: although sometimes the priests would not go along with it. 96 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: There was a very The reason I said it was 97 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: fun was this priest was made to argue about whether 98 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: God exists. And so the priest asked the guy, where 99 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: did reality come from if not for God? And the 100 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: Bolsheviks said reality and life evolved itself into existence. And 101 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: the peasants who were watching thought this was so stupid. 102 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: They immediately voted the priest the winner, which was not 103 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: the way the shy were supposed to go. But there's 104 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: always this spectacular violence in countries you're not even familiar with. 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: Mexico one hundred years ago had a revolution, huge amount 106 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: of violence against religious and churches. Spain nineteen thirties they 107 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: had a civil war, tremendous amounts of violence against priests, 108 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: and they would execute nuns, they would rape nuns, they 109 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: would loot these churches of all of their valuables and 110 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 3: say that these are being hoarded against the poor, when really, 111 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: a beautiful church is one of the things that it's 112 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: one of the most beautiful things the poor have direct 113 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: access to. That's a church that has beautiful things belongs 114 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: to all the believers. It's not that belongs to the church. 115 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: And it's just a recurring thing that happens over and 116 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: over and over again. And so it's not terribly surprising 117 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: that in Minneapolis, as we get left wing agitation against police, 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: against the public, against passerby, essentially that this would also 119 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: turn into agitation against churches and against Christians. And as 120 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 3: I said online yesterday, this one was unarmed. But if 121 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: they thought they could get away with doing it while 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: armed or using violence, I think they would because they 123 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: have for hundreds of years. 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: Well, and this is what's so infuriating. I completely agree 125 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 4: they would have. They will absolutely do this. You are 126 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: watching happening in real time. If you start piecing some 127 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: of these clips together. Like Jennifer Welch, who's a like 128 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: a very awful, disgusting, deplorable person. She is a nasty woman, 129 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 4: and she she's you know, you see increasingly that they 130 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: are showing their hand that they want to imprison us, 131 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 4: they want to prosecute us. And then you've got Lahman 132 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: here who thinks that this is somehow justified. This is 133 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: his First Amendment rights. He doesn't understand the law because harmit. 134 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: Dilon is now on record this morning saying that this 135 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: was one hundred percent a violation of the Face Act, 136 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: which protects places of worship, which protects people to be 137 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: free to go and refuse to pray. So people are 138 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: gonna get charged. The only question is how many, how 139 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: severe the charges are going to be, and so forth. 140 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: And this guy is a washed up media anchor who 141 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: got fired from CNN. He is cosplaying as a activist 142 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: and he doesn't know how to do it, and he 143 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: thinks that he somehow protected from consequences because he's a journalist. 144 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: And I would say Don Lemon, who basically gloried in 145 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: the fact that you've got to make people terrified, You've 146 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: got to traumatize people. 147 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: That's what protests is all about. That's what he said. 148 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: I hope you woke up this morning, Don Lemon, terrified 149 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 4: in the knowledge that federal charges are likely coming for you. 150 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: Let's show let's show the clips here, which which order 151 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: do you want to do it in? 152 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 4: Well, I, you know, I think we just started two twenty. 153 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: Let's get it where he's outside with these protesters Operation 154 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: pull Up is what he calls it. Two twenty. 155 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: They're in the middle of the church. 156 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 5: So in the beginning of the church service, the pastor 157 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 5: was speaking and Nichema stood up and set her piece, 158 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 5: and then the protesters surrounded her. But this is a 159 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 5: clandestine mission. I think they found out one of according 160 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 5: to them, this is according to Operation pull Up, that 161 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 5: one of the pastors here is a member of ICE. 162 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: And so okay, you can hear them just shouting the bile, 163 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: the vitriol, that the the anger just spewing out of 164 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: these people's mouths. And by the way, we're gonna have 165 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: Megan Basham on at the second half of this hour, 166 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: and she's done research on some of these protesters. Many 167 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: of them have been arrested for this before. And so 168 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 4: now you've got to ask yourself, well, if they're they're 169 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 4: getting out and they're doing it again, then maybe they're 170 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: not getting you know, charged and in prison long enough. 171 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 4: But this is this is crazy. So he starts talking 172 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: to the pastor here, and the pastor I thought did 173 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 4: a beautiful job. To twenty six. 174 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: This is unacceptable, it's shameful. 175 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 5: It's shameful to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship. 176 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: But there were folks. 177 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: I have to take care of my flock. There's a 178 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: Constitution in the First Amendment to freedom of speech and 179 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: freedom to assemble a protest. We're here to worship. We're 180 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: here to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these cities. 181 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: That's the hope of the world. 182 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: That's the pastor is a beautiful Yeah. 183 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: It's actually a pretty insightful view of the left wing 184 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 3: attitude that they always believe they have the right to 185 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: kind of do what they want. We have the freedom, 186 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: freedom of assembly, freedom to protest by bursting into your church, 187 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: the heck there's something your event, the heckler's veto. It's 188 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,599 Speaker 3: just like whenever they would attack our events on campuses, 189 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: even before the tragedy, just they would blame you know, 190 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: they would blame Charlie. They would be turning point, they 191 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: would do a riot and they'll have to come out 192 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: and look what you made us do? Yes, assembly, there. 193 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 4: Has never been a more entitled, pretentious, disgusting group of protesters, adjutors, agitators. 194 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: You will never find one. The entitlement is truly through 195 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: the roof, and it's disgusting. President Trump walked into a 196 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: catch twenty two when taking office. Do nothing in America 197 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 4: would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, the kind 198 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 4: of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead, he's taken 199 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: action with strong policies to slow the train and buy 200 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 4: us some time. But the effects of past administration spending 201 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: are still working through the system, and experts predict dramatic 202 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 4: price increases and market uncertainty. Trump is doing all he can, 203 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 4: but no matter who's in office, protecting your retirement savings 204 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: is ultimately up to you, and that's why many Americans 205 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: are turning to real assets like gold and silver. 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President Trump is fighting 216 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: for America's future. Now it's your term to help protect yours. 217 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: We're gonna keep going through these clips because they are 218 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 4: legitimately disgusting. And by the way, I will say this, 219 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: you know we've heard that Axio. You know this Axios 220 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: piece that we're losing the polling battle on immigration. 221 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: It's just too intense. 222 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 4: I was texting with Mark Alprin, who we're going to 223 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 4: get back on the show, and this Joe Rogan esque 224 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 4: sentiment that oh, his masked agents, well they're getting docksed, okay. 225 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 4: And secondly, you see this where there was a big 226 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 4: bust of child predators in northern Virginia right before Abigail Spangberger, 227 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 4: the new governor, comes into power. Now Democrats control all 228 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: of Virginia. And what was the first thing they did. 229 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: They cut off cooperation with immigration enforcement. So there's a 230 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 4: big drug, big bust of child predators. The next day 231 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 4: they cut off. So you should just be clear like. 232 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: They do this because Abigail Spanburger wants more rapists in 233 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: your country. Abigail Spanburger, much like members of the Biden administration, 234 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: celebrates internally when she sees the story about someone from 235 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: Central America or someone from Africa or someone from the 236 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: Middle East who kills an American child, rapes an American, 237 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: rob's an American. She wants that to happen, period, straight up. 238 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: Nothing they do make sense without accepting that premise. Yeah, 239 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: Virginia's toast and we're gonna talk about that. It's probably 240 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: lost for genera. I don't want a blackpill on you. 241 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: But what they are doing, it's the wildest thing, and 242 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 4: it contrasts with the effecklessness of the GOP. We can't 243 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: even redo maps in Indiana, and what do they do 244 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 4: in Virginia. Instantly they do ten to one maps in 245 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: a state that Kamala took by six points. They are 246 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: now going to be ten demic in the House versus 247 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: one Republican. So Republicans, you can keep wi'son out, you 248 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: can keep putting your head in the sand and acting 249 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: like this isn't a war for the future of this 250 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: country an existential battle, and then you get you get 251 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: these people going into churches in Minneapolis like they own 252 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: the place. Absolutely disgusting display. But this is what I 253 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: would say, full full circle on my point, Axio says, 254 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: the polling isn't going our way on immigration enforcement. Well, 255 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: then you have Don Lemon doing a gift for all this, 256 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: giving us a gift because it's so disgusting. Uh, let's 257 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: go ahead and play. Uh, this is a this is 258 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 4: this is amazing. Don Lemon's even acknowledging how traumatic this 259 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: is for the parishioners. Two twenty nine. 260 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: Chi's guy here. 261 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 5: Look, Hargan is kid, and you know, I just imagined 262 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 5: it's uncomfortable and traumatic for the people here. 263 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: But again, careful, it's very slippy right here. 264 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 5: That's what protesting is about. 265 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: And so that's what protesting. 266 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 4: Traumatizing little kids, making parents that are at church comfort 267 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: their little kids. How disgusting, Absolutely disgusting. But this is 268 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: the Bolshevik revolution and it's right here in front of us. 269 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: It's right here in our home country. And they're gonna 270 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: come for Christians because they know Christians are the last 271 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: firewall to freedom in this country. They know that Christianity 272 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: gives you true freedom to put the state in its 273 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: rightful place, to not worship it, to not deify it, 274 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: but to demand freedom that God gives us our freedoms. 275 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: And meanwhile, I just can't get over it. It's the 276 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 4: difference between the left and the right. Here get us 277 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: to destroy to go into a church. 278 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 279 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: But here's the other thing. If this was a mosque, 280 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: Don Lemon wouldn't have been within one hundred feet of it. 281 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 4: He would he would have absolutely understood that that is 282 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: a no go zone. Not in that sense, but he 283 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: would have absolutely respected the fact that when there's worshippers there, 284 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: you don't interrupt them. But he does not give that 285 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: same type of space or respect to Christian worshippers. And 286 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 4: that tells you everything, because here's the thing. He knows 287 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: that Christianity is a religion of peace. He knows that 288 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: those people in there are going to act respectfully. He 289 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: knows that after Charlie was assassinated, that we held visuals 290 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: and we lit candles and we did a memorial in peace. 291 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: We didn't burn down cities. 292 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: He knows that we're not going to act like complete idiots, 293 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: and so he takes advantage of that. He goes and 294 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: walks in there like some washed up over the hill 295 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: burnout from CNN, and I just I'm just so disgusted 296 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: by this story. Let's keep going. He then talks to 297 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: what Blake would say is the most sinister of probably 298 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: of all the forces in the state of Minniapo or Minnesota, 299 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: and that's Attorney General Keith Ellison. So he goes and 300 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: does this church raid. It traumatizes little kids, and then 301 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: he talks to the top cop in the state of 302 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: Minnesota about it to twenty eight. 303 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 6: I just want to be clear, the state has every 304 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 6: right to investigate this matter and prosecute this matter. The 305 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,359 Speaker 6: state has every right, and you know, as a prosecutor, 306 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 6: I'm not really allowed to make conclusiory statements before the 307 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 6: investigations complete it, but I do want to make it 308 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 6: clear that there is absolutely no legal barrier to the 309 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 6: state taking action in this matter. 310 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: So the first point here he makes is that they're 311 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 4: going to try and prosecute the ICE agent that was involved, 312 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: ICE agents, anybody that they deemed to be a criminal, 313 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: which I would love to see their definition of it. 314 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: And then he asked about the church. Yeah, that's the 315 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: Rolling Stones line. Every cop is a criminal and all 316 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: the centers saints. 317 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, exactly that's what we do. Live in upside 318 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: down bizarro world now. And then he asked about the 319 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: church two thirty. 320 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: You heard what some of the folks said in there. 321 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: You know that this is. 322 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 7: They shouldn't be there, and you know they shouldn't be 323 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 7: uncomfortable and this is our house and whatever. That's what 324 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 7: protesting is about, is to make people uncomfortable. You may 325 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 7: not like it, but I mean if they went into 326 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 7: a church, you know, any church. 327 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. So now he's trying to walk it back by 328 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 4: the way. 329 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: Protesting is about making people uncomfortable. 330 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 4: That sounds like what ilhan omar Aoc say the Bolshevik. 331 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: It's actually so sinister because no, like, a big point 332 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: of protest is to just show that a lot of 333 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: people support a cause. That's the point of you turn 334 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: out a million people on the national mall. That's the 335 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: point of you turn out at a city council meeting, 336 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: at your state legislature. You show a lot of people 337 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: believe this. The point of these when you make people uncomfortable. 338 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 3: The point of this is to subvert the normal political 339 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 3: process using fear. And so you have to say, okay, 340 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: you should actually give us what we want because you're 341 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: worried the next time will shoot you. You're worried the 342 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: next time will burn down your church. Don't my orraid 343 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: we'll do something illegal. There was a church that was 344 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: just shot up in Minneapolis by a left wing looney 345 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: for left wing looney reasons. 346 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 4: This is a wild clip, a crazy good pool. I 347 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 4: want to give credit to Western Lensman for this. This 348 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: was December twenty twenty five. It's not even a month ago. 349 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: This is Tim Waltz saying that our side doesn't go 350 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: in raid churches. We don't do that two thirty five. 351 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: So I would fully expect, and we are preparing for 352 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: an influx of more agents, more of the very visible 353 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: public theatrics of the raids, of the harassments, and you 354 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: got faith leaders here. I would not put it past 355 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: this administration to target midnight mass services amongst folks going 356 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: to worship, because that's who they are. 357 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 4: Oh, that's who they are. No, Tim Waltz, that's who 358 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: you are. That's what your side is doing. You desecrate 359 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: churches because you're entitled, because you're ignorant, you're ill in, 360 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 4: and you refuse to cooperate with law enforcement. These are 361 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: routine law enforcement operations. Enforcing immigration law is not an option. 362 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: You have two options in this country. Either cooperate with 363 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: ICE and you don't have these raids, or you don't 364 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 4: cooperate with ICE and you do get the raids. There's 365 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 4: not an option where you just get to ignore immigration law. 366 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: That's not the way this works. 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We've just been 412 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 4: going off on Don Lemon, Don Lemon and Keith Ellison, 413 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: this whole Bolshevik neo Bolshevism that is taking over the 414 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 4: I would say the activist class, the agitator class of 415 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 4: the far left find it incredibly disgusting, very disturbing. What's 416 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: going on here? Give us your reaction action of what 417 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: we saw Minneapolis at City's Church. And then you have 418 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 4: you've been doing some research and some investigation into some 419 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: of these players that were involved in this I want 420 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 4: to hear it all. Megan Bash from the floor shores. 421 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, obviously, it's appalling and abhorrent to see 422 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 8: what these activists did storming into this church. You know, 423 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 8: I've talked to some pastors associated with this church. They're 424 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 8: telling me that the children were terrified, that they were 425 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 8: crying that, and I think the pastors handled it very well. 426 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 8: But they did have to end the service early because 427 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 8: these kids were terrorized and they couldn't continue with the service, 428 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 8: so they shut it down, and they reconvened later that 429 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 8: night and finished holding the service after all of these 430 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 8: protesters left. But you know, what I think is really 431 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 8: important to note here is that the police, the local 432 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 8: law enforcement, did not arrest anyone, So they knew that 433 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 8: this was happening. They were on site, they were observing, 434 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 8: and they did nothing. So obviously this is a violation 435 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 8: of the Face Act. It is illegal to break into 436 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 8: a church and disrupt worship services, and yet local Minneapolis 437 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 8: police did nothing. They said that they were trying to 438 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 8: balance freedom to worship with free speech. But your free 439 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 8: speech rights do not entitle you to break into churches 440 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 8: and disrupt the services going on there. So you know, 441 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 8: that obviously is just one more point to how lawless 442 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 8: it has become on the ground in Minneapolis and Minnesota 443 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 8: at large, and so clearly we need some federal authorities 444 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 8: to go in there and take charge. And on that note, 445 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 8: one of the guys who was a ringleader of this 446 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 8: mob is a guy named William Kelly. He was one 447 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 8: of the guys who was circling, if you've watched the 448 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 8: videos online, demanding whether or not that the people in 449 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 8: this church support ICE. He was demanding to know what 450 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 8: they've done for their Somali brothers and sisters. And he's 451 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 8: a paid professional agitator. He claims to be a combat veteran, 452 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 8: and he has been seen repeatedly outside of Christ Church 453 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 8: in DC as well, because that's the church that Pete 454 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 8: Headgseth goes to. So he's been there harassing them weekly. 455 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 8: And I spoke to one of the pastors associated with 456 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 8: that church and he told me that it has become 457 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 8: so severe that at one point they screamed through bullhorns 458 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 8: with amplification and they actually burst a church member's ear 459 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 8: drum with these tactics and sent him to the hospital. So, 460 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 8: you know, one question I have at this point is 461 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 8: how these guys are able to continue harassing churches and 462 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 8: church members this way, and why they're not behind bars. 463 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 8: Because William Kelly was reportedly arrested a few weeks ago 464 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 8: in DC for this very kind of thing, for harassing 465 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 8: DC church and he's released again and back out on 466 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 8: the streets bothering Christians. 467 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 4: Well, bothering is is a very right, that's quite the understatement. Yeah, 468 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 4: that's a very yeah. And you know what's interesting about 469 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 4: this though, because you are the author, of course, of 470 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 4: Shepherds for Sale New York Times bestselling author Very Charlie 471 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 4: loved this book. You came on and talked about it 472 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 4: with Charlie. And one of the storylines here that I 473 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 4: don't think people are paying enough attention to is that 474 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: this was an SBC church. And you've done a lot 475 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 4: lot of investigations into some of the leadership at SBC, 476 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: and then you sent me this article from the Baptist 477 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 4: Press and you know you've got this this crazy leaders 478 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: of thirteen Southern Baptist ethnic groups stop right there? Why 479 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: are there SBC leaders of ethnic groups in the first place? 480 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 7: Uh? 481 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 3: Okay? 482 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 4: And then they go on to you know, it's it's Haitian, Hispanic, African, American, Chinese, Filipino, Nigerian, Liberian, Ganan, Korean, Burmese, Thai, 483 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 4: and Vietnamese leaders signed a statement and they send us 484 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 4: to Baptist press basically saying that, yeah, we you know, 485 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 4: countries need to have borders, but we basically can't do 486 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 4: anything to enforce those borders. We don't think deportations are 487 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: necessarily always very nice, and maybe we just do fines instead. 488 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 8: What is going on here, Yeah, And so that's a 489 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 8: part of the backstory that a lot of people following 490 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 8: what's been happening on the ground with this church in 491 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 8: Minneapolis won't understand. So the rank and file Southern Baptist 492 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 8: churches are typically very conservative. A lot of them will 493 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 8: stay out of politics. And I understand that this church 494 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 8: I've been told is not a church that's particularly involved 495 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 8: in politics. They are not what you might think of 496 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 8: as a culture warring church. But they do have a 497 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 8: pastor on staff who serves as a field director for ICE, 498 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 8: and that is why they were targeted, because they have 499 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 8: a law enforcement officer on their pastoral staff. And the 500 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 8: irony there is that the national leadership of the Southern 501 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 8: Baptist Convention, though, as is the case in so many 502 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 8: Christian denominations, are much more progressive than the rank and 503 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 8: file and the ordinary churches, and that is the case 504 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 8: in the Southern Baptist Convention. So you know, it pains 505 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 8: me to say this because I am a Southern Baptist, 506 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 8: but you're right, Andrew, we need to take a look 507 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 8: at this because just this past April, these national leaders 508 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 8: of the Southern Baptist Convention contributed to this false narrative 509 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 8: about Ice, that they're dangerous, that they're terrorizing people, when 510 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 8: certainly all they're trying to do is enforce the law 511 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 8: and to restore order to our immigration system. So back 512 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 8: in April, as you said, all of these quote unquote 513 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 8: leaders of the various ethnic groups within the SBC, and 514 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 8: this is really important, the lobbying arm, the policy arm 515 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 8: of the SBC, which is the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, 516 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 8: which is paid for by Southern Baptist tithes, put out 517 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 8: a statement further creating this notion that churches have reason 518 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 8: to fear Ice. And so you know, one of the 519 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 8: things that they said in this statement that they released, 520 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 8: and I'll just read you a little bit of it. Yeah, 521 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 8: we are concerned that the current impact on religious freedom 522 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 8: as worshippers decide not to attend worship services out of 523 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 8: fear because federal agents will carry out law enforcement duties 524 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 8: in church buildings. That has not happened. I want to 525 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 8: note this really quickly. They there was all of this secular, 526 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 8: mainstream legacy media fear that was ginned up over churches 527 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 8: that were going to be raided by ICE. 528 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 3: That has not happened. 529 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 8: ICE has conducted their business whenever a church is involved 530 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 8: respectfully with you know, staying out in the parking lot, 531 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 8: getting permission before they enter buildings. They have done nothing disruptive. 532 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 8: And you had the ERLC and these other leaderships within 533 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 8: the SBC attacking ICE, even though they are the ones 534 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 8: who have been respectful and have worked with churches, and 535 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 8: in the meantime we see the result of furthering this 536 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 8: false narrative about ICE and it was allowing protesters to 537 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 8: break into buildings. They are the ones that we should 538 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 8: have been afraid of the entire time. They are the 539 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 8: ones who are disrupting church services, screaming obscenities in the 540 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 8: faces of church members, and frightening kids going to their 541 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 8: church services. 542 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 4: Well, and there's reports here that I'm just looking at 543 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: right now, Megan, that apparently attendants because this narrative has 544 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: spread that ICE is raiding churches. Attendance at many immigrant 545 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 4: heavy congregations, especially Latino Pentecostal and Catholic services, has dropped sharply, 546 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: so they say, sometimes by a third or a half 547 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: due to fear, with some pastors excusing members from mass 548 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 4: or moving events to private and online. So these immigrant 549 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: communities are intentionally avoiding going to church because this narrative 550 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: has become so strongly spread within the anti ICE movement, 551 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: anti immigration enforcement movement right. 552 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 8: And the other part of that is that they are 553 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 8: endangering ICE when they spread these kinds of false narratives 554 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 8: that churches need to be afraid of ICE and Christian 555 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 8: denominations need to be afraid of ICE. 556 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 5: You know. 557 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 8: The eorlc's comment on it was so appalling to me. 558 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 8: They said that the administration needs to provide more clarity 559 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 8: so that our pastors, churches and ministries will be free 560 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 8: to minister. They're suggesting that ICE is preventing churches from ministring, 561 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 8: and that is flatly not true. So I hate to 562 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 8: say it because I am a Southern Baptist, but what 563 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 8: the Southern Baptist leadership has done here contributed to what 564 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 8: we saw at Cities Church in Minneapolis. So you know, 565 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 8: what I've I would love to see is some of 566 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 8: these leaders come out and actually apologize and repent and 567 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 8: say we were irresponsible in our language, and we were 568 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 8: irresponsible with this statement in how we addressed ice and 569 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 8: how we characterized ice. So I think if they did that, 570 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 8: that would send a huge message that one they recognize 571 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 8: that they made a mistake, that they slandered ICE agents, 572 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 8: and that includes this pastor who teaches at Cities Church, 573 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 8: because what they are suggesting is that ice is dangerous 574 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 8: to Christians, and it is absolutely not. That is not true. 575 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 8: They have not done anything that should have sparked a 576 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 8: statement like this, So you know, there is sort of 577 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 8: this terrible irony in the fact that this is how 578 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 8: SBC national leaders have been behaving at the same time 579 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 8: that you have rank and file churches that are in 580 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 8: the SBC being targeted by these left wing progressive agitators. 581 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: Well, and it's it. Yeah, this this statement goes on again. 582 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 4: This is from the thirteen leaders of the ethnic groups 583 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 4: within the fact, which is just hilarious that this is 584 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 4: even a thing. But it says we call on our 585 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 4: Southern Baptist leaders to stand firm for religious liberty and 586 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: speak on behalf of the immigrants and refugees. It says 587 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: we ask that consideration be given to their paying a 588 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: fine and or other penalty in lieu of deportation. 589 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 3: So I mean they have been pro amnesty. 590 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm like they the national leadership of the SBC 591 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 8: has been backing amnesty policies for a long time now. 592 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 8: And you know, not to plug my book, but if 593 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 8: you want to know a little bit more about that, 594 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 8: part of the reason they've been doing that is because 595 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 8: they're involved with left wing NGOs that are funded by 596 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 8: George Soros to back those kinds of amnesty policies. 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That 629 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: is y R e f y dot com Private student 630 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: loan debt relief yrefight dot com. 631 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 4: We are with Meghan Basham. She's the author of Shepherds 632 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 4: for Sale, and we're reacting to some of this church 633 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 4: news with Don Lemon storming a church with a bunch 634 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 4: of crazy lunatics and now he's justifying it. This is 635 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 4: an exchange, Meghan, that he had with Keith Ellison after 636 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: the church incident happened. And Keith Ellison, the top cop, 637 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: the Muslim sympathizer that probably is getting political kickbacks from 638 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: the Somali fraud ring, is here defending their right to 639 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 4: the First Amendment to go raid a church. The top 640 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: cop is unaware of the Face Act. Apparently in Minnesota 641 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 4: two forty. 642 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 7: One, we witnessed this morning the First Amendment in action 643 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 7: with the right to peaceably assemble symbol disobedience. 644 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: At a church. 645 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: What do you think about it. 646 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 7: I feel like there's attack on the First Amendment, on 647 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 7: people's rights. 648 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: They no doubt. 649 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 4: Well, you know the First Amendment, Well, that's you, that's 650 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: the first right. 651 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 6: I mean, that's freedom of religion, that's freedom of the press, 652 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 6: freedom of expression, freedom to redress grievances, freedom to assemble peacefully, 653 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 6: and they are all under attack right simultaneously, all and 654 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 6: it's deeply disturbing and I'm very worried about it. But 655 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 6: this is a moment, you know, where we all have 656 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 6: to stand up, and you know, there is the possibility 657 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 6: we can have a renewal of freedom if we stand 658 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 6: up in this moment. 659 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 4: I am reaction. 660 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 8: I mean, I know that Don Lemon is not the 661 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 8: sharpest tool in the shed. I would never mistake him 662 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 8: for an intellectual. But the idea that your free speech 663 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 8: right to entitle you to barge into a church, to 664 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 8: storm in with dozens of protesters, screaming at the parishioners, 665 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 8: terrorizing their children, swearing at the pastors. No, your free 666 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 8: speech rights do not cover that the purpose of your 667 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 8: free speech rights is to protest to redress for government grievances. 668 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 8: It is not to harass church members. So you know, 669 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 8: what I would like to see happen here is I 670 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 8: absolutely think that Don Lemon should face charges for coordinating 671 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 8: with Democratic Operatives to break into, storm and harass members 672 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 8: of a church during their weekly Sunday church service. I mean, 673 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 8: that is part of what's so appalling to me is 674 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 8: that it's not like they showed up on the grounds 675 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 8: of this church and just protested in the parking lot outside. 676 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 8: They busted into the sanctuary as the Sunday service was 677 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 8: going on. So you know, the idea that something like 678 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 8: that could possibly be legal is ridiculous. I'm actually maybe 679 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 8: a little bit more I don't know frightened is the 680 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 8: right word, but certainly deeply concerned that they are now 681 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 8: trying to defend actions like this, because I think maybe 682 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 8: just a couple of years ago, even someone like Keith 683 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 8: Ellison probably would have condemned storming into a church like that. 684 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 8: And the fact that they are now trying to in 685 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 8: some way act like this was a legitimate action a 686 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 8: legitimate protest is crossing a sort of rubicon to me 687 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 8: that I do find really concerning that I go, if 688 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 8: we can't even agree that you can't do this, then 689 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 8: we are in very dangerous territory. 690 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: I think the word you're looking for is disturbed. I'm 691 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 4: very disturbed by what happened, the fact that they're doing this, 692 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 4: you know. And by the way, I can just tell 693 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 4: you an independent source is just confirmed with me. The 694 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 4: DOJ and DHS has possession of all the camera footage 695 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 4: from Don Lemon showing what appears to be a violation 696 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 4: in the Face Act. So it seems like there's a 697 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 4: whole a government approach to dealing with this and bring accountability. 698 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 4: I hope that this happens. I think that they deserve it, 699 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 4: and we'll see what happens, so, you know, I think 700 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 4: that's important. Though. So there's another clip here that I 701 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 4: just have to get your reaction to, and that is 702 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 4: it's two to one, so if you guys want to 703 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 4: get it ready. This is James tal Rico, who's running 704 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 4: for US Senate in the state of Texas. 705 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: He's thriving star, rising. 706 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 4: Star because you got a white Democrat guy that's a seminarian. 707 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 4: He's a Presbyterian seminarian. And he goes on Ezra Cline's 708 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 4: podcast and Ezra Cline asked him, do you think Christianity 709 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 4: is more true than other religions, and this answer just 710 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 4: like just blew me away at how tepid and weak 711 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 4: it was. Two A one. How do you think about 712 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 4: the competing claims of different religions? 713 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 3: Do you believe Christianity to be more true than other religions? 714 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 10: I believe Christianity points to the truth. I also think 715 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 10: other religions of love point to the same truth. I 716 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 10: think of different religious traditions as different languages. And I've 717 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 10: learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism 718 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 10: and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism, and so I see 719 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 10: these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about 720 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 10: the universe, about the cosmos, and that truth is inherently 721 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 10: a mystery. 722 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,959 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, you know what Scripture calls those beautiful faith 723 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 8: traditions outside of his own. It calls them idolatry. They're 724 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 8: false religions. These are the religions that are created by 725 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 8: the spirit of the air, which is demonic. So we 726 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 8: need to understand that any religion that does not honor 727 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 8: Christ is a demonic religion, and they it is a 728 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 8: false religion. So, you know, I love my friends and 729 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 8: other faith traditions, but I don't want them worshiping false gods, 730 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 8: so I will continually try to draw them to Christ. 731 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 8: And that shows you that whatever else James Tolerico is, 732 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 8: he's not a Christian because a Christian understands that when 733 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 8: Christ says I am the Way, the truth in the life, 734 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 8: when he tells us that you're not getting to God 735 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 8: through any other door, we know that that's the truth, 736 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 8: and that's what we preach because we love people and 737 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 8: we want them to go to Heaven and we don't 738 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 8: want them to follow false religions to Hell. So you know, 739 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 8: I would just say that this has clearly, definitively proved 740 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 8: that James Tallerico is no Christian, which we already knew 741 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 8: because he doesn't follow Christ's commands on issues like protecting 742 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 8: the unborn, on protecting life, on sexuality and gender identity, 743 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 8: so we knew that this was not a Christian. But 744 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 8: I do think, and you guys can tell me what 745 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 8: you think about this, but I think we see a 746 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 8: growing battle culturally, and this proves that we are still 747 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 8: a very culturally Christian nation, but we are facing a 748 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 8: growing battle over who does Christ belong to? Because I 749 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 8: think In the past, the left just kind of denigrated 750 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 8: Christians and churches. But now what they're realizing is that 751 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 8: a better method is to try to claim Christ as 752 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 8: their own for their left wing agenda. And anyone who 753 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 8: knows their Bible will see why that won't work. But 754 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 8: I think they're going to increasingly try to do that. 755 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 3: You know, we at the start of the show, we 756 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: were discussing how attacks on churches are an old leftist practice, 757 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 3: but that's actually this co opting of religious leaders and 758 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 3: religious language. Same thing the French Revolution had. They imposed 759 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: a oath on the clergy of and they had to 760 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 3: swear loyalty to the revolution, and they would get these 761 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 3: priests who would come out and they'd say, actually, church 762 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 3: doctrine is not true. We're all loyal to the revolution, 763 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 3: and you would do this. In the early twentieth century, 764 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 3: they would easily find pastors who said, oh, we're going 765 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 3: to create heaven on this earth, and actually Christ is 766 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 3: you know, a figure of this earth, and the resurrection 767 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 3: is a metaphor and all of that. We've had pastors 768 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: like that for a long time. We've had seminarians like 769 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 3: that for a long time. The temp I guess you 770 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 3: could say Christ's message is so powerful that everyone does 771 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 3: want to claim it, which is a good thing, but 772 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: you have to be on the lookout for people who 773 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 3: are going to claim it for very evil agendas in 774 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 3: sheep's clothing. 775 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 4: Yes, and it reminds me of Scott Adams actually what 776 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 4: he said in one of his last streams where he said, 777 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 4: you know, I'm very touched by all these Christians that 778 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 4: are trying to get me to convert. He said, because 779 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 4: it shows the sincerity of their own belief that they 780 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 4: believe this is the way, and that ultimately helped lead 781 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 4: Scott to converting. 782 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,479 Speaker 3: And do you think you got a call from James 783 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 3: Tolerico saying, oh, actually doesn't worry about it because it's 784 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: all pointed towards. 785 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 4: That Islam is a religion of love and just follow 786 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 4: that one to the to the truth of the cosmos. 787 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 4: Megan Bash and thank you for coming on. We appreciate 788 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 4: it greatly. We'll see you again soon. Excellent analysis. As always, 789 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 4: we'll talk. 790 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 8: To you absolutely. Thanks for having me. 791 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 4: Guys. 792 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 9: For more on many of these stories and news you 793 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 9: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.